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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome in Friday Edition. Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck is still in Taiwan. He may be flying back. That's a long trip. I'm not sure exactly where he is, but I know he interviewed the president of Taiwan and he will be playing that for you on Monday. I'm sure telling you much about what he has learned in his overseas trip. Trip. We have got a loaded show with you. There's a ton of different breaking news stories that we are going to be tracking during the course of today's show. Of course, the shutdown is still ongoing. The stock market does not care some positivity to start off the day on Friday. Record highs across the board in the stock market again. So if you are out there and you just bought S&P 500 index funds and you've said, I don't know what the politicians are gonna do, but I'm just gonna invest in American companies, congratulations, you have got more money than you ever have had in the history of your 401k. The stock market has continued to set new highs over the past year. And remember it was only back in April that all of the experts told you that the economy was collapsing because of the decisions that President Trump had made instead of Tom. Go ahead, learn it. They were wrong. The Dow to a record high today as we are all talking the NASDAQ to a record high and the S&P 500 all to record highs along with many of the stocks out there, including nearly although it's come back down a little bit. Tesla, remember when Mike Walls, sorry, Tim Walls, whatever the heck his name is, the governor of Minnesota held up his phone and said, boy, does anybody else get really excited when they see that Elon Musk Co. Stock is going down. Yeah, good move. I hope you sold all your stock. You because Tesla has continued to set new highs as we are rolling through the early days of fall. So that is going on. Memphis, I love this. I, I, I, I do think that if this were a city where people paid more attention to from a media perspective, the fact that the Trump administration has gone into Memphis, the fact that many of the leaders of Memphis have said, hey, we really need the help, crime is out of control. You heard some of our callers yesterday from the Memphis area. One of the things you learn, I know Rush talked about the drive by media all the time. If it happens in New York city or Washington D.C. or LA, there are tons of media there with microscopes basically just leaning right over and looking at every little minute detail if it happens in the middle part of the country. And I say this as a guy who's lived in the middle part of the country pretty much my entire life, oftentimes people don't pay attention to it. And so the fact that we actually have a partnership going on in Memphis designed to drive down the murder rate in a city that per capita has one of the highest murder rates in the country is actually an incredibly successful and positive story. Of course not getting very much attention at all. There is to a large degree, as we enter, I think it's day three of the of the shutdown, there is also sort of a recognition setting in. I think the Democrats have no idea what they want to do and they have no real message. And there are a bunch of things I want to talk about with that, by the way, also, ICE protests outside of a facility in Portland have spiraled out of control. There was a, a reporter arrested who is getting a lot of attention. They are now investigating somehow the Portland police can't investigate anyone but this guy who saved a would be burning American flag and was there reporting on it. He is going to join us. Nick Sorter is his name. He's going to join us at 10:05 Pacific. That is 105 on the east Coast. He is out in Portland. So we're going to talk about what he is seeing on the ground. I know we have a lot of you out in the Pacific Northwest, refugees in many ways you feel like from the insanity out there that listen to this program. So we will be talking with Nick about that. But I wanted to start with this idea because I saw our friend Ryan Garduski share a data point that some of you may have also seen out there. And he said, hey, the only place that's having babies is Trump voting areas. And that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But here is Gardusky's headline and I was reading it this morning as I was getting ready. Among the counties with the highest fertility rate so far in 2025, all of them voted for Donald Trump. 60.5% of the babies born in 2025 so far were in states that voted for Trump in the last election and he dives into the data. And I was thinking about this because my assistant Katie had her baby girl and we went to go visit Annie who is one day old and I got to hold a one day old baby and I forgot I had three one day old babies at one point in my household, but I just forgot how small they are. And her in laws were there and she's doing great. And this is her second baby. And everybody's very excited. And if you are fortunate enough to have kids or grandkids that have recently joined your family, you know that feeling of just optimism and excitement. And we talked about this on the program because Bucks got a six month old. And it's hard not to be optimistic about the future and also committed to building a better future when you have a baby in your arms. And I was thinking about this in the context of the government shutdown and putting all this together as I was doing my reading and getting ready for the show today. And I was thinking about what is the message that Democrats are selling such that the most ardent of all Democrat supporters have decided that they should not have children, that kids are too much of a drain on the climate, that we are headed for some form of apocalyptic future. And if you add children to the mix, that somehow you are making things worse and you are throwing them basically into the proverbial boiling pot and there's no hope. And I was thinking about that in the context of the shutdown. And I think one of the real challenges that the Democrat Party has is not that its messaging is being unheard, it's that its message is being heard. And it's so profoundly dark that even the people who buy into the message are making decisions that are worse than if they never listened to the message at all. This is a big picture analysis, but I think it all kind of ties together. If you're not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I don't believe in the future. I don't buy into the idea that humanity is going to lead us to a better place. And I think it ties in with one of the questions that we asked that was so important in the aftermath of Trump's big win in November that so many of you and us all contributed to it was, what is the Democrat Party going to do with this? They had two options. They could look in the mirror and they could say, the nation heard our message and they overwhelmingly rejected it. Or they could argue, as Kamala Harris is now doing in her book 107 Days, which Buck is reading and I cannot wait to