Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 10 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show — Daily Review with Clay and Buck

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode dives into major current events, with a focus on the economy, escalating crime concerns, and the deepening cultural and political divide in America. Clay and Buck examine the latest economic figures, dissect high-profile crime cases—including the murder of Irina Zarutska—and explore generational shifts in attitudes, especially between young men and women. The show includes an interview with Michael Whatley, Republican Senate candidate from North Carolina, on policy failures and crime in his state.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

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1. Economic Update & Housing Affordability

[02:54–09:54]

• Rate Cuts & Inflation Update:

  • Buck kicks off with anticipation of a Federal Reserve rate cut, addressing the persistent problem of housing affordability across the country.
    • “Housing affordability in this country is crazy. Right now, you have to make double the money to be able to afford...based on rates and the cost of buying a new home.” — Buck Sexton [03:43]

• Wholesale Inflation:

  • Clip from CNBC’s Rick Santelli highlights that wholesale inflation for August just posted its first negative number since April, with year-over-year inflation hitting the lowest since June.
    • “2.6 [percent year-over-year inflation]. We were expecting 3.3... Real progress here.” — Rick Santelli [06:45]

• Mortgages and Blame on the Fed/Biden:

  • Clay argues that Jerome Powell and the Biden administration worsened the mortgage crisis by reacting too slowly to rising inflation.
    • “Many people got handcuffed when it came to buying or selling homes... The number one thing that would solve a lot of the issues...is if mortgage rates came back to a reasonable level.” — Clay Travis [08:40]

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2. Consumer Prices & Cost of Living

[09:54–18:23]

• High Prices Linger:

  • Despite positive economic signals, Buck and Clay note persistent high prices at grocery stores and restaurants.
    • “Prices are never coming back down... Inflation is so toxic because basically once the prices are there, they never come back down.” — Clay Travis [12:08]

• Personal Perspective:

  • The hosts share relatable anecdotes of high food prices:
    • “You cannot get a filet in a metro area of the United States right now for less than 60 bucks.” — Buck Sexton [15:15]
    • “Fast food and like casual sit down restaurant prices have almost vanished. Like you can’t eat affordably at fast food anymore.” — Clay Travis [17:30]
  • Humorously, both agree on a universal life rule about fries:
    • “You always get the fries.” — Clay Travis [18:20]

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3. Crime, Race, and Justice System Critique

[22:36–35:01, 38:33–51:21]

• The Zarutska Murder Case:

  • Buck details the stabbing of Irina Zarutska, a Ukrainian refugee, on public transit in Charlotte, discussing the disturbing footage and the lack of bystander intervention.
    • “It’s gut-wrenching...people just leave her and no one does anything. No one even makes a move to call the police... They just let her bleed to death.” — Buck Sexton [26:20]

• Race and Media Narrative:

  • The hosts address the reluctance of media and officials to call out anti-white violence or release certain videos when the narrative doesn't fit left-wing assumptions.
    • “He said basically, ‘I got that white girl’... There’s a lot of racism that has nothing to do with white people in America.” — Clay Travis [31:34]
    • “That is an official BLM narrative... that it is impossible for a black person to be racist. That is a lie.” — Buck Sexton [32:10]

• Pattern Recognition and Consequences:

  • Multiple cases cited—Alabama stabbing, double murder in NYC—used to illustrate systemic failures, repeat offenders, and what they frame as media dishonesty.
    • “You have to look at who’s committing murders... This idea that black people were in danger from white people is just crazy, if you look at the statistical data.” — Clay Travis [33:53]
    • Discussion of hypocrisy and narrative shifting, referencing moments like ‘Stop Asian Hate’ disappearing as soon as suspect demographics didn’t fit expectations.

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Interview: Michael Whatley (RNC, NC Senate Candidate)

[40:17–51:21]

• Soft-on-Crime Policies:

  • Whatley criticizes Democratic leadership and former Governor Roy Cooper for policies leading to repeat offenders on the streets.
    • “People are just in shock that this guy was allowed...on the streets after having been arrested 14 different times and let out through a revolving door.” — Michael Whatley [40:49]

• Judicial Accountability:

  • Emphasizes importance of electing tough-on-crime judges and holding magistrates accountable.
    • “There do need to be ramifications when people are going to continually put the interests of criminals ahead of the community at large.” — Whatley [44:26]

• Resource Allocation and Campaign Stakes:

  • Highlights campaign to change direction in North Carolina and responds to expected Democratic spending.
    • “I fully expect the Democrats will spend $250 to $300 million in this race in North Carolina.” — Whatley [50:34]

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4. Generational Divide: Attitudes on Work, Family, and Gender Roles

[55:50–70:47]

• Gen Z Polling:

  • NBC News data shows Gen Z men (Trump voters) overwhelmingly value marriage and children, while Gen Z women (Harris voters) deprioritize family in favor of career and “fulfilling job.”
    • “All these women who are voting for Harris...don’t care at all about family formation, which is stunning, honestly.” — Buck Sexton [59:52]
    • “I think it’s a sign that women have been sold a mass delusion... The only reason to want, in my opinion, a fulfilling job and career is so you can afford to have a family.” — Clay Travis [60:02]

• Cultural/Social Impact:

  • Buck and Clay argue young women have “been sold a bill of goods” and warn of future regret for prioritizing career over family:
    • “They deeply inside reject some of the choices that they made to give up a family...and they make politics their life’s focus because they have to pour their energy...and it’s not motherhood. And instead it’s ‘Donald Trump is Hitler.’” — Clay Travis [66:03]

• Biological Clock and Relationship Realities:

  • Discussion of women’s biological limitations compared to men, lamenting the lack of real information given to young people about fertility.
    • “If you’re over 35, it’s...a geriatric pregnancy. That’s what they call it, a geriatric pregnancy.” — Buck Sexton [63:49]

• Social Media & Political Activism:

  • Clay links the aimlessness and anger among young women to their political outbursts.
    • “How is your life’s ambition to show up when somebody’s eating at a steakhouse and call him Hitler? I think you’ve given up the plot on life.” — Clay Travis [67:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Economy:

  • “Mortgage rates—important. You hit on the second thing that I think is important. Prices are never coming back down.” — Clay Travis [12:08]

• On Crime:

  • “No more trying to deal with racial injustice of the past by creating racial injustice today.” — Buck Sexton, comparing the present to the O.J. Simpson trial era [29:23]

