Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Nov 19 2025

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review

Episode Date: November 19, 2025
Podcast Host: Buck Sexton (Clay Travis calling in from Rome)
Notable Guest: Michael Watley, NC Senate candidate
Theme: Latest in news, politics, Epstein transparency, border/immigration issues, cultural shifts & a Vatican sports saga

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Overview

This episode covers the whirlwind of developing stories in American politics and culture, focusing especially on the Congressional passage of the Epstein Transparency Act (and what it could mean), chaos at the southern border and its local impacts, and a rather surprising storyline involving co-host Clay Travis’s meeting with the Pope in Rome. Buck Sexton steers the show, dissecting headlines with a mix of skepticism and humor, while Michael Watley calls in to spotlight North Carolina’s pivotal race and its intersection with nationwide immigration woes.

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Key Topics and Insights

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1. Epstein Transparency Act – Political Fallout, Skepticism, and Media Maneuvering

(02:03–19:22, 29:38–30:24)

• Congressional Action:
  • The House and Senate overwhelmingly passed the Epstein Transparency Act. Once signed, the Justice Department has 30 days to release Jeffrey Epstein-related files.
• Unanswered Questions:
  • Buck emphasizes the ambiguity and potential for ongoing redactions. “There may be further redactions... people will say that’s not gonna fly. That’s not good enough.” (05:19)
  • He fixates on the mystery of Epstein’s wealth, questioning, "How did he make this money? Why is it that there were some people in Epstein's orbit who were... unbelievably generous to him? Why?" (07:38)
• Follow the Money:
  • Subpoenas target Epstein’s financial records from major banks, with thousands of flagged transactions and little public understanding of their purpose.
• Partisan Framing:
  • Buck argues Democrats have weaponized the Epstein case to use against Trump, noting hypocrisy over their sudden concern:
    • “There’s something very grotesque about Democrats suddenly caring... It’s hard not to view it as posturing.” (11:18)
• Predicting the Outcome:
  • Buck predicts minimal revelations, dismissing the idea of a “smoking gun”:
    • “I do not believe there will be a smoking gun... the DOJ would have to admit that they were holding files that should have brought prosecutions...” (16:38)

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton:
  • “The money, I think, is the single best chance we have to get these answers.” (08:00)
  • “No matter what happens, this is all about getting Trump for the Democrats.” (10:52)
  • “Ask yourself this question... will there be an acceptance that this is everything that they really have? Will we ever get all the answers?” (16:04)

Timestamps:

• Epstein Act update/introduction: 02:50
• Follow the money: 07:30–09:00
• Partisan motives: 10:00–12:00
• Guest commentary/reader emails: 30:00

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2. Cross-Atlantic Call: Clay Travis in Rome (Meeting the Pope)

(23:22–30:24)

• The Secret Mission:
  • Clay Travis dials in from Rome, revealing his “top secret” trip: meeting with the Pope at the Vatican.
• Sports Diplomacy:
  • The pretext? To invite the Pope to throw out the first pitch at the Chicago White Sox’s planned new stadium—an idea sparked with the team’s new (and Clay’s former classmate) owner.
  • The team gifted the Pope a signed 2005 championship jersey.
  • The Pope was “excited” and “conditionally accepted” the invite, pending schedule.
• Personal Reflections:
  • Clay describes the public audience:
    • “He does all of his homily, his address in multiple different languages... We were up close to the stage.” (25:40)
  • For non-Catholics, “it’s just kind of cool to have an opportunity for the Pope to do something incredibly unique and awesome in the city.” (28:00)
• Buck’s banter:
  • “So you have met with the pontiff. You are not a Catholic, right, Clay?... For our Catholic audience, this is a really, really big deal.” (25:00, 25:18)

Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis:
  • “He seems really, really excited at the idea... I think he’s going to try and...he said he’s going to try and do it.” (28:46)

Timestamps:

• Clay joins: 23:54
• Pope meeting story: 24:00–29:00

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3. Border Crisis Hits Home: North Carolina Immigration Debate

(36:41–48:17) with Michael Watley

• Guest: Michael Watley (NC Senate candidate)
• Local Impact of National Crisis:
  • Buck introduces breaking news: In Charlotte, 21,000 students skipped school in one day due to ICE operations—about 15% of the district.
• Policy Clash:
  • Watley blasts Governor Roy Cooper for vetoing legislation requiring cooperation with ICE detainers, calling it a “revolving door” for violent criminal illegal aliens.
• Socioeconomic Cost:
  • Watley laments the “stupefying” costs:
    • “The societal costs for services for illegal aliens is absolutely stupefying.” (40:30)
• Election Stakes:
  • The NC Senate race is forecasted to be the “most expensive Senate race in the history of the country,” possibly $600-800 million spent.
• Crime & Safety:
  • Watley points to examples, like a murder case involving an illegal immigrant repeatedly released under Cooper’s “soft on crime” and cashless bail policies.
• Democrat Framing vs. Republican Response:
  • Buck plays Governor Josh Stein decrying “paramilitary” ICE tactics and “racial profiling,” which Watley labels as “far left, progressive” talking points.