hear his review of. Or they could argue, as Kamala Harris did, we just didn't have enough time. Our message didn't get out there. It wasn't able to be heard by the American public. And Democrats are still focused on number two. They're focused on the message not being heard loud enough. But I think that's profoundly wrong. I think the message of what they are selling is being heard and rejected and it's being rejected by huge swaths of the population, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, reasonable, common sense, family oriented voters out there across the nation of a wide variety of backgrounds. Remember, all 50 states move towards Trump in 2024. But it's not just that their message is being rejected by the American voter. It's that the people that are hearing their message and acting on it are actually making worse decisions for their lives. Think about that for a moment, because I don't know that we've ever really lived in an era where something like that could happen. Democrats that are the most committed, the most left wing in the country, they are hearing what their party is arguing and they are saying, things are so bad now, America is so awful that I don't want to bring children into this country. They are hearing what Democrats are arguing and they are saying, we have to kill President Trump because he is Hitler. They are hearing what Democrats are arguing and they are saying, we have to go kill Charlie Kirk. We can't argue against his message. His words are violence that we have to answer with violence of our own. They're burning down churches, they're going into schools and they are killing innocent children at Christian schools in Minneapolis and in Nashville. They're trying to show up and kill Supreme Court Justices because they're concerned about what their rulings are going to do on the Roe v. Wade issue. You stitch all this together and the nation, thankfully, is rejecting the arguments being made by the Democrat Party. But the shutdown is being led by the far left of this party. The part of the party that is just angry and just demands that there be conflict and confrontation. And yet that element of the party is toxic and sick and it's now infecting not only their political beliefs, but it's impacting in a very negative way the larger society around them, such that if you voted for Kamala Harris, you don't want to have kids. Now, long range, this is a very self defeating proposition because as Ryan Gardusky is saying in 2025, if 60.5% of kids are being born in Trump states and if Trump counties are overwhelmingly seeing population growth, well, this is a lot of babies being born for freedom. And the overall structural problems that confront the Democrat Party actually are profoundly more challenging going forward because theoretically those families are going to raise their kids to be proud of America and to support freedom and to support the overall American way of life. But as they fall further behind and as their worldview becomes darker and more nihilistic, I think we have to all prepare ourselves for way more violence. And I don't think all of this has been put together necessarily. And a lot of people have thought about it. But the next census is going to basically make it impossible for Democrats to win a presidential election. No one is talking about this, but the only way Kamala could have won in 2024 was by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. And she came about 220,000 votes ish away from winning those states. If she had, she would have won the electoral college 270 to 268. 2028, we still have the existing census that's broken and didn't get things correct. 2032, that pathway is gone forever because way more electoral votes are shifting to the red states. And even if the Republican candidate in 2032 lost the so called blue wall of the Midwest, which I'm skeptical would happen, but even if that happened, that wouldn't be a pathway for the Democrat Party to win. Sooner or later they have to come down to the south and they have to start winning Southern states where I live. And I just don't think that's going to happen from a cultural perspective. I think those states where I live are all moving redder in a rapid fashion. And so this awful worldview that they are selling that leads right now to the government being shut down. And they don't really have any argument for why it needs to be shut down. They're just angry. They this awful worldview that does not create babies like the baby I just went to go see does not create optimism, does not create American ingenuity and an embrace of the human spirit and just basic optimism. It's leading the Democrat Party to a very dark place where unfortunately, I think we have to prepare ourselves for more Charlie Kirks. Because it's not that the Democrat message isn't being heard, it's being heard and rejected by sane people all across the United States, which is why all 50 states move towards Trump. But it's particularly being heard by the toxic base of the Democrat Party. And they are acting out in an angry fashion because the dark dystopian vision that is being shared by the Democrat Party is now motivating direct acts of political violence and just outrageous attacks on the idea of government even being open itself when there's nothing that they're even arguing for. It's just a anger, a lash out, the petulant fit of a child. That's where we are. And I think it's important to put all these things together and recognize where that's going to lead us. So that's what I was thinking about this morning. We'll take some of your calls, take some of your talk backs. We only have one guest as we try to get as many of your reactions in as we can on a Friday morning here as we head into the weekend. And I want to tell you maybe you're out there and you want to prepare. It looks like I knocked on wood. We're going to have a relatively relatively so far quiet. I hope it continues hurricane season, but tornadoes are going to be coming back through. 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I think it's frankly just that the lingering impact of how awful, awful Biden's economic picture was is hard to get past because a lot of you still feel, and I feel it when I buy things too, that things just all cost too much and it's going to take years for the rapid increase in prices that occurred during Biden's era to actually normalize itself out. The reality is we need probably five years of 2%, two and a half percent inflation in order for us to kind of normalize and get used to the rapid increase in prices that occurred during the Biden administration. And other than oil and gas, which the prices have come back down and that's a more fluctuating commodity price. The reality is once you have embedded inflation, prices don't come back down. They don't ever go negative. So the, the reason I think there is a disconnect between what is rapidly becoming a very strong economy and what still feels frustrating every time you buy something is I just, I don't think most people out there really understood how bad Biden managed the economy. And I wasn't