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Friday before Memorial Day edition, Clay and Buck show. Judging by the traffic that I saw on the roads on the way into the studio here in Panama City beach, everyone, it feels like, is already off and running into a long weekend, including Buck, who will be back with me on Tuesday. But I am with you here for the next three hours, taking you in to the long weekend and likely, I would imagine helping many of you that are going to be hitting the roads for one of the biggest, most populated road weekends of the year. All of that coming your direction. President Trump has just sworn in the new Fed chair, Kevin Warsh. He is speaking right now. We are monitoring that in the White House. Some optimism potentially. I know you could basically turn this into Groundhog Day, that there may be some sort of resolution looming in Iran. There was optimism this morning and that optimism has propelled stocks to near record highs yet again. So the stock market is reacting as if there may well be some form of finality coming. Price of oil and gas has come back down substantially over the last week. It hasn't gotten a lot of attention. But as I am looking talking to you, all of you right now, $96 a barrel. When we bombed Iran, it was around $68 a barrel. So that is all underway and we will continue to update you throughout. As if that were not enough, we had another UFO files drop and we are going to be joined by some of you may listen if you can't sleep late at night. Coast to coast host George Norrie is going to join us in the third hour. I thought we could have some fun headed into the weekend, the long weekend, the UFO drop, the second batch. What does he think is going on there? And maybe we can play some X Files music during that segment. We can dive into what we believe has been revealed and we'll even have, yes, believe it or not, UFO talk here on the program. But there are a lot of different stories between now and then that we will be getting to also. By the way, Chip Roy, Tuesday is the big primary in Texas. The runoff for attorney general, for Senate. So many different big battlegrounds beginning to have their primaries. This is now the Texas runoff that is coming on Tuesday that will be taking place uh, but I wanted to start with a. A couple of these stories that are out there that. That remain kind of, I think, indicative of America. And this is gonna. This is gonna sound wild, but I. I shared this on social media, and it started to go viral. It was initially shared, I believe, by a account called End Wokeness. And as we are preparing for Memorial Day, and It is the 250th anniversary of our country, July 4th is. Is starting to become closer and closer. That 250th anniversary of our country. This is a flashback to a 1976 Coca Cola ad that has gone viral. I would encourage you guys to check out this video. But if you think to yourself, boy, it sure seems like people used to be super proud to live in the United States. Listen to this ad. And then this morning, I've been talking about the fact that I've been reading more and more about World War II, and I'm reading a great trilogy by Rick Atkinson. He's got also a Revolutionary War trilogy that he has written two of the three volumes of. And right now, I'm in the second volume of a World War II history that is focused on right now, the war in Italy, which I knew nothing about, how brutal it was. For those of you who are military historians, I'm reading right now about Anzio, and I'm probably mispronouncing it, but what these guys went through in Italy, I feel like in many ways, World War II is taught as Pearl harbor happened and then D Day happened, and that's what a lot of kids learn in the classroom. And. And there isn't anything in between. And so I'm trying to fill the in between in. And so I read about what our troops did in Africa, and now I'm reading about Italy. And then eventually I'll read more about the European theater. I've not read very much at all about the Pacific Theater, which I'm going to focus on at some point in time. But it's impossible to read American history as we come up on Memorial Day and not be impressed by what those who came before us did. And it used to be the case that you would celebrate. I would celebrate. And so would big brands. This is a Coke ad from 1976 celebrating the 200th anniversary of the United States. It wasn't that long ago. Listen to what it sounded like.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Keep the sun shining down on your something Be sure to drive now Sing my song Come down,
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Clay Travis
You and me reaching for some extra, Going to sing. All right, so what is so remarkable about that, and I would encourage you to watch the video, is 1976. It wasn't that long ago, and everyone was so proud to be an American. I sound like Lee Greenwood there. What's happened. What has happened is. And I was really thinking about this morning when I watched that video. And then I'm doing my workout, and I'm sitting there on the elliptical, old man style, reading about World War II. And I just keep coming back to, we have abandoned teaching history of kids. Worse than that, we're teaching them the history that America, instead of being the hero of much of world history, which we are, that we're the villain. And I'm a history major from college, and a part of me thinks that we really just need a national commitment to teaching American history. And I believe that that is so important because it's hard to whine when you read American history. When I was thinking about that is I'm reading about these American GIs that are buried for months on the shore of Italy, getting shelled all the time by actual Nazis, not people who say things you don't like online. Actual Nazis are shooting at them all day long. And I'm reading the letters that those guys wrote home, the parts that would actually get home. Do you know what? To a man, almost every single one of them wanted a shower and peace. They didn't want remarkable mansions on the top of mountains. They didn't want huge compounds on the beach. They wanted to be able to take a shower, brush their teeth, and hang out with their wives and their kids. And on Memorial Day, as we all get ready to head into the weekend, just think about that. Whatever challenges you might have going on in your life right now, almost certainly they pale in comparison to what those guys were dealing with this time in 1944 as they were trying to march on Rome. And how many kids do you think know that one of the challenges of youth in general, and I think about this a lot as a dad, is teaching perspective and thinking about making the right decisions for the long run as opposed to the next five hours? And I really do believe that the foundation of America is lost when we lose all connection with history. And worse than that, when, as we are here in the 250th year of our country, when we have lost our way to such an extent that in 1976, it's a different world, Coke is making an ad about how awesome America is. Think about 1976. That's eight years after MLK and RFK were assassinated. That is 15 years, 13 years after JFK was assassinated, that is soon after Watergate. The Vietnam War is still a completely raw wound on the psyche of America. Yet in 1976, everybody was still saying, boy, America's amazing. What a great country. And brands believed that. Americans believe that so much that they wanted to just connect their brands to it. The entire ad was, we're Coke, we love America. How many different brands today are even going to have an ad like that? We're insert brand and we love America. Now we can talk about who's going to win elections and we can talk about who's going to control the Senate and who's going to control the House. But we can't lose sight of what the battle really is now. And it isn't so much Democrat and Republican or independent or whatever potential political opinions you have. It's a more existential question, is America good or bad? And a lot of people, and they tend to be on the left to be fair, but also increasingly there are people on the right too who would say America is bad. America is a villain on the world history stage. And if that is the argument, recognize the battle that we are in the midst of, because you cannot win that battle if you are not first on the side of America is good and great. We talk a lot about make America great again and the goal being as forward thinking. But it's also important to recognize that it means America has been great and isn't as great as it could be. Being a fan of that argument, being a fan, being maga, Make America great again. A lot of people don't believe that America has ever been great. Leave aside the the goal of making America great again. My only contention with President Trump on that argument would be that America has always been great. But how many people out there actually believe it now in America? 