Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 21 2025

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Daily Review with Clay and Buck – October 21, 2025
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Episode Theme: Clay and Buck break down the nation’s most pressing political stories with their signature blend of intellect and humor. Main topics today include the New York City mayor’s race, the ongoing government shutdown, culture war controversies around free speech and cancel culture, Trump’s White House ballroom renovations, and post-pandemic reflections.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the complexities of the New York City mayor’s race, the ramifications and politics of the ongoing federal government shutdown, the enduring effects of COVID-era governance, and recent controversies regarding speech and conduct in public life. Through witty banter and pointed debate, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dissect headlines, highlight absurdities, and spar over political strategy, offering both local insight and national implications.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. New York City Mayor’s Race: Sliwa, Cuomo, and Mamdani

(See ~02:05–14:58, 22:31–26:57)

• Curtis Sliwa’s Refusal to Drop Out

  • Sliwa, Republican candidate, is under pressure (tabloids, GOP allies) to drop out to avoid splitting the anti-Mamdani vote.
  • Sliwa asserts Democrats created the conditions for the current predicament and refuses to “save” them (11:11).
  • “How dare you people who know nothing about politics suggest that everybody who's going to vote for me is suddenly going to be reborn. We love Andrew Cuomo. He killed all these elderlies...He told conservatives and Republicans...you need to leave. This is the result of the Democrats’ self destruction.” – Curtis Sliwa (11:11)
  • Clay and Buck debate whether Sliwa’s continued campaign ensures a far-left win or unwittingly helps the larger GOP cause.

• Risk and Ramifications:

  • Buck posits Mamdani’s victory could both doom NYC while helping Republicans elsewhere by painting Democrats as radicals.
  • Clay notes this “let the island go under” perspective forces leftist policies’ consequences to play out:
    • “Part of the problem is that leftists have a much higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a lot of the sane people realize.” – Clay Travis (13:17)
  • Sliwa’s best defense: protecting down-ballot GOP candidates.

• Polling and Election Realities:

  • Citing polling, Clay says there’s no realistic scenario for a GOP or moderate win, with Mamdani all but inevitable (24:16).

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2. Government Shutdown: Causes, Tactics, and Political Spin

(See 02:05–05:13, 52:53–58:55)

• Democrats vs. Republicans Blame Game:

  • Clay: “Democrats view the obstruction...what they used to call it when you didn't do whatever President Obama wanted...Obstruction is their only game plan right now.” (02:05)
  • Discussion of how Schumer and the Democrats frame the shutdown as a GOP/Trump stunt, while Buck and Clay argue the Dems are equally culpable.
  • “Our country is staring down the barrel of a health care catastrophe. And Republicans will spend this week either vacationing or holding pep rallies at the White House...” – (Schumer, paraphrased by hosts, 55:24)

• Shutdown as Leverage:

  • Trump, according to Clay and Buck, uses the shutdown and OMB Director Russ Vought ("Darth Vader") to surgically cut Democrat priorities (53:52).
  • “We have Darth Vader...he’s cutting Democrat priorities and they're never going to get them back.” – Trump (52:53)

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3. Culture Wars, Cancel Culture, and Speech in Public Life

(See 27:31–35:44)

• Controversial Teacher at “No Kings” Protest:

  • Clay addresses the viral video of a teacher making a throat-slashing gesture toward a Trump-identified vehicle, invoking debates on free speech vs. professional morality.
  • Listeners call in; opinions range from support for teacher’s free speech to Clay’s stance on professional boundaries.
    • “If we employed someone on the Clay and Buck show that celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination...the First Amendment doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences for your behavior.” – Clay (30:53)
    • “It's always situational with leftists. They want what they want, how they want it, when they want it. There's no principle, no rule...” – Clay (31:41)
  • The hosts discuss similar cases—if the gesture had targeted left-leaning figures, the outrage (and job risk) would be swift.

• Broader Cancel Culture Hypocrisy:

  • “You don't get to make a free speech argument [for job protection] if you’re advancing leftist ideology...cancel culture was about irrational firings for things half the country agrees with.” – Buck (32:48)

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4. COVID Policy and Hindsight: Political and Cultural Accountability

(See 35:44–40:42)

• Reappraising COVID Hawks:

  • Reflections on Cuomo’s disastrous COVID policies (nursing homes, no-bail policies), and how these are overlooked as he’s recast as “savior” of NYC.
  • “How were they during COVID? It was the stress test in all these respects...Cuomo...really set the tone of panic and authoritarianism alongside it that all these other states followed.” – Buck (38:00)

• Athletes Defying COVID Mandates Praised in Retrospect:

  • Stephen A. Smith credits Kyrie Irving for standing up for medical autonomy:
    • “Kyrie said no, props to him, but I didn't view it that way [at the time].” – Stephen A. Smith (39:26)
  • Clay and Buck note few in the media will acknowledge such dissenters were right in hindsight (40:20).

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5. Trump’s White House Ballroom, Kennedy Lore, and Media Myths

(See 46:37–51:09)

• Trump’s Ballroom Renovation:
  • Trump touts a private-funded renovation project to create a new East Wing ballroom (47:16).
  • Tells colorful stories about JFK and the “swimming pool,” with Clay clarifying historic rumors about JFK hosting women there (48:08).
  • Clay and Buck riff on enduring myths about the Kennedy dynasty and media complicity:
    • “If you actually look at the conduct of JFK in the Oval Office...this idea that he was this strapping, handsome, all-American guy...is all a fabrication.” – Clay (50:12)
  • Discussion turns to other examples where media covered for presidential frailty—from FDR’s wheelchair to Woodrow Wilson’s wife running the White House (51:09).