alive back then, or at least was so young, I certainly had no impressions. My bet is those of you who lived through the rapid inflation of the 1970s, pricing normalcy didn't really return to you until the second term of Ronald Reagan, where Finally, the rapid price increases that occurred during Jimmy Carter's tenure came back down to a form of normalcy. Now I mentioned off the start of the program about the fact that Democrat message was being heard. And they recognize that it's hard to stand for left wing policies because those left wing policies actually end up costing everyone. New York City is going to bear the cost of this because there is an articulate and charismatic and young and attractive socialistic candidate that is saying things that people want to hear without understanding any of the economic realities that underpin this. Remember, Zoran, Madame said the way to deal with higher grocery prices is for the city of New York to be in charge of groceries. Let me just tell you something. There has never been a successful city or state sponsored grocery in the history of mankind that I'm aware of. This is what they do in Cuba. So the idea that suddenly things are going to get cheaper if a much more inefficient method of bringing produce and bringing product to the city is going to be put in place is madness. And many of you out there understand this because you understand basic business. And the reality is there are very few businesses on the planet that have a lower profit margin than grocery stores. We're talking about grocery stores making 1,2%. They sell a lot of product, but it's a volume based business with very tiny margins. So the idea that you're going to be able to somehow cut into the profit margins of grocery stores and make way more money is frankly bonkers. It's insane. It's a form of, of, of just absolute madness, which unfortunately has overtaken, as I laid out, much of the left in this country. But Momdani is an eloquent advocate for awful policies. And I, I saw this and I said I should share this because sometimes you guys complain. I don't know why you talk about culture so much. Tell me more about how the flat tax intersects with the, the larger tax geopolitical ramifications of a Bering street energy pipeline and how that's going to. Okay, you can talk super specific policy. Super specific policy doesn't win elections. I'm sorry, it doesn't. You have to tap into the culture. And I saw this and I said, this is how Mom, Donnie's doing it. The Bachelor is back on air. Ok, the Bachelor, you may not watch. I think it's the Golden Bachelor. Now this is an old guy meeting with older women and it's wildly popular in pop culture. And Zoran Momdani made a New York City ad that aired during the Bachelor this week. And this is what you would have heard. And so for those of you have ever watched the Bachelor, the concept of the show is at the end of the show, a host. A Bachelor at 2 is a version of this. Gives the contestants a rose if they get to continue to compete to. To win the true love of the Bachelor or the Bachelorette. Momdani speaks the language of young, disaffected voters. It's important you go where they are. You don't ask them to come where you are. And this is the ad he ran. I think it's ridiculous. I think it's absurd. Guess what? It works.
Clay Travis
Listen, you deserve better.
Buck Sexton
You deserve to be able to raise.
Clay Travis
Your family here to be safe, to.
Buck Sexton
Travel where you need to, free of costs and worry. You deserve someone who works as hard as you do, who thinks about you every second of the day. That's the kind of mayor I promise to be. New York, will you accept this rose? Okay, I get it. A lot of you are rolling your eyes. Producer Ali was so mad when I sent her that, she said, oh, it works. The reason he's gonna win is he's glib. He connects on the culture. He's good on social media. He's handsome on Instagram. He's good at cutting through the noise because, oh, he watches the Bachelor, too. He's giving us a rose. How bad of a guy could he be? He's gonna make my rent lower, and he's going to build grocery stores, and I'm going to be able to get all of my hair care products and all of my face cream so much cheaper. He's so great. I love Zoran Mamdani. That works. It works. You have to go where people are, and you have to confront them. These girls saw that ad, and they're like, oh, he's where we are. He's watching the Bachelor, too. He's gonna make my. I don't know. I don't even know what people buy face. He's gonna make. I buy books, and I buy, like, Kirkland products at Costco. So I'm not very good at thinking about how everything's gonna be cheaper. He's gonna make my ugg boots. That's popular with the girls, right? He's gonna make my ugg boots so much cheaper. Oh, my God. He's so amazing. Like. Like. Like. You think this is crazy. I'm telling you, this Bachelor ad is echoing all through. All through this young voting public which overwhelmingly thinks socialism works. See, one of the challenges of capitalism is it so good that people start to take for granted how good it is. This is true of anything in life that is really great. At some point in time. You forget how important it is to have solid foundational values in place. Because solid foundational values work so well that you can start to think, hey, what if, what if we just didn't care about this anymore? The ultimate flaw of capitalism is capitalism works so well, people start thinking that other forms of government might work too. All these kids that are mostly having their rent paid for by mom and dad living in New York City because they can't afford their own rent. They have no economic basis in reality whatsoever. But momdani looks like the kind of person that they think should be their politician. This is how Kamala's entire career happened. Kamala Harris was smart enough to realize, hey, you know, the average left wing California voter wants someone who looks like me to be in a position of prominence in this state. And she rode that almost all the way to the White House. I'm not sure what Kamala Harris has ever done well in her entire life, but she looks like the kind of person that makes rich white women feel better about themselves in California. And she can win an election based on it. Mom Donnie looks like the kind of person that rich white liberals want to represent them in New York City and, and then he shows up at the places that they care about and he's conversant in the pop culture language. And you may think it's ridiculous that this 34 year old socialist Ugandan outta nowhere is suddenly showing up with a rose telling New York City that he should be their mayor, but according to the gambling markets, right now he's at 90% likelihood to win. He's really good at marketing himself. He's got a genius for selling the product and the product is him. And it's awful. And everything that he supports is wrong. But there is no alternative for him in New York City right now. And I got to give him credit because again, a lot of you are going to say, oh, this is cringe. Oh, this is ridiculous. You're not the target. You're not the target. Everybody who watches the Bachelor, I bet the Bachelor in New York City, I bet the people watching the Bachelor in New York City vote Democrat 9010. It's an overwhelmingly young female audience. They see mom Donnie with that rose, their hearts melt. Oh, look at that handsome guy. This is the kind of guy I would like to date. Oh, he'll take care of the city just like he would take care of me and they go vote for him. And then meanwhile, a bunch of people who don't understand how to compete in the modern cultural wars are just sitting around like I don't know, who cares about the Bachelor? You know, we did just elect the most successful Republican 21st century political candidate with a landslide election, who is famous to a large extent because he was on a reality television show. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump. People get mad sometimes when he comments on Taylor Swift getting engaged or when he comments on what the NFL kickoff rules are. You go to people where they are and that's how you win. And mom Donnie showing up on the frickin Bachelor. I don't know that any politicians ever done an ad like this before. And it's going to work. And New York City is in trouble because Curtis Lewa and Andrew Cuomo, neither one of whom has a chance at all of winning, are both going to end up in a. What's, what's it like when you're. It reminds me of like a, a fight where you're both wrestling and you're sinking underground. You're both just going to drown and the guy's just sitting in the boat, not even having to get in a fight with you. You're both wrestling with each other as you slowly sink underwater to see who can do the best job to come in second place. And the guy who's going to win is just sitting up there in the boat with a rose between his teeth, just kicking his feet up and enjoying the boat ride. That's kind of the metaphorical sense of what I have for where New York City is headed. 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But right now we head up to the Pacific Northwest to Portland, Oregon, and we are joined by Nick Sorter, who was arrested last night in the midst of all the chaos outside the ICE facility in Portland where President Trump has said we need to send in reinforcements and where the leaders of the state of Oregon have claimed there is no need whatsoever for that to occur. So, Nick, I just want to give you the floor here. I want you to tell everyone what happened to you. Just walk me through and walk us through your experiences last night.
Clay Travis
I appreciate you guys having me here. And it's still surreal thinking about this, about how this all went down last night. You know, I said a couple of days ago on X that if this city is so messed up that if I were to defend myself, I would be arrested while my assailant would get away. And that's exactly what happened here. I have every right. These people don't understand this. I have every right as a journalist to be on the sidewalk and record what's going on in public. No matter how much they whine, scream and cry about it, I have every right to do so. And these Antifa thugs, they've been able to get away with physical violence for so long now that they feel empowered to harass you, to hit you, to break your equipment, and sometimes even Mace you. The amount of times I had mace thrown in my face this week has been crazy. Like, I'm surprised I still have vision and nothing is ever done about any of that, ever. It's when I try to defend myself after 10 people gang up on me and throw me in a flower pit, that that's when the police decide, okay, we're gonna actually do something for once. So all these theories that we've had about how Antifa has pretty much infiltrated the Portland Police department or that Antifa has them by the balls. It's just, it was confirmed true last night. I mean, this goes to show that the conspiracy theories, quote, unquote, were true. And, you know, it's not going to intimidate me. It's not going to stop me. If anything, I'm going to be more aggressive with it because now we've got the DOJ involved. Now we've got, you know, national headlines about, about this. The six hours in jail was really worth it for what I think is going to come out of Portland, Oregon now.
Buck Sexton
Okay, let me, let me dive in a couple of things that happened last night. You witnessed them trying to burn a American flag last night, and you stepped in to save the flag, and that certainly antagonized them as well, correct?
Clay Travis
Absolutely. Yeah. That's when they started following me around. I was talking to somebody on the other side of the sidewalk. I saw them set the flag on fire. So I walked over there and I grabbed it, I yanked it out of his hand and put the fire out, and I actually took the flag. I still have the flood. And I immediately went and I guess about 10, I handled it for about 10 minutes, and then I brought it to my car and put it in my car. And, you know, I don't feel bad about that. I'm sorry. If somebody got their feelings hurt that I put the flames out of the American flag, I'm not going to apologize for that. And I would do it again in a heartbeat. So I knew that I was. I was risking, you know, getting my butt whooped by these people by doing that. But at the time, I just, I didn't care because it's what needed to be done. I'm so sick of watching these people just desecrate our flag and crap on our country, especially when these same people are, you know, they're waving foreign flags while burning the American flag. I'm fed up with it, as are most Americans.
Buck Sexton
What were you charged with? Have you officially been charged with anything? I know you were arrested and you were held for several hours. What, what charges are you facing?
Clay Travis
So it took them an hour to figure out what to charge me with. They had me in the back of the patrol car sitting on the side of the road while they had. Because they basically were like, okay, yeah, we want to take him into custody, but we don't know what for yet. So we're. We'll figure it out as we go. So they arrested me, put me in the back of the car. They started driving around. They Pulled over randomly and, and got out of the car so they could talk to their lieutenant without me hearing it. And that's when they decided they were going to charge me with disorderly conduct. And naturally I was like, okay, disorderly conduct. Like, okay, what did I do? Tell me what I did. And they're like, oh, well, we don't know that information. We just know that you're being charged with disorderly conduct. So it took until after I was out of jail to see what the official narrative was because disorderly conduct can mean disorderly conduct. Two in Oregon can mean either blocking road, blocking a sidewalk or fighting. And I'm like, okay, well the Antifa terrorists are doing the first two, you know, constantly on a rolling basis. They're always blocking it, always blocking the sidewalks, and every other minute they're fighting each other. None of them are ever charged with this crime. Just me. Is that a coincidence or was I targeted?
