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Buck Sexton
District, which I do, which, which is my congressman.
Clay Travis
Yeah, this is, this would be Clay's congressman, which would be pretty funny if he's in this wonderful red state of Tennessee with among the most lunatic members of Congress out there. She, she's AOC level crazy and maybe worse from what I've seen I think.
Buck Sexton
She, I think she's crazier than aoc. And if you consider that she represents the state of Tennessee and AOC represents New York, she is outrageously out of line with the average Tennessee. And whereas the average New Yorker, you could at least argue, might support much of what AOC would argue for. Also, Buck, big news. The Georgia decision with the Trump case, as we told you, that is the Fannie Willis case that we told you for garbage was years has officially been dismissed. And we'll get into that. More importantly, maybe you're, as you said in New York City and you have commandeered the staff to be holding your baby son right now. So we're, we're, it's, it's like the pilots of the plane are now distracted by a cute baby boy. I looked just down at my phone and producer Ali, I don't even know if she, she's working today. We got to put this photo on their lap.
Clay Travis
Producer Ali is a jack of all trades. She handles so many of the things as, as EP here. But with producers Greg and Mike, they are doing impromptu babysitting. My wonderful wife Carrie got caught in traffic and she's got, you know, this is true for a lot of us. Even when you move to Florida, Clay, this is, I know so many New Yorkers. We still keep our various, like, long term relationships with, with doctors, with your, you know, people with their barber with their hair, all these things. So she was trying to stack all these appointments this morning and is a little late getting, getting in here to the studio. But it's no problem. I told her because Baby Speed is a showstopper and he's hanging out with the staff in there. He's ready for his own microphone. I'm telling you, he's having a great time. So very, very much appreciate what's going on there. We'll put that, we'll put up a Baby Speed with the team photo on Clay and Buck, Great Thanksgiving. You know, great, great family fun going on. And we'll also have some discussions about Thanksgiving and how thankful we are for all of you and how I think this country should be thankful for the amazing position we find ourselves in despite the challenges, despite the things that aren't exactly as we want them to be, and there are many of them. It is a remarkable time to be an American, my friends. And one of the reasons, Clay, I like history so much is because there's, I think there's a lot of context and comfort. You know, we both have. It's funny too. We Both love history. Clearly different. You're like a Civil War super freak. You know, you're all about Civil War. I tend to like, like, ancient Greek, Roman stuff, 16th century Mediterranean stuff. You know, some specifics. But history gives you a context for the world that we live in today. And it's a reminder of a few things. One, there's really nothing new. Every humanity has been through all these things that we are going through now. And two, man, it's nice to be able to just sit down at a table with an enormous plump turkey and more food. The problem is not having food on the table like the Pilgrims. And I know Rush had his amazing first Thanksgiving show that we've talked about before. The problem is when to cut off all the cranberry and the stuffing and everything else, which is kind of a metaphor for where we are in America these days. Yes, there are challenges, Clay, but we are very blessed and have a lot to be thankful for.
Buck Sexton
Yes. And also to your point, history, there is an obsession with saying all the time, oh, my God, this is the worst. How can we ever get through this? I always like to say we had an election in the middle of the Civil War. It's kind of a big deal. 1864. We had an election during World War II. And if you go back, I don't know if you've watched any of the Ken Burns Revolutionary War series at all yet, Buck, but I've been reading the Atkinson trilogy on the Revolutionary War, and I know for many people out there, they. We kind of have this idea of the Founding Fathers as sort of these gilded statues. And because of how the Revolutionary War turned out, we have created this idea in our heads that it wasn't incredibly bloody and contentious and violent. And because, again, the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, they're. They're sort of embossed in this glow of. Of. Of. Of sort of historical relevance that makes it seem like they weren't contentious at the time. It was nasty. I mean, you go back and look at much of our history, and it's been way contentious, way more violent, way more awful than the present day in which we live. And I think that's important because nobody has historical knowledge at all anymore. And so everybody is like a butterfly or a goldfish. And they think that everything. It's the first time that it's ever occurred.
Clay Travis
One of my favorite history factoids from the Mel Gibson movie the Patriot, which we just. I had my father in law, Captain Flatley, I had him staying with us over the weekend, and we were just like, what can we watch that we'll just enjoy watching we've seen before? Like, I've reached this point now where I can't even look for new stuff because it takes so long. And you end up watching some, some, you know, communist nonsense on Netflix for five minutes and realize that, you know, the, that the era of good TV is over. But we turned on the patriot and the fact that the British were very upset with the, with the colonists or, you know, with the, the early Americans for shooting officers. That is real. That is a real thing. The British were like, how, how dare you? And all of our guys from like, you know, areas of rural Virginia and Tennessee were like, those officers look like good targets to me. I mean, you know, different times, my friends, different times. But that was considered ungentlemanly. That was a real thing. And all of these wars that were fought in our past were very nasty and ungentlemanly. And they didn't have a lot of the things they have today that can help save lives, as we know. Okay, I'm getting, I'm getting a little bit. Look at the Thanksgiving Day show. We'll take a lot of your calls, a lot of your stuff. Like we said, we got cash on, which will be phenomenal. I really want to talk to him about the situation of the FBI and really just federal law enforcement helping out in these cities. I still, first of all, Memphis is not getting enough attention. We try to give it more attention here, but that that is working and that it is working in D.C. and that this idea of deploying more law enforcement resources is somehow crazy as a means of bringing down crime. Clay, the El Salvador miracle needs to be talked about more in our country. From basically the least safe to the safest place per capita in the entire western hemisphere of the globe. Ok, and how do they do it, backing the cops and locking up the bad guys? It does work. It does work when you do this. And, you know, I'm willing to have, we can have conversations about, you know, about second chances and about mercy for people who have been convicted on different things. We can have that once we bring the homicide rate down to all time lows in all of these cities that have been plagued with, you know, let's fix the problem and then we can have a. I didn't say open the floodgates and let everybody out, but then we can have more conversations about rehabilitation and what do we do? And I think at that point we'd find that there are a lot of people that you actually can't rehabilitate and that it's better for them and better for us and better for society if they are institutionalized for a long period of time, certainly the period of time that they are most dangerous to the public. So I think that these are all things that we'll certainly talk to Cash about. But I also wish that there was substantially more attention on this aspect of what Trump is doing that is, I think, working and should get a whole lot more attention. But we spoke about this. Trump pardoned the turkeys. We're just going to have some fun with this for a second. You already did the Trump Pritzker line, right?
