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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
In April and now I have customers out the door. And this is Sarah.
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Want to be like Jim and Sarah. It's easy. All you have to do is own or manage a business and reach out to iHeart. Get started today at 844-844-IHeart or iheartadvertising.com Second hour of clay and Buck kicks off now, everybody, our friend Mark Simone, Mr. New York will be joining us at the bottom to talk about the New York Mayors race. Also New Jersey governor's race. So some big stuff to dive into with with Mark. Got great sources, connections and insight into both of those contest. So looking forward to that conversation. In the meantime, we have Donald Trump, the one and only, sat down on 60 Minutes with Nora O'. Donnell. This was all over the place. Doing a long form. It was an hour sit down, but I think they only aired like 20 something minutes of it. We wanted to bring you some of the more interesting moments and, and dive into some of that. So here we have first stop because tomorrow is in fact election day. Go vote. As we always say, just make sure you go and do it. It's a good thing to do. Some places they even give you a little sticker that says I voted. You know, it's like when you go to the pediatrician's office. Did you get fuzzy stickers when you go to the pediatrician's office growing up or something? You know, a little like a. Maybe they gave you a Tootsie Roll, which is a song, by the way.
Clay Travis
Oh, I know the song well, but I was not expecting to see as I was sitting at the airport caught in travel hell, as many people are unfortun, you dancing to a song from. Was that the late 90s, early 2000s.
Buck Sexton
Early 90s, like 93, 94.
Clay Travis
Oh, wow.
Buck Sexton
Yes. But I was in fact doing my version of the Tootsie Roll here in studio.
Clay Travis
I did not expect to see that. It was as I was texting and keeping tabs on my flight, I looked down and you're dancing.
Buck Sexton
Clay's telling me that he can't unsee it. I don't even know what that means, you know, but it feels kind of hurtful. Feels kind of hurtful. So, yes, indeed, they, they will give you a. In some place, at least the I voted sticker. Go vote. That's the point. But on Mamdani, Trump had this to say.
Sarah
Play 1 Zorhan Mandami, 34 year old Democratic socialist.
Donald Trump
He's the communist. Not socialist, communist. He's far, he's far worse than a socialist.
Sarah
Some people have compared him to a left wing version of you, charismatic, breaking the old rules. What do you think about that?
Donald Trump
Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him. Right.
Buck Sexton
This is just Trump being Trump. Tell me to have some fun with this. First he slams for being a communist, then he's like a much better, much better looking guy. Trump in his 30s was, I will say, a very, very striking fellow. Flowing hair, jawline, very good, very good. True facts there. But on the Mamdani issue, Clay, this is going to get a lot of national attention if this guy ends up winning, as you have been saying all along. It may pose some problems for Democrats going into the midterms because every indicator is that they should at least pretend they're not going to moderate or to be more moderate, but they should at least pretend to fool voters. That's a little harder to do if you're going to be giving endorsements, for example, to a Mamdani like figure. And without Grandma Pelosi to keep all the members of Congress in line, things could get pretty crazy over there on the Democrat side.
Clay Travis
This is why. And I may have to give my big speech in a positive way tomorrow. And I know that there are a lot of you listening to us in New York City, but I do think that Democrats are incredibly nervous about the idea of Mom Donnie being the face of the Democrat Party because he and AOC are going to become the faces of the Democrat Party in the midterm for next year. Best thing you can say about Mamdani if he wins is that he's going to have no impact and he's not going to be able to put in place the policies that he has campaigned on. And certainly there is an incentive for all of you listening in New York. Upstate New York, which is basically everywhere outside of New York City, is actually not that much different than Alabama. And it sounds funny to people who think of New York defined entirely as Manhattan, as the New York City area. But you get outside an hour outside of New York City, buck, and it might as well be Alabama or Mississippi in, in much, I mean, the number.
Buck Sexton
Of a little, a little, a little.
Mark Simone
More than an hour.
Buck Sexton
But yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
Clay Travis
When we went to Cooperstown, my boys, my kids were blown away by the number of Trump signs that are everywhere all over New York. My point on that is Kathy Hochul has an opportunity next year, I think to make a run as New York City's governor because I think Mamdani is going to get out a lot of voters outside of the Democrats.
Buck Sexton
New York City, the metro area really goes for like the radius is at least an hour in the car in all directions. But Cooperstown, which is a four hour drive. Yes, that's absolutely true. Which is when you get out into more of the rural parts of the state or you know, closer to rural parts of the state, you get very red very quickly. And you know, there's a lot of people that like hunting and they own.
Clay Travis
I think that surprises a lot of people who have spent no time because New York City overwhelms the idea of New York State. Same thing by the way, Pennsylvania, Philly and, and Pittsburgh to a certain extent. But you drive around the state of Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania is like the fourth most rural state in America. And it astounds people because they think of Pennsylvania as being basically Philadelphia. But that's my positive. What I would say right now is if you are looking for reasons of optimism, Jack Cittarelli right now, if Republicans show up in big numbers tomorrow, he's going to win. Now they have to show up in big numbers. But you can look at the voting and, and maybe we get Ryan Gardusky on tomorrow to talk about this on election day. Cause you can look at the number of early votes they have party registration in New Jersey, I'm telling you that roughly party line right now, Chitterelli is down about 250,000 votes. So if Republicans in New Jersey show up big on election day, Chitterelli can win. They are really, really nervous about that. Virginia, this AG's race is going to be very close. Winsome Earl Sears is behind, but it's down ballot. Lieutenant governor looks winnable. Certainly AG is winnable. And who knows if all of you out there in deep red parts of Virginia. Many of these states buck, as you well know, there's a huge difference. I'm not sure any state has more variety in terms of southwestern Virginia, which is as deep red as you can possibly get, and Northern Virginia, which is basically as deep blue as you can get. We need everybody out there in Virginia to show up in big numbers too. And if you're out there and you're saying, okay, I'm not really fired up about the candidates, maybe I get out and vote because they will certainly use any indication of their wins to try to demean and tear down Donald Trump one year after his election and say, look, they're in trouble. There's no way that they can win. We're getting outspent in big numbers, but we have a chance to pull a big upset.
