Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 19 2025

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review

Episode Date: September 19, 2025
Host: Buck Sexton (Clay Travis absent)
Main Theme:
A solo Buck Sexton breaks down the latest media, political, and cultural news, focusing heavily on the fallout from Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension, the future of Democratic leadership (with an emphasis on AOC’s ambitions), and the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination, analyzing both the suspect’s background and the leftward trajectory of American youth culture.

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Episode Overview

Buck Sexton runs the Friday show solo, tackling three primary stories:

1. Jimmy Kimmel's indefinite suspension by Disney/ABC after offensive remarks about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, dissecting whether this is a free speech issue or a matter of corporate discretion.
2. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (AOC) emerging role in the Democratic Party, exploring rumors of a 2028 presidential or Senate run and her prospects against established figures like Chuck Schumer.
3. The cultural and psychological forces behind the Charlie Kirk assassin, including the radicalization and mental health crises within Gen Z and the left’s response to these events.

Throughout, Buck maintains his signature blend of sharp critique, humor, and polemics, interlaced with passionate warnings about the direction of U.S. politics and culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Jimmy Kimmel Suspension Controversy

[02:53–17:29]

• Kimmel’s Suspension: Buck explains that Jimmy Kimmel was suspended (not officially fired, but possibly on that path) after making inappropriate remarks on air about the recent killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

• Is this a Free Speech Issue? Buck definitively says no, framing it as a standard private sector/professional consequence:

  “Disney made this choice, and Disney has a right to make this choice. … The people who are saying this is a free speech issue—hold on a second. … That’s what the First Amendment means. It doesn’t mean that the company can’t fire me.” – Buck Sexton [09:23]

• Democrats’ Hypocrisy on Free Speech: He accuses Democrats of only caring about free speech when it benefits them and highlights their attempts to make Kimmel a martyr.

• The Decline of Comedy: Buck asserts that Kimmel and late-night hosts like Stephen Colbert have lost their comedic touch, becoming “crappy political pundits,” and that this has alienated large swaths of potential audience.

  “They have betrayed their craft of comedy. … These are people who … have a blessing, and yet are so self-indulgent, so narcissistic, and just nasty.” [14:17]

• Memorable Colbert Quote:

  “Tonight, we are all Jimmy Kimmel.” – Stephen Colbert [13:41]
  Buck’s response:
  “No, only you are Jimmy Kimmel in that you, Stephen Colbert, are also a wildly overpaid, snide, underperforming left-wing jerk.” [13:47]

2. The Democrats’ 2028 Problem: AOC’s Ambitions

[22:13–34:04; 54:30–68:43]

• AOC for President or Senate? Buck discusses recent Axios reports that AOC is eyeing a 2028 run either for the presidency or the Senate, possibly challenging Chuck Schumer.

• Schumer’s Vulnerability: Points out that Schumer will be in his late-70s; AOC beat Joe Crowley as a young upstart and could do so again.

• The Youth vs. Experience Dilemma:

  “I think the dynamic has changed a bit now in a post-Biden public meltdown era. … Chuck Schumer, I mean, he’s getting up there.” [24:22]

• AOC’s Challenges & Appeal:

  • Far-left platform could make her vulnerable nationwide.
  • Media savvy and youth: “She’s young, she’s dynamic, she’s telegenic. … Politics increasingly feels like a game show.” [31:25]

• Prediction:

  “It’s going to be Newsom at the top of the ticket, AOC at the bottom.” [33:02]

3. The Charlie Kirk Assassination: Radicalization and Gen Z

[35:18–49:47]

• The Assassin’s Background: Buck details new reports about the assassin’s immersion in disturbing online subcultures, particularly “furry porn video games,” as indicative of a deeper societal malaise among Gen Z.

  “I had never, until reading this article, heard of a furry porn video game. … You have to have darkened your soul to have done what this person did.” [39:07, 39:41]

• The Trans/Gender Ideology Debate: Buck links the shooter’s radicalization to online echo chambers promoting nontraditional gender identities, with a digression into the explosion of LGBTQ+ and transgender identification among Gen Z:

  “This confusion pushes youth toward drastic measures like mutilative surgeries and fuels mental health crises.” – Reading from Scott Atlas [43:17]

• Left’s Reluctance to Discuss Detransition:

  “They’ll all help you transition, but if you want to detransition, you’re on your own. Why is that?” [43:31]

• Cultural Crisis:
  Buck frames the left’s tolerance of radical sexual subcultures online as a psychological contagion, warning:

  “Maybe we should be able to say … You need help. This should not be encouraged. This should not be called part of a civil rights crusade.” [47:32]

• Comparison to Jihadist Radicalization:

  “I told you, I saw this with jihadist radicalization. … This is real. … This can happen, this kind of brainwashing.” [45:54]

4. The Left’s Changing Political Culture & AOC’s Attacks on Charlie Kirk

[54:30–68:43]

• AOC’s Response to Kirk’s Legacy: AOC objected to a congressional resolution in Kirk’s honor, calling his beliefs “ignorant, uneducated and sought to disenfranchise millions.”

• Buck Dissects Her Rhetoric:

  “To suggest that he [Kirk] is uneducated on politics is to announce the stupidity of the person making the claim.” [57:21]

• The Right as Custodians of Civility:
  Contrasts the left’s hostility toward conservative speakers with the right’s willingness to allow for debate, stating:

  “It is our cultures, the right and the left in this country, the political cultures are different, and we need to be very clear on this.” [66:22]

• Hypothetical Debate:

  “If there would be such a thing as a mercy rule in a debate … if we could have had Charlie and AOC on a stage together, it would have been an absolute butt-kicking.” [67:03]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Free Speech & Kimmel:

  “If I came on this show and said crazy things… my company, iHeart, has a right to take action because that’s who I work for, right? … If the Trump administration had … thrown Jimmy Kimmel in a cell for what he said, that’s a First Amendment issue. Disney saying ‘this guy’s a loon’… that’s called commerce.” [09:09, 13:08]

• On Late-Night Comedy:

  “Late night TV has been in a decline for years because of all this. These guys aren’t comedians anymore. They are crappy political pundits who have people that also write jokes for them.” [16:08]

• AOC’s Candidacy:

  “Why wait? You think she’s going to be patient and take the long view? No, run for president. … Running for president has become, for a lot of people, just a branding exercise.” [25:37, 25:48]

• On Radicalization:

  “There is something satanic that is central to this act.” [39:54]

• On the Rise of “Trans/Gender Identity” in Youth Culture:

  “Transgender identification among young adults surged from 0.59% in 2014 to 3.08% in 2023, a 422% increase, with nonbinary identities up 1,260%…” – quoting Scott Atlas [41:59]

• On Political Debate Culture:

  “Why is it that … none of us could come up with [a left-wing speaker who faced comparable threats on a college campus]? … It is our cultures, the right and the left in this country, the political cultures are different…” [63:07, 66:22]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Buck opens show, solo (Clay’s absence, topics overview) | 02:53–04:49 | | Jimmy Kimmel suspension analysis; free speech vs. company rights | 06:26–17:29 | | Stephen Colbert “We are all Jimmy Kimmel” takedown | 13:41–15:38 | | Decline of late night & political comedy | 15:38–17:29 | | AOC eyes presidential/Senate run; generational shift | 22:13–34:04 | | Newsom–AOC “prediction” for Dem 2028 ticket | 33:02–34:04 | | Shooter’s background, internet radicalization, Gen Z culture | 35:18–49:47 | | Atlas stats on LGBTQ/Trans youth, detransition critique | 41:59–43:35 | | AOC’s attack on Kirk’s legacy in Congress; Buck's rebuttal | 54:30–61:09 | | Cultural differences: campus speech, right/left civility | 62:46–66:44 | | Hypothetical Kirk–AOC debate dominance | 67:02–67:57 |

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Summary Flow and Tone

Buck Sexton’s tone is direct, irreverent, and polemical—often blending media analysis with cultural war critique and a conversational, slightly sardonic style. He frequently segues between political realities, media hypocrisy, and existential/psychological threats he perceives from progressive culture—especially as they relate to young people and the future of Democratic politics.

The episode is engaging for listeners who want a deep-dive on current conservative concerns: from legacy media’s decline, to the future of the Democratic Party, to anxieties over youth culture and online radicalization. The show concludes with Buck reminding his audience to expect and prepare for a more aggressive, media-savvy, left-wing opposition driven by the likes of AOC.

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For listeners who missed it:
You’ll come away with a strong sense of why Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension is more about business than free speech, why AOC’s ambitions are taken seriously (despite Buck’s critique of her intellect), and how the fallout from Charlie Kirk’s assassination is being woven into a broader narrative of generational malaise, media bias, and cultural polarization.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome, everybody. Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now. Our main man, Clay, taking a day to speak to conservative youth up in Michigan. So just me today, Mr. Buck the Buckster, the man of many names, including James, which is his first name. We shall dive into all of the latest news. The Jimmy Kimmel not quite firing, I think, but indefinite suspension, which sounds a bit like it could turn into a firing. Some very interesting updates on that. Some things you need to know about that whole situation. We are looking at that as not only an indicator of where things are, but perhaps as a harbinger of things to come in the media ecosystem. It's a, it's a new world in this Trump 2.0. There's a new sheriff in town. His name is Donald Trump. And all of his people in this administration. We shall discuss something that makes me want to go back and pull from. I think it was the January of.

[Buck Sexton]

This past year after the election, Clay.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Said, who do I think the Democrats.

[Buck Sexton]

Are going to rally behind?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And there was a day when I said very early on, I know people will say this is crazy, but it's.

[Buck Sexton]

Going to be very likely, I think.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

That AOC Alexandria Ocasio Cortez will become the Democrat, if not nominee, a darling of that Democrat primary campaign. And sure enough, already a story out in.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it's Axios here about how.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

AOC is eyeing a presidential run. Remember, I think it was just a.

[Buck Sexton]

Couple of days ago Clay pointed this out. He helped me with the math on this one.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

We're 15 months out from this. We're not far at all from this isn't. Oh, I'm talking about who the nominee is going to be. And we're years in advance of this mattering. No, because they're going to have an open primary and we can't have, you.

[Buck Sexton]

Know, there's not going to be an.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Incumbent on the, on either side, obviously. So it's gonna be very interesting. But aoc, we'll discuss that a little bit. Kamala Harris's book making more waves because people are finding parts of it that.

[Buck Sexton]

Are, well, maybe a little too honest about some things.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And that's a surprise, isn't it?

[Buck Sexton]

I had to ask the team, do.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I need to read Kamala's book? Am I going to do that, Clay read the, the Jake Tapper, the Fake.

[Buck Sexton]

Tapper book about original sin, I think it was.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So he brought us that.

[Buck Sexton]

Maybe I should have to read Kamala's book. I'll, I'll see about that one.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So we'll discuss also some very interesting.

[Buck Sexton]

Very interesting details to get into about.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Well, about the situation of these companies like Disney and how they view what is going on, what is going on.

[Buck Sexton]

With the American people right now and how they recognize that they can't continue to just antagonize half of the country. This ties in the Kimmel thing and we'll discuss this.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So we got some Harris stuff, some AOC stuff.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's dive into Jimmy Kimmel right now.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I want to share with you. Here is the heart of the issue is the that he said something stupid.

[Buck Sexton]

That he's a jerk, that he is not good at what he does, and that a private company took action against him.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The story that the Democrats are trying to make the center of all this, what they are trying to focus on is they're saying, oh, the First Amendment, the government, all of a sudden they.

[Buck Sexton]

Care about the First Amendment.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

They certainly didn't care about the First Amendment during COVID when private corporations were being leaned on, I mean, practically metaphorical gun to the head of these social.

[Buck Sexton]

Media platforms from the Biden administration saying.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Go after this person, shut them down.

[Buck Sexton]

Go after that person, shut them down. And the Supreme Court in a horrible.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Decision just earlier this year said, yeah, sorry, you can't prove that those companies.

[Buck Sexton]

Did it because of that government pressure.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Government pressure alone is not enough. Well, it turns out the more we find out about this situation, it isn't even government pressure. This is just the people at Disney are waking up to the realities here of the media marketplace. I bring you my friends, the Wall.

[Buck Sexton]

Street Journal's reporting on this. They write the following.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Soon after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr blasted late.

[Buck Sexton]

Night host Jimmy Kimmel over remarks related to the killing the assassination of conservative.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Activist Charlie Kirk, executives at ABC and parent company Disney knew they had a big problem. Kimmel, during his Monday show had criticized how President Trump and some other Republicans.