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6. Healthcare Policy and Economic Lessons

(See 57:45–58:42)

• Jon Stewart’s Critique of Democratic Subsidies:
  • Stewart is quoted on government subsidies inflating costs:
    • “...when the government promises endless funds to insurance companies or private universities without any cost controls and Trump seems to understand this, prices rise far beyond the rate of inflation.” – Jon Stewart (57:55)
  • Buck endorses this “rare lucid point,” noting Democrats often lack economic understanding, raising costs for everyone.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Curtis Sliwa Defiant:

  “How dare you people who know nothing about politics suggest that everybody who’s going to vote for me is suddenly going to be reborn. We love Andrew Cuomo. He killed all these elderlies...He told conservatives and Republicans...you need to leave. This is the result of the Democrats’ self destruction.” — Curtis Sliwa (11:11)

• Clay’s Take on Leftist Pain Tolerance:

  “Part of the problem is that leftists have a much higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a lot of the sane people realize.” — Clay Travis (13:17)

• Trump on the Shutdown Strategy:

  “We have Darth Vader...he’s cutting Democrat priorities and they're never going to get them back.” — Trump (52:53)

• Teacher/Free Speech Debate:

  “...I think most people would not want their kids’ elementary school teacher to be a stripper. And I can’t believe it, but we have been deluged by people that actually disagreed with me.” — Clay Travis (27:31)

• Stephen A. Smith on COVID Dissenters:

  “Obviously, in hindsight, the brother, right...for having the foresight to see that we didn’t see at the time...Kyrie said no, props to him.” — Stephen A. Smith (39:26)

• Jon Stewart on Economic Realities:

  “The democratic solutions have never been to directly provide. It's always been a subsidy...prices rise far beyond the rate of inflation.” — Jon Stewart (57:55)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:05 – Show begins: shutdown, Trump’s White House ballroom, Hamas ceasefire, NYC mayor’s race intro
• 07:57–11:11 – Curtis Sliwa fires back at critics; rips Democrat “self destruction”
• 12:00–14:58 – Analysis: Sliwa, Cuomo, Mamdani, and the best/worst outcomes for each party
• 22:31–26:57 – NYC tabloids attack Sliwa; polling, election odds, the grim math for GOP
• 27:31–35:44 – Culture war flashpoint: teacher’s “no Kings” protest gesture, calls/clips, cancel culture philosophy
• 35:44–40:42 – COVID in hindsight: Cuomo’s record, Stephen A. Smith on athletes/mandates
• 46:37–51:09 – Trump on JFK/White House lore, Kennedy myths, media coverups
• 52:53–56:39 – Trump on shutdown strategy, Schumer’s blame game
• 57:45–58:42 – Jon Stewart, cost of subsidies, economics lesson

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Episode Final Thoughts

Clay and Buck deliver a rollicking, opinionated ride through the week’s dominant headlines, blending inside-baseball election analysis with wide-ranging cultural and political critique. The bitter medicine of New York’s mayoral politics, the slow burn of the shutdown, and the echoes of COVID-era battles underscore their case that American political life remains deeply turbulent, tribal, and unexpectedly comedic.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in, everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now, day 21 of the shutdown. It's a real shutdown situation they are having here. We will get into some of the back and forth. Pretty straightforward. Democrats view the obstructions what they used to call it when you didn't do whatever President Obama wanted. You all remember that obstruction is their only game plan right now. And if that means that they don't have anything beyond it, so be it. We can have a conversation about that. President Trump is doing a $250 million White House ballroom renovation, which most exciting of all is that it's just a matter of time before Mr. Clay Travis puts on his dancing shoes and shows you all the crazy funky moves that he's got at some White House function. You know, he's going to, he's going to step on that dance floor, make John Travolta in his prime.

[Buck Sexton]

Look, I will just say for, for radio show hosts, particularly white guys who are radio show hosts, I would put myself in the top 5% best dancers. I don't know who else is actually really talented? And by the way, I'm not you. I wasn't practicing TikTok dance moves by myself in my apartment during COVID So it may be the case that you're in the 1% or the 0.1%, but I don't think that radio show hosts are renowned for their elite dance ability. So I feel confident. Much like when you came into the sports broadcasting, the press boxes and I said, hey, it doesn't take a lot to be a decent looking sports writer. I don't think it takes a lot to be a decent dancer in the radio world either.

[Clay Travis]

Well, there might be a. Forget a steak bet. There might have to be a dance on video. Put it on social and TikTok bet at some point now that we got the White House ballroom going. But that's just part of Trump's renovation of the White House that has been underway. We've got that discussion. Hamas has broken the ceasefire. That is not a surprise to me. I would assume to any of you, Hamas is going to continue on doing what it does. It has not changed anything about what it is. And there's going to have to be a further reckoning. They cannot allow Hamas leadership to stay in place. There can be no peace with Hamas. That is what we are seeing. That is not something that, like I said, comes out of the blue for anybody who's been paying attention in the region. But we can have some updates for you on that as we go. Also, Judge Jeanine is taking it, taking it to the mat in defense of Mr. Big Balls. What's his actual name? I forgot.

[Buck Sexton]

I know him as only as Big Balls. So I.

[Clay Travis]

That's.

[Buck Sexton]

There are worse things to be known as, I guess, in the grand scheme of things. But yes, let me see if I can find his action. It's very funny what his actual name is. He was beaten up in the. In the attacks and he's a great American.

[Clay Travis]

He stepped in to help somebody who's being carjacked. Carjacked by t. Teenagers, mind you, a mob of them.

[Buck Sexton]

Edward Corestein.

[Clay Travis]

Corestein. There we go. AKA Big ball. Yes, Judge Jeanine is having none of it. We shall discuss that. Karine Jean Pierre is out there making the case for her book to people. I think all these Biden books. You notice, Clay, you're not even hearing anyone talk about Kamala's book anymore.

