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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast coming.
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Buck Sexton
To you live from. Whoa. Whoa. Here in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Very excited to be hanging out with the Whoa.
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Clay Travis
Whoa.
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Buck Sexton
Fam today. So we'll be seeing a lot of you who are. Who are listeners to this great Heritage radio station. 100 years. 100 years. Pretty amazing. Some people are saying. Amazing 100 years. Not quite the 250 that America will be celebrating. But 100 years is a great milestone and we are looking forward to. To seeing many of you in this area. It is my third time to Fort Wayne, Indiana. How many guys who grew up in Manhattan have gone on three separate joyous adventures to Fort Wayne, Indiana? I think I'm in. I think I'm in pretty elite company there, Mr. Clay. So, you know, I'm kind of old hat here at all things, for I have been here.
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Clay Travis
Although you were telling me somebody's upset at me for calling me a liar. What's the late. What's the, that I was called a liar on social media by this person.
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Buck Sexton
One of our, one of our esteemed listeners writes, yesterday Clay said he was flying home from New York City. Yet today he continues saying he's in Indiana. Guy's a fraud. Or, or Clay got up early, as I did to go to this thing called the airport and come here. Another possibility I'm throwing out there. You were in Nashville last night.
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Clay Travis
Of all the accusations to be levied against me, saying that I'm a frau. Did, full disclosure, fly from New York City to Nashville late last night, slept at home, and then got up early this morning and flew to Indiana. So if you need, if you need direct evidence, I'm sure there's lots of people who saw me at the airport that can confirm that I did in fact travel from New York City to Nashville back to Indiana.
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Buck Sexton
I've reached a point where I almost could tell, like if you, if you just put me on a plane and you didn't tell me where I was going, but just based on the friendliness of some of the passengers to me on the flight, I can, I know if we're going to a red state or a blue state for the most part. You know what I mean? Like when I'm going to someone, when I'm flying into Nashville, someone always is like, and you, the people are usually pretty, pretty chill about it, pretty low key, like, hey man, love, you know, love the show as they walk past, you know, as they're, or you know, as they're walking next to me in line to get on the plane. But when I'm going to LA or New York, very large cities, not always the kid, not always as likely. Not always as likely. It depends, you know, but if I'm, if I'm heading to, to Tennessee or, or, or Texas or any, any very solid red part of the country, we tend to come across our wonderful listeners. And I'm always very thankful when they come over and say hi and all that.
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Clay Travis
It is fantastic. I will say every time I fly to or from New York City, the number of people still wearing masks on the airplane, I, I, it blows my mind. You live in Miami now. You probably don't see it that often now, ever.
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Buck Sexton
It's not, it's very rare. Do I see it? Certainly not in like the day to day life and the airports, you'll see a couple of people, but it's in, in Nashville, in la, I saw a lot because I stopped in LA before I went to Taiwan. There were A fair number of masks in that airport.
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Clay Travis
Well, I mean, I think that's an Asian thing for a long time, right?
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Buck Sexton
Taiwan. I'm talking about la.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
In Los Angeles. No, there's a lot of masks in Taiw. One of my only gripes with the entire process, but they've been do they do it for generations. It's more of a. Yeah, they've been doing it since way before COVID And it's viewed almost more as like a politeness thing if you have a cold, I think. And so I give a pass also. I just, the Taiwanese people are so lovely that I just, I just give them a pass on this in general. But there's. You will see a lot of masks in East Asia for sure. That's a real thing. But that's not a Covid specific thing. That predated.
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Clay Travis
This is all Covid specific still. I was kind of blown away on my flight last night from New York City to Nashville. Okay. We have invited. I think we got asked about this a lot. Producer Ali tells me that we have invited Andrew Cuomo three different times on the show. Cuomo will not come on, I think Buck, because I said, I'm going to be honest, a lot of awful things, all true about Andrew Cuomo during COVID And I know you did.
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Buck Sexton
Maybe I could interview him. Him as himself. Be like, excuse me, sir, why did you put all of the elderly with COVID in nursing homes at the worst possible time? Please answer this question for me. We could see where he goes and.
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Clay Travis
I bet that is one reason that he will not come on. Although my argument would be he should be trying to talk to everybody because he's losing and the race is 13 days away.
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Buck Sexton
Now, if he's scared of us, by the way, what else? What does that tell you?
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Clay Travis
Well, I mean, look, we would push.
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Buck Sexton
Him hard on some things. I'm actually, the COVID thing I wouldn't waste that much time on if we had him on. Just because that's not an issue for New York right now. I do want to hold them accountable. I would ask him about it. But, you know, we're not going to turn it into like a Covid fest because I just want old ladies not to be, you know, smashed on the head with hammers by maniacs in the subway and not scare away business and not have the streets filthy. Like, I would just want New York to be well governed and that's what matters right now.
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Clay Travis
Actually, I am curious if Cuomo would tell us, I think that Joe Biden ordered The hit on Cuomo, like the Biden White House, because I think Cuomo would have potentially run against Joe Biden in the primary in 2024.
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Buck Sexton
Under discussed stories is how much of the lawfare against Trump was directly coordinated with the Biden White House. The Biden, not just the Biden doj, of course, which is running it. The Biden White House itself, everybody, it was, it was all being run through command central. And Biden wanted Trump to go to prison. He actually wanted his opponen to go to prison.
