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Buck Sexton
Liquid detergent welcome in everybody. Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now and we're still settling in on those election results a little bit. We're still getting used to the reality for our fellow Americans and New Yorkers that they got a tough road ahead with their soon to be mayor. But it's going to be all right, as we said. Also Virginia, New Jersey. Close but no cigar in New Jersey.
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Clay Travis
Virginia.
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Buck Sexton
A blowout, but it's okay. It's okay.
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Clay Travis
We move onward. We move forward.
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Buck Sexton
Remember, Trump is still the president. We are still a majority in the House and the Senate. And it has been. We are in November. We're getting close to when I can say this, and I'm not going to be all sappy about it, Clay. I'm not going to get all saccharine here on the air, but I do think this is one of the best years overall, overall, in terms of policy achievement, direction of a presidency that I can remember. The economy is booming. There are problems and we should address those. There are affordability issues. There are inflation, really lingering inflation issues. Right. It's not that inflation keeps going up. It's that prices rocketed up. Thank you, Biden. And as Clay has said many times, it's true, once they go up, very hard for them to come down for a whole bunch of reasons. So they tend to continue to go up over time. So we've got that to work, work through and we'll discuss it. We've also, Clay still got a shutdown happening, which I have to say the shutdown better end soon. They better shut that down because people are going to really get frustrated with some of what's going on here. The lack of air traffic controllers able to come on the job. They're not getting paid. And I can understand this. You're doing a critical job as an air traffic controller. It is a critical job, by the way. It's one of those things where you want really good professional air traffic controllers. No question about it. You know, Clay, the biggest airline disaster in history in terms of casualties, not including 9, 11 was a terrorist attack. But the biggest airline disaster in history was really an air traffic control issue. And it was on, I want to say Tenerife island, you know, one of those, like islands in the, in Atlantic. And it was two jets that one was taking off and one was taxiing.
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Clay Travis
Oh, no.
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Buck Sexton
And they, and they hit each other. My point being that was a long time ago. But if you check that one out, producer Greg, do a quick one, a quick number on that one because it was horrible. It was hundreds and hundreds of people lost their lives in it. Air traffic control is really important, is my point. And we want air traffic controllers to be paid. Yes, sir.
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Clay Travis
And we've got to cut on that because they have announced that we are going to have a 10% reduction in scheduled flight capacity at 40 different high traffic markets. This is yesterday. Sean Duffy letting us know that that is now out. And so I would encourage all of you out there to make sure that you are closely following. If you're traveling, I'm traveling tomorrow. I'm already presuming that getting out of New York City is going to be a disaster, Buck. But Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary here, he is talking about it. I anticipate there'll be additional disruptions, there'll be frustration. We are working with the airlines, they're going to work with passengers. But in the end, our sole role is, is to make sure that we keep this airspace as safe as possible. The administrator is going to talk about all of the, the tools we're going to deploy.
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Buck Sexton
One of them though is going to.
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Clay Travis
Be that there is going to be a 10% reduction in capacity at 40 of our locations. The administrator is going to tell you.
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Buck Sexton
That it's been, this is data based.
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Clay Travis
This is not based on what airline travels, has more flights out of what location. This is about where is the pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure. I mean, this is going to be a mess, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
It is going to be a mess. By the way, just as a fact, update here. Yeah, I was right. It was Tenerife and Clay. This was back in 1977, 583 fatalities, worst airline disaster, not including 9 11, which was man made terrorism, but worst airline disaster in history and it was taxiing on the Runway. My point being air traffic control, we all want them to be staffed, paid and really good. And one problem we've already seen, and this is from a lot of what Secretary Duffy has been saying about this, is that the air traffic control system is really outdated. It needs to be fixed in general. So now we're taking an outdated system, putting additional strain on it because of personnel, because Chuck Schumer doesn't want the left wing base of his party to be able to mount a challenge against him. I mean, when you start to add up what's going on here, it is gross. Oh, by the way, Nancy Pelosi is not running, speaking about a great year in American politics. That's official too. She's out at 85 years young. So there you go.
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Clay Travis
That's at least one positive. Trump has reacted to that already in typical Trumpian fashion. And look, I, I think this air traffic issue is going to start to get people angry on a level that maybe they haven't been before, if that makes sense. I mean, we're going to be talking about this impacting everybody. We shared and talked about the video of Houston, which I'm told is already always has a major issue there. But three and a half Hours, four hours for tsa. I bet a lot of you, if you see a line that long, just want to turn around and go back home. And I think the anger over this is going to grow. Now, there have been some reports, Buck, that Democrats were emboldened by their wins in Virginia and in New Jersey and in New York City and have decided to be more aggressive in demanding some sort of changes. Trump obviously has said so let's go ahead and end the filibuster, because the reason why we have this shutdown right now is we have to get to 60 votes. And right now I don't believe we've gotten past 56, I think, or 57. There are at least three or four more Democrats who need to vote to open back up the government. We'll see whether the final results coming down will get things fixed. My bet would be that we would have some sort of resolution by early next week. I don't know where you are on this, but that could grow faster. And here trump on cut 30, buck to build on that, is super angry about the shutdowns, it appears, and he wants drastic action. There were reports that he talked to the Senate Republicans yesterday and said it's time to end the filibuster. This has been an ongoing debate for basically as long as I can remember, politics existing. Here is cut 30, Trump saying once and for all, let's end the filibuster.
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Buck Sexton
I think that if we got rid of the filibuster, we would approve so many good things, common sense things, wonderful things, that it would be hard to beat us if we don't. It's always going to be a slog. So I do say this. I would say absolutely without question. I have no doubt in my mind, get rid of it and the Republicans should do it. But they have a number of Republicans that don't agree. And you know what? It's a question. Do I want to lose my relationship with those Republicans that have been very good to me for a long period of time that voted against the crooked Democrats on impeachment and everything else? Do I want to lose them over it? I think it's a very important point. Do you ever have people that are wrong, but you can't convince them, so do you destroy your whole relationship with them or not? I'd be close to losing it, but probably not.
