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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Joe Getty
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J.R. Martinez
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Joe Getty
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
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Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Buck Sexton
We have a win.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Neyfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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J.R. Martinez
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Neyfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome everybody, to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. I am back at the mic today. Clay on vacation with his family in Florida, as you know. So I was pleased that my recovery was at least fast enough that I didn't interfere with his vacation. I meant to be on the show yesterday. Let me just tell you where we're going. And then I'll give you a little update on just what happened there. You'll probably appreciate your day more when you hear about how my days have been lately. We have the big beautiful bill. It's definitely big, but is it beautiful? Some people have some questions about it. And I mean people that are big Trump supporters and that share a lot of the values that we talk about on this program. So that's something that we're going to be diving into a little bit more. Elon Musk, not thrilled with the big beat of now. Keep in mind, it's not finished. This is all part of the discussion. Right? We need to have this discussion. And in fact, I think at this era of Trump, people who want the best for the country through the Trump agenda need to be willing and need to feel like it's okay to speak out and be a coach for our side. Right. You're not trying to be a critic. You're not tearing anything down, but you're saying, look, I think this might be a slightly improved or slightly better version, but I'll bring you all of that. Stephen Miller was laying down some facts on the bill, too. He says the criticism of it isn't, isn't fair. I'll give you the specifics of that. We shall discuss. I know yesterday there's a lot of talk on the show so I could listen well, to the degree I could do anything, but I was listening when I could, a lot of talk about the COVID vaccines. We've got some more on that. And the overall lying of the Democrats now, which stretches back for years, they weren't just wrong on things, they misled you. Trump v. Harvard, I think is also really interesting. And I want to make the case for why I think this is, this is important. Also, Biden's cover up of the COVID up of Biden's decline, it just keeps getting, I don't know. On the one hand it's outrageous. On the other hand, this is exactly what we thought all along. We did whole shows here where we talked about Obama's third term, the shadow presidency of advisors. Now, maybe the only detail that's new or interesting is perhaps some of these Biden advisers who weren't necessarily calling the shots under Obama, were actually enjoying the fact that they got to call shots under Biden and therefore, or in place of Biden and therefore they didn't even want perhaps the steadier hands in the Democrat Party, the more cunning minds involved, which would explain a lot of Biden policy. So we'll get into all that. Before we dive into that though, first I'll just tell you. Yeah, I was, I was over the Memorial Day weekend and I did do some reflection on this. I know you all did too, about what that weekend is for, why we take the time. Yes, it is about first and foremost the sacrifices made by those who served. And it is an opportunity to be with family, to be with friends, but also to think about that. And I was though, I was just having a particularly. And I tell you this because I want you to perhaps just enjoy your day a little bit more. I was having a pretty, just, just a lovely weekend with my family and I was walking with my dog Ginger, and I thought to myself, you know, I love my wife, I love my new beautiful baby, love this job. You know, I'm a great family. I was feeling really blessed and I was taking a moment to think about that and also thinking about those who gave so much. But as I was walking down the street and feeling like things were going really well, I don't know how to say this other than out of nowhere I had to sprint. I mean full on sprint. I had the dog with me. I had to sprint home and rush to the bathroom where I spent basically the next 48 hours. At one point I actually had a pillow on the floor and, and brought a little blanket because I was like, you know what? I'm not even going to pretend like I'm going to leave this little space. You know, I talked to my docs, they think it's probably some kind of like a norovirus or an astro virus or one of these things. But I'll just tell you, enjoy if you're healthy, you got a great family, you're having a good day, enjoy it. Because nothing will make you appreciate your day to day life, I think faster than to be hit with a really nasty stomach flu out of nowhere, out of nowhere. I hadn't even eaten that day. Think I'd even eaten. I just was walking the dog. I like woken up. Oh man, it was absolutely brutal. I have so much sympathy for anybody out there who as had, has had something similar or there are other things I'm telling you I can handle, you know, orthopedic injuries. I've hurt my, you know, I hurt my knee last year. Yeah, I mean you got to take painkillers. You know, any injury, any sickness isn't fun. But when you get rocked by a stomach bug, you are just, I don't know, you're just in another world. Like you can't function and so I'm a good bit better now. I'm not drinking Crockett today because. Which is sad for me because I need to avoid the caffeine. But I've got my Crockett Over Mountain mug and I'm half Gatorade, half water. I know everyone always says Pedialyte. I personally, I don't know. I don't, I don't. I just, I like half Gatorade, half water. Cuts the sugar a little bit. I actually use sugar free Gatorade, so that's not even really an issue. Anyway, I'm back. I'm in pretty. I'm pretty steady feet, I think, for the most part. And I am once. I am so grateful to be back on the show talking to all them of. Of you. Honestly, I think if somebody could, somebody could have given me an absolutely outrageous ask yesterday morning to say, if you write a check for the following, I'll make you feel better. And you could do radio today. I think I would have given them my life savings. I was so miserable. It was so hard, man. It was rough. Anyway, so enjoy your day. If you are healthy, you know, if you're stuck in traffic, if you've got, you know, I don't know, you and your wife or you and your husband had a little bit of a squabble, or one of your kids is talking back or someone's being annoying at work. Yeah, those are all frustrating things. But you, my friend, are most likely not doubled over next to the toilet for 48 hours. And that is like the worst thing. It was really, man, it was, it was rough. So I'm glad to be back. And I, I really, I'm almost giddy how much I appreciate being able to talk to all of you. At least it's not an upper respiratory. So my voice is pretty okay. So I just wanted to tell you that was. Yeah, take those moments of appreciation whenever you can. I forget