25%, 30%. We have got to get back to a national commitment to teaching history because most people in America have the historical memory and knowledge of goldfish. Every time they blink, it's a new day. It's a new Instagram reel, it's a new TikTok video. There is no substance to it and there is no knowledge that undergirds it. And without a foundation or a belief in American excellence and America as a uniquely good force on the global stage, who controls the Senate doesn't matter. Who controls the House doesn't matter. Who's the President, doesn't matter. If we can't reach consensus that America is good and the greatest force for good in the history of the world, then much of what we're trying to accomplish is already lost. Now, I don't want to sound like a downer on Memorial Day weekend, it's actually the exact opposite. Because when I read American history, I am blown away by the sacrifices made by so many people to allow us to be where we are today. What troubles me is how few know what so many have done. When we come back, I'll take some of your calls. I'll talk more about this. Maybe I'll give you a little bit more history on Italy and what those guys went through as they drove to take Rome in 1944, which is how I started off my day. And maybe we can have a conversation about why so many groups in America have turned their back on this country and how if you don't teach history, you are doomed as a country. Some countries don't have that great a history. To be fair, our story is a transcendent, improbable, incredible one. Why do so few know about it? I think that in and of itself is completely and utterly tragic. But I am down on the beach right now and I saw the hurricane forecast come down recently and they said, you know, these guys always get it wrong. But first of all, the big forecasters, they say, well, we expect a mild hurricane season and then eight hurricanes hit. And they said this is going to be the worst hurricane season ever. And then no hurricanes touching land. This is kind of what weather forecasters do, it seems to me in the hurricane world, and I'm down in Florida. But I will say we've got rapid radios. Why? Because you just don't know. You just don't know when a storm is going to come in that's so bad that you're going to lose just about all your contact with everybody. And rapid radios are not complicated. They are super simple. They will work right out of the bag, right out of the shipment. 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Clay Travis
Welcome back in hour number two, Friday before Memorial Day edition of the program, we are rolling through lots of different news stories out there. Buck will be back on Tuesday. He's out with his family today. Many of you are driving around like crazy. The roads are filled because I know it took me forever to get into this Panama City studio. Panama City Beach, Florida. I'm down on the Gulf of America and I am texting right now with Shannon Spake. By the way, this story is out there and I think a lot of people are reacting to it with the it's an awful story, the death of Kyle Busch at the age of 41. He is a NASCAR legend and it has impacted people in a variety of different ways. Be about to call in. She's been covering NASCAR for a long time. I thought that a lot of you probably stunned by that news, which has crossed over beyond the world of sports. We are reacting and discussing a lot of Memorial Day. I am putting out the pitch for there to be for there to be a Lewis and Clark show that is made and there are a lot of people out there that are reacting. And I want to play some of these talk backs. Ali points out, by the way, I don't know if producer Ali and producer Greg can get in front of the mics. Is Greg in studio today? I don't know. Okay, Greg, Ali, first of all, you said this is why Rush wrote the Rush Revere series. He has the same exact driving. He understands the understood and understands the importance of history for people long into the future. You heard him talk about this. Does he sound like me? Like we're those of us who are American history, really students, we evangelize, it's hard not to. And Rush wanted to really reach the next generation with those books.
Greg
Clay, as I heard you monologuing in the last segment, that's the first thing I thought was this Rush Revere series, five books total. That he did was because of his frustration that younger people weren't really not just learning about history, but getting excited about it. The books they were given in school were either boring or textbook style. So he wanted to write YA books, young adult books that really kind of worked with their imaginations, brought history to them. He, he was very creative about the whole process. And I read the books and as an adult, I enjoyed them and learned from them. So what would you say, Greg?
Producer Greg
No, definitely. It was exactly one of the things that he believed strongly and again was the driving factor behind writing all of the books. And he talked about it frequently on
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the show because you're right, that is a tough age that like teenage tween teen getting them to read.
Clay Travis
And I think it's cool to pretend that you don't think or care about anything that happened before you. And I think partly that's just a function of teenage years. And for those of you out there who can go back in time and remember, I remember this well, anything that happened before me in sports, for instance, my dad would say, boy, Herschel Walker was amazing. I'd be like, what do I care about Herschel Walker? I care about the guys who are playing right now. I care about Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry and all these incredible players right now. And I didn't even care about athletes that much. But as you get older, you learn. Now, I've always been interested in American history, the stories of it, but I do think that gripping and grabbing young kids on understanding that whatever struggles they are going through, they seem significant to you. And some of you do have crazy. I have a nephew who had cancer as a kid. That's a really serious challenge. There are many people with very, very serious challenges out there. Most of us do not have childhood cancer. We are not fighting for our lives when we are young kids and we lose. I think an ability. To me, what it does is just toughen you up. People have gotten through way tougher things than what you are dealing with right now. You are too. You're stronger than you think you are. I think this is one reason that Charlie Kirk had resonance with young people, because he didn't teach talk to them like they are flowers that are in danger of wilting at any moment. Like they are delicate, fragile beings. I think kids want to. I mean, this is why I think sports are important, honestly, because kids want to, I think, be coached sometimes hard by people who care and have high aspirations for them. By the way, speaking of high aspirations, I meant to bring you on recently. I feel like producer Greg I was reading where Trump has an early morning person and it is, I think Susie Wiles and meaning like 6am, 7am and then he has a night person, which is Dan Scavino. Poor producer Greg, what hours am I texting you clips for the show? And I didn't even ask recently. I've been doing it for years. I was like, I hope he's got notifications turned off. What is your life like getting clips? For me, you have an opportunity to, to address the assemblage here.
