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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Unknown Speaker
And insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome everybody. Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off now. Senko Cinco de Mayo edition. I don't speak Spanish very well. Sorry. Cinco de Mayo and Clay. We could all take a moment to commemorate the victory over the Second French Empire at the Battle of Pueblo in 1862. I remember it like it was yesterday. So this really has just become a holiday that Americans have appropriated so that we can have an excuse to drink a lot of cerveza and margaritas. Because Mexicans don't care about this holiday very much. This has become an American thing. We love Cinco. Cinco de Mayo for there the excuse that it gives us to eat delicious food, maybe wear some festive attire, sombreros.
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Ryan Seacrest
I want as many people to culturally appropriate today as possible. I want you to post comfortably on your social media accounts if you have a sombrero hat, if you potentially have a Mexican mustache that you would like to pose with as well. We would like to honor all of our good friends in Mexico with the best thing that America does, which is take the best things from the world and make them better.
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Clay Travis
Do you agree with my somewhat controversial tweet that just came to me this morning that burritos somewhat overrated, but taquitos, which is a deep fried taco, underrated.
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Ryan Seacrest
So it does not surprise me that you would even have elite and high end Mexican food taste, which the burrito I know because the advertisements run all the time with Eva Longoria's podcast advertisement and I, I understand where the burrito came from. I actually am a quesadilla fan. I think the quesadilla is the peak Mexican dish. Now, I know some of you are going to argue fajitas a lot of work and it's always, you know, like sizzling and, and then you have to move things around and complicated. I like the quesadilla. Everything rolled together. And I'll even specify, used to be a chicken quesadilla guy. Now all in on shrimp quesadillas, which probably is a little bit healthier.
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Clay Travis
You know, I'm just going to say I would usually like to make fun of your taste by saying of course you like the Mexican version of the grilled cheese. However, when it comes to fajitas, I've had bad fajitas. I have. Sometimes the steak is too chewy, sometimes the chicken is way too dry. I've never had a bad quesadilla. I will just.
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Ryan Seacrest
It's hard to scratch. Quesadillas are up there with like cheeseburgers, chicken fingers, pizza, if you screw it up. And I mean, this is why kids, like, a lot of times kids go with the cheese quesadilla because they don't want anything else on it. And it basically is even closer to a grilled cheese then it's just really hard to screw up a quesadilla if you got to make a choice.
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Clay Travis
Now. Just saying for everybody, Cinco de Mayo, enjoy however you celebrate. And we could get into some of the discussion about cultural appropriation later. First of all, it's an idiotic term. Second of all, I think that that as a notion is rapidly fading away. And I have to say I wonder if we're even going to see the controversy this fall over children wearing like a Pocahontas Halloween costume. Is this stuff finally going to go back to normalcy where people don't act over, overreact and become hypersensitive? Anyway, discussions for, for later in the show or perhaps another day, let's give you what we got on the news here. Cause I know that's the first and foremost reason why you come and hang with us. That and Clay's culinary takes. We got a sit down with Trump where he covered a lot of ground on Meet the Press. Talks about the border, talks about the Trump third term. We are going to dive into that. Trump also with some scorching truths, which I always think of as tweets, but truth social postings over the weekend, one on judges, and he's almost verbatim, Clay, copying what we've said so many times in the show, which is if Democrats can kick the border wide open and we can't deport anybody in any meaningful numbers, including people that have been here for a year, two years, you know, three years. If we can't do that, the country is essentially over because the Democrats are just going to flood the country to the point where there's no longer sovereignty and the rule of law has just become a joke. We'll, we'll get into that. A lot of attention. And we will spend some time on Trump's truth about reopening Alcatraz as a prison. It's already open, Clay. You've been right.
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Ryan Seacrest
So I was just there like a month ago, remember? Because that's when I watched the great film the Rock with my junior in high school. We were out in San Francisco, we toured Alcatraz. We'll get into the Rock in a little bit. But yes, you know, our friend Dave Rutherford.
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Clay Travis
Dave Rutherford, who is a former Navy seal, has sent us a talk back about this little controversy in that movie because the seals just get wiped out by the Marines. I'm sure the Marines all laugh about this one and they're like, haha, look at the seals. But the seals did not have a good showing in the Rock, which is the most absurd movie any of us, I think, have ever. I loved it, though. I'm not, I'm not hating.
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Ryan Seacrest
So entertaining. I'm not, I'm not going in with the historical accuracy or the analysis of the gun battles, which I'm sure the seals are not happy about. I think the idea of a group of Navy seals deciding to take over chemical weapons. Sorry, if you Spoiler alert here. Deciding to steal chemical weapons and take over an island.
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Clay Travis
The Marines who steal it, the seals try to take the island back. So the seals are the good guys.
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Ryan Seacrest
Sorry, the Marines. Yeah, that's right.
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Clay Travis
Clay, Clay.
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Ryan Seacrest
Sorry, sorry. My bad. They got the seals get wiped out.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Ryan Seacrest
By the Marines real fast. Spoiler alert. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Because we're used to this. Usually when the seals appear in the movie, it's like the cavalry arrives. You're not used to the seals getting all wiped out without taking out a single bad guy. So that's the one part of the Rock. It's like, oh, man. So anyway, Dave Rut is a former seal. He'll weigh in. We'll have some fun on that. I do, by the way, this is not a grumpy buck moment. I do think the Rock is a great watch. It is just absolutely preposterous top to bottom, and is kind of a stealth James Bond movie, too, because of the Sean Connery thing. But we shall discuss that. We got a lot more to dive into and we've heard your talkbacks and emails from over the weekend. But let's dive. Let's get into the Trump situation here. Let's get into what happened in this interview with Chris. First of all, this is we have to keep reminding everybody because if nothing else happened, Clay, in the first year of a Trump presidency, then completely securing the border to the point where everyone has to agree it's secured, you would think, wow, that's a really, that's a really big win for the administration. The only issue that I have with this, or rather the only problem I can foresee, is that he secured the border so quickly that it's now turned into, ok, what's next? Which, yes, that's a high class problem, you could say. But it's amazing what they've been able to do. And even Kristen Welker has to admit this. This is cut one about border crossings. Play this.
