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Buck Sexton
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Martha Stewart
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Donald Trump
President Xi and I talked a lot about Taiwan. He thinks they cannot have anything to do with what they're doing. I mean he's, you know, against very much what they're doing talking about Taiwan. We talked about Iran a lot and I think we have a very good understanding on both on Taiwan. He does not want to see a fight for independence because that would be a very strong confrontation. And I, I heard about, no, I didn't make, I didn't make the comment on it. I heard about, have a lot of respect for him,
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Buck Sexton
non committal kind of status quo. But there was the issue of the arm sales, which we'll talk about in a second. What did you think about all this?
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Clay Travis
I think that's where you have to go. I mean, it's such a weird position, strategic ambiguity. Is it the only position in all of American politics where the goal is to actually say nothing? You know, every now and then, a politician will stumble on how to address this. I think. Didn't Joe Biden have to issue an apology because he said, we would defend Taiwan in the last couple of years? And then they immediately came back and said, actually, that was not 100% what he intended to say. Team, look that up. And it's not just even. I know Joe Biden is incompetent. It's not just Joe Biden who's had to do that. Because when the line has gotten a little bit too close to we will definitely defend them or we will definitely not defend them, there has been a public pronouncement where they're saying, hey, there's been no intent to try to change the strategic ambiguity perspective. Here's what I would say in general, Buck, and I bet you would sign off on this after your trip to Taiwan. I think Taiwan matters more today in terms of the semiconductor industry than it has ever mattered in the history of Taiwan being an independent country, by which I mean, Taiwan is producing the engine that drives all AI evolution. And I am stunned by the quality of responses you can get from very basic prompts on AI at this point from grok. And that's the one that I primarily use, the amount of research, the quality of it, the ability to just. I used it, for instance, recently to analyze whether Olympic athletes were ever asked about the political situation in the United States prior to Trump. And the answer was virtually never. Right? It is amazing how quickly you can search the entirety of the Internet, and it can give you really reliable data and information that takes up a lot of power. And so the pursuit of power. And I don't mean it in the sense of you're the president or you're a senator or you're a governor. I mean it in the sense of we got to turn the lights on. The amount of power that AI consumes is extraordinary. And the only way you can build bigger AI compute engines is with the semiconductors that are primarily being produced in Taiwan right now. So if China took Taiwan, there is more of a strategic gain than ever before. And that is where I think this matters. It's always mattered in the context of China's global ambitions, but the power that China would have if they took over Taiwan is more substantial than it ever has been in the Life of anybody listening right now because semiconductors have never mattered more than they do right now to overall global commerce.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I mean, you can also forget about the US China tech race because they win, basically, or they will win for the foreseeable future. Right. That the advantage that they would have from gaining that technology for making it part of their immediate supply chain, having control over. We would be. There's a. Look, we can't make the 90% of the chips that Taiwan, can we. America can't do that right now. So that tells you a lot, I think. And that tells you that there's something particularly special about where they are, this technology. Clay, as I told you, I mean, they. It's harder to. Getting into TSMC is harder than getting into Langley. You're not allowed to take that. They cat. They collected our phones at the bus get like in the.
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Clay Travis
You know, even marking down to the physical location.
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Buck Sexton
Oh yeah.
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Clay Travis
To restrict your.
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Buck Sexton
No photos of the building. Nothing. I mean, total. Total, you know, have to go in totally clean. And this was for a meeting in their conference room with their, you know, their. Their public affairs team. I mean, it wasn't like we were going into anything, but they are places on Total because they're. The Chinese are trying to steal their stuff all the time. So very aggressively. Probably other countries as well. The other thing that I think was interesting is Trump is a little. It's a little testy about the Iran situation here. He was speaking to. This is again on Air Force One. So sorry, the audio is not perfect, but we want you to hear what the president himself said. This is cut to. He's talking to New York Times. A New York Times reporter. And well, you can imagine how that went. Play it.
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Donald Trump
I had a total military victory. Guys like you write incorrectly. You're a fake gu. Guys like you write about it correctly. We've had a total victory. Except by people like you that don't write the truth. You know, you should write. I actually think it's sort of treasonous what you write. But you and the New York Times and cnn, I would say, are the worst. You should know better. You know better. Your editors tell you what to write. And you're right. I actually think it's treason when you write like they're doing well militarily and have no navy, no Air Force, no anti. Anything. And then I read the New York Times and they act like they're doing well. Everybody knows. And that's why your subscribers are way down. You know, the Times subscribers are way down because it's fake
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Buck Sexton
Trump seeming to be a little agitated with the question about how things are going with Iran. Here's the situation. We don't have an Iran deal yet and it's middle of May and right now, the strait, how many I should check how many boats have gone through the strait in the last couple of days. How many of the of the ships are actually moving through? Clay, they got to figure this thing out. They got to figure it out fast.
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Clay Travis
Yes, they do. And a couple of things to clean up. Yes. According to the team which immediately went to Chat GPT, I would suggest GROK should be our go to because I think it's more truth seeking than some of these others. But Joe Biden more than once suggested the US Would militarily defend Taiwan. And after several of those remarks, this is according to ChatGPT. White House officials clarified that they had not changed the policy, meaning they are sticking to strategic ambiguity. So that is Biden, but that has happened several different times where the goal has been to kind of let people not know what we're doing. I don't know what the intent was from Biden there.
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Buck Sexton
Buck, can I just say, Clay, I checked and the last 24 hours there have been three ships that have gone through the Strait of Hormuz. It's down 95 plus percent. So the Strait of Hormuz is not an active waterway for, for commerce right now.