Producer Greg
My wife is constantly elbowing me at like one in the morning. Your phone's going off again. It's. I kid, but no, it's. You are a early morning and late. Primarily a late night person and sending things and yes, I keep my phone off. I was actually kind of disappointed you haven't sent things for the last two days. You said something on Wednesday, but not this morning.
Clay Travis
You mean hours? Yeah, all hours. I don't sleep very much and so I will be sending things at all hours. So thank you as we come in for the holiday weekend to you guys for the work you're doing. We got some great talkbacks. I was going to hit a couple of these, by the way, I don't think I've mentioned in a little while the guests that we have lined up today. Chip Roy is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. George Norrie at the top of the next hour. Steve Deese also. And Chip Roy is a huge history guy. He's also running for the Attorney General of Texas. That should be an interesting conversation. Crazy. The second batch of UFO files have come out. I know Buck doesn't believe there's any UFO stuff out there. We've got probably I, he has to be the most listened to person who talks about UFOs on the planet, doesn't he? At least in the United States. George Norrie and I knew that the second batch was coming out soon. I didn't know officially that it was going to be coming out this morning. So we're going to talk, have some fun. Third hour with the UFO discussions. But a lot of you weighing in and reacting to the first hour of the show, the discussion surrounding history, Memorial Day and whether or not people are going to be super proud here for the 250th anniversary of our country in about six weeks. Here is Dave in Oak View, California. CUT D hey, couldn't agree with you more about mixing history and pop culture and the timing being right and it's in contrast to something you guys have said in the past when you guys would dump on the musical Hamilton. I'm not saying it's amazing, but for my 14 year old daughter who's about 16 now, it was huge. It really got her interested in the American Revolution and that was a great blending of pop culture and history. I, you know what, this is why I didn't criticize Hamilton too much. Buck hates Hamilton and I get it. It is the creators of Hamilton. It is super woke history. I just, I'm never going to buy into the idea that, oh, race is just a construct. Let's just make everybody who was white a different color. Because to me, in just a humorous way, imagine the reaction if I decided to do a Martin Luther King musical and a white guy played mlk. That feels like it would be pretty significant. I don't think that a lot of black people would say, hey, you know what? Color is just a thing. It doesn't matter if we did a musical about Barack Obama and a white guy played Barack Obama, by the way, even though he's half white. If a white guy played Barack Obama, you're not allowed to say that Barack Obama is half white. Mom was white. But FYI, Barack Obama's ancestors, I think, fought for the Confederacy. Um, yeah. So you're not allowed to say any of that, which I just said. But imagine if a white guy had played Barack Obama. People would lose their minds. Now, I actually think it would be really funny. I think it would actually point out the absurdity, which is everyone's history is protected so that only those people can play that historical group, except for white people. And it's racist if you notice that somebody who is not white is playing a white role. But it's also racist if you try to play anyone who is Asian or Hispanic or. Or black. If you put a white person in those roles, it's unexpected, unacceptable. And we were talking about this with the Odyssey, which I'm afraid Christopher Nolan is going to completely blow up. But Helen of Troy is described as a white woman. She's Greek. And so it would not make sense for Helen of Troy to be black if there were. What is the most famous historic. I don't know if we were doing a story about. Didn't they do a story recently about an African tribe that was supposedly female warriors? If I remember correctly, if it had been Sydney Sweeney playing the lead African tribe warrior, I think people would lose their minds. That would be funny to me. But you wouldn't allow it to take place. Having said all of that, everybody enters study at different ages. And so you never know what is going to be the historical event that captures someone's attention. The woman king, by the way, was that story. And I don't remember who the black female actress was, but if it's Sydney Sweeney, hopefully in a halter top, was the woman king. Then I think in Africa, look, the greatest African woman of all time. It's Sydney Sweeney. People would lose their minds. I'd probably go see the movie, but most people would lose their minds. Viola Davis, the team says if we Replaced Viola Davis with Sydney Sweeney, people would lose their minds. I still think the funniest example of this was when they remade the Lion King live action. And they said it would be racist if white people voiced the African animals. Do you remember this controversy? The original Lion King, you had white voices of the lions. Now, lions can't actually talk. So this is a creative endeavor, just FYI. And we had Jeremy Irons, I think, was he Scar, evil lion? And then we had Jonathan Taylor Thomas from Home Improvement. If I'm not mistaken, he was young Simba before Simba's voice changed. When they remade the movie, they did a live action version. They are. The lions still had to talk. But if the lions were voiced by white people, it was racist. This. I'm not. I'm not making this up. Because lions are from Africa, and therefore black people had to be the voices of the lions or it would be cultural appropriation. So in 1993, when they made the original Disney movie, we had white voices, including a white villain. Jeremy Irons, I think was Scar. Spoiler alert. Scars. The bad guy in Lion King, in case you haven't seen it, when they remade it, they said it would be racist. It would be racist if white people voiced the lions. This is the world in which we live in. But we're supposed to be fine with Alexander Hamilton being a black dude because race doesn't matter. It only matters when white people can be replaced. We've got more talkbacks. Hold on. Let me see if I can catch up here. Oh, wow. This is big news. Tulsi Gabbard has resigned as National Intelligence Director. That just came down. I will react to that because we're about to go to a commercial break. Thank you, team, for letting me know. I don't have a camera. I. Sorry, I don't have televisions in the studio that I'm in right now. But let me play these two talk backs. We'll do a break, and I'll come back and react to Tulsi Jeff in Houston.