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Clay Travis
And I think he wanted Cuomo done in New York. I think if Biden had wanted to stop that sexual harassment investigation, I mean.
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Buck Sexton
Look, they definitely look what they did to this White House. I'm sorry, previous White House, this Biden White house, man, they fought 30. The Eric Adams thing that could not have been more clear. You're going to bring federal corruption charges against a mayor for airlines upgrades, upgrades.
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Clay Travis
And calling to try and get fire department approval on fire.
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Buck Sexton
You know, like some people didn't see this and they were getting mad. I was like, why are you guys standing up for a Democrat? It's just about standing up for what's right and what's reasonable. The reason they were giving Eric Adams the Code Red was because he was a very important piece early on of telling the real story about illegal waves of migration into American cities that Biden wanted, that Biden's team supported and how it was really cost intensive and bad for those cities. He broke with the consensus on that one and it mattered.
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Clay Travis
And every investigation started. Yes, as soon as he went public and said we're spending way too much money on illegals. They're taking over hotels. And again, I think that Biden ordered the Code Red through his Department of Justice on Eric Adams and on Cuomo because he saw him as threatened.
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Buck Sexton
Whenever we say Biden, we mean the, the whole crew in that way is.
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Clay Travis
Is smart enough or brain worked well enough to be managing all of this. But I think he had awful, awful vindictive crew surrounding him. Team Biden. If you read the book Original Sin by Jake Tapper, you will find as I did, that they really did have sort of the Biden mafia that was like a crime family in the way that they held grudges, in the way they went after who they perceived to be enemies.
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Buck Sexton
I gotta tell you man, The Kamala is 170 days as the commologist on this show. Like 170 felt like 107 days when I was reading it. But the whole thing is meant to create Separation from the Biden disaster and elevation for Kamala. And truly reading this book, it fails because at every stage, it's. Everyone else was messing up but me. Everyone else was giving bad advice. Everyone else was making the wrong decision. It is a book of zero accountability for Kamala. And I just think that it comes across too obviously as such for it to be a. Okay, now I'm the. You know, I am separate from this disaster. I didn't just get off one of the lifeboats in the Titanic. I'm actually going to be my own entity now.
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Clay Travis
You know what you would do, why you would write a book like that? Because you're going to run again.
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Buck Sexton
No, she wants to. Yeah, but I'm saying I actually, I am more.
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Clay Travis
With no pun intended, with her.
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Buck Sexton
I am more convinced now that there's going to be a lot of pressure on her not to run. Because remember, every dollar that's given to her is not a dollar given to Gavin Newsom. Every person who gets behind her in that primary, Gavin Newsom, is going to be fighting with her. And if she loses the primary, she's done, done, done, finished. She still has chips to cash in for what I've said all along. And I just can't wait until she's. I'm like some third tier school Clay starts throwing out school names. I'm like, don't. Don't upset our UC audience here with this.
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Clay Travis
I think not. It's going to sound funny. I don't think they will give her Berkeley or ucla. I think UCSB is where she'll end up.
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Buck Sexton
But that's. That's where I think this is. This is all heading for her. Just because the book, it did not, it did not come across as. As what was intended. Also. I mean, she obviously didn't write it. So, I mean, this, it's all. It feels all very stage managed and structured. There's no. Kamala's voice doesn't come across. I look as a commologist, I have to speak honestly about these things. I didn't get a lot of Kamala out of this book. I got a lot of group think, whatever people wanted to write about her that she's hired to try to create the next phase for her. And, and she was a part. You cannot separate yourself as Kamala from the lie, the embarrassing lie of Biden's cognition and Biden's clear deterioration. And this is what, like, look at Clay. Jean Pierre is doing the same thing right now. She's going, oh, I didn't know. I couldn't well, so then you're just telling us you're an idiot. That's not good either. I'm an idiot is not a good answer really to very much of anything. And I'm just a really, really shameless liar. Is also not a good place. They only have two options with this one. So this is why I think the Democrat Party has gotta, gotta go in a, in a different direction on this.
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Clay Travis
News is coming out today. Speaking of Kamala, that the DNC is still getting bills from her campaign and still paying it off. It's one reason the DNC doesn't have money. It isn't talked about enough. Kamala said they didn't hear my message. That's her argument. She spent buck $1.5 billion in 107 days.
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Buck Sexton
How much did they actually pay Megan V. Stallion? Wasn't that, wasn't she the one who performed at one of the.
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Right.
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Buck Sexton
I am up on, on contemporary.
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Clay Travis
Do the math here.
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Buck Sexton
Contemporary hip hop culture. But what, what was the. Wasn't there wasn't there wasn't a Megan the style. Remember the performance that was like, I think it was $10 million they paid or something.
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Clay Travis
Math right now on my calculator and I'm not great at math. So if I got this wrong, you guys can correct me. I think her campaign spent buck. Think about this for a minute. $14 million a day. That's. What is that? $500,000 an hour. Keep in mind, for her entire campaign.
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Buck Sexton
That'S for a candidate who should have as the vice president pretty much universal.
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Clay Travis
Name recognition and also constant media coverage.
