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Clay Travis
Who's a good boy?
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Buck Sexton
Who's a good boy?
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Clay Travis
You're a good boy.
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Buck Sexton
That's right, dude. You're a good.
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Buck Sexton
Friday edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton show, known to many of you as the Clay and Buck Show. Same show.
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Steve Hilton
Very important.
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Buck Sexton
We've got a lot to talk to you about on this lovely Friday. I cannot believe how close Thanksgiving actually is already. We will get into some debates and discussions in the next few weeks about cobbler, for example, and some of the.
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Clay Travis
Most delectable, the most delectable of dessert treats.
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Buck Sexton
Some of you Southerners are going to get are going to get fired up again as we discuss your favorite various Thanksgiving sides. I don't even know what they are. Sometimes there's these, these funky names. We will have discussions about all of that and also some very important things that are going on. No doubt about that. Like first up, we got Trump. The White House has struck new trade deals with four countries Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador and Argentina to lower tariffs on select goods like beef and. Yes, Clay, coffee. Thank you. Craggy coffee. Because we did look into getting coffee from Hawaii. Like everything else in Hawaii, it is muy expensivo. It is very. Is that actually how you say it in Spanish? I don't even know. It is very. Probably not.
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Clay Travis
Probably unlikely, but it's.
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Buck Sexton
I think I just made translate if that's not. I don't speak any Spanish, so I.
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Clay Travis
Feel good about the moi, but I don't know.
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Buck Sexton
Right. I leaned into the muy. But the rest of it, I took French and Arabic in school, so you can make of that what you will. Anyway, there's these new trade deals. BS for Crockett Coffee. That's always exciting to go subscribe crockett coffee.com because the tariffs are gonna affect the price of coffee just like it's affecting a lot of other things right now. You see, you've also got J.D. vance weighing in on the housing crisis. Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War. I have to keep saying it just so that it gets redone in my mind, you know, so that everyone doesn't have to keep on sending in. It's the Secretary of War now. I know, but it's been a long time. And I used to work with DoD folks and I used to. I used to brief the Secretary of Defense on occasion. You know, it' not really something that comes that naturally to me. So I'm working on it. But Hegseth has announced an operation to remove narco terrorists from our hemisphere. So it feels like that is something that is going to be heating up. We've already discussed some of the deployments of US Military forces into the Caribbean, way more than we've seen in a very long time. And then, of course, Clay, we have the designation of antifa abroad as an international terrorist organization. That's something we should discuss. But first up, I did want to just dive into this Caroline Levitt off the top rope here on the Schumer shutdown. And I do think it will be known increasingly to everybody as the Schumer shutdown because it was very much pushed by Chuck Schumer and some of the Democrats around him. But here is the White House press secretary. Play cut one.
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White House Press Secretary (Caroline Levitt)
President Trump and Republicans shellacked Chuck Schumer and the entire Democrat Party after 43 of Chuck standing out there trying to bravely hold the country hostage and inflict massive pain on the American public. Chuck got absolutely nothing. And now the knives are out for him. The Democrat Party is in complete disarray. And the truth is they have been for 10 years since President Trump came on the political scene. They ran Senator Gillibrand and Senator Manchin out of town. Now they're running Chucky Schumer out of town. It's too bad he turned into a Palestinian. He did it for nothing.
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Buck Sexton
There you go. That was last night on Fox Clay. I do think that the Democrats, this is a big L for them. This is a big, a big loss going up on the board. Although they could point to these elections, I think they were going to win those elections anyway. Honestly, I don't think there were any surprises. These are Democrat states or at least Democrat momentum in a place like Virginia.
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Clay Travis
I think J. Jones is the only one where you look at and you say, boy, this was disgusting. I mean, the, the attorney general who said that he wanted to kill his political opponents, kids and piss on their graves. I'm not sure what the official standard for behavior is, but I would say, yeah, you know, that's a tough one to get past. And I think, candidly, I don't think Republicans would have voted for someone who said that. I mean, there's been a lot of evidence. You can go to Alabama, for instance, where the Democrat candidate won. Remember Roy Moore? There were the, the hit pieces that came out against him, the judge that would have won. And then the Washington Post came out and had a story about his alleged involvement with young girls. And I'm not trying to re litigate that case in any way. I'm just saying in Alabama, which is a deep red state, as a result, a, a Democrat ended up winning that Senate seat, that was Republicans saying, yeah, we can't roll with this. I think good, decent, honorable, reasonable Democrats should have said, yeah, we'll stick with Jason Mears. He's already the existing Attorney General. And we shouldn't reward people who say things like what Jay Jones said. Now, the dark side of that election is some Democrats actually may have voted for him because he said that, which is meaning, you know, not only were they looking past what he said, some of them said, you know what, I agree with him. There was a great Trump Derangement Syndrome article in yesterday's Wall Street Journal, Buck saying that it basically meets all the clinical definitions of it was a psychiatrist basically walking through that Trump Derangement Syndrome is real and that and not insubstantial. Number of people out there have lost the ability to be rational and reasonable in any way based on their antipathy for Trump. And I think that's true for a lot of people out there, and it happened in the AG's race.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's also really important to note that my book, which is coming out in February, which is called Manufacturing Delusion and available for pre order right now on Amazon, Clay goes into exactly that. How do you make people politically crazy, as in delusional and not able to see reality? And clearly Trump Derangement Syndrome is the most apparent manifestation of that that we see right now. There was the COVID madness, there's the trans stuff, there's a whole bunch of things. But there is a clear ability, and it unfortunately is very prominent in America these days, to make a lot of people really nuts in the service of a political agenda to believe crazy things. And that is very scary because it is when people believe untrue and crazy things that terrible things happen to societies. Go get the preorder now. Manufacturing Delusion. That's what we call it. That's what I just did.