Buck Sexton
Yes, I played a bunch. I mean, again, the thing that I don't think most people have contemplated is Trump makes everything so much more entertaining whenever he's off the stage. Things like the pardoning of the turkeys are just going to kind of vanish as entertaining things. But this was happening yesterday during the program, and I said we got to show cuts of, of what was going on. I think we can play the Pritzker line again because it is such a funny one as he explains why he's not going to talk about the fact that J.B. pritzker is a fat slob in vintage Trump fashion, which is very, very funny.
Clay Travis
Yeah, there's a, there's. Preterizzio is one way of describing this. Saying what you say, you won't say. And there's another term for it, which I can't remember, but it's a, it's a rhetorical trick, which Trump is, is quite good at. And then there's the, there's the illegal orders brouhaha. You know, again, I was in the, I was traveling clay yesterday. I was in the air. That was why I had to, you know, that was why you were solo. So if we, if you already hit all of that. But that seems like something that is not going away. That seems like a component of. Well, certainly the Trump administration's approach to this stuff is never to back down. But Secretary of War Hegseth, he does not let this stuff go lightly. Our friend Pete, who I've known for many years, he is viewing this with seriousness. What they have done, he is not letting this go.
Buck Sexton
No doubt. And let's play that. Let's play the Pritzker line. Cause I do think it's a good way to start off the Thanksgiving Eve show. And we should say we're incredibly thankful to all of you and be safe out there. I traveled yesterday. You traveled yesterday. There are people on the road all over the country that are listening to us right now. And by the way, if you need something to listen to on your travels, good opportunity to go to subscribe to the Clay and Buck Podcast network where we have a bevy of fantastic audio options for you no matter what you might be in the mood for. Because I know a lot of you are going to be on the road. 90% of the people traveling and I think they said 82 million ish people are expected to be traveling for Thanksgiving in the country. So a lot of you needing things to listen to. Late night drives, early mornings. Crockett Coffee probably could help out a little bit with that too. 30% off everything at Crockett Coffee right now. But if you go subscribe Clay and Buck Podcast network, you will find a bevy of shows that are great that many of you can can track down.
Clay Travis
I think we got to do a Crockett like biopic by the way. You know they're talking about good TV shows or like a Crockett series. I got idea.
Buck Sexton
Oh, that's a good idea.
Clay Travis
I do like your like your undaunted courage idea as well. But there's some. There's such a market for great American historical entertainment and I think that's clear. I have not watched the Ken Burns. I've read some reviews of it of the Revolution. I may get to some of it over the next few days because they're going to be in food coma with the family and just watching stuff I've heard there's a little bit of wokeness, which I expect because it's Ken Burns. But I've heard it's pretty well done.
Buck Sexton
Overall, so I DVR'd it, so I haven't watched it yet. I don't know if people still DVR things I still do, so it's on my roster of things to watch. Buck, not gonna shock you. I'm gonna spend pretty much Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday watching football. So I will not watch anything else probably.
Clay Travis
What is the if I only watch one game with my you know what Clay, come back and give me the answer on the other side, someone's going to love question. Some people are going to love you and some people are going to be angry at Clay and I love when they get ticked off at Clay. It's so fun. The talkbacks are always hilarious. If I only get to watch one football game with my brothers and my dad who are normal Americans who like football, which one is it? Because I will, I will mark that one on the calendar. Finally get one. I know you're going to watch them all finally get one. We'll come back. Clay will give his answer, putting them right on the hot seat. Like a turkey. Like a turkey. Imagine locking in a low monthly price in your cell phone bill for the rest of your life. That's Pure Talk's current offer. If you haven't made the switch, now's the time. Look, Thanksgiving dinner is expensive. I get it. Those turkeys are costly. Let's save you some money. $29.95 is Pure Talk's monthly price for unlimited talk, text and Data with a 30 gig hotspot for life. This is Pure Talk's top tier plan. Normally $65 a month. Now it's $29.95 a month. You're saving over 50% a month every month. Make the switch. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck for PureTalk's best unlimited plan for $29.95 a month for life. PureTalk's US customer service team can have you switched in minutes. Unlike Obamacare, you can keep your phone and your number. Dial £250, say Clay and Buck to switch to my wireless company, PureTalk. Taxes and fees not included. Some restrictions apply. See PureTalk.com for details.
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Buck Sexton
We are joined now by a guy that both Buck and I are thankful is the FBI director. He is Kash Patel. Happy Thanksgiving, Cash. And congrats on what I think most of us would say has been a really good first year. But I want to start with this. You know you're doing a lot, right? When the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times both had huge exposes on you that basically said, yeah, this guy's working a lot, he's traveling a lot, and he has a girlfriend. I don't know that I've ever seen as much attention paid to a girlfriend before, but congrats. And what's it been like to have Buck and I were talking about this on the show and off air, but it feels like you kind of cycle around where somebody is the target and right now the mainstream legacy media has decided you're the target. So how's it going?