Buck Sexton
You mentioned D.C. i thought this was a, an interesting exchange in the CBS 60 Minute. Sit down here is now Norah O' Donnell lives in D.C. yep. And she, she had to be a little cagey here because she knows if she does the DCs really safe. Everybody else in DC is going to flip out and be like, don't, don't even try that. Ok. So she can't do that. But remember, Trump tried to start with DC to make it safer, and now it hopes to expand that template out to other places. Here's how this exchange went on. Safety, police, security, DC cut 3.
Donald Trump
How big a difference is DC now compared to what it was a year ago?
Buck Sexton
Right.
Donald Trump
I mean, you have to be honest with me. People walk. People in the White House, they walk up to me. Young ladies I've never seen. Sir, thank you very much. I know they don't even have to tell me what they're thanking me for. But when I asked why, he said, one girl said I'd get into Uber and I felt dangerous. Even in Uber, they'd attack the car. Okay. It wasn't even safe then, Sir. I now walk to work every day and I walk, I'm so safe. There's nothing going to happen. 100% safe. And you know that, too. Nora, I want to ask you about, you live here. You know that, too.
Buck Sexton
I want to ask you about, do.
Donald Trump
You see a difference?
Clay Travis
American cities, difference in Washington, D.C. i.
Buck Sexton
Think I've been working too hard.
Clay Travis
I haven't been out and about.
Donald Trump
That's not a fair answer.
Buck Sexton
You see, I get in my car.
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Donald Trump
You don't have to use that one. Don't worry. Don't worry. I don't want to embarrass.
Sarah
I've been working too hard.
Donald Trump
It's like, you know what the difference is? Like day and night.
Buck Sexton
It's interesting that she, she clay a few years ago or in an earlier era of 60 Minutes and Trump, it would have been no, sir. Remember who was it who did the. This is cbs and we can't verify things like I think was Leslie Stahl who did that whole thing to Trump during an interview.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
We can't say things that are not true that they spied on me. Was what Trump said and that absolutely was true. Now she has to sort of laugh it off with like, I work too much. No, Trump's idea is working and she doesn't want to admit it, but she also can't just blatantly lie about it.
Clay Travis
Yes. And I saw they have posted it. This is an example of what we were talking about in that 60 Minutes interview, Buck, they aired 27 minutes of the Trump interview. The actual full length interview was 73 minutes. So the President of the United States talked to you for 73 minutes. Good for CBS. The change that has occurred since the last CBS interview that I think is going to last long after Trump is we're not going to claim that we have all the control here and just make all the edits that we want. We're going to show you the entirety of this 73 minute interview is all out there. If you want to see Trump talk for 73 minutes, you have that ability. But think about the power that they still have editorially to cut that to 27 minutes. And I thought Trump handled that well. And to be fair to Nora o', Donnell, as soon as she says the truth, which is, yeah, D.C. is way safer, people are going to say, oh, she's in the tank for Trump because then she's endorsing his, his behavior in terms of calling out the National Guard. I read a big article though in the Wall Street Journal saying, hey, this is, this is absolutely fantastic what's happening in Memphis, my home state. The number of people out there that are really responding in a very positive way is pretty, pretty phenomenal. And I just think, I mean, again, for everybody out there that is living in these cities, Washington, D.C. memphis, very different cities, they're way safer. And the concern for Democrats, Buck, is, well, if he's right. If he's what? If he's right and all of a sudden violent crime is plummeting. Buck, I watched. Did you see the video of the dad and the little girl out trick or treating get carjacked in Chicago? I don't know how many of you saw this video. I think it's an Asian man. The video is like a ring camera outside. He's got his. The reports are 8 year old daughter, they pull up, they're just going in the neighborhood. They park on the corner. Almost as soon as they park, two guys come running up with guns and take the, take the car. This is a dad in Chicago taking his little girl out trick or treating. Again, the video is out there for all of you to see. You can Watch him pull up and park his car. And within a minute of him pulling up and parking the car to, to start trick or treating, these guys come running up with pistols and demand his keys, wallet, everything else. It's all on a ring camera. And this is just what people have grown used to experiencing.
Buck Sexton
I will say I saw a lot. And this. A friend of mine shared his own version of this because of all these ring cameras where kids with the parents pilfer.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
The steel candy that says take one each, just, just fill their bags. That is disgusting. That is disgusting.
Clay Travis
I agree.
Buck Sexton
And, and, and the parents that are there for this stuff should be ashamed.
Clay Travis
I suspect that has been happening for a long time. But now that everybody has doorbell cameras, we can see. We should have some fun talking about that because I do think you might say, well, why does that matter? I do think, particularly when the parents are involved in, it's just a sign of a low trust cultural society. Like you talked about in Taiwan, people leave their phones to save their seats while they go to the bathroom. And every parent, I've had to talk to my son about this. Like he went to the bathroom recently. And I was like, no, he left his phone on the table. And I said, you know, you can never do that when you go to the bathroom. He was like, well, I want the waitress to know that I'm still here and that I haven't left so she doesn't take my food. I'm like, that makes total sense. I understand it. You can never leave your cell phone on the table in a restaurant in America because we live in, unfortunately, a low trust society. I think stealing of all that candy, like somebody just saying, hey, please take one, and you take the whole thing. It's evidence of a low trust society and a culture that unfortunately is filled with a great deal of rot.