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Clay Travis
That's really funny, working through all that. Buck, my general position on the filibuster, we talked about it earlier. I don't want Democrats to suddenly be able to add Puerto rico and Washington, D.C. if they have 50 votes, plus the, plus the president, I don't want them to be able to expand the Supreme Court. I get the frustration. I personally am not in favor of ending the filibuster. I don't know what your take is because eventually it ends up blowing up on you.
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Buck Sexton
This is the, this is the. I wish I could take the counterpoint to you because it's more fun to argue with you. But on this one, we would. Our team Trump would use it to try to push policies that then people can judge the effectiveness of or not. And his thing is, I would do such good things that the American people would be so in favor of Democrats, once the filibuster is gone, will do exactly what you're talking about, which is permanently stack the deck so you will have no more Trump like administrations. You will have no more Republican administrations. And that then becomes the challenge. Now, people might say they're going to do that anyway when they have a majority that's fair. But, you know, it's a little bit like nuclear deterrence right now, right? I mean, do you really want to fire first? I don't know.
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Clay Travis
They're going to be more diabolical. I think they could do things that are more detrimental. And I just named three. Imagine what the impact would be if Puerto Rico becomes a state and they get two Democrats. Washington D.C. becomes a state and they get two Democrats and they decide, hey, instead of having nine Supreme Court justices, we should have 13. And the new Democrat appointed. The new Democrat president appoints suddenly four Supreme Court justices and everything changes. The reason why the filibuster makes sense in my opinion, is it stops crazy exaggerated movement. Sometimes the crazy exaggerated movement can be in your favor. Sometimes it's going to be on the other side. And honestly, this already kind of blew up on Democrats with the Supreme Court. As One thing Mitch McConnell got right was they essentially eliminated the filibuster for Supreme Court justices. And they, when they did it to, to allow the justices to get through with just a majority vote. That was what McConnell said. And the Democrats certainly have lost out to the Republicans when it comes to justices as passing with a bare majority since they passed that law. So change that law. I think you have to be very careful adjusting long precedent for expedient current events.
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Buck Sexton
One thing to be reminded of, though, is that Clay, the Democrats shot first, so to speak, on that. So Harry Reid, the Democrats decided and then had to live with the reality when things change. But then the Democrats were claiming that Republicans did it first of Course. So that's like, we're like, guys, if you do this, we're going to do this. They did it. And then when we did it, they said, why are you doing it first?
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Clay Travis
Well, this is also one of the great challenges of communication in general. Democrats shut down the government. This is their choice. But lots of people out in America believe that Republicans are the ones who shut down the government. So they say, well, Republicans are in control of the House and Senate, but yeah, you got to have 60 votes to be able to move anything. And Democrats are the ones that won't allow things to move. But a lot of Democrat base voters believe that it's actually Republicans to blame on this issue. So, yes, they will just lie no matter what. But I think they are more diabolical than Republicans are. And so if you end the filibuster, then there will be, I think, worse results for Republicans ahead than any benefit you get in the short term.
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Buck Sexton
To be fair, Trump, let's say he ends the filibuster, obviously it would be the Senate. But if he says, let's do this, guys, and they go along with it, we seize Greenland, they're not going to make a peep. We'd say Greenland is now a state. We fill it with maga. You know, we tell all. We have a, like a. All hands on deck. MAGA from I've got a bunch of New Yorkers that would probably move there right now who are Republicans.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And you know, I mean, we could stack the deck too. We, we grab Greenland. What was the other one he's thinking about? We don't want Canada. Too many.
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Clay Travis
Panama Canal. We take Panama Canal.
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Buck Sexton
We seize a Panama Canal. Trump maybe crowns himself king for life. I don't know. Libs cry.
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Clay Travis
Here's a fun question. Here's a fun question for you. Building on that, how many different seizure of territory plans do you think there are in the Pentagon right now? And how many different countries like that just war, you know, sort of warp game. Like if Hegseth wanted to. Is there a America seizes? I think certainly there is. Greenland, Iceland, Canada.
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Buck Sexton
We invaded Grenada.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, so this is like, you know.
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Clay Travis
Invading a meeting of the Rotary Club.
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Buck Sexton
Down the street or something. I mean, this is like we invaded Grenada, so I'm sure we got plans.
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Clay Travis
To do so how many countries do you think we have plans? Venezuela for sure. Like there's some where it's called, you know, right now, sociopolitical flashpoints defend Taiwan. I'm sure all that's game planned out. I would like to know the most unexpected country, that we have plans. If we had to take it over, currently at the Pentagon, that would be amazing.