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Clay Travis
I think they let Chinese ships through at the beginning of this trade discussion. Let's check on that because I think there were reports that 30 Chinese flagged ships went through since the start of the week. Check and see if that's correct. Here's the other thing though, Buck, on the Taiwan front and obviously this impacts Iran too. But the US Tried to shut off all relations globally, so did the rest of the world with Russia when they invaded Ukraine and arguably that just strengthened Russia internally. But Buck, the US can't cut China off. So it's not like we can just say, okay China, we're going to give you significant consequences for invading. They produce so much of the manufacturing that under undergirds the entire US Economy, including the iPhones that virtually everybody has in their pocket. All of it comes out of China. And so this is, look, the Iran situation, the China situation, China has a lot of ability to basically act as they see fit. And so I do think this is going to be an ongoing dance and we have to just hope China doesn't decide to do it because they think militarily it's too difficult to accomplish.
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Buck Sexton
This is cut Five, Trump here said that he was not asking Xi Jinping for any favors to help open the Strait of Hormuz. Hit it.
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Donald Trump
President Xi make any commitment to put
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Clay Travis
pressure on the Iranians to reopen the Strait of Hormuz?
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Donald Trump
I'm not asking for any favors because when you ask for favors, you have to do favors in return. We don't need favors. Ask him to put pressure because I don't, I don't need favors. I think he will, I think automatically he'd like to see it opened up. He gets about 40% of his energy or oil from that. You know, from the straight we get none.
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Buck Sexton
So he's saying he didn't use any chips on that one. Something that I'm going to. We're going to, I think Clay keep a very close eye on. Although the words around this stuff yet matters. People love to get it into the, the tea leaf reading in diplomacy. But does he allow the $11 billion of arms shipments is 11 or 15. Check that one for me, team. The billions of dollars of arms shipments that have been, that have already been approved for Taiwan, does he follow through on that deal? Because, you know, missiles talk, BS walks. I mean, if he's actually arming up Taiwan, what he says about Taiwan matters a little bit less. The most important thing is giving them the capacity to defend themselves.
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Clay Travis
96% chance that we give Taiwan. All the military that we have told Taiwan we're going to give them. According to polymarket. I looked that up this morning because I was curious. There was discussion about whether Trump might back up a little bit. All of the money coming in is
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Buck Sexton
saying, well, Trump said, he said, maybe I will, maybe I won't. He's been very Trump, but I think that's. He's going to. He just wants to say, maybe I will, maybe I won't.
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Clay Travis
I agree with you.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's very likely he'll do that because it would be a huge sign negatively for Taiwan if at this point he cut off that arms deal. So I don't think that's going to happen. Business insurance is a must have if you're running a business. Super sure is the first company that we know of that makes sense of all the business insurance policies that owners like you must maintain to operate their business wise. Wisely. Business owners complain. There's so many policies, applications, all these different brokers. It's a mess. Super sure changes that One broker for all your business insurance backed by a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. And if you've ever stared at a policy wondering what it covers. Super sure has a fine print facts tool that translates the legal jargon into plain English so you know what's covered and what's not. Go online to supersure.com buck and get a full report on your current policies with no obligation. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured or somewhere in between. Go to super sure.com buck one powerful platform. All your policies in one place supershore.com buck paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, a licensed insurance agency. Laugh, learn and hang with the guys.
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Clay Travis
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Martha Stewart
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smoked brisket and Mediterranean chicken with code free meat@truenaturemeats.com welcome back into Clay and Buck. And I'm going to, just going to take us in a different direction here for a second. We got a lot of guests. We're going to do a lot of news as we go through the program with them as well. But I just, I just have to. I just have. I can't. What, what would we do if the View was no more Clay? It would be such a loss for this program because any day that I have where I go, you know, what are we really going to talk about today? What is there? What ignorance? What foolishness is out there in the information news ecosystem that we have to obliterate just for the good of truth, justice and the American way? The View always delivers. It's like, oh, is nothing. Oh no, they said, they said something on that show. It really is a show designed for stupid left wing women to think that what they think isn't stupid. That's the whole purpose of the show. You don't have to read any books. You don't have to know anything about anything. You turn on the View and it's like Trump is head low and, and oh my God, they're racist over at the Republicans. It's, you know, Joy Behar, the whole thing, it's total nonsense. But the nastiest of them is quite clearly. And it's funny to Clay because, you know, I know people who have been not just on the View as guests. I know I am friends with former View co hosts. So I know some of the behind the scenes scuttlebutts. Some of the scuttlebutt, if you will. First of all, it's Whoopi show and everyone has to do whatever Whoopi says. Just so you know, like she, she can, she rules the View with an iron fist. Used to be Barbara Walters, now it's Whoopi Goldberg who just, she's queen bee and everyone else can like. And I'm sure Sunny Hostin doesn't particularly like that. But Sunny Hostin is the most hostile of the co host there. I don't even, I don't even know. It's the only ones I know. It's Behar Hostin and then Whoopi and then there's the good looking Trump turncoat chicken.
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Clay Travis
I don't remember Griffin.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you.
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Clay Travis
And then I believe there do they is is the other Ana Navarro. She's not regularly on. Right. Is it usually four? I'm not sure what they generally, I
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Buck Sexton
think they have a. Yeah, they, they, they work it in and out. I mean, are they working people in and out?
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Clay Travis
Anyway, point is, working in and out would be a hell of a double job.
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Buck Sexton
So, so, so Sunny Hostin, Sunny Hostin is talking here about the controversy that has erupted around the Odyssey. Now people will say, oh, this is just giving them free press. No. Do you guys remember what happened to Woke Snow White? All we know is nothing really happened because that thing went down in flames.