George Norrie
Cut E. I was in the 101st
Chip Roy
Airborne in the first Gulf War, and
George Norrie
something you said just made me chuckle. He said they'd go up in the
Chip Roy
airplane, jump out, pull a cord on their belt, and pray that they landed on the ground. Well, either way, you're landing on the ground.
George Norrie
It's just hard or soft. Love you guys.
Clay Travis
That is pretty funny. Yes. They would pray they would land softly, safely, in a way that they still existed on the ground. That is very funny, though. Yes. Once you jump out, you're going to land. There is an inevitability to gravity. That is very funny. Yes. They wanted to land safely, softly, without broken legs. Still alive. Sarah in Houston, Texas News Radio 740KTRH. I think your American history movie sounds great.
Chip Roy
Although I don't know if you'd look good in buckskin.
Clay Travis
I would recommend this sounds like a great project for Angel Studios and they are so pro America. Anyway, God bless America and God bless you. Thank you. I think I would look amazing in buckskin and a coonskin cap, if you must know. Sarah, when we come back, by the way, I think we could sell this show. I think the Lewis and Clark show just from this audience. I think this audience would watch it enough to make it profitable. Am I crazy? I don't even think that's remotely crazy. There are millions of you listening right now. I think you guys all just saying, hey, this new show is coming out. We trust it, we're going to watch it. And telling your friends and family, I think just this show could make that show successful. Now, the show still has to be good, of course, but just this audience, the demand is such that I think this audience standing alone could make that successful. Okay, when we come back, news on Tulsi Gabbard. Sometimes this happens, by the way, on a Friday into a holiday. I was telling the team, monitor all the news stories, monitor everything because a lot of times you bury stories going into a long holiday weekend because a lot of people are on vacation, everybody's going to be out. And then by Tuesday it's kind of washed through the news cycle. So it always feels like these kind of weekends, these long weekends. A lot of times on the Friday afternoon we get the so called news dump. So again, Tulsi Gabbard reportedly resigning, reportedly out. I will catch up with that story during the break and be able to talk about the absolute latest there when I come back. But first I want to tell you about our friends at Super Sure. I went down to hang out with Howard Mackler. He's the founder of Super Sure. And you may even see the Super Shore logo in the UFC fights rings, the one that's going to be at the White House soon. Super Shore's logo is on that mat if you watch those events. And Howard has built an awesome, incredible, fantastic, brand new company. He loves this show. And he said, hey, you guys have a lot of business owners in your show and I bet they're frustrated over how confusing insurance can be. I said, your preacher, the choir here, so many people out there Those of you who run small businesses, 25 or so employees, you got healthcare, you got your business insurance, you got all these different insurance policies. You don't know what the heck they cover. You don't even know how they overlap. It's actually super confusing. You're busy, you're working 80, 100 hours a week trying to run your business to make sure it's effective. And then you're worried about what the insurance is, what's covered, what isn't. That is exactly what super sure is designed to fix. They have one broker for all your business insurance. They will figure out exactly what you need. They have a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. They have easy to understand contracts. That fine print fax tool that will actually tell you what the heck does this actually say? Because lawyers write these policies so confusing. You can go online. You got nothing to cost at all. Go online to super sure.com clay right now. You get a full report on all your current policies. No obligations. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured, somewhere in between. Just go to super sure.com clay one powerful platform, all your policies in one place. That's Super Sure.com Clay paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Get covered at Super Sure.com Clay looking for normal in a world of crazy. Clay and Buck have your back. Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Buck is out. He'll be back with me on Tuesday after Memorial Day. We head down now to the great state of Texas. Talk with Chip Roy who's running for Attorney General in Texas. Runoff is Tuesday and we'll get into the race here in a second. Chip. But first, you are a huge history guy and I love a lot of the years around the Battle of San Jacinto and around the Alamo, you will share different historical moments from that era. What's your favorite part of American history to read about, to study and are you with me? That a really well done show about the Lewis and Clark expedition would utterly dominate and that we need more American history infused bravery, courage, stories from the past to help in the pop culture space.
Chip Roy
Yeah, I mean look, I love this. I mean look, let's just do an entire show on this topic. It's great to be on and I'm a huge fan of American history and history generally. And obviously you brought up the Texas history. Great connection between your great state of Tennessee and your heroes that came to Texas and helped us in our victory at San Jacinta after obviously the battle of the Alamo. But look, that's a tough question, but I would probably say my two parts. I mean, yes, 100% on Lewis and Clark. I mean, look, I'm a guy who went to the University of Virginia, Thomas Jefferson. You go to Monticello, there's Lewis and Clark stuff all over the foyer there in the front part of Monticello. I'm a big fan of the revolutionary period that's obviously been well documented over the years in the history of the revolution. I still don't think people have felt enough of the extraordinary results of the battles that George Washington was able to fight and to win and what they were able to overcome, obviously, crossing the Delaware. But everything and how thin it was, how hard it was. I think there could still be more on that. And then, look, I mean, it is hard for me ever to. I mean, Band of Brothers did justice for those men that sat there in Bastogne, but I don't know that you can ever do it full justice. I mean, those are the moments of history where I get, you know, you get welled up with pride, particularly as we head into Memorial Day weekend. You know, the men and women increasingly that have, you know, bore that burden and sat in those foxholes in the freezing cold or the freezing weather in crossing the Delaware, and then, you know, everything in our revolution at Valley Forge and everything else, it's just an extraordinary. Those are the extraordinary moments that I love in American history. But. But I do. I mean, I agree with you. Lewis and Clark. Imagine you and I just like, all right, let's suit up. You know, I mean, it's like Travis and Roy. Let's rock and roll and start heading west. I mean, think about it, right? That's what's crazy. My great, great grandfather was a Texas Ranger in Comanche country, in the Hill country, you know, back. You didn't go down to Walmart and get a box fan and a bottle of water. Right? You had to figure out how to survive. And that's what built our country.