• On Social Trends:

  • “Women have been sold a mass delusion.” — Clay Travis [60:02]

• On Culture Wars:

  • “They think that lying to you in the service of their beliefs is the moral choice. Their morality has been twisted.” — Buck Sexton [36:34]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:54 | Show opens with economic stats and mortgage discussion | | 06:11 | CNBC’s Rick Santelli on inflation numbers | | 11:16 | Wells Fargo CEO’s analysis of the economy | | 17:53 | Fast food and restaurant price convergence anecdote | | 22:36 | Crime section starts—Zarutska stabbing case | | 31:34 | Race, media, and the BLM narrative | | 40:17 | Interview: Michael Whatley—Soft-on-crime policy critique | | 55:50 | Generational divide: Gen Z, work, marriage, and values poll | | 59:52 | Discussion: Men and women’s divergent priorities | | 70:47 | End of content section |

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Takeaway

This episode blends economic and crime policy critique with cultural commentary, using both national news and personal anecdotes. The hosts maintain their signature mix of humor, outrage, and conservative skepticism, dissecting the gap between media narratives and what they argue are the lived realities of everyday Americans.

For listeners wanting to understand the right’s framing of today’s top issues—economic frustration, crime wave anxieties, and a rapidly evolving American culture—this episode offers a comprehensive, sharply argued tour.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to FOX One for complete terms and conditions. Fox One we live for live streaming now. Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition. Almost lost it there, Clay. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis, Clay Travis said Buck Sexton show. We got to start with the right day. Very important but a lot of news going on. So lots of reading in to do this morning in preparation for the show on things breaking, things happening. We are excited to speak with all of you across this great land of ours. So thank you for being here with us. Some important numbers coming out on the economy. I'm going to dive into that with play momentarily because that affects each and every one of us. We've also got President Trump weighing in and the DOJ saying that there will be swift consequences in the case of Irina, who was stabbed to death in Charlotte. We've been talking a lot about that horrific case this week. Week also the case of the retired veterinary professor from Alabama, another horrific case, another stabbing of a woman. The assailant was black. It was a white woman stabbed to death. People looking at that case and saying, well, there's no video of it, so it doesn't have that same visual impact. But the details of that are every bit as horrific. And there's another case in New York City that I'm going to tell you about that just happened. I'm not going deep into the archives. Another instance of the failure of the criminal justice system. And in this case, the perpetrator is still at large. A double murder committed in New York City. We'll talk about this in a few minutes. Bottom of the hour, most likely. And Clay, we've got also Kamala Harris's book is out. We will have some fun discussing this. And she takes some shots at Biden, which we knew was going to happen because heaven forbid Kamala takes any accountability for running the worst. I know it was only 90 days or something, but still the worst 90 day campaign imaginable. We will discuss that. Have some fun getting into all of it. But I wanted to start off with some of the economic numbers because there's anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something, Clay, we haven't talked about, honestly. I think we got a lot of things to talk about here. So I'm not going to say we haven't discussed it enough. But we certainly could spend Even more time on housing affordability in this country is, is crazy. Right now you have to make double the money to be able to afford based on rates and based on the cost of, of buying a new home in general. Double the money. You did what in 2019, 2020. It hasn't, it hasn't been that long. Pre pandemic versus now and the median home prices nation, I'm talking nationwide, whether you live in Oklahoma or Maine or Arizona or California, whatever. Nationwide, home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable and there's a lot of people priced out of the market. So we got big problems there. Good things though are happening in the economy. And let's talk first about where wholesale prices are. Here you go. CNBC's Rick Santelli. Clay talking about where inflation is. Where prices are. Play Clip 1 PPI.

[Rick Santelli]

Wholesale inflation for August expected to be up 3 10. No, no, no. Down 110 of a percent. Down 1 10.

[Michael Whatley]

Wow.

[Rick Santelli]

That would be the first negative number since April of this year when it was -2/10. If you strip out food and energy. We're also expecting up 3 10. It's minus 110 as well. Minus 110 the same last time we had a minus number was April and we're comping to minus 210 in April. Now the year over year, in my opinion, these are the most important and boy, I'm surprised. Real progress here. 2.6 on year over year headline. We are expecting 3.3 in the rearview mirror. 3.3. 2.6 will be the lowest since it was 2.4 in June.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, this is where the American people start chanting slowly but surely, rate cut, rate cut, rate cut.

[Clay Travis]

Well, they should cut 50 basis points. And I'm looking, as you're telling us all this buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates because this is the number one thing that I believe is broken in our economy. That Biden tanked and I'll explain it why in a minute. But according to the numbers that I'm looking up right now, 30 year mortgage is now around 6.4 to 6.5%. A 15 year is around 5.6. Now that's just me doing rapid search. So I don't want to get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities. They're coming down and this is really important and I don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly what happened, but many of you are living it. We went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives, from 2.5% mortgage rates on a 30 year to over well over 7%, approaching 8% in the space of about a year. And that is because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck, when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory. And then we went all the way, I believe In June of 21, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it was June of 22 to 9.1% inflation, which.

[Buck Sexton]

Was worst in 40 years. 40 years.

[Clay Travis]

And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that it happens so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when it came to buying or selling homes. And the number one thing that would solve a lot of the issues in the country today, and a lot of you out there nodding along with me is if mortgage rates came back to a reasonable level where people who are ready to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to give up a 2 1/2% mortgage and take on a 9% mortgage or an 8% mortgage. It's, it's absolutely bonkers for you to do that. And a lot of people got priced out because if you didn't happen to get that 2 and a half or 3% mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market because other people did. Now the result is I think we're going to get at least a 25 basis point cut next week. Should be a 50 point basis cut, and I think we should have a 1 point overall cut in interest rates before the end of the year. And that will help to solve some of the log jam in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest issue hamstringing a lot of people.

[Buck Sexton]

Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many of you that, that's, that are telling us, hey guys, prices are still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it. We know that is the reality of what happened during the pandemic, which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars. And then Biden printing the 2 trillion right when he came into office, just adding gasoline to a fire that was already raging. There is no free lunch. We printed money without the attendant productivity behind it or the goods and services behind it. We had rampant inflation. So we've been paying for that, literally paying for that with high prices. But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's not, it's not that we're unaware or anything else, it's that this takes time, but the data is moving all of this in the right direction. Side note, Clay, it is still astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier in the week, but I was reading a more detailed analysis of it this morning. That is crazy. Put a pin in that, though. Wells Fargo CEO, somebody who has to look at the macroeconomics of what's going on and has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and all these different things. Wells Fargo is a massive bank. I just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know, not necessarily a guy walking around in a MAGA hat. I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking about where the economy is play too.