who, who's accredited with this, but it's so true. And I really was feeling this last couple of days. The healthy person has a thousand wants. The sick person has one. And when you are in rough shape, and I know people say, oh, but you know, you knew you're gonna get better. Yeah, I'm not. This wasn't like. This wasn't stage four cancer. I understand. I'm just saying in the moment when you are really miserable in a lot of. That's all you, all you can think about. So if you are, if you are healthy today, I'm just telling you, just take a moment to be like, wow. And I don't even mean perfect health, right? Not like your knee hurts or something, whatever. I mean, if you are able to function normally, it is a blessed day and it is a good day. And that's just, that's what I want to share with you. All right, let's get into the, the Biden decline issue. First of all, Caroline Levitt over at the White House has raised, you know, this story keeps on going, and there's a reason for it. I'll say this before I get to Caroline's side statement here. The reason we're going through this now is not, this is not for nothing. It is a reshuffling of the Democrat power structure before your very eyes. Who's the leader? What are the primary media sources? What kind of credibility outside of the delusional faithful do those media sources actually have? Do people, you know, there's a lot of people who, even if they disagree with, say, the New York Times or even if they don't really agree with what they view as the more apparent editorial bent of, say, cnn, they trust them as basic sources of news. I know some of you are going to laugh at that, but there are people out there who, well, what is the case now when you miss the biggest story, certainly of the post Covid era and in presidential politics? I don't think there's been a bigger presidential scandal than this. I don't know. You'd have to go back way deep in history. And people who say, oh, but what about Woodrow Wilson? Or, oh, what about fdr? Not even close. Not even close to this level because there it was actually hidden. That's, that's the huge difference. Right. It's one thing when you can tell everybody, oh, the president's fine, and they have no way of knowing with this. The dementia was hiding in plain sight because the media just kept on lying to you. It was, I know the term gaslighting is kind of overused, but it really was the biggest gaslighting experience I can think of in this, in this country. I don't know. I've never thought of anything. I can't think of anything that was anywhere near this. And then we have to ask some questions like, well, what about the legality of what was done? It's not okay to have a president who can't function and then have people around him making decisions that are presidential prerogative. That's not okay. It's not like, oh, yeah, whoopsie, no, there needs to be accountability for this. And this is what Caroline levitt this is cut 11 was talking about at the White House. Play it.
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Tommy Tuberville
He's demanding answers. And one of the things he is going to continue to push for answers on is who the heck was running the country over the past four years. And you just talked about it in your monologue. And I'm glad to hear it, because this is truly the greatest political scandal our country has ever seen. We had unelected radical left White House staffers who nobody knew their names running the most powerful country in the history of the world. And the Democrat Party was in a complete alliance to cover it up. And the mainstream media was right along with them. They were asking Joe Biden what his favorite ice cream was, rather than asking him whether or not he was suited to run the country. And so we need answers on what took place over the past four years.
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Clay Travis
We do. We need those answers, and we can get them because the people in charge now have the ability to, if they want, put people under oath before Congress. This should be something that we get to the bottom of. This is not fighting the last war, fighting the last election. This is what did these people do and how did they get away with it to the degree that they did? Part of the challenge here, I think, is that for all of us who saw this for what it was, there's a bit of a. Yeah, we already know with all of this. You know, I know we talked about it. Clay and I talked about this every day for years, pretty much. We knew the decline was there. We knew that the Biden advisors, we can go back and pull. I don't want to bore you endless soundbites from a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, where I'm saying Biden or whoever's running the country on his behalf, Biden or his advisers. In fact, my argument for why they would push Biden as far as they did in the election, then of course, he was supposed to be their reelection candidate. My argument for it all along was that it really wasn't Biden making the decisions. It was the apparatus term that I use for this pretty frequently. So I went into the 2024 election with a baseline assumption that Biden has severe cognitive decline. It is so obvious that he has people around him who are the ones pushing all the policies, doing all the actual decision making for things that affect the country. And then after years of talking about this, they lose this election. And they lose in part because of the disastrous debate and then putting Kamala forward. And then they turn around, they say to us, wow, look what we discovered. Look what you discovered. I, I'll be honest with you, I'm always honest with you, but I'll, I'll, I'll just say it. A lot of the people that were involved in this, on the journalism, so called journalism side, they shouldn't work in this industry. They should go do something else. It is in fact okay for somebody who has been working in propaganda at CNN or to go find something else that is more suitable to their skill set. Because it's definitely not finding facts and speaking truth to power. I mean, if you can't get fired for this, or rather if you can continue on and have a media career where your whole thing is not, you know, you're not like a stand up comedian or something. Your whole, your whole reason for existing, for getting up and doing what you do is because you're without fear or favor finding facts and providing them to the public. That is just a, that is a total lie. This has exposed that as an out and out lie. So on the media side of it, I know they just want to move forward, but this is part of why they're talking about it now. They want to be able to say, we've done with that, move on. We've done, we've dealt with that move on. That's what they want to be able to say. And they'll do it pretty quickly here. And that's why this book, which also doesn't name any names, I mean, in a meaningful way. This is what I've said all along. How can you have accountability when it's just anonymous sources telling the story that we all knew all along. This is why we're not having Tapper on the show. I don't need to hear it. I've seen enough to know exactly what he's going to say and I knew what the whole thing was going to be beforehand anyway. I think it's gross. I think it's wrong. I have no respect for this effort to suddenly show us what we already knew.
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Leon Neyfak
What?