[Buck Sexton]

Were responding to the fatal shooting. Carr suggested during a podcast appearance two days later the FCC could take action against the broadcast licenses of ABC owned stations.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Advertisers and affiliates soon called the network expressing concern over Kimmel's show.

[Buck Sexton]

Executives at Sinclair and Nexstar, owners of.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

More than 60 local ABC stations, told.

[Buck Sexton]

Network leaders after Carr's remarks they would indefinitely preempt the show, starting that night moves that would hobble the program's reach.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Kimmel had planned to address Carr's comments on his own show Wednesday night, according to people familiar with the matter. Before his on air appearance, Dana Walden, co chairman of Disney Entertainment, spoke to the host about his plan. The people said after the conversation between Kimmel and Walden, she and other senior executives thought the star's approach could make the situation worse. Executives also discussed staff safety threatening emails on Kimmel show, et cetera, et cetera. Walden huddled with her team and Disney Chief executive Bob Iger before they temporarily decided to take Jimmy Kimmel live off.

[Buck Sexton]

The air and informed Kimmel of the decision.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Look, this is the truth. Jimmy Kimmel isn't worth the headache, isn't talented, isn't getting good ratings, isn't making them money. And Disney made this choice, and Disney has a right to make this choice. You know, this is so straightforward. The people who are saying that this is a free speech issue. Hold on a second. I can't come on this radio show and say crazy things. I mean, I could, but then my company, iHeart, has a right to take action because that's who I work for, right? This is the reality. It's true of all the hosts, you know, on Fox News. Now, if I came on this show and said crazy things and the government.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, when I say crazy, obviously not. You can't threaten people's lives and things like that.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But I just mean things that bring you into public disrepute, things that offend your own audience, things that are beyond the pale. It can't lock me up for that. That's the First Amendment. That's what the First Amendment means. It doesn't mean that the company can't fire me. And obviously, and Disney is a company, as you all know, that has made a lot of very bad, very woke decisions stretching for quite some time. And now they're trying to turn Jimmy Kimmel, rather the left, not Disney, trying to turn Jimmy Kimmel into some free speech martyr. He's a jerk. He's a jerk. He told his audience on Monday. Remember, we hit some new lows over.

[Buck Sexton]

The weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

As I said, this would be like.

[Buck Sexton]

Saying, you know, John Wilkes Booth, huge.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Abraham, you know, huge Abraham Lincoln fan.

[Buck Sexton]

Big supporter of abolition and the north and the war. I mean, it doesn't get any dumber.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And it's. And it was so it's a lie.

[Buck Sexton]

On top of being deeply Offensive.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And it just was really a last straw situation, right?

[Buck Sexton]

It was. It was. People have had enough of him.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And this is something that we need to be very clear about with conservatives in the media. We have said things that are factually true. We have said things that no person who is emotionally stable and reasonable would be offended by and been fired or taken off the air or, you know, whatever it may be by these different companies. There's been this double. There's been a double standard for a long time, but we have not argued.

[Buck Sexton]

That there can be.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

There's zero standard because that's completely unworkable. Right. It's one thing to say, hey, I shouldn't be fired from my job because I refuse to refer to a guy.

[Buck Sexton]

With, with female pronouns.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Because that's just the truth. Right? That's just the truth. And if it offends the left, too bad, but that is the truth. It's another thing to say that you could go into your boss or, you know, you could go on air and.

[Buck Sexton]

Trash your own boss on the air. Let's just say, and expect that there'd be no consequences.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Like, that's the.

[Buck Sexton]

You can't have a company that way.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's insane. This is all very straightforward, but they.

[Buck Sexton]

Are desperate, desperate to turn this into some big free speech.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The left doesn't care about free speech at all.

[Buck Sexton]

They're the ultimate authoritarians. They're the ultimate authoritarians.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And if we live in a, in.

[Buck Sexton]

A society, they're the only authoritarians.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

If we live in a society where only conservatives face consequences for speech, why would the Democrats stop doing what they do? They never suffer. So we go to the mat. We create an unrealistic standard of defending.

[Buck Sexton]

Them, which would be, which would cover.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Someone like Jimmy Kimmel.

[Buck Sexton]

He, of course he should be taken off the airport. He said he's a moron. And it's a lie and it's disgraceful.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But we're going to defend that when it comes to a private company, again, not the government. If the Trump administration had, you know, sent in federal agents and thrown Jimmy Kimmel in a cell for what he said, okay, I mean, that's a First Amendment issue. Disney saying, this guy's a loon and he's going to make it worse. And we're taking him off the air because we pay him a whole lot of money and he's not worth it. That's called commerce.

[Buck Sexton]

But Stephen Colbert, he doesn't see it that way. Here he is saying, this was cut 3. What a shock that Stephen Colbert doesn't see it that way. Cut three.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

We're all Jimmy Kimmel. Play it.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome down here, up there, all around the world.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Welcome one and all to the Late Show. I'm your host, Steve. Stephen Colbert. But tonight, we are all Jimmy Kimmel. No, only you are Jimmy Kimmel in that you, Stephen Colbert, are also a wildly overpaid, snide, underperforming left wing jerk. And I think this is something else.

[Buck Sexton]

You have to remember with all this.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

They've betrayed their craft. They have betrayed their craft of comedy. And I know that's not the biggest issue, but it does bother me. These are people who are, who have a. You know, I come to this show.

[Buck Sexton]

Every day and I think it is a blessing the fact that I get with Clay. Of course, Clay's out today. But the fact that we get to.

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Speak to you, I view as a gift every, every single day, every hour.

[Buck Sexton]

Believe it or not.

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I really, really feel.

[Buck Sexton]

I know you believe it, but I.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Really feel this way.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a gift. It's amazing. I get to do this for a living.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And so I try to do the absolute best job that I can every day. And I try to serve you, this audience that Rush built every day. I cannot believe how self indulgent, how narcissistic and just nasty people like Colbert and Kimmel are. Because remember, there are people that would have tuned into those shows who, who just wanted some lightness and laughter at the end of their day. And they get mocked, their beliefs are ridiculed. Not in a way that's intended to bring people to laugh, but that's intended to placate the sensibilities of a very small and very nasty contingent really, of.

[Buck Sexton]

Coastal America, you know, blue state America.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

That isn't interested in laughing together, but.