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Clay Travis
It was the biggest money losing film in the history of Disney. Snow White. This is, this is I think emblematic and a perfect distillation of how woke destroys everything. The success of Snow White basically built the Walt Disney Corporation. For people out there who are business savants, Disney made over a billion dollars on Snow White in 1930s adjusted inflation adjusted dollars. It's to a large extent why the company exists today, why Disneyland exists, why Disney World exists. And then they lost nearly $200 million in modern dollars on the Snow White remake that they decided to make Super Woke. So that's a distillation there of what happened.
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Buck Sexton
And so this is not, oh, if you're talking about it, you're giving it attention because sometimes the negative attention brings these things down and really brings them down in flames. And I, I think that Christopher, some of you are probably huge Christopher Nolan fans and that's okay. No one's perfect. You're allowed to be wrong about some things. He has made a couple of good movies and a lot of very bad movies. That movie Dunkirk has some very cool parts to it, but do you really go back and watch it more than once? It's kind of becomes kind of long, eerie and boring after a while. My opinion, the other one's Inception. Just a trash movie. Just a trash movie. It makes no sense. The whole thing is just absurd. I don't even. I saw it. I don't remember anything about it other than this is a bad movie. The Batman movies are good. I get credit where. The Batman movies are very good. Credit where it's due. What else is a Christopher Nolan movie? I've never seen is Interstellar. Christopher Nolan movie?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Interstellar is pretty good. I like that one. And he initially made his. Made his name, I think. Do you remember Memento?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, Oppenheimer. Nope. Nope. See Throwing a flag. Oppenheimer. Way too long, way too boring. Way too soft on the reality of the commie penetrations of our. Of our nuclear program. You know, it's so sad. They're being mean. Yeah, well, they're actually. Are spies stealing nuclear secrets, guys. They're going to be mean about that.
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Clay Travis
I haven't ever seen. I still haven't seen Oppenheimer, but he may be.
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Buck Sexton
It has one hour that's good. The middle hour. Clay is good. Where they're actually focused on the nuclear program. The beginning at big first hour and the third hour where it's like. Are they oppressing him because they say he's a communist? Yeah, he actually was a communist and he was surrounded by communists and they stole our nuclear secrets and it almost ended the whole world. So I think it's bigger than the hurt feelings of Oppenheimer.
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Clay Travis
Okay. The ones that he made his. Made his name on really were Memento in 2000 and then. Did you watch Insomnia back in 2002? Pretty good movie. That was set, if I remember correctly, in Alaska. Yeah, it's where the sun never goes down. It was a.
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Buck Sexton
He did that movie. That movie that was like. Well, there's a badly titled. Because that movie makes you fall asleep. That movie sucked.
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Clay Travis
I thought it was pretty good movie sucked. I'm not looking at the plot again.
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Buck Sexton
He's talking nonsense.
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Clay Travis
He's just solid. That's how he got the. The trilogy. That's how he Gotta tell you guys. Trilogy.
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Buck Sexton
When Clay agrees with it with me though, that a movie or TV show is bad. It should. That. That Movie or TV show should die in a fire and be buried like you know, in the center of the earth. Like it's the worst thing because Clay is very, he's, he's, he's an easy like movie.
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Clay Travis
I went to go see the Michael Jackson movie last night. Pretty good. Pretty good. The Michael Jackson movie.
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Buck Sexton
I couldn't do it, dude. I couldn't do it.
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Clay Travis
He was so talented. It was really good. I took, I took all three kids. I took all three kids. It was good. It's I think number one movie in America. So let's play Sunny Hostin because this is now they have, they have made casting decisions. They put. How do you pronounce Lupita Nwongo or something like that.
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Buck Sexton
I don't know. But she's, she's she's hella natural, Chris. She's, she is, she is, she's, you know, very, very dark skinned. She's, she's attractive. I'm not going to say she's not. It's not, she's not pretty but she's very dark skinned. She's clearly African. And they have cast her as Helen of Troy. They've also allegedly cast the, the trans
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Clay Travis
actor as Achilles Elliot Page who used to be named Ellen Page. Sorry to dead name. And it has gone crazy. Memes because they have put.
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Buck Sexton
I mean memes are amazing and hilarious. Do you think that, that. I, I think they did it. I don't think that they would go this far with it if it wasn pretty solid reporting on this. That Ellen Elodie at Page or whatever is the. Ok but, but back to the historical part of it. This is the most perfect Sunny Hostin thing ever. Getting all huffy about it. Play cut one.
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Jan Yakilek
This idea was also explored in a
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Katie Zachariah
book called Black Athena. I think people should read it. Which argues that classical Greek culture is heavily indebted to Afro Asiatic and near Eastern roots. I actually taught Greek mythology to 8th graders and so I covered this. So people that are saying that Helen of Troy could not possibly be played by a black woman don't know history.
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Buck Sexton
She's a moron. That book Black Athena that she has is basically it is a punching bag for the entire archeological classics historian. It is absolutely trash heap garbage everyone. It's a mockery. Actually the Black Athena book, it came out like almost 1990 around then some of you, like I took some classics at Amherst. So some of this stuff, you know, when you go back, you recall this book Clay. One of the premises is that in you know that basically Egypt first of All Egypt as part of Africa is a whole other thing as well. I know it is part of the continent of Africa, but when you're talking about sub Saharan Africans vs Egyptian, the Egyptians who were there and the Greek Mediterranean at the time, it's very different than what people think. Like Cleopatra was Greek, Cleopatra was not black. But put this aside for a second. She cites a book that if you. Everybody even left wing, left wing archaeology, it's tough to get all people in classics and archeology clay to agree on something. She cites a book that is completely refuted trash and everyone says is nonsense. And she's like, and you don't know history. It's amazing.