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Clay Travis
Right before this show. I did a fun Zoom podcast show with Will Kane, who obviously has a show on Fox News now, your longtime friend. But we talked a lot about the delusion. If you had been a diehard sports fan, Buck, I think you would have seen so much of the delusion going on in the world of sports. And certainly saying men can be women is part of it. But even just going through it was fun to kind of go through some of these crazy stories. Over the last week there have been a lot of just Jussie Smollett style stories made up in sports. LeBron, for instance, for those of you out in LA, you'll remember this, it almost gets no attention. He, I think falsely claimed that somebody scrolled a racial slur on his $20 million mansion in LA, the Brentwood area of LA. And I went through and did investigation, called the police, asked for police reports, the kind of things that someone who is in media should do. And the LA police just dropped that case and said we'd have found no evidence that there was ever a crime committed. Most people have no idea that happened because at least Fox News exists in the world of politics. The New York Post exists. There are entities that will kind of go and shepherd and look into stories like these. Now outkick does. Certainly there are hardly anything in sports where people will actually ask these questions and say, wait a minute, LeBron, Jussie smolletted that entire racial slur on the Gate story. Yes, I think the evidence is that he did, but because nobody covered it, it is kind of Just a vanishing story. Remember the Bubba Wallace noose story that everybody.
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Buck Sexton
That was a mass hysteria for sure. Correct. Absurd.
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Clay Travis
That NASCAR was super racist and that some guy decided, hey, I'm going to send a message, we're going to have a noose in Bubba Wallace. And then the FBI got called in, the FBI and they did a big investigation and they were like, this has been here for years. And it's actually a common way to tie a knot. That was the conclusion. It's just I think these things would tie in well with your book. But yeah, I hope we're coming out of them, but I'm a little bit afraid that we might not.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I, I even, there's even a whole trans chapter and of course deal with the Riley Gaines situation and that guy who was a girl who's. Or pretended to be a girl to swim. And the fact that people go along with this stuff. And I'll say this, the fact that people sit around and pretend like Donald Trump is Hitler is crazy and that then that there are news shows where they still talk about the rise of fascism and they speak about Trump in a way that is meant to terrify emotionally and psychologically weak people. Now, I mean that it is not meant to amuse them. It is meant to terrify the psychologically weak in the audience of the New York Times. And there's a lot of neurotic people often confuse IQ with psychological strength. Not true at all. A lot of very high IQ people actually have tremendous difficulties dealing with the world around them.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Famously you could see like that guy Nash from A Beautiful Mind. And we've seen movies about this, others, the, the correlation between even genius and delusion and psychological issues. Howard Hughes. I mean there's all kinds of stuff, right. Where you can point to this and see my point here is that there are a lot of very psychologically fragile people who have coalesced. And this is true. If you look at things like heavy SSRI usage, you look at rates of self described depression, anxiety, all this clay, it clusters on the left side of the political aisle.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And so their media apparatus is constantly feeding into their neuroses and their actual phobias. They have. There are Trump phobic people out there. I had a friend in college, a good friend of mine who was always a lib, he texted me, he's like, what are you going to do when the stormtroopers are pulling you and like your friends off the street? And I felt bad for him because I'm like, you really think that that's going to happen. You live in an alternate universe.
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Clay Travis
They really do. And the delusional nature of this, I think many of you, here's the positive. I think there are tons of you out there listening right now that have come to see the truth. And I think every day and every week and every month we add a few more people out there in sanity world. And the reason that I would be optimistic about this, some of you would say, okay, Clay, what are you basing that optimism in the number of people who didn't vote Trump in 2016 that by 2024 did vote Trump. It is an extraordinary increase in Trump support. And you know, you go back to 2016, I think it was 64 million ish people voted for Donald Trump. A lot of those people over the years ahead have, have passed away. So we probably have added 20 million Trump voters between 2016 and 2024. That's a sign that sanity will win. But, boy, it's been a battle, Buck. And that's what I come back to and just look at optimistically, is we probably have seen between 2016 and 2024, around 20 million of you, many of whom are listening to us right now, were not Trump voters in 16. And by 24, they said, I can't, I can't continue in the trajectory that the nation has been going on. This is an optimistic thought for you and I hope those same people show up in 26 and certainly in 28, too. You could live in a country busy, very busy city. You could live all over the country. It doesn't even matter where you are. But you could find yourself in danger in a relatively short period of time. And sabre can help provide non lethal opportunities to protect yourself out there with their pepper gel projectile launcher shaped like a pistol or a rifle, depending on the model, fires off pepper gel. Projectiles targeted go a long distance, longer distance than you might think, making it effective against an intruder. Saber is spelled sabre. The website is saberradio.com all their products are right here. Number one pepper spray brand trusted by law enforcement. You want the right devices available in your home and you want to get hooked up. We have every single one of these devices in our home. I love this company. Family owned. Go check them out yourself. Non lethal options sabre radio.com that's S A B R E radio.com 844-824 safe 844-824 safe making America great again isn't.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We hope all of you are having a great Friday. We're go head out to la, talk with the California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, friend of ours about the situation in LA as Gavin Newsom attempts to elevate his profile and argue that he's done a good job out in California. We'll see what the latest is there. But as we begin the second hour of the Friday edition of the program, I teased this which has happened in the last hour or so, President Trump on Truth Social posts as follows. Now that the Democrats are using the Epstein hoax involving Democrats not Republicans, to try and deflect from their disastrous shutdown and all of their other failures. I will be asking AG Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice, together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, JP Morgan Chase, and many other people and institutions to determine what was going on with them and him. This is, I'm reading from President Trump, another Russia, Russia, Russia scam with all the arrows pointing to the Democrats. Records show these men and many others spent large portions of their life with Epstein and on his island. Stay tuned. Triple exclamation points. All right, so Buck, you and I earlier this week said beyond a shadow of a doubt what I believe is true and what I've seen many other people, even begrudgingly people on the left come around and discuss, which is President Trump's association with Epstein was dropped at the time that it was earlier this week to try to distract from the fact that Democrats had enacted a disastrous shutdown and had suddenly decided they needed to bend the knee. And as a result, they were trying to basically just distract from a storyline that otherwise would be told associated with their own failures. Um, I've said for a long time, and we'll open up the phone lines, 800-282-2882. It's Friday. You guys can weigh in on this if you would like. I've said for a long time, if President Trump were involved in any kind of significant way with Jeffrey Epstein, do you think Joe Biden would have sat on it for four years while he was trying to bankrupt President Trump, while they were going through Melania's underwear drawer at Mar? A Lago, while they were charging him with criminal offenses in South Florida and in New York and in Georgia and all of these places? Do you really think that they would have been in the situation where they were just not paying attention to wrongdoing, that Trump was involved with Epstein? It's crazy. It doesn't add up.
