Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Nov 7 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review

Episode Date: November 7, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles the week’s top political stories, focusing on the ongoing government shutdown, the state and future of New York politics, the legacy of Nancy Pelosi's retirement, and presidential effectiveness—particularly Trump’s first 10 months back in office. The second half highlights discussion about optimism amid government dysfunction, the effects of policy on daily life (particularly travel), and features a compelling guest segment on miracles and faith in medicine.

Clay and Buck blend news breakdowns, listener calls, and humor to digest the chaos of the week, making sense of shifting political sands and policy stalemates.

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Main Discussion Themes and Key Segments

1. Government Shutdown and Travel Chaos

Timestamps: 03:35–06:26, 09:56–15:48, 22:18–30:58, 52:34–60:33

• Airline Disruption:
  The episode opens with Clay describing airline disruptions due to the ongoing government shutdown, personally discussing receiving an unprecedentedly vague email from an airline suggesting backup bookings due to potential cancellations.

  • “I got an email...they were just like, hey, basically...we’re not really sure the plane’s going to go take off… Might want to consider other airlines…” – Clay (03:35)

• Impact on Voters:
  Clay notes the shutdown's personal impact is escalating, with both parties at risk of public backlash, especially as holidays approach.

• Shutdown Politics & Precedent:

  • Buck and Clay lay blame largely on Democrats, but acknowledge political gamesmanship on both sides.
  • On shifting filibuster rules:
    “You can’t have a minority of the Senate say, sorry, no government business till I get what I want. That’s crazy.” – Buck (15:42)
  • Discussion includes proposed reforms to prevent government shutdowns from being used as a negotiating tactic.

• Listener Insight:
  Callers express frustration, and the human impact is forefront—pay delays for federal workers, disruptions for military and public safety, rising urgency.

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2. New York State Politics: The Stefanik Governorship Bid

Timestamps: 06:26–08:27

• Big Announcement:
  Elise Stefanik, GOP Congresswoman, announced her candidacy for New York Governor, directly challenging Kathy Hochul.

  • “We have seen decades of single party rule... Kathy Hochul is the worst governor in America. New York is the most unaffordable state in the nation...” – Stefanik audio clip (06:26)

• Clay’s Assessment:
  Clay calls this a “shining better day” for New Yorkers and sees “election cycles swinging back” after NYC’s perceived “communist” mayoral win.

  • “Oftentimes election cycles swing from one direction to another. Electing a communist in New York City—maybe you want to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor.” – Clay (07:06)

• Buck Adds:
  “You’re never going to get Texas or Florida policies in New York...but you will be able to, I think, have a very close contest...” (08:04)

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3. Nancy Pelosi’s Retirement: Political and Personal Analysis

Timestamps: 08:34–09:56

• Trump’s Take:
  They play a Trump clip where he calls Pelosi’s retirement “the greatest act of patriotism she’s ever made.”

  • “She was a tremendous liability for the country. I thought she was an evil woman who did a poor job, who cost the country a lot in damages and reputation…” – Trump audio via Dr. Mark Siegel (09:08)

• Clay’s Wit:
  He jokes about Pelosi’s legendary investing, missing “the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker,” and sees symbolism in her exiting as Trump is at his “most ascendant power.”

  • “That’s kind of a... chef’s Kiss. ... I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it’s time for her to step down. I couldn’t think it’s better for the country that she’s leaving the fight right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles...” (09:56)

• Impact on Democrats:
  Buck predicts her absence may force the party’s true dynamics out into the open.

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4. Listener Feedback and Trump in the White House: Grading Performance

Timestamps: 24:16–36:54

• Call-In Segments:
  Listeners grade Trump’s performance after 10 months; opinions range from an “F”—sparking much debate—to a “C-” (citing economic hardship, tech policy), while hosts rate him “A” or “A-.”

  • “He’s done almost everything I thought he would do. He’s been more effective and efficient.” – Clay (28:39)
  • “Maybe you’re being a little unrealistic about what’s possible for the president to do...? …these are very specific issues that matter to you specifically but aren’t necessarily at the top of the list for most voters.” – Buck (29:45)

• Border & Crime:
  Clay touts Trump’s record on the border (“solved in 6 months”) and notes violent crime dropping sharply in cities where Trump’s policies have support (example: Memphis, 70% decline).

• On Economy:

  • Acknowledges prices have climbed since Biden era inflation, but says Trump “can’t make prices go back to 2019.”
  • “That’s the pernicious awfulness of inflation and why it is so disastrous to any country.” – Clay (33:15)

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5. Economic Pain, AI, and the Limits of Policy

Timestamps: 33:30–36:54

• AI and Future Wealth:
  Buck predicts that increases in productivity (through AI & technology) may eventually ease economic pressure.

  • “Our lives are going to be very different over the next 10 years...a lot of things that will be very easy to do, or be done for us.” (33:30)

• Limits of Populism:
  Both hosts stress that large numbers of Americans want “someone else to pay the bills,” feeding unsustainable expectations on public spending.

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6. “Miracles Among Us”: Faith and Healing with Dr. Mark Siegel

Guest Interview: Dr. Mark Siegel (Fox News medical analyst, author)

Timestamps: 38:25–47:48

• Book Focus:
  The role of faith and prayer in medicine and healing; tells stories about scientifically “inexplicable” recoveries and “soft miracles”—cumulative coincidences.

• Memorable Stories:

  • Demar Hamlin (Buffalo Bills) cardiac arrest recovery:
    Advanced medical preparedness (due to a doctor’s foresight), prayer, meditation, and Hamlin’s drive to give back are framed as “miracles along a lane.”

    • “He had a premonition that one day this would be needed, but everyone thought he was crazy. But he had a drill and he had a defibrillator right there... that’s why they rushed over there...” – Dr. Siegel (41:33)

  • Scientific Research on Prayer:
    Discusses how belief activates brain regions that foster hope, reduce depression, and improve health outcomes (44:09).

• Personal Touch:
  Dr. Siegel shares stories of his parents (102 and 100, married 73 years), crediting faith, love, and medical optimism.

• Where to Get Book:
  Available for pre-order ahead of Nov 18 publication; Amazon, Fox News Books, Barnes and Noble.

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7. Policy, Semantics & Bureaucracy: “SNAP” and Government Programs

Timestamps: 55:38–60:33

• Language of Government Aid:
  Buck rails against euphemisms (“Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program” instead of “food stamps”), calling for truth in labeling government aid and drawing links between policy jargon and public confusion.