Clay Travis
I saw a picture you posted. I didn't even know about this. You had cancer. You battled when you had two young kids. I'm sure you saw the news, if you haven't already, that Tulsi Gabbard has just posted that she's resigning. Her husband has an extremely rare form of bone cancer. She says she's going to be helping him recover. What was that battle like for you and how did it create or drive you to the person that you are today?
Chip Roy
Well, I appreciate that question. Obviously, my prayers go out to Tulsi. She's become a very good friend and I think so highly of her and I just, you know, prayers for her husband and for her. You know, she's got a home in Austin, her sister lives there. And so we've got to know each other very well. Yeah, going through cancer, that's a, that's a game changer. You know, I was, I talk about it on the campaign trail. God gave me some bonus time. But when I at the time had a three month old daughter, that picture you're referencing, you know, it just popped up on my phone and I posted it. My little daughter, who was then a few months old, was just sprawled out, passed out and I was sitting there in my very thin, bald head chemo state and you know, my son was just not quite two years old. And at that point, your thoughts are very clear. I want to see them graduate high school. I want to walk my daughter down the aisle. You get, you get real quick to the things that matter. And that's what's driven me in politics. It's been very clarifying. I just don't care what people tweet at me. I don't care what other politicians say about me or think about me. And I think that, you know, look, you can get into trouble if you get arrogant, you know, in that way. And I try not to be, but I think it does give you a certain set of confidence that you put the full body of armor on that God gives you and you just walk out into the fight and you say, put me where you want me to be, Lord. And you don't worry about it because you realize you people say, chip, you're going to go be Attorney general, You just want to be the title. Look, I don't care about titles. I don't care what you put on a tombstone I'll never see. I don't care what the history books have in it that I'll never read. I care that my kids can live in a free country and that they can know Jesus Christ and that they can proclaim the gospel and that we can live in the continue to live in the greatest country in the history of the world. That's what motivates me. And I know a lot of people can say those things. But when you stare down the double barrel of cancer, you get through it. You start to realize that all of this noise in politics doesn't matter.
Clay Travis
Having said all that, Tuesday is the runoff election. You are running for attorney General. And I thought that was very well said for People out there in Texas and we have a huge audience listening to us right now in Texas. What should they know about the race and what should they know about their choices?
Chip Roy
Well, I appreciate the question. I'm running against a state senator who I've known a long time. I don't wish him any ill will, but he's been running a very tough race. He inherited a lot of money and he's been spending that money. Not a well kept secret that he wants to be governor and Attorney General is a nice stepping stone to be governor. I don't know what the Lord has in my future, but I know I want to be the Attorney General for the state of Texas. I want to be a lawyer for the people of Texas. At a time when I think we, we've not had the things we're facing today since 1836, since you mentioned the Alamo and San Jacinta, the stuff that's happening with respect to Islam marching through Texas, the criminals on our streets, the George Soros funded Marxist Das and judges, the borders that we have to manage. God bless President Trump and Tom Homan and Secretary Mullen. We've stopped the flow, but that's not always going to be the case. We have illegals in our state, the burden on us, data centers, water grid, all these things. It's a big state, 31 million people. And you've got to have somebody who's been in a courtroom, been a lawyer, been a prosecutor, been the person, Attorney General, not someone who needs on the job training. I've been in court, I've been there. I've been a federal prosecutor and I've run that agency. My opponent never has. He's been managing his family oil and gas royalties. You know what, God bless him, I don't wish him ill for that. But it doesn't prepare you to be the Attorney General. All of those issues I mentioned, they're front and center. And you got to have somebody able to do it on day one. Ken Paxton has been taking the fight to corporate America, taking the fight to the federal government, defending Texans. I'll do the same thing and I'll do it with the full backing of so many friends from across the state of Texas, like Ted Cruz, who is the former Solicitor General, one of the most brilliant legal minds that we have in the nation. So many great groups and freedom fighters that are backing me and supporting me. But look, there's a lot of people in the Austin swamp who don't want someone like me who call out balls and strikes. And the Austin Swamp is every bit as big as the D.C. swamp. And now I know you know that because I know you've probably seen the same thing in Tennessee, you know, state government. You can have a whole lot of Swamp actors there. And that's what I'm facing. Some folks there that are saying, wait a minute, we don't want this guy who comes in and calls balls and strikes and tells the truth. And I'm going to do that. And that's why the reaction has been great. We're trending well in the polls. Some great people with God's blessed resources through oil and gas and other have stepped to the plate to help me match dollar for dollar our spending. So we're trending in the right direction. I can tell you the Austin Swamp is nervous. And look, I want to win this election. I want to win Tuesday, Become the Ag. And then I want to take a break and go watch college baseball next weekend. Go watch. Watch the Longhorns, the Aggies, Virginia Cavaliers. You know, we've got a lot of good SEC and ACC guys in the. In the baseball tournament, as we always do. They pretty much dominate the tournament.
Clay Travis
I think college baseball is the most underrated sport in America in terms of how much fun it is. And a lot of people still haven't figured it out. I got to go to Omaha and watch my Tennessee Volunteers win the title a couple of years ago. We got a great audience. KFAB in Omaha. One of the coolest experiences out there. College World Series on the bucket list in Omaha for a lot of you. So cool.
