Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 29 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review

Episode Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode focuses on the hard-fought New York City mayoral race, with in-depth conversations about the candidates (Curtis Sliwa, Zoran Mamdani, Andrew Cuomo), their ideologies, and what’s at stake for NYC and national politics. The hosts also talk with Florida Congressman and gubernatorial candidate Byron Donalds, discuss the culture war within the Democratic Party, critique diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) politics, and highlight broader societal trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The NYC Mayoral Race: Candidates, Policy Clashes & Culture Wars

• Curtis Sliwa (Republican), Zoran Mamdani (Democrat), Andrew Cuomo (Independent)
  • The hosts scrutinize Mamdani’s far-left ideology using his own past statements.
  • Clay Travis frames the election as a battle between “radical leftists” and “mainstream/moderate Democrats,” lamenting a Democratic Party civil war (13:25).
  • Discussion on Mamdani’s views on policing/criminal justice reform, drawing on his comments about prisons and trauma (05:32; 07:12); critique of his statements on NYPD-IDF collaboration and Israel-Palestine (08:16).
  • Buck highlights that NYC’s large Jewish population makes the anti-Israel rhetoric especially paradoxical for Mamdani’s candidacy (11:23).

Clay Travis [08:53]: “He believes intellectually in the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, that the NYPD exists as a colonialist occupier... and that you must overthrow the systems of government that exist in the United States in order for the people to truly be free.”

Flashback Timestamps:

• [05:32]: Mamdani on why prisons “don’t make us safer”
• [07:12]: Mamdani on entering politics to “fight apartheid from the inside”
• [08:16]: Mamdani links NYPD and IDF as “oppressive”
• [13:25]: Cuomo warns, “the far left will destroy the Democratic Party”

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2. Curtis Sliwa Interview: His Case, Criticisms, and Political Odds

Interview begins [22:08]

• Sliwa emphasizes his blue-collar, populist credentials; criticizes Adams and Cuomo as creators of the current city crisis (23:50).
• Fields tough questions about vote-splitting and whether he might spoil the race for anti-Mamdani voters.
• Dismisses dropping out (“Billionaires tried to bribe me with $10 million. Now I got to walk around with armed guards… You really think that Curtis Sliwa… is going to drop out?” [25:16]).
• Describes his unique “Protect Animals” ballot line—appealing to single-issue animal welfare voters.
• Paints Cuomo and Mamdani as indistinguishable on key criminal justice issues: “They are birds of a feather, two peas in a pod. They’re Democrats. They have caused the destruction of New York State.” (27:12)

Memorable Moment:

Curtis Sliwa [26:04]: “Think of that last scene in Braveheart… I’m saying: impale me. I will never support Andrew Cuomo, the Prince of Evil.”

Electoral Pathway:

• Builds on 28% previous support, now targeting independents, animal rights advocates.
• “One person, one vote. Let the people choose the next mayor.” (28:20)

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3. National & Florida Politics: Rep. Byron Donalds Interview

Interview begins [37:45]

• Donalds discusses gridlock in Congress over the government shutdown—calls Democrats leaderless and strategy-less (38:38).
• On his candidacy for Florida governor: touts strong fundraising, wide support, and commitment to visiting every county (40:17).
• Backs DeSantis’s plan to end property tax for homesteaded properties but stresses funding for vital services needs safeguarding.
• Advises incoming Florida transplants from blue states to “remember why you left” and support Florida’s principles (43:21).
• Predicts Mamdani’s win would make NY’s leftward tilt national; warns these “Marxist” policies could go mainstream (44:52).

Byron Donalds [44:52]: “To be an out and out Marxist and really subscribing to policies that have never worked anywhere in the history of the planet, that’s terrible for New York City.”

Lighthearted Exchange:

• Hosts rib Donalds on college football; Donalds dishes back over Seminoles and Gators rivalry (47:25).

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4. DEI Politics, Democrat Party Shifts, and Media Critique

• Hosts react to Katie Miller’s viral comments on CNN, criticizing Karine Jean-Pierre’s White House press secretary role as a “DEI” appointment (58:12).
• Clay Travis [60:53]: “As a black gay woman, I believe… Why do I care about your race or your sex?”
• Comparison of the Democrat Party platform from 2012 to 2024: references to men and fathers have plummeted, LGBTQ rights references up “1044%” (63:16).
• Commentary on “sword and shield” nature of identity politics—Democrats use identity to both attack and defend, but criticism from others is off-limits (65:43).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Buck Sexton on Mamdani’s rhetoric: "That's like Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of antisemitism" [10:28]
• Curtis Sliwa refusing to drop out: “Think of that last scene in Braveheart… I’m saying: impale me.” [26:04]
• Curtis Sliwa on bribery offers: “They know not what they do, but anybody moving forward—hey, you’re going to be prosecuted…” [33:10]
• Byron Donalds on Democrats: “They don’t have a plan. They got no strategy.” [38:38]
• Clay Travis on DEI: “You want to hire the best for the role, not just based on skin color.” [58:12]
• Byron Donalds on New Yorkers moving to Florida: “Remember why you came here… Don’t try to remake Florida into the place you just left.” [43:21]
• Clay Travis mocking Democrat identity preambles: “It is the modern-day royalty…” [60:19]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic/Guest/Theme | |-----------|------------------| | 03:00 | Main discussion begins: the NYC mayoral race | | 05:32 | Mamdani on prisons and criminal justice | | 07:12 | Mamdani on "fighting apartheid from the inside" | | 08:16 | Mamdani on NYPD-IDF, oppression rhetoric | | 13:25 | Cuomo’s stark warning on Democratic civil war | | 22:08 | Curtis Sliwa joins show: campaign strategy, critiques | | 26:04 | Sliwa’s “Braveheart” moment, refusing to drop out | | 37:45 | Rep. Byron Donalds interview: shutdown, governor race, policy | | 44:52 | Donalds on national consequences of NYC’s left turn | | 58:12 | CNN clip: DEI, Karine Jean-Pierre, identity rhetoric | | 63:16 | Democrat platform shift: references to men/down, LGBTQ/up | | 65:43 | Discussion of "sword and shield" of identity politics |

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Tone & Language

The hosts’ style is energetic, combative, and infused with humor and sarcasm, especially when critiquing left-wing politics or media. Guests are engaged in a direct, sometimes playful way—the three-way with Sliwa balances skepticism with camaraderie; with Donalds, the conversation toggles between substantive politics and sports banter.