  • “Why not just call it food stamps? ... All these bureaucracies also... don’t want people to think of what they’re doing as welfare because then they realize that this is their money...” (55:38)

• Judicial Overreach:
  Critiques federal judges for, allegedly, overstepping in ordering administration actions during shutdowns.

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8. Final Reflection: Partisanship, Policy, and Political Accountability

• On Democrat Strategy:
  Buck predicts Democrats will distance themselves from responsibility for the shutdown once resolved.

  • “As soon as we end this government shutdown...Democrats are going to pretend like this wasn’t a thing they did…” (60:33)

• On Accuracy and Analysis:
  Buck highlights the importance of honesty in analysis:

  • “It bothers me to be inaccurate... If I’m really wrong on a point of analysis, I try to go back, admit that first off, and then try to understand why. The great part about being a Democrat is never admitting you’re wrong...” (60:33)

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “You might want to consider other airlines and just have backup plans in place.” – Clay Travis, reflecting airline chaos (03:35)
• “It would be so nice for the Empire State to return to a place of sanity.” – Buck Sexton, on NY politics (08:04)
• “She was a tremendous liability for the country...who cost the country a lot in damages and in reputation.” – Trump (as quoted by Dr. Mark Siegel) on Pelosi (09:08)
• “He’s done almost everything that I thought he would do. He’s been more effective and efficient.” – Clay Travis, on Trump’s first 10 months (28:39)
• “The hope here is that increases in productivity that will come from AI...our lives are going to be very different over the next 10 years...” – Buck Sexton (33:30)
• “That’s the pernicious awfulness of inflation and why it is so disastrous to any country.” – Clay Travis (33:15)
• “Our decency and charity as Americans means that nobody would ever go hungry because we don’t allow them to. But I’m not opposed to a safety net...” – Buck Sexton (55:38)
• “As soon as we end this government shutdown...Democrats are going to pretend like this wasn’t a thing they did…” – Buck Sexton (60:33)

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Memorable Moments

• Listener Callers Grading Trump: One caller gives Trump a “C-,” citing tech and economic concerns, while the hosts defend him as exceeding expectations—highlighting the sometimes divergent views even among conservative listeners. (28:02–30:58)
• Clay’s Airline Woes: Clay’s real-time travel disruption—using humor to describe scrambling for flights, even getting help from a Southwest pilot/listener—grounds the political drama in daily life. (26:02)
• Dr. Siegel’s Miracle Lane: The story of Demar Hamlin’s near-death and the prepared doctors is framed as practical faith and preparation—a vivid example of the book’s thesis. (41:33)
• Buck’s Riff on Euphemisms: Discussion of the SNAP program’s rebranding and the broader issue of government jargon is both a critique and a moment of clarity for listeners. (55:38)

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

• 03:35–08:27: Airline chaos, NY politics, Stefanik’s gubernatorial bid
• 08:34–09:56: Pelosi’s retirement, Trump’s reaction
• 09:56–15:48: Shutdown consequences, possible filibuster reform
• 22:18–30:58: Listener calls—grading Trump, barriers & realities of presidential influence
• 33:30–36:54: Economy, AI, and policy limtis
• 38:25–47:48: Dr. Mark Siegel on faith, medicine, and “Miracles Among Us”
• 52:34–60:33: Food stamps/SNAP, judge’s ruling, political language

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, sharp, and direct: Hosts use humor and occasional sarcasm, encouraging listener participation and keeping commentary fast-paced.
• Mix of in-depth analysis and everyday anecdotes: Political crises are connected to real-life consequences, from flight cancellations to grocery bills.
• Optimistic undercurrent: Despite frustrations, episodes highlight silver linings (Stefanik’s run, declining crime, medical miracles).

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Closing Summary

Clay and Buck’s November 7th episode is a rapid-fire trip through the week’s turmoil—shutdown chaos, contrasting visions in New York politics, Pelosi’s exit, and the struggles of national leadership. Thoughtful exchanges with listeners and a hopeful guest segment on real-life miracles provide light amid the often tense political climate. Listeners walk away informed, entertained, and with a renewed sense that, even in a fractured America, resilience and surprising good news still break through.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Oh, man, it's a Friday. Rejoice. But I'm looking up at all the the news, Buck. The airlines are just in an uproar. It is the lead story right now on Fox. I got an email. I was just joking with people off the air. I got an email from, from the airline I'm supposed to fly in a little bit. And they were just like, hey, basically in the email, we're not really sure the plane's going to go take off. You might want to consider other airlines and just have backup plans in place.

[Buck Sexton]

It's.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know that I've ever gotten emails like this. I mean, it's one thing to have delays. It's another thing for your airline to be like, hey, yeah, so we may or may not be able to take off today. Um, you might want to have multiple airline flights air, different airlines booked. Oh, boy. So I imagine that a lot of you out there are dealing with this with friends and family as well. So that chaos is underway. Um, let's give me a couple of positives here, Buck. I know that WOR listeners in New York City have been unhappy with me because I told you all that we were going to see an absolute destruction of Curtis Lewa and that occurred. And then, mom, Donnie was going to win, unless he was going head to head with only one person, even if it was the awful Andrew Cuomo. But those of you who have been listening for a while will remember that I said there was a shining better day to come for New Yorkers even if Mamdani won. And I said, because I really do think it will open the door to winning a more significant office, which is the governorship and the governorship of New York with the awful Kathy Hochul in office, who basically decapitated Andrew Cuomo over this sexual harassment scandal that wasn't actually in the grand scheme of things, that bad. I mean, what Cuomo did during COVID was infinitely worse than, than any of the allegations against him relating to sexual harassment. So now we have the awful Kathy Hochul as governor, maybe the worst governor in America, which is obviously J.B. pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom, There's a lot of people I think we could toss out there and say are in that mix. But this morning on FOX and Friends, I don't think it's coincidental on her timing. Elise Stefanik, former New York congressman, she would have been the ambassador to the UN but she decided to go back to Congress to help because the majority was not very substantial there. She has announced that she is running for governor to make New York affordable and safe. She did that this morning. Buck, this was a positive. Let's listen. Cut one.

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I'm running for governor to make New York affordable and safe. We have seen decades of single party rule led by Democrats and Kathy Hochul is the worst governor in America. New York is the most unaffordable state in the nation with the highest taxes, the highest energy bills, the highest utility bills. We also have a crime crisis because Kathy Hochul has brought us failed bail reform and has embrace the defund the police, Democrats. And after this week, Ainsley, when we saw a raging anti Semite, pro Hamas communist who wants to raise taxes and.