Chip Roy
100% the most underrated sport in America. It's not even close. I took my son in 14 and 15 when Virginia was in the finals against Vanderbilt. Now, by the way, as a Tennessee guy, you know, you know, the animosity there. And the Whistler, right? The guy.
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the Vandy Whistler.
Chip Roy
Yeah. And that guy was there for the two times I took Charlie. My son was only five, six years old. Virginia lost the first one. We beat Vanderbilt in the second one. And then I thought we were going to play Texas. As you know, I went there for law school. My wife's an Aggie. And of course, A and M lost a tough one to Tennessee, right?
Clay Travis
Yeah. A couple of years ago. Yeah. In the final.
George Norrie
Yeah.
Chip Roy
So it was brutal. And my son loves A and M baseball. But look, college baseball, you're right, it's underrated. It's so fun. I hope to get the regionals next week, but I'm just asking everybody to get out and vote last day. Early voting is today throughout Texas Tuesday. Just don't believe all the lies. I'm not going to get into it refuting them. A lot of things being said. It's politics, I get it. But it's a bunch of lies. The people who know me, they know I've been defending the president. I stand alongside the president, delivered on the big beautiful bill, delivered. I'm the lead author of the Save America Act, a proven lawyer. So get out there and support Chip Roy for attorney general so we can defend the state of Texas. And really appreciate it, brother.
Clay Travis
Yeah. Last question for you. A lot of attention on the Senate race, the runoff. Do you have any doubt whether it's Ken Paxton or John Cornyn that James Talarico is going to lose?
Chip Roy
Correct. And first of all, it sure looks like it's probably going to be Ken Paxton. I mean, certainly after the president's endorsement. I mean, we'll see the people speak on Tuesday, but that seems likely. And now we will get out and win the race. Now, I will tell you, Democrats are motivated. They're going to spend a lot of money and this, you know, you remember our mutual friend ted Cruz in 2018 battling Beto O'.
George Norrie
Rourke.
Chip Roy
He only won by two point, I think 4 or 5%. And that was the first time I ran for Congress and I got the nomination in a tough battle. I won a runoff for Congress and then I had to run in the general in Austin and I won that race with 2.7% victory. So I know what it takes to run a tough race in the general. We're going to have to run that kind of a race this year. It's another reason to support me, by the way, is I've been there and I've done it. I think we can win all these races, but we're going to have to show up. The governor is right to be sounding the alarm. Texans are going to have to step up to make sure we win this fall.
Clay Travis
No doubt, Chip Roy, they'll run off Tuesday. Texans get out and vote. Appreciate the time, sir.
Chip Roy
Hey, God bless you.
George Norrie
Talk soon.
Chip Roy
Take care.
Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome in hour number three, Friday edition, Clay and Buck. Buck is out. We'll be back Tuesday with me as we are rolling into the Memorial Day holiday. Thanks to everybody out there whose family has made the ultimate sacrifice. So many people will get into that a bit more and we've been talking about history a ton. One bit of news. Tulsi Gabbard has resigned as Director of National Intelligence. That happened in the last hour, citing her husband having been diagnosed with an extreme, extremely rare form of Bone cancer and her need to work to get him healthy. She is elevated. The President has elevated Aaron Lucas and that is where we are Also. Early this morning, a second batch of UFO video of UFO files was introduced released. This is batch two. And my oldest son said, dad, you should be talking about this UFO release on the radio show. And I said to producer Ali, who is an awesome person that we can get on to fulfill my oldest son's desire here. I'm actually super excited about this. And we are joined now by George Norrie, who is listened to, I would imagine by many of you. He is the host of coast to Coast Amazing, the most listened to overnight radio talk show in America. He is also a part of the premier network and the show primarily focuses on the paranormal, UFOs, conspiracy theories, unexplained phenomena. Nori, who is with us now, George, we appreciate the time. You also serve nine years as an officer in the United States Naval Reserve, earning the Navy Achievement Award. Before we get into UFOs, are you a history guy? You served in the Navy? Are there parts of American history that you find the most interesting? As we come up on Memorial Day
George Norrie
on Monday, Everything, Clay, it's a great country. I'm glad I'm here. I'm proud to serve. I did nine years, as you just mentioned, as a naval officer originally during the Vietnam War. My lottery number was 20. I thought I was going. I went to get my physical and they said, you've got a little heart murmur. We can't take you. So for years I regretted not being able to go into the military. And one day a guy called me up and said, ronald Reagan would like to give you a direct commission to the Navy. I was a news director at a TV station in St. Louis. And I went, what? And he said, yeah, he'd like to give you a direct commission. Would you take it? And I said, in a heartbeat, but I don't know if I'm going to pass the test. And they said, we'll check you out. And the heart murmur went away. And there I went.
Clay Travis
That's an awesome story. Well, thank you for your service. You talk about all sorts of fascinating topics late at night. People across the country listen. You have one of the biggest radio audiences alongside of this one anywhere. What is your audience's reaction so far to the UFO files, so called that have been released so far, the second batch of them coming out early this morning. What has your audience thought of this? What do you think about it?
George Norrie
Our audience, primarily Clay, has gone through the position of I told you so. We knew it. And I just think it was great for President Trump to want to get these released. And as you mentioned, another 300 popped out today. All kinds of stories from all over the place. I think what this will do will corroborate what we've been talking about for years on coast to coast and what other people have been talking about. And that is, we are not alone in the universe. We're being visited. We have been visited. We might have been even seeded by these entities.
Chip Roy
They may be our gods.
George Norrie
But it's fascinating stuff, and it keeps me busy.