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Unknown Speaker
Border crossings are at their lowest level ever recorded. Is the border, is the border now secure?
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Yeah, it's really secure.
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It's absolutely.
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When you say that, doesn't that just sound good? After being abused for years by an incompetent president that allowed people to pour through an open border, criminals from all over the world, murderers and insane people from mental institutions and insane asylum says it. Isn't it a beautiful thing when you say it's the most secure it's ever been in the history of our country? Isn't that a nice statement?
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Clay Travis
It is a nice statement, Clay.
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Ryan Seacrest
And I actually think that we have to keep hammering that home because I think it's indicative that you have to trust Trump on economic and tax policy and other immigration policy choices because everything that he said he would do at the border, he did it and he did it in the first month. And Democrats said basically this was impossible. And it is an incredible accomplishment to have the most secure border that we've ever had in the history of our nation. And so I don't think we can overlook that as there are other battles that are intensely underway right now. And I think, I mean, I know we talked about the stock market for several weeks back, back in April. You know, the stock market is now higher than it was at the beginning of April. That's the S&P 500, the Dow and the NASDAQ. And if you were just calm and you either bought more or you just put your 401k off to the side and didn't look at it, you're doing very well, unfortunately. I know that a lot of people bought high and sold low because you let your emotions get the better of you. But we're potentially. We'll see how it goes today. Buck. I think it would be 10 straight days, which is a record for the last 20 years of stock market going up. And we're basically back to where we were on election day. So if you didn't feel incredibly poor on election day, and I hope a lot of you did not, then the stock market goes up and down. But six months later, we're basically at the exact same place as we were then. And I think that's significant. And why I hope that you stood strong and didn't bail and, and turn into what it, what did panic and what did Trump call it? Don't be a panicking. Yes.
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Clay Travis
Don't be a panicking, yes. He's good with the words. Trump. Bigly, bigly talented when it comes to words. We have a new tariff that got discussed, though, in this interview. This is getting a lot of attention. I think it was covered the Wall Street Journal online today, or at least on the, on the front page, if you will, about the movie industry in this country. And Clay Trump has appointed as special ambassadors to Hollywood Mel Gibson, Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Voight. And there is a big problem with Hollywood right now. People who. Rob Lowe did a podcast. I'm a, I'm a Rob Lowe fan. Rob Lowe did a podcast. Guys had quite a career, Long, long time. And they were talking about how expensive it is to try to make any movie in Hollywood right now. And it's insane, but it's actually a really good microcosm. People might say, oh, this is what's actually a huge business, but they might say this is just one industry. And okay, but what's going on when you can't make movies in America anymore? We're the place that makes all the movies, but we have to make them in other countries. I think that this is important because it shows what we're dealing with here, with stupid policy, with unnecessary regulation and costs. So Trump says there are going to be tariffs now on movies that are not made here. Play to the movie.
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Unknown Speaker
What they've done is other nations have been stealing the, the movies, the movie making capabilities from the United States. And I said to a couple of.
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Clay Travis
People, what do you think?
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Unknown Speaker
I've done some very strong research over the last week and we're making very few movies now. Hollywood is being destroyed. Now you have an incompetent, grossly incompetent governor that allowed that to happen. So I'm not just blaming other nation nations, but other nations, a lot of them have stolen our movie industry. And I'm saying if they're not willing to make a movie inside the United States and we should have a tariff on movies that come in. And not only that, governments are actually giving big money. I mean, they're supporting them financially. So that's sort of.
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Clay Travis
All right. So Clay here, let's. The audio is not great there, but you hear what Trump saying, more or less saying, look, it's too expensive. On that Rob Lowe podcast that I mentioned, he said that I think it was for a lot of productions. Even if there is an open lot in Hollywood, an actual movie lot that no one is using, it is cheaper to fly the entire cast to Budapest and make the movie in Hungary. This is American production companies.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah. I mean, this is a reality. And Hollywood, and I actually think Trump, some of you probably are going to think this too, may be too kind right here in what he's doing, because LA is not exactly Trump country and Hollywood isn't either. But I think it's emblematic of staying committed to principle over the politics here. Hollywood and America in general is being hollowed out. Now, partly that's because of the cost to your point buck that Gavin Newsom has put to bear on production there. I know I worked on a Hollywood studio, well, a LA studio on the Fox lot. I've spent months and months, if not years of my life doing shows that are originating from la, sometimes here locally in Nashville, but other times on the lot itself. And there has been a tremendous decline. I think the number in the New York Times I was reading about it is something like 30% of all Hollywood productions have vanished in the last couple of years and they're now going elsewhere. And there's a lot of people struggling that used to work. And I'll point This out the people Buck. And you've. You might heard Adam Carolla telling us this. I found it to be true. The guys and gals who build the sets and walk around with the cameras and do the physically laborious jobs of making movies and television, actually, a lot of them vote Republican because they would come up to me and they'd be like, dude, I agree with everything you're saying. They'd say it quietly. You know, a lot of times the people in front of the cameras don't. But the people behind the scenes, these people are really hardworking, physical laborers, oftentimes. And many of them are Trump people.
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Clay Travis
You know, my. My wife yesterday was tending to our baby, Little speed. And we're flipping through because she, you know, she's got a lot of. A lot of baby chores to take care of, and I try to help out. So I'm there with her. And we're. We're in kind of that mode where we're all taking a beat with the baby. We're trying to find something on tv. We're flipping through, and we get to the Schwarzenegger classic Commando, which she had never seen, and we proceeded to dive into. Have you ever seen Commando?