Notable Quotes:

• Michael Watley:
  • "It is a dereliction of duty for Roy Cooper to veto legislation that would have forced [sheriffs] to honor ICE detainers." (38:19)
  • “We’re going to win this race even if we’re outspent, because we’re going to be focused on creating jobs and raising wages, keeping our kids and communities safe...” (42:46)
• Buck Sexton (re: Democrat talking points):
  • “Does he get all of his talking points from MSNBC? How does that work?” (43:52)

Timestamps:

• Michael Watley segment: 36:41–48:17

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4. Culture Corner: Marriage, Masculinity, and Generational Malaise

(53:13–67:51)

• New Data, Old Problem:
  • A Pew poll shows only 61% of 12th grade girls want to marry, while 74% of boys do.
• Cultural Diagnosis:
  • Buck blames "sex and the city" and "boss babe" messaging for leading young women to “act like men,” and to adopt values more typical of young men, at the expense of long-term happiness.
    • “Young women are not the same as young men... this is not a recipe for long-term happiness.” (54:00)
  • He critiques the push for women to pursue high-stress jobs as a path to fulfillment, rather than family.
• Masculinity under Fire:
  • Buck celebrates signs of a “masculinity renaissance,” with young men “turning away from the Democrat Party” and rediscovering traditional masculine roles.
    • “Young men are realizing toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense.” (62:09)
• Warning to Generations:
  • He laments lost time and purpose: “You have to care about things beyond yourself... otherwise you’ll just go through the scale of hedonic adaptation.” (61:31)
• Encouragement for Change:
  • Hopes young women will undergo their own “renaissance, a similar rebirth of understanding,” to avoid loneliness and regret.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton:
  • “The failure of what the Left is offering... the undermining and the hypocrisy of our culture of leftism and liberalism... young men see it and have had enough.” (61:54)
  • “Women have been greatly misled, and the damage is just beginning, I think, to set in for many of them.” (65:44)

Timestamps:

• Marriage and culture segment: 53:13–67:51

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Notable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• Epstein Files & Trump:
  • “No matter what happens with these files... you can never convince the people who have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that there’s not more to be found.” (13:48, Buck)
• Democrat Criticism:
  • “We are to believe that the Biden DOJ... had derogatory information about Donald Trump... but they didn’t release this. How does that add up?” (15:00, Buck)
• Papal Home Run:
  • "He said he's going to try and do it. So it could and should be a pretty awesome event." (28:56, Clay)
• Border Mayhem:
  • “North Carolina should not be a border state, but we are a border state.” (38:19, Watley)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Start | End | |-------------------------------------------|---------|---------| | Epstein Transparency Act | 02:03 | 19:22 | | Clay in Rome/Pope story | 23:22 | 30:24 | | Border issue/Michael Watley Interview | 36:41 | 48:17 | | Marriage & masculinity culture analysis | 53:13 | 67:51 |

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Summary

This episode deftly weaves together weighty congressional news about the Epstein case, exposes the political theater behind the transparency push, and cautions about cultural trends threatening the bedrock of American society. Against that, Clay Travis’s call from the Vatican offers comic and cultural relief, underscoring the show’s signature blend of hard-hitting commentary and big, improbable stories.
Listeners get clear analysis of why border and criminal justice politics are dominating debates—especially in battleground states like North Carolina—and why the culture wars around family, marriage, and gender haven’t gone anywhere.

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For New Listeners:
You’ll walk away with deeper context on the Epstein files saga, its intersection with presidential politics, and just how much border issues matter even far from the frontier. The show’s edgy, conversational style never lets the stakes feel abstract—and you’ll learn what happens when you try to get the Pope to throw a baseball in Chicago.

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Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Seeking information perhaps from the EPSTEIN ESTATE Because Mr. Blanche did not have that.

[Clay Travis]

Information when he interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell.

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What new information?

[Buck Sexton]

And would you limit the new investigation.

[Clay Travis]

To just those named persons that the President talked about?

[Buck Sexton]

Or is this a broad open ended investigation? I would refer to the deputy Attorney General's post that he put out on X. And we will, we're not going to say anything else on that because now.

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It is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New York.

