Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 15 2025

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Daily Review with Clay and Buck
Date: September 15, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Summary prepared for listeners who want all the context, insights, and key moments.

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Main Theme

This episode is dominated by the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, its profound personal and political aftermath, the charged reactions across the ideological spectrum, and discussions about cultural rot, extremism, and public safety. Clay and Buck reflect on the national response, the dehumanization they perceive from the political left, the alleged motive and context of the assassin, and hear from Senator Marsha Blackburn about both the tragedy and public safety responses in Memphis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s Death

(00:31–02:59, 44:28–47:50)

• Both hosts frame the week as emotionally brutal, noting the widespread shock and sadness, not only amongst political circles but sports fans and “normal” people.
• Buck relates the aftermath to his post-9/11 awakening: “It does remind me, Clay, a little bit of after 9/11 … there was a call, a literal call to arms… I think this is for conservatism here at home. This is also turning into a moment of clarity that we won’t be able to shake now.” (04:12)

2. Widespread, “Demonic” Reactions to the Assassination

(03:01–06:00, 29:49–38:07)

• Clay and Buck express horror at celebratory reactions, especially from professionals like teachers, nurses, and public employees. They discuss the dehumanization of Kirk and draw comparisons to left-wing reactions following 9/11.
• Buck: “What I think, though, is such a shock to people is the widespread nature of this, that there are so many people out there who are just not like everyday people ... could be a homemaker, could be someone who runs a hardware store … saying absolutely insane things in response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.” (03:08)
• They support firing any taxpayer-funded public employee who celebrated Kirk’s murder, emphasizing such sentiment as “a failure of the basic standard of humanity.” (32:51–41:21)

3. Details on the Assassin, Motive, and Ideological Implications

(07:26–13:17, 15:26–24:08)

• Buck reports the killer was in a romantic relationship with a transitioning, trans individual; that person is reportedly cooperating with the FBI.
• Early indications and social media posts suggest some members of the trans online community discussed the possibility of violence at Kirk’s event beforehand, raising questions about coordination and ideological encouragement.
• Buck frames this as a form of “trans terrorism” that must be taken as seriously as Islamist terrorism, urging a counterterror task force approach: “How many mass casualty ideologically-based attacks do we have to have before there is an understanding and treatment of this issue as systemic—as in trans terrorism is a threat?” (10:22)

4. Media Misinformation and Spin

(16:03–20:23)

• The hosts describe left-wing media and social media attempts to paint the assassin as a Trump-supporting right-winger, arguing those narratives collapse under scrutiny.
• Clay explains: “He was a smart kid, 34 on the ACT, 4.0 GPA… then got lost in left-wing ideology... a super far left winger, mentally unstable, clearly.” (17:13)
• They detail that bullets had “left-wing slogans,” and discuss how confusion on the killer’s gender identity and relationships is being exploited to muddy the narrative.

5. Online Radicalization & Dehumanization

(22:29–25:22)

• The vast potential for online communities, particularly those around fringe ideologies, to radicalize individuals is highlighted. Clay references Reddit and Discord as "crazy echo chambers.”
• Buck connects it to his intelligence experience: “Dehumanization is critical in the mass delusion. They dehumanize Charlie Kirk … He’s a dad, he’s a husband, he’s a son. All of that gets swept aside.” (24:28)

6. Calls For Cultural Reform and Reclaiming Humanity

(52:26–56:21; 23:20; 44:28–53:13)

• Hosts and Marsha Blackburn stress the need to “fix the rot in our culture” through rebuilding family, church, and community structures, and by limiting kids’ exposure to radicalizing online environments.
• Senator Blackburn: “We cannot turn a blind eye… It is incumbent on us to push back and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk.” (46:15)

7. Public Policy and Security: Memphis Crisis

(47:50–52:26)

• Senator Blackburn discusses former President Trump’s plan to deploy the National Guard in Memphis to address gang violence and murder rates. She reports past joint FBI/Memphis police efforts improved safety, and believes further National Guard support will free up local police for anti-gang work.
• Memphis’s logistics infrastructure (river, rail, highways, air) is being targeted by organized crime, making a “multi-phase, interdisciplinary strategy” crucial.

8. Standards for Public Speech, Firing, and Cancel Culture

(32:51–41:21, 38:07–41:21)

• Clay: “If you are a public employee… if you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination.”
• Buck pushes back on left-wing “cancel culture” hypocrisy: “Of course they wanted people to get fired for using the wrong pronouns. Okay? These are the people that now all of a sudden are free speech absolutists.” (39:56)
• Both agree private companies should decide their own policies, but no public/taxpayer employee should cross “basic standards of humanity.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On dehumanization:
  Buck (24:28): “Dehumanization is critical in the mass delusion. And they dehumanize Charlie Kirk. They turned him into an avatar of some, you know, anti-trans genocidal evil ... he’s a good person.”
• On cultural rot:
  Clay (53:13): “If your soul is so dark that when you see a father murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open mic… the soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How do we fix the rot in our culture?”
• On standards for firing:
  Clay (32:51): “I think if you are a public employee, I think you should be fired … I don’t believe our taxpayer dollars should go for that... There is a standard for basic humanity.”
• On online radicalization:
  Clay (23:20): “How do you get your kids off your phone and how do you get your kids into the real world? I think in an internet age it’s more important than ever ... it takes you out of the crazy echo chambers of the Internet which radicalize you and make you think that what you are working towards is normalcy.”
• Sen. Blackburn on action versus evil:
  Blackburn (46:15): “While we turn the other cheek and we know to turn the other cheek to evil, we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent on us to remember that we have to push back and fight against evil.”
• Buck recalling 9/11 wakeup:
  Buck (04:12): “After 9/11 ... it was in part because ... there were a lot of people ... whose attitude was, ‘we got what was coming to us’...”
• Bill Maher’s remembrance of Charlie Kirk:
  Bill Maher (30:49): “Charlie Kirk was a guy who ... was always talking. And I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers say what you want about them, but they talk to you … [not] I don't talk to you, I don't want to deal with you ... He’s a human being. He’s not a monster.”
• Caller Krista (35:23): Recounts that her children’s youth ministry leader, a firefighter and EMT, celebrated Kirk’s death by saying “one less maggot on this world.” She’s appalled and supports firing such people from working with youth.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Charlie Kirk’s assassination – reactions and analysis | 00:31–06:00 | | Host reflections, media spin on motive | 07:26–13:17 | | Online radicalization, First Amendment concerns | 13:14–24:08 | | Left-wing narrative collapse, identity politics | 16:03–20:23 | | Cultural rot, youth exposure, dehumanization | 22:29–25:22 | | Standards for public speech and employment | 32:51–41:21 | | Marsha Blackburn on Kirk, youth responses | 44:28–47:50 | | Crime in Memphis, National Guard intervention | 47:50–52:26 | | Fixing cultural rot, social media’s negative impact | 52:26–56:21 |