[Buck Sexton]

Wants to laugh at because of their own insecurities, their own inability to debate, their own lack of self awareness.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And so Kimmel has just been pandering to that, as has Stephen Colbert. So yeah, they're very similar. And late night TV has been in a decline for years because of all this. Conservatives have been saying this. The right.

[Buck Sexton]

I have been saying it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Clay has been saying it. All of us in the conservative media.

[Buck Sexton]

The right wing media, whatever you want.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

To call it, we've been saying this for years. These guys aren't comedians anymore. They are crappy political pundits who have people that also write jokes for them. So they don't have the responsibility of.

[Buck Sexton]

Having to be knowledgeable or insightful about anything.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Oh, I'm just a comedian, clown nose on clown nose off. This is what Jon Stewart used to.

[Buck Sexton]

Do, although he actually was a little bit funnier than these two. And what he did, even more dishonest in many ways. But at least occasionally you'd get a chuckle out of it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But this is the game that they play. Oh, I, you know, Jimmy Kimmel can go on the air. Jimmy Kimmel can cry about Cecil the Lion and then make a nasty comment.

[Buck Sexton]

In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination.

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And anybody who is a normal American is going to see this guy and.

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Think that he's, he's a, he's a good dude.

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He's somebody that you want to, you.

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Know, cozy up on the couch with.

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The wife, the husband, the kids, and.

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Watch at the end of the night. Of course not.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Disney figured this out and Disney took some action. Now we'll see what Disney does going forward on this one. But I don't see this at all as some first amendment issue. I am not concerned about this. I think that this has just been a long time coming and that's, that's.

[Buck Sexton]

Where I'm coming down at. So call me.

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[Buck Sexton]

Sports Illustrated Tickets let's talk about Democrats. It's always a fun one. Talk about the Democrats. I will give you. I had an update for you on the Charlie Kirk assassin and what we know about him. Very troubling stuff. We'll get to that at the bottom of this hour because I wanted to first dive into this, the Democrat situation leadership wise. And this piece in Axios, which, which I saw, it said, AOC eyes 2028 presidential run. And now the headline that I'm seeing is AOC's 2028 decision run for President or Senate.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So it feels like they're already downgrading this a little bit from what I initially saw.

[Buck Sexton]

But here's what they're saying. AOC and her team are positioning for her to run for president of the or the US not President of the Senate President or the US Senate in 2028. According to her, people could shake up.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The presidential race if it were to be Senate. Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer, 74, is.

[Buck Sexton]

Up for reelection in 2028.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I think she would beat Chuck Schumer. I really do remember she pushed out. I forget who the guy was.

[Buck Sexton]

He was a senior Democrat guy in the House, though, who just got really entitled and lazy and didn't really want to fight for his seat. I can't remember his name now. It's been a while. But she was an upstart and she managed to beat him for that, isn't it? I love watching Democrat infighting is always fun, right? It's like watching you want both sides to lose. So whatever they do to each other is so entertaining.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But I think that AOC would be formidable. Schumer when it comes to funding and he knows the game and he's got.

[Buck Sexton]

The donors and all that, sure. But he's going to be 70. What is he going to be, 76?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

77 when he's up for reelection, the guy's going to be looking at 80 years old.

[Buck Sexton]

AOC is a whole lot younger.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And I do think the dynamic has.

[Buck Sexton]

Changed a little bit now.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Joe Crowley. Thank you, team.

[Buck Sexton]

Joe Crowley was who AOC beat.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I think the dynamic has changed a bit now in a post Biden public meltdown era where now it really, it really hits when somebody says, look at.

[Buck Sexton]

That guy or that gal, too old.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

For that position of power right now. I know they want to do this with Trump, but it doesn't work because Trump is still a force of nature.

[Buck Sexton]

Right? This guy is the energy and the.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You know, this, this is just true. Even honest people who despise Trump are.

[Buck Sexton]

Willing to admit that the guy has just an unbelievable zest for the game.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

For being out there, for doing press.

[Buck Sexton]

Conferences, for doing live events and then, you know, playing 18 holes and then, you know, traveling to this place and.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Traveling to that place and having the conferences, and he's, he's incredible that way. So that's why it doesn't work. If Trump wasn't apparent in his physical capability, then they would be pushing this.

[Buck Sexton]

A lot, obviously, in a post Biden era.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But, you know, Chuck Schumer, I mean, he's, he's getting up there, he's looks like he's lost a step and, you know, Senate term, six years, is it.

[Buck Sexton]

Really going to be.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Anyway, I think she could be formidable.

[Buck Sexton]

For Schumer, but in my mind, she's going to run for president.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Why wait? You think she's going to be patient and take the long view on this one? No, run for president.

[Buck Sexton]

Because as I've said, and I do really believe this, running for president has become, for a lot of people, just a branding exercise. It's something that allows a person to.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Get their name out there, to build their social media, which matters in elections now, this matters in politics.

[Buck Sexton]

So I could see this absolutely being the case. Now. The problems that she'll come up against are she's far left. She's kind of a phony in a lot of ways. Right. As you know, she's like AOC from the Bronx, except she's from Westchester. So. And those are not similar places, really. There are some very nice parts of the Bronx, and there are some very, you know, very upscale, expensive parts of the Bronx. And that's sure. But she's pretended to be from the mean streets of the Bronx, and that's just not true. So she's up as somebody also who is very left wing, as we know, and that will be an issue for her. But I think the bigger problem is.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

She is not, in fact, very bright.

[Buck Sexton]

And that is a reality that will be hard for her to cover up for very long. I mean, for example, after Charlie Kirk's assassination, here's AOC. This is cut 15 calling for gun control play.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

15.

[AOC Audio Clip]

I mean, listen, I know this might be a point of disagreement among some folks, but I think that our common sense kind of gun safety measures are so past due beyond in terms of us being able to pass this. This isn't about taking anyone's guns away. This isn't about attacking the second amendment. It's about how do we get to a point where people who are at risk of committing domestic violence, who are at risk of committing violence can so easily gain access to deadly weapons such as these. And so to me, it's time to pass common sense gun safety measures, the kinds of things that responsible gun owners also support.

[Buck Sexton]

What she says is just completely. It's just pablum. It's, it's nothing. It's nonsense.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

What would be the common sense gun.

[Buck Sexton]

Safety measure that would apply to the assassination or the assassin of Charlie Kirk? What, what would it have been? What would it, what would have stopped this? If you're talking about the weapon, which is what Democrats almost always focus on.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It was a bolt action rifle.