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Buck Sexton
Question. I still think Greenland, you will be ours. Oh, yes, you will be ours. Just a matter of time. In an ideal situation, my friends, in an ideal situation, everything is planned out, including, you know, what goes on in your life. But pregnancies happen. And for a lot of women out there, there's an unplanned pregnancy that occurs. They're scared and they're getting pressure, and the pressure is often go to a Planned Parenthood clinic and take care of it. That's so sad. We don't want that to happen. And that's why preborn is there for all of us who are pro life to save the lives of tiny babies and to help these mothers bring their children into this world. I want to share the story of Victoria because Victoria found herself at a Planned Parenthood facility. She was scared and confused, and they gave her the abortion pill. But she knew that would be a tragic mistake. So she went to a preborn clinic and they said, no, no, let's have you meet the baby in your womb. They showed her via ultrasound, the little heartbeat, the little head, little hands. And guess what? She had a beautiful baby girl. $28. $28 is what it costs to give that free ultrasound to women in clinics across America right now, preborn clinics that are there saving lives and giving love and support to these women in a difficult situation. I went to the preborn clinic here in Hialeah, Miami, and let me tell you, it was powerful. And I met some of the little girls who are here in this world today, actually boys and girls here in this world today because their moms went into a preborn clinic. So it's a great time of year as we're getting up on the holidays and thinking about donations and giving to give to Preborn. $28 would be fantastic if you can dial £250 and say the word baby on the phone. That's £250 from your phone. Say the word baby. $28 would be great. Some of you are high rollers. You own your own business, maybe you own a whole bunch. You got a franchise, you got money to spare. You can make a $2,800 donation and you might save 100 babies lives in the process. And it's tax deductible. 2,800 bucks for some of you. $28 for most of you. Whatever you can spare, dial pound 250, say the keyword baby or go to preborn.com buck preborn.com buck do it now because life matters. Sponsored by Preborn Making America great again.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Katie Miller
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Clay Travis
Liquid detergent we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Big story right now is that the FAA is looking to reduce air traffic by 10% at 40 different airports. CNN says the Trump administration is considering a 4% cut overall in the number of flights. This is potentially going to be the thing that gets the government shut down fixed. Buck I think is when a lot of so called normal people trying to go about their day to day existence show up at the airport and can't manage to go anywhere. To say nothing of Buck. The fact that Thanksgiving is typically the busiest travel time of the year. Basically. I know Christmas travel season is substantial as well, but there are more days that people travel on for holiday travel around Christmas. The Thanksgiving holiday is more compact as makes sense. And so I would just say in general, put a safety pin in this. If you, like me, are going to be traveling tomorrow, I would say be hitting refresh quite frequently to see what might or might not be happening with your air travel. And I don't know about you, Buck, if I didn't have to travel, if I'm out there and I'm like, hey, I'm thinking about taking this trip but maybe it makes sense to go another, I would cancel it. I just. There's nothing worse than being stuck in a place that you don't want to be waiting to see whether you're going to be able to get on an airplane or not. Hotels fill up. You can't. You have to consider, especially if you have kids, you have to consider trying to sleep somewhere that you don't want to be. Inevitably, for all of you have had this happen. If you have an evening flight, they try to schedule you for a flight at 5:30 in the morning or something so they don't tell you your flight's canceled till 11 and then you got to be back in like three or four hours. Everybody's miserable. I'm already nervous about being able to get out of here tomorrow. But this is the lead story right now on Fox News, MSNBC and cnn. Everybody is covering the potential airport related issue. So I want to update you on all of that, just make you aware of it as it could continue to be an issue going forward. We are continuing to break down what happened on Tuesday. We got a bunch of you who want to weigh in. We'll take some of your calls. I would like to say thank you to everybody who has been buying my book. It came out two days ago. We got a call, Buck, saying we have been flagged to be surveyed by the New York Times, which has never happened before. So if you guys will continue, please to go buy the book. I think we got a good shot to get on the New York Times bestseller list.
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Buck Sexton
It's really in your best interest to have a copy of Balls.
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Clay Travis
And if you know somebody who doesn't have balls, it's a great Christmas gift to just say, hey, got you a pair of balls for, for Christmas. But in all seriousness, I think you'll enjoy it. I also read it, Buck, you were saying part of your Christmas break is now going to be spent. I looked at my reading of the book is over six hours now. That probably double the amount of time that it took at Least to make a six hour recording. You got three days scheduled in the recording studio. Is that what you've got right now?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Oh. Oh, Buck, it's Christmas. Think about family and Santa and trees and all that good stuff and, and yuletide cheer and three days in your home radio studio recording the book that you took two years to write. Ah, the things we do for content, my friends. The things we do to bring you the best.
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Clay Travis
And you have to be shameless. I was on Glenn Beck earlier. Thank you for Glenn Beck. I've been on Fox News all over the place. I'm gonna be on with Sean Hannity tonight. And so anything on his radio show. I was on Sean Hannity last night. If you guys would please go buy it, Amazon Clay Travis, type it in, the book comes up. I deeply appreciate it. Okay, we didn't play this.
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Buck Sexton
Sean, as you said, he's a sports guy. Is he a see a Yankees or a Mets guy or does he stay out of that? Cause that can get contentious.
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Clay Travis
That's a great question. I don't know what his actual sports team affiliations are. I mean, he lived in or has.
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Buck Sexton
He gone full Florida like now? I guess I'm supposed to root for the Miami Heat, which still feels like cheating given the Heat Knicks rivalries of the past, but here we are.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, and unfortunately, the Miami Dolphins are not a NFL franchise that anybody wants to be rooting for right now. They're kind of a mess. When was the last.
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Buck Sexton
Were they the last time they were good with Dan Marino? Do we have to go back to the 90s? That's rough.
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Clay Travis
They have not found a quarterback basically in 30 years since Dan Marino. And every Miami Dolphins game you go to, there's a guy in the number 13 Dan Marino jersey. Still, it doesn't matter.
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Buck Sexton
But it's also not really the Miami Dolphins fault because the laces were out.
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Clay Travis
You know what movie they would never allow to be made today? And certainly they would never allow it to be sponsored by the NFL. Ace Ventura. Speaking of laces out. Oh, yeah, that movie I watched with my kids. They loved it. But it had Dan Marino in it. It had Don Shula in it. And the bad guy, which would never be allowed today. Spoiler alert. Was actually a man pretending to be a woman. Finkel is Einhorn, if you remember the Einhorn is Finkel, if you remember that memorable discovery.
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Buck Sexton
Spoiler played the soundtrack from the Crying Game when the revelation happened. Which is another movie about a lady with a man. Surprise. And that would never, ever be allowed to be made these days, that's for sure.
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Clay Travis
I just love the idea of if the NFL were involved in a movie that was considered in any way. By the way, this was what, 94, 92, something like that? I mean, it wasn't that long ago. And I'm surprised they still air it. You know, they have to give trigger warnings now before all different sorts of Disney movies. I would imagine there are trigger warnings on this thing probably many different places. And many of you are triggered in the New York City era area. I wanted to play this, Buck, because I flagged it yesterday and we didn't get to it. We didn't play very much of Mamdani's victory speech because I didn't want to make all of you throw up. But I did think this was a really kind of useful contrast. First, let's go back to 1986. President Ronald Reagan said his nine most terrifying words were as follows. Cut 20.