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Overall Episode Tone

• Serious, urgent, and combative, with flashes of dark humor.
  Both hosts are grappling with grief, angrily denouncing what they see as left-wing hypocrisy and dehumanization, and urging a kind of cultural revival and moral reckoning.

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For Further Context

• Senator Marsha Blackburn joins (44:28) to offer her witness of Kirk’s cultural reach, thoughts on cultural repair, and details on public safety in Memphis.
• Bill Maher’s remarks (30:45) serve as liberal testimony to Kirk’s basic humanity and willingness to dialogue.
• The show includes a listener call (35:23) that dramatizes how regular Americans are seeing the decency divide play out at the personal level.

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Note

• Non-content sections, such as ads, promotions, and show intros/outros, have been omitted. All content focuses on discussions, analysis, and interviews.

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This episode underscores the cultural fault lines in America through the lens of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the reactions it generated, and the wider questions it raises about decency, dialogue, and the future of national discourse.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

YouTube ch channel welcome in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show Monday Edition. We hope all of you had fantastic weekends. We are together in New York City. A lot going on this week, a lot going on over the course of the weekend. I hope that you got to spend time with your friends and your family after what was frankly an absolutely brutal last week. The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination continues. We're going to give you the absolute latest on that. We'll also continue to take your calls and talk backs. Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is going to join us in the third hour as Trump has announced that he is calling the National Guard out for Memphis, Tennessee, which is, according to a lot of data sets out there, the most violent city in America on a per capita basis. We will talk about that. But Buck, I would say this. I was in Knoxville, Tennessee for the Georgia Tennessee football game, which is a great game until Tennessee shanked a kick to lose. Governor Brian Kemp immediately texted me right after. He was like, boy, Greg, he's a huge Georgia Bulldog fan. Great game. Like, thanks, Governor. I'm a big Tennessee fan. But people came up to me, Buck. Everybody who came up to me wanted to talk about Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

No, I mean at the game. At the game, where 99.9% of the time when I'm at a football game, people want to almost exclusively talk about sports. Everybody who came up to me wanted to talk about Charlie Kirk and the impact that he had had on their life and what I think is the continued fallout of. I have to be honest with you, Buck, I knew that there would be a segment, because there always is on social media of people that are awful and react to tragedy by celebrating and marinating in the awfulness. I'm still stunned about the extent of the celebratory reaction to his assassination, and I didn't have high expectations for how the left would respond. But when I see the number of people who are teachers talking about, you know, not university professors, certainly a lot of university professors, which I'm less surprised by because we've kind of seen this a lot.

[Buck Sexton]

District attorneys, pediatric nurses, doctors. You know what this is showing you? Everybody in every profession out there is possibly an anti Charlie Kirk loon. Like you can't say, oh, well, this person operates in the real world. So they, they would never. I can trust my doctor. I could trust my, my next door neighbor. No, you don't know until you know whether somebody has failed this most basic test of morality. I think that's what's. So it's one thing, Clay, to see the usual imbeciles in the media, but. And they're all, they're all losing ground, they're all losing relevance that's been going on. So it's not surprising. It's still grotesque, but not surprising for them. What I think, though, is such a shock to people is the, the widespread nature of this, that there are so many people out there who are just not like everyday people. That's what I. They're just, you know, could be. Could be a homemaker, could be somebody who runs a local hardware store, and they're saying absolutely insane things in response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who was, as we've talked about, not just a political and social phenomenon, but a dad, a husband, a son, somebody who was incredibly decent and kind to people. So that, That I think, has been something of an awakening. It does remind me, Clay, a little bit of after 911 there I just from my own political awakening and why I decided, like, why did I go in the CIA and not go into Wall street like all my peers did? And it was in part because after 9 11, one, we had been attacked. But two, I had a recognition that there were a lot of people around the world and here at home who, after 9 11, their attitude was, we got what was coming to us, we deserved it, or there even should be. If you're talking about globally, there should be more of it. And so there was a call, a literal call to arms for so many of us to go and fight. I think this is for conservatism here at home. This is also turning into a moment of clarity that we won't be able to shake now. It's a. It's a clarion call in some ways. Right? It's like we're all now recognizing. You mentioned Clay. I just had. I went across the street where Clay and I are here in New York, went across the street to get a coffee, and someone came up to me and said, I love what you guys are doing. And he said, I'm so sad about Charlie. And he said, you need to keep doing what you're doing. Yeah, Charlie would want that. That's part of, that's part of what I'm hearing from everybody too. He was our, he was our friend, but he was also our peer. We were on the same team. What we wanted for the country is what Charlie wanted for the country. And so I'm hearing that for, from a lot of people as they come up to me. But we have to understand the, the reality of the opposition and where they are on these things and the lack of decency and the lack of basic morality. And we have to confront this 100%.