[Buck Sexton]

So now we're just saying you can't have, if you can't have a bolt.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Action rifle, you can't have a firearm, period. This is what the, a lot of the Democrats who say, well, I have no problem with, with hunters, you know, and they put Tim Walls out there.

[Buck Sexton]

Was like holding a shotgun upside down, looks like, you know, less masculine version of Elmer Fudd, you know, and he's.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Like, oh, he's like, I like to go hunting and all this.

[Buck Sexton]

No, the second amendment is not about hunting. It's a nice, nice thing to be able to do with your firearm. But it's not about hunting, as you know, it's about defense against tyranny. It's the, it's the inherent right of self defense and defense against the tyrannical state that we all have and that the founders recognized. But they would usually say things, Democrats would say things like, well, you know.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You don't need 100 rounds to kill.

[Buck Sexton]

A deer or something.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So. Yeah, but if you're taking away both.

[Buck Sexton]

Action rifles now, now there's no firearm that somebody's going to be able to have.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So on the, on the actual weapon, the actual tool, the firearm here, there's no gun control law that anybody could.

[Buck Sexton]

Even begin to talk about that isn't just the absolute confiscation of all firearms.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Because if you can't have a bolt.

[Buck Sexton]

Action rifle, you can't have anything. You definitely can't have a semi auto rifle, you definitely can't have a pistol. I mean, you go down the list. Absurd. And then she brings up, well, to stop people that are prone to violence from, from getting. Getting access to a gun, okay, there are laws about this. You have to fill out a form, you have to say whether you've been involuntarily committed. I mean, there are these things, there are these steps in the process. There is a background check, but none.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Of that would have caught this individual.

[Buck Sexton]

So what, really. And it's interesting that there was some brief conversation about making making the mental health status of somebody who is transgender a possible barrier to firearms ownership.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

That's an interesting conversation.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, the NRA publicly came out against it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's an interesting conversation.

[Buck Sexton]

And Democrats don't want that. That they don't want, because that also brings up the issue of whether transgenderism or gender dysphoria, as it was formerly called and listed in the dsm. Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition that in any way could be a precursor to people that are a danger.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

This is. That's the conversation that it brings up, is what.

[Buck Sexton]

The conversation. That's what they didn't want to have. So I would just note that AOC on any number of issues is going to do very poorly if she has to. If she has to actually explain her positions to the American people, but she won't really have to explain them.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You know, she's young, she's dynamic, she's telegenic. We're in a media obsessed world, in a media obsessed culture.

[Buck Sexton]

And politics increasingly, you know, does feel like a game show, unfortunately. And it is. It is very similar to it in many ways. Now it's just about, you know, who's famous and who's getting attention and who's getting talked about.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So I think she is almost certain.

[Buck Sexton]

To run for president. As I said all along. Something else that has been interesting to me in this whole process, though, is where does that leave good old Gavin? Good old Gavin Newsom?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Well, he is right now the standard.

[Buck Sexton]

Bearer of the Democrat Party. He is the guy who he thinks.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Can coast into that role.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, what's the obvious move here, Gavin at the top of the ticket, AOC at the bottom of the ticket. That way they can do the preparing.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

For the future thing. Newsom has the, you know, the experience and everything else. It is also the case that you've.

[Buck Sexton]

Had two female nominees for the Democrats.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Who have both lost back to back.

[Buck Sexton]

Not back to back, but have both lost in succession. So you know, Hillary and then Kamala. So they would have a guy at the top of the Democrat ticket. In that case, you'd have some diversity with AOC at the bottom of gender and she is a Latina. So that would make Democrats happy and it would make the left feel like they would have a powerful voice inside the administration.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I just think that we already know.

[Buck Sexton]

That'S where it's got to go. It's going to be Newsom at the top of the ticket, AOC at the bottom of the ticket.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I think this is.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't want to say it's preordained. A lot of things can happen between now and then. And I understand that Mamdani is probably going to become who has a lot of similarities to AOC ideologically and everything else. He's probably going to become the mayor of New York City. But it's going to take him a while to make New York worse.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's going to take a little bit.

[Buck Sexton]

Of time and he's going to be someone that they will just say, well, that's New York. And I don't think that he's going to drag down, for example, AOC certainly in a Democrat primary.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So this is where I see it going. If you're wondering how the Democrat Party.

[Buck Sexton]

Is going to shake out, I think eventually it will just. It will be clear that they need a. An established.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

An older establishment figure, not as old.

[Buck Sexton]

As Biden because we all know how that ended up.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But you're going to have Gavin Newsom and then you'll have to make things more interesting. You will have AOC at the bottom of the ticket.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that is where it is all going.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And I tend to be right on these things. So we shall see. I'm excited to be having some steaks tonight courtesy of Good Ranchers.

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[Buck Sexton]

You'll get the gift, you get the discount and you'll be eating delicious meat from American farmers, American ranchers, good ranchers.com promo code. This is not going to really be a surprise, I think to anyone. But it just goes to the depravity and. And clear just evil of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin here that he. They now have been looking into his online activities and his online profile. So the kind of things that he would do, sites he would go to all of this. Part of it is to track communications which the FBI must do because there is still the possibility of co conspirators or those who may have aided abetted the assassination of our dearly departed friend Charlie Kirk. But what they found is really disgusting stuff. And again not a surprise given what we already knew about this person. There's something the. There's a very basic part of your humanity and a very clear part of your soul that you would have to have shut out and smothered to be able to put the sights of a rifle on someone having a peaceful exchange of ideas on a college campus. A completely defenseless, I might add. You know, this isn't someone who said, you know, I'll. I'll meet you at high noon and we'll see. May the best man win. This is the cowardly shot of an assassin, a sniper against an unarmed and defenseless person. And a father, a husband. And the fact of I still the part of this that is just. I am. I'm haunted by it. I know many of you are. The. The visual, the videos of what happened to Charlie which I do not ever want to see again. But I. At the time we were all watching and we all saw and that just the thought of his children and his wife, it hits all of us. And we're obviously never going to forget Charlie's legacy and all the, the brilliant and fantastic things that he did and was doing for this country. We're also not going to be able to forget the trauma though of what happened to him. And we shouldn't forget it. But it's painful.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's painful.