[Buck Sexton]

Kamala? You're the one who read it. 107 days.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, that's called being a team player, Clay. Some of us are out there, some of Us are out there in the grove or whatever at Ole Miss partying and enjoying football, surrounded by great Americans and beautiful ladies. Some of us want to gouge our eyeballs out with a spoon cuz we are stuck reading 107 days. So I'm just saying, you know there, there are those of us who are on the all expenses cruise and those of us who are taking grenades in the trenches on this one. Nonetheless, nobody, nobody is talking about Kamala's book and Karine Jean Pierre's book comes down to I am so incapable of assessing what is going on around me that I really had no idea that Joe Biden had dementia. I really just didn't know. I almost think that's worse. I think it would be better to say, you know what I believe that Trump is so bad for America that I was willing to be a part of a big lie. And at least there'd be some integrity in admitting that, pretending you are so out of it and really kind of dumb that you have no idea that anyway. Well I, I don't. We can get more into that discussion. I'm going to start with this. People are getting very testy over. Some people are getting testy over the New York City mayor's race situation as the oncoming collectivist freight train of mamdaniism is getting closer and closer to my beloved New York City. And Curtis Sliwa is staying in all the calls including from a lot of New York based commentators. Clay, a lot of people are saying Curtis, look this you got to save New York from, from quo. I mean from a momdani. Cuomo is not great, but it'll be better. Cuomo is actually pretty awful. This is really trading an F student for like a C minus student I think is the fairest way to put it. Here is what Sliwa has to say about first of all, Bill Ackman, a billionaire activist centrist guy. I wouldn't say he's right wing here. He is. Well Sliwa's saying he that guy needs to go take a long walk off a short pier. Place seven.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Well, number one, Ackman is a jerk. Has he been right yet? Here's a guy who goes up to Newport, Rhode island and thinks he's a professional tennis player. Come on Ackman, stay in your lane. Does he know anything about politics?

[Clay Travis]

No.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Does he live in New York City?

[Clay Travis]

No.

[Curtis Sliwa]

He lives in Tropica, the whitest suburb of America, where even the lawn jockeys are white. He may know Wall street. He may know hedge funds. He has Been wrong every step of the way with the billionaires. So let's say people come to the conclusion, if somehow I lose and we know Andrew Cuomo's lost, he's already tossed into town. Oh, it's because of you, Curtis. Because it really. It's because of the Democrats.

[Clay Travis]

Wait a second.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Who created Zohan Mandami? Who embraced him? Who nourished him? Who supported him?

[Clay Travis]

Clay, he is not, he is not buying into the argument you have been making, among many others, for the necessity of his dropout. He's saying, look, it's all the Democrats fault. I'm staying in it to win it.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't. He's not wrong about it being all the Democrats fault. What he is wrong about is if he stays in it, all he's doing is guaranteeing Momdani is going to be elected the next mayor of New York city here in 13 days. And I have made the argument, I really do believe this, that Mamdani winning is simultaneously the worst thing that could happen to New York City and the best thing that could happen to the rest of the country. Because it makes Mamdani and AOC the face of the Democrat Party socialist communist in New York City. And New York City, as nice of a place as it is, does not play well in all of the battleground states. The places where control of the Senate is going to be determined and the places where control of the House is going to be determined. So with that in mind, there is an argument that Curtis Lee was actually doing what is best for the Republican Party by refusing to drop out. I don't think there's any argument at all that he's doing what is best for New York City because his continued involvement in this race, his continued staying in this race, ensures that Mom Donnie is going to be elected the next mayor of New York City. And then it becomes a case buck of you just have to hope that Mom Donnie is so incompetent that he isn't able to implement the things that he has promised he is going to be implementing.

[Clay Travis]

This is my silver. This is my silver lining.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the only silver lining is that he's so.

[Clay Travis]

Unfortunately, I think Eric Adams had a similar but different problem in that he had some good ideas on public safety but lacked the bureaucratic skills to implement them. Mamdani, It's a different problem. The what he wants to do is bad, but he may be incapable of doing it. Here we have Curtis Lewa continuing on this is hat tip Nate Friedman podcast. I've never heard of Nate. But here, this is from his podcast. But here's Curtis Sliwa making his case. Clay, that this idea that all the Cuomo people, rather that his people will just vote Cuomo is also detached from what he sees as reality play 8.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And how dare you people who know nothing about politics suggest that everybody who's going to vote for me is suddenly going to be reborn. We love Andrew Cuomo. He killed all these elderlies that sexual harassment. He told conservatives and Republicans in 2014, if you're a conservative and you believe in right to life and the second amendment, you have no place in New York. You need to leave. This is the result of the Democrats self destruction. So I'm supposed to help them? How come they don't help themselves?

[Clay Travis]

Clay, what do you make of that?

[Buck Sexton]

Again, I don't disagree with anything that he's arguing. The question is, is Cuomo likely to be better for New York City, as awful as he has been in the past, than Mom? Donnie? I think the answer is yes. Do I think that Republicans should have to save Democrats from the consequences of their own choices? No, I don't. And again, this is where I come back and I understand we got a lot of WR listeners. This is where I come back to. It can simultaneously be the best and worst thing for the Republican Party for Mamdani to win. I think it's the worst thing for anyone who is sane in New York City. I think it's arguably the best thing that could happen for anyone who is sane in the country. And this is why I've said sometimes you just got to let the island go under the water. Best case scenario. To your point, Buck, he's so incompetent that he can't actually change anything or implement any of his ideas. Worst case scenario, he does. And New York City really as one of the crown jewels of America starts to reflect some of the same issues that we have seen happen in many of the top capitals across the west, which is all of the choices they're making are finally starting to catch up with them. Whether it's London, whether it's Paris, you name the big western civilization capitals. I think they're making increasingly left wing choices that are bad for the overall populations there.