[Clay Travis]

All of that is true. It's also important and we're going to do our absolute best to keep you updated on all of the details. I'm sure you saw. They have put, I think they recognize on the left that a lot of normal people, let's leave aside the crazy celebrations. I think a lot of normal people who are apolitical. The idea that you would celebrate a dad getting assassinated at a free speech event, it does turn off huge segments of, let's call just the normal people in America who aren't paying attention to politics on a daily basis but just say, my God, you're celebrating pure evil. Whatever you think about Charlie, he's got a three year old, he's got a one year old, he's got a widow. Now the idea that anybody would celebrate any dad's death ever, I think for both of us as dads is just awful. I mean, just leave aside all of the rest of it. They recognize, I think there's a recognition on some elements of the left that they, that they can't turn off the crazy in their party. And so they have tried to argue and I think we should dive into some of this. Oh, this guy was actually a right winger. And they have probably have heard some of this. And I think we need to address this in detail because there is a concerted effort to just rewrite the history about why the motivation of this killer.

[Buck Sexton]

A big thing that we haven't gotten to a big reveal from over the weekend is that it has been reported from multiple sources and confirmed from high up that the shooter, the assassin, was in a romantic relationship with a transitioning, as in a trans individual. Now that trans individual is cooperating with the FBI at last reporting. But that I think goes to ideology, it goes to motive, it goes to our understanding of this Guy, this guy was in a relationship with a trans person. Physical, like a romantic relationship with a trans person. And the more you dig into the ideology, the more this aligns with, you know, he is, he was not trans. But the single clay this goes back for a long time. I was told by one of the National Review guys, I won't say who it was, but, you know, I actually like a lot of those guys. I know some of them have gone very, a little anti Trump, but some of them are very good dudes. But I was told by one of them a long time ago, I'm talking a decade ago, that he was, he'd been writing for dec. He himself been working in this politics commentary for decades. Said he was shocked at how he got more death threats writing about the trans issue than anything else. Than cops and race issues, than abortion, than the trans issue was the thing that that got. And this was going back now many years. This was like Obama administration era. And I never forgot that. And we're seeing now, if you're looking for left wing radicalism, if you're looking for what is the center of that challenge, that problem, that dragon that must be dealt with here it is the trans issue. And at a lesser level, I think some of the cop and race stuff that comes up, but those are the two that will get you people on the left who will go the most violent, the fastest. Isn't it also in terms of climate change, which they told us was an existential threat. No one even thinks about this anymore. Yeah. My point is that they shift from one delusion to another and this is the delusion of the moment that they will become violent over.

[Clay Travis]

There are a lot of evidence points out there and again, the FBI is in the process of going through this that suggest that multiple members of the trans community were posting that Charlie was going to get killed at this location at this point in time. Now how often does that happen? I think it's fair to say is this occurring when they're regularly. In other words, are there lots of people when he's speaking at X University that are going on social media and saying, well, something's going to happen there? I think that's fair to say. But these posts were up that are saying something is happening, he's going to get killed at this location. And the FBI is now investigating whether this may have been a part of a larger plan. Again, remember, he was shot as the question was being asked about felt very.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean the timing of it felt way too, way too big a coincidence for it to actually be a coincidence. And we're certainly, I know that was asked of, of Deputy Bongino on Fox this morning and he said we're, you know, he, all he can say and he's right is we're looking at it. We're looking at everything. And that is what they're doing right now. But this is Clay. I mean I can tell you when I was in the NYPD intelligence division, I would say 95, which is counterterrorism. And they've changed the terms and now it's bureau. But put all that aside. 95, 98%. I want to say 100% but I just don't want to be, you know, that that definitive was jihadist terrorism. That's what we were working on. But you know that they had just to, just to be fair, just to make sure that everyone knew that they were, they had a white supremacist cell there, you know, group that looked at them. They were very bored. It had almost nothing to do. Would always help us with our work. But they did assign people. Now they also had people looking to be fair at antifa stuff too because they had already started to become a violent group. But I'm saying as somebody who's worked in counterterrorism, how, let me, let me pose this question which I'm obviously leading to an answer here. How many mass casualty ideologically based attacks do we have to have before there is an understanding and a treatment of this issue as systemic as in trans terrorism is a threat that the country must deal with and face.

[Clay Travis]

Now I think we're past that point by far. Right. Which is where you're going exactly.

[Buck Sexton]

Every, the FBI. This needs to be treated like a task force. This needs to be treated like the, with the urgency that it should have. And you know, we're going to have all the same, all the civil rights and they're going to say you're looking at this community. You know, we went through this with, with the jihadist stuff we've gone through and they tried to go through this with Trump voters and January 6, right. They used the counterterrorism apparatus against nonviolent grandmas who walked into a building that they were waved into. Cuz we saw the video. I know there were some people who are violent with cops. A lot of people are violent with cops and don't even spend a single day in jail as long as they're Democrats.

[Clay Travis]

Including the entire BLM era.

[Buck Sexton]

All of it. All of it. Right. But we are at a point now and this is why this is an ideological challenge for the country. We can't go past this. And I think that's what the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk has made it inescapable for anyone who is paying attention. We have a real challenge here. It is widespread. This is the same thing, Clay, with. With jihadist ideology. There were the suicide bombers, but then there were the facilitators, and then there were the spiritual sanctuary sanction sanctioners, and then there were the. You know, you go through these concentric circles of who is involved and who is pushing what and how are they a part of this movement. Go on Discord. Go online. You'll see a lot of people that are saying this stuff.