[Wells Fargo CEO]

In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend continues at the same year over year pace across almost all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape. We look at signs for any kind of change, and you just don't see it. Having said that, there is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income consumers, which continues and is a real issue. And when you look at just the overall data in terms of jobs, it's undeniable in terms of just job creation. So, yeah, things are actually feel very good today, certainly relative to what you think they could be.

[Buck Sexton]

Things feel very good today. I mean, you know, look, nothing's ever perfect with the economy, Clay. It could always be better. But here we are in September of Trump's first year. It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing that I think is important. Prices are never coming back down. And I think that is so challenging because people are angry when they go to the grocery store, when they go to fast food. Inflation is so toxic because basically once the prices are there, they never come back down. And I don't think a lot of people recognize that necessarily because to your point, Buck, we had two generations where effectively we didn't have Biden era inflation, where we didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation. And a lot of you who lived through the 1970s that are listening to us right now, you said, yeah, we dealt with this for a long time. Inflation rates got all the way up, I think to like 17%, if I'm not mistaken. Mortgage rates Did. I mean, it's crazy. When you go back and look at some of the historical economic data on.

[Buck Sexton]

This, you also used to be able to get a return on a savings account, I think in the teens, in the 80s at one point, right. Or maybe it was 9, 10, 11. I mean there were times when you could put money. Now there was much higher inflation, but you could put money in a savings account backed by the government and get a return. We've been in an era now for years, maybe decades where to get return on your money. Essentially most people end up putting it in the market in some capacity because otherwise your money is being inflated away all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing because not only does it raise prices, but it turns out to be that a tax on wage earners because they don't have the attendant assets that get inflated like home prices along with it. And if their wages don't keep up, you just have less buying power, which you feel when you're paying your rent, buying your groceries, filling up the gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right? Or it takes longer to feel that than it does the initial. Let's just pay everybody to stay home and then spend trillions of dollars under Biden that we should never have spent totally.

[Clay Travis]

And remember, Biden wanted to spend 5 trillion and Joe Manchin said I can't go above 1.9. So things would have actually been dou digit inflation if Biden had gotten what he wanted. But the anger, I get it. You're never going to be able to buy a hamburger for the price that you did before COVID That's never going to occur. Your cereal is never going to be the price that it was before COVID Those prices are now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures. And I think some people believed, oh, prices are going to just go back to what they were in 2019. And when you don't see it in your grocery bill, that is frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic. This is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now some places prices fluctuate more price of gas, for instance, you are definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows and what it costs to fill up the tank. But the price on gas is far more of a fluctuating factor than the price on groceries or the price on fast food. Which is where I think a lot of people still, and I'm in this camp, just are, are frustrated every time you get a bill because things cost way More than you think they should cost. And that is a function of poor economic decisions to your point, buck, that were led by the Biden administration, I can tell you.

[Buck Sexton]

And I'm not even, not even talking about our wonderful sponsor, good ranchers, although I am making one of their steaks tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw that in there. So I guess I am talking about them. You go out to a restaurant these days and you get a steak, and whether it's a good steak, a mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now I know it's Miami and you're going to say it's expensive. We're going to be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you, if we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay Filet is like 65, 70 bucks these days. For one. For one. I mean, I remember used to go have a steak dinner for $70. I know I sound like some guy from, you know, from the olden, olden days or something, but the price, food prices, they can't hide from you. And at a restaurant because they have to add in all the attendant costs of labor and tax and everything else, you can see what they have to run up in order to run a business. I mean, you cannot get a filet in a, in a, in a metro area of the United States right now. You can't get like a decent steak for less than 60 bucks. Really. I mean, it's very hard to find.

[Clay Travis]

It is. Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your point, on the filet, we go to a restaurant. I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right not far from where we live, called the Chop House. Not a super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They didn't know they were going to get a shout out. My son ordered a filet, a steak the other day. We went to go eat there and the waiter came over and he said, hey, I just want to let you know this is the most affordable place like I can think of where you can go sit down. He said, the cost on our filet is now over $40. We've had to keep changing. That's not even included in the menu now. And I think a lot of you have probably experienced that. Where you go, I'm not talking about.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, how, how many ounces are we talking to? Are we talking 8 ounce fillet? Look, I, I take my meat very seriously. We talk an 8 ounce, 10 ounce filet. I mean, I, I put away an 8 ounce filet pretty easily.

[Clay Travis]

We're not talking about the place where you had to buy me the fancy steak and, you know, still paying that off.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, you want to talk about mortgage rates? That's where all my money's gone after.

[Clay Travis]

Biden dropped out of the race. We're not talking about this. This is a great, really local establishment. But I do think that many of you feel this when you go in. The other thing that's happened is, and this is me being a kind of looking at the data, the difference between fast food and like casual sit down restaurant prices has almost vanished. Like you can't eat affordably at fast food anymore.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I order Shake Shack here with Kerry sometimes and it's 50 bucks. I'm just getting two burgers and some fries. She always says, don't get the fries. By the way, to all the, all the husbands out there, obviously we get the fries. You know what I mean? Like they said, don't get the fries. You get the fries and they're happy you got the fry when they're there. When those hot fries. Fries show up. No one's ever upset that you got them. But people will tell you, don't ever. And even when you're out at a restaurant, Clay, important rule, whenever someone says, oh, we don't need the fries, yes.

[Clay Travis]

You do always get the fries. You always get the fries.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Michael Whatley]

All right.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. The biggest story in the nation still this week has to do with the criminal justice systems failures, the democrat narratives on crime, the really the legacy of the BLM movement and the BLM ideology. Black Lives Matter. After the footage was fully released of Ukrainian refugee, a war refugee, a true refugee, not all these fake refugees scamming our system at our southern border. Irina Zarutska, this beautiful young woman who was viciously stabbed to death. The video shows the. Completely out of nowhere. I mean unprovoked certainly, but also just a complete. Just. There was no way she could have known. No way that she could have. Unless she just refused to sit next to this individual based on appearance. There's no way that she could have known anything bad was going to happen to her. And then she stabbed in the neck. She sits there. It is gut wrenching. I've watched the whole video. Clay has watched the whole video where we'll tell you about it. I'm not sure that all. I mean, Carrie, it's been really bothering her, you know.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And really stuck with other people that. I know it's. It's horrific imagery, but it is important that the public has access to it and is aware of it. Let me also just say, Clay, I have read numerous accounts that there is video footage of the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalfe in Texas.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

By Carmelo Anthony, who has since had members of his community raise, I believe over $1 million for him and now has a public defender.