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Summary Takeaways for Listeners

• The NYC mayoral race is a microcosm of a national struggle over leftist versus moderate politics and the role of identity and ideology in governance.
• Curtis Sliwa paints himself as the only “populist” challenger, refusing to drop out despite pressure and even alleged bribe attempts.
• Mamdani’s rise is deeply tied to youthful frustration, left-wing radicalism, and shifting campaign tactics (TikTok, social media over legacy press).
• Byron Donalds expects to ride strong conservative momentum in Florida, encourages policy emulation nationwide, and predicts Democrats’ radical tilt will backfire.
• Throughout, the hosts sharply critique current Democratic identity politics and the ascendance of DEI frameworks, highlighting what they view as the disconnect with productive governance.

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For listeners seeking detailed analysis of the NYC mayoral race, critical discussion on national political trends, and brash, unapologetic conservative commentary—this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Indeed. So do us a solid and pre order yours on Amazon today. Welcome back in. We're talking about this big race in nyc. Going to give you our thoughts on this. And remember Curtis Sliwa, the Republican candidate in this. You have a Democrat, Commie Mamdani, and then you got Cuomo as the independent, really a third party candidate here. And then you have Curtis Sliwa running as the Republican in this race. Curtis is going to make his case. Many of you in the New York area have been saying, hey guys, you gotta have Curtis on. Of course we're gonna have Curtis on. And we have tried to have Cuomo on. He is dodging and weaving and stalling. Kind of like his campaign. Yeah, not really taking anything all that seriously. Cuomo turns out not very good at politics. That's, that's a thing that can happen when you've only gotten where you are because people know your last name because daddy was the governor for a long time. So this is what we have seen with him. But let's dive in, Mr. Clay, to more of this, more of this Mamdani stuff out there. I don't know which is the worst one of these two. So let me start with this. These are flashbacks. Now this is 2020, 2021. I would argue the campaign is saying, the Mamdani campaign is saying, oh, he's evolved. No, actually what you saw with people in 2020 and 2021 is what do they really think? Because when all of a sudden they felt free to be as radical left and insane as they want with no, not only, no consequence, but, but it was in their interest to do so they let it rip. So they showed you who they really were in 2020 and 2021, whether it was on Covid or BLM or any of these things. Clay, here is Mamdani on police and prisons in August of 2020. This is before that election. That as we. Oh, we'll talk about that another time. This is cut 4.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Play it the way that prisons are set up in our society, I would argue that they do not work, they do not make us safer. The instinct is to just take that person, the source of that harm, the source of that issue, and then just throw them away, put them in a cage and throw away the key. That doesn't address the reason why that harm was created in the first place. A lot of times people who create trauma for others are those who themselves went through trauma earlier in their own lives. And I bring all of this up to say that, you know, again, like when we talk about policing, I don't think the system actually makes us safer. I think what it does is it just removes problems out of view.

[Buck Sexton]

So, Clay, when someone has been arrested 50 or 100 times, which is not unusual in New York City for the criminal class, the problem, according to Momdani, is us, is everybody else is the law abiding people of New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is why old ladies can't walk down the street. In some cities in America, including some neighborhoods, New York overall is pretty safe, but some neighborhoods of New York, without getting some maniac punching them in the face.

[Clay Travis]

How much of this. And we've got other cuts that I think we need to play too. So prisons don't make us safer. We also have. This is more detailed and this sounds like a lot of sort of, I would say, colonialism clap trap that is taught as people like his dad. But here he says that he got into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play this too. This is cut three. This is from June of 2021.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I respect that there are many differences of opinion about the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state. But I do think that as long as the state has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest the state at every which point and every which place. And there is an opportunity to have our voices heard within the state. And obviously by becoming a member of the state in terms of its political class, you are compromised because you're legitimizing it in many ways. But I think if I didn't see the ability for us to claim victories from the inside, then I wouldn't be doing this.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. I mean, he is a committed left wing ideologue. Let's also play Cut to. This is June 5, 2021. This is where he says the NYPD and the IDF. If you're wondering, like how did the world did so many leftists end up in this world where they're camping on campuses, they're protesting, this is the kind of talk that propels that. This is very common on college campuses.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Cut to the cruelty of what is happening in Israel, in Palestine. It is a cruelty that is systematized and does not simply rise and fall when the IDF decides to kill men, women, children and families. Beyond the binary in Palestine, in different moments of spikes, I think of how the NYPD and the IDF have had a relationship for many years. A relationship that has meant, you know, tactics of oppression, crossing from one country to the other. And that has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people wherever they may be.

[Clay Travis]

So I mean, all of this is gobbledygook university campus talk. But what's important here, Buck, and we hit on this yesterday, and I think it's important for all of you is to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone who hears this knows that he is lying when he's saying he disavows this because this is not some off the cuff comment that happened to be made and it's not deeply thought. He believes intellectually in the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, that the NYPD exists as a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats of minority, and that you must overthrow the systems of government that exist in the United States in order for the people to truly be free. That's what he believes. So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few times back in 20 and 21. And you're right, this was the era when leftists felt the most free to say what they truly believed because their power was in ascendance.

[Buck Sexton]

And he's mentioning the IDF here, which you might say, what does that have.

[Clay Travis]

To do with the.

[Buck Sexton]

The nypd? So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau, formerly Division. And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with, with law enforcement in Israel. It also has relationships with law enforcement in dozens of countries all over the world. In the uk, in Australia, in France, you know, in Japan. Find me a country that America has a close relationship with. And there's a pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind of liaison relationship with, with that country.

[Clay Travis]

Why.

[Buck Sexton]

Why the idf, like, or rather, why Israel? Right. We know the answer, but it's just so. It's just so telling that he finds this. This little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department has a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in Tel Aviv. There's some nefarious thing going on here. And what was the line he used that when it's the boots of the nypd, the IDF is lacing them up? I mean, that's really. That's like Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of anti Semitism and anti Jew. And this guy is going to become the mayor of New York City, which actually has more. I think it has more Jewish people in New York City than Tel Aviv. So that's interesting that this guy is somehow going to be the mayor of New York, but a lot of Upper west side Jewish Americans are going to vote for this guy. Clay. That's the part that's so crazy.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And also, I would say if Jews were really running the country, don't you think they could maybe have a mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I mean, for people. Because there's people on the right now who say, oh, you're owned by Israel. Oh, Israel's running everything. Okay. Don't you think if Israel was running everything, that they would pick someone as mayor of New York City who, as Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population that doesn't hate them? And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo, who is also an awful candidate, there's all this stuff out there that Mamdani has said that should be fertile for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns, which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's that he's still relying on legacy media because that's how he has fueled his entire political career. And legacy media every day becomes less powerful and less popular. And. And Mom, Donnie has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads during the Bachelor and all these things that people in their 20s and 30s look at and are connected to. Let's listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit earlier today on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo saying the left wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, there's a quiet civil war going.