[Clay Travis]

Reddit and blue sky is crazy, is insane.

[Buck Sexton]

Blue sky, the night of Charlie's assassination, I was on it. It was the most horrifying thing I've ever read in my life. Honestly, it was completely insane. And now we're going to get into this First Amendment debate, right? They're going to say what's allowed, what's not. Well, incitement to violence is not allowed. Material support to terrorism is not allowed. We need to start looking at this issue with the same kind of focus that has been used at other times when we faced an ideological threat. And that is what we are under right now as a country. And that is just the truth. And I'll debate that issue with anybody who wants to debate it, no doubt. Look, today, among all the news, there's a quiet struggle going on in the minds of thousands of women nationwide what to do with an unplanned pregnancy. They've got options, but a lot of the time they're being pushed toward abortion. This is where preborn comes in. Now, as you all know, Charlie was a huge, huge advocate for this organization, Preborn. He was the keynote speaker at their fundraisers. I know that Charlie was very proud to be affiliated with them, and we are, too. Preborn is saving lives every day because instead of just allowing women to be pushed by the massive abortion industry toward abortion, Preborn steps in and says, hey, hold on a second. Let's give you a free ultrasound, and let's just talk about the life that's growing in your womb. Let's bring this baby into the world. And we, meaning preborn, will support you, will help you. Now, I know a lot of you've got stuff going on in your own lives and you're busy. Preborn is there to do this work for you. So if you're pro life, they're stepping in and they're filling that void and they're trying to save lives. They need your support, though. You don't have to run the clinics, but you can support the clinics. Over 350,000 babies have been saved through preborn's life giving work. For just $28 a month, you can save a life. That's the price of an ultrasound. $28 a month. Dial pound250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound250. Say the word baby or go to preborn.com buck preborn.com buck, you ain't imagining it.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot of you weighing in on a variety of different angles relating to the Charlie Kirk story. We're going to get into this probably next hour, Buck, and we'll take some of your talkbacks right now. But I think it's incredibly important for all of you to know that there, there is a calculated decision made to try and make it seem and I know this is going to sound crazy to a lot of you, but I think it's important. You know, I like I say, I read the New York Times and and all the crazy left wing talk so.

[Buck Sexton]

You don't have to be watching Morning Joe.

[Clay Travis]

It's like Buck watching Morning Joe. We try to make you aware of what everybody is saying across the political spectrum. Over the weekend there was a calculated attempt to try to make this assassin seem like he was a Trump supporting right winger. I even saw a prominent left wing accounts Buck trying to say Charlie Kirk was killed because he wasn't right wing enough. That was one of the arguments they were trying to make. Now it is collapsing because there is no evidence to support that. But if you have left wing friends, they may be marinating in this universe where they're claiming that this violence came from the right. It did not. Okay, this guy. Just to kind of lay out a couple of facts, this guy had a family that tended to be conservative. That is true. He went off to college and seems to have lost his mind. He was a smart kid, 34 on the ACT. I was reading about him, 4.0 GPA.

[Buck Sexton]

What's a 34 in the ACT?

[Clay Travis]

Just curious. Out of 36. So it's like a 99th percentile caliber score. So one in a thousand level standardized test score. So the kid was smart and then got lost in left wing ideology, as you pointed out, is Living with and has. I don't even know what you would call it.

[Buck Sexton]

He's dating a trans person.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. But it's not like a boyfriend or a girl. I don't even know. He's dating a dude who's pretending to be a chick now. Is that right?

[Buck Sexton]

That is correct, yes. So he is deciding a sexual relationship with a man who, who, who presents. Presents as female or whatever.

[Clay Travis]

All of the reports about the engravings on the bullets as we walked through our left wing slogan.

[Buck Sexton]

I believe the girlfriend boy. I'm sorry, the boy.

[Clay Travis]

Whatever.

[Buck Sexton]

He is trans. The trans, you know, partner is also a Furry. Yeah, no, no, I'm just, I'm just.

[Clay Travis]

Thinking how are we going to explain to this?

[Buck Sexton]

I will be honest with you, I do not. This is that reaches. There's this whole online discord, the some of the words that are being used for the trans stuff. I'm actually learning some new things about that because I don't. And furries I am only familiar with in a very limited fashion.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

So somebody who dresses up as a. Again, guys, I understand this is just true.

[Clay Travis]

I'm actually looking forward to Buck explaining furries to this audience.

[Buck Sexton]

Furry is someone who dresses up as a woodland creature for sexual purposes. That is, that is the truth. Is it.

[Clay Travis]

Does it have to be a woodland character or could you be like a Care Bear?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I think that, I think that is. That is what. You're having the same kind of idea. Like you dress up as an animal.

[Clay Travis]

Basically you are dressing up as an animal as like a Disney sort of character, but not a. Like an animal Disney character.

[Buck Sexton]

We have reached the limit of my knowledge.

[Clay Travis]

Thank. Thankfully. Thankfully I am not very well versed in this world either. But my point on this is all of the bullets.

[Buck Sexton]

But can you say you're not. You're not emotionally psychologically normal?

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

If I'm talking about now the assassin. If this is what you're. What you're going for, there's. There's problems here.

[Clay Travis]

I would say you are not psychologically normal. If you are a guy and you are dating a man that is deciding to transition to a woman. I'm sorry, who dresses up like a.

[Buck Sexton]

Like a bunny rabbit. It's fun.