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Buck Sexton
I totally co sign on that. And I would add to it, Clay, you could even take a few steps back and say, is it likely that maybe, just maybe, the one figure who has done more to defeat the forces of the demonic left than anybody else in America in the last decade, that they lied about in every imaginable way, the Russia collusion hoax, they were telling everybody that he was working with Putin on some secret Kremlin nonsense? You know that the lies that they have told about Donald Trump are completely absurd. They lied about all that and Then they brought four bogus criminal prosecutions. The guy almost made it to 80 years old, never once indicted for anything. Then four, all held to coincide with an election year. And then also civil suits brought, including, I mean, the Letitia James one, was preposterous beyond words. What is more likely that this is yet another effort to lie about Donald Trump, to try to bring him down or even just to slow him down a bit? I don't think. I think they know they're not going to bring him down, but to slow him down politically or. Clay, after all of those lies, they finally found the one. They found the smoking gun in the Epstein files that they've had for many, many, many years and gone through a million times already. Give me a break. Like, this is just. This is absurd. This is not serious. People cannot make this argument to me and be taken seriously.
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Clay Travis
Correct. And so Trump is now saying, okay, if you want to aggressively go back into the Epstein story, why would we.
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Buck Sexton
Not.
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Clay Travis
Why would we not decide that we're going to actually go to. What is the real only mystery I think of Epstein at this point, which is how did he actually get all the money that he had? And I understand some people out there are like, oh, you know, you don't really break down the difference of wealth, but there's a big difference between being worth ten million dollars and being worth a hundred million dollars. And there's a big difference between being worth a hundred million dollars and five hundred million dollars or seven hundred million dollars. And as you get up in those big numbers, it becomes almost impossible to be worth $500 million or more. And they're not to be a really traceable way that your wealth exists now. Maybe you inherited it. There's lots of super rich people out there that inherit vast sums of money that occurs and. But that's connected to, at some point, a windfall that someone in the family got. You're a Walton heir because Sam Walton did what he did with Walmart. You're an heir of the Rockefellers or of, of the Gettys or any of these numbers of these families that are just.
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Buck Sexton
That's the easiest wealth imaginable to trace because it's already been traced before you get it. Everybody already knows.
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Clay Travis
So. But you can't. But I'm just here to tell you, you can't be worth over $500 million without typically there being something that you created, something massive that you owned and you sold. Except for Jeffrey Epstein. How is he so incredibly wealthy despite the fact that he's never really created Anything. He's never founded a company that was wildly successful. He's never made, you know, he's not a hedge fund guy who has multi, billions of dollars that he's managing and he's taken a share of it just doesn't add up. And so Trump is asking, hey, how about these banks start to explain some of these transactions? And I think that's a really great question because, Buck, I will tell you, the banks typically pay a lot of attention if a million dollars is being wired from one place to another. I was looking and reading about this. There were times when there were tens of millions of dollars being wired around to Epstein. Some of these transactions were over $100 million.
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Buck Sexton
Buck.
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Clay Travis
What in the world is going on here?
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Buck Sexton
Have you ever, have you ever seen the, the place that was raided on the Upper east side in the 70s?
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Clay Travis
Have you ever watched that spectacular.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I, so I grew up a few blocks from there and I always knew, growing up, growing up there that the townhouses between Madison and Fifth Avenue in the 60s, the 70s and some of the 80s truly used to belong to industrial barons of the turn of the century. I mean, some of them, they're now museums or they're embassies or, you know, they've transformed a lot of them. But the ones that are still lived in by people, I think they say that that house that he lived in was a 60 to 80 million dollars townhouse. If you, It's a true mansion, a mansion in one of the most expensive per square foot real estate places on the planet. And he was given it. He didn't purchase it. It was given to him. That's a very strange move. And you look at a lot of the other things here too. Look, this, this guy, there's the idea that they're going to be able to get away with not having more transparency on this, I think is just, that's just going to fall by the wayside. They're going to. Because now the Democrats have opened and they're selectively picking, oh, what about this? What about this? Trying to insinuate things. There's no, there's no wrongdoing of any kind in anything they've released. They're just, oh, so and so said this. They're releasing selective hearsay from Epstein in order to try to make. At some level I'm annoyed because now it is working and that we're all talking about this instead of the huge Democrat failure to shut down. We're talking about this instead of, instead of affordability, which Democrats want that's going to be the, as I said, you're going to hear about that until we're all just so sick of the word. But you know, used to be pay your fair share. That was the thing we were, we were hearing from Democrats ad nauseam in the Obama era. Pay your fair share. Pay your fair share. It's going to be affordability. But Clay, when Trump weighs in on this one, I think he might have wrong footed some of his critics here because why, why can't we, on what basis could we be excluded from seeing the financials of all of this?
