Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 23 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review

Episode Date: September 23, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis, Buck Sexton
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the week’s major political and cultural stories with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton’s trademark blend of analysis and humor. Key topics include Donald Trump’s appearance at the United Nations, the resurgence of climate change discourse, the controversy around Kamala Harris’s book tour, the censorship admissions from YouTube and Google, the suspension/saga of Jimmy Kimmel, and congressional insider trading, particularly in New Jersey’s gubernatorial race. The hosts voice sharp critiques against perceived liberal hypocrisy, media bias, and the broader political establishment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. United Nations Visit: Trump’s Speech and NYC Logistics

• Timestamps: [03:37]–[05:41]
• Clay opens with frustration over the logistical mess caused by the UN General Assembly in New York, suggesting the event should be moved elsewhere to avoid disrupting daily life for residents.
  • “If we're going to have the UN On US Soil ... it should not be in New York City because it makes everything a mess for the 8 million people who actually live there for the two weeks it's there.” —Clay Travis [03:37]
• Trump’s UN presence: Clay praises Trump for his directness, especially for “laying down the law” and calling out the “climate change nonsense”.
• Buck points out the cyclical concern for climate change in the media, noting how quickly priorities shift.
  • “It went from the thing that they were obsessed with that we didn't care about at all to nobody cares about it to now they're going to pretend they care again. Sort of like also the war in Ukraine.” —Clay Travis [06:23]

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2. Climate Change and Liberal Fads

• Timestamps: [05:41]–[06:32]
• Buck references a New York Times piece questioning why climate change has faded from the spotlight.
• The hosts mock the performative concern many liberals show for causes like Ukraine and climate change, suggesting it’s more about self-image than substantive action.
• Clay draws parallels between the “religion” of masking during COVID and climate change for the “too smart for religion” crowd.

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3. Kamala Harris Book Tour & The View Exchange

• Timestamps: [22:35]–[36:59]
• Buck and Clay ridicule Kamala Harris’s attempt to revive her image via a new book. They reference a problematic answer she gave on The View, where she couldn’t name anything she’d have done differently from President Biden.
  • “There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of. And I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.” —Kamala Harris [26:58]
• They replay Sunny Hostin’s questions, highlighting the obviousness of Kamala’s blunder.
  • “They didn't weaponize her answer. They just used her answer. Yes, she weaponized the answer by being a moron.” —Buck Sexton [29:28]
• Wider point: The inability to admit mistakes or offer honest answers undermines credibility and public trust.
• Clay compares this to Sarah Palin’s infamous “what do you read?” gaffe: both failed at basic communication.
• Buck and Clay brainstorm how even a basic non-answer would have sufficed for Kamala.

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4. Jimmy Kimmel, Disney, and Hypocrisy in Free Speech

• Timestamps: [08:39]–[17:00]; [38:18]–[39:58]
• The hosts respond to the outrage over Jimmy Kimmel’s brief suspension from ABC, mocking liberal media figures (notably Howard Stern’s protest via canceling Disney+):
  • “These libs are such babies. This is, this is not even a scintilla … of the cancellation and censorship and everything that the right has been dealing with for 20 years now, especially online.” —Clay Travis [10:07]
• Buck theorizes that Disney’s real interest lies in extracting itself from news and minimizing controversy to protect business relationships with the NFL and other leagues.
• Clay and Buck both highlight that left-wing personalities rarely face true censorship and are “crybabies” when it happens.
• Note: Outage of the Kimmel show due to affiliate issues could impact up to 35% of viewers. Buck teases potential fallout.

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5. YouTube & Big Tech Censorship Admissions

• Timestamps: [07:54]–[08:39]; [38:18]–[48:59]
• The hosts discuss Google/YouTube’s recent admission to the House Judiciary Committee that they censored COVID-related content and conservative voices under pressure from the Biden administration.
  • “Every time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I don't think you should get the COVID shot... we would get strikes... At one point, they suspended us... for a month, from being able to make any money at all.” —Clay Travis [41:19]
• Impact: Conservative outlets lost millions, possibly billions, due to suppression of monetization and distribution.
• Buck and Clay highlight their own show’s experiences with shadow bans, suppressed interviews (e.g., Rand Paul, Trump), and relegation to “YouTube jail”.
• Deep frustration that the Supreme Court “whiffed” on protecting online free speech:
  • “The Supreme Court had this case and it was, I think one of the most important First Amendment cases that they have had in my life.... One of the worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time.” —Clay Travis [50:25]
• Warning: Big Tech likely to revert to censorship if/when the political winds shift.

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6. Critique of ESPN, Sports Media, and Cultural Shifts

• Timestamps: [13:07]–[14:29]
• Clay laments ESPN’s drift from news reporting to endless, shallow debate segments.
• They note how Disney’s priorities are now business-driven (“glorified middleman”), steering clear of real news to avoid hurting partners.
• Humorous interlude about Clay’s gym habits and his unapologetic love for Mountain Dew.