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Clay Travis
You're just giving us more gossip around it. We already knew all of this. So now you're going and asking people and they can do a little petty score settling when it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, I'm sorry, it just, it doesn't fly with me. Doesn't fly at all. But who was the part of this that I think is going to be a bigger issue going forward? Who was calling the shots around the Biden White House? Interesting. From a senior Trump advisor and official. We'll come back to that here in a Second, because he has a name that I hadn't heard before and I'm interested to see if it's correct. Want to talk to you about owning gold for a second starting with this. Okay. Gold is a hedge against inflation and gold is a long term play. I've been an investor in gold for over 15 years now. I have held, I've personally bought and held physical gold. I was buying physical gold when I honestly had very little money. But I knew that it would maintain its value. I look back now 15 years ago maintain its value. It's increased dramatically in value as a long hold position. Gold has seen great appreciate appreciation and part of this is that central banks all over the world are still buying up large quantities of this. Yeah, Trump is doing great stuff with the economy. Trump's not going to be president forever. What's going to, what's the economy look like in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years? That's where I think gold becomes part of the strategic play for you. And when you're talking about things like a 401k or an IRA. Yeah, you want real security in an old 401k or IRA that maybe you're not actively managing. And gold makes a lot of sense. And that's where my friends at the Birch Gold Group comes in. One of the best ways to protect your savings and to take the long term view and to build wealth in this economy is with gold. And the Birch Gold Group can help you. Text my name Buck to 9898 98. Birchgold will send you a free info kit on gold. No obligation, just useful information. Text the name Buck to 989898 or go online to birchgold.com buck.
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J.R. Martinez
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
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Joe Getty
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
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Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong, Strong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Clay Travis
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Buck Sexton
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Neyfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Buck Sexton
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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J.R. Martinez
No.
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Leon Neyfak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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J.R. Martinez
Affair, and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask.
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Leon Neyfak
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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J.R. Martinez
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Neyfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
So as I sit here with all of you still in recovery from my stomach bug. I know that yesterday, to the degree I was able to follow the news or pay attention to anything, there was the announcement about the Trump administration trying to end all federal funding, the remaining federal funding to Harvard. And I know there are people, here's the way this, this argument seems to go out there with some people, and I see this particularly on, on, on X, formerly known as Twitter, where you'll have people say, but what about when they want to do this to a conservative college? And then I always want to say, are you paying attention? What is the conservative college that's getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government doesn't exist. So, you know, this is, it's so funny. There's this assumption, oh, but they'll do stuff to us too. No, no, no, They've already been doing this stuff. That's the point. It's a little bit like Trump's approach to China on trade. People go, no, you can't do anything to China. What if they start doing bad things to us on trade? In response, they're already doing bad stuff to us as much as they really can on trade. It's just a question of are we willing to do something back so that they stop or that there's at least some cost to this. That's the attitude, that's the mentality people should have, certainly on the right about what's going on with Harvard. And also understand this, like, why did Barack Obama go to Harvard Law School and was the editor of Harvard Law Review? Even though I don't think he ever wrote anything at Harvard Law Review, or if he did, it was like one thing. So they just, you know, he was a figurehead after going to Occidental College for undergrad for a while, and then he transferred to Columbia. Anyway, I remember the Obama bio pretty well. Why do you go to Harvard? Well, he went to Harvard because the whole point is you go there and you're supposed to be really smart and the elite and in charge, right? Well, Harvard had created over a long period of time. And I think Harvard used to be, I'm sure, a great place. But over, I would say, the last 40 years or so, in the affirmative action era and the era of the left wing ascendancy on campus that I know there's always been left wing stuff on campus. People say, what about the 60s protests? Well, it turned into everything became left. I mean, I haven't really spent any time on a college campus since I was an undergrad myself 20 years ago. But, you know, they were constantly comparing Bush to Hitler. That was a thing. People forget this now. They compare Trump to Hitler now. But they used to actually say because of Afghanistan and Iraq wars that Trump was Hitler. These people are nuts. But the left wing completely overran these campuses and there was really nothing left. And they enforced doctrine with the zeal of the Stasi in East Germany. I mean, they really make it so that if you say things that are unapproved, they just make your life really uncomfortable. They kick you off campus. So there's already. They're doing the bad stuff. Here is Trump, by the way, I'll continue on with this line of argument, but here is Trump. This is cut 23, talking about the Harvard fight. Play it. Look, Harvard has been a disaster. They've taken five plus, by the way, $5 billion plus 5 billion. Nobody knew that they were making this cut. If we didn't do this, nobody would have. We would have never found this out. Pam, they're taking $5 billion and I'd rather see that money go to trade schools. And by the way, they're totally anti Semitic at Harvard, as you know, and some other colleges too, in all fairness to them. And it's been exposed, very exposed. It's more specifically on the college campuses on that issue of the anti Semitism, as I've been saying all along. And I think this has now become something that we discuss and this show is somewhat known for putting out there. I'd never heard anyone else make the argument before I made it here on this program, talking with Clay on the air about how the, the American left views Israel, Palestine as a race conflict essentially. And that the, all the stuff about, oh, 1948 and 1967 and UN Resolution 242 and 338 and the Balfour Declaration, all these things that you can. No, no, no, it's white people oppressing brown people. That's what the campuses think. And that's why you have all these groups that know nothing and care nothing about the Middle east that are so very, you know, they get to be super sanctimonious, super self righteous. The virtue signaling can be off the charts and you have people talking about how much they care about Gaza. I would note I've seen some left, some left wing media types in the last few days