[Clay Travis]

Super freaking weird. This guy's mental crazy stuff. And there is a lot of evidence as well that again, he was a super far left winger, mentally unstable, clearly. And there is a lot of evidence out there that many different people in the trans community in the state of Utah, which does exist by the way, were aware that something was going to happen here. And so I think it's very important for you all to understand there is a calculated attempt because of how embarrassing this is and how awful this is for the left.

[Buck Sexton]

They don't want to take the hit ideologically. They don't want this. Yeah. They want to claim that this is. This is not on their side, so to speak. And I just note, you know, they've tried for a very long time to say that the guy who shot Gabby Giffords was right wing. I mean that guy was a pink elephants in the sky paranoid schizophrenic of no particular ideological cohesion whatsoever. I mean, you couldn't figure out. But they try very hard to make that because we have a long list now of very left wing people who. There was the guy who was yelling, Rand Paul. Senator Paul told us on this show the guy was screaming, this is for health care.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And he was a Bernie. A Bernie broke shooting at those congressional members. Conservatives, he said, are these conservative members of Congress. When he was walking the baseball field with that rifle shot, Steve Scalise tried to murder everybody there but Clay. They don't want this to, they don't want this to sort of seep into the American consciousness because the second it does, there's a radicalizing effect here toward. We have to deal with this problem.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And we, and you just mentioned people that might have known about this in advance. I would just say, what does it tell you if there were other people either supportive of or within the trans ideology? And this is very clearly, I mean, you think about people, people have committed ideological acts of terrorism for the environment, people. For far less than the so called genocide against the trans community that the left believes is going on. So now we look at, okay, who knew that something was coming and didn't say anything.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Who knew that Charlie Kirk was in danger and didn't go to the authorities. Now you can claim one way there. Oh, well, maybe that doesn't rise to criminal culpability. Maybe they. Yeah, let's take a look at that. And I know Director, Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino are going to be as. They should take a look at that. Because how could this be any different than, you know, someone saying, you know what, I'm building a bomb and I'm going to go put it in a, in a synagogue. Something we dealt with when I was the nypd.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

How is it any different than that lack of basic humanity to say that I'm going to try to stop this from happening and innocents from Being killed.

[Clay Travis]

I think also what you're going to see is some of these places online. And again, we'll get into this. Some of these places online are crazy echo chambers. And when you go into these communities, they radicalize you because you lose the capability of understanding the real world. I thought the governor of Utah actually did a good job of this. And I know so many of you have kids and grandkids and you worry about this. The radicalizing impact of an entirely online culture getting out into the real world is actually healthy.

[Buck Sexton]

He has said some not so good things too, as you know, I'm just. We're going to get hit on that unless we point out that this. It is not a. Both side. Both sides. The second someone does the both sides thing, I, you know, shut it down. No way.

[Clay Travis]

Uh, but I do think this is something that I. I spend a lot of time with as a dad, and I know a lot of you as parents and grandparents. How do you get your kids off your phone and how do you get your kids into the real world? This is why somebody sent me an email and I thought it was really well said. You know, getting kids involved in sports and getting kids involved in extracurricular activities. I think in an Internet age is more important than it ever has been in the past because it forces them to have that face to face interaction in the real world which takes you out of the crazy echo chambers of the Internet which radicalize you and make you think that what you are working towards is normalcy.

[Buck Sexton]

You couldn't do what this. If you were an even vaguely psychologically stable and had anything resembling a conscience, you couldn't do what this person did to Charlie Kirk. If you recognized him as a human being and a dad and a father, you couldn't do that.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

The way. And I've seen this. I go back to the days when Clay, we had a whole unit going into. Look, I was in the CIA. We used to see what these jihadis were saying online, what they thought they were saying in encrypted comms, what they thought they were saying on cell phones. I mean, so you really get in the head. Dehumanization is critical in the mass delusion. And they dehumanize Charlie Kirk. They turned him into an avatar of some, you know, anti trans genocidal evil in reality. First. I mean, put aside even the arguments about what he was saying and everything else. He's a dad, he's a husband, he's a son, he's a neighbor, he's an American, He's a good person. You know, all of that gets swept aside because in these ideological echo chambers, it turns into he is something that must be dealt with instead of he's a human being. And I've seen this with terrorism over and over again.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's really well said. I would also point this out and this is what is so and we're going to play a couple of your talkbacks here in a sec. Before we go to break here is what I would say too. It's one thing for a crazy person to kill someone. Unfortunately, crazy people will be killing people for all of our lives. And beyond. What I can't get out of my head, Buck, is if you go watch that video at the moment that the shot was fired at that Utah free speech event, there is a guy who stands up and cheers. I don't know how many of you have seen that. He's at this Charlie Kirk event. He hears the gunshot ring out. He immediately stands up and cheers as if his favorite team has just scored a touchdown. That reaction is natural. His brain is already so polluted that Charlie Kirk is so dehumanized to him that he shows up at that event. And when Charlie Kirk is shot, the instant that he falls back, that man, everybody else is ducking down. Have you seen that video? That guy stands up. We should share it on Clay and Buck because I think it's so dark. That guy stands up and cheers. Let me play this for you. A June says thanks for last week. Let's play her.

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[Buck Sexton]

We really appreciate that and we feel the same way. And honestly, we were relying on all of you and leaning on you and using your shoulder for support too, with your calls. But just knowing that you're out there listening and you're with us in this whole process. Clay and I always say we don't need therapy because we have this show. So it was a two way street. It was a two way street keeping each other steady and reminding each other we have to get back into this fight. So we're thankful to all of you.