[Clay Travis]

And we should mention for people who have forgotten, these are the high school kids. One at a track meet. Black kid stabs white kid in the heart over nothing and kills him in cold blood. Right there.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And I think that that video also needs to be released. I think that when people see that video they will be horrified. I think we all understand why they have not released that video so far. And we are noticing a pattern Here when the video is delayed, the city council in Charlotte. My understanding, Clay, is that they initially voted not to release the video of the Irina Zarutska fatal stabbing. It's horrific. Something else from this video, Clay, the callous nature of individuals around this woman. Look, we can separate this right away, so everyone's very clear. I, I mean, I have had people who are as adept with edge weapons as a Fort Bragg edge weapons instructor tell me that if you think you're going to fight somebody with a knife and win, you got another thing coming. They don't have to be skilled. They don't. It is that you're at an enormous disadvantage. I bring this up because the problem is not that someone didn't necessarily try to tackle this guy right away. You know, you're frozen in terror. He's stabbing somebody. You could be next. Now, some of you listening to this, you know, your former Green Berets, your, you know, your former law enforcement, you're an Army Ranger, you know, you might step in. A lot of people are going to be scared, Clay, to step into a maniac with a knife. And that doesn't. That's a self preservation thing. I think we can just be honest about that, right? If somebody has a different. If someone's strangling somebody, but if somebody has a knife, you have to make that determination about whether you think you can intervene without you getting stabbed to death, too. The problem is this individual leaves the train and Irina is there in terror, clutching at her neck and crying, and people just leave her and no one does anything. No one even makes a move to call the police on their phones. We can see this. They just let her bleed to death. I.

[Clay Travis]

It's an impossibly difficult video to watch. I think adults need to see it. I also think if we're looking at.

[Buck Sexton]

That and everyone on the train is black and she is white, which has been pointed out by everybody. This is video. You can see this. Just to be clear that there's a dynamic here that people are addressing, which is nobody thought to help this woman. What's going on here?

[Clay Travis]

I think also I was talking with producer Ali about this in the same way in New York City, a lot of people won't stand near the tracks because you are unfortunately aware that people might shove you in front of an oncoming train. This is a huge fear of anybody that ever rides public transportation in New York City or any other subway type environment. The other thing I would say is I think a lot of people need to be sitting with their back in the back row if you have to ride public transport, transportation. If I have daughters, I've certainly got sons. I'm telling them that unfortunately, because of safety issues, you can't trust who's behind you or what might occur. The really awful thing about watching this video is once she sat down and selected that seat, there was nothing she could have done to keep herself from getting killed. She gets stabbed and never knows the stabbing is coming. And he stabs her multiple times. There is nothing even a grown man who is bigger than the guy who was stabbing would have been able to defend himself. When somebody stabs you from behind, you have no ability to defend yourself. I think you have to. And I mean this honestly. I would talk to my sons, I would talk to my, my daughters. If you're out there listening to us right now, if you are riding public transportation, I hate to have this discussion. You need to be with your back against something where no one can come at you without you being able to see them. And I having this conversation with producer Alley, it's like the old school mafia guy. You know, when the mafia guy would.

[Buck Sexton]

Eat in the restaurant. I can't sit with my back to the. To the entrance. And I need to know where the exit is, by the way, A lot I know, I know a lot of. Forget about mafia. I know a lot of CIA guys. That's how they go through their whole life.

[Clay Travis]

Still is. Is like I'm sitting with my back against a wall. I see everybody that comes in. There is no inability of me to analyze threats. Now, could the guy with the knife, to your point, Buck, even if he's coming straight on her, is it unlikely that she's going to be able to defend her relative to him? Probably. But at least she is with a back against her, able to see him coming as opposed to being stabbed and never actually even knowing that her life was coming to a close. I think that's what's so particularly difficult about watching this video is you can see her turn, see that she has been killed, know that something is wrong, and then watch her slowly bleeding out on the video. It's brutal, but we need to see it because it's unacceptable to happen anywhere in America to anyone.

[Buck Sexton]

And one thing that. Look, this is a change in the narrative moment. I think broadly, nationally, it's not going to affect policy in every city. It's not going to change laws everywhere. But the perception has changed about interracial violence in this country as a result of this. How it is treated by law enforcement, how it is covered by the media and what the realities by the numbers are for how our criminal justice system is treating people, what is happening, who is being kept safe, who is not. And so I think in that sense, it is a little bit of a late 90s, you know, O.J. simpson moment. Remember the O.J. simpson trial happened. I think the first person I ever heard make this case was actually Ann Coulter. But she said the O.J. simpson trial happened. And it wasn't just the verdict in the O.J. simpson trial. It was the widespread support, which I saw with my own eyes as a kid, of people across the country from within. Now, I'm not saying it was everyone or even a majority, but there was enough support for O.J. from the black community when he clearly murdered those two people. I mean, one was his ex wife, the mother of children. The other was just a guy who happened to be there. And there was cheering all over the country. Clay, you saw this too, right? And this happened. There was cheering in my school from the black students in my school at the verdict. It was the only time I can remember there being radios turned on in every classroom to hear the verdict of a trial. That's how fixated on this. And there was a moment where he just said, you know what? The law is the law. We're actually going to not allow this, this stuff to happen anymore. No more trying to deal with racial injustice of the past by creating racial injustice today. And I think that this may be another turning point, another moment in time where people see this and they say, you can't have people arrested 15 times. And you only take it seriously when they murder some girl who's trying to get home from her job after fleeing a war zone. That's unacceptable.

[Clay Travis]

I also think, I think all that is well said, and I like the analogy. And Ann Coulter talking about, hey, this was clearly OJ Got away with killing two innocent white people, slaughtering.

[Buck Sexton]

And a lot of people cheered for it. That was the cheer.