bringing, you've seen this, bringing up Sudan. Where have you heard that talked about other than on this program? Right. Just saying we're ahead on a lot of this stuff. We were saying here that the left views the Israel, Palestine or you know, Hamas Israel thing as a race conflict, because that fits into the very neat boxes that they set up in their minds of how these, Even though that's, I mean, it's wrong on the facts, it's just, it's absurd. But that's how they view it and that's why they feel so morally superior, even when they know nothing about it. And they just inherently think non white means oppressed. That's just their view. That's what they've been. Because on campus that's what you're told. Non white, oppressed, doesn't matter. You could be one of the richest athletes in the world. You could be the President of the United States. Non white, oppressed. That is really, I think, the central ethos that holds the left together and the Democrat Party overall. That is the thing that, you know, collectivism, moral relativism, and, you know, and this whole notion of what is not what is non white or who, those who are non white are inherently oppressed. So that's, that's a big part of what you see going on on the Harvard campuses. That is a, all these college campuses is a major aspect of it. It. But then I also get back to this because people say, well, why, you know, what's Harvard supposed to do? Trump's gonna, Trump is not saying, you know, you better, you better start teaching things in that Shakespeare 101 class the way I want you to, or else this school, by our own Supreme Court's ruling, which looked directly at Harvard I might add, that's why Harvard is in the crosshairs. This school is engaged in racial discrimination. That is what is going on. It is clear as day. If Harvard said, as a matter of policy, we will no longer take anybody who is, you know, Hispanic. Let's just put that out there for a second. If Harvard just said, sorry, we'll take everybody except the Hispanics, or if we're going to take Hispanics, they have to have perfect SATs, perfect grades, and be in the like the 1 percentile to even consider getting in here of all of our applicants, not like nationally. And that's the way it's going to be. People would say, well, hold on a second, that's not right. Why have you created a specific entry requirement for people based on their ethnicity, their skin color? That's wrong. And they, they would be right. I, I think that it was this recognition back when I was in high school and I had a kind of unique experience because I was in a very academically rigorous scholarship high school where most of the students, you Know, I came from a, a comfortable background. I had a successful, you know, Wall street dad, but I was, you know, not, not some super rich kid or anything, but a lot of the kids there came from low income and, and sort of lower middle income households and a lot of them were white. And this was the thing. And, and when they would apply to schools and because everybody knew too, it was a very intense pressure cooker kind of a school academically. And everyone knew who was like the top of the class and who was, you know, who was going to be. It was 130 kids, I would say, in my class. And, you know, we knew who the top 10 kids were. And we, and if you were a top 10 kid and you were white or Asian, we had a lot of Filipinos, a lot of South Koreans because you had to be Catholic to go. So not a lot, no one really that I can remember from like mainland China, but we had a lot of Filipinos, obviously a big Catholic population. South Koreans as a robust Catholic population there too. And I just remember if you were white or one of the Asian kids, even if you were top 10 or top 20 in the whole class, which meant you were, you know, had to be a National Merit scholar, no question, you know, you would have been the top of any school anywhere in the country. I mean, I think Regis has like the, I don't know, I mean, it was the Stuyvesant kids always say they have higher average sats, but we were right there and Stuyvesant's like number three in the country or something. So some sty people are probably listening. Yeah, we beat you. Maybe you did. But if you were Asian, if you were Hispanic or black and you were the number like 50 kid, it was, which Ivy League school do you want to go to? And, and I remember looking at that and recognizing that phenomenon and saying, that's just not right. It's very straightforward, just not right. And people would say, oh, but what about the legacy of slavery? Okay, well, first of all, I still disagree that that means that today in, you know, the year 2025 there. But put that aside for a second. So why the Latino kids? Why are they, and this is explicitly by the numbers, Harvard does this. Harvard discriminates on the basis of race. People say, what's Harvard supposed to do? How's Harvard supposed to, you know, make the concessions necessary to get more federal funding? Stop being racist, Harvard, they won't do it. They won't do it. That's how much they. It is worth hundreds of millions of Dollars to the people who run Harvard to continue to tell some poor white kid from Appalachia who has, you know, is like the pride of his town and, you know, is the, you know, it's got like a 140 IQ and 1600 SAT and everything. Yeah, I don't know we have any space for you, but we do have room for people who have far lesser grades and far lesser boards who are a different skin color than you. The fact that we had to accept this as long as we did in this country, Keep in mind, it is unconstitutional now. It is unconstitutional to do this is not just. I've been making this argument pretty much my entire life, but Certainly for now, 15 years of doing media consistently. This is wrong. This is wrong. They can't win this argument. And then you get people playing all these games, too. It's like, oh, well, you know, my, my grandmother is from Polynesia, so I'm actually a. I'm applying to school as like a Pacific Islander. I know somebody who did that to get into Stanford. Just see. And she got in. Not an impressive student got in. Oh, I'm a quarter Pacific Islander. You know, by the way, I think her mom might have even been from, like, Hawaii or something. It's just the whole thing, it's a scam. It's a scam. It's absurd and we all know it. And by the way, this is true in the hiring process, too. It's racist. It's wrong. Supreme Court looked at this. Sorry. This is the system we have not allowed to do this anymore. Harvard still wants to do it. They refuse to change. So back to my initial premise of when someone's doing bad things to you, if you do something in response, you're not the cause of the problems. Harvard is unconstitutionally discriminating and also teaching all of his kids to hate America and also engaged in a lot of pandering to the anti Semitic, pro Hamas element on all these things. Why should the administration remember, the administration's not saying we're sending in the, you know, we're sending in the, you know, the Marines to shut down your campus. You're all, no, of course, First Amendment. But they're not entitled to hundreds of millions of dollars of funds from the government. This is the, this is what people. You know. This is like the same argument with npr. What is the argument? It's the government's money. The government should have never been giving this money, especially something like npr. And now it says, you know what? We're not going to give the money Anymore they don't have. So they have the discretion to give the money but not the discretion to stop. And yeah, I know there's already some judge who's like, you can't do this. Supreme Court's gonna have to step in once again. But Harvard could make this whole thing a lot easier on itself. But it is so important to them because they have built this whole edifice of self congratulation and smugness around DEI and around diversity is our strength and all this other stuff. And they've first of all engaged in discrimination to do this. But also so much of what has been excellent in these institutions has been, you know, just given up in favor of this left wing religious belief of dei and that's why they're so upset. And that's what's going on. I say keep this fight going, Keep this fight going. Trump is doing the right thing. These schools, you know, they give their. And I say, well, why did Obama go there? Because the whole point is you get to go to one of these places and you're inherently. Harvard gets to pick and choose who the elites are. Well, to anyone who knows anything, by the way, you should not be impressed. I mean, I see some of these, there's like a national security analyst who I see on CNN sometimes and I used to know when I was there who is like, teaches at Harvard in one of the schools. She's a dumbass. I mean, truly a dumbass. You're like, oh, Buck, can you and her sit down? You and her sit down. She's a professor at Harvard in like the Kennedy school or something. Can you sit down? And let's do, let's just do like an overall knowledge test for the world and national security. She gets smoked by the bucksters. Smoked. And I know this person teaches at Harvard. She's a Harvard professor. Yeah, give me a break. Protecting your house from the effects of torrential rain starts with the gutters. That's the first place water collects. 