Kash Patel
Well, first of all, it's so great to be with you guys. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. I'm stuck in DC on duty, but that's okay. That's what the job requires and that's what we give it. You're right. We've had a historic year. Year. We've taken down twice as many violent offenders as last year alone, Seized more fentanyl than ever before, struck a deal with China to shut off fentanyl precursors, arrested more than 490% increase in 7, 6, 4 extremists. Those attempting to and violating our children's rights. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This FBI is on fire. And that's why the mainstream media is coming after you. They know they politicized the FBI and law enforcement like never before during Russiagate and Arctic Frost. And they know we're sitting in the seat to expose it. That's exactly what they're going to do do. And they're baseless attacks. Baseless attacks against my girlfriend and me. And Alexis, by the way, is a brilliant country music star and conservative commentator in her own right. But the fact that the mainstream media decided to come after me through her is disgusting and despicable. But it also tells us we're strong enough to get through it and we're over the target. And Clay and Buck, we're not stopping. Wait till you see what we got coming up in another week or two.
Clay Travis
Well, Director Patel, we have, we have a lot of faith. And you and Deputy Director Bongino and have kept that faith all along, as the audience knows, because we know you guys and we know what you approach this job with and why you took this job as well. I will note to what Clay said. It is very clear to us that, like the eye of Sauron has moved from, from Secretary of War Hegseth, you know, the New York Times going all out on him to now the eye of Soren is on you. But we know that you'll be. You'll be fine with this. In fact, here we play real quick. President Trump, there was a story circulating a day or what the last 24 hours. They're all saying that, you know, that, that Trump is thinking about your. Your replacement. And he spoke to this and basically said, fat chance. Fake news.
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Are you planning to replace Cash Patel?
Clay Travis
No, he's doing a good job. Cash Patel. No, he's doing a great job. I think. Listen to the president handles that just like what are you even. What are you even talking about? But clearly they're trying to create dissension in the ranks, so to speak. Cash and I want you to speak to something that we want to give more attention to because it's so important, the federal efforts to bring down violent crime in cities and some of the places like Memphis, places like St. Louis, Washington, D.C. can you speak to that, please, and give us some of the numbers and the stats? Because the mainstream legacy media clearly doesn't want to admit they've been wrong on this one.
Kash Patel
Absolutely. That's the mission here. Protect the homeland and crush violent crime. And President Trump authorized us to do just that. And the FBI has been the beachhead in places like Memphis and St. Louis and Miami and so many other cities across the country. Violent crime exploded under the Biden area administration. And the prior FBI leadership allowed it to blossom and did nothing about it. What we did, we took 1,000 agents out of Washington D.C. and moved them into the field permanently. Every single state got a plus up of intelligence analysts and FBI agents and they hit the streets. And what happens when you do that? You get 30,000 arrests, 25,000 of which are violent offenders. That. That's twice as many as last year alone. And we don't even have December done yet. And in terms of murder rate, we are chopping the murder rate in major cities by 30 and 40%. In Memphis alone, the homicide rate is down 55% in three months. That is an unbelievable number for the city that had the highest per capita homicide in the United States of America. At the FBI, I'm focused on letting good cost be cops. Me and Deputy Director are here to push the agents out to the field where the work is. And the fentanyl seizures received 127 million lethal doses of fentanyl. That's a 31% increase alone. And we're taking the fight to our enemies. And we're also engaging with partners like the CCP where we can to shut off fentanyl precursors and make sure they don't devastate our young communities around the country. And that's just a little bit of what we're doing. We're also the most transparent agency now. 40,000 documents turned over to Congress by this FBI in nine months. Ray did 13,000 in his entire seven years. And Comey did 3,000 in his entire three years. So if there are people saying we're not transparent and committed to oversight, just look at the evidence when you.
Buck Sexton
I know we're really good friends with Charlie Kirk. And one of the biggest challenges of any of these jobs, and Buck and I were live on the air when the shooting happened. It was obviously devastating for us and for everybody out there listening. What can you tell us about that investigation? Do you believe, based on what you've seen so far, and I know there's a trial coming up, so you may have to tiptoe around it a little bit. Do you believe that that individual acted alone? And also, do you hope, because I do, that this trial is as public as possible so that people can see it and all of the evidence that your agents and other law enforcement have brought to bear there. What can you tell us about that investigation in that case?
Kash Patel
Yeah, you guys know we're all super close with Charlie. And you know, when you're the director of the FBI and you're tasked with leading the nation's manhunt for your friend, you got to put that piece aside. And we were able to find the perpetrator in 33 hours. And that's because the FBI cut videos directly from the University Valley, Utah Security Systems, publicized them to the world and the nation, and then we were able to apprehend this individual. But that's just step one. Like you said, there's a trial. And the good thing about state court, as you guys know, is there can be cameras. Unlike federal court, there are no cameras allowed ever. So I'm hoping there's a camera in there, and I want the world to see how we put on the display of evidence. And it's a state prosecution, so the FBI is a partner, but we're not the lead. But this. I think everybody at Turning Point and Erica and everybody in Charlie's universe knows this FBI is committed to investigating absolutely every single lead. And that's what we're doing. On top of that, we're protecting the Integrity investigation by not disclosing information prematurely. The prosecution must come first. Our biggest failure after this tragedy would be to allow this individual to walk freely because of a miscue of evidentiary collection or disclosure of improper information. I'm not going to let that happen.