Clay Travis
Okay, I love this. I believe that we have been visited by aliens. Buck, who is not with me today, is more skeptical. When did you decide that you believe we have been visited by aliens? And where do you think these alien life forms are coming? Do you have any sort of larger context or belief system?
George Norrie
When I was a youngster, my mother brought me home a book called We Are Not Alone by Walter Sullivan, who at the time was the New York Times science writer that talked about the theory that we were not alone in the universe. And then a few months later, look magazine came out with a story of Barney and Betty Hill, the abduction case out of New Hampshire. I was fascinated by that story. It was an incredible story. One of my first jobs as a radio reporter When I was 21 years old in Detroit, I interviewed their psychiatrist, Dr. Benjamin Simon, out of Boston, Massachusetts, and I asked him a specific question. I said, Dr. Simon, were Varney and Betty Hill lying to you? What do you think? And he said, I don't know what happened to them. But under hypnosis, they both told the same story. They believe whatever happened to them happened. They're not lying. It's just a bizarre story, and I'll never forget it. From that point on, Clay, I decided I wanted to keep pushing my broadcast career to unravel these stories, and here I am today.
Clay Travis
What do you think the craziest opinion that you have that you really believe is? You know, I always like to say people like, tell me a conspiracy theory that you think is real. What do you think you truly believe that this audience would find to be the most outrageous or outlandish opinion that you have?
George Norrie
Well, the audience may think the abduction cases are strange, where people are being taken from all over the planet. We have hundreds of thousands of people missing from the Earth every year. They're just gone. People can't find out where they are.
Chip Roy
Google it.
George Norrie
You'll find that out. Something's happening to these people. I think that's probably one of the strangest stories going on right now. Where are these people going? They're disappearing in our parks, in our public systems. Poof, they're just gone. That's probably one of the biggest mysteries of all time.
Clay Travis
So you think aliens potentially are taking thousands of people a year and that some of these so called lost people, we just don't know what happened to them. You think that they're vanished and that's where they're going?
George Norrie
Absolutely. Not all of them, but some of them is a very strange universe. These aliens, these ETS, are not all benevolent by any means. Dr. David Jacobs, the ufologist, believes that it's a very nefarious situation and it. He could be right. Remember that the Twilight Zone move episode To Serve Man.
Clay Travis
Why do you think here's something I. I think about a lot and I think about a lot of weird things a lot of the time. So you prob definitely do based on what you do for a living. One of the things I would say is if humans have been visited by aliens, which actually do think that they have, wouldn't there be some record of those alien life forms in fossils? In other words, it doesn't seem likely to me that they've only visited in the 21st century. Right. That they would have showed up in the 1500s, in the 1200s, long ago. What do you think about the lack of sort of fossil record that we have? We never do a dig in Egypt and suddenly uncover for instance, a alien life form that has been entombed alongside of a current human life form.
George Norrie
Clay, we haven't gotten the real great reports yet from the government. They must be holding back on some stuff for some reason. But I am convinced we have had alien bodies picked up. That government has them. There's an old story that former President Richard Nixon took comedian Jackie Gleason, who was obsessed with ETs, picked him up one day in a car and said, we're going to Homestead Air Force Base in Florida. I want to show you something. And he went, okay. The President driving by himself, Nixon comes up to the gate at Homestead Air Force Base. The officer at the gate was in shock, obviously let the President in and apparently, according to Jackie Gleason's wife, Richard Nixon took Jackie Gleason into a room where they had an alien in a glass jar and it shook up Jackie Gleason so much. He was never the same after that. Lots of strange things are going on. We just don't know about them yet.
Clay Travis
I do buy that one of the Biggest challenges with the UFO world is that if an alien life form is capable of visiting here, their technology is so much more expansive and advanced than ours that it's almost impossible for us to even understand. Back in the day, in the days of exploration, you would have explorers show up and they couldn't communicate with the people that they had discovered. The new parts of the world that they had that they were exploring because there was no common language. Isn't there likely to be a major issue just from technological sophistication? If you think about back in the days of things that we know did occur frontier wise, you would show up. Someone had never seen a ship before. They thought that they were seeing gods. When they saw people in armor, for instance, things that they couldn't imagine, steel guns, all of these things. Isn't it likely that we are so far behind that mere communication is a struggle?
George Norrie
Absolutely. They have learned, they being the ets, how to travel through space. We haven't learned that yet. You know, if they conventionally traveled the way we do, it would take thousands and thousands and thousands of years to get here. They have learned somehow to bend space and time where it's an instant when whenever they appear. And their technology is way ahead of ours, probably by millions of years, but we'll get there one day, God willing.
Clay Travis
My son says, anybody ever talk and you do this show? We're talking to George Norrie, super popular show on late nights all over the country. My son says, do you think it's possible that these are just time travelers? That somewhere long into the future we will find the ability to bend space and time such that we will be able to go back in time? And what we're actually seeing when we see UFOs is potentially people who are long into the future almost taking vacations to go back and say, hey, I want to see America in the 1990s. I want to. Do you buy into that at all? Is there any discussion surrounding that on programs such as yours?
George Norrie
We've talked about it, Clay. You can't rule it out by any means. I tend to believe these are coming from other planetary systems within our universe. But there's still that distinct possibility that they could be time travelers. There's an old picture from the 1800s of a guy walking down the street. 1800s, mind you, holding a cell phone in his hand, talking to somebody. Who was the guy? Then there was another story that a time traveler popped up on the streets of New York and got hit by a cab. And he was wearing 1800 year garb unbelievable, strange things have happened. It's very possible.
Clay Travis
Where would you want to go back in time? If time traveling became a possibility, what era of history would you find most compelling?
George Norrie
I've talked about this on the show before. I would love to go back to the era of Jesus to witness him and what he was doing to me. That would be one of the most fantastic visitations you could ever imagine.