[Clay Travis]

Frankly, he barely won the majority of.

[Karen and Georgia]

New York City voters. Kathy Hochul endorsed him and bent the knee. She has failed New Yorkers.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's right. And so if you are a frustrated New York voter right now, if you are a New York City area resident and you are thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this is awful, you next year the state gets the opportunity to punch back and react to what happened in New York City. And I do think that Elise Stefanik would be an incredible choice for New York. She is infinitely better than Kathy Hochul. She's gonna be fighting an uphill battle, but oftentimes election cycles swing from one direction to another. And electing a communist in New York City, maybe you want to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor. So I wanted to start with that buck because I wanted to start with at least some positivity after a tough week. So there you go. The positivity is. I do think this helps Elise Stefanik a great deal that Mom Donnie won.

[Buck Sexton]

It would be so nice for the Empire State to return to a place of sanity. You're never going to get Texas or Florida policies in New York, although wouldn't that be nice? But you will be able to, I think, have a very close contest in the next governor's race because one, Hochul is terrible and two, Stefanik is a pretty talented and solid choice.

[Clay Travis]

That's right.

[Buck Sexton]

To run on the Republican side. So that. That is good. And also to your point about how this has been a tough week. We lost races we were supposed to lose.

[Clay Travis]

Yep.

[Buck Sexton]

There was no big shock or surprise at all. And that's just the way it's gonna go sometimes. So we dust ourselves off, we move forward. Remember, Trump is still in charge. He's still doing great things. And one of them is just pointing out, this is cut three clay. That Nancy Pelosi's retirement is perhaps the greatest act of patriotism she has ever made play three retirement.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

I think she's an able woman. I'm glad she's retiring.

[Buck Sexton]

I think she did the country a.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Great service by retiring.

[Buck Sexton]

I think she was a, a tremendous.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Liability for the country. I thought she was an evil woman.

[Buck Sexton]

Who did a poor job, who cost the country a lot in damages and in reputation. I thought she was terrible.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Thank you very much.

[Buck Sexton]

I like that he's just letting it rip. Look, she's retiring. She's not. He's not at a, at a, at a situation here where he has to say nice things and he's not going to say nice things because those would be untrue. I think Nancy Pelosi has been deeply destructive to the country, and I think it'll be a better place without her wielding the iron fist of Pelosi over the Democrats in the House. So let's see who the Democrats really are without Pelosi running cover and keeping them from being completely insane in public before elections.

[Clay Travis]

I do think it has to really gall Nancy Pelosi that she had to step down as Trump is at his most ascendant power. That's kind of a, you know, chef's Kiss. If I were Trump advisor there, I would say, you know what, I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it's time for her to step down. And I couldn't think it's better for the country that she's leaving the fight right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles I wish Nancy well in retirement. And the biggest loss we're gonna have with Nancy is I've been trying to figure out how to be as good of an investor as her. I don't know what we're all gonna do without having the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker out there to make us all rich. She's the Warren Buffett of Congress and really kind of gig her, but I think Trump genuinely detests her. So that came across in certainly the answer that he gave in that press conference yesterday. They're also continuing to batt, by the way, on the government shutdown and we'll see. Buck, my thought is that when people get frustrated at airports, then it's Democrats, it's Republicans, it's Independents. A lot of people will put up with political shenanigans until it starts directly impacting their day to day existence. And for those of us who travel and those of us who are trying to pick people up at airports and those of us who are trust trying to get around the country, this thing, can you imagine, Buck, if this thing extended for another few weeks and we moved into the Thanksgiving travel season, that would be absolutely bonkers. It's the most difficult time of year to be traveling anyway. And then you're going to layer it on top of people not getting paid and all of the chaos. And really the Democrat objectives here have always been very difficult to explain in a succinct fashion. And they're the ones shutting down the government. And I feel like they got their no Kings protest, they got their election wins in New Jersey and Virginia. There's zero doubt that Virginia was aided because there's so many federal employees by the fact that the government shutdown happened. Now let's go ahead and just open the government back up. And in fact, he's the same guy. This is exactly what John Fetterman said, buck. Play cut 7 world kitchens feeding government workers. Where?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

In my neighborhood in Navy Yard.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, it's really impacting these folks.

[Clay Travis]

It's like, you know, we've all been.

[Buck Sexton]

Paid, but all these workers haven't been paid.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

The Capitol police that are protecting here haven't been paid.

[Buck Sexton]

Our military, why that's not controversial. Pay our military pay all these folks.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

And make sure everyone's fed.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, why, why would we put ourselves.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

In that situation at this point?

[Buck Sexton]

You know, we've had the election, now.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

We can all reopen and I'll find a way forward.

[Clay Travis]

Now, this is kind of crazy, Buck, when you really break it all down, that maybe the thing that we were most wrong on, on the show in four years, aside from the Red Wave, 2022, I never would have ever believed, having watched the 2022 Senate campaigns, I never would have believed that John Fetterman would end up one of the most rational, reasonable, efficient, and effective senators. When it comes to just analyzing basic things like this, would you have ever bought in? Like if we went back in time to when he was engaged in the debate when he was running against Dr. Oz? I never would have ever believed that this could be a situation where Fetterman were louding and saying, hey, this guy is actually one of the best truth tellers on Capitol Hill. But I mean, everything he just said was imminently reasonable, not particularly partisan and rational. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but we need five or six more John Fettermans in order to get the country back up and running, get the government open.

[Buck Sexton]

What are the Democrats really achieving with all of that?

[Clay Travis]

Well, that's the question.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the thing that we're gonna have to look back on when this eventually ends. What have they gotten? I do not think Republicans can give them what they want, because then you've set a precedent, I might add. The minority party can say, I just want billions of dollars that have nothing to do with the actual funding of the government, or else I'm going to take my ball and go home, or else I'm, I'm going to stop things from happening in D.C. you can't, you can't negotiate with terrorists, my friends. This is congressional terrorism, so to speak. This is not playing by the pre established rules. So eventually you're going to have to just see who's got the grit, who stays together as a, as a caucus. And I'm, I'm hopeful Republicans stay with it.