Buck Sexton
You were called already, I believe by the Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bondi. What did she tell you? What was that conversation?
Clay Travis
That was, that was pretty incredible phone call to get this morning from Attorney General Bondi on her cell phone calling me and telling me that she was immediately ordering Parmeet Dylan, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights to launch a full investigation into the Portland Police Bureau to. Because like this is, this isn't a one off situation. This happens frequently to. It's just. The difference is this time I have a platform, right? How many other victims of this police department are there? I would argue that half of Portland are victims of this police department from their lack of action, from their support for Antifa and so that was really good. If you know anything about Harmeet Dhillon, I'm telling you, that part excited me the most. Putting Harmeet Dhillon on this. Portland isn't ready for what's coming. I'm just saying.
Buck Sexton
Why do you think this has been allowed to occur for so long? Because Portland is a great city. I don't, I don't know where your home base is, but it is a jewel of America if you just consider natural beauty. It had been and long had been a thriving place, but it was safe, right? Like it might be left leaning, but it wasn't a violent place. There were not very many murders. The city was safe. Now the downtown is a mess. And I know we've got a ton of people listening to us right now on 1190 KEX in the Portland area. This all kind of went to hell, starting with the George Floyd protest. And it has continued for, for a long time left, left wing politicians will say antifa is not a thing. What would you say to those people? What would you say to anyone out there who's saying, oh, antifa, that's not really anything to be concerned.
Clay Travis
Yeah, well that's, that's a Joe Biden era talking point. Right. Because you know, they, they don't want to. At the end of the day, these, these far left Democrats are really, I mean, hell, the leaders of the Democrat party at this point. Ohan Omar and Jasmine Crockett and aoc, they're never going to condemn these people. Right. They actually support the message that they're getting. So the, the saying that antifa is just an idea, I mean, come down here and talk to any of them on the street. It's an organized group. They have subgroups too. Like the one here is Rose City Antifa. It's an organized group, an organized effort. So I mean, it's just blatantly false to say that it's just an idea and not an organization. I don't even know. But I mean that's pretty much the modern day Democrat party at this point to just blatantly lie to your face.
Buck Sexton
Let me ask you this, you don't.
Clay Travis
Think anything else of it?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, no, I think that's totally true. We're talking to Nick Sorter who has done incredible sort of on the ground journalism surrounding these protests in Portland. What do you think of the police force in Portland? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I meet officers all over the country and they say, hey, you're, you know, we listen to the show, we agree with you on everything. When you got arrested, did anybody say, hey man, I agree with you, I got to stay undercover a little bit. Do you think the Portland police as a group have been basically taken over by left wing activism and that's why they're not arresting? Or do you think the police force recognizes how much a BS this is, but they're being led from above and not allowed to actually make the community safe? What's going on in your mind with the culture of the Portland police as it pertains to these protests?
Clay Travis
I'm going to be totally honest with you and I'm not going to have any disrespect for the officers that arrested me yesterday. But they had a very tough time figuring out how to write a police report. It's like they just never do it anymore. And that's probably true. They are. I was, when I was there for that six hours, three People came into the jail, the jail houses. It's the only one in Portland, in all of Portland. And three people came in. In a major American city overnight. They're not arresting anybody. They're not arresting anybody. And there was an officer that, from a neighboring jurisdiction that was there with me yesterday. He was. He had left right before this entire thing went down, but he was providing security for me. And he went up to some of the officers there in Portland and said, you guys have no shame. You should resign in disgrace. You should not be following these BS orders, orders that you know are BS because they're told to stand down constantly. You have these quote unquote liaison officers that stand there. Bill Melujian posted a video of me being assaulted by these antifa thugs the other day. And you can see in the background these officers just standing there watching, doing nothing.
Buck Sexton
Because what do you think?
Clay Travis
Oh, we're just following orders.
Buck Sexton
What do you think would happen, Nick?
Clay Travis
Way too much of a patriot to just follow orders like that and watch, you know, people get beaten. The street, like, I'm sorry, I'm not going to follow that order.
Buck Sexton
If you have President Trump, the White House, you mentioned you talked with Pam Bondi. What should they do to take control of Portland streets? Because it sounds like the governor's not going to allow it. It sounds like the mayor's not going to allow it. But I know there's a lot of people out there that are listening to us right now in Portland that are just saying, much like with what happened with Seattle, hey, we've got to have some sanity come in. What should the White House do? What should the National Guard do? Nobody's getting arrested. What should happen?
Clay Travis
Caroline Levitt is talking about it right now, actually. She is going off on Portland about how they're being ravaged. She's speaking about the arrest and such. Honestly, I think that the we. If you talk to residents here, this is what they want to see. They actually support the idea of the federal government coming in and taking more control here. They're not going to say it publicly because they'll be, you know, harassed and assaulted for it. But. Okay, all right, well, sorry, I'm a little bit described by Caroline, kind of a big.
Buck Sexton
Kind of a big deal to have the White House talking about your arrest while you're being interviewed on the biggest radio show in the country. So we certainly understand that.