[Clay Travis]

And all of the evidence dictated that he was guilty. And as time has passed, I think it opened a lot of people's eyes to racism. Here's what I would say in general. He said, basically, I got that white girl, and I'm quoting this guy who stabbed arena to death. There's a lot of racism that has nothing to do with white people in America. And I think if we want to really have a conversation, the idea that only racism can occur, white to black, is one of the most dishonest things that is said in America at all.

[Buck Sexton]

That is an official BLM narrative, by the way, that. That the. The race hustlers out there, the people that have made careers of this, they say that because of historic power imbalance, it is in fact impossible for a black person to be racist. It is impossible. That is the official theory of the Ibram X Kendi's and people and Robin d'. Angelo's. It is impossible. That is a lie. That is a lie. Clearly. Clearly. Many of these incidents that we can talk about here involve a racial animus from a black person to a white person that resulted in a murder, a grizzly murder in this case. And Clay, we couldn't even finish talking about this, and we had to. People, I was talking about on Monday. You were out Monday. But the murder of that retired veterinary professor from.

[Clay Travis]

She was in Auburn.

[Buck Sexton]

Alum. Yeah, in Auburn. And now I've got this other story. You've got another career criminal. Okay, this. This guy is on the loose, still a violent sex offender and career criminal. He killed two elderly people in Queens. This just happened. He is. He is a career criminal. He. They, like I said, registered sex offender. He is a black man named Jamel McGriff. He is on the run, Clay. He tied. He knocked on the door of these elderly people for assistance. He tied them up, set the man on fire, stabbed them both to death, and then tried to start a fire to burn down the whole building. Yeah, again, we can do the. If this, If a white guy did this to two elderly black people anywhere in the United States, it would be the biggest story in the war, in the country, in the world. You know, we. We'd all be told the KKK was rising again and all this. But. But, yeah, we're not supposed to notice this. We're not supposed to talk about this. This just happened. He's still. He's still on the loose.

[Clay Travis]

Remember Biden said the biggest threat in America was white supremacy. I mean, that was the talking point of the Democrat Party, that America's biggest threat is white supremacy. And I think a lot of black people are looking and hearing all this and recognizing just how dishonest much of the coverage around BLM was. Because if you want there to be fewer murders, as everyone of all races should, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, everyone out there listening, we should all want there to be fewer murders in America. You have to look at who's committing murders. And this idea that black people were in danger from white people is just crazy. If you look at the statistical data, that almost never happens. And yet this is where I come back to the anecdotal world in which we live. If you take any anecdote, it should be representative of a larger problem. It shouldn't be a outlier to that is almost never occurring that we're using to try to drive public policy. That's frankly what George Floyd was. And remember, the moment was. Was awful death for way more people.

[Buck Sexton]

The moment in time where there was the Stop Asian Hate campaign.

[Clay Travis]

Now, if you want to look at that down.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. What's really interesting is you look at crime statistics within the Asian community. And by the way, in New York City, there's a very. Now Asian is so expansive. When you say Asia, you're talking Bangladeshi, Are you talking Taiwanese? I mean, there's a whole. You know, Asia is a very big place, but there are elements or members of the Asian community who are actually quite poor but have incredibly low crime rates. So this is one of the ways you can just dismiss this. Oh, poverty causes crime. That's a lie. The data doesn't support it. It's just not true. There's no causation there. But the Stop Asian Hate thing got stopped because of video.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And we were being told that there were. The insinuation was there's like MAGA hat wearing white guys spitting on Asian people or being mean to Asian people, attacking Asian people. And what we saw over and over and over again was that it was non white men who were attacking Asian people. And so they got rid of the whole Stop Asian Hate campaign.

[Clay Travis]

Stop Asian Hate vanished because black guys were the ones that were causing almost all of the Asian beatdowns and violence. And so that, remember, it was. When did that last, like six weeks. Stop Asian Hate. We got to stop Asian hate. And all the videos kept coming out and it was just black guys knocking out Asian people. And people were like, yeah, you know, I guess maybe this Asian thing's not such a big deal. Right. And again, what they are looking for is the right people to be current. Look, this whole trans shoot up, the Minneapolis in Nashville story vanished. Guy wrote kill Trump on the gun and yeah, it just is gone.

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[Clay Travis]

The know when you're on The Go the Team 47 podcast Trump highlights from the week Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. The biggest story continues to be the brutal murder of Arena Zarutska and the video in full toe brutality being released yesterday afternoon after we got off the show. And one of the people that is responsible sadly for the fact that this individual was allowed to be back out onto the streets is the former Governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, who was instrumental in putting in place the soft on crime policies that allowed this guy to be arrested 14 times and then to brutally attack and murder an innocent 23 year old sitting on Charlotte public transit. And one of the individuals running to try to ensure that the Republican Senate seat currently held by Thom Tillis remains in the hands of Republicans and that soft on crime Democrats are not allowed to advance to Washington D.C. is Michael Whatley, former chair of the RNC. He is running in North Carolina. He is going to be the Republican nominee. And he joins us now. And so let's start with the very basics on this story. When did you become aware, Chairman Whatley, about this video and this murder, and what is the reaction like as you travel around the state of North Carolina to it's now being released in full totality?

[Michael Whatley]

Sure. You know, I write about the murder the day after it happened. There was. There was a little bit of local coverage down in North Carolina, but really only when the video came out did you get the visuals and understand, you know, how depraved this guy was and how horrific this attack was. You know, before that, it was really just a statistic. And the fact is, you know, that this guy should not have been on that car. He should not have been walking around the city. He should not have been a threat to the people of North Carolina. And so every conversation that I'm having across North Carolina, people are just in shock that this guy was allowed, you know, on the streets after having been arrested 14 different times and let out through a revolving door. And I think a lot of people are very disgusted with the leadership from the Democratic party, which really starts at the top with Roy Cooper, and that they wanted to put in place policies that we're going to foster that revolving door and let these guys out rather than have to pay the punishment to society when they committed crimes.

[Buck Sexton]

Chairman Whatley, it's Buck. Thanks for being here with us. You alluded to this just a moment ago. I'm wondering if you could give us a little bit more detail, because we do like to try to focus on the action items, you know, what could be done differently in the future, what needs to be changed to make these situations far less common than, unfortunately, they are, where there's a repeat offender commits a heinous murder, and then finally the system says, oh, I guess we have to do something about this. What could be different? Whether it's in the city of Charlotte specifically or in North Carolina state law, what would you like to see changed in the system that would make it function better to protect all North Carolinians?