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Buck Sexton
I think you all know that I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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Clay Travis
Okay, well known Reagan line. Here is what Mamdani said last night, which is a direct repudiation of that iconic Ronald Reagan line and it is. Cut 19. We will prove that there is no.
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Buck Sexton
Problem too large for government to solve and no concern too small for it to care about.
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Clay Travis
This is just like he distilled, in essence, my worst nightmare. Buck, let's play that one more time so you guys can hear it. I mean, because it is a direct repudiation of what Reagan said. Cut 19. This is my concern about New York City. Do you think the government handles anything? Well, Mamdani says they want to do everything for you. We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve.
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Buck Sexton
And no concern too small for it to care about.
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Clay Travis
This is awful. I think that I read a big piece in the New York Times. They had their biographical sketch of Mamdani and his campaign. Thousands of words. I read it this morning. The only thing I can say about Mandani is the hope is that he just is going to abandon trying to deliver on the vast majority of the things that he claimed he was going to deliver on.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, best case scenario, that's bad. I wish I could say something better about how I think this is likely to go. I also, you're not going to see the huge outflow from New York. And I think that's largely because if Covid didn't drive you out of New York City, I don't think mom Danny will. And now that may be also because people are rooted there in ways that even if they wanted to leave, it's really hard. You know, they got their kids in school, their job, their family. And I get that moving is not as easy as, you know, I happen to be at a place in life where not only did I want to move, but I had my then fiance who was also like, let's move to Florida. And it was all, it all felt, it all came together. A lot of people, it's more complicated than that. This matters, though, for the budget of New York City, because a very small percent, it really actually mirrors the national tax reality, which is that 1% of New Yorkers pay 50% of the taxes. And you can break it down even further. 0.01% of New Yorkers pay a shockingly large, I don't know what the figure is, but a shockingly large amount of New York City's taxes. So it's not just the high earners, it's really the ultra high earners. And so all the complaining about millionaires and billionaires that Bernie Sanders and others do without their earnings to tax, you can't have the socialism that these people are advocating for. So there we have it, man. They're going to learn, I think they're going to learn the hard way about New York or about Mamdani, rather, in New York. This was also interesting.
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Clay Travis
He very.
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Buck Sexton
This is cut 17. He very clearly from his victory speech here, made this about Trump. Play 17. If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city that gave rise to him. And if there is any way to terrify a despot, it is by dismantling.
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Clay Travis
The very conditions that allowed him to accumulate power.
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Buck Sexton
This is not only how we stop Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
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Clay Travis
So, Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four words for you.
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Buck Sexton
Turn the volume up. This will all look very funny in retrospect. When this guy has made a complete mess of New York and is a joke and everyone realizes that he has no idea what he's doing because that's what's happened in every, every city that elects some super progressive. You end up with someone like, who's the mayor? Frey, who just won and again, barely won.
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Clay Travis
He had to. Barely. Minneapolis guy.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, the guy was crying at the casket. He's in tears. The casket of George Floyd. The guy. Such a, such a absolute clown. Portland, San Francisco, Chicago, all the, all these Very progressive mayors are disasters. They can't point to one who's a real lefty and say, well, look at what a great. Look at how awesome that city is going. No, they always ruin it. So he's going to make a mess of things as well. But I think it's worth noting that he's just the mayor of a city and he somehow made this for his audience at least about Trump and the fantasyland stuff too, about a despot. You know, you wouldn't have crowds of people cheering for you, you a little twerp, if he was really a despot and they were all scared of what the evil king would do to you. Like they just live in a fantasy land. The whole thing is make believe.
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Clay Travis
How about Schumer getting asked who he voted for and not giving an answer?
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Buck Sexton
I love. That was classic.
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Clay Travis
The Chuck Schumer is. I mean, if you just step back and don't overthink it, but you just take a step back and think about how desperate he must be every day. He's 75 or whatever the heck he is, he should be just comfortably becoming a grandpa. His time has passed. He has no resonance at all with his current party and he basically just tries to avoid being noticed all the time, despite the fact that he's Senate Minority leader. And I really think he lives in constant fear that AOC is going to decide that she's going to primary him because he'll get smoked in the primary and his political career will be over. Oh, that's a. Orc is going to.
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Buck Sexton
Run for president, I might add, and she's going to be, I think, a top contender for the Democrats. I don't think she will win the nomination, but you can just see how we've all you and I agree here. Newsom at the top of the ticket, AOC as the vp, but she's going to make her own run. And it's because she represents the, the real vanguard of the Democrat Party today.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Stories of freedom, stories of America.
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Clay Travis
Inspirational stories that unite us all.
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Buck Sexton
Each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. Turn out of Clay and Buck gets going. Right now, everybody, we're joined by Katie Miller. Katie Miller podcast rocketing up the charts all across America. And Katie, I gotta say, happy to see all your success. Also just happy to see you tell that jerk, Jank, whatever his name is, what you really think of him over on, over on Piers Morgan show. I saw that you weren't having any of this with the let's just trash Israel constantly as Cenk does, and then say that it has somehow nothing to do with Jewish people. There's a Israel, Jewish people. These are two separate entities entirely.
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Katie Miller
Did I lose my cool with him where I had a logical argument? Absolutely. Did I have a better logical argument to make? Absolutely. But when you see someone like him who's like sweating and can't pull it together, I wasn't thinking very clearly. But what I can tell you is someone who's funded by the Muslim Brotherhood and it's a supporter of Hamas, they typically have only one meaning when they say Israel, not everybody. And do I stand by everything Israel's done? Absolutely not. But when those type of people criticize Israel, they pretty much mean one thing.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Stephen Miller's wife, Katie. She's got a great podcast we are rolling through the third hour of the program here. Katie, obviously a lot of people trying to figure out what happened in New York with mom Donnie, what happened in Virginia, what happened in New Jersey, what's your take and how much should we be concerned about what happened in all those races and how does it project, most importantly, probably towards the midterms, if at all.