[Byron Donalds]

On in the Democratic Party right now.

[Buck Sexton]

You have an extreme left, radical left, Bernie Sanders, aoc. Mamdani is just the banner carrier for that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats.

[Curtis Sliwa]

They now call me moderate.

[Buck Sexton]

They used to call me liberal. Now I'm a moderate because the Whole party shifted. And that's what this election is about. It is that civil war. I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party. I believe it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if that far left becomes dominant.

[Clay Travis]

I think he's 100% right about this, Buck. The problem is what he is pointing to, I think actually benefits Mamdani in New York City because I think a lot of young people are frustrated. And when you are frustrated, you challenge the consensus candidates, people in positions of power, the guys who know how to talk to all the CEOs. You live through this. Occupy Wall street is just a form of what Mamdani is basically arguing now, distilled in a more articulate, front facing version. You may be able to speak to it. I don't remember was there ever a really great spokesperson for Occupy Wall Street. I don't remember one who really kind of captivated the nation. Mamdani is in many ways a voice for that anger that has been percolating in New York City for a long time.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, it was fascinating about Occupy Wall street was. It was done under the Obama administration.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And so there was all this. The people in charge, I mean, not Obama, but like the other people are like really bad. So if it had been a Republican, it would have had a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right. But people have said it was more a meme than a movement. I think that's probably an accurate description of it. But it did. It did have a lot of the class warfare stuff going on. And it was a collective, so there was no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't it interesting? Occupy Wall street and the first iteration of BLM happened on Obama's watch.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Which was so. So it was this game of like, we're so upset at the people in charge. They're all bought off by corporate interests. But not Obama. I mean, he's basically Jesus. I mean, he's incredible. He's a deity.

[Clay Travis]

This also, by the way, with Mamdani. I think this is so important for those of you out there who say, well, I don't care about what happens in the Middle East, I don't care about what happens in Israel. They are exporting the same arguments from Israel and the Middle east to the United States now. And this is a story that I wanted to hit Buck, and I'll mention it right now, but Mamdani's father, we played the cut yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's motivation as his guide for the Holocaust. Mamdani's dad wrote a book post 911 saying the United States and Al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US invaded Afghanistan, which he saw as a similar in nature act as the attack on the World Trade Centers. And you say okay, well that's crazy. This is what they have argued that Israel's response to October 7th when 1200 Jews were killed, two hundreds of them were captured and held hostage for years, that Israel was the moral equivalent of Hamas in the way that they responded. And this argument started with oh yeah, sure, 9 11, Al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and killed thousands of people. But America's response to Al Qaeda was in fact the same as Al Qaeda and in fact the Mamdani's dads of the world Buck as you well know because you saw it happen at your school, argued that America deserved it because we actually started and provoked the 911 attack in their mind based on things that America had done in the past.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Curtis Sliwa]

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[Clay Travis]

We've been talking a lot about Mamdani, Cuomo and Sliwa and the Republican nominee for the New York City Mayor's office is in with us now. He is Curtis Sliwa and Curtis, we appreciate you coming on the show and I know that you are running around like crazy talking everywhere. So I'm just going to start off, let's just dive right into it. I have pledged if you win so you know, to wear a red beret for a week and open up a bar tab at a sports bar not run by Communists in New York City. So I'm on the record there. If you win, here's my concern. You can tell me why I'm a moron. If you stay in this race, I think on Wednesday we are going to wake up and we are going to see that Mamdani did not get the majority of the vote but that you and Andrew Cuomo have split the anti Mamdani vote and as a result this awful Marxist left wing lunatic Mamdani is going to be the next mayor of New York City. If that happens, will you feel responsible? How would you respond to someone like me who thinks that that's the most likely outcome if you stay in the race.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Well, let's go back to your initial statement. That's too easy. A bar cab in a gin mill. How about riding the number four chain, the Muggers Express, with me and your red Beret fighting crime? Yeah, yeah, that's a little more dangerous. But on the.

[Clay Travis]

All right, I will join you on whatever public transit you would like me to join you on. If you are New York City's mayor in a red beret, I will join you. So I'll step it up a notch.

[Curtis Sliwa]

But remember, wait a second. The reason there is a Zorhan Mandami is that you had a failed mayor, Eric Adams, the most corrupt in the history of New York City. And that's saying a lot. Had he been a halfway decent mayor, it would have been round to 2025, as it was in 2021. Eric Adams, incumbent Democrat, running against Republican challenger Curtis Lewis. So Eric Adams, failed Democrat. Then Andrew Cuomo, like a political zombie, came back from the Hamptons where he was hanging out with his billionaire friends with 40 points ahead on March 1, when he announced he was running in the Democratic primary to become the next mayor. Three and a half months later, with Zoran Mondame at 1%, when Andrew announced at 40% and he got beat by 13% and admitted he ran a horrible race, he didn't do retail politics. Well, guess what? Just recently, the New York Post published a story that said that Andrew Cuomo has been absent from the campaign trail for 10 days since Labor Day. You don't win elections that way. I'm in the subways, I'm in the streets, I'm on the buses. I'm meeting the people, the voters. I am the Republican populist, blue collar, working class candidate. That's my pathway to victory. Andrew Cuomo is responsible for the rise of Johan Mandami, and the Democrats are responsible for the Socialists taking over their party. So why would I even drop out? And by the way, you can't drop out. I'm on the ballot. I'm not on the number two line. I'm the Republican candidate. There's no dropping out. I've never intended to drop out. Billionaires tried to bribe me with $10 million. Now I got to walk around with armed guards along with my wife Nancy, because our lives have been threatened. You really think that Curtis Lewis, with everything I've been through in my life, is going to drop out? Think of that last scene in Braveheart where Mel Gibson is on the gurney and the executioner says, I Want you to bow to the King of England or I'm going to impale you. I'm saying impale me. I will never support Andrew Cuomo, the Prince of Evil. He's cold hearted. He is the worst of what the Democratic Party represents.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, so if I am right though, and Mamdani wins because you and Cuomo split the anti momdani vote, is it your contention that Mamdani is not going to be worse than Cuomo would be? And by the way, Bucket, neither Buck nor I have any love lost for Cuomo at all. And Bucks, you've won Buck over with your Braveheart analogy there.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, but. Yes, I was going to say that's. That's all I needed to hear, but go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