[Clay Travis]

I do think the one thing Trump keeps saying, hey, we need the filibuster. You know, they've moderated the filibuster on ending the filibuster. They've moderated the filibuster on a great number of different aspects. To me, there is a decent argument to be made, and I think our friend Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin has made this argument publicly for some time. And in fact, if he's listening. He's welcome to call in and make it better than I'm about to make it. But can we just do away with the ability to shut down the government and require there be 60 votes to reopen it? That doesn't seem like the filibuster for many things. Makes sense. Should we have a filibuster when it comes to whether you can add Supreme Court justices or add senators from New Jersey, senators from.

[Buck Sexton]

You can't have a minority of the Senate say, sorry, no government business till I get what I want. That's crazy.

[Clay Travis]

That would seem like a solution. And look, Republicans may be frustrated by that somewhere down the line, but the majority party should be able to keep the government open. That seems very basic to me. And so, you know, I would love to hear Senator Johnson explain exactly that perspective, but it seems like a reasonable middle ground that doesn't require eliminating the entirety of the filibuster and instead would just allow government to be open so that we can all be able to take airplane flights safely and so that the soldiers can get paid. And so we make sure that a lot of people out there who are doing government jobs like air traffic controllers aren't getting paychecks showing that they earned $0 despite the fact that they've been working crazy hours. Look, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does great work both in Israel and here in the United States. They bring the Christian and Jewish communities together to help one another. The outpouring of support by Christian communities wanting to help Jewish populations super strong. Whether it's helping Israeli residents impacted by two years of missile attacks or caring for neighbors here at home in the U.S. the IFCJ has been there for all of that. And at a time like now, particularly with the rise in antisemitism, the work of the IFCJ is more important than ever. We just saw what happened in an upscale neighborhood in New Jersey this week with the arrest of two teenagers plotting to kill Jews. Unfortunately, swastikas on Jewish related buildings in New York City. The night after Mamdani is elected as the mayor, when Jewish communities are threatened, Christians surround them with support. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is at the center of that support. The IFCJ is helping survivors of hate rebuild their lives. And they don't just respond to crisis, they work every day to prevent it. Your gift of $45 will help support their life saving work by helping to provide food, shelter and much more. Please call 888-488-IFCJ. That's 888-488-4325. You can also go online to ifcj.org every dollar can help. Don't wait. Be the difference. Visit ifcj.org or call 888-488-ICCJ. Now Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcasts Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Second hour of clay and buck kicks off now. Everybody. Appreciate you being with us. We're having a great Friday already. Definitely want to take a lot of your talkbacks, your VIP emails, your live calls, of course. 8882 800-288-2882.

[Clay Travis]

Now you're going to cross me up. I.

[Buck Sexton]

Guys. What? What? I just forgot my own call number.

[Clay Travis]

It's been like 2822882. Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

I said it right? Right?

[Clay Travis]

I think you just, you, you questioned yourself as you went through it every now and then that happens to me, too.

[Buck Sexton]

One thing that has happened in the era of smartphones, I. It's actually a point of anxiety for me. I do not know any phone numbers.

[Clay Travis]

Correct.

[Buck Sexton]

And back in the day when I. When we had old school answering machines, remember, you'd sit there and you were like, in college or whatever, or maybe you were a young guy in your 20s, you had your voicemail and you're like, hey, I'm not like, trying to sound cool. I'm just casual and want you to leave your message at the beep, you know, remember all that stuff. Don't lie to me.

[Clay Travis]

A lot of you did over and.

[Buck Sexton]

Over, you did multiple takes over and over again of your answering machine voicemail. So that was very, very much a throwback. But yes. So, Clay, let's dive in, shall we? Let's dive into what Trump is saying about the filibuster, about affordability and about all of that good stuff. Oh, and I was just gonna say is, back in the day, I used to remember all the phone numbers, too. I got.

[Clay Travis]

I still remember friends from high school's phone number.

[Buck Sexton]

I remember my high school phone number to this day.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. But I can't remember any other numbers either because everything's in the phone and you, you know, pull up somebody's name and have no idea. By the way, loaded lines. A lot of good feedback, too, coming in. A lot of people reacting to our boy who called in from Ohio and gave Trump an F on the first 10 months.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's. That's. That's gonna get the. That's gonna get the folks riled up. Speaking of Trump, here he is. He. Look, he's saying it. He wants the filibuster ended right now, at least to open the government. That I agree with. Look, you're going to say this is a bit of a change. Yeah. But this is a change that we can live with if. I don't think Republicans should be able to, in minority, demand 60 votes to open the government.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't think Democrats should be able to do this in minority either. This is sabotage of the system that the system did not predetermine should exist. Here's Trump play four.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Well, I think it's time for them to end the filibuster and just put everybody back to work. Vote in voter id, vote in no mail in voting, except for military, faraway military, and people that are very sick.

[Buck Sexton]

No, I'd like to see one day voting. I'd like to see not 65 days of voting from all over the place.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Though, I'd like to clean up the elections. The border. We've done a great job. We have a great, strong border now I'd like to see. And new rules on immigration that could be fair and good. You know, you'll never get rules that they're never going to get.

[Buck Sexton]

There's so many things we could put.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

In, including tax cuts that we could.

[Buck Sexton]

Get and we could do it all ourselves.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

But to do that, you have to.

[Buck Sexton]

End the filibuster, Clay. If Democrats really aren't. Aren't going to blink here. The election's over and there doesn't seem to be much movement from them to reopen the government. And people, you are one of them, are dealing with the realities of what this means.

[Clay Travis]

Now.

[Buck Sexton]

You're supposed to fly today. Yes. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen here, my friend. You might have to try to, you know, hitch a ride on Air Force One or something.