[Buck Sexton]

A pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein financial records from JPMorgan Chase, Deutsche bank and the US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last 24 hours. Now. A few things here I can't tell you. I don't know, obviously. And none of you know. No one outside of a very small circle knows what is in this release that Donald Trump, I am very confident, is going to sign the final step, if you will, before the release. And then there's 30 days. So we're going to wait a bit. We're going to wait a bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days, but they have up to 30 days to release. Maybe it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say to myself, because, you know, and the House has already released 65,000 documents related to Epstein. You know very well that I have been pounding a certain drum on this issue of follow the money, follow the money. It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it should be unthinkable. Maybe a better way of putting it that we do not have a full accounting of how Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars. This guy did not create some new product. He did not found some company. He was not some, you know, hedge fund guy running $30 billion of other people's money. Or there are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice is not one of them. It's just not one of them. And so this then brings up, how did he make this money? Why is it that there were some people in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably. And I mean that in the real sense of can't believe it unbelievably generous to him. Why? The money, I think, is the single best chance we have to get these answers. According to the subpoenas that were just put out by the house, JPMorgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previously held by Epstein, flagging some 4,700 transactions as suspicious. Epstein held accounts and banked with Deutsche bank from 2013 until 2018. So they're going back in here into the money trail. And I sit here wondering how it is. And by the way, I want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How is it possible that we don't have a full and clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from, from? We've had a little bit here, a little bit there, but this should be obvious. And I might add, if it's somewhere already, if they have the flow chart of funds, if it's in the release, why haven't we already been given it? Why is it taking all of this pressure and all of this time? Why is it taking us to this place to be in a situation to finally get those answers? So there's more that is, that is coming out here now. I think you can pretty much set your watch to this one. No matter what happens here with the files, in terms of nothing, this is all about getting Trump for the Democrats. And there's something very grotesque about Democrats suddenly caring. They didn't care about this during the Biden administration, suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims, all of this, it's hard not to view it as posturing, because it is posturing meant to create the moral high ground from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump or at least the appearance of such a thing. No matter what happens with these files, I can assure you they will not say, you know, Trump is cleared, Trump didn't do any, didn't do anything. And so that also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so immediately in favor of the release. Because no matter how much transparency he offers, or rather he gives, and for a lot of people, I understand, this is a follow through on a campaign promise. So you want it irrespective of anything else. And that's very valid. And clearly Trump has decided that that's what's going to happen. This should have been done. I think a lot of people recognize now sooner a lot of you were calling in and demanding it, to which I just kept saying, yeah, I want more transparency. I don't have the files. Right. It's not in my power to release them. All we can do is air, as we did, our sense that there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered. And I think that that has certainly happened. I think that has certainly been a. A very real motivation here. Right? Telling people, having the Trump base come forward and say, we don't have the answers we want. We're not accepting anything else. It's time for this all to come clean. Now, Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one. He's saying that the President has nothing to do with it. Democrats are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this. They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't appear one more time in the files. Play Clip 1. This is a political exercise for Democrats, and it pains me to say it. I wish that was not the truth, but it is, and it's undeniable. This is as deceitful and dishonest as their pointless stunt was to shut the government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring and all of the. The abuses that they. That they made these young women go through. They're using that as a political weapon to try to distract from their failures as a party and to try their best to try to tie President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The president had nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed the vote today. I think that's where we are. I think the President is about to show all of his naysayers, detractors, haters. They're haters. They're not detractors, and they're deranged. In many cases. They hate him in a way that is. That is irrational and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy. Trump derangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say that it's enough. You can never convince the people who have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that there's not more to be found that would prove that Trump is really the bad guy. So just be prepared for that. And in fact, Chuck Schumer's out there saying already that this is. And this is cut three. One of the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency. This will go down as one of the most damaging moments of Donald Trump's presidency. In trying so hard to hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress and around the country. All the lying, all the broken promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown up in Donald Trump's face. His usual methods of intimidation and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance. So we are to believe, if you listen to Chuck Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately, you know, the whole Schumer shutdown disaster for him politically, people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball he used to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying this is such a disaster. We are to believe that the Biden doj, which was on a jihad against Trump, we are to believe that they had derogatory information about Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally politically motivated, but that they, they didn't release this. How does that add up? You know, they never really addressed this. They just didn't pay attention. It's not hard. You have all these files, especially now with AI. I'm going to tell you something. You could find Trump's name and find every reference to him in seconds doing a simple search and you could use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump adjacent in all these documents. So don't tell me, oh, they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the ability to figure this out. No, they're doing this because, for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful in completely changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, the selfishness and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown. They've already managed, you notice. Does it even feel like we had a month long government shutdown for no good reason except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it was years ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation. That's already happened. I can't stop it. You know, I wish I had the power to direct the whole national conversation. We've got millions of you who listen, but there's 350 million people in the country when you add all the illegals, something like that. So here we are, and we're going to see Trump, we're going to see Trump signing this and then there's going to be more files released and we'll continue to work through them. I do not believe there will be a smoking gun. I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show, which will be airing later today. And Pierce dramatically, strenuously disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are people who are going to go to prison over what's in the. I completely, I just don't see it. Because the DOJ then would have to admit that they were holding files that should have brought prosecutions for, for child sex traffickers. Really, the doj. I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe the DOJ would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's, that's quite a stretch. And then they're going to release it and have to say, oh yeah, we were covering up for these guys. Guys. Are people even going to accept this? Ask yourself this question. Ask it now. Are people going to accept, if they do put out all the stuff they've got in their possession, will there be an acceptance that this is everything that they really have? Will we ever get all the answers? This is the reality of this moment we find ourselves in. I want to take your calls. Take your talk backs on this 800-282-2882. I've been on the show for four years and pure Talk has been a steadfast part of the program. Gosh, it'll be five years in June. Little known fact, they wanted to be the first sponsor you heard when Clay and I came together to co host this program. So we totally appreciate them. We never forget that. Let me tell you though, about their best offer ever. This is about you. 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[Clay Travis]