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Ryan Seacrest
Oh, of course.
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Clay Travis
Up there with the Rock. In terms of. Great movie, absolutely preposterous and makes no sense in any. But doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Still a great movie. But it's the whole thing. You can tell it's shot in the. In like the. Either the Hollywood Hills or probably in the Valley somewhere. I mean, it's shot right in the vicinity of la. You can just see the topography and the cars all have LA license plates on and everything else. And it's just funny because that used to be the standard. So many of the movies we grew up with were all filmed in and around Southern California because that's where Hollywood was, right? So you just. You hired a camera crew, you went to a place that. And what we've seen now is they're all making movies in Vancouver.
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Ryan Seacrest
Why are you.
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Clay Travis
Why are you going to make movies in Vancouver? So I don't think what Trump is doing is crazy. But beyond that, I think people recognize that bad policy and bad decision making by people like Gavin Newsom have really made it hard for one of the great American industries, which is true of the. Of the movie industry. It is one of the great America. We are totally dominant in movies, and we should continue to be. All right, we'll come back into all this here in just a moment. You know, ransomware activity is on the rise on the rise. These online hackers have been targeting companies, school districts, hospitals, you name it. Get a LifeLock membership and protect yourself. LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for risks to your online identity. And if you do become a victim, a dedicated US based restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Scammers are getting increasingly sophisticated and sometimes you don't even know you're being hacked. LifeLock detects and alerts you to potential identity threats you may not spot on your own, like loans taken out in your name, unwarranted charges on your credit card, and more. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives, and it's easy to help protect yourself with LifeLock. Join now and save 40% off your first year with My Name Buck as your promo code, call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go online to lifelock.com and use promo code Buck for 40% off terms applied.
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Clay Travis
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Ryan Seacrest
No.
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Buck Sexton
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Clay Travis
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Buck Sexton
I'm Leon Naifak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ryan Seacrest
We're gonna get into the latest deportation plan of the Trump team, which is going to be I kind of fascinating. There also is a poll up. Do you believe I could make the swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco or would I drown, slash be eaten by sharks? Only 8% of people believe I could make the swim. Buck, this is. I just. I understand that some of you are elite swimmers out there. I just, I don't think there's any way that I would not be able to make it. Like I could walk 50 miles today if I wanted to. I could just keep going and swimming. I think I would just, you know, take a little break every now and then and Then I would keep going. Like I'm confident I could make this swim. But most of you disagree and there are a lot of flute memes. One of you suggested I could turn my flute into a snorkel. And a lot of you have put me in bathing suit, which is not a flattering.
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Clay Travis
I am now deluged in my mentions with photos of Clay in a Speedo playing the flute in San Francisco Bay. I was not expecting this.
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Ryan Seacrest
This is funny. Paula Scanlon, who was Leah Thomas, his teammate at the University of Pennsylvania, has now weighed in and said that she and Riley Gaines would be happy to help me train for the for the big swim from Alcatraz. I just know I would get eaten by a shark. I swear. I just feel like this is tempting fate from a shark perspective more than anything else. So amazing responses so far. Lots of talkbacks. Here is Reginald from San Diego who has already weighed in. He says he swam from Alcatraz to San Francisco. Reginald, what did Reginald say? A.A. no claim. Buck.
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Clay Travis
I have done it. I have swim from Alcatraz in San Francisco, about an hour. There was a lot of chop. It was brutal, but it could totally be done. And there were swim teams, you know, high school boys and girls in, you know, speedos doing it. So you don't even have to have a wetsuit. But I had one.
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Ryan Seacrest
I would definitely wear a wetsuit. It was really funny. If that's true. There were high school swim teams that would just be lapping me the whole way and I might have to be saved. But I feel better about it since Reginald just let me know you guys can weigh in. I wanted to hit this too, Buck, as, as one does. In addition to my incredible ability to swim, which a lot of you are having a great deal of fun with, I saw this from Bill Malugian speaking of a guy who'd looked good in a bathing suit in an incredible transition there. And Bill Belugian this morning broke news that I'm curious to get your reaction to Buck. We played the audio from Kristen Welker at NBC where they were making it clear that the border is more secure than it ever has been before. But we talked or I talked with Tom Holman and we've asked this question. How many people are self deporting? Uh, this morning Malluchin reported that they are going to be willing to pay. Listen to this, Buck. For the commercial flights of illegal aliens who self deport. And they will give them an additional thousand dollars once they are confirmed to have left the country. This will save American taxpayers 70% as it currently costs DHS on average about $17,000 to arrest, detain and deport someone for the US while paying for the flights. So this would cost way less and it's trying to encourage people to self deport. Our friend Stephen Miller, who was on Friday with us, Buck said the savings are as much as $1 million per illegal alien family given the long term cost of free welfare and public support. Interesting idea. Do you think it works in any way? Do people say, okay, I'll take this free flight, I'll go back home? Because there is talk that some people are here, don't have the resources to get back to the country that they came from.