[Clay Travis]

That would be nice because I bet you could definitely take off. But I'm. I got the email, as I said early, early today from my travel situation, and they're just like, if it was like somebody telling you, hey, we may be able to hang out, we might not be able to hang out, it's really kind of on you. You might want to make plans with somebody else. It's like trying to go on a date with somebody who doesn't really want to go on a date with you. Which, you know, by the way, I've been through that. I will say this audience is amazing. People are so kind out there. We got an email from a Southwest pilot. I heard Clay may have trouble getting out of New York. I have a standby ticket he can use. This is a Southwest pilot, and he reached out. I've got a flight on Southwest, so I am going to right now be going an hour early on the show so that I can get out. Maybe I will call and report from the airport. To be able to get back home and not get left in New York City, it's like escape from New York City here time. I'm going to get back to Nashville. But I have been on a ton of Southwest Airlines flights in my life because they go in and out of Nashville. It's my favorite airline. People pick on me about it sometimes, but I'm on Southwest all the time. So many of their flight attendants and now pilots I have met that are fans of this show, that are fans of Outkick. I Love that airline. I'm just going to be honest with you. I love the people that work on Southwest Airlines as a group. Just a fantastic collection of people. And the fact that one of our listeners out there is a Southwest pilot and he just reached out and said, hey, I can help get you on standby on a flight. I mean, you guys are fantastic. Now we got a lot of people who want to weigh in on a variety of different topics. It's Friday. Let's hit some of these loaded phone lines. Let's see. Dan, Bend, Oregon Dan, you're a three time Trump voter. We had Jacob call in and gave him an F. Do you also give him an F?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

No, sir, I. Good morning. I would give him a C minus though, just because first off, we know Trump's not a one man show, right. He has an administration of people he relies upon. So I think from my perspective, some of the decisions he's making.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, so let me, let me pause you here for a sec. C minus. Okay. I don't agree with that rating, but that is, you know, that's not an F, right? I don't think anybody who voted three times for Trump would give him an F, honestly, in the first 10 months. What? Why would you give him a C minus? Buck? I'm going to be honest with you, I would give him an A. He's done almost everything that I thought he would do. He's been more effective and efficient.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I don't want to quibble. I might just say A minus because you can always do a little better. But I'm right there with you.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, I'm curious. What, Dan, what has Trump not done that you anticipated he would do in the first 10 months such that you give him a C minus?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

And. Great question. Thank you. It's not necessarily what I anticipated or expected Trump to do. It's what he has done that is brought into my questions. The focus on data centers, the focus on money from the Middle east, the recent discussion about no longer allowing medical debts to be exempted on credit reports. And again, some of the decisions I do believe that Trump has made specifically focus on the way his administration has guided him. The one big beautiful bill. A lot of great things passed. I thought, I thought they could have been better. But I know he worked hard and he got a lot of good things done. But unfortunately, when I hear him say things like forgiving Google and Apple and how the EU should no longer give them fines and penalties is ridiculous when these guys are also up on charges.

[Clay Travis]

America, for committing this Is, thank you for the call.

[Buck Sexton]

And I, I was going to ask our, I was going to ask our esteemed caller. I feel like you might, too. Are you maybe being a little unrealistic about what's possible for the president to.

[Clay Travis]

Do also, how perfect he's supposed to be? My thought would be maybe you're involved in tech. These are very specific. Like, very specific. It feels like issues that matter to you specifically but aren't necessarily at the top of the list for most voters.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Yes, in other ways. As I, as I make under 50,000 sitting here on the ground and being disabled, I also feel this income pinch and I feel the hardships of what the economy is doing. I work full time. I don't, I don't take any disability payments. But, you know, I do see how it affects other people and other families. I do see how stores and others are taking advantage of it. Doesn't mean it's all Trump, right? It does not. But it does mean that his administration has caused some issues down here. So when we focused on tariffs without focusing on domestic production, that would have boosted the economy. Using those tariffs as an advantage versus a weapon, I just think was poorly timed. It's a good plan. We needed it. But I think there were things to fix the Biden economics that screwed us over really bad as a priority.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, thank you for the call. Basically, it sounds like he mostly doesn't agree with the things that Trump has done. We said, and I think this is important to remember that this was an election and I think Trump ran it as an election that was focused on the economy, border crime. You hear nothing about the border. I don't know that anybody has ever been more successful in directly addressing what they said they would address on something like the border than we've ever seen in any of our lives. The border is just not an issue. Right. For a huge majority of you, the border was maybe your number one issue. Certainly it was in the top three. So border is solved. He solved it in 10 months. He solved it in six months. Crime, we are right now heading towards potentially a 50 or 60 year low in murders in the country in cities that Trump has actually aggressively addressed. Washington, D.C. my home state city of Memphis. The number of murders is plummeting. I buck this is not getting attention in Memphis. I had somebody reach out to me. We're going to get on a politician from Memphis to talk about it. He said there's a 70% decline in violent crime right now in Memphis. Again, a lot of people don't pay attention to Memphis, I get it. It's a, you know, one of the top 40 or 50 biggest cities. There's a lot of other cities that are bigger that get more attention. That's an unbelievable success story that could be extrapolated elsewhere. Economy. Stock market is at record highs. Gas prices are down for the last four years compared to where they were. The problem here I see on economy and people say, oh, you don't see it? I do see it. Prices went up so fast that people are angry. Trump can't make prices go back to where they were in 2019 and 2020. It's never going to happen for the rest of our lives. Biden screwed up so bad that the best thing Trump can do is try to rehabilitate the economy that Biden destroyed. That's the reality. And so I get that people are frustrated. I think the people who are most frustrated with Trump are upset because grocery bills are still high and rent is still high and everything costs more than you think it should. I get it. The problem is nothing ever goes back in price. So you don't get to wave a magic wand and be like, hey, everything costs what it did in 2019. That's the pernicious awfulness of inflation and why it is so disastrous to any country.

[Buck Sexton]

The hope here is that the increases in productivity that will come from AI and I don't think this is pie in the sky. I've seen, you know, when you see enough drone factories and things, you know, when I was in Taiwan and when I was at TSMC and talking to them about what. What is already possible technologically, our lives are going to be very different over the next 10 years from what we've been used to in terms of a lot of things that we're not going to have to do, a lot of things that will be very easy to do or be done for us. And that means that there can be attendant quality of life and productivity increases and general wealth.

[Clay Travis]

Right?

[Buck Sexton]

They're like, wealth that all of us, we are all richer than the kings of Europe from the time of Henry viii. All of us, all of you listening right now. Now it is possible for humanity to actually just be wealthier. I do think that AI is going to be a big part of that. But the other issue we have is that we have a political system where half the country still thinks that the other half the country is going to come up with ways to pay all of the bills that they don't want to pay. And that's not going to change. And that's Also, unfortunately not sustainable if they're going to just run the printing presses like crazy. And I know people say, well, Trump spent a lot of money during COVID He did, but the Democrats absolutely demanded that, and no one seems willing to do anything about it now to bring the curve down in the other direction. So this is where we are. We talk about this. It's very frustrating. Whenever the debt becomes an issue and we want to have that conversation, it goes beyond just, oh, yeah, that's a political issue. People say, well, I paid into this and they take it very personally. You know, I paid for Medicare, whatever it may be. All right, so then we just keep doing what we're doing. This is where, this is where it ends up. And I think, unfortunately, if you want to talk about prices, when you have more dollars chasing fewer goods, this is like econ 100 one week, one more dollars out in the system chasing fewer goods and services. You have inflation, and that's what happened. And now we're dealing with it. But, you know, deflation would be a painful process as well. So if it comes too quickly and I don't know, what do you think? Am I, Am I basically, as the broad strokes correct here?