I am in Rome. I'm overlooking the Tomb of Augustus and I got to go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to, to, you know, complete this, this idea that we had, which I think was a pretty cool one, to invite the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of this has has happened today. It's evening, getting ready to go out and have some wine and have a good dinner. But it was an awesome day. So that was the super secret trip. I didn't want to step on anything about the, about the process of getting that invite out to the Pope, but got to meet the ambassadors to Italy and the, and the Vatican City. Got to be there for the, for the offer to the Pope and There's video and, and footage I think that's going to be up on Outkick soon that we'll try to get shared with you guys.

[Buck Sexton]

So you. You have met with the pontiff. You are not. You're not a Catholic, right, Clay?

[Clay Travis]

I am not. Yeah. And you're not. And. But it was. It was a. Yes, but.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, certainly what I was gonna say is for.

[Clay Travis]

Of people, right, for our Catholic audience.

[Buck Sexton]

Is like a really, really big deal. You know, it would be amazing to. To be able to actually meet the Pope in person. What was it like? I mean, take us through this.

[Clay Travis]

So it's a.

[Buck Sexton]

Did he. Did he tell you that, you know, Nick Saban is the greatest of all time? Like, did he make a sports joke? Like, did he. Bless you. Take us. Take. Where did you see him? You got to give us some of these details.

[Clay Travis]

So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum sort of Pope address in many different languages, you know, with probably 10, 15,000 people, maybe more than that, in the, in the square outside of St. Peter's outdoor. It was a great weather. I believe they have a big public area down on the. In the, in the larger sort of plaza there. We were up close to the stage. He does all of his. All of his homily, his address in multiple different languages. And then afterwards, there are people that he greets. And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox happens to be a law school classmate of mine. And we were a couple of months ago, sitting around, trying to think of ways that he could introduce himself to the people of Chicago. And I had seen that JD Vance presents a Chicago Bears jersey to the Pope. And I said, you know what? We should. You should invite him to come and throw out the first pitch at a proposed new stadium that they are in the process of working through in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems like a good idea. And then the process of, okay, well, how do you get in touch with the Pope to be able to get a meeting? He seems really, really excited at the idea. He got a. For people out there who are sports fans, the Chicago White Sox won the World Series in 2005, and Pope Leo, obviously not the Pope, then, was in the crowd at the World Series.

[Buck Sexton]

And.

[Clay Travis]

And so he's a huge White Sox fan. And so my, my friend, the new owner, one of the new owners, soon to be officially the owner, got the whole team from 2005 to sign a White Sox jersey from that year and then also conveyed the offer to the Pope, you know, schedule permitting, for the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch when they open the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge, to Chicago since 1979. So, again, this happened early this morning in the Vatican and is becoming a big story, obviously, in Chicago. And I think a lot of people are finding it to be just a, you know, awesome, cool story in general overall, if you are, you know, there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything like that. But if you are a fan of sports, it's just kind of cool to have an American Pope and someone who is going to hopefully in the next couple of years, be able to come to Chicago and do something incredibly unique and awesome in the. In the city. So that's kind of.

[Buck Sexton]

So the offer was made, but we don't. We don't yet know if the Pope is going to be able to do this. Is that right?

[Clay Travis]

Well, he just. I mean, the Pope's schedule, as one might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what the date is, but it's kind of what I would say is a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer was coming. He was excited to be able to get the offer, to get the jersey, to be able to meet. And I think he's going to. I think he's going to try and. And I mean, he said he's going to try and do it. So it could and should be a pretty awesome event.

[Buck Sexton]

Look at you, Globetrotting.

[Clay Travis]

So making. Just trying to do good things and make the world a little bit better place, as everyone assumes that I always will be trying to do.

[Buck Sexton]

And Clay. Clay is. Is making his. Making his moves over there at the Catholic rock of St. Peter. That is the church. So now tell me what you think about the Epstein file. Since we got you on the phone.

[Clay Travis]

Since we got you, I'm glad that everybody has voted to release some buck. You've got the rest of the show. I am going to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a great dinner in Rome. I hope that you have something.

[Buck Sexton]

I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have some gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun. And very cool. Congratulations on the meeting with the Pope and thank you, sir. Come. Come back Friday or Monday, whatever you got. We'll see you then.

[Michael Watley]

Okay, we'll do.