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Clay Travis
That's a great question. So one I've been asking for a long time.
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Buck Sexton
That's always the thing that has not added up to me at all. And that's always the component of this that I've heard people say, oh, we know. And I, then I always say, well, but the public doesn't know. We should know what happened here. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Right? I mean they went after Donald Trump with 34 felony charges for a bookkeeping, not even error, just keeping the books the way he wanted to over, what was it? 150 grand?
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Clay Travis
Oh, basically, yes.
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Buck Sexton
Right. It wasn't like something like that. It was like 100 something grand for the, for the, you know, the NDA payment. And they don't, they can't tell us this. The idea that he was a financial advisor too. I know something about this. I know some financial advisors. 1% is pretty standard in the industry. Please don't call and say, buck, I'll get you a great deal. You know, we, I'll do half a percent. Right. I'm just saying about 1% is usually what an asset manager for individuals will take. Some will take two. But that can be a little, you know, that's all that people will say. That feels like a lot, especially over time. How do you get from I manage assets for really, for really wealthy people as Jeffrey Epstein's to I'm worth $600 million that Clay, they have found correct. This guy was operating at a level of wealth and sophistication. I'm sure there was money stashed in accounts that has not been found.
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Clay Travis
And his argument, because I've read this, the argument seems to be that he was really good at finding tax avoidance strategies. Okay. There are lots of those guys out there that are pretty good at finding tax avoidance strategies. And I read some of these emails where he's saying, hey, I expect to be paid $80 million this year. It just doesn't add up. And so I give Trump credit here. I think this is a, this is a move that's going to make some people.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just.
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Clay Travis
Particularly these banks.
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Buck Sexton
I just want to say the first thing that comes up from Grok, okay, For anyone who says, oh it's shut up. This is known or this is the first you grok, I will say this is a big thing for me, Clay. I always wondered when am I. When are those. Are those leftists at Google going to lose my search business? They have. I grok now over Google every time. If I'm just looking for basic information. I grok over Google every time. I went into grab, which is the X AI search for any of you don't have it. It's very useful, I'm gonna tell you. And it gives very good information. I use it for a whole range of things. And I am an. I am an investor. Just a full disclosure. I'm an investor also in Xai. But here's what comes up. The origins of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth remain one of the most debated and opaque aspects of his life. No definitive, fully documented explanation has been made public. Much of what is known has come from court documents, investigative reporting and statements by people who knew him. Clay. No definitive explanation has been made public. That is unacceptable. That is unacceptable. I mean they clearly could where. Where who was giving him the money.
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Clay Travis
And there's been a financial accounting on his death because when you die, obviously as a part of the. The will and the estate, they have to figure out what your assets are. There have been the huge lawsuits. So the Epstein victims have gotten paid out substantial, like over a hundred million dollars, I think among other dollars. I think it's even more than that. So there's been a financial settlement of some sort there. But yeah, how the money ever got there, nobody can really explain how he went. From a guy buck. He worked as a teacher at a Manhattan private school. So I mean he had no money.
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Buck Sexton
Right?
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Clay Travis
I mean I. We probably got some teachers out there listening in Manhattan right now.
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Buck Sexton
He faked his credentials to get that job too. And this guy's been a fraudster his whole life. In addition to everything else, he ends.
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Clay Travis
Up being worth hundreds of millions of dollars. It just again, it does not add up. And I think a lot of you out there, they've skipped over where the money came from that allowed him to even have this lifestyle. But I think it's the most important question out there. So Trump is saying now, and Trump has no love loss for a lot of these banks because they debanked him as Eric Trump has come on and talked about with us, suddenly the Trump Organization after his first term couldn't even have bank accounts. So good for him. I like this move.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis BUCK Sexton show. We are joined now by our friend, candidate for governor of California, Republican candidate for governor Steve Hilton. And Steve, we appreciate you giving us the time here on a Friday as I know you're campaigning all over the state. What is the latest on the rebuild in la? And I believe there is the answer is virtually nothing. But how much are you hearing from people that are just fed up over the inability of people to rebuild the homes that they lost in the wildfires? Coming up on nearly a year ago now.