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Clay Travis
I like the idea. I think the number has to be a bit higher, quite a bit higher for people to. And then you do get into this. So now we're going to reward illegal behavior, you know, which, which is what you are doing that. Right. You're rewarding illegal behavior in some way. However, the savings are without question. So. Okay, well, would we. What's more important, what's best for the country and the taxpayer or that we further. You know, part of the punishment is you have to leave the country. So it's not like people are getting away entirely with the illegal act of entry, but. So it's $1,000. They're gonna have to. Those are rookie numbers. I think they're gonna have to pump those numbers up in order to get to where they need to be on this. But one of the big problems, and this is what drives me so nuts when we have these discussions about immigration. One of the big problems that never gets addressed is it is existing immigration, immigration law right now that you are not allowed to be a public charge. And that includes legal immigrants, I might add.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
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Clay Travis
You are not supposed to be able to come to this country and be on welfare, period. Because everyone can understand that there's a lot of poor places all over the world and if people can just get to America and be in a safe place where all their bills are paid and they don't have to do anything, they're going to want to do that. And that's not good for the American people. That's not a fair, a fair bargain for us. But that law, Clay, or that, that part of statute is effectively ignored. And there's all kinds of ways that states and, and even federal programs, but state programs are exploited by illegals to give them welfare. So the savings would be massive. If you could do this. I would say this seems to be a pattern and Remember with the, the buyouts of federal employees, initially it was a very, very small number, but it got a little bit bigger. A little bit bigger. Part of this may be Clay, okay, they're not going to self deport right now, but if there are dramatic increases in that deportation number such that people believe there's a realistic chance they could be deported, better to do it on your own terms, on your own schedule and get that thousand bucks. So we'll see.
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Ryan Seacrest
I think the concept in general I actually like because it's giving someone an incentive to return. I also think it going back to their home country, I also think it helps to address what probably is an issue for some people. To your point, Buck, that they don't have the resources, they are a drain on the country and on our taxpayer dollars. But they get here and they don't want to walk all the way back to South America. And as a result, they may feel like they're trapped here. If they got a free plane flight back home, my concern is that they would leave and then try to come back. Right. And you would hope our southern border is secure enough that that wouldn't happen, but that then we'd be paying for them to go back home on a vacation and then they find a way to get back into the country. That would be somewhat of my concern. But right now nobody seems to be getting in. And so I like this idea. I don't think it's. It harms. Tom Holman told me that they knew that around 5,000 people had self deported based on the CB1 app that they could track. And he thought it was more than that. And so I do think that there's nothing wrong with trying it. And it eliminates, to Stephen Miller's point, what could potentially be a really long process. And Trump, I believe, answered that question from Kristen Welker. Well, everybody is focused on the due process argument, but Trump's claim is very valid. If we have to do millions of due process hearings, there truly is no way to deport these people.
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Clay Travis
I mean, another thing they could do is say that they will for people who self deport, you know, they'll give them $1,000 and maybe they'll also waive the restriction on being able to legally apply to the country. Now, legally applying to the country would be, that takes a long time and it's, it's not an easy process. But you know, I'm just saying they may try to come up with new incentives to get people to leave and try to come in a legal way. Money is obviously one. But within the process, they may do, they may do some other things because right now, I mean, if you overstay your visa, for example, you're not able to get another visa and you're not going to be able to become a green card holder. Right. I mean, if you break immigration law and then try to come through the legal system, you have all kinds of problems. But if you're just illegal the whole time.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Then you just sort of get to go along with it.
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Ryan Seacrest
Here's cut seven. Here's Trump answering that question from Kristen Welker about due process for illegal aliens.
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Unknown Speaker
Your secretary of state says everyone who's here, citizens and noncitizens, deserve due process. Do you agree?
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Clay Travis
Mr.
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Buck Sexton
I don't know.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.
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Clay Travis
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
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Unknown Speaker
It seems, it seems, it might say that. But if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials. We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on earth, but some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth. And I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.
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Ryan Seacrest
This is the essence of this, and this is what we've tried to hammer home to a lot of you. The courts are set up to allow tons of illegal people into this country, and there is truly no mechanism to deport millions of people from this country. The math doesn't add up in terms of how long it takes to get those people out. Democrats know it. That's why they opened up the southern border. They knew if 20 million, which is the number Tom Homan gave me, 20 million illegals are here in four years. Let's say that Trump is able to deport a million people. 95% of the people that are illegally here are still here. And then Democrats come in, if they win in 2029, take the oath of office, you know what they'll do? Buck immediately change the immigration laws and open back up the southern border and allow millions of more people in here. And that's, that's the challenge we're in. We have a system where they can all come here and our courts don't allow us right now to get them all out. And I like Trump's answer here because I do think it's time. How would you answer that question structurally, do 20 million illegal immigrants that shouldn't be here, that we know, are not citizens. Do they deserve to have hearings in front of all of our courts? There's no way that we could do that unless somehow we just. And maybe this is something they're thinking about. Unless Trump issues an executive order and makes like 100,000 new immigration judges and all they do is hold these hearings, basically stamp it, and they're gone. That's. That to me is the only possible way is if you had a special court in some way put in place that only focused on illegal immigration and you could have these hearings basically around the clock at all times, because otherwise there's no way to comply in our current judiciary with due process rights as currently applied, that would lead to these people ever being forced out of the country.