Buck Sexton
Unfortunately, bad cultures, one thing they all have in common is they don't think about other people. Is true all over the world, right? A culture that is not something that you want to emulate, does not care. It is inconsiderate. That is one thing that they have in common. And I will tell you, when I was in Taiwan, I thought when I was on the high speed train a few times, one time I was going down to the military base, I thought, clay, I was in a quiet car, which is a wonderful place of civilization on the Acela train. For those of you who've ever taken that, it's like the only profitable Amtrak corridor is Boston to D.C. and they have this quiet car on that train. I wasn't a quiet car. I was just in a car full of Taiwanese people who are respectful and calm and don't play speakerphone conversations out loud and don't play music and video games without headphones. Yeah, it's not a quiet car. It's just a car full of Taiwanese people. And it was really nice. And let me tell you, this thing that's going on in this country where people are like, oh, it's classist or whatever, it's. No, no, it's just manners. It's just manners.
Clay Travis
Well, it's an ability to understand that you aren't the only person in the world. And I mean, the older I get, the more I look around and culture explains almost everything.
Buck Sexton
But high. You mentioned high trust societies. Civilization and a high trust society within a civilization is premised upon. It can't just be about your needs. Yes, there have to be other things. There are rules. There are laws. There are social mores. There are other things that factor. Anyway, we'll do a whole show on this. Don't even get me started. The candy. The candy swindlers stealing all the candy at once with their parents.
Clay Travis
I know doing appalling. It would also be interesting. Buck. Well, you got to get a break. But if you layered that over future success in life, I bet the kids overwhelmingly underperform because the culture that their parents have created is one that allows that to occur. And it's going to ultimately end up hurting the kids in the years ahead. Look, I want to get you hooked up right now with my friends at prize picks. You can download the app. I'll give you a pick on Thursday. Unfortunately, we lost two. I didn't throw a touchdown pass or Dolphins. Miami, where Buck is. But you can play along. I'm going to give you a pick, more or less. It's really easy. All you have to do is go to prizepix.com, use my name Clay. You can you get $50 and when you play $5. 40 plus states. California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, you can play everywhere. You can play in New York. Now download the prizepix app today. Use my name Clay. $50 instantly when you play $5. That's code Clay on prize picks. 50 bucks when you play $5. Win or lose 50 bucks just for playing. Download the app or go to Prizepix today. That's prizepix.com code clay. Clay. Stories of freedom.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON show. We are breaking down election day tomorrow and we are joined by our friend Mark Simone Bach. I'm going to hold up the iPad here so you can wait so you can wave to him in studio right now.
Mark Simone
Oh, there he is.
Clay Travis
Yeah, there there is New York, Miami. But you guys have known each other for a long time. Let's start off here. Mark, I was just talking about off the air with you. You have done a lot of election days in New York City over the years. How would you break down the New Jersey race just across the river here with so many people out and the close race there? And what do you expect to see in New York City? Big picture, where are we? About, what, 12 hours or so until election day?
Mark Simone
New Jersey, you cannot predict. It's so close. And don't trust these public polls. These public polls are pretty cheap and flimsy. So we can't tell by that. It looks like it's deadlocked. I would think that the campaign of Mikey Sherrill had some serious internal polling and they panicked because Obama had endorsed her a couple of weeks ago with a video that was the endorsement. Now they called him in panic to come running into New Jersey and go actually campaign and hold rallies for her. So that means Cittarelli was very close, if not slightly ahead. One good thing about New Jersey, they never go three terms with any one party. So they're due for a Republican switch now. They always do that in New Jersey. And you got two candidates. Citarelli is a good candidate. Mikey Sherrill, very, very weak. Her whole campaign is that she was in the Navy and she flew a helicopter in the Z. They even rented a helicopter to show that she can fly a helicopter. I don't know that this is even in the job description. She should probably go join the state troopers. They have helicopters they use. It doesn't mean anything as governor, but I would think in the end, Cittarelli wins. It's deadlock. But he always under polls and everybody's got to get out there and vote in New Jersey. Every Republican get out there and vote. And again, they always switch parties every couple of terms So I think he wins that New York mayoral race. Again, you can't tell. It's. We expected 7, 800,000 votes in this election. We're already at almost a million in the early voting. We'll get a million tomorrow. It'll go over 2 million. The model the pollsters used did not count on that at all. Incredible turnout. Last time we saw a turnout like this was like 60 years ago. John Lindsay. So it's hard to say who are these extra people turning out. I mean, anecdotal evidences they're older voters. That tends to go for Cuomo or Curtis again. Here's the other thing, but the polls can't measure this. A lot of these Mamdani voters are first time voters. They're not even on the radar of pollsters. Pollsters wouldn't even know where to find these people. So they're not counted in the poll. So anything can happen. I hate to be wishing.
Buck Sexton
Mark. Yeah, Mark, I got to ask you about this one. As a South Florida resident now, this is certainly on my radar. New York Post, nearly a million New Yorkers claim they are ready to flee New York City if mom Donnie becomes mayor. 765,000 of the eight and a half million residents of New York City. Do you. Do you think there'll be. If mom Donnie wins, which you know it could happen. I know. You're saying nobody knows it could happen. Do you think there'll be an outflow from New York or is this stuff all overblown?
Mark Simone
If there is, then Mondani at least will get credit for solving the traffic problem here in New York. Gridlock.
Buck Sexton
There you go.
Mark Simone
But already in the out the suburbs of Connecticut, we've already seen home people out there looking for homes like crazy. Even the private schools in Connecticut have all sorts of New Yorkers trying to register their kids. So people are looking at it. You got to remember, under Cuomo we had the same problem. We lost a few million people under Cuomo, his bad policies. And in fact, under Cuomo, we lost four congressional seats. And there was one year where you couldn't get a moving van. There was a shortage of them. So we've been through it before. You got to wait and see what happens if Mamdani wins. I don't. There may be people moving out, but I think at a slower pace than you think. And you read about these businesses, big Wall street firms, they're opening in Dallas and most of that is back office stuff that they would have been opening there anyway.
Buck Sexton
Now what is your biggest concern? Though, if Mom, Donnie wins. One question we've been banding about here is what can he really do? That's really bad. Right. Some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like listening to the guy who's running for student council president in high school, who's like. And we're going to have like a Jacuzzi in every classroom. And, you know, it's. It's absurd. Not going to happen. But there are things that as mayor, he would be able to do. What are the concerns that you have, Mark, about if this guy does end up as the mayor? He would be able to really make a mess of things. How?