Clay Travis
We're speaking to FBI Director Kash Patel. And Director Patel, the audience here has been for a long time very, very consistent on. They want more transparency when it comes to Epstein files. Doj, we know we just had this vote. President Trump came out in favor of the Epstein Transparency Act. Huge votes in, or rather almost unanimous votes in the Senate and the House in order to release more files. Just, can you. Can you speak to this? Because there has been among The Trump faithful, a lot of frustration with some of the stop start on this and what feels to some like, you know, hiding the football, like just, you know, what's out there, you know what's coming out. I wanted to give you the floor to address people who support President Trump, supported the pick of you and Deputy Director Bongino and specifically wanted to get to the heart of this issue. So what can you tell everybody about that?
Kash Patel
Absolutely. Look, we have to remind the audience that President Trump was the one who had the audacity and compunction, and rightfully so, to reopen the Epstein case. U.S. attorney Acosta over 15 years ago handled this case and basically bootstrapped any future investigation because he limited the search warrants and investigatory parameters and got judges to sign off on it and agreed to a non prosecution deal and agreed to a prohibition against the disclosure of information. Now, once President Trump reopened that, and we're now in the second Trump administration, we committed to reviewing every single piece of information in there for any credible leads and for anyone out there saying, oh, we're protecting pedophiles. We have arrested 300% more pedophiles during the nine months that I've been the FBI director than year to date last year alone, we have dismantled child pedophile rings and are crushing 764networks. So we're on it. But we cannot violate court orders and put out information that a federal judge has prohibited us. On top of that, there are victims rights where we will always protect victims rights. But we have been committed to work with Congress to put out as much as we can. The Department of Justice has gone back to court twice now to get permission for us to disclose more information. And the biggest distinction, by the way, is that there's the Epstein estate. They have had information for years that they have refused to turn over to law enforcement authorities. And by the way, this FBI has been asking everybody that represents a victim, anyone that knows anything about these alleged acts of sexual deviance and violence to please come forward.
Clay Travis
Wait, can you explain this? Because this is. How is it that the estate, I mean you're the FBI. I think people hear this. What do you mean that they won't release? Like, don't they have to release.
Kash Patel
No. Anyone's in state, if it's your estate, someone else's estate, unless there is a criminal violation occurring there, there is no lawful mechanism to have force an estate to surrender information. And that's the key that the battle with. But what I was saying earlier is we've asked not Only the estate and everybody else who's been saying we have information of new victims, of people in Congress holding microphone rallies and everything. Do you know how many people have come forward to this FBI with quote unquote new information? Zero. Not one person. Every time I ask, no one comes forward. This FBI will investigate any new leads. And we're also committed to transparency. As I said, 40,000 pages to Congress in just nine months alone. We're not hiding anything. We're committed to max transparency while protecting victims rights. And we are going to abide by whatever court orders there are because those are the laws of the land.
Clay Travis
We did ask for some of our VIPs Director Patel to send in their thoughts.
Buck Sexton
Questions for you.
Clay Travis
One coming in from Louis here. How is it going with the subversives and those who are not dedicated to the mission in the FBI and leakers who are trying to play political games basically. Director Patel, how's the cleanup of the FBI going?
Kash Patel
Fantastic. This institution of law enforcement will be just that. There will be no weaponization and no politicization. And those people that have been jettisoned from the scrolls of the FBI have been done so because they failed to meet the mission standards or their ethical obligations. And so we are going across, across the country and replacing anyone and removing anyone who fails to meet our high standard here. As we've done that, we're going to continue to do that. I'm committed to that because that's what President Trump was elected for, to make sure we end the weaponization. No more Russiagate, no more Arctic Frost, no more illegal spying on political opponents, members of Congress and staffers, including like myself, submitting us to countless hours of grand jury and courtroom expenditures. We have ended that era and anyone who participated in it will be exposed and held accountable.
Buck Sexton
What can you tell us about the Trump assassination investigation? The first one, because unfortunately I know there was two. There were reports out there, Tucker Carlson, New York Post saying hey, this guy had substantial actions online that he was potentially trans influenced. I mean a furry. I mean this is crazy. I mean I'm curious whether you think there is. When you look at Minneapolis, when you look at Nashville, when you look at the allegations of Utah and maybe the allegations of this Trump shooter. Is trans violence being under investigated? But what can you tell us about the investigation of that first Trump shooter? Potential trans connections? Anybody else? Do you believe he acted alone? What does the evidence show?
Kash Patel
We follow the evidence and that's it. And we've briefed President Trump the entire way and he's been Fully satisfied with our investigatory steps. We got into this FBI, the prior FBI, for whatever mistakes they made and for whatever information they didn't release. We've released everything we possibly can and we've told the public. We seized every device, got into every device of the assailants, got into all of his social media, all of his email accounts and we've publicized that information. And if there was any investigatory lead that actually led to anyone else, we will 100% take it. But again, it goes back to credible information. If you post something on social media and someone comments on it, that's not a connection necessarily, that's not necessarily credible. It's like going on X and following a million comments from the Clay and Buck show. But we look at every single one of them. Them we will not, we will not leave any stone unturned. And that's what we did here. We redoubled our efforts and we will continue to take any new information that develops.
Buck Sexton
You started with us saying next couple of weeks we got some things coming again. Buck and I are excited you're there, we're excited, Dan Bongino is there. We think you guys have done a fantastic job. What kind of prediction can you give us as we move into December? What should people be paying attention to in your mind? What would you like them to know?