[Buck Sexton]

I'll see you. Have fun, man. Have a good dinner. So I decided. There you go. Clay met the Pope, so there's that. And that was why he was. He was Gone this week. It's very exciting, Very exciting. The Pope also, we did have. I was going to read the email from, from Sissy who said that that's what she thought was happening. And that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call. She said. I'm looking forward to hearing the details of Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is he got a once in a lifetime interview with the Pope since he's a baseball fan. Just a wild guess. There you go. You nailed it. And Sissy, we got your follow up email. Oh my goodness. I got it correct. Clay and the Pope. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket. So we did have. That was before Clay tweeted about this or put it out on X, but this was before that happened. Clay was supposed to reveal this on the show, but he's Clay, he does whatever he wants. So there we are, team. Why don't we. Because, because we're gonna have kind of a hard turn coming up here into the world of, from meeting with the Pope to the release of the Epstein files. We have a little bit of a, of a transition to do. And we'll rack and stack some calls and some talk backs on this one because I think that what we are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been demanding all along. We also have the White House weighing in on the filibuster via Caroline Levitt and Trump really rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi leadership, which is something that I think this is a good thing for the region, a good thing for America, for the Middle East, I mean, good thing for America. I think you might see a normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, furthering the Abraham Accords. And I think you might see a big move in the, in the Middle east with regard to that. And Trump is trying to bring that about. Of course, there are the detractors, the haters out there, the people who are upset that Trump would sit with the head of state of a country that whether we want to deal with the Saudis or not is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather energy markets. And we really don't have a choice. So why not have a constructive relationship with the Saudis? Why not try to encourage them to, yes, invest in America, which is a huge focus from Trump, but also to do what they can to liberalize. I know Saudi Arabia is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of the. And I know about the past with Saudi Arabia's role in unfortunately exporting the, what used to be referred to very Much as the Wahhabist ideology, which is a radical interpretation of Islam, setting up Wahhabist mosques all over the world. And they've moved away from that. They've become a constructive partner for security in the, in the region. And they're making overtures toward a better relationship with Israel. And that would be very helpful for Middle east peace and stability. So that's why that's going on. Also something else. We're gonna have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running for Senate up there in North Carolina, very important Senate seat. And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway in North Carolina that there's pushback, of course, from Democrats. What's really going on there? When I tell you I have some stats. When I tell you how many kids are staying home because of immigration, illegal alien immigration enforcement in North Carol, I think you're going to be pretty shocked. And it gives you a sense of how enormous the scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this. You are paying for this, especially if you live in North Carolina, live in these districts where the kids are staying home. You're paying for English as a second language training in these schools. 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Let's talk about what's going on in North Carolina. Our guest here, Michael Watley, running for a critical Senate seat there. Michael, appreciate you joining us here. Calling in. Tell us what has been going on with your state when it comes to illegal immigration enforcement. There's been some very interesting exchanges I'm seeing online.

[Michael Watley]

Yeah. Well, the biggest thing to kind of table set for all of your listeners is the fact that my opponent, Roy Cooper, when he was the governor of North Carolina, vetoed legislation which would have forced sheriffs to honor ICE detainers and move violent criminal illegal aliens out of the state. And so now we have a system where we have a revolving door that's putting these criminals back on the street. They are not being deported. And ICE has come in to make a number of arrests and help clean up the mess that Roy Cooper has created in North Carolina.

[Buck Sexton]

People who are trying to get a sense of the scale of the illegal immigration issue. I don't know if you saw this. It was being shared broadly online. This number that in the Charlotte public school system earlier this week there were 21,000. Now apparently the CMS data is not finalized yet, but basically 21,000 students missed school in just the Charlotte Public School District on Monday, which they say is 15%. I mean, this is, this is kind of stunning to think that that many kids are affected by because they have illegal immigrant parents. What's going on here? What can you tell us about this?

[Michael Watley]

Well, I think it's stunning that when you look at the, you know, millions of illegal immigrants that came across the border during Joe Biden's administration, 10, 15 million immigrants that came across hundreds of thousands of Them were known criminals who had records, and they still were released into, you know, states like North Carolina. The fact is that North Carolina should not be a border state, but we are a border state. And so, you know, when we think about having ICE come in and be able to take these people off the street and they're saying, you know, there have been over 200 plus arrests so far. You know, these are people who've been arrested who have criminal records, that people who are wanted for criminal records and need to be deported. It is absolutely a dereliction of duty for, you know, the sheriff of Mecklenburg county, sheriffs of Wake county, which is Raleigh, or, you know, Durham county, to not honor these ICE detainers. And it was a dereliction of duty for Roy Cooper to veto legislation would have forced them to be able to do that.

[Buck Sexton]

What kind of drain on the budget has it been for the state of North Carolina to have? Can you give us a sense? There are some places we think about illegal immigration a lot, right? You think about New York City and the state of California, Texas, you know, places along the border. The Carolinas don't necessarily come to mind right away, but can you give some sense of the. Of the scale and also the cost for the people of your state about illegal immigration and how much of an issue it has become?