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Clay Travis
So a couple of things. I went to the actual text, which is what they always tell lawyers to do anytime there's disputes over anything, right? Contract, dispute. What matters? The contract, the contract, the contract. Here is what Homer used to describe Helen of Troy. In case you wonder. He frequently describes her as white, armed, over and over and over again. White arm, pale skin. Okay. So to the extent that you care. He also describes her as lovely haired or beautiful haired. And which is well cured for hair, long lustrous hair. So those are two descriptors. There are. And then beauty over and over again. All of these different things. So if you are choosing to cast a black actress in this role, you are making the decision to not follow the historical record and put a really pretty white woman in this role. What I would tell you is if there were a historical record of a famous good looking black woman and a white woman were put in that role, Hollywood would burn. Ok, so this is, this is like the whole Bridgerton thing or your example yesterday where they decide to put a black Viking in even though there's no way it's going to happen.
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Buck Sexton
Excuse me, a black female female Viking. Because there were a lot of, a lot of black female military leaders in Norway circa 800 AD.
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Clay Travis
Yes. So I mean it's totally historically ridiculous, but not any more ridiculous than Bridgerton, which is set in my understanding. I've never watched it. Which is set in 17th and 18th century England. And then there are just tons of otherwise white characters. Pride and Prejudice, she's done this to that are played by black characters. Because race is an illusion. And it doesn't matter. I was outside this week, Buck. They're doing a musical called 44, which is a Barack Obama inspired musical that was showing right across the street from where our studio is in Washington D.C.
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Buck Sexton
you couldn't pay me to go see that, by the way. Like there's no sum of money that would make me sit.
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Clay Travis
I might. I might give you a sum of money that would make you do it. What if they made a white guy play Barack Obama? Can you imagine if they said race is an illusion? We have decided to cast a white guy to play Barack Obama in the musical 44? There would. They would burn down the theater in Washington.
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Buck Sexton
We could do the smug thing that they do on the left whenever they do this. By the way, control of history is not something that is just. This isn't just an intellectual exercise. People like to change and control history to inform the president. As we know a lot of political policies that are pushed on us today. We're always told because of the legacy of. Because of the history of. They use these phrases explicitly when telling us, give us more of your stuff. You can't have this. The laws don't apply equally, whatever it may be. It's the legacy of the history of. They cite. Now you might say, well, they won't do that with ancient history. No, they actually do. Because the whole point here is that we can't have a celebration of Western civilization. Western civilization is the theft of other civilizations. This is all lies. And they do it for a reason. And that's why it's worth actually pushing back. Because also, I think people should know what is true. And I think knowing the truth about history matters.
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Clay Travis
I think all of that is true. You might be saying, okay, why did this happen? To a large extent, this may be required in order for Christopher Nolan's film to be able to win an Oscar. Because if you just did an entire epic focused on Odysseus, right, Who I believe is played by Matt Damon. Am I correct in that? If you just did an ancient Greek epic and it only starred white people, then you would be in a position where you don't qualify for an Oscar. And I would think someone in Hollywood would have raised their hand over this. Did Saving Private Ryan win the Oscar for Best Picture? Did Schindler's List win the Oscar for Best Picture? I think they both did.
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Buck Sexton
Schindler's List. Did Saving Private Ryan. Did not Shakespeare in Love beat it that year? Which people are very. I know, I know.
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Clay Travis
That's a fair retroactive. Ashamed for the decision made by Hollywood. But my point on that is you would not be able to make either Saving Private Ryan or, I mean, heck, I don't know. Shakespeare in Love is set in Elizabeth. Elizabeth in England. So I don't believe you could make that movie even now because white people have to play the roles, because historically it was pretty much. I know you can talk about Othello, but pretty much most Shakespearean roles were intended for white actors.
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Buck Sexton
So if you're setting that era Othello, the more they were very clear about where he came from and who he was.
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Clay Travis
Correct. And so my point on this is, let's just use Saving Private Ryan as an example. It would be better if it had won the best Picture. But how do you make a movie about D day that's diverse? It's a bunch of white dudes who stormed the beach and tried to kill a bunch of white dudes. Right. And if you're going to accurately reflect the battle of D Day, it is a bunch of white people shooting at each other. You could not make. It would not qualify under existing Oscar diversity rules. You could not make that film and win an Oscar for Best Picture. So this might be the motivation for Christopher Nolan, is that he had to put in this diversity in order to qualify, even if it's a historical.
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Buck Sexton
You know, there's a movie, Zulu, with Michael Caine, which I actually owned the DVD of when I was in college, randomly, if you cast all the Zulu warriors as, like, Filipino actors because of where you were filming, for example, this actually happened, by the way, in the Rambo movies. They have a lot of Mexican actors playing the Vietnamese guys. Just putting that, just so you know, that's a real thing.
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Clay Travis
Go to it. Go to a Chinese restaurant in America. There's a lot of. A lot of Mexican dudes that are playing the role of Asian people.
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Buck Sexton
But. But if you set a historical piece and you said these. This is a band of. Of Zulu warriors, and then you had them all, and you had, like, half of them cast with, you know, Asian and, like, Latino actors, people would completely lose their minds over this. The same people who want to tell you that the Helen of Troy thing is totally fine. So, you know, Clay, this is the point. They want to have it both ways always. So what's theirs? Quote, unquote. What's non white history is sacrosanct.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Anything that involves white history, completely rewrite, completely change, alter and. And, you know, unmoor it from the facts. There you go. That's really what the rule is.