[Michael Whatley]

Yeah. Well, you need to keep repeat offenders off the streets. I think that's the first place that you've got to start. You know, you look at a city like Charlotte, but it's not just Charlotte. I mean, you can look at every single community across North Carolina and you worry about this type of a safety issue. You could go out to California, you can go to New York. And I think that having a system in place where we're going to one back the blue and make sure that they have the resources that they need, all the men and women in uniform to keep our kids and our communities safe. We need to make sure that we're going to do that. But then secondly, they have to be prosecuted and there have to be real consequences. You know, when Roy Cooper signs an executive order that says, I want to reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina, the laws do not need to be reimagined. They need to be enforced. You know, and so that is something that President Trump, thank God, and Pam Bondi, our great attorney general, are working on every single day in every single one of these communities. I find it amazing that the Democratic leadership absolutely lost their mind when President Trump sent federal troops in to quell the riots out in Los Angeles. And then they absolutely are horrified that he said he was going to clean up Washington, D.C. by sending in assistance, which even the mayor, Muriel Bowser, says is a great thing. You know, but everywhere you look, the Democrats are fighting harder for violent criminal, repeat offenders like this than they are the victims. And the carnage that those guys are sowing in our communities.

[Clay Travis]

We get asked this question a lot. What should happen to the judges and the magistrates who are consistently letting violent criminals back out on the streets? The DA's, obviously, who are taking soft on crime deals to allow this to occur are not beyond reproach. We talk about the elected officials. What about the judges themselves. For North Carolinians, and frankly, for Americans all over the country who are outraged by what they've seen in this video, it was eminently predictable that a violent predator would act in violent and predatory fashion. And unfortunately, this young woman was the victim. But it could have been many different young women, young men all over the state of North Carolina. How do we stop this from happening from a judicial perspective?

[Michael Whatley]

Yeah, I think it's a very important note, you know, because in North Carolina, judges are elected. You know, when I took over as the state party chair in North Carolina, Democrats had a 6:1 advantage on the Supreme Court, and they had a majority on the Court of Appeals. I created a judicial victory fund where we raised money specifically to put it into those judicial races. And today we have a conservative Supreme Court, we have a conservative Court of Appeals, and. But that needs to be the case in every one of these localities. You know, that when we see judges who are acting against the interests of their communities, they need to be voted out. Obviously, that's different on a federal level where we have to go through the impeachments. But the judges in all of these different cases were elected in Charlotte, North Carolina. And really, truly there do need to be ramifications when people are going to continually put the interest of criminals ahead of, you know, the community at large. But, you know, speaking of Chairman Whatley.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, sorry, sir. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Michael Whatley]

No, go ahead.

[Buck Sexton]

I was going to ask about this, the status of this, this special. What do they call. There wasn't really a judge, it was a magistrate. Right. That let this individual out the most recent time. A magistrate that didn't pass the bar exam. How can somebody who hasn't proven any ability in the law be entrusted with dispensing justice based on the law? I think a lot of people look at this and say, what is going on?

[Michael Whatley]

Well, I think they should say that. Right. This is really, this is really appalling. And I think it is something structurally that we need to take a look at in North Carolina. Clearly, every state is going to have different laws in terms of how they're dealing with this. But it starts at the top. You know, Roy Cooper was the attorney general and then the governor of North Carolina. And he said very clearly, I want to have a soft on crime policy. I want to reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina. He put these executive orders in place and he set a tone for the rest of the judicial system all the way down to this particular magistrate. And that is just inexcusable. It's a complete failure of leadership at the top.

[Clay Travis]

The campaign is going to be a grueling, arduous undertaking. And I know you're traveling all over North Carolina and I know the answer anytime you say, how do elections get? One is all over a state, all over a community, people have to come out and vote. But I saw this morning, I was watching the press conference of a lot of different Charlotte leaders. Over 100 people, I think, are murdered every year in Charlotte. And so while Irina Zurutzka the video is captivating in an awful and eerie and horrific way, there are at least 99 other plus people who are often innocent victims of violent crime in Charlotte. What is a reasonable thing that a Senate campaign can do over the next year plus to try to shine a light on everybody who is dying, unfortunately, in our large cities often run by Democrats to try to change that story.

[Michael Whatley]

Yeah, look, the safety of our kids and communities is an absolute top tier issue for our campaign. And President Trump ran on this in 2024. It is an issue set that really, truly resonates all across North Carolina. You know, for us to think about the leadership in this state. You know, I go back to 2020 when Antifa riots, they're burning down Raleigh and Roy Cooper, the governor, is out there marching with them. Right. This is not the type of leadership that we need. You know, in Democratic leadership, whether it's aoc, Zoran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders or anybody else, you know, they're out there fighting aggressively for criminals. They're not fighting for families and communities. And I think that is a spotlight we're going to be shining from one end of the state to the other.

[Clay Travis]

It's been almost exactly one year since the Hurricane Helene awfulness happened in western North Carolina. We traveled in there. We have a great affiliate in Nashville. What are you seeing of western North Carolina? How is the recovery going from your perspective?

[Michael Whatley]

Well, look, the people in the communities of western North Carolina are so strong and so resilient. But you know, FEMA and the Cooper administration really failed them when hurricane came through. And so President Trump, when he was put in office, won this election and he was sworn in, his very first trip was to western North Carolina and took me along with him. And I'm grateful for that. And we saw that the devastation that was still in place because Governor Cooper and President Biden had completely failed that region. And since then, the administration has put hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of resources. And it's been, it's not just fema, but it has been a whole of government. Right. Just last week we saw USDA with $220 million of support there. We've seen $1.4 billion coming in in housing assistance from HUD. We've also seen hundreds of millions of dollars that have come in from the Small Business Administration to help the 45,000 small businesses that were affected by that storm. But you know, obviously the FEMA role is tremendously important. I appreciate President asking me to be on the FEMA Review Council to take a look at what happened coming out of Hurricane Helene and make sure that we don't ever have a response like that again.

[Buck Sexton]

Chairman Whatley, where can folks go to help out? Learn more about all of the above for your campaign.

[Michael Whatley]

Wadley4senate.com and we certainly need a movement all across North Carolina. It is going to be the marquee Senate race in the entire country. You know, we go back.

[Buck Sexton]

Can I ask you, sorry, what kind of money are the Democrats going to throw into this race? Would you guess just put the like if you were to ballpark it for.