[Michael Watley]

Well, it's a huge issue. You know, when you talk about, you know, the federal programs and the state programs to be able to help our needy, and the fact that we have, you know, millions of people around the country, illegal aliens that were on Medicaid, the fact that we actually had to pass legislation as part of the one big, beautiful bill to take illegal aliens and say that they cannot be on Medicaid, and the fact that the Democrats were fighting extremely hard to try and put, you know, those provisions back into place. When we look at food stamps, we look at the WIC programs, we look at, you know, schools and all of the other costs that are out there, the societal costs for services for illegal aliens is absolutely stupefying. And it is remarkable that Democrats in North Carolina and around the country, including Roy Cooper, want to fight harder for illegal aliens than they do their own constituents.

[Buck Sexton]

We're speaking to Michael Whatley, former RNC chair and candidate for Senate in North Carolina. I know it's technically early in that cycle, Michael, but the Republican Party has already been, you know, moving forward with your candidacy, trying to. Trying to back. Back things up, back you up in this, because I think they recognize, man, the Democrats, what kind of money are they going to put behind Roy Cooper to try to get this Senate seat.

[Michael Watley]

Well, it's going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country. We've seen estimates that this could be as high as 600 to $800 million that will be spent in North Carolina. We know the Democrats are going to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into the race. It's really, they're one of two pickup opportunities that they have all around the country, Susan Collins up in Maine being the other one. And the fact is, we're going to have the support of President Trump, we're going to have the support of the grassroots, we're going to have the support of, you know, from people all across North Carolina to be able to go toe to toe with that out of state money. But, you know, we look at, you know, the amount of money that Roy Cooper is going to be able to bring in from around the country, and it's not daunting because as we saw in the last election cycle, President Trump got outspent by a billion dollars. Kamala Harris, you know, raised and spent, you know, $2.5 billion. But she had a terrible message and, you know, good policy is good politics. So we're going to win this race even if we're outspent, because we're going to be focused on creating jobs and raising wages. We're going to be focused on keeping our kids and our communities safe. And obviously, this current conversation is a big part of that. And we're also going to focus on making sure that our men and women in uniform have what they need to protect our interests and our allies around the world.

[Buck Sexton]

I wanted to let you react to Josh Stein, the governor of North Carolina here. Michael, this is cut 17 on our, on our sheet team. He's, he's saying, well, I'll let everybody hear what he's saying. Play 17. We've seen mass heavily armed agents and paramilitary garb driving unmarked cars, targeting American citizens based on their skin color, racially profiling and picking up random people in public parking lots and off of our sidewalks, going after landscapers, simply decorating a Christmas tree in someone's front yard and entering churches and stores to grab people. This is not making us safer. It's stoking fear and dividing our community. We are a nation of immigrants, and our state and this country is stronger because of our immigrant communities. Unfortunately, our immigration system is broken. But rather than fix it, the federal government continues to play politics with it. So, Governor, Governor Stein in North Carolina, Michael, does he get all of his Talking points from msnbc. How does that work?

[Michael Watley]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that is lock, stock and barrel. The messaging platform from the far left, the progressive, radical left. The fact is, if Roy Cooper had signed that legislation and sheriffs had honored their ICE detainers, then we probably would not need to have President Trump sending his administration down here and taking these people off of the streets. Nobody can dispute the fact that the hundreds of arrests that have been made are people who have criminal records and should not be walking the streets, whether it's in Charlotte or Raleigh or anywhere else in North Carolina. And the fact is that there are thousands of people who are in North Carolina jails right now that are not being turned over to ice. When they are, when they are illegal aliens is a huge problem that is the fault of Roy Cooper. It's a total failure of leadership on his part.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, Roy Cooper, your opponent in this Senate race, gonna be trying to convince everybody that, you know, he's a pragmatic Democrat or one of the reasonable Democrats. Right. I mean, we're seeing right now in real time what that actually means on, say, illegal immigration and the enforcement of underway from the Trump administration. Democrats are expected to pretend that this is like the East German Stasi picking up innocent people off the streets. Whatever. Where are some other key areas of difference between what you would bring to the United States Senate versus Roy Cooper? Just so we have a huge audience all across North Carolina, I want them to hear from you how you two guys would be markedly different and what that would mean in the United States Senate.