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Buck Sexton
Constant media coverage, the ability to move around a lot with government resources. I mean, she already has a Secret Service detail. She already has all these things. So no, she, she was a, a disaster. And look to one of our callers, I think who called in yesterday, it is true that if Cuomo becomes the mayor of New York, I think Cuomo is going to run for president.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, well, look everybody who is a decent. He may run for president even if he doesn't become mayor of New York because what else does he have going on? That's how much Kamala spent every day, every hour.
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Buck Sexton
Every hour.
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Clay Travis
$584,000 an hour for her 107 day campaign. I mean, I don't even understand how you could spend that amount of money. I mean, obviously a lot of television ads. We'll talk about this a bit more. But I do think that as the dnc and one of the consequences is the RNC has way more money right now raised than the DNC because a lot of people feel cheated based on the Kamala campaign and how much they had to spend to try to get her across the finish line. We want you to get across the finish line when it comes to remembering all of your family's memories. That's the pictures. That's the eight millimeter reels. That is the VHS tapes. Whatever you have your family's legacy on, I want you to be able to take advantage of Legacy Box to preserve those memories forever. If you still have photos, film and videos stored away in your home, get them digitally transferred before they disintegrate. These are not made to last forever. That's the entire basis of Legacy Box. And then they have a Legacy Box cloud where they will store it for you where you can access them again and again. You can watch them consistently on your phone, smart TV or laptop. Legacy Box is the perfect company to trust with your precious memories. You'll like everything about them and how simple they will make it. Go online to legacybox.com clay to save 50 off when you preserve your past with Legacy Box the legacy box.com I toured their facility in Chattanooga. Your originals will be preserved forever, but they'll also be easy to share on the cloud on digital files. You can send them from one phone to another. It'll make a tremendous difference in terms of preserving your family's history forever. It's a great gift. Preserve your family's past and their legacy@legacybox.com clay one more time legacybox.com clay.
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Buck Sexton
Fireworks in the fourth quarter.
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Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on. It's Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?
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Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
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Buck Sexton
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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Clay Travis
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
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Buck Sexton
Lock her up.
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Clay Travis
We're talking about all the races going on, as we said, about 13 days out from the official undertaking of the election day in New Jersey and Virginia and in New York City, and we're discussing the decision making of Curtis Lewa. And I said as we went to break, one potential outcome is he actually wants mom Donnie to win and if that is his goal, then he is ensuring that because he thinks Mom Donnie is going to be better than Cuomo. And yester I said, maybe he's got some sort of agreement with Mom Donnie and there is a role that he could play in the Mom Donnie team. And he hasn't talked about it publicly. I, I don't know. I can see why Mom Donnie would not want that out and why Curtis Sliwa would not want that out. That would make some sense logically to me about the choices that he is. He is engaged in. Otherwise, he is just ensuring that Mom Donnie is going to be the nominee. And Trump was asked about this. Buck and cut seven. Trump has kind of tiptoed around the New York City mayor's race because I think he knows the more he weighs in, the more he helps the people who shouldn't win, because it creates an adversarial relationship with Donald Trump, which is very helpful. But here's cut 7.
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Buck Sexton
Levo dropped out of the New York.
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Mayoral race, then Andrew Cuomo would only.
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Buck Sexton
Trail Mandani by four points. Would you call Curtis Lee?
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Clay Travis
What, to drop out of the race.
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Buck Sexton
So that can happen? Well, I looked at the polls, and looks like we're going to have a communist as the mayor of New York. It'll be very interesting. But here's the good news. He's got to go through the White House. Everything goes through the White House. At least this White House it does. And we'll have to see what happens. But if he dropped out, he's not going to win, and not looking too good for Cuomo either. But maybe, I don't know. If he dropped out, maybe Cuomo would have a little bit of a chance, but not much, because it looks like the lead is. It's not a great lead, but it's big enough that he should be able to win. So, you know, I don't know that I want to get involved. It's really a question of, would I rather have a Democrat or a Communist? And I would rather have a Democrat than a Communist.
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Clay Travis
I mean, this is where we are, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
This is where we are. So also, for anyone out there saying, why are you guys. Because we're seeing it. Why are you guys not having more faith in Sliwa's chances to win here? I don't know. Because Donald Trump also thinks that this is time to live in reality. You know, you can, you can get mad at the president if you like. And he, I'm sure he knows Curtis. He's Trump, obviously has been a New York guy his whole life, although now he's technically a Florida resident, or I guess a D.C. resident, but Florida is his home state. But he sees this, I think, along very similar lines to us, really.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
The.
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Buck Sexton
I feel exactly the way he does about this. I kind of rather have a Democrat than a Communist. A Democrat's not going to be great, and people need to also get used to that. It's not like if, if Cuomo wins, there's going to be some renaissance in. In the five boroughs, and New York City is going to be on that. It just won't be absolutely insanely bad.
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Clay Travis
It's like, would you rather step in gum or poop?
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Buck Sexton
This is the. Thank you, Clay.
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Clay Travis
This is the choice for New York City. New York City voters. Gum is frustrating, but you can get poop. You're like, what does that smell like? It's following me around everywhere. Momdani is poop and Cuomo is gum. And most people would rather step in gum than step in poop if you have to make that choice. And I think that's kind of a difference between a Democrat and a. And a Communist a little bit. The communist is a poop, and you can't ever get away from it. And it smells, and you walk in and you're like, what is that smell? It's following me everywhere. That's Mom. Donnie.