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Katie Miller
Does it overly concern me that we lost three blue states, that Trump didn't win? No, of course not. What concerns me though, is the number of voters in New York who haven't lived there longer than five years. It concerns me the amount of Gen Z females who are voting to support a man who won't denounce Sharia law, but at the same time claim that they're in support of women's rights. It's just a. It doesn't make quite so much sense to me, guys. I don't think it makes much sense to you guys either why women are going to. Who are wearing those white, like pink pony hats, those pink hats where they were like in those women rights supporter marches.
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Buck Sexton
Well, Clay and I are still trying to figure out, Katie, what the, what the trans Rights for Gaza movement is really all about, because I think, I think they missed a memo on that one.
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Katie Miller
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many trans rights there are in Gaza because I think they kill them all there. But again, it goes to the people who are supporting women's rights are voting for a man who, who doesn't support women's rights and doesn't denounce Sharia law. What has we gone wrong as a country where young women aren't voting for people who support their own ideals and they vote for people who are against the rights that they are seeking and vote against their elevation. Why are white men in our country? They're the only group left who are actually. Because they see the writing on the wall, they see that if they don't continue to support people like themselves, there won't be people like themselves left in our country. We are definitely becoming a country that looks a lot more like the UK, the same country we all left back in 1776. You know, we are looking like a country that has open borders, that has random Pakistani crime on our streets. And I saw a man who was killed, who was stabbed walking his dog in the UK by Afghanis. And that's what happens when you support open borders policies. And that's what you see in New York City, right? When most of the people who supported Mamdani in this election just came to New York City in the last five years. What is that?
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Clay Travis
No, it's totally true. We talked about those numbers on the show on Wednesday. Yesterday's program, we're talking to Katie Miller. You can check out her podcast video, podcast version of that as well. That is out there everywhere. We were talking about women being unwilling to stand up for other women. I don't know if you've seen this story out of the National Women's Soccer League. It's one of the craziest stories stories that I've seen in some time. There is a biological man that is evidently playing in the National Women's Soccer League. According to these stories, one of the players for an LA area soccer team came out and said something radical, Katie. She said, hey, women's soccer should only be played by women. The Angel City team in LA then had a press conference where they ripped this teammate of theirs for saying women's soccer should only be played by women. Accused her of being transphobic, which is quite predictable, but also accused her of being racist because the player in question happens to be black. Why are women actually the worst defenders of women's athletics out there? There are a lot of people like Riley Gaines. They're brave. This is a vast majority opinion, but the actual athletes themselves seem intent on erasing themselves. What's going on here?
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Katie Miller
Who is the undoing of Western civilization? It is the liberal white woman. It is the woman who for some reason feels so sympathetic and empathetic towards other groups that they're willing to cannibalize their own people. They're willing to leave their daughters worse off because they would like to virtue signal for the support of people on the Internet? It, quite frankly, makes no sense to me, Clay. Why is it that we can't just say women are biologically women? Why is it that we want to say that biological men who don't have a uterus, who don't have periods, who don't have cycles and play differently? By the way, when you have different hormonal changes at different time of the month, those women are not men and men are not women. You know, if you saw. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Glamour magazine in the UK had nine biological men on their.
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah.
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Katie Miller
I remember growing up, by the way. I didn't grow up wanting to be a man. I grew up wanting to be a woman. So I don't know what Glamour magazine is doing except, say, saying that men are better at being women than women, which is exactly what these sports are doing.
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Buck Sexton
By the way, we have Sydney Sweeney, who somehow has become a symbol of, I don't know, conservatives, the right, Trump, just depending on.
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Clay Travis
I would just say buck. A symbol of it's good to be pretty. And I'm just going to own being pretty.
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Buck Sexton
But what I was going to say is the media acts like she's some partisan figure. It's like, no, she's just like, I'm a hot chick and I'm using it to sell tickets and, you know, make money. And a very attractive lady. Another way of saying this. And Katie, she is refusing to apologize. This is cut 40. This was during a GQ interview. This is for the good genes ad that got the left all freaked out. Play it.
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Katie Miller
The criticism of the content, which was. The criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically in this political.
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Clay Travis
Climate, like, white people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority.
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Katie Miller
Like, that was kind of like the criticism, broadly speaking. And since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.
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Clay Travis
I think that when I have an.
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Buck Sexton
Issue that I want to speak about, people will hear. I kind of like where she's going. She's not bending the knee. They want her to bend the knee so badly.
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Clay Travis
Be like, stop.
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Buck Sexton
Stop being hot and famous. It's not allowed.
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Katie Miller
Women are not allowed to be attractive in this country anymore. It's just. This is not happening. You see on every single liberal publication, men. Because they're no longer allowed to say that women are allowed to be hot and attractive if you're white. Right. That's what this is coming down to. Is Sydney Sweeney, in that same interview, says, I was just wearing jeans. I like wearing jeans. Why is it controversial for a white woman to put on jeans and be on, you know, and be in an advertisement? It's not. But at the same time, did you guys see a Gold's Gym where a black woman was in the locker room just changing and a guy comes in, like, with his penis out, and she's screaming like, why is a guy in my locker room? And they kick her out.
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Clay Travis
We played that audio and had that discussion. And so here is the. I wrote about this in the book, and I feel like I understand young men pretty well because I'm raising three young men, 17, 15 and 11. I know you have several kids as well. Your kids are really young. But one of the big debates that's out there, Katie, is how do we get young women to in some way see the world through a lens that young men are seeing it through? It doesn't mean they all have to be Republicans. You know, just a 50, 50 split would not be a bad thing. How do women, young women in particular, get reached with the arguments that actually make sense? What would you do if. If you had a magic wand and they said your job and part of your. I think what you're doing with your podcast is trying to speak to this audience. How do you reach them?