Mark Simone
Yeah, he has no control over the buses. That's the state. He has no control over rent, anything, taxes. That's the city council. The one concern, and it's the only one, the big one, is the police department. He could put in a really bad police commissioner, a real left wing kook of a police commissioner who could stop enforcing certain laws, pull back the police and all kinds of things.
Clay Travis
I'm glad you mentioned that, Mark, because I was reading over the weekend, Mom, Donnie keeps saying, I'm going to keep Jessica Tish in. But then he got pressed on it. I don't know if you saw this, Buck, because I know you've known Jessica Tisch for a long time. He got pressed on it and he said, well, I haven't actually spoken to her and asked her to stay.
Mark Simone
Yeah.
Clay Travis
So he keeps saying to try to make people think, oh, she's done a good job, New York is safer because she's arresting people and she has done a really good job. But Buck, he hasn't even spoken to her. So, I mean, all the time you spend campaigning and you've never been able or willing to go talk to the head of the NYPD and ask her to stay on. Now, the answer might be that if that were to occur, she would say, well, it's inappropriate for me to talk and accept jobs from people who haven't won offices.
Mark Simone
And.
Clay Travis
But at a minimum, shouldn't he have just conveyed that offer? Don't you think that would make sense if he really thought she was doing a great job?
Mark Simone
Mark, we've all been at the radio stations where the new owner comes in. We're going to keep everybody.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Mark Simone
And they do for about a month or two. So that could be the case. And there are a lot of people saying if he starts playing around with the police department doing stuff like that, she wouldn't stay. She wants to run for mayor. Someday. So if she sees anything bad happening to the police department, she will leave immediately. She's not going to get tied to him. You know, we saw that with de Blasio, those kind of, you know, those crazy ideas of domestic violence, which are the most dangerous calls, having a social worker respond, you know, people don't point out. The NYPD has tested that about 15 times over the last 30 years, and it always ends in dead social workers.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah, that's not a surprise. I mean, the emotionally disturbed person, edp, which is the NYPD shorthand for it.
Mark Simone
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Is a call that cops get a lot, and it's not an easy call if people don't even realize. Mark, sometimes a cop will show up and someone is suicidal, whether they're going to jump or they're going to, you know, take their own life with a firearm, sometimes they decide they're going to take somebody with them right before they go. So it's actually a very high stress and difficult situation, very dangerous situation. And to your point, the notion that you would just send a social worker to try to tell somebody, hey, you know, get away from the edge of the bridge, sometimes they grab people and try to pull them off the other edge of the bridge with them. So, you know, this is what the cops have to deal with on, unfortunately, a far too regular basis. So we got the Mamdani situation playing out here. Cuomo and Sliwa. How much of Sliwa's staying in? Mark, I know you know Curtis personally well, a long time. We had him on the show last week. He made his case and we heard him out on this. How much of what we're seeing is just these two guys just can't stand each other. You know, Cuomo and Cuomo and Sliwa. There's real personal beef.
Mark Simone
Yeah, nobody likes Cuomo. They all, even though everybody voting for will tell you how much they hate this guy. He did so much damage to New York. They hate this guy. But it's like, what was that? Remember the election in New Orleans where the guy was in prison? He just got out of prison. He was the worst guy in the world, but he was running against David Duke. So you had to vote for this ex con. But Curtis, I talked to Curtis earlier today. You know, this thing about getting out of the race. A week ago, he couldn't get out of the race if he wanted to. He can't take his name off the ballot. And if you look at the ballot, this is another problem. It's Mamdani and Curtis. Those are the two names at the top of the ballot. Cuomo is eight spaces down. You gotta go hunt for him on the ballot. And this whole thing is Cuomo's fault. Had he been any good in the primary, he would have beaten Mamdani. Cuomo was a total disaster in the primary, got wiped out in two debates, never campaigned. So he got us in this position. Curtis has been offered all kinds of bribes to get out. The largest was 10 million.
Clay Travis
He told us that on the air last week. So Buck asked a good, like, let's pretend you've lived here a long time. Let's say you wake up tomorrow morning and Mom Donnie goes and wins. And you wake up on Wednesday, your thought is going to be, what?
Mark Simone
Well, at least we stopped quoting.
Clay Travis
You'll have a show to go talk.
Mark Simone
I'll have a. You know, actually, we don't want Mom Donnie to win, but for us, it would probably be the best thing. We'd have plenty to talk about every day. It'd be like the pandemic. You know, I got my highest ratings during the pandemic. Yeah, people were terrified. They listen every day to know what was. So, yeah, we'd have our greatest ratings.
Clay Travis
Well, insanity was so rare, as Buck knows. Living in the New York City apartments, like everybody was losing their minds, and there were very few people speaking sane.
Mark Simone
But.
Clay Travis
So if he wins. Buck asked a version of this question. But I do think, what would be your positive? Do you buy into my argument that it helps in the governor's race, potentially, that Kathy Hochul would have an issue, maybe with Elise Stefanik, it hurts maybe nationally in the House and the Senate, if he wins, if mom Donnie, we wake up on Wednesday and he is the. Is the elected mayor elect of New York City. How do you then assess things?
Mark Simone
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. It's going to help everything to help the midterms. It's going to help Republicans. It'd be great. We'll get wiped out. But in the. It's like your whole house burns down. But it's good for the fire department. It's helping them. But I would tell people, we got through eight years of de Blasio. It was bad, but we got through it in one piece. And most of the Momdani team, they're ex de Blasio team, so it'd be a lot like de Blasio. What.
Buck Sexton
What would you say, Mark? Because you were willing. I remember we talked when Eric Adams first came into office. You were willing to give him a chance to do good things for the city. What would be your, you know, A to F, your grade? He dropped out of the race. He knows he can't win, so he's not going to be mayor anymore. Eric Adams, all in.
Clay Travis
Great.