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Clay Travis
No doubt. We'll come back, we'll take some of your calls, and we will continue to follow all of the craziness that is unspooling as we roll into the weekend. But I want to tell you, if you're out there right now, maybe you got some roof damage, maybe you Just wonder if you have roof damage. Check out Aerie Home. They've got an incredibly awesome deal. A free free inspection@eriehome.com Clay today for you to see if you might need a new roof. If you do, they will give you a 50 year warranty and they will take $1,200 off the cost. You have nothing to lose. If you've been thinking about getting a new roof and maybe you're worried about who might be doing the roofing because that can make it very nerve wracking. This is a very reliable company. They've been in business for a long time. They will give you a 50 year transferable warranty meaning if you ever sell your home, that warranty will transfer into onto whomever buys that home. This is a reliable, trustworthy company that can take care of your roof@eriehome.com Clay $1200 off if you decide to use them. Free inspection Erie Home.com clay what do you have to lose? Eerie Home.com clay Three center pals playing Buck on the Iheart welcome back in Clay. Travis Sexton show. You just heard us talking about the book Killed to Order. Jan is with us right now. Chinese organ donation. And I just want to go back to this because Jan, it says absolutely. It sounds absolutely insane. It sounds like something that would come out of science fiction. So what you were telling us as you went to break is in China, if you are wealthy enough, you can basically purchase any organs that you need that would be necessary for you to sustain life. In other words, if you have a kidney that is failing right here in the United States we have a huge organ donation list. Hopefully a lot of you are organ donors on your phones. But in China you could just say, hey, I'm super rich. Go buy me a kidney. And even crazier things like hearts.
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Jan Yakilek
So that's exactly right. So actually, let me lay out how it is very briefly in an ethical system like in the U.S. okay, if I need a new heart, I need to get it from a catastrophic accident. Someone has to. It's usually a car accident or a motorcycle accident. And then that person can't be completely dead. Once the circulation stops, the organs degrade really quickly. So they have to. It's this very particular type of accident. Maybe the person's head's crushed, but there's still a bit of circulation or something like that. And then our bodies also reject foreign things, right, like organs as well. So we control for that by matching for blood type and histology for tissue type. The size of the Organ has to kind of match for the recipient as well. The point here is that it's. The supply is a lot, lot less than the demand, okay? That's the reality. So there's always a lot of desperate people out there that are. Want to get that organ. And this is where communist China comes in, okay? Because basically here, as I mentioned, right, you can actually get. And this, we've had multiple examples of this, the organs being procured within days, if not weeks. And so let me give you a little bit of context, okay? China has this history. It's a unique situation to China. China has this history of creating what are called black classes, okay? Over decades. The first one of them were landowners. So they wanted to. They became, you know, the Communist Party seized power, they wanted to take those people's land. So they had to kind of convince the population this is somehow okay to do that, right? So they pushed this mass dehumanizing propaganda through the system. Actually very similar talking points to what you would have heard in 1930s in Germany. The Nazi propaganda, okay, Basically make these people dangerous kind of pariahs beneath you, all of that. And now it kind of activates this quirk in our psychology and human psychology that you can kind of accept bad things being done to people. And even. And for some people, they may even sort of participate in that, okay? They have this long history of doing this. And even now with these advanced media tools, it's even more powerful. In 1999, the Chinese Communist Party created its newest black class. It turned on this group called Falun Gong Practitioners. Okay? This was 70 to 100 million people. One in 13 Chinese were doing this slow motion exercise, practice, living, truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, these kind of principles, okay? But it was very, also very unusual. This is what sets up this unique circumstance where you can get this kill to order. It wasn't structured. It was like, you know, there's no roster in it, there's no hierarchy, there's no worship. Even though there's kind of a deep spirituality, like you're not joining anything. People are very self directed, okay? And the regime discovered there's more people doing this than Communist Party members. They turn on them, they turn them into a black class. But kind of for the first time in history, it turns out that these people are not re educating easily, right? When you turn up make a black class, you're not kind of killing everybody or something like that. You just need them to confess their sins. The land, you know, I was wronged to be a landowner. You guys deserve it, whatever you, whatever they want to make you say. The Falun Gong were not going to accept being called evil and all these kinds of things. So they incarcerated huge amounts of them. There was this kind of unwritten rule in those prisons that torture of these people would be considered suicide. In other words, you can work on them as far as you need to to break them because they wouldn't break easily. And this is what set up kill to order. Because now what they did is they started blood typing, tissue typing and organ scanning. These people, they created a database of all of these vitals. Remember the stuff that I talked about earlier, what you need in this ethical transplantation system. So now if I'm the wealthy transplant, you know, tourist, I could even be from America. This has happened from Germany, from many countries and of course most it'll be from within China. There's actually someone in the database because there's so many people incarcerated, so many people in this database. There's a person that's been pre matched for me and the moment I make that transaction, I pay that money. That person can be shipped and killed to order. That's the reason that's the name of my book. So this is a very extreme thing and like you said, it's like science fiction. In the early years it was hard for me to even talk to people about this. People would literally clue out in the middle of conversations. It's just so horrifying. Right?