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Buck Sexton
Well, the Communists would say that they're rubber and you're glued. Yes, but. Yes. I'll just point this out, that there's no great outcome here, that Sliwa staying in this race probably doesn't change anything. But if it does come to a close enough election that it seems as though there would be a difference maker by Sliwa dropping out, there might be some people who are upset by that, but I know a lot of people in this audience were saying you're suppressing turnout. I'm not. First of all, I can't vote. I don't live in New York. I'm not suppressing anything. You're not suppressing anything. We're commenting on the situation, and our commentary is right in line with Donald Trump on this one, because he also understands the situation. And I think it's always. We always just tell you the truth and try to live in reality. The situation for New York in this election is not good. It's not good for the city of New York, and I would also argue it's not good for the country. Well, this is where. This is where we disagree. New York is still the Economic engine for a lot that matters to America as a whole. And New York as our primary, as our largest and you know, most well known, most visible in many ways, especially with the fall of Hollywood, as you know, LA as the entertainment capital, which isn't, you know, now it's like Vancouver and Hungary. I mean they're making movies everywhere. But L A New York is our, is our primary city. I mean it is our first city. And for it to, you know, it's one thing for San Francisco to go nuts. For New York to go full San Francisco, if you will, in its politics is something that I, I just think a lot of people, a lot of good people are going to suffer, which is, which is frustrating and, and it could have reverberations that are broader now. I know you think it's that maybe.
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Clay Travis
That I think it's going to be a pot. So the negative is Sliwa is guaranteeing that New York ends up with a communist in the wreckage, joyriding in the.
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Buck Sexton
Wreckage of New Yorkers hopes and dreams over here.
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Clay Travis
Come on the show and explain why I'm wrong with this. And he's probably going to say I might win. He's not going to win. And to buck's point, everybody should go vote. You should never change whether you vote or not based on anything that we say in this program. I go vote every single time that I can in my local jurisdiction. I want all of you to go vote every single time that you can in your jurisdictions too. We've said that a billion times. Okay? Now I do think if Mom Donnie wins, he and AOC become the face of the Democrat Party. And I think it has a benefit both nationally in the House and Senate next year, which is far more important than who is the mayor of New York City. Who controls the House, who controls the Senate matters way more. I also think this helps Elise Stefanik in a governor's race statewide in New York. In fact, I bet if Elise Stefanik was on this show right now and she answered the question, will it help you to defeat Kathy Hochul if Mom Donnie is the mayor? I think the answer is yes. So some people are upset. Let's have some fun. Valentine. Valentine EE New York City W O R listener he's mad at me. Let's listen.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Clay, you're such an ass.
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Clay Travis
You really are.
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Buck Sexton
Stay out of New York politics.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
You know nothing about it.
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Clay Travis
Why should we help the Democrats out?
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Curtis should stay in the race.
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Clay Travis
Well, she partly agrees with me. Valentine says I'm an ass, but she thinks Curtis should Stay in the race. The only reason Curtis should stay in the race, Buck, is if mom Donnie should be mayor. And that actually helps in the New York governor's race and the House and Senate nationwide. So Amazon. But maybe Valentine needs to call back, am I a total ass or am I an ass that half the time she is agreeing with? Because her argument.
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Buck Sexton
There you go.
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Clay Travis
You know, maybe I'm just an ass. Not. Or maybe I'm a jackass. Yes, maybe. I don't know.
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Buck Sexton
I think that the lessons learned component of this for the country are. That's variable to me. I'm not sure that it's going to be what people think. I think it might just be a little bit more of the same, which is New York continues to be dysfunctional.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
So.
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Buck Sexton
So I think there's a possible outcome here where instead of improving, New York just continues slow deterioration. And so instead of people saying, oh my gosh, look at what's going on here. It's just another Democrat city being run poorly. And so you don't necessarily get that benefit of, ok, this place has lost its mind. I think quietly San Francisco Democrats, based on actually what people who listen from the Bay Area have written it to tell us. The mayor's a little bit more on it now than in the past, is my understanding.
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Clay Travis
Jeffrey Laurie, the new mayor of San Francisco is actually for San Francisco. Right. I think he is a reasonable rational choice that is actually making San Francisco better than it was.
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Buck Sexton
But what I'm saying is it took a long time to get there. I mean, it took San Francisco having a human feces map so that people could avoid areas where there was so much human feces on the streets. Everybody. That is a real thing that happened. And people that were spending time in downtown San Fran, even a short time going through it were saying this place looks like some dystopian hellscape of drug abusers passed out in broad daylight, like drooling on themselves. And the whole thing, it was just, it was a mess. We don't want New York to get there. So I am still hoping here, look, Cuomo winning is a better outcome than Mamdani winning. Sliwa winning would be the biggest shock election win, I think by the numbers of all time. I don't, I don't know. I mean, he's, he would be coming back from. Because, well, what are we.
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Clay Travis
We got people who are fired up. Jacqueline in Brooklyn says, I'm going to be responsible if mom Donnie wins. Jacqueline, why will I be responsible?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
I'll explain to you, Clay And I'm very disappointed in what you have to say. And quite honestly, you can hear it in my voice. I am thoroughly disgusted with everyone that is saying the same thing that you are saying. First question, before I make my statement. How come you don't turn it around and take the opposite viewpoint, that if Cuomo were to drop out, that Curtis is the one that actually has the best chance of winning this election? Again, because.