[Buck Sexton]

And I would feel that way if what happened had happened to somebody who was a staunch, if it was the same set of circumstances to a staunch Democrat who was part of a major movement. If they had done this to some big name Democrat, I would be horrified by this and horrified by what it has done to that person's family and, and so forth. You know that, we all know that. And so when you look at what.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Kind of a person could do that.

[Buck Sexton]

This Tyler Robinson, it's the kind of person who, according to the New York Post here, played furry porn video games.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Now, I will tell you, I am reasonably informed of things in this world.

[Buck Sexton]

Because for my job I have to just know about as much as I possibly can.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

I had never, until reading this article, heard of a furry porn video game. But if you just go through the words in your head, you will understand.

[Buck Sexton]

More or less what we're talking about here.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And this guy was going into the, you know, hardcore and deep, dark, scary corners of the twisted sexual Internet. And this was part of his radicalization process. This is part of what led this man.

[Buck Sexton]

Like I said, you have to have darkened your soul.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You have to have suppressed that basic.

[Buck Sexton]

Part of your humanity to have done.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

What this person did.

[Buck Sexton]

There is something satanic that is central to this act.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You must have, whether he believes in Satan or not, there must have been.

[Buck Sexton]

Whether he was like a Satanist or.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Not, there must have been.

[Buck Sexton]

A devil.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

At the center of this process.

[Buck Sexton]

Because.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Otherwise you could not do it. And I think that there is a broader problem here. And it is this, the movement, this.

[Buck Sexton]

Trans and all the letters and everything.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Else is creating more and more space for really bizarre and depraved sexual stuff online.

[Buck Sexton]

It doesn't get talked about certainly by the media that supports this stuff in general, but it's real and it's there.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And you know, the number of people.

[Buck Sexton]

For example, who are being pushed down this pathway. There's this, this Scott Atlas, you know, who's a well known doctor and you know, an MD and was involved with speaking out against Covid. I used to have him on my show during that period. And he's now serving in the. Served in the Trump administration. He wrote an op ed. I was just reading it. It's looking at the prevalence of, of people who are, who are Q or questioning or intersex as a function of Gen Z, which again, this. The alleged Charlie Kirk assassin. The assassin is a Gen Z person by age and the increase is in the thousands of percentile points that, you know, thousands of percentage points.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So it's 10, 15 times or more.

[Buck Sexton]

Increase in people who are identifying this way.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And that is.

[Buck Sexton]

Here you go. This is from the Scott Atlas piece.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Gen Z's psychological frailty sets the stage for unique vulnerability to social contagion suggested by the explosion of gender confusion. Transgender identification among young adults surged from 0.59% in 2014 to 3.08% in 2023, a 422% increase, with non binary identities up 1,260% and transgender men quadrupling 309%, driven by social media echo chambers and peer pressure. Gallup's 2025 poll shows LGBTQ identification at 9.3% overall, nearly triple 3.5% in 2012, doubling in five years, with over 23% of Gen Z identifying as such. A 2025 poll from the Williams Institute estimates over 724,000 transgender youth in America. This confusion pushes youth toward drastic measures.

[Buck Sexton]

Like mutilative surgeries and fuels mental health crises. This also notes, by the way, that only 13% of detransitioners will receive any support at all from LGBT organizations.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So they'll all help you transition. But if you want to detransition, you're on your own.

[Buck Sexton]

Why is that?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Why should there be such an agenda?

[Buck Sexton]

Isn't it about helping people? Helping people in crisis, not allowed to detransition something you don't even hear about very much, do you? Why do I bring these things all. Why am I talking about this and talking about the assassin?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Because he's Gen Z and he was in love with a trans furry. This is. This is deeply psychologically and emotionally destabilizing stuff. This is sicko weirdo stuff. Okay, you know what? I know it, we all know it. Something very wrong here. And he doesn't come from a background at all that would, you know, be indicative of this kind of a trend. It's one thing when you see, and.

[Buck Sexton]

I could start to name them, but.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

All these celebrities, all these I love, by the way, Hollywood people finally realize Hollywood is gross.

[Buck Sexton]

It has so much less cultural power and impact than it used to. No one, I mean, if you look up to celebrities now, like Hollywood actors. You really, you know, you really don't know anything about anything, right? I mean, you know, you want to.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Enjoy a movie once in a while.

[Buck Sexton]

With some of these, you know, schmoes, that's fine. But, you know, we don't look up to them.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Oh, God, that actor, he said this or she said that. But it's one thing when one of.

[Buck Sexton]

These actors says, oh, I have like.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

A trans kid, I got a non binary kid.

[Buck Sexton]

I got a, you know, I got a, I got a kid who's trans.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Non binary, furry and questioning, you go, okay, that's the, that's the parents projecting their psychoses and neuroses onto their kid.

[Buck Sexton]

Like, it's very obvious, right?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's no surprise that, like, left wing.

[Buck Sexton]

Radicals have these kids who can't just grow up and like, the boys play.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

With trucks and then go through puberty and find girls.

[Buck Sexton]

All of a sudden they go through.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Puberty and they think girls are pretty and then they want to be around girls, you know, in their teenage years.

[Buck Sexton]

More and, or, you know, at some.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Point in their teenage years, and then they want to get married and have babies. That can't be.

[Buck Sexton]

That.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

There has to be some other thing.

[Buck Sexton]

That they are pushed towards.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

In the case of the Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

Assassin, though, it was online and it was the institutions, like maybe his, I don't know what his high school was, but in this case, I think primarily online, this ideological ecosystem and echo chamber.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

That is constantly reinforcing, pushing this stuff and reinforcing this stuff. And I told you, I saw this. With jihadist radicalization, there were people who would become willing to murder innocents, including women and children, in the name of jihad, mostly based on watching YouTube videos. This is real. This can happen, this kind of brainwashing.

[Buck Sexton]

In this case, really a form of.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Self brainwashing is possible. It does happen, and it happened with this shooter. But in this case, it's this depraved gender, transgender identity stuff all mixed into this, which can completely unmoor anybody but.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, a young man. I mean, can you imagine, can you.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Imagine all these messages this guy is watching? I'm trying to remember even what they call this, like trans furry porn, video.

[Buck Sexton]

Games in his spare time.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

This guy's a sick weirdo. And even apart from what we know.

[Buck Sexton]

About the violence and you know, the, the murder of Charlie Kirk, which of course is the, the worst thing of.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

All, but this guy's got problems. And yet the left is always telling.

[Buck Sexton]

You that they want to, they want.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

To make more space for this stuff.