But if. If mom, Donnie is elected, do you not think that he will be worse for New York City than Cuomo? Or do you think they're both so awful there's no distinction at all? No matter who would win it there?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Well, the reason that we lock up toothpaste and not criminals is the architect of no cash bail. Andrew Cuomo and then his apprentice is. Guys, my oldest son Anthony was nearly king killed in a gang attack. Juveniles, they stomped him. He's lucky to have survived because of the architect of raised the age, Cuomo and his supporter on that, the apprentice or Mandami. These five juveniles who should have gone to criminal court and been charged with adult crimes, went to family court and were released on their own recognizance to their parents. And then lastly, Governor Cuomo, when he was in charge 10 years ago, before he fled impeachment to the Hamptons, he was the architect of closing our prison, Rikers island, and his apprentice, Zohan Mandami, they both have led to the crime crisis that we're in now. I see no differentiation. They are birds of a feather, two peas in a pod. They're Democrats. They have caused the destruction of New York State. They're looking to destroy New York City. And again, Andrew Cuomo has only himself to blame for Zohan Mandami being the Democratic nominee because he didn't run a race. So I'm the Republican. I have Republican values. Completely different than my adversaries, I believe. This is a strange notion in America, isn't it? Democracy should prevail. The billionaires aren't going to choose the mayor or the influencers or the insiders. The people. One person, one vote. Let the people choose the next mayor. Cuomo has already signaled that if he loses to Zoran Mondame, he's fleeing to Florida. I stay, I fight for what I know is right. Improve, don't move. If I happen to lose to Zoran, I will become his worst nightmare. 24, 7, 3, 6, 5. I fight, fight, fight, fight. Cuomo runs, runs, runs, runs.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, so now the other New Yorker here, Curtis, wants to jump in. I wanted Clay to be able to get out there because he's been, he's been worried about the ticket splitting issue. I just want to throw out there that I think blue face paint a la Braveheart along with your red beret would be a good look in these final days, because that is a fantastic movie. And now to his point, you have won me over with your fight till the very end. But tell me this, how is it that you could win? Is it that all the polls, if you win based on what the so called intelligentsia and the political, political class, pundits, etcetera, Based on what they've been saying, it would be the biggest upset. I don't know. I mean, certainly along the lines of Trump 2016. Bigger than that, based on the numbers. What do you say to those people who are telling you you're a long shot, you're a no shot, and you're just helping the other side? Right? How do you win? What's your pathway look like?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Last time I ran against Eric Adams and remember, I did warn everybody he would be corrupt and there would be chaos. I was right about that. And I got 28% of the vote. So I build on the 28%. I not only have conservative Republican votes, there are two and a half times the number of independents than there are Republicans. I have that vote and I have a new line, Independent line, protect animals. First time ever in electoral history, my wife was able to get the signatures to qualify. It's the first independent line on the ballot. Try to find Andrew Cuomo in the maze, very difficult. And it calls for no kill shelters and put animal abusers in jail. Let me tell you something. There are a lot of women and men who are one issue voters out there when it comes to animals. Mahatma Gandhi said, a society that does not take care of its animals does not take care of its people. And look at us here in New York City. We don't take care of our homeless, our emotionally disturbed, our veterans. But Cuomo supported the $7 billion that Eric Adams spent on illegal aliens. People we didn't even know. I want to take care of our own. It's time we bring it home and care for our homeless, our emotionally disturbed and Most importantly, our veterans who have been forsaken. You don't hear Cuomo saying that. And naturally, you don't hear Curtis.

[Buck Sexton]

Curtis, I love the protect animals thing. I love dogs as much as any human being I've ever met and other animals, too. So I think that's fantastic. But I want to ask you about this. The Mamdani shape shifting situation here or the. The. The code switching, the. Changing it up on some of this stuff. For example, now he's saying he would keep Jessica Tisch, who I actually worked with at the NYPD many years ago, keep her in the commissioner role. What do you make of that? I mean, is it just. He'll say anything to make people not as scared of his communist nonsense as they should be? What's going on?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Well, he's Bill de Blasio on steroids. Now, remember, he's more dangerous because Bill de Blasio, halfway through the night, would be on the back porch of Gracie Mansion smoking his Maui Wowee and Hindu Kush with his grifter wife, Charlay, with Zorah Mandami. He would give 20 hours a day to destroying the city. But de Blasio, when he was running in 2013, said, I will choose Bill Bratton as my police commissioner. That was his insurance policy. So he's following in the footsteps of his mentor, Bill de Blasio, by saying, I will keep Jessica Tisch. The question is, if he should win, will Jessica Tish stay? I don't know. I don't have conversations with her. I've got my boots on the ground. I'm in the subways. I'm dealing with regular, average day, working class people. I'll let the elites determine that while I'm in the streets.

[Clay Travis]

Curtis Lewa with us right now, running Republican nominee for mayor of New York City. You mentioned right off the top that you'd been offered $10 million to drop out by billionaires. What do those offers look like? And will you tell us who's been offering for you to be paid to drop out of the race?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Yeah. Well, there were seven calls that I fielded from people I grew up with that are not supporting me. They're supporting Roma, which is fine, but they were calling on his behalf for me to drop out. And the last call, which my wife listened to, who is a attorney, Nancy, got to the point where I said, no, no, a thousand times no. And then he said, curtis, everybody has a price. $10 million is a lot of money to walk away from. I said, guy, you know me, I was born with Nothing. I'll die with nothing. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. This sounds to me unethical. It's a bribe. It could be illegal. And from that day forward, my wife said, look, you got to put everybody on blast that if they're going to talk to you about bribing you, you're going to be wired up like a Christmas tree, which I am now. And there've been no call since. Now, the people who reach me, their family people, they have businesses in the business of politics, which you know is the dirtiest business of all. Just ask the founder of ufc. He said the same thing, the dirtiest business. I give these guys a pass. They know not what they do, but anybody moving forward, hey, you're going to be prosecuted for obviously illegalities and for what are corrupted practices.