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Steve Hilton
So I laughed because it's laughable, Clay. It's just unbelievable. Apologies. It's a For the noise. I'm on the road. I don't know if you can hear. We're in the middle of a very major storm, pouring with rain. Rain, of course, which Gavin Newsom and the idiots in charge are going to let run out into the ocean instead of storing it and getting it to our great ag industry. I'm in the central valley of the farmland all around me. Not going to get this water because they're going to send it out to the ocean to protect the delta smelt. That's another story on the Palisades. It's laughable. They haven't done anything. All the time I'm there hearing from people who are so incredibly frustrated, they get just sent from one ridiculous bit of bureaucracy to the next. They go to the building department. It's a different person each time. They say, we can't give you a permit until you get your insurance. You go to the insurance. They say, we can't give insurance until you get a permit. I mean, it's just round and round. This is all months after Karen Bass ludicrously made an announcement saying, I have just signed an executive order streamlining permitting to help rebuild L. A. Nothing's happened and here's the reason why. When you actually look behind that. I actually watched the video of the press conference where she made that announcement. Here are the words she actually spoke. I have just signed an executive order tasking agency heads with developing paths forward to streamlining permitting. There, in a nutshell, you have the explanation as to why nothing works in California. You've got these ridiculous machine politicians who have no clue how anything works, never done a real job in their lives, no understanding of how to make change happen. Totally ideologically driven, not practical. And that's why we're in such a mess. That's why. Last bit of news for you today. Just seen a poll just come out showing me in the lead in the governor's race ahead of all the candidates, including all the Democrats. People are sick of this nonsense in California and it's time for change. We're going to get that change next year.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that was the next place I wanted to go with you, Steve, which is you have to think that at some point the people have suffered enough, regardless of where they're ideologically aligned. At some point you just want stuff to work. At some point, you just want to be safe. You're sick of waiting in lines that never get Anything done anyway. And I was wondering if you could speak to what we saw in San Francisco recently. It came to our attention that the mayor of San Francisco now isn't some Republican, not a MAGA guy, but isn't completely certifiably insane and was willing to take a more reasonable approach toward Trump's offer of trying to assist in the cleanup. So do you view that as indicative of what's going on more statewide, where people are seeing the craziness for what it is? Is that more specific to San Francisco? I wanted your take on what's going on up there.
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Steve Hilton
Yeah, no, it's really interesting. I mean, the mayor you're speaking about, Daniel Lurie, he's a friend of mine, I've known him for years. He's a Democrat, but he's a non crazy Democrat, let's use that term. And he's definitely the kind of person that, you know, he's focusing on practical things. He's not an ideologue. There's another mayor less well known in San Jose, just the other end of the San Francisco Bay, Matt Mahan, who's also got that more pragmatic approach. So you've now got the Bay Area with two major mayors who are in that category. And it does show that people are waking up now. The Bay Area, obviously very heavily Democratic. And so it's not surprising that you're going to have Democrats elected there. A Republican really wouldn't be able to make it work in the Bay Area, I think, however, statewide, I think that exact same mood that I'd say desperation for change is what will help me win next year as governor, as a Republican, because across the state, it's a much more Republican state actually than people think. The base Republican vote in California been pretty steady for the last 20 years or so. It's just over 40%. So that's a gap that is big, but it's not unbridgeable. And the scale of their failure, every single measure you look at, we are the worst performing state in America. Highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest cost, insurance, rent, home prices, the worst business climate in America 10 years in a row, according to Chief Executive Magazine, US News and World Report rankings 50th out of 50 for affordability, 50th out of 50 for opportunity. The worst reading scores in the country. I mean, it just goes on and on. They failed on every front and people are really sick of it. The difference this time is they're going to have a really strong, clear, common sense, positive alternative that I'm laying out there, $3 gas, your electric bills cut in half, a home you can afford to buy your first hundred thousand of income free of state income tax. They've never, it's going to be a real shock to them, I think, to face a candidate like me who's got the business experience, the government reform experience, the media platform, they to take them on and I'm going to take them apart and I'm really looking forward to it.
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Clay Travis
Isn't it interesting, Steve? That was all really well laid out. There are lots of states that have Democrats and Republicans involved that can be successful. So there are tons of red states that basically have just said, hey Democrats, thanks but no thanks. Maybe they still have power in some way a little bit. Like in Nashville area where I live, which is deep red state, but Nashville's a little bit blue. But anything that Democrats completely control, that is where there is no alternative party. You have abject failure. Do you get the sense, like it doesn't mean that Californians have to believe that Republicans have all the answers, but just to say, hey, maybe a monolithic commitment to Democrats is not getting us the best possible result. Are you picking up on that when you're traveling around the state and making your arguments?
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Steve Hilton
I was just about to say exactly that, Clay, which is that, you know, and I get real, you know, when we do our town halls and have meetings, real nodding along when I make the point that, look, we've now had 15 years of one party rule. They've controlled every statewide office, super majority in the legislature, all the big cities and the big counties. Next year it'll be 16 years of party rule. And I say, look, you don't have to become a Republican. Let's just agree it's not healthy to have one party rule for so long. It never is, never works anywhere. So let's just have a bit of balance. Even when I'm elected governor as a Republican, frankly looking at, you know, we're going to fight for every Republican candidate and I'm actively on the road supporting other Republicans at every level because we got to elect more Republicans. But it looks like they'll still have certainly a majority, probably still a super majority in the legislature. So it's just a bit of balance that we're looking for. That argument I think goes over very well. I've seen it on people's faces and it's part of the story.
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Buck Sexton
I don't know, Steve, if you sat through the pretty positive spin, but the, the Schwarzenegger Netflix bio movie that they made a couple maybe it was a year or two ago. Anyway, I bring it up because. Oh, ok, you have seen it. I bring it up because one thing that the governator, as we all call him, who was at least theoretically a Republican, something that he said is once he got into office, that it was impossible to do anything because the machinery of the state, the government bodies, regulatory agencies, public sector unions statewide, are so powerful and so entrenched that you can't really do anything. What do you say to that? How could you break. I'm sure there's some truth to that, but how do you break through that if you're given a mandate by the people of California as governor?