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Clay Travis
I think part of the outrage over this too is that we've all seen that the decision, it was a decision to let in the illegals under Biden in the first place. They didn't want to stop it. They actively decided to do this. So it's not a problem that Trump has inherited that everybody wishes didn't happen. It was active sabotage of our sovereignty by the Democrats. This was the choice made by the Democrat Party and we all understand why. They think that the more illegals who come in, the more people will be dependent on the state and the taxpayer resources and redistribution and the welfare state in America will essentially turn it into a one party state when you pile in enough people from the third world who are going to need and desire state resources. So that's, that's the plan. Right? That's what they've been running with. And in the meantime, we say, okay, fine, but you can't have people in the system who say the rule of law means that the law can be violated endlessly, but nobody can be punished for violating the law. That, that can't be the system. I mean, they can say whatever they want about this or that statute. But that's, there's a, there's a, there's an in principle rejection of that clay that I think is going on. And that's what's different now. They can point to whatever statute, a statute they want. They ignored the statutes that should have kept out the 15 million illegals who piled in under Biden. And now they want rule of law. You know, they created an emergency. You don't get to create an emergency and then say, hold on a second, you gotta, you know, you got to give us proper and due notice before you do anything about it. It's like the house is burning down and you guys lit the you guys lit the match and threw the kerosene on the floor. We're not sitting around debating how we put the fire out with you. So that I think is the proper attitude about this. And that's what needs to happen going forward. Look, if you want to empower yourself with a self protection tool or a whole range of those tools, Saber is the number one choice out there. And their pepper spray is the most trusted by law enforcement. Their pepper spray gel is a perfect example of the quality of the products that Sabre makes. And look, the pepper projectile launcher they have is the best in the industry once you see this. Clay and I have tried them out. We have Saber products in our own homes and both of our wives like to have non lethal options if we're out of the house and they want to be able to defend themselves, they want to be able to handle an intruder. A lot of people like to have forced escalation opportunities. So that means non lethal and lethal in the home. But some people just want that non lethal. Sabre has you covered. Sabers products are all found on their website. Sabre radio.com is where you go. S A B R E radio.com you decide for yourself and your family what's best to protect yourself. And look, I think Sabre products are exactly what you should have. Go to sabreradio.coms a b r e radio.com you'll save 15%. Or if you just want to call on the phone, tell them what you want, they can have them sent to you. 844-824 safe. That's 844-824 safe.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Clay Travis
Joined for the first time by Nicole Paul Parker, former FBI Special agency the Fox News contributor. Nicole, welcome to the program.
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Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Clay Travis
Let's dive into this, shall we? A story recently on. You know, it's funny, friends of ours run the FBI now. Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. It's pretty amazing. The deputy and the. And the director and the FBI under their leadership has reassigned a few agents who had been photographed kneeling during the, quote, racial justice protests in 2020 after the death of George Floyd. First of all, what, what happened here? Like, how could this have gone on at the FBI in the first place? And is reassignment really a punishment? What can you tell us about this move?
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Unknown Speaker
All right, so first of all, I was in the Miami division working as an FBI special agent when this occurred. Those pictures were taken of the agents kneeling on June 4th of 2020. And internally at the FBI, those photos became popularly known as Neil Team Six. You know, kind of a sarcastic play on field. Team Six, Neal Team Six instead. And it was quite catastrophic. Internally at the FBI, I can tell you that agents were not happy. That is not a proper representation of who we are and how we should be behaving. And what they did, nailing the George Floyd protesters was unequivocally wrong. And current and retired agents were appalled by their actions, and it was embarrassing to good agents. Yet people say that because of these demotions and reassignments, there are other current and former FBI agents who are disgusted at their reassignments and disgusted at the demotions. So what I can tell you is that this is a clear example and clear demonstration of what I witnessed at the FBI. There really are two FBIs. Okay? I call it FBI one versus FBI two. And the way I perceive it, FBI one, we're solid FBI agents that just came to do their job. They took an oath to uphold the constitution and to protect the American people and to put all political persuasions aside. FBI, too, were those that oftentimes were in leadership roles. It wasn't just people in D.C. it was people from the top, and it trickled all the way down to the bottom. There were people in the support staff that also fall into FBI, too. These are individuals that use their law enforcement power to push their political and social agendas. And this demonstration of them kneeling, in my opinion, is the epitome of FBI2 behavior. And FBI1 was not happy about it because that is embarrassing and shameful behavior for an FBI one agent. And so these agents.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, no, no, I was just going to say. I thought you were finished answering that, But I was going to remind you, came on with us January 2nd, and I think this ties in with what you're saying right now. Right after the terror attack in New Orleans, they had an FBI agent go up and say that they didn't know whether this was a terror attack. How much do you think the culture has already changed inside of the FBI with Cash Patel now in charge and Dan Bongino second, based on what you're hearing.
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Unknown Speaker
So within this clear indication that this type of behavior is not tolerable. Again, this happened in June of 2020, and they're taking action on it now, almost five years later. I think what it shows is that Cash Patel means business. Okay, President Trump won. The FBI and DOJ were politically and socially weaponized. And there are two FBI's right now. I'm sorry, there are. And what? Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and all other solid leadership, the Trump administration, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Their goal is to make one FBI. We just want one solid FBI. And they are taking steps each and every day. Some of them are more publicly seen, some of them are behind the scenes. But this to me is a huge bold move that indicates they mean business and people will be held accountable and there will be tangible consequences. And without tangible consequences, the FBI will remain 2 FBI. And so I like it. I think it's a bold move. I think FBI Won is supportive of this because again, this is not the demonstration of who we are. We know you do not wear your official FBI marked ballistic vets in public, making a political and social statement and kneeling to protesters. It looked like those kneelers were in support of the cause of the George Floyd protesters. That is entirely inappropriate. You can never make political or social statements on FBI time in FBI gear and especially in public. And the FBI is to remain politically and socially neutral. And under the Biden administration in particular, that was not the case.
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Clay Travis
Well, how did this happen, Nicole, can I ask?
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Unknown Speaker
Just because T shirts inappropriate as well, you should not wear any political T shirt ever at the FBI.
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Clay Travis
So when I was the CIA a long time ago, you could see that HR policy and some of the analyst cadre was just becoming more and more left wing all the time. And I think that was, I think the HR and admin was really where it started because, you know, agency guys who had been in for a long time were not tended not to be woke. But then it started to become more woke and more. More left wing and more ideologically, Ideologically driven. How could this happen at the FBI though? Right? We all watch. I mean, we're talking about the rock before. We think of the FBI as very, by the book, spit and polish all about the law. And you got a bunch of communists running the place under Biden. How did that happen?