Buck Sexton
As mayor for the city of New York.
Mark Simone
Well, you see, the problem is to Eric Adams, the first three years, total disaster. He brought in the worst people. Most of them got indicted, arrested. It was horrible. He had some more police commissioners in three years than we had in the last 30. But then the final year was great. He brought in Randy Mastro, who was Giuliani's top guy at city hall. He ran city hall. So you got best guy running city hall. He brought in Jessica Tisch, great police commissioner. In their first month, she cleaned out all the corruption, got rid of 20 or 30 major people there. So the last year he gets an A plus, but the first three years he gets a total F. So I don't know how you grade that. If he had done that year two, he would still be mayor today.
Clay Travis
By the way, this is a bit funny, but Greg Abbott just tweeted Buck after the polls close tomorrow night, I will impose a 100% tariff on anyone moving to Texas from New York City. So look, I mean, where Buck is down in Florida, where I am in Tennessee, I gotta be honest with you, I think there's going to be edit Texas, where Governor Abbott is, I think there's gonna be a lot of New Yorkers saying, heck, I'm going to get screwed here. Why am I paying 14% state income tax when places like Tennessee, Texas and Florida have none? And heck, Buck may not even have property taxes soon. They're talking about doing away with them completely in Florida, which is just another sales point.
Buck Sexton
We should just make him Emperor Desantis of Florida for forever. You know, it's just a governor. It's okay. We just make him Emperor Desantis of Florida would be fabulous. Mark, we'll have to check in with you and see how this all goes tomorrow, but thank you for sharing the expertise. Always appreciate your perspective.
Mark Simone
All right. Thanks for the great show every day.
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Clay Travis
Two guys walk up to a mic. Anything goes Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome in our number three, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton in show. It is election eve in New York City, in New Jersey, in Virginia, vote, vote, vote. New Jersey potentially going to come down to a razor's edge. Virginia, particularly AG's race, Razor Edge as we speak, record potentially high turnout. We're going to talk to Ryan Garduski tomorrow, Buck on the program, which will be a lot Election day. But he tweeted yesterday we very well may be hitting more than 2 million votes by Tuesday night in New York City, the biggest mayoral election in New York City history. So it makes it a little bit difficult to know exactly what is going to happen because as you just heard Marc Simone talking with us, when you get into record high turnout, motivation is high. There are a lot of people that haven't been polled, a lot of people, frankly, that have not voted before. We've seen this in nationwide elections. Trump brought out a lot of people, frankly, that we didn't even know we're going to vote. The same thing happened with Barack Obama. When you go back to that election, 2020, Joe Biden brought out a lot of people that may not even exist because I think more and more, even Democrats are looking at the 81 million votes and they're saying really, really 81 million. But we want all of you to get out and vote. New York, New Jersey, New York City, New Jersey and Virginia. And we will be breaking down all of that 800-282-2882 you can react to to that. I want to say something off the top here, Buck. As we are looking at these numbers you were talking about, you were talking about New York's the Halloween and there are tons of videos that are going viral of the so called, you know, sort of Halloween porch pirates on Friday. The number of people that left out treats. This happened even in my own neighborhood. Some, uh, my wife was showing me some of these videos and kids a lot of times, teenagers frankly, who sometimes make, as all of you well remember, moronic decisions, but also parents that are involved here. And right off the top, we had our last Halloween in the Travis house. We have been in the same house for a decade. I just posted a photo, gave out 17 bottles of Fireball shots to all the moms and dads, the neighborhood that we lived in in Franklin, Tennessee. I can say it now, I think, I don't know that I ever said it before. West Haven, you've been there, Buck. One of the greatest neighborhoods, I think in the entirety of the United States. We, after a decade are moving, not going to do Halloween there anymore. But Halloween has been phenomenal. Thanks to everybody who has been so great to my family for over a decade of living there. Super sad yesterday when I left because, you know, you raise your family in a house, at some point you're going to be in this experience. You got a six month old, we moved into that house. My youngest was in a, in a crib. He now is in fifth grade. So it's just been in a tremendous experience there. I would describe where I lived as, generally speaking, a high trust community where everybody looks after everybody else's kids. And it's a fantastic place to live as a result. And everybody comes around and mostly with the parents. You take one little piece of candy at a time. But as you see all of these different stories about these ring cameras and everybody coming along and just dumping the entire thing into their bag. I do think this is culture, Buck. And when you lose culture, you lose the country. And it might sound small, but I do think it's a metaphor of a low trust society that unfortunately exists in much of America now.
Buck Sexton
Well, we're just talking about the circulation of videos all over the country. Remember, these are usually with parents present. That's the part, that's the part that.
Clay Travis
I think is significant.
Buck Sexton
So there are parents who are watching their kids now. Now let's like work through this process for a second. They're watching their children, maybe, you know, 11, 12, 13. It's really not like young kids that are doing this. It's not 5 year olds, it's, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13 year olds, maybe 14 year olds that are just pillaging the. Take one piece of candy for yourself. Why is that the rule? Or why is that the request so that other people can get their candy. Right. It's very. And also, you see these kids, it's not like they're taking a handful and we're saying, oh, they're only supposed to take one. Okay, a handful is fine. No one's got a problem with that. There are videos with parents watching. Ok, the parents of these kids where they take like the candy bowl and they dump the whole thing.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
You know, five pounds of candy. They dump it into their bag and they're kind of laughing and gleeful about this and then they, you know, hurriedly walk away. And it's just a disgrace. It's disgusting. And, you know, this is one of these things. You see what you see. You know, we're in this era where there is video all over the place and everywhere of everything. And, you know, people, we should bring back shame a little bit in this country. Like, if you're doing this stuff and people know and your neighbors know, like, you should feel ashamed.
Clay Travis
I agree.
Buck Sexton
You should be ashamed. You should apologize. You know, there's all these. I remember even near me where there was all the theft going on clay. There was a grocery store near me that had the photos of the. Of the repeat shoplifters. And there have been efforts to sue them to. How dare you. And you know, you're not allowed to show this. It's like, why are people okay with this?