Kash Patel
More accountability on high profile cases. That's coming for sure. We're going to disclose this is that this is the battle rhythm we said here. For the first time ever at the FBI, we are simultaneously disclosing the Congress while simultaneously investigating. That's never been done before. You've seen the stonewalling from prior administrations and we're not doing that. But we are not going to cripple an investigation before we get to the end points. You're going to see that. You're also going to see things like historic reduction in murder rates across the country by double digits. We'll put those numbers out in December. That is a massive victory for the American, American people. Brought to you by the Trump administration and this FBI. And we're about to bring some arrests for high profile cases and we'll just, again, we will let the indictments and the public prosecution speak to our efforts. Those that say we never, Ben and I never say sit here and trust us. Look at the body of work that this FBA has done. And when you look at the mainstream media attack, if we're so failing, if we're so bad, how is it that we have record, historic arrest and record amounts of safety for the American people. Record drug seizures, record narcotics arrest, record arrests. Stopping terrorism attacks like we did in Michigan. And the mainstream media came after us for that as well. If we'd followed them, they would have allowed us to arrest the individuals after they killed Americans. This FBI is not failing.
Buck Sexton
You had a recent press conference where you announced the arrest of Chauncey Billups of NBA prominent players Damon Jones, also mlb. Do you think that investigation is complete or there are potential other individuals that could be charged related to those incidents?
Kash Patel
That investigation is ongoing.
Clay Travis
All right. FBI Director Patel, thank you so much for making the time for us. Thanks for all the work you're putting in over there. Give our best. The Deputy director Bongino, you know, we're thinking about him too. Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all the men and women of the FBI who are doing it the right way and getting the job done. Thank you.
Kash Patel
Thank you guys. Happy Thanksgiving. Appreciate your wonderful audience.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Panama stash money is where I am right now.
Clay Travis
That'd be fun though, I hear not.
Buck Sexton
Working out in the Pan Panama Canal right now to try to make sure ships are getting through.
Clay Travis
He's a team player. You know, we want to help with affordability. Got to make sure those super tankers get through the Panama Canal. So Clay's down there directing traffic with his bare hands. That's the kind of man he is. We do have now. Miranda Devine. We're about to just start tap dancing and telling funny stories. We are joined now by New York Post columnist Miranda Devine. Also, Pod Force One is her wonderful podcast, which is doing, doing great. People love it. Miranda, so now we're taking a bit of a hard turn here because the situation of some of these high profile cases. We can come back and talk Thanksgiving with you toward the end, but these high profile cases where you have just horrific things happening. Now, look, the perpetrators in these specific cases on the light rail in North Carolina, on the L train in Chicago, the perpetrators are black men. In these cases, the victims are white women. And the most salient fact when it comes to the law enforcement side of things is that these, or I should say the judicial and, you know, general law enforcement side of things is that some of these judges have let these individuals out. In one case, the horrific, horrific stabbing, another lit this woman on fire who was fighting for her life in critical condition. The judges let them out dozens and dozens of times. You want accountability? You want this to stop? Tell us, tell us what that would look like.
Miranda Devine
Hi. Honestly, it's so clear that the judges are endangering the lives of the rest of us by this kind of, I don't know whether you call it what Gad said calls it with suicidal empathy or just they don't care. But they need to be held accountable. Everyone else is held accountable. Cops, if they do the wrong thing in an arrest, doctors, every other professional is held accountable. But judges just have some sort of immunity that I think needs to be punctured. At least then they might think twice before they let out some of these monsters on the streets when they should be locked up. And I mean, the alleged, the suspect in the case of Bethany McGee in Chicago, who was beautiful young girl doused in gasoline and then set on fire. She has, you know, facial disfigurement. Half her body is burned. She's in the burns unit in critical condition. He was so deemed so violent that he couldn't even be kept in a locked wing, psychiatric wing of the local hospital because he'd assaulted a social worker so badly that she had a bruised cornea concussion that keeps, you know, some sort of problem that lingers. And this judge, knowing all the litany of 72 arrests and the arson and the aggravated assault in his background, still let him out on the street with an ankle monitor, which is utterly useless.
Buck Sexton
What do you think, Miranda? You've been running around doing all your, your interviews, which have been doing great for the New York Post as a part of your podcast Thanksgiving week. And soon we're gonna be sprinting through the Christmas holiday season. As everybody knows, year one will be over. So I think we could start to kind of give takes overall on Trump year one. What is your take on Trump Year one? And if he were asking you, hey, what should I focus on for the next six months leading into the, the primary season and the midterms, what would you tell him he should do going forward?
Miranda Devine
I think his first year has been incredibly successful and dynamic, especially when you compare it to his first term when he was crippled the whole year by Russiagate. But look, I mean, I think they have it all in hand. You know, he's focusing particularly on affordability because, I mean, you saw from Mamdani, quite cleverly made that the centerpiece of his campaign. And since that success, now, affordability is the watchword for, for politicians everywhere, which I think is a good thing. So I think they'll be focusing on that in terms of their messaging. But I think that the Trump administration's been razor sharp on lowering inflation and trying to set the economy. Right. And I know that, you know, Trump's been attacking the Reserve Board chairman because, sorry, Federal Reserve governor. I thought I was in Australia, Federal Reserve Governor. It to try and get interest rates down, which will make a difference as well. So that, and then I think they should just keep just. And I hope they do. But, you know, there seems to be rumbles to let off on the deportations because of the optics and the craziness of the Democrat pushback. But I think they should double down on it. They've already managed to get rid of a million and a half. And there are, you know, there are 20 million, some odd or maybe 10 million came in under Joe Biden.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I think that they need to continue on with that, Miranda. And also the, you're noting, which is a very important component of it, the, the number of actual deportations, which I think is about a half a million that have been processed as deportations and then the self deportations, as in people who are illegals who have left the country, which is in far, actually a far greater number because they're like, look, I don't want to get deported. And, and I don't want to go through that process. So they actually go back to their country of origin. You get a lot of visa overstays, people like that, that do that as well. I think it's critical that they continue on with this. But I also, you know, we had Director Patel on of the FBI in the last hour, Miranda. So only, only a list guest today allowed on the show. And, and we asked him about these law enforcement efforts. You know, one, we talked about these crazy judges who let people out. You know, sure they've done, they've been violent and it's their 70th arrest, but maybe 75 is the lucky number and they'll stop. I mean, this is madness. It's anti civilization. It makes us all less safe. But what the Trump administration has been doing with the federal law enforcement side, the numbers are looking really good in these cities. And they had all these people saying it's not gonna do anything. That's clearly not true.