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Clay Travis
Let me answer that question first. Because the data doesn't reflect that Democrats are going to vote. Hold on. Democrats are going to vote for a Democrat, So if Cuomo drops out, they don't suddenly vote for a Republican. Cuomo dropping out would ensure that Mom Donnie won.
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Jacqueline (Caller)
Okay. I have done a deep dive into every single one of these polls that have been conducted. The majority of those polled are Democrats, over 75%.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's the case in New York City, though, right?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
Well, are we completely going to ignore the Republicans, conservatives and independents?
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
No.
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Jacqueline (Caller)
That's 25%.
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Clay Travis
I would say probably so. Jacqueline, do you think President Trump and I are wrong?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
Why did they not come out and vote for him? And don't give me that excuse that it was 100 degrees on primary day because they had seven days of early voting. If they thought Cuomo was the best candidate to go out and vote for him, his own party failed him. They kicked him out as governor. They did not support him in the primary. That's how we got stuck with the Communists running on the Democratic tickets.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so how would I. You think I'm going to help Mom Donnie get elected? What should I be saying to ensure that Mom Donnie doesn't get elected?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
Say it again.
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Clay Travis
You think that I'm helping Mom Donnie get elected?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
I'm asking you what you're saying.
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Clay Travis
Okay, but hold on. What?
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Jacqueline (Caller)
Hold on.
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Clay Travis
I want you to be able to. Hold on. I want you to be able to tell me what I should be saying to ensure that Mom Donnie is not elected.
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Jacqueline (Caller)
I will tell you exactly that. I have done a deep dive investigating all of the information with regard to these polls. Cuomo had the highest unfavorability rating among his own people. The Democrats that were polled, 75% of those polled were Democrats, 47%. He had the highest unfavorability rating among Democrats after who? Adams, who realized he didn't have a chance of winning and he dropped out. The only way to stop this Communist is for Cuomo to come out and tell his supporters he is leaving the race. He doesn't have any energy. He doesn't want to be Mayor, his own people kicked him out as governor. They need to put their full support against Curtis or else. Thank you all of you for supporting a four time loser and Andrew Cuomo.
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Clay Travis
Okay, did we lose, Jacqueline?
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Buck Sexton
I think we might have. I think the chance of Cuomo dropping out to help a Republican win when Cuomo is in second place in every poll is zero. That's, that's part of the challenge.
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Clay Travis
Also, I don't believe that Andrew Cuomo could tell his voters, many of whom are Democrats, go vote for the Republican candidate, Curtis Lewa, and they would listen to him. I don't think that's possible.
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Buck Sexton
Cuomo, I would say, why would I drop next? Sorry, fuck Cuomo. I would say that I'm in second place and could. He could still win this election. Everybody, he could win this election, but he's going to drop and hope that there's a 30 or 40 point swing to Sliwa.
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Clay Travis
I will say this. I appreciate Jacqueline believing that I control the outcome.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, it's so fun.
- [33:25]
Clay Travis
I appreciate Jacqueline telling me that I control the outcome of the New York City mayors race. I know we got a big audience at W O R. If I could convince all of you to not vote for mom, Donnie, I would. I'm going ahead and taking the glass half full approach. Buck, which is, he's going to win and it's going to actually be better for the rest of the country. We'll just have to let New York City go underneath the waistline.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Remember that.
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Here is the former White House press secretary under. It was Obama, right? Well, no, Jen, no.
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Clay Travis
Psaki was the initial Biden president.
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Buck Sexton
Biden.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Thank you.
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Clay Travis
Before Karine Jean Pierre came in as the reliever. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
She was State Department under Obama. State Department spokesperson. Here she is starting. You're going to see more of this. Oh, well, Donald Trump may be Hitler, but J.D. vance is even worse than Hitler.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Play Clip 1 I think the little Manchurian candidate, J.D. vance, wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Okay, please bring blink four times. We'll come over here. We'll, we'll save you. And that he's willing to do anything to get there. And that your whole iteration you just outlined, I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter in some ways. And he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now, what's also True, though, is J.D. vance is not, he's in some ways goodish on paper, if you like what he believes in. I don't know. But I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him.
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Buck Sexton
No way.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
I don't think so either.
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Buck Sexton
Is no risk.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
It's, it's got no Riz. Right. And he's got, he just is a little odd.
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Buck Sexton
They are already panicking Clay about this because notice how she can't even really. So now what's it going to be? JD Is scarier in essence because he's younger. He's got a more polished in some ways resume. I mean, if you want to go down that pathway, he's, he's a scarier, younger Trump is basically where they're taking this.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's what that, that's the inevitable. They're going to continue to argue. Again, I'm telling you, and some of you think I'm crazy for saying this. As soon as the midterms are over, when we get to January and February of 27, and believe me, the actual 2028 presidential race will effectively start in January and February of 2027, they will start to say Republicans will never be able to replicate Donald Trump for the rest of our lives. They will start to acknowledge that Trump is a unique and transcendent political force. Even the attacks here, he's a scarier version of Trump. But then also notice what they said. He has no Riz.
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Buck Sexton
Now, there's for everybody, Riz is shorthand for charisma. I know this from the TikTok because the kids use this.