[Michael Whatley]

Me, I fully expect the Democrats will spend 250 to $300 million in this race in North Carolina. And they are not going to have it is absolutely staggering, the amount of money that the Democrats are throwing at this. And of course, it's coming from Chicago, it's coming from St. Louis, it's coming from San Francisco, it's coming from New York and everywhere else other than North Carolina. But the fact is we need a senator who is going to fight for every family in every community and state. And President Trump needs an ally in the Senate. And I'm going to be that voice.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you, Chairman Whatley. Good luck. We'll have you on, I'm sure again soon to talk about the North Carolina Senate campaign, which is going to be one of the biggest battlegrounds in all of the midterms next year. Thank you.

[Michael Whatley]

Yeah, thank you, guys.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, third hour of Clay and Buck gets going right now, everybody. Thank you for being here with us. And something that got well, honestly, just move down the news priority list because of some of the huge things that have been going on this week. But want to spend some time to talk to you about it because it is one of those broad conversations about politics and America and what's going on today that answers a lot of questions right now and also gives us a sense as to what the future is going to look like. What is going on when it comes to men and women and their views of life specifically for Gen Z adults. Not all of our boomers. Boomers listening. We love you. This matters, as you know, cuz these are your kids or grandkids in many cases and they shall inherit this republic of ours. And there's some really stark differences. This is from NBC News polling data about people 18 to 29 years old. So that's Gen Z. I am a gray beard millennial. Clay, what are you? Silent generation. You're some, you're some other, you're not a millennial.

[Clay Travis]

I am the youngest Gen X. You're a Gen X. So I am the youngest generation member of the generation that has saved America by supporting Donald Trump more than any other generation.

[Buck Sexton]

My older who is also of your generation. You guys are the same age. Mason, very quick to point out that Gen X probably has the best generation rep right now. Certainly in the, in the media world like everyone's like Gen X just getting it done all cool and you know, collected millennials. We got some rough stuff because we complained a lot about the housing and mortgage meltdown stuff in 2008 and what that did to our careers. But let's, let's look at the Gen Z situation right now because Clay, perhaps this is something you've addressed in your upcoming book balls. Yes, Men, men are trending in a very clear direction in that generation. So young men, young adult men right now. This is from NBC News data. Young men who voted for Trump. So Gen Z18 to 29 who voted for Trump. What is a important to a personal definition of success? 34% of them said having children, 33% financial independence, 30% fulfilling job, career, 29% being married and then they go into some other things, doing what you want, being grounded spiritually. 24% got to get those are rookie numbers on spiritual Grant. But you know, you Got to get that up a little bit. Making community proud, all this stuff, right? Women who voted for Harris, this is what was really stark. So remember, young men who vote for Trump, young women who vote for Harris, that's what we're looking at here. 51% said, fulfilling job or career. That's the number one thing by far. Fulfilling job, having money to do what you want. 46% emotional stability, which a lot of these women got to work on, I got to tell you. 39%, financial independence. 32%, using your talents. 37%, owning a home. 20%, having children. Clay and being married were tied for them at the very bottom of the list at 6%. This is a vision of two paths for the genders in America as defined by political affiliation today or separated by political affiliation today. All these women who are voting for Harris, who are in their 20s, don't care at all about family formation, which is stunning, honestly. You see that data? It is stunning.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's a sign. And this is probably going to get clipped, so prepare yourselves for the headlines. Ooh, I love, I love it when he does this.

[Buck Sexton]

Whereas Media matters. Go for it. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's a sign that women are. Have been sold a mass delusion. A lot of young women. And let me explain why. The only reason to want, in my opinion, a fulfilling job and a career is so you can afford to have a family.

[Buck Sexton]

I.

[Clay Travis]

Look, there are relatively few people whose careers are so important that they change the world. Ok. If you told me right now, hey, Elon Musk. Yeah. He might not be a great dad. I think he's an incredible. I know he might be a great dad. I'm not saying it's a negative, but I'm saying, like, his career is so important potentially to the future of the civilization that I can say, okay, that seems like a really good use of his time. You would want, I think, people who are supreme geniuses, if you could have two kids or you could solve cancer, I would submit to you. Ideally, you could do both. But if you had to choose, curing cancer would be a better societal benefit than you having two kids. Most people have jobs, though, not to cure cancer or to solve all the issues that Elon Musk is trying to solve, but just to be able to have the resources to have children, it's a.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a means to an end to paying bills. That's why you get paid for it. If it were fun, they wouldn't have to pay you for it. Now, some jobs, there's like Clay and I are lucky. We both love our jobs and we get paid for it. But it took a long time to get to a place where that was the case. And this is the reality for a lot of women. Clay, right now. I saw this from my graduating class at Amherst, okay, At Amherst College, there are all these women who at that time were going into management consulting, like McKinsey, Bain, remember where Mitt Romney was, or they went into investment banking. That is a situation where you are going to work 80 hours a week for years and years and years to make money. You are not curing cancer. You are not. All of the women that I knew who went into that dropped out. All of them dropped out because that is not the way that they want to spend their lives. But society had set them up for this. Society had convinced them that this is what they should do.

[Clay Travis]

I also think, and Again, these are 18 to 29 year olds, women who voted for Harris, men who voted for Trump. I also think it is likely to be the number one complaint of the Harris voting women that they can't find good men worth dating and having families with. But all of the young men who are Trump voters actually want to get married and have kids and the women don't want to. And here's the other thing about this that I think is indicative of having been sold a false bill of goods. And by the way, 800-282-2882. So maybe you are in this 18 to 29 year old female group and you want to react. Maybe you are in the male group. Uh, but what is interesting to me about this as well, Buck, is the women should be the ones focused on having children because, and I don't want to throw anybody into a full panic here, but a 29 year old woman who hasn't gotten married and hasn't had kids has a biological clock to worry about that a 29 year old man does not have in the same way to worry about. So if anything, these should be flipped, Buck, because women, because of biology, have to think about having children at younger ages than men do.