Miranda Devine
Yeah, it's clearly not true. And look, I think this is just part of this sicko resistance that's growing. It's the way the Democrats think that they can slow down the agenda for Trump or block it all together like they did in the first term, and they're just throwing everything but the kitchen sink at it. And part of that is crazy protests and a lot of boomers out there with nothing better to do but line up for hours at Home Depot and, you know, buy five dollar scrapers or $1 scrapers or whatever it is. So I just feel like there's a lot of sort of storm and drang, a lot of craziness out there. But the seems to me the Trump administration and Trump himself is just forging ahead and ignoring it all. And eventually, I think in time for the midterms, there will be enough sort of successes chalked up on the economy and crime and everything else that, you know, they'll be able to emerge out into the sunlit uplands and benefit from that with the voters. I hope so, anyway. And I think the deportations and the self deportations, part of the reason the self deportations are going so well is because of those optics, because of the military style, you know, raids that they're doing just to pick up, I went on one in Chicago just to pick up one illegal migrant criminal. It's like, you know, they're in entering Fallujah. The amount of equipment and helicopters and drones and, you know, the special vehicles, armored vehicles. But they have to do it for their own safety. And I think it's a good thing that it looks like overkill because it scares the rest of them. And they think, well, let's go back to our home country and come back the right way. And they've been promised, they're given money to help them with their travel expenses and then they're promised that they will, you know, get to be on the front of the queue if they want to come back legally.
Buck Sexton
Miranda, I think you talked with Buck about this, if I'm not mistaken. I think I was out. But Hunter Biden and the degree to which he is spiraling, where do you think all this ends? And, and do you expect that there will be any consequences Today earlier, the Georgia case got kicked to the curb. South Florida's done. Washington D.C. is done. I think eventually, as we've said on this program for a long time, New York City is going to get tossed by the courts because it was a sham prosecution, a sham case. What is the end stage for lawfare? Will any of the Hunter Biden universe be held accountable? That's one of the primary questions we probably get going forward. Or do you think basically all this is over and Hunter's just going to continue to do podcast tours where he insults people like you and kind of throws fits?
Miranda Devine
Well, I think all eyes are on Fort Pierce in Florida where, you know, there's going to be a grand jury convened to look at this grand conspiracy case that's being built, I'm told, And that will encompass Joe Biden and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as well as the usual suspects, the John Brennan's and James Clappers and Jim Comey, et cetera. So that's, that's, I mean, that's a pretty ambitious proposal. But gosh, if it came out, came off, it would be so satisfying but also so important for the country to ensure something like this never happens again. Where you, a president and a presidential candidate is assaulted every which way with lawfare, assassination attempts and so on. And so in that way, I think Joe Biden perhaps not charged, but as an unindicted co conspirator, certainly that would assist in giving the, giving posterity a real view of who he was. As for Hunter Biden, I mean, I see him as much as a victim of his father. I mean, he's a victim of his own problems and his own addictions and appetites. But look, he has political ambitions. So it just depends what direction this country goes in. If it doesn't start heading on the up and up with Trump in charge, then there could be a real possibility of a Hunter Biden running for president.
Clay Travis
So, Miranda, before we let you go, wait, I.
Buck Sexton
Hunter running for president?
Clay Travis
I just. She threw that in there at the end. This is a record scratch moment at the house party. Whoa, wait a second. He's a maniac, Clay. So I would not be surprised if if he ran, in fact, he'd probably do better than Kamala Harris. Who you think is going to run. Anyway, I wanted to ask you this, Miranda. Australia, you guys don't do Thanksgiving, do you? What's up with that? Why aren't our Aussie brothers and sisters doing a Thanksgiving? It sounds like such a great holiday that everybody could get behind. I know. I don't think you have turkeys down there because they're not dangerous enough for Australia. But what can you tell us? Is this something that maybe is going to catch on down under?
Miranda Devine
Well, Australians didn't have pilgrims and all the history that you had. That's so wonderful. And we don't have the same seasons as you like. It's spring there now and all that, but Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday of all. I just think it is so wonderful and Americans are at their absolute best. The food is delicious, everyone's in a great mood. It's the most hospitable. It just showcases American hospitality. I would have to say from my very earliest memories here in my various iterations, I've just loved Thanksgiving and I hope everyone had a wonderful day and a stress free happy day with lots of delicious gobble gobble turkey.
Clay Travis
That's like a really good answer on Thanksgiving.
Buck Sexton
Yes, I agree.
Clay Travis
You know, she stuck the landing on that one. Guys, go check out Pod Force One. And that's Miranda's podcast. Highly recommended. And Miranda, have a very happy Thanksgiving. We're glad you love the holiday. Thank you.
Miranda Devine
Thanks so much.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Carol Markowitz. Did you say Carol?
Clay Travis
Carol? Yeah, I think I said Lisa Booth. Lisa Booth. Thank you, Lisa Booth. So, yes, those are all people that you can listen to in the podcast network, and I think you should. Clay, there's a little bit of. A little bit of. A little bit of history, a little bit of lore that I wanted to introduce to the program. Do you have any idea? This is. I've always been someone who's fascinated by the origins of things. This is just. Ever since I was a little kid. Why is that thing the way it is? Or why is it called what it is? You know, where the word. Why we call the bird turkey. A turkey. Have you ever thought about this?