[Clay Travis]

Part of the problem is that leftists have a much higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a lot of the sane people us realize, right? San Francisco should have known 20 years ago. Hey, what are you doing? You're ruining a great American city. Now it seems they finally have a more sane Mayor finally. But it took way too long. I worry that something like that'll happen in New York. But here, just for one last bit of the argument, Clay, here's Curtis Sliwa telling Andrew Cuomo that it's on him to go out and Convert Sliwa voters. Play 9.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Andrew Cuomo failed everybody in that primary. He even admitted it. Now he's basically saying, I can't win without Sliwa votes. Where are your votes? Why don't you spend your money? And they got millions from the billionaires. Millions go out. Get your own votes, convert Sliwa voters. But for me to drop out, I represent a major party line. I have people running under me, council people, judges. They put their heart and soul into it. They support me. I have more donations than Andrew Cuomo does. Matching funds. So you know something? This is called voting. Since when do we not let people vote? Billionaires determine the next mayor. If they don't like it, they can leave. They have options. Blue collar, working class people don't. Those are the people I'm representing, not Andrew Cuomo.

[Clay Travis]

Clay, his best argument, I think is actually what he said about the down ticket on the Republican side, or rather the one that we hadn't really discussed here. And I do think there's merit to that. But he's also going to make sure that Mom Donnie wins this election. That's the problem.

[Buck Sexton]

A part of me makes me think he spends so much time attacking Cuomo. Has Mom Donnie promised him some sort of job? It sounds crazy, but is there something.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think.

[Buck Sexton]

Is there something that Curtis Sliwa wants in terms. And I don't even think it would be bad politics from mom Donnie. Why otherwise why would you stay in? It then becomes almost entirely a vanity project. Maybe he hates personally Andrew Cuomo. Maybe they've had a relation ship in the past. That is a lot of people do.

[Clay Travis]

Just a lot of people really personally dislike Andrew Cuomo.

[Buck Sexton]

So he may not personally dislike mom Donnie. And this may be personal on Curtis Lee was behalf. But again, in 13 days, the data is going to be out there and I think you can look at it and we'll see whether Mamdani wins a majority of this trio or does the do the numbers reflect that if there had been a 1v1, Momdani would have lost? Because right now, as we're speaking to all of you, Mamdani keeps setting new highs. Buck in the likelihood of being able to be the nominee and to win this race. And so long as that continues, I think that we're in a really, really tough spot for the city of New York. Now positive is there does seem to be some good momentum for Citarelli on the Jersey race and certainly Jason Miarez and win some Sears I think have made up some ground in the state of Virginia as that race is going. But right now you have a 93% chance in all of the sort of prediction markets that Mamdani is going to win. And if you think SLI was going to win because we get these calls every time you can 100 times your money in 13 days. So this would be one of the most epic upsets in the history of upsets. All of you should go vote. Don't listen to us. Make your voice heard. But I think the voices of New York are unfortunately going to be heard and they're going to be putting a communist into office. Last night I had the great honor of emceeing the Tunnel of the Towers charity golf event honoring America's heroes and their families. Great night. Stories about the people that this organization has helped. The men and women who defend our freedoms were incredible people who stood up and told their stories. Last night I got to meet all of them. They did a fantastic job telling their story. And since its founding in 2001, Tunnel the Towers has done all they can to help families that have lost their hero in the line of duty. Frank Siller was there, raising millions of dollars more to help make a difference. Your generosity has provided mortgage free homes to thousands of families worried about the roofs over their head. The same generosity has helped severely injured combat veterans return home to live in smart homes and adapted to their needs. The stories are as remarkable as your generosity. Tunnel the Towers foundation makes this pledge we'll never forget. So many of us echo the same sentiment. More heroes waiting and in need of assistance. Honor their sacrifices now and join us in donating $11 a month to tunnel the towers at t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org saving America One thought at a time. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the diehard radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Buck Sexton]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Clay Travis]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Buck Sexton]

Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

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Yeah, that's right.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We have got 13 days until the New York City mayor's race, until the governor's race in New Jersey until the governor's race in Virginia. And I woke up this morning as one of the few people who still buys print newspapers. And I'm in New York City, still flying back home tonight. And the front page of the New York Post, Buck, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, says, just walk away beret. Even allies tell Sliwa to drop mayor bid. Don't let Zoran win. And you know, you grew up in New York City. The tabloids don't have the same impact necessarily that they used to do back in the day. But as the conservative leaning tabloid, when the Post puts the Republican mayor nominee on the front page of the paper and says basically making fun of him, get out of this race. You have no chance of winning. Um, the pressure on, on Sliwa to drop out continues to rise. You grew up in New York City, Buck. Do you think there's any way Curtis Lewa drops out or do you think at this point, 13 days out, it doesn't matter because early voting starts, I think in a few days. If he's not going to drop out in the next couple of days, it's over.

[Clay Travis]

I don't see him dropping out at all. And I see, I see Zoran Mamdani as the next mayor of New York. I'm just basing this on the polls and all of the. Now can we also just. People say, what about the polls with Trump, polls can be wrong within three or four points. And in a presidential election that makes all the difference. It's very rare for every single pollster to be wrong by 30 points.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, there's a difference.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, that. Just, just to get this, because I'm seeing you guys are anointing. Mom, I'm not anointing anything. I'm the one who thinks it's insane that Mamdani could become the mayor of New York. I'm the one who wants to stop, do whatever we can through this election process to make him not the mayor. But unfortunately the numbers are the numbers. You're Talking about an 8 to 1 Democrat to Republican city and no variation of the numbers coming even close to a Cuomo win. Even if rather with Curtis Lewis staying in, there's no variation that I've seen that does that. My. The thing that makes me pretty sanguine about it all, Clay, not as sanguine as you, sir, but sanguine about it all is I don't think Cuomo would be good. Yeah, I. Maybe not insane is not the same thing as good.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he'd be a very bad.