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Steve Hilton
Well, the difference is, and Arnold's a good friend of mine, I've known him for 20 years. The difference is that I will go into this with government reform experience. So I was senior adviser to the prime minister in the uk, My office right next to the Cabinet room there. I'm not saying it's a direct read across, of course not. But it's a similar sized economy and government bureaucracy. And neither am I saying that what we did there, remember, I wasn't the decision maker. I was senior adviser with some perfect success. Far from it. But I learned how the system works. I learned how bureaucrats work and how incredibly aggressive you need to be in order to make change happen. The other lesson, you compare President Trump this time around to the first time around, the years that were spent running up to 2024, getting ready, having the executive orders drafted, the personnel decisions made, the legal arguments clarified and ready to go. I'm doing that work right now on a whole range of issues. Look, we don't have a massive team or resources like President Trump had in between 2020 and 24, but that work is vital. I'll give you a really specific example, one that is very close to your heart. For example, the issue of biological boys in girl sports. So I went to the track and field championships in Clovis, actually here in the Central Valley, back in the summer when that scandal popped up again. And I didn't just want to complain about it, I wanted to lay out what I would do about it. And so part of my one of the people on my team is Governor Pete Wilson's top legal advisor. And I said to him, look, how are we going to deal with this? That scandal of biological boys in girls sports and locker rooms all goes back to a law that was passed in 2013, AB 1266. Now, we did the work on that and it turns out that the governor has the power to initiate a process to overturn legislation that violates the California state Constitution. We think that law violates the Constitution in two specific places. Section 28, Section 31. I won't go into the details, but it's a good example of how if you're properly prepared and ready for battle, with the right attitude, I think you really can do a lot. The governor's role is much more powerful than people think. You appoint thousands of people to hundreds of state agencies and you can direct their work. That's how I'm going to open up the oil industry so we get $3 gas. That's how I'm going to end the scandal of these extortionate lawsuits that are crippling every small business. There's a whole range of things where actually by appointing the right people, kicking out the idea logs and the kind of bureaucrats and putting common sense people into these agencies, you can make change happen pretty quickly.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just real quick on the lawsuits. I know about this from friends, Steve, who just sell products nationwide that even if you're selling something as straightforward as, like food, that California, there are these troll law firms and all they do is bring suits for the most, you know, if you don't have that, there's some like, carcinogen that theoretically exists in the, you know, the beats that you're selling. They'll sue you in California.
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Steve Hilton
Exactly. And by the way, why? It's another example of the corrupt, rotten system in California, because trial lawyers, if you look at the donations to Democrat politicians, specifically Gavin Newsom, by category, the number one donor to Gavin Newsom over his years in office in California, government unions. Number two, trial lawyers, not surprising. And they. And the same with the legislature. So they create all this legislation that creates opportunity for litigation. So that's another thing you got to fight and be ready for because it's crippling businesses of all sizes and in all sectors. And as someone who's run a business, I used to run restaurants. It's a nightmare business at the best of times. In California, it's the absolute worst because of these people and what they're doing. But we really can change this. I mean, for example, there's something called the Private Attorney General act, which was passed in 2004 in California. Sounds obscure, but if you're in a restaurant or a bar or a farm or anything, you're being hit by these extortionate lawsuits all the time. And you have to settle and it costs you hundreds of thousands of dollars, sometimes millions of dollars a year. It's basically a cost of doing business. I've got a plan to end that pretty much overnight by actually understanding how that law is supposed to work, appointing a labor commissioner who's going to be on the side of business, who can make the whole thing go away without any recourse to the legislature. So there's actually a lot of things you can get done if you really know what you're doing and you're properly prepared.
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Clay Travis
Steve Quick, on the way out here, have you seen any impact on the California governor's race based on mom Donnie winning in New York City? Did it sort of rustle the, the, the, the, the Democrats out there to think way maybe we're going farther left wing than I thought? I know there's a lot of cross pollination between New York City and la, in particular San Francisco, to any reaction that you've seen in California from that win?
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Steve Hilton
Well, I don't know what, I don't know what category to put this in, Clay, but the latest news on the governor's race is our friend Eric Swalwell is about to jump in the race we hear next week. So I don't know whether he's sensing an opportunity here. I can't decide who I'd rather face, Swalwell with the endless opportunity for fang fang jokes or Katie Porter with the endless opportunity for mashed potato jokes. It's a tough choice, that one.
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Buck Sexton
There we go. All right, Steve, when do we see you on the debate stage? When does this thing heat up in California? You're going to be next summer. When does it actually happen? When does it come together?
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Steve Hilton
The primary is in June. The filing deadline is March. So I would imagine that, you know, March is probably the kickoff when we know exactly who all the candidates are going to be.
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Buck Sexton
We look forward to you laying it straight for fang Fang and mashed potatoes and all the rest. Thank you so much, Steve. Great to have you on.
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Steve Hilton
Fantastic. Great to be with you.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome in third hour, the 15th hour of the week, Clay and Buck. Don't worry, there'll be 15 more hours next week, but we are excited to dive into more with all of you. Also, we like to go heavy on the talkbacks and the calls for the latter half of the third hour. I want to hear from all of you and all the ways that we can, so check that out. And also subscribe to our YouTube, everybody. We're going to be doing more and more video and hoping to even get closer and closer to more exciting video projects that will launch next year. That I hope that was vague but exciting. That's right, Clay. That's the way to do it. A little vague.
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Clay Travis
Vague but exciting is a great, great phrase.