[Clay Travis]

She was pointing out there before she got cut off. That the start of the week was the awful story out of Charlotte.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my gosh. That's right.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, it was just an emotionally devastating. You watched the video of the woman in Charlotte and then the video of Charlie getting shot. It was as tough of a week as I can remember.

[Buck Sexton]

That was, that was. I mean, certainly since October 7th in terms of the level of, of horror that the news cycle had brought us. That was the last feelings of those similar feelings of, oh, my gosh, what's going on? And it was one of the toughest news cycles we've ever had to deal with, honestly here, ever. So even before we were in this, in this media world. So thank you for being here for us. All right, look, I do have to tell you, I'm here in the studio with clay and I've got some. I've got some chalk right here in my hand. You see this blue? It's delicious. It's delicious. I know it looks like, you know, smurf beer or something here because it's all blue. It is absolutely delicious, though. And I do chalk's. I do chalk's chad mode, which is what that is. And it gets me so fired up for my day. It is energy like you cannot believe. So if you just want that, if you just want the boost to get things done, I mean, anything just more to get through your day. Certainly for the gym, it's a game changer for the gym. But, you know, my in law's clay. My mother in law likes to take it before she gets like, really into cleaning the house, the garage goes after it. Because you just are, you know, you're just ready, you're focused, you've got all that drive. But for the guys out there, the male vitality stack includes a leading ingredient that replenishes diminished testosterone levels in men. So I've got chad mode here in the studio. I'm gonna drink some of it over the course of the show. Keep me energized and focused. Go to chalk choq.com Chalk makes incredible supplements. Try the mill vitality stack for the guys out there and for anybody, chad mode. If you want energy boost drive I, by the way, I don't mix anything. I just drink it in water. I think it's delicious. All ingredients that you'll recognize. You can read too, by the way, this is the best stuff. Chalk chok.com use my name Buck for a massive discount on any subscription for Life. That's chalk choq.com use my name Buck.

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Uh, we're going to talk a bit here about the unhinged and demonic reaction to the assassination last week of our friend Charlie Kirk. It's important that everyone understand what is going on here and that we not push aside or sweep this under the rug or anything. People need to know what some of the nurses, some of the pilots, some of the teachers, some of the go down the list what they think about this or what they're saying publicly about this. I will point out Bill Maher on his show. This is cut 30. And he said this to me before I'll get into Clay, what he said to me, because I think it goes right to this. But there is a huge difference, even in just whether someone who is a leftist will talk to you or not if they know you're a conservative. Play 30.

[Bill Maher]

They're the people who don't want to talk. It's my main issue with them.

[Buck Sexton]

They.

[Bill Maher]

And Charlie Kirk was a guy who, like, he was always talking, and I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers say what you want about them, but they talk to you. They're not into this leftist think. The left really has much more of a. I don't talk to you. I don't want to deal with you. You're deplorable. I can't break bread with you. That attitude. And like all the right wingers, they don't have that attitude. Now, again, I didn't vote for them. And Charlie Kirk and I certainly don't agree on much politically, but he sat. He's a human being. He's not a monster.

[Buck Sexton]

And a husband and a father.

[Bill Maher]

Yes. And I liked him. I liked them all. They're all nice people when you meet them in person. And they're not as crazy as they would. Nobody's as crazy as they make them out to be.

[Buck Sexton]

Say, Bill, when I've. I did a show the first time, I don't even know now, Clay, years ago, and this is one of our first conversations backstage. He's like, I appreciate that you come here and you say what you say and you tell people what you think, but you're nice to everybody, you're cordial, you're not being a jerk. And he said, you're one of these happy warriors. I think that's a term very well applied to Charlie Kirk. Many have already said it. Happy warriors, ideological or idea warriors.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the whole point. It's supposed to be exchanging ideas. I don't take the positions that I take. And neither did Charlie. Neither do you, Clay. To make anyone feel badly, it's because we want to share the truth with other people. I actually want them to agree with me. I don't. I'd rather much rather have them say, you know what, you've got a point, or you know what, you're right, than to feel mocked and belittled or attacked. That's actually not the point. I mean, that can happen sometimes because of the way these exchanges go. But that's not the point of the exchange. But I know you're looking at this. I mean, there is a movement now to create a searchable database online. Yeah. For people that are celebrating, and that is the appropriate word, they are celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is so monstrous and so disgusting. What. What are you seeing about the numbers that have been gathered so far?

[Clay Travis]

Supposedly 50,000 names. And here's the way that I would analyze this. 50,000 people who have gone on social media and celebrated the assassination. The way that I would work through it is this. I think if you are a public employee, I think you should be fired. That is, when I say public employee, I mean taxpayer funded. If you're a member of the military, if you are a member of police, if you are a member of first responding communities, firefighters, I think everyone who has gone on social media and celebrated a political assassination should be fired. I don't believe our taxpayer dollars should go for that. If you are. The University of Tennessee, for example, just announced that they have fired a faculty member who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination. If you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination. When it comes to people who are employed by private companies, I owned a company, I sold it. I would fire anyone at my company when I own the company who went on social media and said, in any way, this is celebratory. I think individual business owners should have that right. I don't think certainly it should be mandated if you're a private employee, if you did it in uniform at work, to me it's a no brainer. I would do it individually. But again, if you are taxpayer funded, I think we should have a pretty bright red line. And I think the bright red line should be, you shouldn't celebrate, hey, if Rachel Maddow got assassinated, if Barack Obama had gotten assassinated, you should be fired. If you are a Military member. If you're a police officer, I think you can easily kind of work through this, and I don't have a problem with that at all. Private employers, I think, should be able to. To make their own decision.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll take some calls here. Krista in Florida with a story that ties right into what we're talking about. Welcome, Krista.

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

Hi, Clay and Buck.