[Clay Travis]

Have you talked to Donald Trump? He has discussed your candidacy. He's talked about the fact that sometimes he wishes you would drop out because he's concerned about Mamdani becoming the mayor of New York City. Have you talked to Trump? What have those conversations been like?

[Curtis Sliwa]

No, I have not spoken to the president recently. For 40 years, I knew Donald Trump as a New Yorker. We had a love hate relationship like most people had with Donald Trump. I mean, you look at his vice president, J.D. vance, doing a great job. He called him Hitler in 2016, and now he's the vice president. So I've been on the roller coaster with Donald Trump. Like most people, he's not reached out to me. He's not talked to me. He certainly has had conversations with Andrew Cuomo and with Eric Adams, and the president is free to do what he wishes. I wish he would endorse me. He hasn't. But I've always said publicly, Mr. President, you're trying to get peace in the Middle east and Persian Gulf, that you're the only guy who can do that. You got to get peace between Russia and Ukraine. You're the only guy who can do that. He's dealing with Asia now and the Red Chinese menace. He's the only guy who can deal with that. Comparably to those bigger issues, do you think weighing in on the mayoral race in New York City is equal to those? I don't think so. And by the way, Zoran Mandami loves it because then he plays David to Goliath. He doesn't want to run against Andrew Cuomo or Curtis Levi. He wants to run against Donald Trump, who happens not to be very popular in New York City. He is around the country. He is in other parts of New York State. The benefit of my running and winning a mayoral election as a Republican is it's 1993 all over again. Rudy Giuliani won. I AM Rudy Giuliani 2.0. And next year we set it up the way it was in 94 when Pataky beat the better Cuomo Mario. And we had not only competence, no corruption, no chaos. Crime went down with Rudy and with Pataky. You elect me the Republican mayor and then we pull out all the stops to elect Congresswoman Elise Stefanik the governor next year Republican candidate. And we can return to the days of Giuliani and Pataky and send Kathy Hochul packing back to Buffalo.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, Curtis, real quick. We only have 30 seconds before we get into a heartbreak here. Where can people go? We got a big W or audience that want to mobilize for you. What's the site where? What do they do?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Just go to sleewa4nyc.com that sliwa f o r n y c.com thanks, guys.

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[Clay Travis]

You don't know what you don't know, right? But you could. On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome in, everybody. Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. We've got Congressman Byron Donalds with us. Congressman, appreciate you making the time, sir.

[Byron Donalds]

Good to be with you. How you doing?

[Buck Sexton]

Good. We got some national questions for you. We've got some Florida. I have some. Well, Clay actually is a Floridian in a sense too kind of honorary because he has property here. He lives on the Gulf of America part time. And then we will probably have some sports questions for you coming from Clay. So we will get to all of the above here momentarily. Let's start with the national level one though. You're in Congress, Congressman. That makes sense. I think everyone figured that part out. What the heck is the Democrat plan with the shutdown that now is about to shut off food stamps, has already cut into a cut off paychecks for military members. I know we had a Trump donor come in and make that shortfall disappear temporarily. What is their plan like, what's the end game here?

[Byron Donalds]

They don't have one. The rest of the country is coming to this realization very fast. They don't have a plan. These guys are trying to basically strong army, one of the toughest negotiators in the history of the planet and they're trying to strong arm him. They don't have a plan. They don't have a strategy. They figured if they just stood there long enough holding their breath that everybody would just buckle and yield to their view. A lot of these Democrats are using historical political views of how Democrats always win these shutdown fights, but they're not winning it. They're losing it by the day. They were given an opportunity to pay our military, to pay air traffic controllers, to pay TSA agents, to pay border agents and ICE agents and they voted no. They have no plan, they got no strategy. But the truth is they haven't had a plan for a long time. And that is because their policy sets are very radical. And they were totally fine leaving an auto pen in charge of the country if it meant that they got their way. And now that that's gone and Donald Trump is back, they don't know what to do. That's why this shutdown seems to, it seems to be a shutdown really about nothing except Chuck Schumer's leadership position.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Byron Donald's congressman, south Florida, soon to be, I believe, governor, state of Florida. Let's talk about the governor's race right now. Cause I know you are on the campaign trail right now. We're basically to Halloween. Happy Halloween everybody out there. You don't really have a viable challenger yet. That seems to me to be a very good position to be in. You've raised a lot of money. What should we know about the campaign and how it's going? What's the next step?

[Byron Donalds]

We're going county by county. And we're seeing the voters of Florida. And, you know, even though we still have our responsibilities in Washington, when I'm not in Washington, I'm in some city in Florida, some county in Florida, talking to the people. And, you know, we're very blessed to have President Trump's in full endorsement, Rick Scott's full endorsement. Obviously, fundraising has gone very well, but it's about seeing people day in, day out, and that's what we're committed to doing. So, you know, whoever else decides that they're going to run and jump in one, they got a lot of work to catch up on, and it's not going to be easy. We're going to work hard every single day to earn the votes of the people of Florida.

[Buck Sexton]

Congressman, you're running for governor, and I know that in many ways you would continue on with the policies and legacy of, of our Fantastic Governor Ron DeSantis. He's done a great job here. And as a Floridian, I really appreciate and I get to benefit from the decisions he's made. Governor DeSantis is very in favor of eliminating for homesteaded properties. Right. So people for whom it is their primary residence as Floridians property tax. Where did you come down on that proposal, which I believe is being put forward for the people of Florida to vote on in a ballot initiative this fall, next fall?

[Byron Donalds]

Well, look, I support what the governor's position has been about removing homestead property taxes on the people of Florida. The thing we have to make sure we do is when it comes to essential services that have historically been funded by those taxes, talking about sheriffs deputies, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, road construction, road maintenance, we just want to make sure that that stuff continues to be funded because that's critical to the very fabric of Florida. So I am fully supportive of it. I look forward to seeing the governor's proposal. I anticipate that's going to come out very, very soon to talk about not just the repeal, but then also the details around how do you fund some of those key initiatives like law enforcement, firefighters, emergency personnel. But I'm supportive, looking forward to seeing Tallahassee get this thing done and get it to the ballot so voters can make their voices heard next November.