[Buck Sexton]

You got to be more tolerant of this stuff.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

This is. This is just the way people are. Well, you know, maybe it shouldn't be.

[Buck Sexton]

The way people are.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Maybe we should be able to say.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, if you're.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

If you find yourself as a Gen Z person, not knowing whether you are attracted to men or women or whether you're a man or a woman, and whether you should watch, you know, furry porn online or you're watching furry porn online rather, you need help. This should not be encouraged. This should not be called part of a civil rights crusade.

[Buck Sexton]

There's something very sick and evil and twisted that is going on here. And they are going after our youth with this people 18 to 25. We see the numbers, we see the reality, and they're radicalized into this. You know, we don't have good terminology really yet for what to call this. I mean, leftism, sure, you know, gender identity stuff, trans, cult.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

There's all these different things.

[Buck Sexton]

But something has happened here because you can't tell me that some guy who grows up with. In an otherwise normal and stable family in, you know, I think, Utah, with a dad in law enforcement, this guy ends up, by the time he's college age, watching transferry cartoon porn or whatever.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And is in love with a transferee himself. And you can't tell me that there's not something really wrong with the influences that he is subjected to online and by this digital culture. And we have to figure out ways.

[Buck Sexton]

To counteract this, to fight against this.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

To shut this stuff down, to push this stuff, you know, out of as far out of the mainstream, certainly as possible. Because the left is always trying to mainstream this stuff. The left always gets angry. We say, you know, I don't think you should have kids able to access hardcore pornography online. So let's put some things in place.

[Buck Sexton]

And, oh, you know, who has problems with it?

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The left always, oh, you know, free speech. No, I don't think. I don't think a third grader being able to find, you know, easily some of the. Without age verification stuff, find some of the stuff that we all know is freely online. It's not a free speech issue, okay? This is a demonic argument to make.

[Buck Sexton]

That they make to remember that. I'll take your calls here in a second on this one. I'm sure a lot of you want to weigh in.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton (Host)]

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[Buck Sexton]

We have some. Oh boy. Aoc.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

AOC has decided that she's going to.

[Buck Sexton]

Weigh in on the legacy of Charlie Kirk. And I was saying before that she thinks she's going to run. I think she is going to run. And she is a leftist.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

To be a real leftist in America.

[Buck Sexton]

You have to be somewhat delusional or entirely delusional. You have to be ignorant of history. You have to be hypocritical.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

You have to be childish in your.

[Buck Sexton]

View of the world around you. You have to be emotionally driven.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

There are preconditions to be a leftist in America today. And that's why, if I know that somebody is a leftist, I can already know all these things about them, one and the other.

[Buck Sexton]

They always go together.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The characteristics and the political affiliation.

[Buck Sexton]

And AOC is a perfect example of this. And maybe she's the pinnacle of this in many ways.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But instead of grace, instead of, oh, I don't know, just basic respect, she.

[Buck Sexton]

When she speaks about the recently assassinated Charlie Kirk, had this to say. Play 21.

[AOC Audio Clip]

His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans. Far from the working, quote, working tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted by the majority in this resolution. It is equally important that Congress does unite to reject the government's attempt to weaponize this moment into an all out assault on free speech across the country. All in the name of Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

So yeah, the House and the Senate have approved a resolution to honor Charlie Kirk and this has gone to a. It's a ceremonial measure, something that Charlie clearly deserves and I'm glad that they're doing it. But Democrats are standing against it, although 100 Ronkenfeld Democrats joined.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So there's that.

[Buck Sexton]

There are some Democrats that went along with it. 310 to 58 on that one. AOC, it seems, has a problem with it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Notice the words that she chooses to use here.

[Buck Sexton]

Saying things like he is, well, first.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Of all, uneducated and ignorant. It's one thing to disagree with, with.

[Buck Sexton]

Charlie, but to suggest that he is uneducated on politics is to announce the.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Stupidity of the person making the claim. He clearly, no matter what you think of his positions, and obviously I agree with his positions, you but I just mean if we're trying to look at this from an objective reality, this is a guy who knew politics and history and at a very impressive level. And that's coming from a guy who also honestly knows those things that are pretty high level. So I think I know what I'm talking about. He was very skilled in those areas.

[Buck Sexton]

And what's even more galling I think.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

About this is AOC is not, you know, this is like a junior high school basketball player saying that this guy who was in the NBA can't shoot one is way out of, you know, depth on this.

[Buck Sexton]

Now I understand AOC also very famous.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Social media personality, but she's talking about.

[Buck Sexton]

Education level and she's talking about ignorance.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Remember, ignorance would be.

[Buck Sexton]

You don't know, you, you don't know the things.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's not that you're choosing the wrong formulation or ignorance is different than wisdom.

[Buck Sexton]

Ignorance is, you just, well, you're ignorant. You don't even know what you don't know. To say that Charlie is ignorant is.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

The kind of criticism you could only.

[Buck Sexton]

Make about him if you knew nothing about him. Which maybe that's true of AOC or you're just a brainless demagogue, which is definitely true of aoc.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And then she says to disenfranchise people. This is one of these words, you know, whenever you hear that, you should remember this. It's not like Charlie was. You know, she doesn't mean that just.

[Buck Sexton]

In the context of, like, voting rights issues, but they try to hijack the language of the great moral peak, if you will, of the Democrat Party today.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Is still supposed to be the civil.

[Buck Sexton]

Rights movement, even though they've totally rewritten. I know the Democrats are the party.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow.

[Buck Sexton]

And, you know, Eisenhower was the one who actually moved first to do some.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Of the biggest things in civil rights, and he was a Republican, so. But just.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll forget it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Forget about that debate for a second.

[Buck Sexton]

Because we could do that all. We could do that all day.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

She says disenfranchised because it is meant.

[Buck Sexton]

To evoke certain feelings of revulsion from the Democrats listening and moral superiority for. He's disenfranchising people. But even more than that, how.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And think about this. She's claiming he's disenfranchising people when his primary vehicle for reaching the public was inviting people onto a stage, onto a platform with him for that exchange of ideas. In fact, what Charlie was doing was offering to enfranchise anybody who was willing to come up to a microphone.

[Buck Sexton]

And the left killed him for it.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But that is what he was doing, saying, let's have this. Let's have this debate, let's have this discussion. He didn't call people names, he didn't curse at them, none of that. Let's just talk about this and let's.