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Sometimes my wife is listening to the show, so I always have to remember that there's like a few million of you and then my wife too. So I have to be, you know, on, like, really good behavior. I want to talk about dogs because I grew up. I grew up. I was kind of a bulldog guy. I'm just gonna tell you the truth. I was a bulldog guy. I love English bulldog, French bulldog, any squash. You know, the squishy faced. Not. Not really so much into the chow chows. I'm sorry. I know some people love the chat. They can be a little. Little bit of biters. I love all dogs, though, as you know, beautiful dogs. I love all dogs. And I wasn't really a doodle guy. And my wife goes, no, no, no. You know, her family, they got. It's like a doodle sanctuary. They got doodles. Oodles of doodles in my. For my in laws, I got doodles everywhere. And so I said, all right, fine. So, honey, you know, happy wife, happy life. You know, we've been married a year. You want. Let. Let's get. Let's get exactly the dog you want. I love that silly little fluffy dog so much. I don't know what to tell you.
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J.R. Martinez
All right.
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Clay Travis
She's great. Australian labradoodle. And when I was sick, she would come. She never does this. She would come and she would lie in the doorway of the. Of the guest bedroom that we have, which is going to eventually be the baby's room. But I would lie in the door, she would lie in the doorway. Just kind of a little vigil, just keeping me company. And, yeah, it's just amazing. I. And people say, oh, do you really think dogs know when you're sick? Yeah, they absolutely know. Dogs know a lot more about what's going on with us just because they can't communicate in. In English or in any language for that matter. Down here in Miami, it might be Spanish. Whatever. Doesn't matter in whatever language that they would be communicating with us. They have. They have incredible. Not just, I think, kind of intuition about their owners because spent so much time and are so focused on you, they can. Their sense of smell is. It is truly superhuman in the sense that it is thousands of times more powerful than what we have. Dogs have been trained to be able to smell cancer dogs. I think they're now training dogs to smell fentanyl at the border, which is also very useful. But anyway, this little dog, she was so great, and it was really helpful because also, dogs can't get norovirus. So I could be like, come here. You can be close. It's okay. Daddy's gonna be all right. He thinks if he could chug some of this Pedialyte. Anyway, dogs are great. And those of you who are dog owners, you know, and when you're really sick, man, and the dog crawls up on the bed and you have, like, everyone has to stay away from you, but the dog is there for you. And I know for some of you, it's your cats. Maybe for some of you, it's your. Your donkeys. I'm seeing miniature donkeys more and more as pets. I do love that idea. I don't think it would go over well with my condo association, but I do think that donkeys would be a lot of fun. Donkeys are very, very attuned to humans, very affectionate. You know, I've always found horses. I know some of you are going to be big horse people. I've always found horses, like, a little. Sometimes can feel a little aloof, maybe. I just don't know horses very well. Donkeys, they come over, they want to sit in your lap. I mean, it's just. It's a totally different deal. All right, big, beautiful Bill, let's get into some of this. First hour. We talked about how Elon is a little frustrated with where it's going with the Doge team. And look, I think that no matter what, the Doge team has done a huge service just in telling us all about the kinds of wasteful spending and the amount of just nonsense that's going on with these payments. But we still come back to, like, a lot of things. Will Congress do anything about it? We're seeing where the limits of executive power are. I think, in some ways, the artificial limits. Because a lot of what's being done to rein Trump in is just. It's purely partisan in nature. It's not. Oh, this is really about where executive power constitutionally stops and starts. There are judges who are just anti Trump loons, and they want to stop whatever it is that Trump is doing. Right. We've seen that, that's obvious. And they're going to have to keep working through the courts on that. Yeah, Trump, the tyrant, he's always like, yeah, okay, I'll see you in court. You know, we'll make the best arguments and we'll see how this goes. It's not what tyrants do, as you know and I know. But anyway, I think that Trump is in a position right now where he has the most political capital he has ever had and the most ability to change things. But Congress is a big part of the equation. And so the limits of what can be accomplished here when it comes to this bill, the limits are in many ways, I think, just self enforced by Congress. And it does get me to this place of, you know, eventually somebody's going to. And I was, I'm not saying, oh, Trump's, we should get rid of the filibuster now because our guy's in charge. Because I know, you know, this has been holding out for a while and I think eventually it is going to go because eventually people will tire of it. It might take a crisis, maybe even the kind of fiscal crisis that we're heading toward by not actually dealing with the debt. Because we're not dealing with the debt. We're just not. I wish I could tell you we are. I think a lot of what's going to happen in this economy, in this bill is going to be, is going to be great. And I'm very optimistic, but I'm very optimistic about the next year, the next four years. Am I optimistic about where this, what this looks like in 10 years, 20 years? And that's really the question. And because of the, the structure and the nature of our political cycles, it's very hard to get anything done based on, no matter how much of a certainty it is, anything done based on how much of a certainty catastrophe is ten years from now. I tell you in American politics that we are heading toward catastrophe in 10 years. Nobody cares. I tell you, it's happening in 10 days. Maybe people pay attention. 10 months, probably 10 years. Nope, can't do it. Oh, things will change. We'll figure it out. And you know, we've had Ron Johnson on the show from the Senate to talk about this and he's a big Trump supporter, as you know, supports the agenda and he still has his concerns. Now it's make, it's got to go through the Senate side of things because, you know, the House is what, when is the House on summer vacation? The House. And like public school teachers, they get a lot of Time off. Ron Johnson, this is cut to here. He is saying from the Senate side of things he's got concerns. Play it. So you will vote to raise the.