[Caller Krista]

Thank you so much for taking my call. I really appreciate it.

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

This is.

[Caller Krista]

It's been shocking, it's been heartbreaking, but I just want to read you from this man's LinkedIn page. Firefighter, EMT. Hazardous Material Specialist. Chemical materials.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, sorry, sorry. Let me say, can you not share full name? Because, look, there could be. I will not share somebody having imposters. I just don't want this station to be putting people on blast without us knowing anymore. Okay, thank you.

[Caller Krista]

No, absolutely not. I will not say the name. Just the credentials.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Caller Krista]

Because then the most shocking part of that was this was my children's youth ministry leader, and he has, you know, he. He was working with my young adults.

[Buck Sexton]

And what did he.

[Clay Travis]

What did he say specifically?

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

He.

[Caller Krista]

He celebrated one less maggot on the world.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my God.

[Clay Travis]

I just.

[Caller Krista]

He was insulting our priest for praying.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, look, I appreciate you calling. Anyone who is involved in children should be, in my opinion, immediately fired from their job if they are in any way celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, thank you for calling.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you for calling.

[Buck Sexton]

I know that's a tough thing. I mean, it feels like such a betrayal. You've entrusted your kids to this person for their moral development. Youth minister. And you can't understand the obvious, unbelievable and demonic moral failure of celebrating this in any way, shape or form. It's stunning. And we're seeing so much of this. And I just. I don't know. I. Clay, it's. It has made me think that this country has a darker future than I had anticipated before. Just because this has to be confronted. And I would just point out. And that's why I don't like this. Oh, it's on both sides. And let's just all do dialogue now. No, Charlie was doing dialogue. That's the point. His whole movement was built on peaceful dialogue. And this is what happened. And look at all these people who are celebrating this. And now there's also this. Really, honestly, it's just so lame. But this. This effort to say, well, conservatives are doing cancel culture now. Everyone who's saying that if any person in any job said a particular racial slur, they would all Demand the immediate firing of that person, probably in any context whatsoever. They all absolutely believe in people being fired from their jobs for offending or for political reasons or whatever. But now they're pretending like this isn't so. They, they obviously have their red lines. They're pretending like this, celebrating the assassination of a father, a husband, a young guy, 31 years old. That's not a red line. Like you should keep your job even after you have brought that kind of. Of infamy on whatever organization you work for. That's insane.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And I also think this is where I always try to think on precedent. And I know this is challenging, but I don't even know who the equivalent of Charlie Kirk would be on the left. But I've just used the name Rachel Maddow. Buck's right that she's not a perfect analogy. They don't have a perfect analogy because their arguments are bad and they don't really believe in free speech. By and large, they are very much.

[Buck Sexton]

Trying to build up somebody on the left now as the new person for the youth. And he's a. I'm not going to say his name on the show. He's a very bad person. He's just a bad human being. So I don't want to, but there's someone on the left that they're wrote an op ed for the New York Times, as I understand it about this issue is a. I could play clips on this show. The fact the New York Times would give that guy. Well, the New York Times is a disgrace too. But it's interesting to me because our Charlie was a good and decent human being just completely without getting into his politics. And the left, of course, the person that they want to build up is an outright scumbag. Outright scumbag. Just so you just, just so anyone who's curious knows he does. Does understand this guy, does understand Internet culture and online video games. That I will say, but that's about it.

[Clay Travis]

Well, let's use Rachel Maddow as an example or this unnamed guy. I also think if they were assassinated at a free speech event and you went on and you celebrated that as a teacher, as a faculty member at a university, as a first responder, as anyone who's employed by taxpayers, I think you should be fired for that too. So I think you can easily to me setting the precedent of where is the line that we draw. And again, I think private employers should be able to make their own decisions. I would have the same standard both directions. I would fire someone when I ran My own company and I have expansive First Amendment beliefs, but people don't celebrate death.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's understand something. So is the standard that the left thinks that we're all supposed to live by that you can say absolutely anything, and I mean anything, and keep your job? Of course they wanted people to get fired for using the wrong pronouns. Okay, These are the people that now all of a sudden are free speech absolutists. The First Amendment means that the government can't take action against you for what you say. It doesn't mean that your private employer has to keep you employed no matter what you do, no matter what you say in public. That's not what it means.

[Clay Travis]

So I know that's why to me, I mean, again, you break it down. I think in times of emotion it's challenging, but there is a standard for basic humanity. And if you celebrate the murder of dads and moms for sharing their political opinions, in my opinion, you have failed the basic standard of humanity. If you fail the basic standard of humanity, I don't want you employed at my company. I don't want you instructing my children. If you are taxpayer funded, then I think you, if you fail the basic standard of humanity, you shouldn't be taxpayer funded anymore. Now, individual owners of businesses, I think they should have the right to decide who they employ and not. But this is not a tough call to me. We can debate sometimes gray areas of, hey, what is acceptable speech, what's not. Cheering Assassination. You should get fired. In my always humble opinion, this is not a tough call.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

You're joined now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going to dive into President Trump's announcement last week that he's going to be bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, according to many measures of violent crime on a per capita basis, may well be the most dangerous city in the entire country. But I want to start with this. Senator Blackburn, first of all, I missed you in Knoxville, where you and I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, which did not end well for the good guys, in this case, the team wearing orange. But I know that you were all over the place there, and it's a sporting event. But I bet you had a similar experience as I did, Senator Blackburn, which is the number of people who came up to me that wanted to talk about what happened to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event, was unlike anything I've ever seen before. No one. Usually people want to come up, and it's almost exclusively, hey, who's going to win the game? What do you think's going to happen? Almost everybody that came up to me at the sporting event wanted to talk about the Charlie Kirk situation. I've not asked you this, but I bet you found it to be similar as well. And I know you have a grandson that attends the same school as my sons, and. And the impact on young men in particular of this assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But their response has been, I have seen, very profoundly courageous. I've been very encouraged. So that's a big prelude. But I'm curious what you found in both those situations.