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Buck Sexton
Speaking of Yan, Yan Yechielik and Yakalik rather, and his book is Killed to Order. Can you just. For anybody who's skeptical about this, and I think anyone who has a familiarity with how things operate in China actually believes that this could very well be happening. But to people who maybe are just like, hold on a second, just what, what are the sources? I mean, what are the ways that you could convince a skeptic that this is going on? Like what are the sources that you draw upon? Where else has this been either written about or research been done on this? Because it is so horrific that it, it is, it feels hard to imagine that this is going on the second most powerful country in the world and that the leadership of that country is not only aware of it, but directly benefiting from it. I mean, it sounds like Xi Jinping might have somebody else's liver
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Jan Yakilek
100%. So there's, as one of the researchers of this, David Matus, actually he helped hunt down the last Nazi war criminal hiding in Canada. He calls it an evil yet to be seen on this planet. And he also says that the problem with this situation is there's too much evidence and not enough. But let me give you a few lines of evidence. Right? Some of it was literally people would call in the early days until they figured out that we were doing that. People would call the Chinese hospitals and say, how quick can I get an organ? I've got the money. Do you have Falun Gong organs? And we have recordings of people saying, yes, absolutely. And it would come in two weeks. We'll set you up. Okay, so that the problem partially also is the moment that you do that, right? Then very quickly the word spreads and there aren't people answering the phone like that anymore. Another piece of evidence there was literally ads. Ads would list prices online. Okay. Of course, when we publicized this, they also went underground. But we have, of course, archives of this, both the wait times under two weeks and the price lists. Okay, so that's just to give you a starting point. There's a whole tribunal that was held 2019 to 2020. Sir Geoffrey Nees, who had prosecuted Slobodan Milosevic back in the day, he held this international tribunal, put all the evidence. Okay? So there's actually, if you, if you want to check out chinatribunal.com and look at the body of evidence that exists there. But let me give you one example. Okay? There's a paper in the American Journal of Transplantation from just a few years back. What the authors did was they thought to themselves, we know that this kill to order is the standard way, that this is just how the system in China works. I wonder if it's gotten so normalized because remember, this has been happening now for 26 odd years, right? So I wonder if it's so normalized that they're actually writing into the scientific methods of their publicly available peer reviewed research papers that they've killed people to order. Okay? So what they, they looked at about 2,000 papers of the scientific, the Chinese scientific transplant literature, and they found 71 instances. And these were very stringent criteria. I actually think the number is much higher than this. But given the most stringent criteria, okay, they found 70 studies where the dead donor rule was very clearly violated. In other words, the person was killed by having their organs removed. They had actually written that into their scientific, peer reviewed research methods in their paper.
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Clay Travis
So, yeah, this, this is, this is kind of crazy stuff. How much more expansive do you think it could become? And one of the challenges of. I know this because I've done a few cases related to it and I'm sure some people unfortunately have had to deal with it themselves. Sometimes organ donation doesn't take, right? You have somebody who. Who doesn't take a kidney or they don't take. I mean, this is. This is really kind of dark stuff. How prevalent do we think it really is? I mean, it doesn't surprise me that the leader of China could do this because obviously he's an authoritarian. If Putin wanted somebody's kidney, it wouldn't surprise me if they just took it in Russia. But how commonplace do we think this actually is right now?
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Jan Yakilek
So I testified in front of the Congressional Executive Commission on China yesterday, and with me up there was Ethan Gottman, one of the hero researchers of this whole thing. He's written a number of his own books. One was called the Slaughter on this sort of development of the system. Another one's called the Xinjiang Procedure. By the way, people not having done anything really, like the international community really didn't respond to this for a great number of years. So by 2015, starting around 2000, we get this geometric growth of transplant hospitals based on the Falun gong incarceration. By 2015 and 2016, the regime turns on another group, the Uyghur Muslims, okay? And they're in a very isolated region in the northwest of China. They dehumanized them. They incarcerated a million of them and started working on them, and then they even started taking these vitals in people's homes. Okay? So they added the second group. Now, going back to your question, okay, it's the estimate that Ethan offered, okay? He offered an estimate of what's happening in Xinjiang now, but the overall estimate that he offered is about 60 to 100,000 transplants annually. Okay, 60 or 100,000 transplant. We estimate it's about a 90. So. Pardon me, not a 90. A $9 billion annual industry. Okay? Now remember, in America, we had the record number of transplants last year that was 40,000. Okay? So there's always this big, big supply limitation in the transplant community in general.
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Buck Sexton
And.
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Jan Yakilek
And people have come to know now, people that have these very loose morals that are, you know, don't want to know where the organ came from or are happy to take an organ that someone was killed for. They know they can go to China to do that. And from what we know, we have examples of people from all over the world having done it.
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Clay Travis
This is a crazy story. We appreciate the time. If people are interested in more, how do they find it?
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Jan Yakilek
So thank you for asking that. Okay, killtower.com. that's the short link to the Amazon link. And I would love it if you got the book. You might be skeptical. Listen, I got hit over the head by the evidence back in 2006. I didn't want to believe it was true then. Okay, but check it out for yourself. I have a whole chapter dedicated to the evidence and also what we can do. One of the big issues just super quickly is our own complicity. We've trained some of these transplant surgeons, and there's all sorts of other ways that we're kind of involved that we should stop. And that was part of the testimony the other day. Right. That we're basically talking about trying to have legislation and executive action to basically at least cut into this a little bit, because it's a crime against humanity and we shouldn't be a party to it in any way.
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Clay Travis
Amen. Thank you for the time today.
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Buck Sexton
Great work. This is fascinating stuff, by the way, man. I really. I remember when I talked to you about it when I saw you in D.C. it's like, we got to have him on clay. I mean, it's. It's horrible, but it's important. You know, it's. People got to know about this. All right. Thank you, John.
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Jan Yakilek
No, and I wanted to say thank you guys for taking this on. It means the world to me. It's, you know, 20 years of work and, you know, finally people really want to know. From my heart to yours.
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Clay Travis
Thank you.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you.
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clay and Buck gets going right now and we're joined by commentator Katie Zachariah out of the great state of California. And Katie, appreciate you being here with us. And we have the a couple things. We got the governor's race which is interesting in and of itself. We've also though got this mayor's race. Guys, do we have this some of the song that is part of the Spencer Pratt campaign? Can we? I, I want everyone, I want you to listen closely to the lyrics here. The video is even better. Maybe we can put that up @clay&buck.com this is a campaign commercial that's created a song that is catchy but also tells the tale. And Katie, I wanted to have you react to it but let's let everyone hear this. A little snippet of this campaign song. Play it. Dirty needles, human waste.