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Katie Miller
The reason I started my podcast was to speak to these exact women, the women who are not getting married, who are not having kids, who believe a career is what they should be doing first and foremost. And I don't think our country, and specifically Republicans, do a good job of telling young women that being a mom and being a wife and raising children and is a valued career. It is an honest, hard, good day's work and that going to a job in which you're just paying enough to make ends meet at the daycare in the grocery store is not what life is meant to be. It is okay, by the way, to dress up and look pretty for your husband. It is okay to just feel good about raising little children. It is okay to have a day where you're just helping your kids be a better person that day, and you raise better children when you are home for your children. And I'm not saying that's a one size fit all magic wand, because in some households, that doesn't work. And we should be supportive of single women who go to work, and we should be supportive of different households that look differently. But for a large segment of our population, the reason why so many young men are lost is because young women stopped wanting to take care of those young men. They stopped wanting to be in these marriages at young ages. Right? You look at Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift, they're getting engaged in their late 30s instead of their early 20s, when, by the way, women's bodies were meant to have kids. We should be celebrating. We should be celebrating and encouraging young women to grow together with young men. Because marriages and a spouse and a support system, as you guys know, make it better and makes it easier to have a career. My husband, Stephen Miller, is the most supportive of my career. He makes it possible for me to have a career and have young children. But guess what? That means trade offs for both of us. If I'm out that night at work, Steven is home giving the kids a bath and giving them dinner and putting them to bed. We make sure that our children have a parent home at night. Is it easy with his job and my job? No, but that's what a support system looks like. And I wish we encourage more young women that being a mom is more than good enough.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's also worth noting, Katie, and everything you said there is so well put and important for a lot of people to hear. No one ever feels the need to clear their throat and apologize for encouraging Again, to your point, it's not one size fits all. It's not that, you know, people can't have different paths and not everyone's meant to get married or not everyone's meant to have whatever, that's fine. But if somebody says, hey, what we really need are two people working and kids in daycare and isn't that great, no one feels the need to apologize or explain anything about that. They can just advocate for that in our culture. But if you say, hey, being a mom who stays home and raises kids, that's a beautiful, worthy, critical, civilization building pathway to people get angry about that. And I think that says a lot.
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Katie Miller
What's the, you know, what's the male equivalent of giving a female flowers? I was just having this conversation and to me it's cooking your husband a loving meal, right? It's taking the time to show somebody else you care. And unfortunately our society, when you have two working parents, you lose that ability to have that loving touch. And so where you get lost, lost boys is in a generation of women that don't see that that important part is valued and is just as critical by the way as getting a next promotion or getting a higher pay bump at your work, right? Like LinkedIn exists to be able to cheer someone on in the workplace that doesn't exist in a corresponding value to a stay at home mom, right? People celebrate you when you have a baby, but there isn't that same village anymore for when your child has its first steps or when you get through a tough day or when you cook a really good turkey or chicken at dinner, right? And I'm like, man, I killed it today. But me killing it today on cooking a really good dinner doesn't get me the same praise from coworkers because my co workers are little children that, you know, getting a killing a presentation or having that next salary increase gets you that same level of praise from our society. And we should do more to praise moms and to praise women because then they would be encouraged to have a career path that is just raising kids. That is that same level of value as getting paid more. Because why in our society do we only value paying women more as that's your worth.
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Clay Travis
Last question for you, Katie, and we know you're busy. The results on Tuesday, the one that Buck and I can't get over, is Jay Jones being elected as the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Virginia after saying that he'd like to see the kids of his political opponents murdered, that he would piss on their graves. I mean, truly vile things. What does it say about the Democrat Party that they would consider him to still be electable, to elect him and have him win by 6? In the wake of what we already saw happen with President Trump, in the wake of what we certainly have seen happen with Charlie Kirk, to endorse violent ideation like this, that's the one result that I couldn't get past. You got young kids. You've got someone who's in the political arena. What was your reaction to that result?
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Katie Miller
I have three young children who live in the state of Virginia. So you can imagine how sad it is when you see your neighbors vote for somebody who wishes the equivalent of my children dead. And what you're seeing here is when partisanship wins out and when Trump deranged syndrome wins out over common decency and being and human decency. What you're seeing also is when you have bad candidates and bad campaigns that are run in Virginia and you just have Democrats who blindly support the Democratic candidate. Because the bottom line is that when. I mean, it is just really sad to see that people who are my neighbors, both to my left and my right, support somebody who wishes death upon our family and death upon families who think like us. I think of Meghan McCain who also lives in Virginia, and that says that these law enforcement officers won't stand up for us when people are coming with that same level of rhetoric and hate and actionable intelligence that you need as a top law enforcement officer in Virginia. Why would anyone with children live in Virginia who think and vote as a Republican? The very scary time to be in our country. It's a very scary time to be a Republican. And I think it only gets worse before it gets better. And we saw that with the election of Jay Jones.
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Clay Travis
Katie, we appreciate the time. Good luck speaking to all the different women out there that I think you can be incredibly impactful for culturally, and certainly, we thank you for spending the time with us.
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Buck Sexton
Katie Miller podcast Everybody go check it out.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A lot of reactions, weighing in, rolling in with people weighing in on a variety of different topics out there. Let me just start with this one, Buck. I don't. This is not ideal, but just 20 minutes ago I got an email from Delta. I'm supposed to fly tomorrow. I bet a lot of you are going to be getting these. These are the top stories by and large on all the television networks. Dear Clay, Delta is complying with a federal directive to reduce flights at 40 major US airports starting tomorrow due to air traffic control staffing shortages caused by the government shutdown. Uh, then they say, hey, your flight might be impacted. Just make sure you're checking. And they don't give me any info. So I don't know when I'm gonna be able to get outta New York. It's gonna be like Escape from New York here. But I'm imagining that many of you are getting the same emails. Uh, and the headline right now is that United is preemptively canceling hundreds of flights tomorrow. So I just want to mention that I want you guys to be on top of it. I ideally do not want you guys to be doing what I potentially am going to have to do, which is sit around in an airport all day. Podcast listener Matt Aa this is something we've heard from a lot of people. I want to let him make the argument, then Buck and I will react. Maybe some of you will as well.