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

Yes, indeed. I will tell you, I have been just so honored by the conduct of my grandsons and their classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie Kirk and for the remembrance of 9, 11. And our grandson even noticed that the flags had not been moved to half staff before class started. So he walked out to the flagpole, and he lowered the flag to half staff. And I think one of the teachers kind of got in behind him a little bit about it. But he said he was following the president's order for all flags to fly at half staff until 6pm on Sunday. And I said, you know, if that's what you get in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. Honoring someone who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their lives in our military, who fought after 9, 11, and all of those brave first responders, and doing what the president said was the order of the day, which was lowering the flags. And you're right about being at University of Tennessee. We could hardly get through the crowd, like you said, without people saying, look, we stand with Charlie Kirk, we stand with family values and Tennessee values and morals, and we stand with the president. And it was just such an outpouring, I think, for so many college students, whether you were there in Circle park or at one of the fraternity houses or wherever. Clay it was astounding to me that these kids were such a fan of Charlie Kirk. They listened to him, they followed him, they enjoyed his podcast, and they wanted to. They loved the way he speaks truth and have so gravitated to that. And they love President Trump and they just wanted to register their shock and their disappointment with what had happened and their grief in many respects. And we had a great sermon yesterday at our church, and the minister said, something I think is so important and is that while we turn the other cheek and we know to turn the other cheek to evil, we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent on us to remember that we have to push back and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk. And as we have seen, his message now will be more powerful than ever. The outpouring of support for Charlie and his work for Erica and their children, it is not singular, but it is global in nature. And indeed, I think this is truly a turning point.

[Buck Sexton]

Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also getting some attention in the news cycle today is the move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to help tackle the out of control murder rate in the city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know about this so far? What stage is the planning, and do you believe that this would be able to have a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down?

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful. And what we know is this. Cash Patel gave Me a commitment. When he came to meet with me before his hearing for his FBI confirmation and I'm on Senate Judiciary Committee, I asked him in my office and then again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis and getting an FBI surge in Memphis under President Trump's first term. We had a program there called Legend. It had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed something back. So this summer, for two months, we had Operation Viper. There have been over 500 arrests. There have already been over 100 indictments. We know Memphis has 100 gangs. They have a per capita murder rate of 2,500 per 100,000. That is why it's the most dangerous city in the country. We know that during the surge, Memphis had the best August it has had in years. Whether it's murders or rapes or thefts, burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been down and significantly down. Some the best in 20 years, some the best in over five years. So this has made a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over. They worked closely with Memphis police, with the mayor of Memphis, and they need to continue this multiphase approach, and it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you will have the National Guard. Now, they can go in, they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can do traffic. There are so many things they can do. And this will allow Memphis police, who do have arrest powers, to go in and apprehend others in these gangs and get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD needs to be focused, is continuing to apprehend these gang leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these thefts. You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub. We have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class A railroads, i40, that goes from the east coast to the west coast. And you also have FedEx. So when you've got all of this with the river, the rail, the highways, the air, cargo theft is a big issue. And these gangs have created processes to go in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft. So being able to have the police work with these companies, whether it's rail or water or highways, and get a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important also. So the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis to be safe. We want it to be prosperous. It is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant. It has a promising future and a Big part of that is getting the crime under control.

[Clay Travis]

Senator Blackburn, Buck and I started off the show talking about the dark soul of the left in this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a big question, and it's one that I've been thinking about a lot. How do we fix this? Because if your soul is so dark that when you see a father murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open mic and saying, tell me whatever you believe, too, the soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How do we fix the rot in our culture? What can we do?

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

Well, this is something that talking with people through the process of legislation that I have worked on with the Kids Online Safety act and trying to get that passed. And you look at what these young people are picking up on social media, they become isolated. They get onto these platforms like Reddit and Discord, and they get into these discussion groups, and instead of it being a tool that opens their mind and something for good, it narrows their thought process and they become very angry. So I think the church has a role to play in this. I think parents have a role to play in this. Governance for social media platforms have a role to play in this. Looking at the mental health of kids, that is something that has to be done. It's not going to be fixed by one thing or another thing. But I do believe that strong families can help. I do believe that getting kids off of these social media platforms, that will help. I do think that, and I will say this, I think the governor of Utah has done an exemplary job in this, getting kids off these devices. You know, right now, the studies that we have seen as we've worked on keeping kids safe and trying to hold social media to account. You know, kids are safe spending. Teenagers are spending as much as eight hours a day on the phone. Yeah, eight hours. Middle school kids are spending about five. And when they're doing this, they're being exposed to things that young minds are not equipped to see. This. I mean, this is why we have ratings on movies in theaters. You can't take a child to an X rated movie. You can't sell them alcohol or tobacco or firearms. You can't take them to a pornographic show or a strip club or sell them magazines. But on the virtual space, they're exposed to it 24, 7, and they become desensitized. And, you know, I just, I am. And some of my friends, we are just praying deeply, praying that scales will fall from eyes and that people will awaken and they will realize what is happening to our children in our society, that they will encourage our children to boldly stand for values and for right and to stand against some of this evil presence to come off of these devices. And that means that adults, parents, teachers, preachers, everyone's going to have to do their part.

[Buck Sexton]

Senator Blackbird, always appreciate you. Thanks for joining us.

[Senator Marsha Blackburn]

You got it. Take care. Bye.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

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