[Clay Travis]

Mayor in Some respects. People keep talking about the COVID thing. He was the no bail, no jail guy. It was Andrew Cuomo who was like, you know what, let's let that maniac out who just punched the old lady on the subway. Let's let him out even though it's the 50th time he's been arrested. Nope, no bail. That's the Cuomo routine.

[Buck Sexton]

This is where blue cities leave themselves with no real option. Andrew Cuomo, who was one of the worst governors during COVID is now the savior supposedly of New York City. Which is why shining light in a dark room potentially 13 days from now. I think it's going to help Elise Stefanik in the governor's race and I think it's going to help in the midterms for both the House and the Senate. Look, if you're trying to save some money this holiday season, take advantage of Pure Talk cell phone service pricing. Without a doubt, it's the best value in the wireless biz. The average sized family of four can save over $1,000 a year when they switch from big wireless companies to PureTalk. Because PureTalk gives you unlimited talk text, plenty of Data for just 25 bucks a month on their lightning fast 5G network. Plus right now, they'll take an additional 50% off your first month. That's immediate savings you can take immediate action on. And if you make the switch right now, you can save an additional 50% off in the first month. Here's how you switch. You can keep your same phone number and your same phone. Just say £2. Just dial £250, say Clay and Buck. That's £250, say Clay and Buck. And you can save up to $1,000. £2 50 say Clay and Buck. People ask us all the time how we can save the next generation.

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We've got our show and the info is an antidote. But we also have a couple books coming out.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay. That's right. And you can pre order both of them right now and be book nerds just like us.

[Clay Travis]

You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too.

[Buck Sexton]

Mine's called Balls How Trump, Young Men and Sports Saved America.

[Clay Travis]

And mine is Manufacturing Delusion how the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination and Propaganda against you.

[Buck Sexton]

Both are great reads. One might even say they would make fabulous gifts.

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

Indeed.

[Clay Travis]

So do us a solid and preorder yours on Amazon today.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are going to be in Indiana tomorrow as we span the globe Span the country.

[Clay Travis]

Fort Wayne, baby. Fort Wayne here we come.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. So we are looking forward to seeing many of you at Whoa's 100 Year Celebration. That's a pretty impressive thing. So we're going to be in Fort Wayne, Indiana tomorrow. We're going to be meeting a lot of you in that area. We look forward to that event. And if you are listening to us in that region, well, maybe you will see us as we are rolling through. All right, Buck, you mentioned it. You leave me and you have no idea what might come on. I thought I was making the least controversial argument that's ever taken place. Let me reiterate what happened. This Chicago area teacher. I'm sure you saw the video, Buck. As the no Kings protests were going on, a Trump affiliated car is driving by to Turning Point usa. Driving by. And this elementary school teacher celebrates by putting her hand to her throat as if she is. She's mimicking the Charlie Kirk assassination.

[Clay Travis]

Disgusting.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, really.

[Clay Travis]

And psychotic disgusting stuff.

[Buck Sexton]

And I said as a part of the argument that, look, I'm a free speech guy, but there is a morality component to being an elementary school teacher and you can be fired for violating that morality component. And as an example, as an example, I said, for instance, I think most people would not want their kid's elementary school teacher to be a stripper. And I can't believe it. But we have been, we have been deluged by people that actually disagreed with me. So here we have a wide variety. Some of them are very funny. But I thought we could play some of these, some of these talkbacks. And Brandon, I also said, by the way, that there's a middle ground, right? Where if you worked as a waiter or waitress at Applebee's, I think that you could clearly probably have both jobs, right? A lot of teachers have multiple jobs. Maybe you work in the summer when you're out of school. And I said, but Hooters might be a more of a middle ground, right? Like where people could agree or disagree. Brandon in Michigan says he'd go to a lot more school activities if his kids teacher also worked at Hooters. This is BB Brandon weighing in. Travis. I'm just going to say if my.

[Clay Travis]

Kids teacher worked at Hooters, I'd probably.

[Buck Sexton]

Be a lot more interested in going.

[Clay Travis]

To conferences and going to school activities.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, thank you, Brandon. And then Ken in California, he's fired up at me. I'm the, my opinion that you can't be a stripper in an elementary school teacher. He's mad. He says hey, Clay. You're wrong, cc.

[NFL Network Analyst]

You know, you can't be for the First Amendment and boobs and give this teacher criticism over her First Amendment right for expression. Yes, it's abhorrent. Yes, it's tacky. Yes, it's despicable. Hate speech has still got to be protected speech whether we like it or not. And I don't like it. But she did it. And it's not against the law.

[Clay Travis]

I'm gone for one hour. I know you have the keys to the car solo. And our entire inbox today is about boobs.

[Buck Sexton]

But, I mean, I am of the opinion. I said this on the show. I think, Buck, you would sign off. Like if we employed someone on the Clay and Buck show that celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination. I believe in the First Amendment. The First Amendment doesn't mean that there aren't consequences for your behavior. And if you are a public school teacher, elementary school. I don't think you should be teaching kids. If you are going around publicly celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's my opinion. I wouldn't want to my third grader. I wouldn't want to walk in there and know that she had been at a no Kings protest. Doing celebratory gestures having to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. Because that would influence her teaching.

[Clay Travis]

To all the people who are saying this about that teacher, for example, these are. It's always situational with leftists. They want what they want, how they want it when they want it. There's no principle. There's no rule that we can all be held to. And I just give you this.

[Buck Sexton]

If.