[Buck Sexton]

See if the best ideas can win.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And, you know, even if the best.

[Buck Sexton]

Ideas don't win, it's a good thing to have spent the time to hear the other side. You know, I'll tell you one thing that you learn pretty quickly in a marriage, and, you know, I mean, I've learned this too, is that it's not.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Always about who's right.

[Buck Sexton]

In fact, a lot of the time, it's not really about who's right in a marriage. It's about the willingness to hear each other out and do so with respect and the closeness and the trust that that process brings. Right? I don't need my wife, and hopefully she doesn't need me to always say, you know, you're right, I'm right.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Who's right? You know, it's not.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's talk.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Let's talk about this. And then that alone, if it's done the right way, is helpful.

[Buck Sexton]

And I mean, I think that there's.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Some truth to that in politics as well.

[Buck Sexton]

Politics is not the same as in marriage, but it's not always about getting the end result you want. Just going through that process and respecting that process can be a very positive thing. It creates trust, it creates open lines of communication. It creates a sense that we have.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

A forum to address this and other things.

[Buck Sexton]

As I, of course, that forum in the case of Charlie was stolen from us by a psycho murderer. But it was very powerful to have that. It was very powerful to have a place where people could go and be heard. And I think for a lot of them. And there were people that spoke out, even who disagreed with Charlie, who were students and such, who said, you know, I respected that he was willing to do that. You know, it's been the case for.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

A long time that these campus speeches. I wanted to say this earlier, so.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm going to just put a pin in what I was about to say because we're running, I'm running out of show and I have about 3 hours more show in my head to do. Don't worry, I'm not going to put it all on your plate today.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But why is it that if I.

[Buck Sexton]

Asked any of you to show me.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

A in the last, I would go.

[Buck Sexton]

So far as to say the last 20 years, show me a left wing speaker who has been subjected to serious threats, violence and intimidation on a college campus anywhere in America. None of us could come up with one. Off the top of our heads, none of us could come up with one.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

And why is it that if even the most vile and man, are there.

[Buck Sexton]

Some vile left wingers out there, the.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Most vile, incendiary, you know, race baiting, communist lunatic, somebody that AOC would think is fantastic, by the way, why is it that that person could go speak not only at any college, that person could go.

[Buck Sexton]

Not that I don't think they would.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

It's one thing to platform somebody.

[Buck Sexton]

I want to be clear. And that's not always, you know, you.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Shouldn'T invite, you know, you shouldn't invite.

[Buck Sexton]

Osama bin Laden to come speak at your university. He's dead. So you get what I'm saying, right? I'm not saying just invite anybody. But I can tell you this.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

If there was somebody who had very, who was necessary for the conversation, let's.

[Buck Sexton]

Say, oh, here, perfect example, here, perfect example. If Ketanji Brown Jackson.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Was invited to.

[Buck Sexton]

Speak at Hillsdale College, why is it that we all know. And by the way, maybe she. I mean, she very well could be Supreme Court justice.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

So that's why I didn't want to.

[Buck Sexton]

Say some crazy left winger and somebody says, well, they would never be invited. Catanja Brown Jackson could be invited to speak at Hillsdale College and would know.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

That she would be treated.

[Buck Sexton]

That she would be treated with respect, that she would be able to speak, that they wouldn't try to drown her out, that there wouldn't be people, you know, dressed up outside in, you know.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Animal costumes and banging drums and doing all kinds of crazy stuff to create a. You know, that wouldn't happen. There would be respect offered.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, Hillsdale's a conservative and traditional college, so I just. But that.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

We all know that you know it and I know it. And yet, for example, I went to.

[Buck Sexton]

Amherst and Justice Scalia, when I was there, spoke. I know this is a while ago.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But it was a zoo. Oh, my gosh, people in the political science department boycotted it, and the professors and everything.

[Buck Sexton]

And. Oh, and people were, you know, banging.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Cowbells, and it was a total. Just madness. This is not a both sides thing. They embrace this because it's who they are. Fundamentally, this is what the left. This is what the Democrat Party has become. And that's why you run through these examples in your head and you go, hold on a second, by the way.

[Buck Sexton]

There are people that were dressed up at that. At that Scalia speech who were in duck costumes.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

Because the big scandal of the day.

[Buck Sexton]

Some of you remember, was that Scalia had gone duck hunting with Dick Cheney at some. Some ranch or something somewhere. And so that was a schedule they did. Just. They were both there. They both went duck hunting. And that was a big scandal. So there was people in duck costumes outside, like.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

But this is the stuff that they do. It is our cultures, the right and the left in this country, the political cultures are different. And we need to be very clear on this. Yes, we know, but we can't allow them to pretend that this is something.

[Buck Sexton]

That we both have to work on, or. No, no.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

We. We are the ones who do things.

[Buck Sexton]

With some respect and civility, and they simply do not. And that's why when AOC is saying something like, Charlie Kirk is, you know, ignorant and uneducated. Okay, like, on what? Also, I know some of you already thinking this.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

If there would be such a thing.

[Buck Sexton]

As a mercy rule in a debate, if we could have had Charlie and AOC on a stage together, first of all, it would have been amazing viewing. I mean, I would have been there with the popcorn and the whole thing and it would have been an absolute butt kicking. And we all know that. And I think AOC even knows that. So for him to call Charlie, for her, rather to call Charlie ignorant and uneducated is just so. There's so much chutzpah there. There's so much dishonesty there. And I just couldn't let it go. And she is going to be the standard bearer for the Democrats, for a big part of the Democrats going forward. This is what we are going to be up against. So get ready for it. A person who is very politically savvy in her own way.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

In her own way. She gets the branding, she gets the presentation. Yes, she's an airhead, but doesn't mean she's not going to be a problem. Look at what she's already been able to accomplish. Yeah, she doesn't understand reality and policy.

[Buck Sexton]

And history, but you know who doesn't? Neither Maduro in Venezuela like that. Some of the people that there are, there are, there are moron thugs who run entire countries. Okay? There are, you know, look at, look at the history of communism just littered.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

With people who, you know, should have been left to what they were originally.

[Buck Sexton]

Doing, which is usually, you know, throwing, you know, throwing bricks at people on the street. So I'm just saying get ready for it. I think the, the, the democrat era of AOC is, is coming upon us.

[Buck Sexton (Host)]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton (Host)]

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[Buck Sexton (Host)]

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