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7. Congressional Insider Trading & NJ Gubernatorial Race

• Timestamps: [58:35]–[72:36]
• Focus on Mikie Sherrill, Democratic NJ gubernatorial candidate, and allegations about rapid wealth accumulation via stock trades possibly tied to inside information.
  • “If you're a member of Congress making about 180 grand... if you made $7 million trading the stock market... I think you should know.” —Clay Travis [60:42]
• Hosts and Charlemagne tha God (clip) press Sherrill on mysteriously large profits.
  • Sherrill: “I haven’t. I don’t believe I did. But I’d have to go see what that was alluding to again, what kind of came from…” [60:34]
• Discussion highlights systemic issues: lack of meaningful prosecution for congressional insider trading; weak disclosure laws; need for reforms like mandatory blind trusts or index fund investment for all lawmakers.
• Clay recounts the COVID early-briefing scandal: Congress members dumped stock after hearing private warnings, a clear appearance of corruption.
• Legislative history: The STOCK Act requires disclosure but prosecution is rare and difficult to enforce for trading connected to government knowledge.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media Fads:
  “It went from the thing that they were obsessed with ... to nobody cares about it to now they're going to pretend they care again. Sort of like also the war in Ukraine. Where are all those Ukraine flags?” —Clay Travis [06:23]

• On Kamala Harris’s Book Tour and Communication Fumbles:
  “They didn't weaponize her answer. They just used her answer. Yes, she weaponized the answer by being a moron.” —Buck Sexton [29:28]

• On Censorship Double Standards:
  “These libs are such babies. ... This is not even a scintilla ... of the cancellation and censorship and everything that the right has been dealing with for 20 years now, especially online.” —Clay Travis [10:07]

• On Big Tech’s Role:
  “They would not air my show live because we were getting so many strikes that were disallowing us from being able to monetize. ... This damages – it might be in the billions.” —Clay Travis [41:19]

• On Congressional Insider Trading:
  “I think it should be standard for everyone out there. And if they're arguing otherwise, I think it's highly suspect for people to be trading hundreds of times in a year.” —Clay Travis [66:45]

• On Public Trust and Corruption:
  “We don't just focus on corruption itself. We focus on the appearance of corruption because it's so toxic to public trust. How is there not a direct appearance of corruption when individual congressmen and women are making trades and destroying the greatest investors of our lifetimes in their results?” —Clay Travis [67:12]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• UN General Assembly/Trump & NYC: [03:37]–[05:41]
• Climate Change Coverage Disappearing: [05:41]–[06:32]
• Kamala Harris Book & The View: [22:35]–[36:59]
• Jimmy Kimmel Suspension & Media Hypocrisy: [08:39]–[17:00]; [38:18]–[39:58]
• YouTube/Google Censorship: [38:18]–[48:59]
• ESPN, Sports Media Critique: [13:07]–[14:29]
• Congressional Stock Trades (Mikie Sherrill): [58:35]–[72:36]

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Episode Tone & Style

Fast-paced, irreverent, and combative—but also laced with humor and banter. Both hosts maintain a conversational, “in the trenches” perspective, mixing personal anecdotes with policy critique and cultural commentary.

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For Further Listening

For those interested in First Amendment issues, political media controversies, or corruption reform, this episode provides a critical (conservative-leaning) deep-dive into several interrelated hot topics shaping national debate in late 2025.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Indeed. So do us a solid and pre order yours on Amazon today. Welcome, everybody, Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are racked and stacked. A lot to talk to you about today, breaking down all the news for you. Trump at the United nations, producer Greg, among others, snarled in endless traffic while bureaucrats from around the planet run up their government expense accounts that are very nice New York City restaurants and block off lots of streets, which makes it impossible to get anywhere. If we're going to have the UN On US Soil, which I don't really think we should, we should have it in like, you know, I don't know, Wilmington or Omaha or you name it. It should not be in New York City because it makes everything a mess for the 8 million people who actually live there for the two weeks it's there. I know Omaha listeners. We have a robust audience there. You're yelling at me. Absolutely not. Ok, well, maybe Wilmington. I don't know how many Wilmington listeners we have, but it should be in some place. You know, Clay, there's a reason that so many countries have these capitals that they've set up to be the capital. This is true, which is originally True of Washington, D.C. but it's true in a lot of countries more recently, you know, whether it's Brasilia in Brazil or Islamabad, because they want to put all the government infrastructure there and it's just easier putting the United nations in midtown Manhattan is a mess. Anyway, enough of the logistics of that. I've given love to our WOR listeners who have probably had a rough commute. If you can work remote for the next week or two at the UN with the UN General assembly going on, you should do so. But Trump was there. He's laying down the law On a whole bunch of things. I love that he is telling people, forget about this climate change nonsense. Because this is going to be a moment, Clay, where the libs all of a sudden pretend again to care about climate change. It's one of these rare issues that it is. It's not just that it's a big issue. And we're about to get into Jimmy Kimmel. We're about to get into Kamala's book. We got a million things. I'm a little fired up about you.

[Buck Sexton]

You reminded me. I meant to mention yesterday about how climate change has vanished. Sunday New York Times magazine cover. Why does no one talk about climate change now that's like this for weeks.