Clay Travis
This is.
Buck Sexton
This should be something that we all are. Are clearly against. And it's just a shame that on something that should be as joyful and innocent as, you know, Halloween trick or treating. There are people who are being really gross about the whole thing. A lot of them by. This isn't like one person. There's a lot of this going on.
Clay Travis
No, I think totally. And people can say, well, what's the significance, you know, of this? I do think it is representative of low trust in culture. And I talked about in Chicago, dad and daughter going out trick or treating. Dad pulls up in a car and instantly the car gets stolen. Somebody runs up with a gun, puts it in his face, just trying to take the little girl out trick or treating. And I do think that what you will see likely occur is the parents that are allowing this to happen and even encouraging it to happen have raised kids that are going to have a lot of issues in the years ahead because they have lost the ability to interact in an honest culture. And to your point, teenagers do stupid things. And so to me, the parents watching it and even encouraging it is a substantial part of this. But I Think it speaks also to. And I know there are strict moms, but we had a big conversation about this. I think it speaks also to. A lot of times dads are enforcers in households, of course, you know, particularly young men, boys, they respond to dad as a household influencer more than they do to mom. That doesn't mean that moms out there aren't often forced to do incredible jobs both raising, trying to play the role of both parents because a lot of men are absent. But this reminds me, Buck, of. Remember the big study they did? This is why I think it would be true if you could run it out for years. One of the best signs of your ability to succeed in life is can you defer rewards. And they have that great the, the.
Buck Sexton
Like either it's a donut or a cookie.
Clay Travis
Marshmallow was the initial one. They tell you, for those of you who haven't seen this study. And they actually have funny videos of this of little kids trying to avoid a treat, right? And they basically come in and they say, hey, if you can wait a certain amount of time, we'll give you two. And so there's a treat on the table and it's sometimes a cookie doughnut. I think it started with marshmallows. And they'll be like, hey, little kid, if you can wait, then we'll give you double. And what they have been able to find is the kids that are able to defer the reward have overwhelmingly higher levels of success than the kids who take the immediate gratification in front of them. And to me, this is a sign of that. Right? Hey, you're still going to get a lot of candy. I mean, my son came home with a, with a whole pillowcase full of candy, but you have to put in the time to go from one house to another or you can run up and dump the whole thing in at once. I think you're going to see that the life results are actually negative for the kids that are doing this.
Buck Sexton
There's also very clear, very clear data on delaying gratification and IQ level. So now you start to get into this part of the conversation as well. Higher IQ corresponds directly with greater likelihood to be willing to delay gratification for better reward. So this is true. You, any of you can see, you can check this out. Dumber people want it right now. Yeah, just true.
Clay Travis
No, I mean, look, I, and, and look, for being a parent, I would argue one of the most important things you do as a parent is teach your kids to play the long game, get good Grades in school. Do you get immediate gratification because you make good grades in school? In eighth grade? Not necessarily. Do you get immediate gratification for doing your homework every single night, for showing up at class, for taking tough courses? Not immediately. But you play the long game and over time, good decisions lead to better outcomes. And this is a big part, you know, candidly of what I wrote about. And I'm asking you to go buy the book. To buy the book. Balls. It's all about how do we raise better, younger, more successful men. And this is something that I spend a lot of time thinking about. And when I saw these videos of these porch pirates stealing all the candy, I couldn't help but think, there's a lot of absent dads, I bet, and moms, but particularly dads when it comes to bad behavior by kids. So you got to be shameless. The book is out tomorrow. I asked you in the first hour. I'm going to talk about it tomorrow. Can you drive this to the top 10 best sellers on Amazon? That would mean a tremendous amount to me. All of the proceeds going to charity. Just gotta sell. The Book is Balls. I'm holding it up on the video feed from our New York City studio. You're gonna see me all over Fox News selling this book. But it would mean a lot to me if you guys would go buy a copy and give it to someone else. Buy a copy for somebody that you think needs some balls in their life either, metaphorically speaking. Again, it's everywhere. It's going to be in every bookstore. My name, Clay Travis. The book is Balls. Please go buy it. Buck's going to have a book out in, in January. I'm told the publisher is very happy.
Buck Sexton
I bought a copy of Balls. I Got Balls on the Way.
Clay Travis
You Got Balls on the Way is a roommate who loves Polish sausages. Told him, hey, you might as well add some balls to it, too.
Buck Sexton
You know, I'm going to throw this out there because I didn't want to. I didn't want to start this once again, because he actually is a real roommate from the Chicago area. He also was a robe guy, which maybe is not surprising.
Clay Travis
Polish sausage guy being a robe guy. I mean, I think that, you know.
Buck Sexton
I'm just saying he also would walk around our dorm room in, in a row or, you know, our dorm housing in a robe all the time. So Polish sausage and robe, they can go hand in hand. You never know.
Clay Travis
By the way, we need to talk about this, too. I bet a lot of our listeners are caught up in air traffic control. I'm just seeing Houston has told people you may have a three hour wait to get through tsa. Buck, I traveled, I was trying to come back from Chicago on Friday. This is if you're out there and you're not a federal employee. I think some of the situations right now with delays has turned into a crazy. You know who I saw actually Sunday as I was traveling to New York City? Our friend Margo, President Trump's top assistant. I come right through security. She is awesome, does incredible behind the scenes work for President Trump. She just got back from Asia and she was at the Ohio State football game over the weekend. And I come through security. It's TSA is kind of a mess everywhere.
Mark Simone
Boom.