[Clay Travis]

Congressman Byron Donald's with us right now, currently in Congress running for governor of Florida. When you. Look, we just been talking a lot about the mayor's race in New York City. If I remember correctly, you were born in New York City before you came down to the Sunshine State and made a life of it. There, how much do you pay attention to the national decisions that are being made and what their impact could be on the state of Florida? Because we've seen Governor Ron DeSantis talked quite a lot about the fact that many people in New York might decide to relocate to Florida with the higher taxes coming. Buck is one of them that's already done it. The president obviously did it. You did it long before you had any money, probably to speak of. What would be your message to people listening to us in New York right now that might be thinking, hey, if Mom Donnie is going to be coming in, maybe New York's not for me.

[Byron Donalds]

Well, the number one thing is if Mandani becomes the mayor and you feel you got to come to Florida, remember why you came here. Our state, we are a low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law and order is the baseline principle of our state, and that's not changing. And so as long as you come here understanding why you left New York and what Florida's about, then, yeah, we're all for it. I think on a broader level, yeah, I do pay attention to what's happening nationally. Obviously, my job as a congressman right now requires it. But the biggest thing we want to do is make sure that Florida remains the number one state in the country. And what we want to really see happen is that policies that are passed in Florida that have become really the bedrock of what's made Florida great, that other states look at that and say, you know what, we got to follow Florida's lead. Because if you're looking at New York, Illinois and California, they're dumpster fires. I mean, they're awful. And their people are leaving in droves. It's time for other states, with Florida in the lead, to adopt sound public policy that really puts people first, allows people to chase the American dream, whether that's Florida or some other state.

[Clay Travis]

If Mom Donnie wins and he's New York City mayor, we know AOC still going to be in Congress. Does Mom Donnie become a national face of the Democrat Party in your mind? Is he impactful in next year's midterm election? Buck and I have been debating that. To what extent do you think he is resonant then or relevant if he is the mayor of New York City?

[Byron Donalds]

Yeah, I do. I think he's going to be one of the national faces of that party. I mean, look, they're really struggling to find out who's in charge anyway. You know, everybody's trying to jockey for position. I think that he's Going to, you know, obviously his face and his name and what he says is going to carry a lot of weight in the Democrat Party because he's the mayor of New York. But look, I think from a political standpoint, I think he's terrible for the, for the country, he's awful for New York. And I think it's bad for Democrats because the public policy that these Marxists in the radical left wing side of their party, led by AOC and Mamdani and Bernie Sanders and that stuff is destructive. I think the policy sets are destructive. If somebody's a registered Democrat or registered Republican, that's one thing. But to be an out and out Marxist and really subscribing to policies that have never worked anywhere in the history of the planet, that's terrible for New York City. I think as a country, it's going to be something that everybody's going to be looking at and we have to learn that we cannot let these policies continue to flourish. And I mean, some places, like a Los Angeles, like a Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, their people are going to start demanding, I hope that they reverse course on these terrible policies that do not.

[Buck Sexton]

Work for people even sense. I know you're still in a primary. It's very early on, but what kind of a Democrat do you think the Florida Democrats are going to run against you, given how much this state has gotten more red under DeSantis tenure, are they going to try the head fake, moderate or somebody? You think that's going to be a little more on the, yeah, I'm a Democrat. Let's turn Florida into California and see what happens. But what's your expectation? Or do you just not even have any expectation because it's too early to know.

[Byron Donalds]

I don't really care. I mean, to be honest with you, Governor DeSantis, during his leadership, he's really put the Florida Democrat Party on life support. They're in a bad shape over there. They know they're in bad shape over there. I don't really care. We're focused on, number one, seeing the people of Florida, number two, making sure that the policy ideas that we're going to bring to build on top of the great success of Ron DeSantis and what's happened in Florida, that our state continues to flourish and that we prepare Florida for the next generation of growth. That's what we're focused on. Whatever the Democrats, whoever they choose to throw at us, that so be it, we'll take care of them too.

[Buck Sexton]

Can you also, one more just. Can you just make fun of the Vols or just say something to antagonize Clay on sports, please, for me, because I would do it, but I don't know enough.

[Byron Donalds]

No, I'm not going to do it. They actually look okay. They look better than mine, so I.

[Clay Travis]

Got to be quiet. He's definitely running for governor.

[Buck Sexton]

Look at how. Look at how diplomatic he is, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

No, I was. I was. Buck beat me to it. I was just going to say, what's up with your Seminoles? I went and watched them beat Alabama, and then I went and watched them get smoked by Miami. And y' all have lost four games in a row. I remember a couple of years ago, you came on and made the case for why you belong in the playoffs. I. I don't even know that you belong in the top half of the ACC right now. What's up?

[Byron Donalds]

Oh, my gosh, here we go. By the way, if you want to go back two years ago, yeah, we should have been in that playoff. I'm not going to bring it up again, but that was two years ago. Last year was a bad season. Started off great. Last four have not been good. The only thing I would say about the team is the games have been close. But, you know, Coach Norvell, he's got a lot of pressure on him. He's got to turn this thing around. That's just the way it is.

[Clay Travis]

It's really UF is going to do. By the way, you got an open job at uf, too. I'm sure you this. The governor basically fired the governor of Louisiana after they got whipped by Texas A and M. This is. I don't know if Buck even saw this. Jeff Landry, we need to get him back on. Jeff Landry was like, this is ridiculous. Like, Brian Kelly's out. You know, I don't know if you saw this, Byron. He tried to show up. Brian Kelly did, and his fingerprint didn't work to let. Let him in the building. That's not a good sign. All right, so the governor just said, this is a mess. Florida, I know you're a Florida State fan, but the University of Florida's got an opening, and that's going to be a huge hire, too. But I saw the governor of Louisiana weighed in. I was like, byron, he's a huge college football fan. You got a bunch of big programs there.

[Byron Donalds]

No, we do. I mean, look, there's a lot of names that are out there. You have the Notre Dame coach. He's been. He's been very good. He's been pretty good, very successful. I heard the rumors about Nick Saban. Is he coming out of retirement? I'm not sure. You know, I don't know if Nick likes the nil. I think that's probably a deal killer.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's true.

[Byron Donalds]

I don't think he likes it, but we'll see.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think about Lane Kiffin? How do you think Lane. Yeah, how do you think Lane would do at UF if he came?

[Byron Donalds]

Well, look, speaking as, speaking as somebody who's, who's trying to run for governor, I think Lane would be a very good choice for the Florida Gators. Speaking as a Florida State Seminole. No, they can do better than him.

[Clay Travis]

Byron, we appreciate you. What should people know who are out there listening all over Florida as many people do if they want to support your campaign, where should they go?