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Clay Travis
My boys. This would be the lingo of the kids. They would say that somebody who has appeal to the opposite sex has lots of Riz, which, as Buck just said, comes from charisma. So they are talking to an audience that probably doesn't know what Riz means and trying to attack JD Vance for not having it. I think actually the most pernicious part of this entire clip is going after the fact that they're saying, oh, J.D. vance's wife could never agree with him on these issues because that just seems like, oh, we've got to go save Usha Vance where they have three kids. I, I feel like I probably know Usha Vance because, and I may be mispronouncing her name, but there are lots of people, Usha, that went to law school thinking, hey, I'm maybe a little bit left of center. I would put myself in this category. And then you have kids and you see the way we're around the same age, you see the way the country is collapsing around you, and you say, this is not the America I grew up in. And I understand some of you reject this argument, but 1990s Democrats, many of them, most of them would be Republicans today. If you grew up in the 80s and the 90s, go back and look at Bill Clinton 92, you'll see these clips circulating every now and then where Hillary Clinton is saying we can't have illegal immigrants getting free healthcare in this country, where Joe Biden is saying we've got to lock up violent criminals.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, it's even, even more stark than that in some ways. Clay, in 2000, the New York Times editorial board, not an op ed, the actual editorial board, was writing scathing, scathing stuff about illegal immigration, lowering the wages of union workers and Hurting black workers in this country, you know, disproportionately because of the competition from illegals for wages that young, particularly young black men would be able to get on the, on.
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Clay Travis
The open market, the beginning ladder of employment jobs in America, driving down the cost.
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Buck Sexton
The New York Times tried that. I mean, the New York Times would be an open revolt if someone on the op ed page tried to write that.
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Clay Travis
Look, I mean, this is why a lot of you who listen to us now have had a similar political trajectory in your life to where I am. I think that J.D. vance and Usha Vance would be in that category where, look, Democrats used to argue from a sane perspective. Now we played that Abigail Spanberger crazy thing on trans kids. The Vances have three young kids. If you're a mom, regardless of what your politics are. We read that Sam Ponder comment about her daughter in high school. I mean, in middle school playing against a boy.
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Buck Sexton
She's really good, by the way. Where is she these days? I, I never heard of this woman.
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Clay Travis
She's a sportscaster person was super successful at espn. They regularly came after her for basically having common.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, okay.
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Clay Travis
She married a former NFL quarterback and they live in New York City. And I don't think she has a job in media now, which makes me think I should reach out to her and see if she wants to have a job in me.
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Buck Sexton
The next thing I was going to say to you is, Clay, I think you might have to talk to this lady.
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Clay Travis
I mean, what she wrote was well said and, and I think is representative of lots of moms out there. And certainly the MAHA movement has wrapped up a lot of this. There are many of you listening to us right now who got kids in school and during COVID you started to see what they were being taught. That was one of the maybe only nice things that came out of COVID is suddenly moms and dads were walking through, seeing their kids on remote and they said, you're, this is what your lesson plans are. This is what you're being taught. And alarm bells started going off and a lot of parents all over the country who suddenly got involved with school boards and got involved with where their sons and daughters are going to class. And I think Ghosha Vance is again a Maha mom, ish, where she's just looking around and saying, I didn't sign up for crazy.
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Buck Sexton
You know what's going to be tough for them too is when they're arguing that J.D. vance is a white supremacist. That's going to be tough. That's going to be tough for a whole, a whole range of reasons, including his wife and his children. His children are biracial and his wife is obviously not white. But this is a big part of Democrat lore that to be a Republican now in the Trump era, there's this underpinning, there's this, you know, foundational sense of white supremacy. Then again, though, they make that, they make the anti, they make the Nazi, which is of course an anti Semitic argument as well, about Trump.
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Trump.
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Buck Sexton
Even though Trump's son in law is Jewish and his grandchildren on one side or some of his grandchildren are Jewish, you know, they don't care. They'll make the argument even though on its face it's preposterous. But they are going to be making a. JD Vance supports white supremacy and is not and is married to a non white person.
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Clay Travis
It's not going to register. They're going to make that argument. But there's actually a lot of Indian moms and dads out there who are similar in age to ushavans. And they're looking around and they're saying, this is not the country I grew up in either.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And so I, I think again, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, a lot of moms and dads of roughly our age, as they become parents, start to pay attention to the culture that surrounds their kids and they're saying, this is not the culture that I grew up in. And so what they're trying to do is bully. That's what this is that. Right. Like Jen Psaki, the, I would say left wing women are the predominant bullies in all of the political world because they try to shame other women into thinking for themselves and, and argue, oh, you have, you're a feminist thinking for themselves. Yeah, right, of course. But you're a feminist. Right. How in the world could you support Donald Trump anyway? They're trying to do it. I think it actually repulses as opposed to attracts and I don't think it's going to work.