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Tommy Tuberville
Debt ceiling if in fact you get.
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Clay Travis
These spending cuts that you're talking about?
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H
Absolutely. All I've asked for is a commitment to a pre pandemic level spending and a process to achieve and maintain it. We've never had a process to control spending. Don't have a balanced budget requirement that corporation committees didn't work. Budget act didn't work, Simpson Bowles didn't work. The only thing I can see is a very business person's approach, line by line exposed the grotesque waste and fraud and abuse. This would be a five minute conversation in business. So, guys, I told you you could increase your budget based on inflation and the number of customers we serve. You're 10% above that. Cut it. We need President Trump to lead on this. He needs to be fully committed to not funding the deep state at present Biden's levels.
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Clay Travis
He seems very set on this. Senator Rand Paul has been with us on this too. And he's also very supportive overall of a lot of, you know, supportive of the tax cut, supportive of many of the, of the primary components of this bill. And you know, it comes down to, and Trump said this during the live press conference today, just politics, man. To get these Republicans to vote for it, to get, to get all the good things, we've got to get some things in there that we don't like as much. That's really what everyone's just saying right now. I mean, that's where it is. There's, I don't think there's really much of a fight over what the good things are on the bill or what the long term projections on the bill may be. Here's Stephen Miller explaining on a process level some of what's going on here. He put this out on X. Doge cuts are to discretionary spending, he writes, like the federal bureaucracy. Under the Senate budget rules, you cannot cut discretionary spending, only mandatory spending in a reconciliation bill. So doge cuts would have to be done through what is known as a rescission package or an appropriations bill. The big beautiful bill is not an annual budget bill and does not fund the Department of Government. It does not finance our agencies or federal programs. Instead, it includes the single largest welfare reform in American history, along with the largest tax cut and reform in American history, the most aggressive energy exploration in American history, and the strongest border bill in American history, all while reducing the deficit. Now, I know Stephen Miller well enough to know that everything that he's written here is true. I mean, I think you can take this to the bank. The challenge here in all of this is that it's all true, but there's also the reality of, well, even if this is all accurate, reducing a deficit when you have a 37 or $36 trillion debt and you still have a trillion plus deficit yearly is not enough. If I told you, you know, if it was one of those shows you call in, you're like, hey, you know, my wife and I have $5,000 in the bank and we want to go on a $50,000 vacation and I'm afraid I might lose my job next week. We have no savings and we have a huge mortgage on the house. It's like, no, don't do that. That's a bad idea. I can do this, too. Don't do that. That's a bad idea. If you are $36 trillion as a nation in debt and you are looking at spending a trillion dollars plus a year beyond what you are currently, you know, beyond the current debt that you have, that's what the, the deficit is, what the, what the shortfall is annually. The debt is the whole thing put together that we, and like I've said before, the Tea Party was, the Tea Party was doing their thing at like 10 trillion or something. Wasn't that long ago, 10 trillion. And that was, oh, my gosh, and now it's 35 trillion. I mean, you know, the math. Here is the math. The math is a problem. So if we can't get Trump to do the kinds of things that might seem painful and with that maybe transformative, I don't know who would be in a. I don't know who's going to be in a better position, certainly from the Republican side of things. Democrats will spend us into oblivion, I have no doubt. There is no question why my Democrats, they will spend us into oblivion. And they figure, well, as long as then the government's more in charge because the currency is debased and they're going to print money and the government's going to be even more involved in, you know, they're going to, they're going to ruin private industry, they're going to crowd out private expenditures. You're going to. All this stuff. They, they are fine with it. The Democrats aren't going to tackle this at all. We know that it's up to the Republicans to be the adults in the room and start to say, you know, enough is enough, but you Know, it's like telling somebody that it's time to go on a diet. And let me tell you, I know about this. First month of the diet's not fun. First month of the diet, you're like, you know what tastes really good right now? Cheesecake. Cheesecake is good. You know what doesn't taste as good when you're used to eating a lot of cheesecake? Lean ground turkey, 99% no fat. You know, 99% lean or 100% lean. Doesn't taste as good. But you know what? It's important. It's important if you want to lead a long, healthy life to get to the place you need to be metabolically. And same thing with the country, same thing with our debt. It is all about whether we're willing to make the changes and tackle the issues now before they are crises. And increasingly, what I see, and I've said it to you before, I don't think we are. And I wish I could come up with, you know, come up with a happy way of, of putting this, but we're. And I say we. It's not even about Trump. It's more than about Trump and this administration. We, the American people, don't want to do it. Or at least a majority of us who vote don't want to do it. No interest in it. Can't touch entitlements. Can't change. Automatic spending. Think about that. Automatic spending. Can't touch automatic spending. Well, if it's automatic, guess what? This is where it's going to go. It's going to get worse. Now we get. We can talk about some of the great things. Like I said, I think the next year, I think the economy is going to boom. It's going to be fantastic. But now is our chance to deal with things in a way that'll put us on better footing for 10 years from now. And for our kids and our grandkids, and for those of you who haven't great, great grandkids, now is the time to make those decisions. Are. Are we doing that? I think that's a tougher case to make, but I'm open to it. Let me know. 800-282-2882. Light up the lines. Are you happy with the big, beautiful bill? Where are you on this one? I want to hear from you. All right. Having a will is a good thing, and so is establishing a trust. Depending on where you are in life and those you look after, you can find one story after another of people who pass away without a will. And it can get messy and expensive cause stress in families. In many states, up to half an estate can be taken by the government in probate. 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Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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J.R. Martinez
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
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Joe Getty
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and I Heart podcast from Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. Duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
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Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong and you Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Clay Travis
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Buck Sexton
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Listen to Armstrong you get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Neyfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Buck Sexton
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Leon Neyfak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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J.R. Martinez
Affair, and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask.