Clay Travis
I don't mean to, like, pause there, but, but, but, yeah, but I Live in Washington, D.C. right, where they act like all these people are not wanting or not liking the federal intervention that's happened there. And that's just not true. Everyday residents love it. They're excited by it. They feel safe. They can walk around again. The people of Portland want the same thing. They just can't say it publicly or else they'll be beaten. The street, too.
Buck Sexton
Nick, while we're talking to you, Mary Margaret Olahan, I'm sure you're talking about this, but for the. Or seeing this for yourself, because I can hear Caroline in the background. Mary Margaret Olahan at the Daily Wire says Caroline Levitt says Nick Sorter's arrest should be very. Should is unacceptable and everyone should be concerned that you were arrested rather than the violent rioters in Portland. And so we will let you continue to watch that. Just. We'll be in touch. Are you going to be out in the streets again in Portland? What's your plan now? And do you feel like you're going to be safe?
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah. I've got, I've got a lot of patriots coming today, so it'll be, it'll, it'll be good. It'll be safe. There are a lot of people flying in just to support me today, so.
Buck Sexton
Well, we appreciate everything you're doing. We know it's a crazy time. We appreciate you making the time to come on with us. Stay safe and, and thank you to everybody out there that can be and will be patriots. If people are listening in Portland and they want to support you, what should they do? What could you tell them to do?
Clay Travis
Honestly, just. Just support me on X. That's what we need the most, is just support independent journalists. Not even just me, just people that are. There are a lot of people like Katie Davis Corp with the Post Millennial that just got assaulted with a freaking pipe on the streets of Portland the other day. And of course, nothing was done about it. The police didn't do anything about it, like support independent journalists. That's what needs to happen because we're the ones that are actually embedded boots on the ground, you know, risking our own safety and even freedom doing this stuff. So. And you know, the outpouring of support has been incredible from so many people.
Eric Nesbitt
From around the world.
Clay Travis
And I appreciate you giving me the platform today.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for coming on with us and stay safe. That is Nick Sorter. Encourage you guys. You can go follow him. We'll share some of his videos and some of the stories. But again, he was arrested last night at the Antifa Attack event. Basically the protest that Antifa is putting on surrounding ICE and being talked about right now in the White House as President Trump prepares, I think, to marshal a great deal of resources. So we will talk more about this and continue to break it down for you. In the meantime, if you own gold, you're feeling pretty good this year. Your investment, no matter the size, up around 40% year to date. That's solid appreciation, a sign of our times. When there's unrest in the world, when there's uncertainty in the market, savvy investors turn to gold. And they have for centuries. Gold has held value. And if you want gold to be a part of your portfolio, you can help find out how it makes sense for you. By going to Birch Gold, they'll help convert an existing IRA or a 401k into a tax sheltered IRA. In gold, you don't pay a dime out of your pocket. Just text my name Clay to 9,898 98 and claim your free info kit. No obligation, just useful information. Best indicator of the future is the past and for centuries, legitimately, over a thousand years, people have been using gold as a safe haven, as a marker of reliable Investment. Text CLAY to 989898 right now to claim your free info kit on gold. That's clay to 989898 protect your future today with Birch Gold. Stories of freedom, Stories of America Inspiration, Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show Appreciate all of you. While we were just talking with Nick Sorter about his arrest, the White House was talking about Nick Sorter's arrest. Here's our friend Caroline Levitt at the White House podium discussing that just moments ago. Cut 31 just last night we saw.
Caroline Levitt
An extremely troubling incident where conservative journalist Nick Sorter was captured on video being taken into custody by the Portland police after he was ambushed by Antifa and was defending himself from these assaults. But instead of arresting these violent mob members night after night after night who are ravaging this community, the police arrested a journalist who was there trying to document the chaos and everyone in this room should be extremely concerned about that. The Department of Justice spoke with that journalist this morning and they will be launching a full investigation into his arrest. This incident is part of a troubling trend in Portland where left wing mobs believe they get to decide who can visit and live in their city. It is not their city. It is the American people's city and President Trump is going to restore that. I just spoke with the President about this and he has directed his team here at the White House to begin reviewing aid that can be potentially be cut in Portland. We will not fund states that allow anarchy.
Buck Sexton
Well, so Portland is in the FO stage of fa fo and we will see what ends up happening. We want Nick to stay safe. And so I know many of you in the Portland area and beyond, but certainly in Portland appreciate the reporting that he's doing. But we got to rest. All these, all these kooks, all these crazy people, they've been doing this in Portland for five years now. Five years. Unbelievable. Sabers Co. We trust to provide our families with the best non lethal self protection tools out there. We've got them in my home. Buck and Carrie have them in their home. If you haven't done so yet, set yourself up with Saber self protection tools. Sabre is spelled S A B R e website. Saber radio.com. we have got them all throughout the Travis household. Maybe partly because we got knucklehead teenagers in this house. Do you have knucklehead teenagers? Do you have knucklehead grandsons, granddaughters coming in at all hours of the night? You don't know when they're gonna come in, when the alarm's gonna go off. But maybe you wanna make sure you're safe, but you don't want to use lethal protection. That's what Saber's all about. They've got a projectile pepper gel launcher. It's shaped like a pistol or rifle, but it's non lethal. They've also got pepper sprays if your kids got late night hours going off to school at jobs. 844-824 safe. That's 844-824 safe saberradio.com 15% off when you go there.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay. Travis BUCK SEXTON show joined now by Eric Nesbitt. He is a state senator in Michigan running for the governor's office up there. We talked about how Michigan is probably the most important state. I honestly mean this. If you look at 2026 and 2028 and the amount of serious offices that are up for grabs as there will be no incumbent governors, the awful Gretchen Whitmer will hop on her broomstick and ride off into the night sky. Eric Nesbitt with us now. What do you see on the ground? We talked about this yesterday as well. What do you see on the ground in Michigan? And are you optimistic that Michigan can become much more of a red state in the years ahead?