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Buck Sexton
I also think that people haven't really yet fully on the other side grappled with what JD Vance represents, which is in so many ways the completed aspiration of the American dream. Comes from a difficult, essentially, you know, low income or impoverished single single parent households, drug addicts, makes it on his own, joins the Marine Corps, goes to Yale Law School, meets his beautiful, brilliant wife in Yale Law School, is building a family, you know, is, loves his kids, carries his kids around with him. And you know, all this is all really powerful stuff for normal people, normal Americans to see. They go, yeah, yeah, I'm into that. He's not some, you know, some guy who happened to marry his third heiress, Salah, like John Kerry and, you know, moved to a safe district and did all this other stuff and try. And his whole life is about the aspiration of self. I think that there's a lot of J.D. vance's story that is. It's not that it's overshadowed by Trump, but we're still very much in the Trump era, but that the transfer when Trump decides to be kingmaker, assuming he does, which I think he will for JD Going forward, I do think MAGA will be absolutely behind JD And I think Marco Rubio is going to be his vice president. I think this all actually think about how quickly that that rolls off of your mind. My mind. And I think a lot of. A lot of you. What's the Democrat plan is to see whether Kamala is such an imbecile that she can't run again or not.
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Clay Travis
I mean, it's going to end up new some in aoc, as we said.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, if I were predicting, but they would not. You will not hear a lot of Democrats say that right now because they don't want to get on the wrong side of it. I don't think that they know they're going to have.
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Clay Travis
They're going to have an absolute donnybrook when it comes to who the nominee is. I think that, that I think Gavin Newsom, Royal Rumble style, will throw everybody else out of the ring and emerge as the nominee.
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Buck Sexton
And JD Will be able to continue not only the machinery of. Of Trump and the MAGA movement, but he is ideologically aligned with Trump. You can't have a Democrat who's ideologically tying himself to Biden. That's a disaster. And you also know that they can't win on some of these issues at the national level. So they're going to have to try to play this game of I say one thing to one audience, another thing to another audience. You know, Gavin Newsom is going to be 15 versions of Gavin Newsom if he's the nominee.
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Clay Travis
Look, here's the other thing on JD And I think Marco will be this, too. They're not as bull in a China shop as Trump. How often does Trump get attacked? Not on the final.
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Buck Sexton
I know we're going to miss it. We're going to miss the hilarious tweets.
- [49:19]
Clay Travis
I think there is an argument that the bull in a China shop is the reason Trump is president and that the JD May be too disciplined to get as much attention on the issues as Trump does.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Fireworks in the fourth quarter.
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Buck Sexton
Snooze off.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?
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Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
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Buck Sexton
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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Clay Travis
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
I'm Leon Nefak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Yeah, that's right.
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Buck Sexton
Lock her up.
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Leon Neyfak (Fiasco Benghazi Host)
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Clay Travis
We are joined now by Florida's Lieutenant governor Jay Collins, decorated Green Beret former state senator. He's speaking at the University of Florida Turning Point event tonight. And I know you're the lieutenant Governor, but there's kind of a job opening going on right now at the University of Florida. When it comes to head coach, I would imagine there'll be a little discussion about that at the turning point of it.
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
You know, I, I think there just might be. It's a big deal down in Gainesville. We'll see what happens. We'll see.
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Clay Travis
All right. So you are the lieutenant governor, obviously. We've had Ron DeSantis on this program a ton over the years. He's done a fantastic job. James Uth Meyer has done a great job as the attorney general. Buck is a resident of the state of Florida, so he is one of your constituents right now. As you look forward to what's coming, what can Floridians do to ensure that they end up in the same good governance universe that they're in right now?
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Well, that's a great question. And I'll tell you what, it comes down to a couple things. One, you got to dig in and know who you're voting for. You got to look at track record. It's not just about saying that we're going to get things, saying we're going to do things. You got to get things done. Say what you mean, mean what you say. Follow up with actions. Those are the things that matter. The thing that has made Governor DeSantis who he is, he is a man of action. He says it, he means it, he does it, and then he follows up and holds people accountable. That is a great recipe for good governance.
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Buck Sexton
Lt. Governor Collins, appreciate you being here. And yes, I am a proud new Floridian, although I like to point out that my wife is a born and raised original Floridian. So, you know, I get a little bit of. A little bit of extra authenticity there. Now in South Florida, a Gator grad and her family actually lives in Tallahassee. So I get to spend a. I'm one of the few people I know of who doesn't work for the government of Florida, but spends a fair amount of time in Tallahassee and doesn't go to college there. But anyway, on the property tax issue, I want to ask you about this, and I'm asking it because I actually think there's a broader philosophical point here that applies to people all across the country. The notion that you can never really own your home and that you have to continuously rent it from state and or local government, I think is problematic. I think the notion that you can't just own a place and stay there and that you are subject to the. The constant possibility of price hikes, etc. Is not where we should be. And I know that Governor DeSantis really wants to get rid of property tax. I know it happens at like the county and local level. Who's standing in the way of this and how can we get this actually done?
- [57:21]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Yeah. So I 100% agree with you. The American dream is to own your home and you never really own it if the government can take it from you. So what we want to do is exempt homesteaded properties from property tax. Cut and dried. That's got to be a ballot initiative. You know, we'll run. We're going to push for legislation to be done to run it through there and do all of our math to take care of this. But it's going to have to go on the ballot. People are have to show up. They're going to have to check the box, vote yes if they want that to happen. But it's incumbent on us to do a good job of presenting this. The governor is going to bring out his approach with details here shortly. And when he does, you know, I would love to come back on here and hit his talking points, what he's going to do. But the fact of the matter is this. It's a de minimis amount of the money dedicated that comes to property tax, that's dedicated to homesteaded properties between 6 and 8% of most counties budgets. Those are the numbers we're seeing right now. That's solvable, that's achievable to get the government out of your homestead property.