[Michael Watley]

Well, we certainly could talk about the fact that he vetoed six different bills with tax cuts, balance budgets, police pay raises and teacher pay raises. And we can talk about the legislation that he vetoed that would have kept boys out of girls sports and men out of women's locker rooms. But I think that probably the most important thing that we're going to need to talk about is keeping our kids and our communities safe. And Roy Cooper, when he was the governor in 2020, when we had Antifa and BLM rioting all across North Carolina, was out there marching with them in protest and also signed an executive order that basically created cashless bail and pretrial release in North Carolina, created a revolving door for all of our criminals and led to violent crime spikes in all major North Carolina cities. And that that is the reason why we had. Aryna Zyrotska, a beautiful young lady who was murdered in Charlotte, has kind of been held up as the most vivid example where her murderer had been arrested 14 different times and released under Roy Cooper's soft on crime policies that we need to keep our kids and our community safe. That is the number one function for any government, whether it's state, local or federal. And we need ultimately to have policies that are going to be set at the federal level to keep our kids and communities safe. And we cannot trust Roy Cooper with it. But at the end of the day, this is going to come down to a vote in the Senate and whether we're going to have somebody who will be an ally for President Trump and stand up for the conservative values of North Carolina or are we going to have a radical progressive card carrying member of the woke mob like Roy Cooper. And ultimately, at the end of the day, North Carolina is going to side with North Carolina values. They do not want a candidate who's going to fight every day harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he is his own constituents.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, Michael, make sure that you keep in touch with us here and our team so that as you get deeper into this race and you have, I'm sure a debate that will happen with Roy Cooper. You know, we want to get the word out and continue to talk about this one because as you point out, it's North Carolina and Maine that are the big targets for Democrat pick up. So hundreds of millions of dollars going to be spent against you. A lot of it's going to come from Malibu and Manhattan. But anyway, as you already know, where can people go to follow what you're doing? Help out, pitch in.

[Michael Watley]

Excellent. Michael Watley.com is the website and they can follow me on X at at Whatley nc.

[Buck Sexton]

Bring home the W for us. Michael, thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you again soon.

[Michael Watley]

Yes sir. Take care of.

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I think that you're asking for people's opinions. They're easy enough to find. They're going to share these opinions. So it's not some political incentive to mess with this data. It's not like an election or something. So I think that what's, there's a, there's something that's concerning here and something that I actually find encouraging. I'll start with the concerning side of this. The concerning side of it now is that 61% of girls say that they want to get married someday. If I'm reading this data correctly, boys are more likely than girls to say they want to get married someday. 74% versus 61%. Only 61% of girls say they want to get married. What is going on here? Well, I think we know what's going on. Unfortunately, our society. And I think, look, I've only, I've only been around for a certain period of time, as you know, but for my entire adult life, to be sure, there has been this, I call it like the sex in the city sex and the city effect. The boss, boss girl stuff. There has been a very clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in our culture to tell young women to act like men, not to pretend they're men. That's, that's also happening. That's a separate issue. Right, that's the trans thing. But to, to engage socially, certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and hookup culture the way that men do and to, to instead of having legal equality and a legal right to choose their own destiny, they should view themselves more as equal as in the same as men and young women are not the same as young men. You and I know this is not a recipe for long term happiness for women. This is not going to result in good life choices for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're talking about roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here. We're talking about women in the, you know, 18 to 30 year old age age range here. But I'll tell you, I know this just from, if we want to get anecdotal. I know so many women who are my age now, they're in their 40s that I grew up with in New York and they had nothing but options and a lot of them are not married and they're never going to have families now. And what do we, what would I say to them if they wanted to hear my opinion on this, which I don't think they do? They're probably not listening to this show, but they were completely misled by the culture, they were put down a pathway that was very likely to cause misery. And there are even little small things along the way here. I remember when I was, when I was graduating from college, everybody around me wanted to work at an investment bank or a management consultant firm. Maybe that was an, that's not just an Amherst thing. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Williams, you know, Haverford, Stanford, Duke, all these places they, everybody wants to, they want to. You want to come out of school, you want to make 150 grand your first year out of school, which is what you can make at some of these places as a 22, 23 year old. And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But the hours, especially on the investment banking side, were absolutely miserable and brutal. 80, 90 hour weeks expected. That was, I mean, if you weren't going to sign up for that. And I just remember thinking, I was like, how many of the young women that I knew in that class, really, why do they want to do that? And this, some may say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist. It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women have different biological timelines that they're operating under. That is just a fact. Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm from age 22 to, you know, 30 to try to make VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors and do all this stuff. Should they be able to do this if they choose? Absolutely. Is this going to make most of them happy? Well, I can tell you none of the ones that I knew lasted, none of them did it a couple years, maybe stayed, stayed in finance. They all stopped because guys work overwhelmingly. Why do guys work in finance? Why do guys do any job where they can try to make a comfortable living? Because they want to be an attractive partner, a mate, husband for a woman so they can provide for a family. And you know, this is why these guys put themselves through this. And you know, the data on the other side of this is also very clear. They've run these experiments and you don't even have to. You just think through the experiment. Guy sees a beautiful women, a beautiful woman, she's wearing a power suit, she's a boss babe. Guy sees the same, same woman in a different context. She's wearing a McDonald's uniform. The percentage of guys who care about this is very small, very small. Just a fact, just the truth. They've done these, they've done these experiments before, you know, and we have led so many of these women down this, young women down this pathway and it's my generation that I think it is. I'm a, I'm a graybeard millennial. I do have gray in my beard. I'm a graybeard millennial. My generation was just DEI and the boss babe, sex in the city stuff just decimated. Certainly the people who grew up in the big cities and were around this, really inundated with this culture and, and it's still happening. These young women, you know, you don't, don't want to get married. I mean I, you can sit and watch all these interviews that there, there's some very actually good podcasters who do these long form interviews with CEOs who are wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard and these different, some of these hosts the diary of a CEO guy, there's others, they're always told the same thing by these guys who have more money than they know what to do with, more success than they know what to do with. If they had a regret, it was I wish I spent more time with my family. And if they're asked what they're most proud of and they have a family, you know what they say, their family, I mean this is all very, very much there for. So I really think that there need to be more voices speaking to young women are not going to. Some of you, by the way, very glad you're listening to the show, but I don't know if a 43 year old guy telling women about their life choices is going to resonate with, you know, 20 somethings who love Taylor Swift. Like I understand that may not be my prime demographic for my message, but we need more women who can speak effectively to them and it's for their own good because they're being led down a pathway that is not turning out well. And the fact that you're getting close to almost half of women don't want to get married. Young women, 18 year old women, they don't want to get married. Now you could say, oh maybe they still want to have kids. And I would say to that if you're going to have kids, you should get married. Ok? You should, you should have a stable family formation. Shouldn't do this, shouldn't do this, the baby mama thing or the shouldn't do this.