[Clay Travis]

If Jimmy Kimmel or if this teacher had. Had been shouting a racial slur, a racial slur that you're never allowed to say, Would we be hearing about free speech arguments? Would. Would they be saying, oh, but you know, it's free speech. You're. You're allowed to say that. No, you're not. Right. So where is the line here? The line is what is abhorrent to the people that you are either serving in the case of a teacher, the community you're serving, or to a very unfunny late night talk show host who's representing a broader corporate brand. And this is true of anybody, I might add. You don't make. You don't get to make a free speech argument. If you walked into Initech while you're working for Lumberg. And you told Lumberg what you really think of him when he's like, would you come in and work on Saturday? Great Movie, and you started great movie, and you started just dropping all kinds of curse words and telling him what you really think of him and his stupid suspenders and the whole thing, and he fired you. You don't have a First Amendment argument. I just feel like people intentionally confuse this thing now where you are entitled. If you are advancing leftist ideology in some capacity, the First Amendment means you have an ironclad right to not be fired from your job or have there be any consequences for it. Then people say, well, what about when the cancel culture stuff, the cancel culture stuff was unreasonable and irrational firing of people for saying entirely valid and normal and things that half the country agrees with?

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And look again, I think that public school, elementary school teachers, which are being funded by all of our taxpayers, I don't think it's too high of a standard of behavior to expect that you're not going to be in public celebrating a public assassination of a figure. And so I think if you did that and Rachel Maddow had gotten shot and you were a super right winger, which I don't think people would even really celebrate it. The consequence, on the same side, you shouldn't be celebrating political assassinations and making a living teaching young kids. I don't think that's a crazy.

[Clay Travis]

Anybody who's defending anybody who is, I don't mean anyone who is defending this particular teacher who made this, this abhorrent gesture. If, if, if that teacher had walked, you know, if that teacher was walking the streets with a, you know, George Floyd got what he deserved. He was a convicted felon, drug addict, you know, written on her teacher, would any of them be making the case that, you know, that's okay, free speech? No, they would not. Yes, they would all be saying, oh, but it's the racism and, and the bad things, and they can't be corrupting the mind of the youth and all this other stuff that. So this is why I found the Jimmy Kimmel argument, which ties into this too, just absurd on its face. It's like he said something that pissed off a lot of people. He doesn't have a First Amendment right to keep that job that he has forever. There are a million things. Not only do we have FCC regulations here on radio, there are a million things that if either of us said, we get into a lot of trouble.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Really, it's, you know, have you betrayed your audience, Right. Or have you betrayed a large enough portion of your audience with what you've said or outraged them with what you've said that you cease to be able to function as somebody who they can trust and who is still a viable show. Well, I mean, this is the real. What was happening on the other side and the cancel Culture wars was people were. Were creating a fiction that there was outrage at somebody. This happened to Rush. Outrage at somebody for something that was said, and then there were actions taken based on the lie that this was actually so outrageous.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, look, I think if you went back in time and you were looking at the Jimmy Kimmel thing, the FCC weighing in, I think actually made it a bigger story than it would have been if nobody had weighed in at all on the government level. Because then they said, oh, well, this is government pressure and coercion. Look, the reality is he missed four days and now he's back on the air, and there is virtually no discussion about this. But if.

[Clay Travis]

But that also tells you there was no real fear of government coercion because they wouldn't have just put him on the air a few days later. So that was a pretext.

[Buck Sexton]

The whole thing was. Again, that's why I said if you didn't say anything about Roseanne or Gina Carano when they were canceled at Disney, which almost no one did, we talked about that quite a lot. Then I don't understand how you decide that Jimmy Kimmel is the line in the sand that you will draw. I mean, the ACLU getting involved and everybody else. But yes, your bigger picture point is an important one. The government restricting your speech is what you should be concerned about. That's actually what Alex Berenson's lawsuit, which I think is still pending, is about, because that's what Joe Biden did. Joe Biden went to Facebook and he went to Twitter and He went to YouTube and they threatened. They said, if you don't take down these posts that we don't like relating to Covid, there's going to be a punishment. And now everybody suddenly is circling around and saying what you and I said for a long time. Which brings me to cut 28. You remember Buck in New York City when Kyrie Irving refused to get the COVID shot in Brooklyn? And they wouldn't allow him to play in the games, but they would allow him to sit in the crowd courtside. Do you remember that absurdity of COVID They wouldn't let him play in the game, but they would allow him to sit on the court and watch the games. That was the line that they were drawing at that point in time.

[Clay Travis]

I remember being in line for the Columbus Circle, New York City Whole Foods peak pandemic time and they were enforcing with. With Prussian efficiency, six feet of distancing between people standing in the line.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

And then you got into the place, you got into the Whole Foods, and it was absolutely mobbed with people like, shoulder to shoulder in all the aisles and everything. You know, unlimited time to shop, do whatever you want to do. So outside, where you actually cannot spread.

[Buck Sexton]

The virus in open air.

[Clay Travis]

In open air, six feet of distancing inside, shoulder to shoulder with worthless masks on. And, you know, this is all you need to know about. Somebody is a public figure, as a leader, as a commentator. How were they during COVID It was the stress test in all these respects. Which just brings me full circle to Cuomo. He was awful. He was as bad as Gavin Newsom. He was as bad as Gretchen Whitmer.

[Buck Sexton]

He was absolutely terrible.

[Clay Travis]

In fact, I think you could argue he was the worst because he really set the tone of panic and authoritarianism alongside it that then all these other states followed because New York got hit first.

[Buck Sexton]

And here to close out, to tie in all of this, as the story has altered, Stephen A. Smith, ESPN's most prominent employee, now says, hey, Kyrie Irving was right. He should have never taken the COVID shot. And they came after Kyrie Irving. They came after Aaron Rodgers. They came after everybody who was in athletics that refused. And I do give a little bit of credit to Stephen A. Because he's now pointing out that that Kyrie was right, whereas most people out there are still saying nothing at all. Cut 28.