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Unknown Speaker
I think how it happened, it's twofold. Again, there were people that have always been at the FBI that have not really been necessarily doing the right thing, that were appointed to high leadership roles and positions. I think also the FBI and their DEI hiring, their hiring standards changed drastically. So the type of individuals that they were looking to hire, agents and support staff, I would say changed drastically. And so now you have just a different shift in how the FBI used to operate versus how it is operating. Now, but again, immediately, they are changing and increasing the physical fitness requirements to a higher level. At the FBI, in the test, they are getting rid of DEI entirely. There were 19 clubs and organizations, if you can believe that. How does the FBI have time for 19, you know, social justice clubs until every single case and crime is solved at the FBI, there's no time for that. But that's what this last administration specifically focused on, I thought, under the Obama administration as well. But I think the key is getting to the root of the problem. And again, we going back to the kneelers. They claim that they were in fear of violence. They thought that, you know, they were in fear for their lives. I personally saw no signs of violence or anyone being in imminent danger, death or serious physical injury. And in fact, many of the kneelers were clapping, they were smiling, they were cheering, and those are hardly signs of duress. Or.
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Clay Travis
Wait, wait, just real, real quick. The FBI people claim they kneeled because they were scared, correct?
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Unknown Speaker
These FBI agents, that's insane. They said that they were in fear for their lives of serious violence breaking out, but yet these. And most of them are female, and they're clapping and cheering. Totally inappropriate. You don't look like you're in fear for your life. And if you're an FBI agent and you're in fear for your life because some protesters walk by, I can tell you, I knew of other agents at surrounding buildings because they were asked to stand in front of posts in front of these buildings to protect them. Other agents at other buildings weren't kneeling, and there was no major violence breaking out of those. I didn't see anyone charging at these agents where they felt that their life was in serious, you know, imminent danger of death or serious physical injury. I'm sorry. And I worked violent crime in Miami. If you are in fear for your life, the FBI highly trains us at Quantico. We go through firearms training. We go through defensive tactics training, quite extensive training. And if you are in fear for your life in that situation, with all due respect, you really should not be an FBI agent, because if all you're capable of doing is working behind a desk and you're not able to, you know, face potential violence, we are sworn law enforcement officers as FBI agents, and you need to be able to stand on your own two feet, literally, and not kneel. But again, there was no one charging at them, laughing and smiling. And then what was more disgusting to us internally, these agents were thinking, you know, they're going to get disciplined. They're probably going to get fired. If not, they're going to get disciplined. Not only did that not happen, they got some of the most highly sought after positions at the FBI. They were offered $100 gift cards by the FBI Agents association after that incident. It looked like they were rewarding them. And that's the FBI too, that I worked under. And that is why I left the FBI, because myself and others looked at that and we said, this is wrong. This is embarrassing. This is shameful behavior. I want no part of this. And America needs to know what's going on here.
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Ryan Seacrest
Nicole, thanks for coming on. And again, I love this perspective. Do you remember a moment you started enjoying the FBI to try to catch bad guys? Like Buck joined the CIA. Do you remember a moment in time when you were working and things shifted? When did the culture, the vibe start to change as an FBI agent? Do you remember a moment or was it a slow slide?
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Unknown Speaker
I would say it was a slow slide. But the defining moment that I initially noticed that the FBI was political because I started in 2010, it would be in 2016. When Jim Comey got in front of the American people on July 5th of 2016 and he said that no reasonable prosecutor would charge Hillary Clinton. Well, fast forward, where was the reasonable prosecutor who wouldn't charge Donald Trump? And I'm like looking at it and I'm thinking, isn't that interesting? It's all about when it fits their narrative and when it's convenient for them. But this is not equal enforcement of the law. And for them to say that it is, that's insulting. It's insulting to an American people and it's insulting to the FBI. One agents, we're not stupid. Like, we knew exactly what was going on at the FBI. So for me, I would say July 5th of 2016, when Jim Comey got out there, okay, so then Jim Comey gets fired, rightfully so. Christopher Wray comes in. We're hoping that he'll be better. He wasn't. He wasn't any better at all. And so it ramped up very strongly in the summer of 2020 when we noticed that the FBI was doing virtually nothing to stop these violent rioters from burning down our country. And then Fast forward to January 6th of 2021. The FBI went full force for misdemeanors, and they did that for four straight years. But yet when our country was getting burned to the ground, virtually no response. January 6th, full force. And that happened over and over and over at the FBI. And then the Social Justice Warrior email, I started feeling like I work for A social justice warrior club rather than a law enforcement agency. And I talked about this. My best friend was killed. She was shot and killed in the line of duty executing a warrant against a child predator. There was no SWAT team for her. Yet they were liberally sending SWAT resources in the same time frame for January 6th misdemeanors. But yet no SWAT team to the most violent offender that the FBI takes down. And now we have cued up that FBI agents, others were shot, but yet it was just so blatant. And then the FBI didn't even tell us what happened. They didn't even tell us what happened. But yet I got a DEI email almost every single day. Can you imagine how sad that was? My friend is dead. I don't know what's happened, but yet I need to be informed that there's 19 different clubs at the FBI for social justice warrior preferences. I wanted no part of that. That's not why I joined. And sadly a lot of people like myself walked away from the bureau. But the good part now is I do believe in redemption and I do believe that there are so many good people still at the FBI. And the key is proper leadership and bringing the right people on board and getting the FBI back on track.
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Ryan Seacrest
Outstanding stuff as always. Nicole Parker. Encourage you guys to follow her on social media. Thank you for sharing your and thank you for giving us feedback on this. I wanted to make sure you came on when I saw it happen.
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Unknown Speaker
All right, well, I love y'all so much and keep up the good work and God bless y'all.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Clay Travis
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Ryan Seacrest
No.