Eric Nesbitt
Hey, Clay, thanks for having me on. And I'll tell you one thing, Michigan Republicans are excited after last year, President Trump winning the state again and drawing out a record setting number of people as we continue to grow the party here in Michigan because we've seen what it means under Governor Whitmer and the Democrats here in Michigan that it's tougher to make it in Michigan, it's tougher to do business in Michigan. Three out of four fourth graders can't read at grade level. So it's tougher for our kids to learn in Michigan and and our job creators, it's tough for them with the highest energy cost, highest insurance costs in the Midwest. It's just tougher to expand and invest. And with Governor Whitmer term limited out with Gary Peters leaving and fleeing the US Senate with three competitive congressional seats with the state House, with President Trump's leadership last year, we won back the state House in Michigan and we ended a Democrat trifecta. I feel positive on the ground and motivated as we continue to grow our campaign and activate folks on the ground to turn out. I was in Menominee last Saturday, which is a small community, I think about 20,000 people actually. Tudor Dixon was up there as one of the speakers. Her and I were the keynote speakers there. And there was a sold out crowd, over 130 people in a small county and they already had 60 tickets for the Lincoln Day sold for next year's. So a lot of energy that's around there and we're continuing to see that around the state.
Buck Sexton
Talking to Eric Nesbitt, I'm curious when you went to Hillsdale and we love Hillsdale College here, Dr. Larry Orn, has built a powerhouse. What was that experience like for you? And I know you have young kids, as do I. You've got three. As you start to look forward in the larger educational environment, how impactful do you think Hillsdale is becoming? Not only in the state of Michigan where you are and obviously as your alma mater, has a lot of connection to it, but it's a cultural force across the nation now.
Eric Nesbitt
Yeah, Dr. Oren's been a great mentor of me over the. Over the years. He continues to show leadership and light and darkness, you know, where there's a lot of darkness in higher education. And you saw that with Charlie Kirk going into college campuses. He was at Michigan State University this spring. I have plenty of staff that used to work for Turning Point or volunteered on campuses, but you see how the left wing tries to shut down debate and dissent and try to indoctrinate our kids in public universities and private colleges. And God bless Charlie for taking it on. And they tried to cancel him and silence him. And unfortunately, a few weeks ago, an assassin's bullet took him out. But unlike a lot of these schools, Hillsdale was one that Charlie Kirk actually believed in. And he knew that they taught the basics, foundations of American government, of why our rights actually come from a creator, our God, not from government. Where Democrats and the left wing progressives believe our rights come from government. And we saw that during the COVID lockdowns. It was disgusting and wrong the way Governor Whitmer shut down our schools, shut down our businesses. And this is part of the reason why I'm running. My wife and I, we went to the OB's office. We were expecting our second kid. And for me, it began with COVID My wife was pregnant in 2020, and I wasn't even allowed to attend an OB's appointment with her. And I'll never forget the text message she sent when we had. When we found out we had a miscarriage. As I said in the parking lot, when she informed me that she had a miscarriage, she was experiencing the worst thing a parent can go through, losing a child. And the Democrats said I could not be there and comfort her, as her husband is the father. And I'll never forgive Gretchen Whitmer for that. She did that to our family. We cannot let that happen ever again. Never again. And that's why I'm fighting. And that's why we need to understand it's not just about COVID People can't make it in Michigan anymore. And our businesses, it's tougher for them. They cannot make it in Michigan. Our farmers cannot make it in Michigan. Our families cannot make it in Michigan and the next generation, unfortunately, our largest export used to be cars. And now it's our young people that needs to stop.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to Eric Nesbitt, running for governor in Michigan. That's an awful story about your wife and what she had to discover about the baby while she was by herself. Unfortunately, there's tons of people out there who weren't able, who had similar emotionally heartrending experiences, weren't able to say goodbye to mom or dad or grandma or grandpa or people of their families and friends because they were restricted from being able to enter under these broken COVID policies. Gretchen Whitmer actually thinks she did a good job with COVID and she may well run for President of the United States based partly on what she considers to be her great leadership of Michigan. What happens next with her and how does Michigan, as the front lines of a 5050 country help to determine not only the future of Gretchen Whitmer, but the nation as well?
Eric Nesbitt
Well, you got to have strong leadership. Just the way Florida was a 5050 state 10 years ago before President Trump came on the scene. He's effectively worked it to make it a lot more Republican. And you're seeing that in Michigan. I think we're becoming more and more Republican because of President Trump's leadership in working to bring out working class voters. We're the party of small business owners, farmers, workers, seniors, folks that actually trust parents. And I believe this is our last chance to save the state of Michigan. That's why I'm running for governor, is because I want everyone to be able to make it in Michigan. And if we want people to be able to make it in Michigan, we got to turn the chapter from the Biden Whitmer administration to the Trump Nesbitt administration. We have to make Michigan work for working families, for our seniors, for our small business owners and our farmers. And this is what we're building up. And we're getting some great responses across the state.