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

Kyrie's a good brother. We used to butt heads because he missed work too damn much. And I'm like, yo, man, this brother's electrifying. I want to see this brother dancing on a basketball court. I want to hear no about no COVID vaccine. Get your ass on the court. I didn't see you. Now, obviously, in hindsight, the brother, right? Because we see all the conspiracy theories that come out. And props to him for look, for seeing, for having the foresight to see that. We didn't see that at the time. And then. But you also, I have to understand, I'm living in a world where you got cats making 38, 40, 45 million. You got GMs and owners complaining about it, and you got billionaires looking me in the face and saying, yo, Stephen A. I took that damn vaccine. Who the hell are they not to take the vaccine? And we're living in a country where the government was imposing all of that on us. So I'm sitting there going like this. We all taking the Risk. Kyrie said no props to him, but I didn't view it that way.

[Buck Sexton]

So he was right. Most people won't even acknowledge that Kyrie Irving and Aaron Rodgers and other prominent athletes who said I'm not going to get the COVID shot were in fact correct. But it's just one of very many things that, to your point, Andrew Cuomo, who is now supposed to be the savior of New York, was 1 billion percent wrong on.

[Clay Travis]

He was terrible. This is why I can't get that energized about the anything to defeat. I think Sliwa probably feels this way too. I haven't heard him say this, but we're supposed to go and break out, you know, and break the glass, do anything we can so that Andrew Cuomo can be the mayor.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, he's horrible. Yes, I get it. I think he. I think he hates Cuomo. By the way, we are right here I am in the New York City studio with our team and producer Ally is wearing her cozy Earth cashmere sweater because she says that we keep it too cold in the studio. Here I stay. I got to be honest. We have these cozy Earth bamboo sheets. I don't know if you have them on your beds yet, Buck. They're unbelievable.

[Clay Travis]

They are so we got them on the baby crib too.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

News you can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?

[Clay Travis]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Buck Sexton]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith Political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Clay Travis]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Buck Sexton]

Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Clay Travis]

Leon.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Clay Travis]

We also have Trump just speaking a few moments ago. As you know, there's a. And the team pointed this out to me. Privately funded renovation. Really? A remodel, a demo and remodel of the East Wing of the White House to accommodate a ballroom that is, some people are saying, gonna be the most fabulous ballroom of all ballrooms. It's gonna be spectacular. I'm sure. And this is President Trump speaking about the West Wing's history and. And more. Play 30.

[NFL Network Analyst]

This is, as you see over here, the Presidential Walk of Fame. And we had this long wall with half windows because that used to be a swimming pool. On the other side of the wall, that was the swimming pool where Jackie would say, I hear women inside. Are women inside? Quite a famous. I'm not saying anything. This was a part of a movie. And the Secret Service said, no, ma', am, there's no women in sight, ma'.

[Clay Travis]

Am.

[NFL Network Analyst]

I'm sorry, ma', am, you're going to have to move along. But I hear women inside. No, ma', am. You'll have to move along, ma'. Am. So that was the famous swimming pool. Now it's even worse. It's for the media. They covered the pool up, they covered the pull up, and now it's for the media. And I think we have a small representative group. I don't think they allowed the rest of them. I don't. I can't believe it. What happened? They're all on the other side of the wall. Can you believe it?

[Buck Sexton]

That is one hell.

[Clay Travis]

So the story.

[Buck Sexton]

Should I tell the story that Trump is telling? I guess I have to tell the story that Trump is telling, Buck. That I think you do. These angry emails are Buck Sexton's fault. So word is from the White House historian crew that back in the day, jfk, as soon as Jackie Kennedy would leave the White House, would roll in girls and they would have naked swimming parties in the White House swimming pool. So if you think Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was scandalous. What Trump is referencing is that they would have skinny dipping sessions when JFK was president with girls that they would, they would bring in. So that pool's now covered up and it's where the press goes. But that is a accurate, so far as I have heard, historical rendition that Trump was referencing there. Probably did not expect that that would be the opening of the third hour, but that is what I was talking about.

[Clay Travis]

JFK and Camelot and all that stuff is a pure. The same way that, that they went with Biden doesn't have dementia. It was a pure fabrication of the Democrat aligned media and not just then, but a continuation perpetuation because it created this Kennedy dynasty, so called dynasty that led to someone like Ted Kennedy who let a woman drown in the back of his car. Right?

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

These are the kind of people that the Kennedys brought us in politics. And isn't there a. Wasn't there like the red haired guy who was going to be the, you know, the great hope of the Kennedys and he gave some like sweaty face speech after the, you know what I'm talking about. There was a young Kennedy, another a member of Congress. He was going to.

[Buck Sexton]

Patrick.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, that sounds right.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Basically they're a Democrat brand and they're protected as such. But if you actually look at the conduct of JFK in the Oval Office, in the White House and as a person, he was also a very sickly guy. Needed a whole bunch of different controlled substances to get through the day. This idea that he was this strapping, handsome, you know, all American guy and all this is all. I'm just saying it's all a fabrication.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

This is all stuff that was fed to people because there was no, you know, it's different. You didn't have the constant media cycle. You didn't have so many people that have not just access but are able to use their own methods of, of capturing information. You know, everyone walks around. Now think about it this way. When Kennedy was actually President Clay, the press had a fraction of the access and the ability to create content that every single one of our listeners right now does.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. I mean, no, the evolution, I mean, look, and it wasn't just Kennedy. Right. They pretended that FDR was not in a wheelchair. I mean that that's maybe one of the most staggering complicit related media aspects. They pretended that FDR wasn't actually needing to be pushed around in a wheelchair because, because the press was asked to do so.

[Clay Travis]

And well, they also got away with, with Woodrow Wilson's wife running the White House.

[Buck Sexton]

Edith was basically the president of the United States because he had such a bad stroke.