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Buck Sexton
That's the move. That's how you got to do it. Immediate, all the time. It's a little bit like my. My conspiracy podcast that I want to start where I just say the craziest stuff possible. When people ask me for my sources, I'm just like, I just have a feeling. I've heard from somebody who heard from somebody who had a feeling. I'm sorry, I can't reveal my sources to you. Like, you just. Just take people in wild directions, see what happens. But something else that is on my mind here. As we had the designation of here, this was this. This actually happened today. The State Department, from the official account. Here you go. Anarchist militants have waged terror campaigns in the United States and Europe, conspiring to undermine the foundations of Western civilization through their brutal attacks. The State Department will designate these four antifa groups as FTOs. Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Antifa Aust is a terrorist organization based in Germany, wielding hammers on. On unsuspecting victims. They were named a terrorist organization by Hungary after attacks in Budapest. The International Revolutionary Front in Italy. Coalition of violent anarchists. Armed Proletarian Justice. A Greek anarchist group. Revolutionary Class Self Defense in. Also in Greece. So they're.
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Steve Hilton
Clay.
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Buck Sexton
They've named all these European antifa wings as foreign terrorist organizations. Fto. That's a. That means once you are an fto, the US Government's ability and tools to deal with you are considerable. They are fearsome on the financial side, on the legal side, and even on the kinetic side of things when. When the situation calls for it. So that is a major escalation and the notion that antifa. Remember when the FBI director under Biden said Antifa was an idea.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
That was a particularly low moment for a very. Brought low.
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Clay Travis
FBI.
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Buck Sexton
FBI under. Under. Under Patel and Bongino are. They're fixing things. Um, I, I believe actually we'll have.
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Clay Travis
Do we.
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Buck Sexton
Guys, do we have a Director Patel on next week? We've been meaning to. Yes, we do. We have Director Cash Patel will be with us next week. If you have questions that you want us to ask him, you can send those in, I might add. So we'll pick some of the best ones if we can. If we have time with him. He's a very busy man. They're trying to fix the FBI, Clay. That's going on. Then there's also this and I think it ties in because Antifa is a bunch of anti civilization lunatics. John Fetterman. And this has been true for a while. I'll take a step back and say this. Remember when Elon said that wokeness was really just an excuse for nasty people to be cruel and feel self righteous about it? You know there was some version if you guys can find that quote for me. But it was. I think he was. That was his Babylon Be podcast appearance with Seth Dillon. I think that's where he said it. And I'm. And that to me was. I was like this Elon guy. He gets it. That was. Yeah, He's a brilliant CEO. Do you remember that exchange?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I do. I 100%. I 100% remember it. And, and I do think, look, there are a lot of mean people on the Internet and you and I both made our livings on the Internet, so.
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Buck Sexton
We are quite nice to be fair. Like we. We poke fun and we call it out when we have to, but we don't get.
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Clay Travis
Also we don't say anything publicly that we would. There is no decision.
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Buck Sexton
You're a little saltier. Clay. Clay likes to mix it. Clay likes to sometimes break the beer bottle on the table and get into it with people. But you know, yeah, I don't mind.
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Clay Travis
When people are owning what they say under their real name. But one reason the Internet is so toxic is because so many people have anonymous accounts and just pile it all on. Having said that, I do think in the era that we live in now, the left is way meaner because there is a self righteousness that motivates their anger and their antipathy. And their idea is we're so right that we can be super mean to people. And Fetterman has seen it from both sides. And I thought this was A good clip.
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Buck Sexton
This is really interesting. It's CNN's Dana Bash saying that the left. I'm sorry, Fetterman telling CNN's Dana Bash saying that the left is just crueler than people on the right in America today. Play 8.
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John Fetterman
When I asked my digital team, I said, you know, you're. We're on all the platforms, you know, really what's, what's kind of the harshest? What's kind of the most personal? And the answer was immediate. He said, oh, blue sky is blue sky. And the difference is, I mean, the right would say really rough things and names, you know, some names I won't. I won't repeat on, on tv. But, but, but the, the on the left, it was like, they want me to die. Or that we're cheering for your next stroke or that's terrible. That depression want. Why couldn't it depression one and. And I hope your kids find you. I mean, they even have like the graphic a gift where they have like a stroke, you know. You know, in your head. Yeah. And they said that. I remember one. They claimed, oh, the doctor let us down. And why did they have to save his life? I mean, just really, like, I just can't imagine people are. Are wishing, you know, I wish he dies or I want him to die, you know, literally cheering for. For a stroke. And I don't know what the kind of a place where that comes from. I mean, that's, that's much different than just calling me a name, you know, and that's. That's really been consistent, you know, in that community online.
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Buck Sexton
Clay the online left embraces and celebrates a demonic viciousness that is reflected in the broader Democrat party. It is just reality.