[Byron Donalds]

Just go to byron donalds.com really excited for everybody's support so far but it's all about the future of our state. We're going to take Florida to a whole nother level.

[Clay Travis]

Amen.

[Buck Sexton]

I love to hear it. Honestly. You got two guys that own property in Florida, one who lives here year round. We got to just keep Florida. Awesome, Byron, so I know that's your goal and that's what you're going to do as well. So God bless and thanks for making the time for us today.

[Byron Donalds]

Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

[Clay Travis]

Look, I want to tell Buck I've got some picks coming tomorrow. I think I've already actually given out the picks. Hold on, let me give you the picks. We've been on fire. We've been doing really well with price picks and you just heard Byron Donald's there. Buck, I think Byron Donald's gonna win. I think he's gonna win Florida so comfortably. Remember it wasn't even very long ago. I do think it's worth mentioning Remember 2018 when Ron DeSantis won Florida by 50,000 votes. I think it was.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

How far away does that seem? If you want to question how much a state can change in the space of eight years, basically we're going to go from Florida as the ultimate toss up state to. It's not even remotely close anymore and it's really pretty incredible to see how well that they have been able to build this. I've got a bunch of quarterbacks to Throw more than 1/2 of a touchdown for all of you. If you go to prizepix.com right now, prizepix.com code clay, you will get $50 when you play $5. You can play it in Florida. You can play it in Georgia. You can play it in Texas, California, Tennessee, 40 plus states out there. 13 million people have signed up and right now I am going to give you a pick that I hope is going to be a winner. Jackson Dart to Throw more than 1/2 of a Touchdown Jackson dart more than 1/2 of a touchdown I'll give these to you again tomorrow but I want to make sure that everybody has them to a to Throw more than 1/2 of a touchdown. That is tomorrow night down in South Florida with the game between the Dolphins and and the Baltimore Ravens. Bo Nix to throw more than one half of a touchdown and C.J. stroud to throw more than 1/2 of a touchdown. When that hits, that pays out at nearly three to one. You can play along with us at prizepix.com code clay that is pricepix.com code clay $50 when you play $5. You know them as conservative radio hosts. Now just get to know them as guys on the Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck. Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

And then also add on, Kamala wasn't the best candidate, but she wasn't surprised by how it went for Kamala because she was a black woman. And unless you're a black woman, you can't even understand how difficult it is to be a black woman in America today. Over and over again, in response to some of these questions, too.

[Buck Sexton]

And so Katie Miller decided she had had enough of this. She was with CNN's Jake Tapper last night. And I just want you to listen to this. This is, this is just saying it, just letting it, letting it be said on the airplay.

[Clay Travis]

She is just another evidence that DEI doesn't work, whether that's in the White House in your press secretary role or whether that's a, you know, an air traffic controller, an air pilot, whether that's your doctor, you know, you don't you want to hire the best for the role, not just based on skin color.

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Jake, why did she get the job over John Kirby?

[Clay Travis]

She had the job long before John Kirby. I will just say she used to be a commentator on cnn, then she.

[Buck Sexton]

Was one on msnbc.

[Clay Travis]

And she was good at that. Like, I mean, without getting into the job I thought she did as press secretary. It didn't seem crazy to me because she was eloquent as a commentator. Why is she trained every four Sentences to say, she is a black queer LGBTQ woman.

[WashablesOfAs.com Announcer]

Because that's how she's been promoted her entire career.

[Buck Sexton]

Anyway, Katie Miller and Karen Finney, thank you so much. Can I just get a job? That is exactly. I mean, she's just saying the thing that we all know, which is that this woman built a career on being a black lesbian. And that is the primary thing that she says in every interview. And. And that now she's independent. She says she's not even a Democrat anymore. That has been her calling card in the media and in politics. And maybe she actually wasn't the best person for the job. This is what Katie Miller is saying. And it's funny to watch Jake Tapper like, ok, let's just, let's get out of here.

[Clay Travis]

Here's what I would say. And once you think about it, you will not be able to not see it. I've said, I've said on the show before, I think for the Democrat Party, your race and your sexuality, your identity is sword and shield. But go back in time and pretend that instead of saying as a black gay woman or as a, you know, trans Hispanic person, like, they all give that to you as a prelude. It is the modern day royalty. Think about it, Buck. You know, back in the day when they used to talk about the divine right of kings, when the king decreed something, he would begin his decree by saying, as the 8th Royal Viscount of the Sheriff of Nottingham.

[Buck Sexton]

I think we say viscount. I don't think we pronounce the S, do we?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I don't know. I've never actually heard anybody pronounce it.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe all of the royalty. All of the royalty is the precedence to the action as a divine right of king. As your noble background. You use your identity to. To justify your opinion. That's all that Democrats do. Now. They start off their opinion as Karine Jean Pierre is just one of the worst versions of it by saying, as a black gay woman, I believe, why do I care about your race or your sex?

[Buck Sexton]

This is reminding me. Just because you guys, people, one of the questions we get a lot. We got it. We were in.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Whoa, whoa.

[Buck Sexton]

And thank you to all in wo Woe land. Fort Wayne, Indiana. And we were out there recently. But one of the questions we get a lot is, you know, show prep. And I always say show prep is all the time. We're constantly sending our team and Clay and I are texting each other ideas and thoughts and everything. And one thing I said to you guys, I just thought this is amazing. So Josh Barrow is a journalist and he's a Democrat, but he's like one of these guys. He's a little bit in the. Who's the guy who's very solid on the First Amendment. Wrong. A lot of other things. But, you know, I'm talking about Greenwald. He's a little bit like a Green. Yeah, he'll actually call balls and strikes on certain things in the world. And I actually did Bill Maher show with Josh Barrow once. So he's. He's a high iq, reasonable guy. You can reason with him. Right. And he shared this and it's the 202012 Democrat Party. I'm not going to read the whole thing. Versus the Democrat Party platform. Sorry. The Democrat party platform in 2012 versus Clay in 2024. 2012. Today, our economy is growing. Al Qaeda is weaker than any point since 9 11. A manufacturing sector is growing. We need to come together, continue what we started, reclaim the basic bargain for the largest middle class on earth, yada, yada, yada. You know, America is great. We have principles. Like actually pretty. You can argue with whether that's what the Democrat Party really stood for then or whatever. But at least, you know, they're going through this Democrat Party 2024 platform. The DNC wishes to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values on lands that have been stewarded through centuries by the ancestors and descendants of tribal nations who have been here since time immemorial. Like, like we're not imagining that these people have gone nuts, ok? They have gone nuts.