Buck Sexton
The only thing I'll know about the turkey, and this is a little bit of anecdote, is that Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey, instead of the bald eagle, to be the official bird symbol of the United States.
Clay Travis
I think that was a rare. A rare L for. For our man Ben. You know, I think that the American bald eagle is slightly more majestic. You know what I'm saying?
Buck Sexton
Like, no, I agree.
Clay Travis
When we have to go into other countries and whoop some ass, do we really want, like, a. Like a screaming turkey on the side of our A10 or on the side of our F16 or do we want a American bald eagle? I'm just saying, you know, the. I think, personally, that's the way to do it. There we go.
Buck Sexton
Oh, there we go.
Clay Travis
Oh, wow. Have you ever. Have you ever been near enough one that they started to chase you? I have.
Buck Sexton
I was on a hike yesterday. Hike is a bit of an exaggeration. I was walking in my neighborhood. Your property.
Clay Travis
That. That's where we are now. Clay has turned into Chevy Chase from Caddyshack. He's like, I just get lost in my own home sometimes.
Buck Sexton
I. I went across the street in my new neighborhood. There is a. I think it's probably a hill. Hill. I don't know what the difference is between a hill and a mountain. It's more hill than mountain. You know, where I am in middle Tennessee, we have rolling hills. More so than. Anyways, a pretty high. Pretty high hike. And I was Walking up the side of this hill as one does majestic, majestic hike by myself, and a huge. What are they called? Flocks of turkeys all suddenly appear. There were like six of them. And one of them started to chase me. And I, you know, being the brave man that I am, I just kind of stood my ground. And the turkey didn't come after me there. But I wondered, what do I do if he actually gets to me? I guess I kick him. I. I don't know. I don't know what the appropriate way to fend off a turkey is, but, yeah, like, I. They were just wild turkeys in the. In the new neighborhood where I live.
Clay Travis
So this is a. This is a fun one. As we all know, there's a country named Turkey which corresponds with the seat of the former Ottoman Empire and the Ottoman traders in the 1500s. So Ottoman Turkish traders brought into Europe a bird that came from West Africa. Okay. Now, the bird that they brought in from West Africa was actually a. Well, they started calling it a turkey cock or a turkey hen, because it was brought in via. So it's like they took it from West Africa. The Ottomans, they brought it, you know, through their ships. They brought it into Europe. They started calling it a turkey cock or a turkey hen. And then when we start having more time in the Americas, they discover the Spanish conquistadors, discover the domesticated turkey that the Aztecs had. Had. Had for a long time. So the Aztecs had domesticated a turkey. Like we have, you know, chickens. And so they brought them back to Europe. And those that they brought back to Europe looked like the. What's actually a guinea fowl from guinea in West Africa. But people thought, oh, that's like the same thing. And that came to us via turkey. So they were calling the new bird in the Americas a turkey turkey. Is that all? I know it's a little roundabout. So basically, the name turkey comes from the African guinea fowl that was transported by Ottoman traders to Europe, who then confused when the conquistadors brought back from the New World the domesticated bird that had no name, that looked like the guinea fowl that they were calling a turkey. They started calling the new bird a turkey. Boom. History.
Buck Sexton
So that is the bird equivalent of how we came to call Native Americans Indians. Yeah.
Clay Travis
Very close. Yeah. Very similar. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's.
Buck Sexton
No, I had no idea. I would have thought. I. That there was probably a connection between the country and the bird, but I had never figured out the entomology there.
Clay Travis
So, boom.
Buck Sexton
Now everybody has a turkey story to share at their Thanksgiving.
Clay Travis
So what we are eating is a bird that Europeans hundreds of years ago thought named for the traders that brought a bird from Africa when they actually brought a bird from the New World that they thought was the same bird from Africa. And they called it Turkey because the guys bringing it to them were Turkish. There you go. Now I just thought everybody should know. Like, that's. That's kind of a fun one, isn't it? That's pretty good.
Buck Sexton
I think it's good. I think it's a good bit of knowledge for everybody out there to share with their families.
Clay Travis
To your point, by the way, Clay, in Turkish, the bird is called Hindi, meaning from India. So there you go. Because. From the Indies, because they got it. They were. They transported it from. You know, this is, like, a lot of stuff going on.
Buck Sexton
Well, you can find this on the podcast along with Russia's Thanksgiving. And we are asking for suggestions as Monday will be the first day of December that we will be back, back. And let's see, we have Kenneth from. Hold on. Sheldon from North Carolina in. In. This is Buck's favorite song. This is what he wants to ensure that we are playing. We asked for Christmas suggestion music in. In.
Clay Travis
Listen. Manheim Steamroller. Whatever. Yeah, Rush used to play it every year. Manheim Steamroller roller. I'm just saying I'm pulling together a Best of Manheim playlist for this show. I. I celebrate the whole catalog. I'm. I'm a Manheim aficionado, and I'm in Char. I'm our point man. I'm a comologist. Chief Comala expert.
Buck Sexton
Although I'm read 107 days, which is the. One of the worst punishments I can think to. To give someone.
Clay Travis
I'm gonna have to surrender my commodious title if she does, in fact, run for president, by the way, which I'm starting to get a little worried.
Buck Sexton
1.
Clay Travis
And then the other one is I'm a Manheim steamroll expert, so I'm like chief steamroller, if you will.
Buck Sexton
John in Sacramento, by the way, we're talking about reclining seats. I want to 100% sign on with John in Sacramento. This also drives me crazy.
Clay Travis
KK hey, guys. You talk a lot about airplane terrorists. What about road terrorists? People that don't move over to the right after passing somebody that's going slower than them or people that go slow on the hills and then speed up when you're trying to pass them in a passing lane.