[Clay Travis]

Your broad strokes are completely correct. And I get it. I think that the degree of frustration is through the roof over cost of goods and economy. Border crime. Border solved crime trending towards record lows thanks to police being supported. I don't think it's getting enough attention. And Trump has attacked in a way that I don't know that we've ever seen before, the violent crime in this country. And he's winning on that level. And I think you just have to trust him. I really do believe the economy is going to be firing on all cylinders. I think it's going pretty well in the stock market right now. Gas prices are down again. I think it's going to be firing on all cylinders by, by the spring and summer. Problem is prices are not coming back down. And I think it's to the extent that anyone has promised you in any way that prices are gonna come back down to 2019 or 2020 levels. The pre Biden era prices is just not. Physically, it's not gonna happen.

[Buck Sexton]

Think of Mamdani. Mamdani's big winning line for a lot of the young people in New York who voted for him is, I'm gonna freeze their rent. That makes the problem of affordability worse, everybody. That makes it worse. It may not make it worse that day, but it will make it worse in the long run.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day. Spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in, we got a special guest with us, Dr. Mark Siegel. You all know him from Fox News where he's a senior medical analyst. He's the author of the Miracles Among Us, How God's Grace Plays a role in healing. Dr. Siegel, congrats on the book. Thanks for calling in.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Great to be with you today. You know I'm a friends of your wife, right?

[Buck Sexton]

Oh yeah. But Carrie's a big fan. So when you have a book coming out, it's not even a question. She's like, she just told me Dr. Siegel's come on and talk about his book. I said yes ma', am, right away. Tell us about the book.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Same as me. So look, the book starts with the idea that there's the Catholic church has miracles that are very rigid. But I actually look into that and I do a chapter on Lourdes and I in France and I actually interviewed the doctor there, Defranciscus, who actually is a Harvard epidemiologist who trained as a pediatrician and he's very religious. That's the key to this book, that you can combine faith and science. They're not different and they're not separate. It's not like, oh no, I'm doing surgery now, I can't believe in God. That's just crazy. In fact, we have to be looking at our patients as precious, as spiritual, as individuals. That's why I'm against physician assisted suicide. This book is about people who defy the odds. And in Lourdes, there's one case of Bernadette, like the Bernadette that inspired Lourdes years ago, where she was completely unable to walk because of her chorda equina syndrome and she couldn't control her bowels or bladder and horrible foot pain. She was in a wheelchair. She went and visited there three days later. She felt heat through her body and suddenly was fine. And all through prayer and defranciscus looked at this. But here's the point. He got 33 other doctors involved. He got an expert involved, he got radiologists involved, even got psychiatrists involved. All said, this is really a spontaneous intervention of God. Now, that's not the only thing the book is about, because those are hard miracles. Those are church miracles. There's also miracles that I am more interested in, which is an accumulation of coincidences. I call it a miracle lane. You're in the miracle lane and you can't even pick out which is the specific miracle. The publisher of the book from Harper Collins and I, Lisa Sharkey, we actually have a back and forth. What's the main miracle of that chapter? And Clay will be interested to know that the Mar Hamlin story has a lot more miracles to it than you might think.

[Clay Travis]

Tell me about that, because for a lot of people out there, that is one of the most chilling things to see happen on a football field. For those of you who have forgotten, football player makes a hit playing for the Buffalo Bills and nearly dies on the field, they have to bring out the. The shock machine to try to. To bring him back to life. They put him in an ambulance, rush him out of there. A game basically ends right then and there. What is the backstory now on Demar Hamlin and how exactly that went down?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

The backstory is the first miracle. It's that Leslie Bisson, who is the team physician for the Buffalo Bills and the Buffalo Sabres, and the head of orthopedics at Buffalo, at the Medical School in 2007, he had a skater almost die. It was a former Buffalo Sabre skater, and he bled from a carotid artery, and he barely saved them with all of these transfusions. And he said, you know what? From here on, all of my teams are going to rehearse for tragic events on the field, and they're going to be rehearsed and we're going to be ready. And when he Went to the Buffalo Bills. They said, leslie, you're crazy. We haven't had a cardiac arrest on the field since 1955. He says, I'm rehearsing. And he had a premonition that one day this would be needed, but everyone thought he was crazy. But he had a drill and he had a defibrillator right there. And he trained the trainer of the Bills. And all of them were ready for an event where somebody dropped on the field like Demar did. That's why they rushed over there. And we have an expression in medicine, time is brain. And they started CPR so fast, and that defibrillator so fast, and they got the shoulder pads off so fast only because they had rehearsed it. Now, the next part of the miracle is that when tomorrow was recovering, people don't know this, but the more. And I interviewed everybody for this, and the doctors and the trainers and every Demar was recovering. It took him a while to feel back in the game, let's say, so to speak. And, you know, it wasn't just, I won't. He woke up. What was the final score? It was more like it took a few days for him to come back to himself. And then it was a combination of prayer, very religious tomorrow, and yoga and meditation. All of these things helped him. And then he felt, and this is another key to the book, that having received a miracle, he needed to give out miracles. And so he went around the community, and he has been the biggest proponent of defibrillators, AEDs, automatic defibrillators in any facility imaginable. He's out there teaching CPR with that with the sports doc with Leslie Bisson, and he goes all over the country. He's a great human being. God's giving back to him.