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Leon Neyfak
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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J.R. Martinez
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Neyfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jack Armstrong
Hey, Buck, one of my kids called me an unk the other day.
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Clay Travis
An unknown.
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Jack Armstrong
Yep. Slaying, evidently, for not being hip, being an old dude.
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Clay Travis
So how do we un. Unk you?
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Jack Armstrong
Get more people to subscribe to our YouTube channel. At least that's what my kids tell me.
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Clay Travis
That's simple enough. Just search the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show and hit the subscribe button.
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Jack Armstrong
Takes less than five seconds to help un me.
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Clay Travis
Do it for Clay. Do it for freedom and get great content while you're there. The Clay Travis and buck Sexton Show YouTube channel. Senator Tuberville joins us now from the great state of Alabama. Also, Coach Tuberville and Sen. Appreciate you making the time for us. Clay is out. So you've got a sports sec football novice with you on the radio today, but we can talk some politics if you're cool with that.
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J.R. Martinez
I'm good with anything, especially, especially the, the sports part and sec. I'm, I'm pretty well versed in that, as you well know.
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Clay Travis
But, well, you know, somehow I, you know, Clay's not here to explain himself on this one, but of the two college football games that I have ever gone to see, both two of them, both had Alabama in them. I am just saying that that is the thing that happens. So you have to take that up. You have to take that up with Clay. So let's dive into. First of all, I know you're running for governor, which is very exciting. I want to talk to you about that. But tell me this. The. The Senate package or the Senate part of the big beautiful bill? What are your feelings on this? Because there are people who are it's one thing when the people who don't like Trump don't like something Trump does, they don't like anything he does. Right. As he said he could cure cancer, then all of a sudden they'd be pro cancer. But there are people who are very pro Trump, including on the Senate side, who are saying, you know what this is, this is something that should be, let's say, tinkered with a little bit on the cutting side. What do you say?
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J.R. Martinez
Yeah, 100%. It's gonna be some adjustments. It never was gonna happen to where the House did their version. They sent it over and we were just going to rubber stamp it. That's not going to happen. First of all, we have what we call the bird rule and has to go the parliamentarian. Anything that comes into this package and some of it probably won't pass through the Byrd rule. And if any changes, if there's one change at all, has to go back to the House. There's several things that other people are very concerned about. One that I'm concerned about is we did not do away with, to me, enough of the Green New Deal giveaways through their inflation reduction Act. Why in the world would we continue to give money away when we shouldn't? Again, they'll probably have to be adjusted in some form or fashion.
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Clay Travis
What is in there on that specific. Because I've seen the people say the Green New Deal giveaway. Is it just a lot of money that the Democrats set up in the COVID era that goes to wind farms or what, what, what is the, the.
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J.R. Martinez
Giveaway part of it exactly? Solar farms subsidies, rebates. Same thing with wind farms. Rebates. Also with EV cars, rebates and you know, any other car we all, and I don't have an electric car, I pay full price. And as so do many, many, many other people in this country, we're continuing to push the EV car and I'm fine with EV car, but at the end of the day we're going to have to get on the same page with this along with the gas burning cars and if you want whichever one you won't find. But the government shouldn't have to pay any of that. So there should be an adjustment to that. There probably be some more adjustments. Probably Medicaid, Medicare. I'm not for any cuts, but I am for reform. Is there enough reform in there? Are the work requirements as they've got it structured as we speak, for Medicaid work requirements, which I think everybody's for everybody that's Republican. The problem is the work requirements don't start for about three or four years. What are we waiting for? I mean, we got to get it done and get it over with and get people back to work and get people in a situation where, where we can cut back on the money that's spent, the people that shouldn't be getting on Medicaid and Medicare. So at the end of the day, we'll look at it starting on Monday. We'll go, go through it line by line, try to make it the best we possibly can. We want President Trump to have his bill, have it done soon, but that's a problem when we put everything in one bill. If we'd have done two separate bills, it would have been a lot different. We could have done the tax version, got it out of the way already, and then we could have done everything else this point, and would have been less of a problem. But when you put it all together, we all knew it was going to be this situation. But eventually it will get done.
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Clay Travis
It will get done. That's, that's certainly good news. Why do you think they didn't do the two bills? Is this just all because of the super narrow margin on the House side in particular, that there was no leeway to change some of the structure here? Because I can understand, given all the political capital that Trump has, and that there's a Democrat opposition that feels like it's barely even relevant in the conversation these days. I know they still have a lot of votes. I know there are a lot of Democrats out there, but they're not finding effective ways to oppose the Trump agenda. I feel like there's a bit of concern that this is the best moment and this moment isn't being used to its fullest to put us on sound fiscal footing.