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Clay Travis
Yes. And I think it has to do with the belief that they are good.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
It's really scary sometimes, and I encourage people to think about it. If you become convinced that you are 100% right on everything, then you are willing to dehumanize a lot of people. And I think the left is more like, I question every day I look at facts and I say, boy, did I get that right. I'm open to the idea that I'm wrong. I think partly that's legal training, where you have to be willing to look at the whole argument. You have to contemplate it. You have to think about precedent. I would encourage everybody out there be open to the possibility that you're wrong, because then you will analyze things in a fresh way as opposed to constantly reinforcing yourself. Buck. I read since we're talking About Fetterman, I want to expand this conversation because I do think this is important. Fetterman said the day after he won the Senate race that he thought about throwing himself off the bridge because he was so depressed as he was walking. And I do think for everybody out there who is, you know, listening to us right now, that was probably what most people would consider to be the apex of John Fetterman's professional life. And on the day that he won Senate reelection, Senate election, he was walking on a bridge, and he significantly contemplated just throwing himself off of it. And he said the only reason he didn't do it was because ultimately he couldn't stop thinking about his kids and that they were important in helping him come through the dark place that he was. There are a lot of people out there in very, very dark places. And I do think the conversation that Fetterman has opened up of, hey, try to get yourself well mentally and physically. We talk a lot about the Maha movement, which is. You've talked about this. Buck yourself like you got a young kid, hey, I want to be in shape. I want to be able to help raise that kid. I want to make sure that I'm trying to be the best version of myself. And all that stuff works from a physical perspective. Everybody's got to work on the mental, too. And I do think that a lot of people in the social media era, I think we're gonna go back. Everybody always thinks, you know, when you look back and you see people smoking on airplanes, or for those of us who grew up sometimes with a mom or a dad, you know, just smoking in a car with the windows rolled up, or we went into restaurants and they were like, hey, this is the smoking section and this is the non smoking section. Like, my kids look at that stuff and they think about how silly it is. We assume that we're doing things that are not toxic to ourselves because we get used to them. I think social Media, I think 20 years from now, 30 years from now, people are going to be looking back at what social media did to this country, and they're going to be saying, how in the world did we let this happen? And I just think if you use Fetterman as an example and this book that he's got, and we've invited him on the program. But imagine you win a Senate race, and because of the toxicity surrounding you, your depression is such that you think about throwing yourself off a bridge. I don't think that his perspective in that way was different than a lot of other people might Be even with success going on in life.
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Buck Sexton
Does that make sense? And how can you not have a deep human sympathy that completely supersedes politics for somebody who's going through that? Anyone who's ever been around someone who was close to them or they themselves have dealt with real depression, you would think, and I think that's almost. Once you get to a certain age, it's hard not to be in that category of somebody who's at least experienced, someone who is dealing with that. You would think that they would understand that there's a basic human connection, that we all have a sympathy for people, a revulsion at others suffering and pain. And for someone to not like betterment, stand on Israel and publicly wish him to have another stroke or to die or whatever these things are that he's pointing out, it goes to a lack of humanity. It's not about political disagreement anymore. It is. You have traded something from your soul. And this is why I went on Blue sky the night after Charlie, or the night of rather Charlie's assassination. I had to see it for myself. It. It was a. A deeply dark and disturbing rummaging through the wreckage of people's souls. It was really bad, Clay. It was really ugly. And that was people, a lot of them, under their own names, publicly. Some of them, you know, have, have followings, have platforms, I mean, to. To see what happened to Charlie. A father, a husband, a son, an American, a patriot. And this is the. If, if they're, God forbid, if there was a high profile assassination of a prominent Democrat activist or a prominent Democrat politician, and people of any note on the right were saying, you know, celebrating it in some capacity, I assure you, including on this program, their own side, our side would say, that's disgusting.
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Clay Travis
You're.
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Buck Sexton
You're a disgrace to the movement. You know, don't ever do something like that again. Yes, none of that on the left. None of it. They pretend like it doesn't happen or, or they pretend that they're on board. They're on board with it. Not even pretend they're on board with it.
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Clay Travis
And Fetterman himself, I mean, I think I'm glad we played that clip because I flagged that earlier this week. I saw it. You can say, okay, he has uniquely been in the crosshairs of criticism in both directions. I mean, look, I've said this on the program. I thought, and I said that he would be a completely ineffective senator and Dr. Oz should have won. I still think Dr. Oz would be a better representative for Pennsylvania, but I think John Fetterman is a reasonable, rational Democrat voice. And when he says even people who opposed him politically, that is Republicans have treated him better than Democrats, I take his word for it. I think it's true. And I do think that for anybody out there, what is it? Buck 21? Veterans kill themselves every day. I think much of the story that Fetterman is telling in this book is about how to deal with depression. Almost all those people are men. You can criticize John Fetterman for a lot. He seems like a normal dude in many respects, and I think that's why he has the appeal that he does. In Pennsylvania, he almost threw himself off a bridge, according to his own book, the day after he won the Senate race because of the immense cloud of depression that descended upon him. You know, get help. We, we've got a lot of resources out there. I think it's 21 veterans a day, almost all men. And, and look, I mean, there are people out there that will help you. And if you're in that world right now listening to us, get yourself well. There's nothing wrong with it.
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Buck Sexton
One of the sacrifices that our veterans have made that we all as Americans benefit from, obviously our freedom, our civilization, our way of life, our day to day lives. But also no community has done more in our generation, Clay, to destigmatize mental health problems, getting mental health assistance than the veterans. Yeah, no one has done more because if they need help for what they saw, it's okay. You know, it's okay for everybody to get help. It's okay for anyone to have problems because the bravest and the best of us, even they sometimes can require assistance. So it's one of those things that I know the people have very strong opinions about the G wad and what we did in Afghanistan, Iraq and all the rest of it. But one aspect of that sacrifice our veterans made that was. That has been, I think, very, very powerful and very positive for all of us is that you can say, I need help and it's mental and that's okay, and you should get it. And it's not weakness and it's not something that. But that brings me back to the Fetterman conversation, where that's actually a mental manifestation of it. Well, talking about the stroke, that's a mental manifestation of a physical ailment.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And his own side is. Is saying that wishing that he was dead. It's madness. Madness.
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Clay Travis
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