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Clay Travis
We just named two awful things.
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Buck Sexton
A stolen car, a burned down house.
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Clay Travis
You know what's awful? Everything.
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Jan Yakilek
Mom's in shock, hit the locks.
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Clay Travis
A camp of addicts down the block.
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Jan Yakilek
Lots of tense of very big mess.
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Clay Travis
Awful scenes are not the best camps. Traps and crap, they're awful.
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Buck Sexton
Crack, smack and shacks, they're awful.
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Katie Zachariah
Slums and scum and bums.
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Jan Yakilek
That's awful.
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Clay Travis
Everything you see or smell or touch is awful.
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Buck Sexton
She's killing our dreams. So you guys get the idea. Karen Bass is awful. She's killing our dreams. Human poop, buildings, burning needles, bums, slums. That's catchy stuff, Katie.
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Katie Zachariah
Well, it's, it's exactly why I left Brentwood, which is adjacent to Santa Monica. We're in the park. There is fentanyl. There's needles on the streets. You can't delineate or differentiate between human feces and what could be dog poop in barrels of urine and water bottles all over the streets. I mean, this isn't exaggerating. This song actually perfectly encapsulates what it is like right now to live in Los Angeles. This is the Summer 2026 song. And I hope that the people of Los Angeles city understand that the current trajectory they're on will continue to lead to more poop, more pee, more fires, more and more needles. Or they can choose a practical solutions mayor that's actually going to try to fix some of these problems rather than continue them.
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Clay Travis
Katie. Tuesday I was out with a bunch of people who live in the LA area for dinner. And all of the conversation as it was about the mayor's campaign was about how great the ads are that Spencer Pratt's team has been putting out, that AI assistance has helped him to put out. And a lot of people sitting around the table were saying, I'm not voting for Karen Bass. But they were skeptical that Spencer Pratt could win. Do you think he has a chance to win right now? Kalsh Poly Market prediction markets have him at around 25%. We saw Karen Bass triumph over Rick Caruso, who was a very successful business person in that runoff election. She's done an awful job. But how do you see this playing out?
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Katie Zachariah
It's a tough one. Karen Bass is the establishment Democrat. And let's not forget Nancy Pelosi runs this state still. Even though she's barely walking and functional, she runs the state, and the establishment Democrats run the state. So you have Gavin Newsom, we have all the good ones, Adam Schiff. And what happens with this is you have to clear on June 2, you have to clear the 50% threshold to make it. You. You win. So if Ramon drops out and a lot of the people who are supporting Ramon, which is. Which is current city, LA City council, that surge will likely go to Karen Bass. So Spencer Pratt has to either keep her under 50% or get past her. Those are. Those are his two options. Now, if Karen Bass doesn't make it to June 2nd at 50%, then it goes into the general election. And so it'll likely be Spencer Pratt and Karen Bass in the general, and. And that's where he stands to gain a lot of momentum from here until November. But as we look at, obviously June 2nd, this is going to be a tricky one because Ramon likely will drop out. Now, can he win? We don't have voter id, so I'm always skeptical of anything, any, any national race or local race when you don't have voter id, especially, especially in corrupt Los Angeles, because right now they're trying to make it local. City councilman is trying to pass legislation or an act that elite criminal illegal aliens can participate in our city elections. So we have this constant back and forth right now.
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Buck Sexton
So the campaign is looking really cool. It's getting a lot of attention nationwide. And I just wonder in. I understand that there's like the teachers unions, the public sector unions, there's going to be the machinery of the Democrat Party in L. A that comes out against him, but in just in your circles, outside of the Conservative, tried and true. But are you picking up that there is something of a cultural phenomenon going here for Los Angelenos and that this is breaking through, or are we just getting too happy about this as outsiders looking in because he's going viral on social media, trashing how terrible Democrats are and also with his really cool hummingbird videos, which I have to say are amazing.
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Katie Zachariah
They are amazing. It's a little bit of both and I hate to be a wet blanket on it, but I'm a native Californian. I lived here my whole life and it is very difficult. I very much supported Rick Caruso in his, in his bid for mayor. And it came in, it came in really, really close. And he had developed, he had a very successful track record, is extremely successful commercial developer and lost by a tiny margin. But who came in, who came in to support him at the end, literally? Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, they all came in to support, excuse me, Karen Bass and it took her over the finish line. And so what I'm skeptical about is not can he go viral online? Are the people that are excited about the viral online videos going to turn out to vote? Who is going to turn out to vote in this election? And he may get a lot of kind of local grassroots support, but he also is up against this party that doesn't care about cheating and that also will leverage every single weapon that they can to come out and support Karen Bass to continue to stay in power in la.
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Clay Travis
Okay, let's talk the governor's race because there's a lot of drama surrounding the LA mayor's race. There's also a ton of drama surrounding the governor's race. Ballots are out. Correct me if I'm wrong, Katie. People have started to vote. Early voting underway. Steve Hilton is, by all the polling that I have seen and also the Kalshee Poly Market numbers, the leading Republican candidate. There seems to be a lot of shifting going on in who the favored Democrat is. Tom Steyer had a little bit of a run. He's a billionaire. A lot of people thought that he was going to be the nominee. Now it seems like Becerra is surging as the top Democrat. How would you assess where we are headed? And for people who don't know the top two advance, it's a so called jungle primary where you could end up with two Democrats, you could end up with two Republicans, you could end up with one of each. Where are we headed here?