[Clay Travis]

I also think that, that we didn't talk about it that much. I think that same dynamic factored in with Dr. I love that we all call her doctor and just, just, gosh, Dr. Jill Biden. I think she recognized that her frail husband meant that she was in a more powerful role than a first lady certainly could or should be, generally. So that was a pirate. But let's get back to Trump here. What he just said about this or what he was just saying. He spoke about the, the shutdown. All along. There has been the things that the shutdown has made possible as part of what the White House can do. It's a great refutation of the no Kings rally, I might add. Right. The government is shut down. The king can't just open the government. Well, because he's not a king, as we all know. It's such a stupid rally, a stupid name. It's just not good. But back to what Trump is saying about the shutdown. He talked about Russ Vaught, and here is what he says about this individual and his cutting and the prioritization underway. Play 32.

[NFL Network Analyst]

I will say this, that we have Darth Vader. You know Darth Vader, right? Darth Vader is a man who I think is sitting right. Is that Darth, stand up, please. Darth Vader, stand up. Does everybody know this is. They call him Darth Vader. I call him a fine man, but he's cutting Democrat priorities and they're never going to get him back. And they've caused us and they've really allowed us to do it. And by the way, thank you. You're doing a great job, I have to tell you. So. Really a great job, because many of the things that they're cutting, like the New York project, $20 billion was cutting it. They're not going to get it back. I mean, they're not going to get a lot of things back. They may not get it back. Maybe we'll talk to them about it. But they're losing the things that they wanted. But many of the things that they wanted are things that we don't want, the things that are just so bad for our country. And we're cutting those things out.

[Clay Travis]

Clay, Russ Vaught is the head of omb, Office of Management and Budget, and they're able to get in there with a scalpel and cut some of these government programs because of the shutdown. So another, another component of this not.

[Buck Sexton]

Only that, it is just not registering in any way that the government shutdown's still going on. I understand that some of you out there are going to have to get back pay if you're in military. Trump is saying that he wants to make sure that everybody gets paid again. They're going to have a press availability for the Republican senators that are all at the White House right now. And we're scheduled to talk with Marsha Blackburn at the bottom of the hour. So we'll hear what President Trump said. But I just think that they are in such incredible difficulty here because they didn't want to shut down. They didn't want to bend the knee before the government protests, before the no Kings protest. And now a part of me thinks, Buck, that they may think this is advantageous for them on some small level in Virginia and New Jersey and two close governor's races. Maybe it motivates a little bit turnout, I don't know. But I think the idea that there was going to be some mass rallying effect to the Democrat side has certainly not been reflected in the polls and it hasn't been reflected in the reactions by and large, as most people have just kind of said, yeah, there's not a lot to this.

[Clay Travis]

Well, here is, since we're talking about the shutdown a little bit, the, the latest explanation of this that we get from Chuck Schumer, who is really, it is the Schumer shutdown. I mean, this guy more than any other is responsible for where this is. This is cut 12. Hit it.

[Curtis Sliwa]

We enter another week of Donald Trump's.

[Clay Travis]

Government shutdown and Republicans seem happy not.

[Curtis Sliwa]

To work, happy not to negotiate, happy to let healthcare premiums Spike for over 20 million working and middle class American Americans. Our country is staring down the barrel.

[Clay Travis]

Of a health care catastrophe.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And Republicans will spend this week either vacationing or holding pep rallies at the White House. It's been over a month since the House of Representatives even took a single roll call vote. That's shameful.

[Clay Travis]

That's derelict. Government workers must work without getting paid.

[Curtis Sliwa]

House Republicans get paid without working.

[Clay Travis]

And yet it's the Schumer shutdown. He can say whatever he wants about it. Clay, I don't think that's going to work. I also think that the more they talk about health care. Hold on a second. Obamacare was supposed to make everything cheaper. Why do we have to shovel billions and billions of dollars into Obamacare to make it even temporarily seem solvent?

[Buck Sexton]

All of us are paying way more than we were told we would ever have. To pay for health care to a large extent because Obamacare has failed. And this idea that your insurance was going to be cheaper or you were going to have more flexibility when it came to your doctors, it has been proven to be, I think, a complete and total lie. And so everybody out there who is dealing and I think it's all of us when you have to go to the doctor and you get back your bill and you say how in the world could it possibly have cost this much or how can my insurance premiums have risen to the level that they have? Obamacare has actually made, as many people argued that would be the case, everything more expensive and worse than it would be if we had never fiddled with it at all. And in fact kind of ties in with this. I can't believe I'm going to give him credit here. What John Stewart said about Bernie Sanders, the Democrat solution is always subsidies. And when the government causes endless funds to be spent, Jon Stewart's actually making sense here. Prices rise. This was cut 15.

[Clay Travis]

The democratic solutions have never been to directly provide.

[NFL Network Analyst]

It's always been a subsidy.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely right.

[NFL Network Analyst]

But what happens is when the government.

[Clay Travis]

Promises endless funds to insurance companies or private universities without any cost controls and Trump seems to understand this, prices rise far beyond the rate of inflation. And we've seen it in tuition and we've seen it in pharmaceutical and we've seen it in health care.

[NFL Network Analyst]

So my question is will Democrats recognize.

[Clay Travis]

The poison pill that they've often placed.

[NFL Network Analyst]

Into well intentioned policy?

[Buck Sexton]

They don't understand basic economics. And I think to Jon Stewart's credit, he's elucidating that Democrats don't understand market based policies and get all of their prescriptions wrong, which ends up costing us all more.

[Clay Travis]

Let's play the Bernie response to that on the other side of this. You could have Bernie Sanders. It's going to be like but the more we spend comes from the millionaires and the billionaires, it's going to be something like that. There's going to be some nonsense.

[Buck Sexton]

I like your argument. I think that is likely to be proven true.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

That never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

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