[Buck Sexton]

Speaking to Dr. Mark Siegel of Fox News, he's got a book out, the Miracles Among Us. How God's Grace Plays a role in healing. Dr. Siegel, interesting that there's research, real research, that has been done and is still being done on prayer and helping people to heal. I'm wondering if you could speak to that.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Well, first of all, believe it or not, the part of the brain, the right frontal part of the brain. I spoke to the researcher on this exact issue. That part of the brain where you connect the dots and you kind of have to use your imagination and creativity that creates such a positive feeling, believing in miracles, that it takes the place of negative feelings like political divisiveness in the same part of the brain, and it wants you to join a community and it gives you a sense of hope and reassurance to think that there's a greater force than you out there that makes these decisions. God gives us the miracles he wants us to have, not necessarily the ones we're asking for. And knowing that, that we should fear God but not each other, is greatly uplifting. It definitely decreases depression and it improves health outcomes, which has been shown again and again. And I also talk about that in the book where way back in the Old Testament, Hannah's praying for his son. And God only answers that prayer because he looks down the road and he knows that son will be Samuel, who becomes a great prophet so that we have to put our lives and our futures in God's hands. Another great story from the book related to that is Robert Redfield's son who hits his head. Robert Redfield, former CDC director, hits his head, goes into a deep coma, nearly herniates, is not expected to recover at all. But he ends up being brought to the top trauma center in the country, in the world, in Maryland. And Tom Scalia is not a big believer. He runs the place. But he says, you know, we do miracles here every day. I said, what are the chances of Danny Redfield having a full recovery? He says, probably zero. Danny Redfield fully recovers and ends up back on the golf course, beating his old scores because Robert Redfield and his wife are praying to God every single day. You know, he knew John Paul ii. He's involved in the Catholic Church. He has a group of Franciscan sisters praying for him in upstate New York. One day, and this is a great story, one day, he says to Danny, who is starting to recover, something's wrong with your eye, Danny. What's wrong with your eye? Are you seeing double? Danny says, no, I can't see out of my right eye at all. So Redfield goes back to God and he says, you promised me a full recovery. And I said to Redfield, you criticized the Lord. And he said, why not? At work two weeks later, Danny seemed well out of both eyes.

[Clay Travis]

That's an amazing, amazing. Tell us how to get the book. Because going around, I'm going around trying to sell a book right now. I know how hard this is for people out there who like these stories and would like to maybe get some inspiration in their life. How can they find it?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

And that's the key, by the way. Every one of us has a miracle we can tell. My father's 102 years old, my mother's 100. They've kept together through all of the medical turns in the road. You need this.

[Clay Travis]

How many years have they been. Hold on. How many years have they been married?

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

They've been married 73 years. And they. And they're married through love of each other. And the fact that doctors believe that you can operate and fix a hip on a 98 year old or put a 99 year old on a ventilator. Doctors that believe in what they're doing and believe in God are more likely not to give up on you. And that's really important, that every story will inspire you in this book that you might have the same thing happen to you. And you can get this book on through Amazon, through Fox News Books, through Barnes and Noble, and it will. It will be published on November 18, but right now it's available in pre orders. Get my book. Get your book as well.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, everybody buy books.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's read more great books for the holidays. Dr. Siegel, appreciate you, sir. Come back anytime.

[Dr. Mark Siegel]

Great to be on with you guys. Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Goodbye. All right, welcome back in. Give the little ass buck anything. We might be getting a call from Clay any minute, but you can call in asking whatever you want. How about that? Friday and we're having a good time here. You like I said, Clay might be ringing us from the airport to let us know what kind of chaos, what kind of a mess it has all turned into. There it is. It is tough. It is not going well here with the shutdown situation. J.D. vance, this is 25. J.D. vance is saying now the pain start. It's one thing to have a shutdown for a few days a week, 10 days. Now there's real consequences to this stuff. Play 25 the American people are unfortunately.

[Clay Travis]

About to start suffering some very real.

[Buck Sexton]

Consequences because of the shutdown.

[Clay Travis]

In the past when you had a.

[Buck Sexton]

Government shutdown, you would have under the.

[Clay Travis]

Obama administration, they would lean into all of the problems it was going to cause for the American people.

[Buck Sexton]

At the beginning of the shutdown, the.

[Clay Travis]

President has told us to keep as.

[Buck Sexton]

Much going as humanly possible.

[Clay Travis]

But after 30 days, days of this.

[Buck Sexton]

Thing, 40 days of this thing, you're.

[Clay Travis]

Going to start seeing very real travel delays.

[Buck Sexton]

That's because the Democrat government shut down.

[Clay Travis]

You're going to start seeing snap benefits run out. That's because the Democrat government shut down.

[Buck Sexton]

They should stop the charade and open up the government.

[Clay Travis]

That's what we want them to do. We've been asking them to do it for 40 days.

[Buck Sexton]

It's time. Why not just open the government up and then say, hey guys, we also have to fix the Obamacare exchanges by funneling billions of dollars of subsidies to them afterwards. Words. Do they really think that Republicans are going to allow people to have $40,000 a year in expense for some of these Obamacare approved plans, which is what some of these plans are going to cost for a family of four, just completely unaffordable stuff. I mean, stuff that will, will destroy people's finances. What you'll have is a lot of people will refuse to get insurance. And remember, we don't have those Obamacare fines anymore. Right. They got rid of that. So you'll just have a lot of people who go uninsured. Isn't that the great irony of this? Obamacare will have made health insurance so expensive that without billions of dollars of subsidies showered on it to just artificially make people think the price has been decreased. Obamacare, the Affordable Care act will have made health care so unaffordable that people will choose not to have it. That's, that's going to become the legacy of the aca. I think at some level, Democrats recognize this is going to be a problem for them. This is going to be a problem for their party because this is still the single most transformational, unfortunately, in a very bad way, piece of legislation that the Democrat Party has managed to get through. I'm probably in 20 something years, I don't know. You have to go back quite a while. The other big things the Democrats have gotten that are wins are all just judicial fiat.

[Clay Travis]

Right?

[Buck Sexton]