[Clay Travis]

This is a real thing.

[Buck Sexton]

And they no longer can make coherent arguments. They live in a fantasy land. I think this is another big story. Bill Gates. Bill Gates is kind of like, well, you know, actually we don't think that climate change is an existential threat anymore. You don't say, Mr. Globalist Extraordinaire, climate change is going to kill everybody, start eating bugs, doesn't matter if it gives you man boobs. He is now saying, climate change is not an existential threat. Kind of like you and me and everybody listening right now was right about this the whole time. Clay, these people are insane.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. When you talked about the land acknowledgement, it reminded me of the study that came out, mentions of men in the 2012 versus 2024 Democrat primary, Democrat platform fell by 63%, fathers fell by 100% and responsibility fell by 83%. Meanwhile, the references to LGBTQ rights increased 1044%. So they have written out men. They have written out fathers from the Democrat platform and they have 10 times the reference to gay people and trans rights. And so you're not making it up. I mean, the difference in just 12 years between the actual platform of Barack Obama 2012 and Kamala Harris 2024 is. It's not even in the same ballpark. It's frankly a completely different party.

[Buck Sexton]

And also, we're in an era now where you're allowed to say things without real fear of cancellation, and you're just allowed to say things that are manifestly and obviously true. And to bring it back to the Karine Jean Pierre situation for a minute, here is somebody who we are told is important because she is black and LGBTQ and has the following job and that those were important qualifications for that job, but you better not say that in any way she was helped in getting that job because she is black and lgbtq. That is a. That is a, an impossible proposition to square. That makes no sense. This has been true, by the way, of all affirmative action plans. This has been true of all these different racial set asides and racial entitlement things in America that we've all had to suffer through for decades, being lied to and told. You have to celebrate this and you can't talk about it at the same time, or this is why we're doing it and you're not allowed to say it out loud. I knew a guy at a law firm, almost lost his job because he said at a diversity hiring event, well, it's great we're getting so much diversity going here. Someone didn't like the way he said it and he almost got fired from his job. Now, this was many years ago, but things like, you can't say, I like diversity at the diversity hiring event. Clay, if you're a white guy, people might think you said it kind of funny. Well, that was the America that we were living in pre Trump.

[Clay Travis]

I think we still are because it's the foundation of the Democrat Party and it's sword and shield. To me, that's an easy way to distill it because they're allowed to wield it as a sword to attack you. She can say, I'm black and gay all the time, but as soon as you say any reference to her being black and gay, the shield comes up and that is not able to be referenced by you. And so you can both attack and defend based on it, but you were not allowed to be attacked or in any way referenced it by others.

[Buck Sexton]

A perfect example of this is Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who we were told by Joe Biden. I'm definitely hiring. I mean, we've talked about this many times on the show. Definitely hiring, not hiring. Appointing a black woman on the Supreme Court. So that cuts down. That's 97% of people in America. Or not 97. It's maybe a little less than that.

[Clay Travis]

No, no, it's about 97% of lawyers because only about 3% of lawyers are black women.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you. So it is not so 97% of people are out of the pool of possibles right away. That skews in a pretty significant fashion what you're going to be looking at in terms of actual legal qualifications. Cognitive abilities, wisdom, career, all that stuff. Right. And yet they'll say we have to give it to a person with these qualifications, but you're not allowed to say that those qualifications were necessary for the job. That is cognitive dissonance that we do not have to live through or should not have to live through anymore. Yeah, you're right. The Democrats still are on this, Clay, but the culture has shifted. You can say these things now. I mean, listen to what Katie Miller said on cnn. I mean, she was. She was just laying it out there. One more thing while. While we have this. This is kind of like the grab bag. I'm doing a whole bunch of things at once. Where is the. It's not going so well for Kamala. Cut. Which one?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, Here we go.

[Buck Sexton]

CNN's Abby Phillip talking to the Breakfast Club with Mr. The God and the rest of the crew there. Here is cut five. Listen to this one.

[Clay Travis]

What does she do this summer? Runner? Should she even run again? You know, I've been talking to a.

[Buck Sexton]

Lot of people about that because, as.

[Clay Travis]

You know, this book was very controversial.

[Buck Sexton]

And it was even more controversial than you think.

[Clay Travis]

I loved it.

[Buck Sexton]

In private.

[Clay Travis]

In private.

[Buck Sexton]

I think there's a lot of controversy around it because I think that there are a lot of bridges that are burned here, whether she wanted to or not. And I think it will be very difficult for her to mend those fences that she'll need in order to run if she just decide to run again.

[Clay Travis]

I think this book read kind of.

[Buck Sexton]

Like somebody who was kind of done with it. So I will be interested to see if she decides to do it.

[Clay Travis]

Reads.

[Buck Sexton]

As a commologist, I can tell you it does read like someone who is bitter and possibly done with it. Clay. Even though you would think it would be. Rehabilitate the image so that there can be a round two run for Kamala Harris in 2028.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I think she's going to run because I did not, thankfully have to read this book. But there is nothing else for which she is going to spend time. She just turned 60. She is not a mom. I know she's a stepmom. It's different than being a mom. She's not a grandma. I don't think she particularly likes her husband Doug. I don't think she wants to kick her feet up and just be a professor, you know, a president of a university.

[Buck Sexton]

You better watch what you say there or Doug might give you a little chin music there, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

You know, look, Doug's been known to slap around women. I don't think he's been known to slap around men very much. So I I like my chances with Doug, let me tell you. We'll come back and we'll play a couple more of your cuts. But in the meantime, Personal Loan Company Prosper data breach 17 million users info involved Names, addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, partial Social Security numbers. It gets out there. You know it. Every single week there's more of them. Cyber threats everywhere. Which is why you need LifeLock. LifeLock will monitor hundreds of millions of data point a second for identity threats, which is way more than anyone can do on their own. And Lifelock will alert you right away if anything pops up. If you become a victim of identity theft, you will get your own restoration specialist who will fix that. Identity theft guaranteed or your money back. Your protection backed by Lifelocks million dollar protection package. Start protecting your identity today with a 30 day free trial at 1-800-LIFELOCK. You can also go online to lifelock.com use My Name Clay as the promo code for 30 days free lifelock.com promo code CLAY for 30 day free 30 days free terms apply. Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history. On the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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