Clay Travis
Margo who does Margo Martin, who does incredible work for President Trump right there in the Nashville airport. But this is the lead story right now on cnn Travel Misery as people are having issues with TSA air traffic control. They shut down Nashville's airport on Friday for several hours over this. This is where I think a lot of people are starting to get very, very frustrated about the shutdown because it starts to impact their individual lives.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Monday edition of the program. I just took a picture of it so I have it on my phone. Buck Final New York City mayoral poll from Atlas Intel. They have an A plus rating in terms of. They have been one of the more reliable polls out there. Their final poll, Momdani 44% Andrew Cuomo 39% Curtis Sliwa 15 and a half percent. According to them, without Sliwa in the race, Cuomo would be winning by five points over Mamdani. So we may well wake up on Wednesday as we talked last week with Curtis Sliwa and the results may be that if Sliwa had chosen not to run or dropped out at some point and endorsed Cuomo, Mamdani would have lost. But by dividing potentially the vote totals now, we will see. Because there are record amounts of turnout underway, it may be that having double opponents has allowed mom Donnie, a socialist at best, communist at worst, to take over our nation's largest city. Uh, okay. And some of you may be saying culturally, the impact. I wanted to play this. This is. Did you see this yet, Buck? A. Well, first let me play. Was the woman in Los Angeles area Gold's Gym. To confirm, this is a video that has gone very viral. A woman in LA is a Gold's Gym workout person. I guess a. A customer would be one way of saying it of the Gold Gem. And she was kicked out of Gold's Gym and they ended her membership because she complained about a man using the women's locker room in the Gold's Gym. We've had to edit it a bit, but this has gone mega viral. Listen.
Buck Sexton
Men, grown men with big in a women's locker room. And that's why I'm getting kicked out.
Clay Travis
And I want to make sure the.
Buck Sexton
Girls know everybody saw that man in the locker room. No one saying, and I'm done with it.
Clay Travis
It's stupid.
Buck Sexton
It's dangerous. Me naked in front of a man without my permission.
Clay Travis
But I'm the one who get kicked.
Donald Trump
Out the gym, y'.
Mark Simone
All.
Buck Sexton
I'm terminating for not wanting men in the locker room.
Clay Travis
Okay, now you can hear she's a little fired up. A little bit of salty language there. This has gone mega viral. Someone recorded her complaining because she has been banned from Gold's Gym. Not the man with, as you heard, male genitals in the women's locker room, but this woman, black woman, to the extent that you care about race, that is out there. She has now gone viral for speaking out about this, Buck. I see it connected here because this was the LA women's soccer team. So one of the women at on the LA Angel City women's soccer team did a article for the New York Post saying we need to have men out of women's sports. This is a professional soccer player. New York Post ran it. The angel fc, also in Los Angeles. Players said that the women's soccer player who said women's soccer should only be made up of women said that she was racist and transphobic. Their teammate. They had a press conference to respond to it. This is cut 28. We pulled some of the cut.
Sarah
Listen, that article does not speak for this team in this locker room. I've had a lot of combos with my teammates in the past few days and they are hurt and they are harmed by the article and also they are disgusted by some of the things that were said in the article. And it's really important for me to say that. And we don't agree with the things written for a plethora of reasons, but mostly the undertones come across as transphobic and racist as well. The article calls for genetic testing on certain players and it has a photo of an African player as a headline. And that's very harmful. And to me it's inherently racist because to single out this community based on them looking or being different is. Is absolutely a problem. And as a mixed woman with a Bellack family, I'm devastated by the undertones of this article.
Clay Travis
I saw this last night, Buck, and I couldn't. I watched the whole press conference. The racist part of this article is they took a photo of Caster Semenya, who is a man that has been winning women's biologically male, has been winning women's races, happens to be from Africa, but is a sign of a man competing in women winning women's championships. The New York Post picked the picture. The author, the women's soccer player who wrote this piece, which I think is actually brave. I can't believe we need to do it. But when I mean to speak out and call her racist and transphobic for saying, hey, we need to have rules in place to ensure that men can't compete in women's professional soccer. This is the same city where this woman is going viral for saying, hey, how am I getting canceled in gold's gym. This is a real thing the Democrats are in favor of, including Abigail Spanberger, who is running for governor in. In Virginia.
Buck Sexton
You know, why do they test for steroids in. In men's sports? You know why? You're not necessarily better just because you're hitting the juice real hard. And, you know, I mean, you can make a lot of these same arguments for that. Like, well, is it really unfair? Don't you still have to do the things you're doing? It's not proven that every person who takes steroids is going to be so much stronger than other people who don't. I'm sure there are some people on steroids who. It just all sounds like nonsense, doesn't it? By the way, somebody should write a book called Balls where they discuss many of these controversies a lot about this. Clay. I think that this is one of the surprises that many of us have after this last election. The Democrats are not backing off this at all. They are continuing to push for this. And I start to think that the only way that maybe we start to get beyond this is we're going to have to start recruiting guys in all these different sports.
Clay Travis
I agree.
Buck Sexton
Who will do the bare minimum, the bare minimum required to say that they are trans. And then they will have to defeat women's professional sports teams by like 100 to 0, which is what would actually happen. If you got male basketball players, if you actually got male athletes in these sports, they don't have to be pro level, but they just have to be good.
Clay Travis
Yep.
Buck Sexton
You know, if you got. If you had a T. If you had teams of D1 level men for these different team sports trying to play against these women's pro teams, they would absolutely annihilate them and it wouldn't even be close. And if they do that enough, if. If there's a team of, quote, trans women that goes undefeated and wins every soccer game 10, nothing would then they start to.
Clay Travis
Or would they?
Buck Sexton
I don't know, by the way, maybe that wouldn't be enough. Clay. I don't know. I start to think that this is such a. It's a little bit like the climate change thing. It's become such a religious belief for people that they will not move their thinking on the subject whatsoever. It does not matter what reality is presented to them or how much reality is presented to them. They just don't care.