Buck Sexton
Would you have ever believed you have two daughters. Would you have ever believed that it would become Democrat party orthodoxy, including in the state of Michigan where there have been many controversies relating to this about men competing in women's sports being something that needs to be protected by the state of Michigan?
Eric Nesbitt
And I have two younger daughters, a six year old and a six month old. That's just blessed on both of them. And I couldn't imagine 10 years ago that anybody would be defending having a man shower in a gym with my daughter or having them play on girls sports or having them learn all the different pronouns instead of 26 pronouns being taught in schools. We need to get Back to the 26 letters of the Alphabet I had. I was out in Wayne County a few weeks ago at a fundraiser mine and a parent came up to me and said that they have a 12 year old son going to a public.
Clay Travis
School.
Eric Nesbitt
Sixth grade and he didn't use the they them pronoun for another boy. He was sent to the principal's office. This is not the America you and.
Clay Travis
I grew up in.
Eric Nesbitt
And God bless that 12 year old kid that when he went down to the principal's office he says, well with President Trump's orders I thought we could actually tell what people are by the sex that they were born as.
Buck Sexton
I, I mean Wayne county is Detroit for people who don't know. And yeah, congrats to that 12 year old boy for actually recognizing biological reality, something that virtually every Democrat elected official nationwide refuses to do. So Eric Nesbit, how can people find your website? Where should they go if they want to know more about the campaign?
Eric Nesbitt
Yeah, it's nesbitt for governor.com is the campaign address. I'm on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, all that other. But it's Eric with an A. Middle of five kids all started with A's and by the time mom got to me it was either going to be Eric or Erica with an A. And boy, I'm glad she went to Erica. I would have grown up a little tougher if it was Erica, but Eric Nesbitt and just farm boy and that needs to, we need to shake up the status quo on Lansing, turn the chapter from Gretchen Whitmer and away from Biden. And we need to bring an ally of President Trump into that, that governor's office in Lead Michigan. As President Trump's working to make things in the usa, we need to make sure that it's easier to make things here in Michigan.
Buck Sexton
Awesome. I appreciate the time and have a great weekend and good luck with that six month old. I hope she's sleeping. Tell your wife that, that we've got her back here as a community. That's a tough story you had to go through in 2020, but I'm glad you have a new baby girl.
Eric Nesbitt
Hey Clay, thank you so much and God bless you. Thanks for covering the issues that matter and bringing it to the people. And fortunately she started sleeping right after Mother's Day and actually Mother's Day was the first full night through the night. That was a big gift.
Buck Sexton
No doubt. It's one of the best days out there. We appreciate you. That's Eric Nesbitt. When we come back, we'll take some of your calls. Talk back Friday. No more guest schedule for the rest of the show. You can react to everything as we roll you into the weekend. I want to say it's fall and if you're walking around outside, no matter where you are, you may start to feel a little bit of a brisk coolness in the morning. I felt like that this morning. I was walking my fifth grader to school and I thought to myself, ah, it does feel a little bit like fall now that we're into October and even a few tree leaves where I am starting to show a little bit of an impact of the looming fall. Depending on where you are. If you're Eric Nesbitt up in Michigan, I know there's a lot of leaves that are beginning to change right now. You can get a free inspection, free estimate. Save up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilters website leaffilter.com Clay you can protect your home from flooding, roof damage, rotting, foundation issues as well. And it's not a lot of fun. Let's be honest. Getting on that ladder, climbing up on that roof, walking around, dragging all those leaves out of the gutters. Wouldn't it be better to never have to do that again? That's what Leaffilter is all about. Don't spend the fall worrying about your gutters. Schedule your free inspection. Get up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com clay that's L E A F filter.com clay free estimate. Free inspection 30 off at leaffilter.com Clay see representative for warranty details. Stories of freedom, stories of America. Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with Clay and Bob. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Episode: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 3, 2025
Date: October 3, 2025
Host: Clay Travis (with Buck Sexton in Taiwan, calls in/interjects occasionally)
In this Friday edition, Clay Travis steers a packed show focused on the week's major news in politics and culture. With Buck Sexton still abroad in Taiwan (and having recently interviewed Taiwan’s president, previewed for Monday), Clay discusses the thriving Trump-era economy, the ongoing government shutdown, demographic trends tied to politics and fertility, media focus on crime, emerging leftist candidates, and insights into on-the-ground protests in Portland. Highlights include an extended interview with journalist Nick Sorter following his high-profile arrest during ICE facility protests, a critique of left-wing messaging, and a conversation with Michigan State Senator and gubernatorial candidate Eric Nesbitt about Michigan's political landscape.
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This episode is a rapid-fire tour through top conservative political narratives of October 2025: economic optimism under Trump, failures and messaging woes of leftist Democrats, the impact of culture on elections, and the consequences of lawlessness blamed on progressive governance. Standout segments include on-the-ground coverage of chaos in Portland and a forward-looking discussion of Michigan’s political future. Clay repeatedly ties partisan politics to broad cultural and demographic shifts, setting up his larger case for why the right is winning—at the ballot box, in the nursery, and in the country as a whole.
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