[Buck Sexton]

If you're over 35, it's a geriatric. It's officially medically a geriatric pregnancy. That's what they call it, a geriatric pregnancy. And the risk factors go up all across. They should tell people this in schools, by the way. I didn't learn this stuff until I was an adult, to be honest with you. I didn't know all the things, all the risk factors that increase. Now, I'm not Saying that, that people can make their own life choices. Some people just want to have a career. Some people don't have a family. It's not about denying anybody a choice. It's about giving them the facts and the reality of what is likely and what is true in general or true in the aggregate about these things. And for most women, I mean, you know, I'll put it this way, Clay. Most guys that I know, if they weren't trying to date and. Or get, you know, date and get married, would work a lot less hard. Yeah. I mean, they'd spend a lot more time and leisure and whatever, but they want to build something. They want to be providers. There's something instinctive and instinctual for men about this. For women, they are generally, not always. Generally set up differently for what will be a successful and happy life path, but the influences. Now, you grew up in a more traditional Americana place than I did. So I can speak from the New York City perspective, which is the same in Los Angeles and very similar in Chicago and very similar in D.C. and, you know, these urban centers where the women of my generation were all told, you need to be. You need to compete with men in the workplace. You need to spend the same kind of hours. You need to put your career first and figure out family later. And I have seen it now that I'm in my 40s. This has resulted in life path disappointment and in some cases, devastation for a lot of very talented and, you know, wonderful young women who now can't have families or never had a family. And they want to. I'm not talking to the people that don't want to. They want to, but they got their timelines mixed up. I see this women who vote for Harris thing, and none of them care about being married or having children. They're going to change their. Also for what? You can be the first female VP at the marketing firm at age 35 or at age 40. That's. Guys generally want to do that so they can have a wife and kids that they can provide for.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. What you are aspiring to, to be a suit in middle management is what people usually do so they can have kids. And when I look at this, I just think that young women have been sold a bill of goods on what the goal of life is. Because if your goal is just to amass job title and then die by yourself, okay, that seems kind of lonely. It seems not very fulfilling. And I just think that a lot of young women, and I think, frankly, Buck, this is what you're seeing. These women they get older. They deeply inside, this is me psychoanalyzing. They deeply inside, reject some of the choices that they made to give up a family to be, to your point of VP in a bland accounting firm or something. No offense to everybody out there working in accounting, but I don't think people are doing cartwheels into the accounting office every day because they feel like they're changing the world in such a positive way and they make politics their life's focus because they have to pour their energy and their soul and their them and vigor and vitality into something and it's not motherhood. And instead it's Donald Trump is Hitler. I thought about this Gen Z thing when I saw Trump goes to a steakhouse and there's just a bunch of chicks that show up and scream a chant that he's Hitler to him. And you can watch Trump walk over and kind of look at him like, you chicks are crazy. Like, you can kind of see it as, I guarantee you in his head he's like, what are these girls doing? Like, how is your life's ambition to show up when somebody's eating at a steakhouse and call him Hitler? I think you've given up the plot on life and I think you're.

[Buck Sexton]

There's a lot of, a lot of projection, the psychologists would call it, of their frustration that they externalize in order to avoid dealing with the realities of the choices that they have made. So Trump is Hitler gives them something to feel bigger than themselves and like they, they're a part of something because a lot of them, the choices that they have made, don't let them feel that way day in and day out. You know, I mean, I tell my friends this and my family this clay at the most basic level, not getting into the spiritual and, you know, being a Catholic who's trying to now become actually more of a, of a real Catholic and going back to the church, but just on a, on a basic day to day level. I just think that take care of your people is, is my basic life philosophy. Obviously your family first and then the people around you. And that can keep you really busy. If you're actually doing that, if you're taking care of your people, you really don't have time to like those sad people we saw in D.C. at the inauguration to be out in the freezing cold for six hours shouting about how Trump is Hitler with nobody listening, you know. Yeah, but if you don't have that and you're not taking care of you, and I don't just mean having Kids, and some people can't have kids, and we're sensitive to that, of course, but the people around you making decisions to be meaningful in their lives and to have that, that consideration and that discipline in your day to day, that's hard. Showing up with your purple hair and your screaming and your, you know, your Trump is, is, is the Antichrist. Although they probably wouldn't put it that way. He's Hitler. That's easy. That's just, that's just narcissism.

[Clay Travis]

Here's a question for you as we go to break and I'd be curious to hear from people again. This is an NBC News poll. 18 to 29 year old voters, what they care about, male and female. How many women are lying? Because when I saw these numbers, I'm like, like, how many women feel bad to say, hey, what matters to me is having, getting married and having kids because they feel like they're turning their back on feminism if they say that. And so they're just lying because they think other people want to hear. It's crazy to me that 51% of people would say my career is my top priority.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know, man. I had, before I met my wife and the love of my life, I had, I had women bail on dates that I'd asked them out on because they found out that I was a Trumper. So they said, look, you may be incredibly charming and have amazing hair, but you voted for Trump and I have to back out of this now. They didn't say that first part, but that's what they were thinking. So I'm just saying some of these ladies are crazy.

[Clay Travis]

I think some of them are crazy. I think women are more susceptible to worrying about what others think in general than men are. And so I wonder whether they're being honest in their responses.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's get, let's get some Gen Z to weigh in on this one. Gen Z, Clay and Buckland out there, or parents of. How about that? We'll, we'll take your thoughts on this. But look, you know what I'm doing actually, right after the show, true story. I'm gonna be pulling out some steaks from good ranchers. I'm gonna be thawing them out. Actually, I use a sous vide, so that means I can just pick them in a few hours. I'm good to go. Good ranchers, absolutely delicious. You heard Clay and I talking about it. But you can't go to a steakhouse without getting ripped off these days. It's just, it's crazy. It's so expensive. But what if you can get steakhouse quality steak at home? I mean, the meat is that level better really in most cases. And that's what you get with good ranchers. So it's an incredible savings and the meat is amazing. And I love good ranchers. I had a steak night here when Clay was visiting. We absolutely tore into some delicious steaks from good ranchers and by the way, all American farmers and ranchers. No antibiotics, no hormones, no seed oil. We're subscribers. I am and Clay are. We get boxes every month from good ranchers and it's like Christmas morning when they arrive. So get your own good Rancher subscription going. 25 bucks off each month and free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. I'm talking about either bacon or chicken nuggets or even wagyu burgers and you can swap the gift out each month to try something new. All you have to do is use code buck, go to goodranchers.com, use promo code Buck. Get yourself set up. Get your meat delivered every month. You'll get a one time $40 discount plus the $25 ongoing discount, $65 off this month plus free Meat for Life goodranchers.com promo code BUCK.

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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