Clay Travis
I. Look, I don't. I don't understand how it has become the party, the position of the Democrat Party, that men should be able to walk around in women's locker room with, you know, full male genitalia and still be claiming that they are women. And to your point, Buck, I have offered to pay a man to identify as a woman and go play in the wnba. Maybe I need to expand it to the national women's Soccer League. So if you are out there listening right now and you are a talented male soccer player, to Buck's point, let's say you play D1 men's soccer and you want to identify as a woman and try to make a women's pro soccer team. I think we have to just call out the absurdity of these arguments. It's not racist, it's not transphobic. It's not sexist. There's just a real biological difference here. So if you are a male soccer player and you are listening to us right now, D1, I would encourage you to go to open tryouts. If you make a women's soccer team or they ban you, just say you identify as a woman. If you make a women's soccer team, I'll pay you 100 grand. Challenge out there for every men's. Every man listening to us right now. I want one of you out there to try to make a women's pro soccer team. Just tell them if they question you, hey, I identify as a woman, and I want you to make the team. Because if they don't have this rule in place, it would be transphobic for them to stop you from being able to become a male identifying as a woman professional athlete. And I think you might be able to score 50 goals in a year. And maybe this is what needs to happen in the National Women's Soccer league, because again, this is angel fc, I think they're called. This is Bob Iger. The CEO of Disney owns this team. Buck, did you know that the CEO of Disney, Bob Iger, that owns espn, he and his wife own this LA soccer team that just said it's transphobic and racist for one of their players to say men shouldn't be able to play women's Sports. I'm putting 100 grand on the table for all male soccer players out there. Figure out how to make a team if you make it. If you make a team and play in a game, I'll give you 100.
Buck Sexton
Grand, which is probably more than a lot of the female, more than they.
Clay Travis
Make soccer leagues, more than the women's average soccer player makes. I will give you 100 grand, my own money. If you are a man listening to us right now and you can make a national women's soccer league team.
Buck Sexton
I really do wonder what is the basis in some of these leagues currently? If you say you're.
Clay Travis
That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Buck Sexton
You know, you and I. You and I have some facial hair going. If I just showed up. If I didn't do the thing where I get, like, super fake long nails and grow my hair out long or get a wig and put a bunch of rouge on my cheeks or whatever, like, if I just show up and say I'm actually a chick, do they have to let me try out?
Clay Travis
It'd be transphobic not to. I mean, who gets. I mean, who gets to make the determination of. I mean, if the guy's walking around in the Gold's Gym in LA and he's got. What's the phrase that we can use? Got a penis. I'm trying to think of the word. Sorry.
Buck Sexton
Male equipment.
Clay Travis
Male equipment. He's got the. He's got the carrot and the broccoli, and he's just walking around like it's pretty clear that he's a dude. I'm just. I think the penis and the balls are undefeated in terms of male genitalia defining the gender. Although, you know, they like to argue now that sometimes doctors at birth get it wrong. I don't know. I was there for three births when they held the baby up, I was like, hey, I got a pretty good sense of what gender I've got.
Buck Sexton
I've always thought it's interesting, too, that they ex. They explicitly deny that this is about intersex, formerly called hermaphrodite individuals.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
Which is a very rare genetic.
Clay Travis
Unfortunate. Very rare. Yes, Very rare.
Buck Sexton
But it's not that. It's never about that, because then you could. You can deal with that biologically, by the way, they're generally much more male or much more female. It just has to do with the sex organs. But actually, the rest of the. You know, there's.
Clay Travis
Historically, they would have defined as one way or the other before we had gender testing. They would have just decided, hey, and it's unfortunate, but it's highly irregular that you basically have almost, you know, like Klein syndrome of Klinefelter or something like that. I think, if I'm not mistaken.
Buck Sexton
But that is not. This is. This is a. This is truly. I say therefore I am is the basis of this. And also, they don't want to get into hormone stuff either, Clay, because. Well, hold on a second. Why? If you have to take hormones to make you the thing, then how are you affirming that you're transforming, you're not affirming. Right. So that's why it has to be a psychological thing. It can't be that your biochemistry is changed and therefore you are because you're altering your biochemistry. So there's clearly a physical basis for this. Like, why do you have to do that to be a woman? If you only have to say you're a woman and then you're a woman? It's, it is the, it is the height of crazy. But here we are. All right, let's talk about something that actual women have to deal with, and that is unplanned pregnancies and the pressures that can come with them in our society. And Planned Parenthood is out there saying, come to us. And unfortunately, there's a lot of abortion that's happening across the country right now. This is where preborn clinics come in. Preborn clinics introduce women to their babies when they come in via a free ultrasound. Because when mom sees that tiny baby inside her, hears that heartbeat, she realized that there are so many hope filled choices for her when she chooses life. And preborn continues walking with her for up to two years, providing maternity clothes, diapers, counseling, and so much more. Preborn cares for the whole woman, mind, body and soul, and the precious baby growing inside her. So as you think about your year end giving, consider the greatest investment you could ever make. The gift of life. There are hundreds of thousands of mothers to be in this situation today. As the year comes to a close, your tax deductible donation can be the difference between life and death. Would you consider a leadership gift to save babies in a big way? Your gift of 5, 10 or $15,000 will be used to save countless babies for years to come. To donate, dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250, say baby. Or go online and donate securely@preborn.com Buck preborn.com V U C K Sponsored by Preborn.
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Episode: Nov 3, 2025
Main Theme:
With Election Day looming, Clay and Buck dissect pivotal upcoming elections in New York, New Jersey, and Virginia, spotlight America’s deepening cultural and political divides, and zero in on the potential consequences of a major Democratic upset in New York. They blend sharp political analysis with commentary on viral cultural flashpoints, including crime, trust in society, and controversies around gender and sports.
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Takeaway:
New York and New Jersey’s closely monitored elections could have ripple effects for national Democratic strategy and Republican optimism.
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Notable Moments:
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This episode provides a sweeping look at the stakes and drama surrounding high-profile off-year elections in New York and New Jersey, peppered with cautionary tales about America’s culture wars—from “low trust” Halloween antics to gender controversies in sports and gyms. Guest Mark Simone infuses the episode with sharp, local expertise. The hosts’ blend of news, cultural commentary, and playful provocation is on full display, making the show both entertaining and incisive for those invested in America’s political and cultural trajectory.