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J.R. Martinez
Yeah. First of all, the Democrats are trying to block everything that we're doing, trying to slow anything they possibly can down in terms of nominations or any kind of bill like this. They're trying to throw a kink into the wheel, try to put a nail in the tire and slow us all down. But end of the day, if you look at it, the people that actually ones are supposed to be throwing up the budget is the House. The House has a very slim margin. They're the one that marketed this to President Trump. This is how we want to do it. This is the process in which we can get it through the House, and then the Senate has a few more votes to where they can work with. I can understand that. But by doing that, this thing is maybe the biggest bill in the history of bills. And so it's got more things in there, more moving parts, and so it just takes longer. But again, we're going to get this done for the president. He needs it, he deserves it. He's worked at it. The House may have to take it back and readjust some things after we finish it with it. And the Byrd rule, the parliamentarian, so it doesn't cut enough money. At the end of the day, President Trump knows that 1.5 trillion, which is only 150 billion a year for 10 years. This is a 10 year bill. It's got a, he's even said this, we've got to cut back on spending and we got to grow the country. He's going to grow the country by tariffing people all over the world to get manufacturing back. I get a visit or two a week in my office in D.C. about manufacturing. Companies want to come back to the state of Alabama, which is great. But at the end of the day, we have to cut back on this enormous spending. $2 trillion more a year than what the American taxpayers send in. We can't physically put two and two together and make any of this work unless we cut back a little bit more of what the Republicans have in there. Now, in terms of the bill coming.
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Clay Travis
From the House, speaking to Senator Tommy Tuberville. And Senator, you announced yesterday on my friend Will Cain's show that you are running for governor in the great state of Alabama. What, what's leading to that, that transition in your political future. And also, let's get into some of what I think of Alabama. Like, you don't have the problems in Alabama that they do in places like California when it comes to Democrats being in charge. Right. So I'd be very curious to know what the agenda is that you would want to pursue as the governor.
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J.R. Martinez
Yeah. Alabama is a huge Donald Trump state. And I ran, I was going to run for governor seven, eight, nine years ago when President Trump first got in. But we had a Governor Ivey had just gone in. I said, yeah, I'm not going to do that. And President Trump encouraged me to run for the Senate and I did. And we won pretty handily on the back of President Trump and we've been up and it's probably good. I've learned a lot. I've met a lot of people. It's all about contacts. It's like coaching. Same thing, coaching. It's all about contacts and knowing people. Same thing in politics. Then President Trump, in his agenda, he is pushing and changing things in D.C. and moving more money and power back to the states. Now I'll be with President Trump another year and a half and after that point, hopefully I can win this governorship where I can move into the governor's role here in the state of Alabama and take that power and the money that he's going to send back to the states to help make Alabama a better place to live, better place to work and better place to raise a family. So I think it's all working out perfectly time wise. But again, we've got a lot of work to do and I'll spend 90% of my time in D.C. working towards President Trump's agenda for the next year and a half. After that point, we will really know the structure of what he's going to be able to get done with this Congress and hopefully we can maintain the House and the Senate along with the White House in the next Congress. So I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a challenge. I'll have to worry. I don't mind campaigning, I really like it. But we need to continue the same values in education and immigration and law abiding citizens as what President Trump is trying to push all over the country.
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Clay Travis
Senator Tuberville, the team has pointed out that it is only right, it is only fair that I tell Clay this time if I join him on the road during football season that I go see the illustrious Auburn Tigers is what is the best. Should I go see Auburn against Alabama? That would mean I'm 3 for 3 at Alabama games. But we know the Auburn Tigers will of course emerge, emerge victorious in that. Is that the best game? Because I could pretty much go to any game.
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J.R. Martinez
Well that's one of the best games in the country all year long. I don't care whether it's college or high school or NFL. Is the is the Iron bowl as much going on around the stadium and before the game than what happens during the game and there's so much riding on it for in state rival. But you know, we have LSU and other teams that come to Auburn but you can't miss any SEC game across the south is always great to watch. I've been involved in many of them when I was at Ole Miss and same at Auburn. I've been a lot of Alabama games in the last few years. I went with President Trump a couple of times. They're all fun and that's the reason that I'm really fighting hard to try to solve this nil problem. Because the thing that makes college Football, great, especially in the sec, is the fan base and the enthusiasm. And we do not want to lose that when it comes to college sports. And Nil has a opportunity to upset that apple cart if we don't get some answers to it.
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Clay Travis
How do you fix that? The name and likeness issue for Kyle, how do you fix that?
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J.R. Martinez
Well, money's. Money's is the cat's out of the bag. And I don't mind kids making money, but we gotta, we gotta have some structure. There's no structure to contracts. There's no structure. You cannot allow men or women to transfer every year for $25,100,000 just because of money. It's about education. And again, if you come to a place and you come for money, fine. But you've got to work towards an education. And you can't every year shop yourself around for more money. That's not what this should be all about. And again, players should make money. There should be revenue sharing. NCAA dropped the ball on that. But at the end of the day, we have got to put some slit of validity to this because there's going to be donor fatigue coming up because we can't. Some of these schools are spending 20, 30, $40 million a year on their teams and that's not going to last. And, and again, as I said earlier, the number one thing that makes college sports, especially football in the south, popular is a fan base. And the fans aren't going to put up with it. You're going to start losing season ticket sales. And every year you go to a game, now you don't know who's on the team. There's no loyalty.
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Clay Travis
Senator Trapperville. Appreciate you being with us, sir.
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J.R. Martinez
All right, but thank you. Have a great day.
- [68:19]
Clay Travis
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Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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J.R. Martinez
This medal is for the men who went down that day on Medal of.
- [70:28]
Joe Getty
Honor Stories of Courage. You'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
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Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
- [70:57]
Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Buck Sexton
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Listen to Armstrong and Gettysburg on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Neyfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
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J.R. Martinez
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
- [71:28]
Clay Travis
Please.
- [71:32]
Leon Neyfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [71:40]
Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.