- [58:22]
Buck Sexton
This is what's so important. I think, I think, Lieutenant Governor, people hear this and they say, oh, but what about fire and police and like, and what about schools? What you're telling me is, no, that can be, that can be funded by other means.
- [58:36]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
100%. There are ways to make this happen. That's a small amount of your property tax budget that comes from homesteaded properties. No one's going to cut the cops, no one's going to cut the firefighters. No one's going to cut education. That will not happen in Florida. We back those people. We stand by them. We lead the nation in many of those things. So what do you do? We're going to measure a little bit. We're going to go in and fafo, as we call it, or doge, as. As the federal government calls it, calls it, and clean up our spending in some of these municipalities. We're going to find ways to save via how we purchase. And then, you know, we're going to go in and make sure those numbers make sense. It's got to go on the ballot. People got to show up. This is completely doable, I've been told.
- [59:15]
Buck Sexton
I just said this excites me because it would give us yet another leg up on these fancy Tennesseans who all are on Clay's team here for what? The best, best new red state to move to for, for people especially from the Northeast. So, you know, we need to, we need to stay competitive here with Tennessee in the great state of Florida. Go ahead, Clay.
- [59:33]
Clay Travis
Jay Collins, lieutenant governor of Florida with us right now. Speaking of competitive, when you see that New York City may be poised to elect a communist in Mamdani as mayor, do you look around and just expect. We already know that there's been a huge influx of New Yorkers to Florida. Buck is a good example. But there are, are probably millions of people who live in Florida now that that had northeastern upper, you know, grew up in the Northeast. Do you look at that and say, well, we got a bunch more coming. Do you pay attention to other states like that and know that Florida is seen as a bastion of freedom?
- [60:12]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Man, we're the conservative proving grounds of America. That's who we are. America is that shining city on the hill. Then I think Florida is the light, right? We are shining on that because we're leading the way. We're highlighting what's white in America. The fact of the matter is this, look, I'm a one legged, I'm a God fearing, gun loving, freedom defending, one legged, retired Green Beret, 23 years I worked with the ESU, the NYPD, the NYFD. We buried friends across the globe because of the war on terror. Of all the cities in this nation, why on earth does Mamdani have to be elected in that city? Do we really have to learn this lesson face first? How ridiculous is it? He's a watered down communist and we got to learn this in the city that never sleeps in New York City. It's absolutely bonkers. It's wrong. And yeah, you're going to see a stream of caravan of people come in fleeing New York just like during COVID because of his horrible leadership. He's going to gut the state. You know, there's work to do.
- [61:11]
Buck Sexton
We're speaking to Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins of Florida. And Lieutenant Governor, as the name implies, you are second in state leadership. Our fantastic Governor Ron DeSantis, who you work, work very closely with is unfortunately going to be termed out here. I know they had the no Kings rally. I don't know. DeSantis as King of Florida sounds nice to a lot of us, but the rules are the rules. But you, sir, would seem to be in a fantastic position to pick up the scepter and continue the legacy. Can you speak to that? Are you thinking about a governor's run?
- [61:45]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Yeah, we're thinking long and hard about this. We've taken a very methodic approach to this. I had kind of a three phased approach. You know, it's a family decision. You gotta make sure that my kids and my wife, the things I care about most, are straight and ready, that the support structure around that in my local community is prepped and ready. And then it comes down to leadership after who I believe is the goat. Our greatest governor in the state's history, frankly, probably the greatest governor in our nation's history. He's amazing. He's done an incredible job. Well, my approach, my type of leadership, be what's best for Florida. It's a we thing, not a me thing. And I'll tell you, we really finalized kind of our approach here and we're chewing on what our decision is going to be. So I would say stay tuned. We'll have some information to share here soonish.
- [62:31]
Buck Sexton
Soonish, he says.
- [62:32]
Clay Travis
Okay, what do you think Ron DeSantis is going to do next? He's been obviously an incredibly successful governor. As Buck said, he is term limited out. So come next year, his. His tenure as governor will be over. What do you expect to see him do?
- [62:48]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Well, I'll tell you what, the one thing I know about him, he is. He's a conservative juggernaut, right? He is brilliant. He is hard working. No matter what he does, he's going to make a difference because he's going to lead. He knows what matters. He fights for it and then people get alongside him. You know, there will be a lot of opportunities. Not really sure where he's going to go yet, but I'll tell you, I bring some popcorn and wash because he's going to do something pretty amazing, I'm sure.
- [63:13]
Clay Travis
Well, we wish you well at the University of Florida at the Turning Point event tonight in Gainesville. We know we have a lot of Florida Gator fans listening. I hope at some point they end up with a Florida football coach again, because as a Tennessee fan, I'm not that ecstatic for them to get another football coach. I'm fine with them not having one, but Lieutenant Governor, we appreciate the time. Good luck at the event tonight. We're glad you're doing it.
- [63:35]
Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
Hey, I appreciate y'. All. Thank you. Event's gonna be great, and God bless both of you. Appreciate it.
- [63:41]
Buck Sexton
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Jay Collins (Florida Lieutenant Governor)
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