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Buck Sexton
Listen, hey, gentlemen, you may disagree with what I'm about to say and that's fine. But the rosy colored picture of the country that people have been painting, especially in conservative media, is so inaccurate. Gas prices are still up, cost of living is still up, cost of goods is still up.
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Clay Travis
And I understand, we all know who.
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Buck Sexton
Did it, but we elected Trump to fix it, not to tell us who did it. And dancing on the graves of the Democrats prematurely was not the smartest thing to do. If he doesn't want to become a lame duck In January of 2027, he really needs to focus on domestic issues now.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so that was Matt, podcast listener. Here's what I would say. Gas prices are actually down compared to four years ago here. I just, I think this is going to be an issue and I'm open to what people would say. You can't fix inflation. This is why inflation is so awful, pernicious and nasty. Once it happens, it's embedded forever. And I get it. Everything cost way too much. But Trump doesn't have a magic wand to suddenly make things cost what they did in 2019 or 2018. This is a function of Joe Biden's awful economic decision making. I didn't live through it, Buck. You didn't really live through it. At least not to be able to remember it. Some of you guys may remember when you had awful inflation from Jimmy Carter. There were then a two term Ronald Reagan window. Reagan was not very popular for the first couple of years of his tenure because he was still dealing with the fallout of the economy that Jimmy Carter had created. I think that there is going to be an element of that for Trump now. I think by this time next year, by the summer of 2026, you are going to see the economy roaring. Stock market's at all time high, gas prices are at four year lows. The overall rate of increase in prices has declined. But it's not gonna go back to 2018 or 2019. And I think that's what a lot of people in their minds are expecting to happen.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, it's going to be tough. It turns out when you basically shut down whole sectors of an economy and print money, there are big problems from that. Yes, that is unfortunately what we did to the tune of 6 trillion plus 2 trillion. It was really like a Covid, was like a infusion of 8 or 9 trillion dollars of dollars without underlying assets, products or value into the system. That's really, really bad. And it's some of us like yours truly and Clay Truly, I don't know how I would say that were telling everybody this at the time. Matter of public record. We both had shows. You're both saying this, this is crazy, it's a really bad idea, don't do this. And people didn't listen. So once those prices go up, once the inflation has set in, it is very hard to turn things around. But the, there, there are some other, there's some structural things that we deal with right now. And for example, one area that I'd say the Mamdani, the Mamdani show, because it really felt like a show tapped into effectively was people saying that they have a raw deal. Let's just say a raw deal for the younger generation. Now some of that is whining or whatever, but it's not make your own coffee and don't eat out avocado toast or whatever. I mean that stuff is very dismissive and that's not fair because I mean look at the price of a home. Yeah, nationwide in America in the last 10 years. I mean look at what has happened? The home price, the amount of money you have to make to afford the same home is basically doubled. And everyone has not gotten 100% raise.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
So we know that something structurally within the system, we have the people pulling the levers, Treasury, Congress, all of it did things that made it harder for those to accumulate wealth and then assets to do so. And this has, this is something that's. It is a big problem. And when you add on top of that all these people who feel like their degrees are not. Oh, did you guys have this one? I actually sent this in. Alex Karp, who is a.
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Clay Travis
Palantir. How did you say Palantir? I don't know.
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Buck Sexton
Palantir.
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Clay Travis
I don't know how to pronounce anything. Play Palantir. Palantir. I know how to read well, I'm very literate, but I don't, I don't listen. Palantir, it's all right. It's a very successful business.
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Buck Sexton
Like one of the most wealthy, one of the most valuable companies, like you know, in the world today. But it's cool, whatever. But so, yeah, Palantir, he's a CEO of IT Guys, let me know if we, if we get it, if we have it, just because I think it'd be better to hear it from him. But I think, you know, he says one of the big challenges that we've seen is, is that people have realized that the degrees that they were told were going to be really valuable are not really valuable, and more hard skills and work experience and things like that are more valuable in the general marketplace. And I just think that there's been a, there has been a shift. Clay, when you and I went to school, it was, the idea was you get into a certain kind of institution, you go there, you have endless options at your disposal in that field, right? And you're going to get all these great job offers, whatever. But now everyone has a, everyone has an undergraduate degree in the marketplace that's looking for these kinds of jobs. It doesn't differentiate you. And people have all this debt and now they can't afford houses. Like, there have been policy mistakes made.
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Clay Travis
I think this is also where AI is going to come in in a massive way. A lot of well educated people during COVID were very cocky and arrogant. What would they say when people lost their jobs, learned to code? The jobs that many people who are young white collar professionals have grown accustomed to being able to get are going to be the ones that get eliminated first. And so your plumbers out there, your roofers these guys that work with their hands, they're going to actually have more economic power going forward, which is going to be, I think, very interesting to see how it shakes out. Let's get to a couple more calls. Daniel and Tulsa. Jonathan in New Jersey called in, said he didn't vote because he didn't think his vote counted. What do you say to him?
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Katie Miller
Well, I think.
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Buck Sexton
I think he's probably right. His own single vote doesn't count. But when you add them all together, yours, mine, you know, his, they start to make a meal. So when I was a kid, I.
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Katie Miller
Used to go fishing.