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Buck Sexton
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Clay Travis
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Buck Sexton
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Fiasco Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to fiasco Iran Contrast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Is Trump running for a third term? He loves to talk about it because the media gets in a total panic over the whole thing. Although I would just point out that what do they do really now? They, they just cover Trump. That's all, that's all that they exist to do. And they kind of need him. Especially over at msnbc. I tried to watch. Maybe this is like an addiction that I can't shake. I tried to watch a little bit of Morning Joe this morning.
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Ryan Seacrest
Oh, no.
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Clay Travis
So boring. I know. I went back to it, you know, you know, Morning Joe sent me a U up text and I was like, okay, fine, you know, I'll, I'll respond. So I try to watch. It's so boring and worthless that I turn it off. Honestly, in 10 minutes. I couldn't even, couldn't even get through a full segment. It was just such a waste of time.
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Ryan Seacrest
Is it fair to say that the combination of saying this was the best version of Biden and then showing up to bend the knee to Trump that basically that show just doesn't matter anymore? I mean, yeah, at this rate, at.
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Clay Travis
This rate, Joe and Mika are going to be selling ShamWows in about six to 12 months. I mean, it's really, it's tough. It's tough over there. You know, it's. It's a bit like watching one big slow motion funeral for their careers. But anyway, yeah, the media is having a tough time. We'll talk about this Trump third term stuff in a second. I just have a question, Clay, just a curiosity thing, because I know you'll know this because I seem to recall finding out at some point years ago that because the NFL commissioner, they're going to do the draft now on the lawn. So the president has. Now, we played that audio a minute ago. Doesn't the NFL commissioner make like $40 million a year or just something completely outrageous? I feel like I could do that job and I don't even know anything about football.
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Ryan Seacrest
Probably more than 40 million a year now. And the way they justify it is he's the CEO basically of the NFL, but each of the 32 NFL teams kicks in like a million and a half dollars. So rounding basis like that isn't that much. But I think it's the best job in sports and I think it is, to your point, also the easiest job in sports because people love football and all you have to do is not be a complete and total moron and you can run that business.
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Clay Travis
This is the classic thing. I think that people always need to remember that there are a lot of jobs out there that are really hard to get and not very hard to do. A lot of people want the job. I'm not saying it's easy to become that person or to get that role, but it's not hard to do. It's not hard to do. Dude, you or I could be, you know, tenured Harvard professors tomorrow. Like, very hard job to get get, but do way easier than what we're doing right now. And I love our jobs. Our jobs. I can't believe we get paid to do this, but there are a lot of jobs out there. And I just think NFL commissioner gets just like go to meetings and talk about sports all day and make. I mean, how many players make 30 or 40 million dollars a year?
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Ryan Seacrest
I would say increasingly more. And they would argue partly because of his leadership. But yeah, like, if you're a star quarterback in the NFL now, you make $50 million. A few receivers make really big money defensive ends, but Roger Goodell is probably higher paid than 95% of NFL players, at least. Maybe 90. Yeah, 95 is probably a good guess. And. But I think the best job, I think that that is an amazing job. I still think the best job in media relative to pay, you know, Judge Judy makes over $50 million a year. I've talked about this before because I think it's the best job anywhere in media. And she only works 30 days a year or something. They tape all those shows bang, bang, bang. So she barely has to be on set or in studio. Otherwise she can just travel around the world for the other 11 months out of the year, basically.
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Clay Travis
But when some guy refuses to return the hose that he borrowed from his neighbor and the damages are in excess of 30 or $40, you need Judge Judy to just be like, excuse me, sir, do you.
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Ryan Seacrest
I think I could do that job. I think I could do Judge clay. Judge Judy's 85 years old. I think if they let me play the role of judge, I mean, I've got the law background. I think I could do that gig. And I, I might retire.
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Clay Travis
I don't even have a law background and I could do that. That gig. It'd be the easiest gig in the.
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Ryan Seacrest
World, you know, but I mean, that's the best 50 million to work 30 days a year. And really, I mean, that's not a high stress job. It's fun. You're trying to solve. Relatively inconsequential.
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Clay Travis
I've read about it. It's not even a legal. It's a rather. It's not even a true court proceeding. It's binding arbitration. So she is just in the role of arbitrator for low, basically low stakes disputes.
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Ryan Seacrest
My understanding is they go and they grab the small claims court cases that they think are interesting, get both parties to sign that they will agree to be bound by whatever her judgment is.
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Clay Travis
And she's the arbitrator.
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Ryan Seacrest
And basically all they have to do is just find somewhat interesting cases that they think their audience will respond well to. Probably doing interviews to find out whether or not the plaintiff and defendant are also entertained. I used to watch people score back in the day with Judge Wapner.
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Clay Travis
I think Judge Wapner is the kind of the OG I. I'm. He may be the goat of the. Of the fake judge presiding over minor disputes with people. I. Because I used to watch him, too, back in the day. So I'm afraid.
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Ryan Seacrest
I mean, he was. He was definitely the guy that went. That took this into the stratosphere. Then you had Judge Joe Brown. You had all these different guys who were trying to be Wapner, but Judy is the one who's made the most money.
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Clay Travis
And I'm also now just realizing if you guys all push Clay into actually doing this Alcatraz swim, like, I can't. I can't leave my. Can't leave my wingman. You know, I'm gonna have to get in a wetsuit, too. And I'm not as buoyant as I used to be. So this is a little bit concerning. I'll be honest with you. You know, flotation is easier when you got a little extra to love on you. So I've lost some buoyancy in the last year.
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Ryan Seacrest
Well, I'm told that the challenge is just to avoid getting swept out to sea. So I, I, you know, that is a. That's a pretty substantial. That's a good life lesson.
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Clay Travis
And if we do see a big fin in the water, the good news is I don't have to outswim the shark. I just have to outswim Clay. So, you know what I mean? I just got to figure out which direction I got to go in. That's an old joke about. About a bear in the woods. I'm sure you've heard that one, right? When the guys.