It's the Supreme Court before the Trump appointees came on board handing them, and in some cases, even with the Trump appointees handing Democrats the policy victories they could have never gotten at the ballot box. And so there we have it. Oh, speaking of judges, you also have this judge now who has ruled this is what the administration must do on SNAP food stamps. Notice that. Why would they change? This isn't. This is meaningful. Why is it this Supplemental Nutritional Assistance program, why not just call it food stamps? What's, what's wrong with that? Or you even call it something like food aid. You know, why do we have to call it supplemented? We come up with this science y sounding. The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance, it's buying free food for people. It is food welfare. Now, there are reasons when people can be down on their luck, things happen. I get it. I do not think that we should have no safety net. Well, if anything, we should have a safety net where we take care of each other. And our decency and charity as Americans means that nobody would ever go hungry because we don't allow them to. But I'm not opposed to a safety net. And I understand that things can be difficult and people have challenges. But I also think we should call things what they are. I also think that when you're giving food welfare, we should know as a people that's what it is. You hear that term welfare? A Lot less. It's all these. All these bureaucracies also that administer this stuff don't want people to think of what they're doing as welfare because then they realize that this is their money that's just being handed to people. And also the bureaucracies are very, very wasteful and very bloated. So they remember the bureaucracies take a cut because it's government money going through government hands to get to the people who are getting it for free. So, yeah, we should call it food stamps. The same way they don't want you to think of illegal alien, somebody who is not American, not supposed to be in the country, undocumented. What does undocumented even mean? It's really a meaningless term. The problem is that they lack a document. No, the problem is that they're illegally in the United States and they're in violation of our laws. So these things do matter. The way we talk about this does make a difference. But on the SNAP ruling, because this is now that's the official government term for it, maybe Trump should change that. Call it. Call it food, welfare. What's wrong with that? All the different welfare forms we have, I might add, you know, people refer to Section 8 housing, for example. What does that mean? That could be anything. Section 8 housing. We don't call the Medicaid. We don't call anything really. I mean, there's probably some exceptions, but we don't call things welfare anymore because it's always supposed to be hidden from the American people and the taxpayer. The size and scope of the free stuff that we are giving to people in a country where half the country pays no income tax whatsoever. That's. That's not a good and sustainable program, is it? Here's Vance on the. The judge's ruling about how this is just a judge saying this is what the federal government must do now. The government shut down on food stamps. Play 26.

[Clay Travis]

It's an absurd ruling because you have.

[Buck Sexton]

A federal judge effectively telling us what.

[Clay Travis]

We have to do in the midst of a Democrat government shutdown, which what we'd like to do is for the.

[Buck Sexton]

Democrats to open up the government.

[Clay Travis]

Of course, then we can fund snap, and we can also do a lot of other good things for the American people.

[Buck Sexton]

But in the midst of a shutdown.

[Clay Travis]

We can't have a federal court telling the President how he has to triage the situation.

[Buck Sexton]

We're trying to keep as much turned on.

[Clay Travis]

We're trying to keep as much going as possible. The President and the entire administration are working on that, but we're not going to do it under the orders of.

[Buck Sexton]

A, a federal judge.

[Clay Travis]

We're going to do it according to what we think we have to do to comply with the law, of course, but also to actually make the government work for people in the midst of.

[Buck Sexton]

The Democrat government shutdown. I mean, what if the judge just said the Democrats, I've got a better idea. Hey, judge, whatever, you know, Obama or Biden or maybe, maybe, probably not Clinton, that's going back too far. But Obama, Biden, judge, this is, is order the Democrats to reopen the government. Why don't we try that one? If we're just gonna become king for a day as a federal judge, let's just have the government reopened by the fiat of a judge. Just trample on, trample on the executive. I mean the legislative branches prerogative, just forget about all that. You're the judge, you're the emperor in the black robes and just do your thing.

[Clay Travis]

Thing.

[Buck Sexton]

There's way too much of this, way too much of this stuff going on to try to stop this administration, to order around this administration, to dictate to the Trump team from these judges. And notice that Trump, just the way he handles it is to go to court, go through the process, go through the process. That's not how Kings do things for the no Kings protest. Honestly, I don't know how people, I don't know how you can take yourself seriously if you go to a no Kings protest. Oh, no Kings. It is so pathetic. But people would rather continue to be sanctimonious and wrong than be self effacing and right. So common. Unfortunately, it's so common. I hate being wrong. Clay and I share this. We both, if we get any fact wrong, anything we say, when I say wrong, inaccurate, right predictions, you know, you win some, you lose some. We like to have fun with predictions, but I was. No one can predict the future. So that's, that is what it is. That's more of a parlor game than anything else. But accuracy really counts. Accuracy really matters. It bothers me to be inaccurate, but also analysis. If I'm really wrong on a point of analysis, I try to go back, admit that first off, and then try to understand why. The great part about being a Democrat is never admitting you're wrong, never admitting that your policies are dumb, that your ideas are idiotic, that it's destructive, that you make everything worse for everyone, including yourself. With most of the things that you want to have happen. You know, the, the walk back from climate change is the biggest Existential threat in the world, which is happening a little bit quietly, but with Bill Gates and others, too. Why? Why are they making more movies about how I'm in Florida. Go, go try to get a deal on Florida, Florida beachfront real estate right now, ok? Especially given what just happened in New York. Go try to get a deal, say somebody. You know what? I'm gonna help you out. You're right here on the beach, very close to those rising oceans. I'm gonna give you 20% of what you think this place is worth. I'll take it off your hands, see what happens. Let me. Let me know how that goes for you. Of course it was all nonsense. It was all lies. They were all wrong. All that climate change stuff is absurd, and yet they never have to stop and think. You know what? Hmm? Maybe there's a problem there. Same thing with the government shutdown, I might add. As soon as we end this government shutdown, or rather it ends, Democrats are going to pretend like this wasn't a thing that they did and the suffering that people had because of it was not their fault. They're just going to lie about all of it. And lies, unfortunately, as they're very destructive, they're also very powerful. Lies are a very effective tool of power because if you can always lie to people about what you do, you can never be held responsible for what you do. And therefore, you can convince the masses of whatever you need to to stay in power just by lying to them. That's why when Gavin Newsom said he hates politicians who lie, everyone across the country with an IQ above 50 was like, laughing out loud. But Gavin doth protest too much on that one. Oh, we're gonna close out with calls, talkbacks, VIPs, all that good stuff coming up here momentarily. And also to tell you here about Legacy Box, which is honestly just awesome. Uh, some of the best family moments are when you relive those historical moments that you've had together. And few things can bring those memories back to life more than old home movies. If you've got family movies on video cassettes, the contents of those are the stuff legends are made of. And if you got a bunch of them, this is the time to digitally transfer them. With legacy boxes help. That way, the memories are preserved forever. If you move fast, you can have your tapes digitized and put onto a thumb drive onto the cloud and ready in time for this Christmas season. When the family is together, reliving those great memories is guaranteed to bring laughs, amazement, tears, every possible emotion. The whole experience makes for a great gift. Clay has done this. I have done this. We love Legacy Box right now. Get early access to Legacy Box's Black Friday sale. Digitize your memories for just $9 per tape. That's 66% off regular pricing. Just $9 to preserve and share your precious memories. We've relied on Legacy Box in years past to digitize our family's memories. This $9 deal won't last long. Head to legacybox.com buck for early access to our best deal of the year. Order the Legacy Box today and have it wrapped up in plenty of time for Christmas. Legacybox.com Buck Buck Legacybox.com Buck keep up.

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