Clay Travis
It's interesting you say Jesus, because some people would say aliens. They get nervous about the interplay between aliens, religion, what it would potentially do to religion if we discovered that. That humans were not alone. What do you think the religious response would be?
George Norrie
Well, the Catholic Church has already said that your belief in extraterrestrials does not negate your belief in God. And I believe that there's a higher power out there. There's a divine intelligence. And the belief in extraterrestrials merely tells you that this universe is packed with light. Life. Packed with life.
Clay Travis
I imagine that you are, and I love this. And we're talking to George. Nori. You are open to the idea to believe many different things, right? If you look at at America in the wake of COVID there's a lot of people listening to us right now. And I would even potentially put myself in this category where you're way more open to the idea of conspiracy, because so much of what we were told about COVID I believe was a lie, and we have slowly unraveled many of those different lies. You've been doing this for a while. How would you assess the conspiratorial mindset of America today compared to when you began this show? And can you feel that difference in your audience and the conversations that you guys have?
George Norrie
One of the reasons we're so successful on our radio show, Clay, is we don't shut people down. They have an opportunity to talk. The only thing that gets them booted is if they use profanity, which, of course, we don't accept. And that doesn't happen a lot. And we have delay buttons and everything else for that. But by and large, I am convinced that there's something else out there that we haven't even discovered yet. I can't get a scientist on the air to talk about the Big Bang and how the universe started. They don't know. Nobody knows. And it's one of the greatest wonders of the world. But the bottom line is there's something out there, and it doesn't negate our belief in a God. It will enhance it when the day comes.
Clay Travis
Do you think in your lifetime that there will be incontrovertible that is beyond a shadow of a doubt. Proof of alien life forms and the fact that they have visited the United States. You may think that there's proof already, but I mean, such that even skeptics would have to acknowledge it to be true.
George Norrie
I would hope so. I'm not sure. I just don't know. The documents that have been released over the last month or so, including some today, really don't give us the information we need yet. There's a story of we've channeled off 13 fighter jets to chase a star shaped UFO. Apollo astronauts have seen strange things. I knew Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 astronaut. He's not with us anymore. He told me. George, I've been told by people in government that we are being visited by extraterrestrials. I never saw anything on the moon when I was there, but I'm told we're being visited. When you hear stories like that, you've got to believe it. There's something going on in this universe.
Clay Travis
George, for people who enjoy this conversation but might not have heard your program before, how would they find it?
George Norrie
You can go to our website, coast to coastam.com and under stations, click the button. And wherever you live, there's a station out there somewhere for you.
Clay Travis
George, we appreciate the time. Thank you for your service. Hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend. And will you promise to come back on if we find out aliens 100% are real?
George Norrie
Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I'll bring an alien with me.
Clay Travis
Hey, the ratings on that would be pretty high, I think. George. Norrie, this is awesome. I appreciate the time. Again, thank you for your service. Have a good Memorial Day weekend, you and your family.
George Norrie
Thank you, Clay. You too.
Clay Travis
When you hear about Israel in the news, easy to think what's happening in that country and region as another conflict far away. It's not the full picture by any stretch. I've been to Israel. I have seen the bomb shelters, I've seen the hospitals. I have seen the battlegrounds. I've seen the people who have lost their lives simply for being Jewish in Israel. And I know all the incredible work that the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews takes part in. And I would like for you to join me and just send a few heartfelt words. This is more than support, this is just saying, hey, I'm thinking about you. I'm standing with you in a time of difficulty. Go to prayifcj.org to share your thoughts, prayers and good wishes. Today on this Memorial Day weekend with so many people with their lives on the line in Israel today. That's prayifcj.org One more time pray ifcj.org
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Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Clay Travis (Buck Sexton out, returning Tuesday)
Notable Guests: Chip Roy (TX Attorney General candidate), George Noory (Coast to Coast AM host)
Theme: Exploring America’s historical memory, patriotism, national identity, and UFOs, with a Memorial Day lens
This Friday, pre-Memorial Day edition of the Clay and Buck Show (with Buck out) centers on the importance of American history and patriotism, contemporary challenges to national unity, remembrance of sacrifice, and lively conversations about current events. The show moves through reflections inspired by classic Americana, the decline of civic pride, and segues into both timely and offbeat topics including UFO disclosures and major political news.
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Chip Roy (Attorney General candidate):
Quick Political Updates:
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Second hour, top story: Early morning release of a second batch of government UFO files.
On the Loss of National Memory & Pride:
"If we can't reach consensus that America is good and the greatest force for good in the history of the world, then much of what we're trying to accomplish is already lost." (Clay Travis, 13:28)
On Youth and Toughness:
"People have gotten through way tougher things than what you are dealing with right now. You are too. You're stronger than you think you are." (Clay Travis, 24:28)
On Mixing Pop Culture and History:
"Mixing history and pop culture...the timing being right…" (Listener Dave, c. 32:00)
"I don't think that's remotely crazy. There are millions of you listening right now. I think you guys all just saying, hey, this new show is coming out...this audience could make that show successful." (Clay Travis, 35:26)
On Aliens and Missing Persons:
"We have hundreds of thousands of people missing from the Earth every year. They're just gone...that's probably one of the biggest mysteries of all time." (George Noory, 61:06)
On American Bravery:
"My great, great grandfather was a Texas Ranger in Comanche country, in the Hill country...you had to figure out how to survive. And that's what built our country." (Chip Roy, 41:43)
This episode is a deep-dive into why history, memory, and national pride matter—layered with contemporary political urgency, rich storytelling, personal vulnerability, and some heady conversations with experts and callers. If you want insight into how American conservatives are reading the moment—through the lens of both tradition and today’s weirdest news—this is a can’t-miss episode.