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Ryan Seacrest
That's the bear.
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Clay Travis
The bear with the two hikers. He's like, why are you taking off your hiking boots and putting on your sneakers. Because I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. Yeah, it's true.
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Ryan Seacrest
Speaking of runs, this is disappointing. Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia, has just announced to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, this is breaking literally right now, that he will not run for Senate in the open Georgia Senate seat in 2026.
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Clay Travis
Well, let's hope Republicans don't decide to lose a fourth winnable Senate seat in that state. That would be nice. We'll see. Wait, but we mentioned this third.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Third run thing. Right. With the, with the, with the president, with President Trump running for a third time. He, he talked about this on NBC on their morning show, Meet the Press. This is cut four. Let's hear what the man himself said.
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Unknown Speaker
The Trump Organization is selling hats that say Trump 2028.
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Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Are you seriously considering a third term, Mr. President, even though it's prohibited by.
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Unknown Speaker
The Constitution, or is this about staying politically viable?
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I will say this. So many people want me to do it. I have never had requests so strong as that. But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge, you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's constitutional, that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else. But there are many people selling the 2028 hat. But this is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a great Republican to carry it forward.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Clay, this is, this is Trump being real for. Or, you know, this is him being serious for a moment. He's like, look, guys, like, it's not, not really running for a third term. I want to have a great four years. So the media with their, He's a dictator. He's a fascist. Okay. He just likes to poke you, just like we've said all along. Not a surprise. Here's what I think is interesting. He doesn't say who the successor is. And I've said this all along, and it's. But I don't think there is, I don't think this is in any way a judgment on J.D. vance from Trump. I think Trump so far has, has nothing but good feelings and good, you know, basically everything that J.D. vance done, I think has been on point since he's been the vice president. I don't think he's done anything that Trump wouldn't say. Great. High five. It's not about that. It was interesting when she raised this about, well, are you going to be in the game Going forward, I think that Trump, as long as he is around, is going to be in the position of Republican kingmaker. And he, and he wants to see how things develop. He doesn't want to get ahead of himself and anoint anybody to successor this early, even though he has a vice president. You know, that's kind of a tradition. That's not really. Or I shouldn't even say it's a tradition. You know, vice president doesn't mean that you're the nominee the next time around if you have two terms. You know, a lot of people very happy with what Marco Rubio has been doing as Secretary of state. How do you see that? Because to me, they. The interesting part of this is more Trump positioning himself going forward as, as kingmaker and not. Trump's going to run a third time. He's not going to run a third time.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, I really thought it was interesting that he specifically shouted out JD Vance and Marco Rubio because what it immediately made me think of Buck was it took me back to the 2016 sweepstakes when Obama set down Joe Biden and said, hey, my pick is going to be Hillary. Now, there's obviously not the same mental cognition related issues for either Marco Rubio or J.D. vance at play, but the fact that Trump mentioned both made me kind of wonder how much of this will be a coronation of J.D. vance. And J.D. has pointed out, hey, if things go well for three years, I think there'll be a lot of opportunities for people who want to run. But how many challengers will JD Vance actually end up with? It's hard to forecast right now, but inside of the administration, Rubio is obviously very liked by Trump. He's got four different jobs right now and J.D. vance was the pick. Remember? If I don't, I believe I'm correct. The final three that Trump considered were J.D. vance, Marco Rubio and Doug Burgum. And there were a lot of people pushing for Burgum and Rubio and a lot of people pushing for Vance, too. But that seems to have been the final three that Trump made the decision about. And I just kind of wonder how this is going to all shake out because he seems to really like Rubio and he seems to obviously really like J.D. vance. Is it possible those guys run together and have a unity ticket, or are we going to see another, you know, donnybrook like we saw in 2026, 2016, where you have 19 or 20 people running and you're not sure who the, who the pick's going to be?
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Clay Travis
Well, if this administration continues on the path that it's currently on. I think that it's very likely that de facto the next Republican nominee will be whoever Donald Trump says it should be. Now, does that mean that he relishes that? It's a bit like being on the Apprentice, right? Does that mean that he relishes that position? Or does that mean that he likes to be the elder statesman who gets to preside over whatever that contest looks like? You know, be the guy who's more just kind of overseeing it instead of having his guy or his gal. Look, I know it's, it's early for this in a sense, but it's also not that early because in a year, this is already, this is going to be a thing where people are making moves.
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Ryan Seacrest
This is why after the midterms, this starts.
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Clay Travis
It's going to start. I mean, this is why having a one term lock in for Trump means that this conversation is going to, we're going to be having election conversations a lot sooner than would be anticipated because when you have a first term president, when he's running again, the assumption is that it's him and everyone knows that. And so you don't have that same jump to position for the primary. And I think this time around there will be, before you know it, it'll be there. And the good news for the Republicans is, I mean, truly a deep bench. And the way I think you can just see that, Clay, is there are a whole bunch of people already around Trump who, if they became the nominee, a lot of MAGA people would say, fantastic, this is, this is carrying on the legacy.
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Ryan Seacrest
I also think it'll be interesting on the Trump side. We've never seen Trump as a, quote, unquote lame duck. That's not me taking a shot at Trump. It's obviously what you're called when you can't run for reelection. But the President still would be there for all of 2027 and most, well, all of 2028. And yet he wouldn't be angling for anything politically. So what does Trump truly unbound by any potential to run for any political office going forward actually look like? He grips and rips quite a lot now. Can you imagine what he would be like without having to run for reelection?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. What do the executive orders look like when Trump's only got 18 months left in office? That's what I want to know. Well, you know, what are those press conferences like when he's got 18 months left? It's already pretty mind blowing. I didn't, I didn't Even know what 11 on the dial would would be like, no doubt.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story. Listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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