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Bruce Rally tells me some people are getting mad at Taylor Swift for getting married. No, no, no. This is, this is very bad message they have. Ok. On the good. So that's on the bad side of things. Women, young women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. It's Terrible. I see it everywhere. And the results are just going to be a lot of, a lot of misery for them later in life. A lot of regret, I should say. You know, people can find purpose in a lot of things. And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children. And a lot of people have difficulty having children. But we're talking, it's like policy. What is going to bring the greatest happiness results for the greatest number of people? Getting married, having a family, pursuing a life where you are focused day to day outside of your own needs and wants. It's so important, it's so important to have things that you care about. Relationship with God, your wife, your husband, your kids, your immediate family, you know, your, your family member, that you're a caretaker or taken care of. You have to care. A cause that's actually worthy, not like climate change, but an actually worthy cause. You have to care about things beyond yourself because otherwise you'll just go through the scale of hedonic adaptation. Things get better, you get used to it materially. Things get better, you don't care anymore. You know, I was, I was recently out with a guy, is a friend of a friend, very nice guy, and I'm not, not putting him down, but I just thought it was kind of funny. There's a car called a Pagani, which I think is cost like, like $4 million, six minutes. A car, it costs millions of dollars. I don't know. Producer Alley, Google what a Pagani costs. It's, it's, it's absurd. And this guy has eight of them. And let me tell you something, the ninth Pagani, he's probably going to lose it somewhere, doesn't even care, right? You reach this point where that stuff doesn't matter. You have to find meaning in other things, meaning things outside of your immediate needs and wants. On the upside though, of this same Pew poll, the fact that young men and I love. It's a huge problem for the Democrat party, a huge problem for the woke left. Young men have gotten the message. Young men realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense. They have realized that, that the suppression of traits within masculinity, bravery, courage, aggression, concentrated in the right ways, you know, that the suppression of these things, wanting to be the leader of a family, wanting to be the leader of a community and whatever way that is, wanting to be a leader in the workplace, that the suppression of that is just absolute nonsense and really destructive. And young Men are realizing this is why they are turning away from the Democrat Party. This is why young men are increasingly going back to. For those. Those who are Christian, going back to church. They're. They. They want more. They want to lead. They want to be spiritual leaders. They want to be people that. They want to be someone that their wife can count on. Yes, to defend them, to protect them physically, but also emotionally and spiritually, to be there for them. We want to have our roles. We want to pursue the best of what it is to be a man. Young men want to get married in greater numbers, according to Pew. They want to be masculine. Not, you know, just, oh, I'm shooting up a lot of steroids and, you know, I look like he man or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative, their masculine destiny to be men that they become good men. They get it in greater numbers. And it's just because of the failure of what the left is offering, the undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness of our culture of leftism and liberalism and all this other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and pulling men down. They see it and they've had enough and they know there's something better. And I just truly hope that the young women of America are on the precipice of a similar renaissance, a similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure I worry. Women have been greatly misled, and the damage is just beginning, I think, to set in for many of them. Tunnel at the Towers foundation honors America's greatest heroes, like dedicated public servant Josh Bischoff. Josh began his firefighting career as a volunteer and quickly rose through the ranks to become Cal Fire's Assistant Chief of Tactical Air Operations. Josh was driven by a deep sense of purpose and a passion for serving others. His leadership earned him great respect across the state of California and beyond. Then tragedy struck and two helicopters collided while fighting a California wildfire. Josh was killed in the crash. He leaves behind his wife, Cheryl, and their two children, Derek and Juliana. 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