Buck Sexton
I. Yeah. Road terrorists there. I want police and I know we have a lot of you listening right now. I think you should get pulled over if you're not driving fast enough in the left lane instead of worrying about overall speed. When Buck Sexton, you know, driving miss Daisy over there is going 45 miles an hour in the left lane. I want. There's nothing more infuriating to me when driving, driving than a guy or gal who is in the left lane that doesn't seem to notice that there are 46 people lined up behind them because they are going the same speed in the left lane or even slower than people are going in the right.
Clay Travis
Just a lot of you are driving right now, and I just want you to think of this. You want to know what it's like when Clay Travis is your driver? Remember that scene in Maverick, Top Gun, the first scene, the first scene where he's in the experimental plane and people are like, is this thing going to come apart? Don't go to like Mach 12 or whatever. That's Clay's foot on the accelerator in his suv. You start to be like, I think this car is rattling a little bit. Is this. Can it go these speeds? Is there enough air in these tires for this?
Buck Sexton
I am a. I'm a rapid mover. And if you are a slow mover, God forbid you're driving slow in the left lane, headed to the airport to immediately get on the plane and then recline your seat directly in front of me. I'll. I'll be done for. Somebody sent an email in and said, why don't you just fly first class, Clay? I fly Southwest Airlines. There is no first class. Nashville, Tennessee's number one airline in the public airport is Southwest Airlines. And so even if I wanted to get a first class Southwest airlines seat, they do not exist. Every seat is the exact same.
Clay Travis
I gotta tell you, I'm actually a little bitter every time I come to visit you and the iheart team based in Nashville at. How much better your air like your airport.
Buck Sexton
It's a great.
Clay Travis
You guys are so spoiled in Nashville. And really, the holiday season, a lot of you were going through airports today, man, There are airports and then there are airports. And Nashville is. Is. Is clean and civilized and orderly and there's good food options and it all makes sense. Miami is a third world airport. I don't know what to say. Miami is the worst major airport in the country. You're always walking like four miles. Everything looks the same. The food options are garbage. Okay, there is a secret chick fil a if you know where to go but other than that. But it's not. It's not. First of all, you have to walk like you're going to walk off your whole chicken sandwich on the way there. Miami airport's the worst airport in the. Maybe some of you think you have a worse airport. LaGuardia used to be terrible, and now like the Delta terminal. LaGuardia, they. They knocked the. They knocked the COVID off the ball. It's really nice.
Buck Sexton
I think the worst airport. So first of all, all Fort Lauderdale is easier to get in and out of, but it's also an awful airport. As someone who gets stuck there, like, feels like every time I go to Fort Lauderdale, they have no food options. It is. I think Miami's location for an airport is good. It's just awful if you actually have to go there inside of it.
Clay Travis
They should keep the land lease and they should just start. They should like just knock the whole thing down and start from scratch. It's the.
Buck Sexton
The worst airport in America is Dulles. Dulles is in Washington, D.C. the worst airport in America. First of all, it's from like 1964 and they have these stupid people mover shuttles. It's in the middle of nowhere. No one has ever wanted to go to Dulles in their entire life. You can't fly internationally out of national, which is the best location in terms of like, you're there and you're in Washington D.C. in like 10 minutes. So you can't. It used to be Dulles existed for long range flights because they keep. The Congress people keep expanding how far you can go. I think Dulles is the worst airport in America.
Clay Travis
Yeah. Charlotte Airport. Charlotte's airport is. I know that it's just not built. Charlotte's got. The problem with that one is that it's just too crowded because Charlotte has exploded. Yeah. It just boomed and they weren't ready for it. So I don't really hold that. You know, they just got to do some expansion. It's not that it's that bad. Bad. J. JFK is not as. I don't like jfk, really. The New York area airports, New York area, including Newark are, are trash. I don't know what. You know, LAX is nice. People try to say LAX has got a lot of good stuff. The International terminal. I can't throw any. Any heat. All right, well, we'll get to your talkbacks and you'll close us out here in a second with your Thanksgiving thoughts. And now you all know where turkey comes from. How many of you. Be honest. How many of you had thought all this time. There's a country and a bird and these things have nothing to do with each other. And now you know. And now you know. Yes, little history bow for the Buckster on this Thanksgiving. You could even say you are thankful for Buck's history nerdness. All right, let's talk about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The prospect of peace in Ukraine is alive again. Nothing is certain. There's a way to go, but the conversation is active. When this war broke out over three years ago, no one imagined all the death and destruction that would be wrought at the time. Time and many nonprofit organizations jumped into the action at first, but today many of the same organizations that raced into Ukraine have moved on. But not the IFCJ or the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. IFCJ is continuing to do what they can to help the Jewish faith in Ukraine, particularly the elderly. The IFCJ with your donations brings hope to those in need. Your gift of $25 goes towards a packed box with life saving essentials that will help feed families and individuals feeling especially ignored and left to fend for themselves. Don't delay. Your gift today will help provide life saving food and hope for those in need. To rush your gift, call 888-488 IFCJ. That's 888-488-4325 or give online@ FellowshipGift.org.
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Episode: Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Nov 26, 2025
Date: November 26, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This pre-Thanksgiving episode features Clay Travis reporting from the Panhandle (Florida) and Buck Sexton from New York City. The duo tackles a mix of politics, history, crime, and holiday spirit, blending serious discussion with levity and listener engagement. Special guests FBI Director Kash Patel and New York Post columnist Miranda Devine join to discuss law enforcement, crime, and the latest on federal investigations, while the hosts also reflect on American history, Thanksgiving, and travel woes.