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Katie Zachariah
Well, you're exactly right. Becerra is polling ahead. He was the former Attorney general of California and was an absolute disaster as attorney general. And he was also ahead of Health and Human Services also nothing notable that he ever did under that, under Joe Biden. And so he's running on an anti Trump platform. So he thinks he's not running against Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco. He's everything he said in the governor's debate yesterday was basically President Trump is the reason we have high gas in California, that that is his platform as anti Trump. And the Democrat Party has really just fallen to the wayside in not even actually being able to contend on policy or debate who they're running against. But everything is so anti Trump. So if we have Becerra and then Steve Hilton, it's very, again, without voter ID in California on statewide elections, it's very difficult for a Republican to win. Now, Steve Hilton stands a large chance if you have a top two. If you have Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco now, that's two Republicans that could be in the top two. But Becerra somehow made this dramatic pulling jump off of no track record and off of anti Trump rhetoric to kind of surge ahead. So I'm hoping that Steve Hilton can continue to at least stay in that top two. As we head towards the primary, we're
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Buck Sexton
speaking to our friend Katie Zachariah. And Katie, the audience may not know this. I know this. You lived in China for a number of years, so you know quite a bit about China. And China was in the news not just for Trump's visit there, but also because a Southern California mayor resigned after pleading guilty to acting as a foreign agent for China. You see, NBC News writes that this has sparked backlash and reignited fears of anti Asian discrimination. So one, if you could speak to us about the Chinese intel penetration of California and the rest of the country. But also you want to just have some fun with. NBC News is worried that while they're running spies here, there might be some anti Asian hate that comes up from it.
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Katie Zachariah
This is what the left always does. They they try to make something racist so you don't actually have to address the underlying issue. Nobody cares what race. This is a Chinese communist propaganda that a mayor of a United States city, Arcadia, was peddling to the people of not just Arcadia San Gabriel Valley, but the wider Chinese American community in the United States. And so instead of addressing that we had a foreign agent as a mayor. And really getting to the heart of how did this woman live here, Eileen Wong, how did this woman live here for 30 years as a lawful permanent resident, have two sons while she and her husband ran basically a subversive media operation for the People's Republic of China. No, no, no. We don't actually want to address how she stayed here or got elected or the fact that Rob Bonta, our Attorney General and a number of other Democrats have been seen either photographed with her or donating to her through ActBlue. We wanna say that anyone that questions this is racist. And I'm just gonna speak to this specifically, having lived in China, to understand what's happening in not just California, but the greater United States, one only has to look up to Canada or over to Australia to see that the Chinese, it's not necessarily an invasion, but as they move in and take over large communities, it's kind of a soft takeover. And when you visit San Gabriel Valley, where Eileen Wong kind of over oversaw Arcadia as mayor, it has completely changed over the last 20 to 30 years from kind of a more industrial, even blue collar community to now really what feels like, and I say it, and I've gotten a lot of flack over it online, but I'm going to continue saying it. It feels like Little Beijing. I go there if I want to taste and eat local Chinese food from when I lived in China for three years. But this is something that's scary and something that Americans need to pay attention to because they're doing it slowly, they're doing it quietly, and they're taking over not just a city or a county, but educational systems. And with birthright citizenship, I'm going to end here. But with birthright citizenship, this is exactly what the disposal sent in the prevailing Wong Kim arc, which is what the Supreme Court's relying on right now to either override or discuss. This is exactly what they were talking about. Where is the allegiance of the people who are birthing children in the United States? Is it to a foreign country or is it to the United States? And I will just clearly say that when you have a foreign agent in China who's had from China, who's had two children here, that person's allegiance is to China. And so we need to really look hard at this. And it is a much wider problem than just Southern California.
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Clay Travis
Katie, I don't know if you're planning on paying attention or watching the Odyssey, but Buck and I had a big talk. Christopher Nolan's film, you're out in la. Movies have been struggling in a big way in la. Production, moving jobs lost. A huge part of it, I really do believe, is the fact that they have these new DEI requirements and there Are reports, reports that Ellen Slash Elliot Page is going to be playing Achilles the warrior, and that Lupita Nuongo, whose last name I probably mispronounced, is going to be Helen of Troy. Do people talk about how movies have lost their way? You're in la, you're in California. It used to be a city and a state that people aspired to go visit, to live in. Feels like a lot of that cachet is lost. And to a large extent, it's because they're not focused on making great movies anymore. They're trying to check diversity boxes.
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Katie Zachariah
Yeah, well, I mean, it's offensive. The View ran a whole panel on this, basically saying we played it, we shouldn't be offended at this. So if, you know what, if Rosa Parks was played by Sandra Bullock or Nelson Mandela was played by Chris Hemsworth, this is the type of stuff that is that we're all supposed to accept the woke DEI when it's given to us, but the second we challenge it again, same with NBC. It's somehow racist or we're not accepting and tolerant. And if you look at the numbers in la, and we'll go right back to la, the exodus that LA is seeing is not just because it's a terrible, miserable place to live, but a large part of the economy in Los Angeles has been built around making movies and making films. And the entire industry is now collapsing in Hollywood because people aren't going to see these types of movies anymore. Conversely, what happened with Top Gun Maverick, I mean, that was a box office hit. Everybody loved it, it was patriotic and it was just. It was a uniting film for Americans. This can, this will not be that. And it's really systemic. If they want to actually bring business back, they're going to have to start reading the room and what the American people want. And nobody's going to go see this in the box office. We may all at the, the theaters, we may all watch it at home. So we can discuss it here and talk about how disastrous it was, but people aren't going to go see this film. And it's just, it speaks to the larger audience of like, they're tone deaf and they need to start getting the picture or we're going to continue in the decline in la.
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Buck Sexton
Katie Zachariah, everybody. Katie, we'll see you soon. Thanks so much.
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Katie Zachariah
Thank you.
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