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Buck Sexton
This old man was always there in the neighborhood pond and he was always keeping the fish. And I'd catch a little tiny perch and I'd say, do you want it? And he said, yeah, throw it in the bucket and I catch another one. He'd say, I'd say, do you want it? And he'd say, you eat a bean, don't you? Like, what are you talking about? You eat a bean and nobody eats one bean. But you add them all together and they make a meal. So we gotta just remember, yes, your single vote might not sway it, but everybody's together, makes a meal, and that's how we gotta change our society back to, you know, a God fearing republic that is proud to be who we are.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. I just, personally, I want every single person out there listening to us to vote. I can't imagine sitting around on election day and feeling like I hadn't been willing to take the bare minimum time to make my voice heard on an individual level. And yes, you can sit around and say, well, in general, how often does a election come down to one vote? You know, millions of people are saying that. And I think the answer is regularly.
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Buck Sexton
I think, I think eventually, Clay, the fact that you deprive Curtis Sliwa of victory is going to be something that our audience forgives. You know, that your suppression of the Sliwa vote, you know, so he got 7%. It would have been 70, Clay, if only you had shown willingness to put on that red beret. And by the way, we do have Palantir CEO Alex Karp. I'm sorry, I love that one. Palantir.
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Clay Travis
Palantir.
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Buck Sexton
CEO. Maybe, maybe there's like a southern way to say it, but it's here's a Palantir CEO, Alex Karp, and he's talking about exactly what I was just mentioning a moment ago about a lot of these young people with these degrees and how they're Feeling play it.
- [63:33]
Clay Travis
I think the average, you know, Ivy League grad voting for this mayor is.
- [63:37]
Buck Sexton
Highly annoyed that their education is not that valuable. And the person down the street who knows how to drill for oil and gas, who's moved to Texas, has a more valuable profession. And I think that annoys the out of these people. I think that's true, by the way. I think that there is a. Hey, hold on a second. I went to Bates College or I went to Hamilton or Amherst or whatever. I'm just throwing things out, whatever the school is. You know, I went to, you know, University of Pennsylvania, and I have a degree in. I should have fill in those blanks. A lot of people in New York City and other cities are finding out that doesn't matter as much as you were led to believe by the system. And that is true, Clay. It is true.
- [64:23]
Clay Travis
No, I think that's 100% true. And not only that, and by the way, I'll say a lot of people who go to law school, for instance, have these sort of jarring realities between the world you thought you were entering and the world you actually enter. I've said this before. I love law school, but it teaches you how to think, and you get to debate the most significant issues that have ever faced the country. And then when you're 25 years old, after you've run up a couple hundred thousand dollars in debt, you get slapped by the cold heart of reality. You're sitting at a desk, clicking through a variety of different documents on your computer screen for 12 hours a day. You're not involved in A Time to Kill. It's Not A Few Good Men. The actual grind of being a lawyer is very different than the media portrayal of what lawyerdom is.
- [65:10]
Buck Sexton
I'm gonna tell you something. The first time in a job, like a job job, that I had to be in a cubicle and realize that, like, this was my home for the next nine, nine and a half hours. Had a mini panic attack. It's like, this sucks. Yeah, I don't want to do this.
- [65:26]
Clay Travis
Of course it does.
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Buck Sexton
Horrible.
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Clay Travis
I mean, of course it does. Most jobs are not that much fun. And by the way, nine and a half hours, I remember sitting in a law firm office and thinking, this could be the next 40 years of my life. Like, just arguing procedural motions that I don't really care about for a long time. And look, the jobs can pay decently, but I think even those jobs are going to get eradicated soon. By the way, let's play this. I like Bob. He has Great taste in radio. BB.
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Buck Sexton
Talk back. BB if we can would be fabulous for us to listen to. Hey Clay, those are excellent words. When you were talking about coaching and you can only control what you can control, I thought those are outstanding words. Thank you for reminding us about that.
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Clay Travis
There you go. See while they may want to take me out because I didn't support Sliwa enough, Bob is got great taste. What sport is it?
- [66:21]
Buck Sexton
You didn't play football, but would you.
- [66:24]
Clay Travis
Never go to a school that I coached Some flag football.
- [66:27]
Buck Sexton
But what I was going to say is if you had, if your profession had to be coach, which sport would you be? The not what you want to do the most. Would you be the best at coaching?
- [66:39]
Clay Travis
Oh, that's a great question. I don't think I'd be. I've coached them all and I don't think I was very good. I don't think I was very good.
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Buck Sexton
At any of them.
- [66:47]
Clay Travis
But I think probably, probably baseball. It depends on the age, right? Because kids today get so advanced so quickly. It doesn't take that long for kids to get better at a sport now than if you didn't play until you were 20. Kids today by 14 or 15 are playing at a more advanced level than you did yourself. But I think it's a good question. I think I probably know football and basketball and baseball the best. But I played soccer so I think I would probably go baseball. I've coached baseball the most, so I.
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Buck Sexton
Probably see I coach soccer and I would say I'd go soccer. You know why Clay? You just got to know who the best players are in the positions, let them do their thing. And then you get to stand on the sideline in a fancy European suit and be like, hey, there's a lot.
- [67:34]
Clay Travis
Less management in the middle of a soccer game than there is the, the other games. Calling plays and stuff like that is actually pretty difficult. Speaking of calling plays, here's a play for all of you. It's called prize picks. And this is several different elements here that I want you guys to be able to take advantage of. These are all touchdown passes. I am taking every one of these guys to take a, to throw a touchdown pass. Buck, be careful on this one. His name is Michael Pennix. That is Pennix with an X. Very easy to mispronounce that name. Michael Penix, more than one half touchdown. It's a very different bet if you, if you mispronounce that one. Trevor Lawrence, more than 1/2 touchdown pass. Bryce Young, more than 1/2 Touchdown pass. Tua more than 1/2 touchdown pass Jackson Dart I'm in New York more than 1/2 touchdown pass and Marcus Mariota more than 1 touchdown pass. That is six different players all to throw more than 1/2. That means that they throw one touchdown pass. This is an ambitious pick that I am making, but you can play along with us at prizepix.com Code Clay that is prizepix.com Code clay $50 when you play $5 prizepix.com Code Clayton want to be in the know when you're on the go? The Team 47 podcast drop Highlands Lights.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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