[Clay Travis]

That's.

[Buck Sexton]

I meant to bring it up yesterday because I was reading the Sunday New York Times. I do it so you don't have to much like buck. This brand new Kamala Harris first edition is going to be reading it so you don't have to.

[Clay Travis]

Is it a signed edition? I don't know. It will be when Clay goes to the book event, though.

[Buck Sexton]

It was a huge cover story. And again I'm paraphrasing, but it basically this Sunday was why do we not talk about climate change anymore? Have we just given up? You know, you're true, you're correct that it has vanished.

[Clay Travis]

It went from the thing that they were obsessed with that we didn't care about at all to nobody cares about it to now they're going to pretend they care again. Sort of like also the war in Ukraine. Where are all those Ukraine flags? Ukraine needs the libs that care so much about who controls Donbas now more than ever. And yet not seeing a lot of that. Not seeing a lot. Almost like this is a thing that people attach themselves to so that they can feel good about themselves without any actual skin in the game or doing anything. Ok, certainly true of climate change, I might add. But we will talk more about what Trump has said at the United Nations. We'll certainly discuss Kamala's book, which is, I gotta say, it's just everybody just trashing this thing so far. And I don't mean to be clear, usually this book would come out from a Democrat who had just run and if she had a future. Not going to argue with Clay over this today, but we all know how we feel about this. If she had a future, there would be a lot of people in the Democrat establishment who were saying, you know, oh, man, like, it just was so tough for her. And, and, you know, she's, she's a great candidate. And everyone's saying, wow, she's kind of nasty. And. And really not. Not so good. And we'll talk about some of the clips and some of her promo for the book. And yes, I did buy a copy of it, which I feel guilty about, but I had to do it. Team, you know, that. That. That just is one of these things. I will take one for the team. I don't know what else to tell you, so I'm doing that. And we've also got. What else is in the mix here? YouTube.

[Buck Sexton]

YouTube, diving in. This is going to be a big story going forward because it just is. Yet another thing that we were right about and told you. And now they're like, oh, yeah, by the way, we were censoring everybody about COVID and banning. All sorts of people who ended up being right about everything. Our bad. You know, our bad. Sorry. And you're just kind of looking around.

[Clay Travis]

Like, I had a personal YouTube channel that shut down. Strike. Strike. Shut down. I mean, over and over again. I stopped with YouTube because I was like, this is crazy, because you couldn't even say. I could not say, don't. That mask wearing outside was unnecessary outside, which every single study, all of the data said that that is absolutely worthless and insane. There's no reason.

[Buck Sexton]

It didn't matter.

[Clay Travis]

Didn't matter. Masking was a religion, kind of like climate change is a religion for people who think they're too smart for religion, as I've told you. We'll get into all that, though. And, yeah, the YouTube censorship. Speaking of censorship, Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel's his face painted on walls and water towers across America. And what. What happened to Jimmy Kimmel? He was off the air for four days.

[Buck Sexton]

Four shows.

[Clay Travis]

Four shows. And Disney brings him right back. This is funny because there have been libs who have canceled their.

[Buck Sexton]

Here.

[Clay Travis]

Here's Howard Stern, who's become a huge, very annoying lib. Maybe he always was, but at least now he's really bad. Here he is 15, saying, well, I'll let you hear it from. From this guy. Play 15.

[Howard Stern]

I just know when the government begins to interfere. When the government says, I'm not pleased with you, so we're going to orchestrate a way to silence you. It's the wrong direction for our country, and I should know. I've been involved in something like this. And now ABC is put in the same position. And it's unfortunate that ABC even has to be in this position. They shouldn't have to be in this position. I feel for them, too. In this, but someone's got to step up and be saying, hey, enough. We're not going to bow. Now it might sound stupid, but the thing I did this morning, I'm canceling my Disney Plus I'm trying to say with the pocketbook that I do not support what they're doing with Jimmy.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, can I just point this out? Now he's saying he canceled Disney. So I guess he's going to resubscribe to Disney off the air for four days. These libs are such babies. This is, this is not even a scintilla Clay. This is not even a, a, a tiny little sliver of the cancellation and censorship and everything that the right has been dealing with for 20 years now, especially online. And we're supposed to care that Jimmy Kimmel, the government didn't take him off the air? You know how we know that he's back on the air? I guess the government wasn't so scary after all. ABC News did this, I think to protect him because the second round of what he was going to say on air was even dumber than the first.

[Buck Sexton]

I think there's truth to that. I have been saying since this all started and I think people are going to slowly start to recognize this is about Disney trying to buy the NFL Network. I'm sorry, Jimmy Kimmel is just a pawn here. I think if Disney could just do away with almost all news, I think they would because they basically done it at espn. ESPN breaks no news now they're in bed with the NFL. They're in bed with the sec. They're in bed with the NBA. Every time they break news, it just hurts their business partners. And so they're basically just a glorified middleman when it comes to sports. And then I think Disney just wants to make look left wing, unfortunate programming. But I don't think they actually want to do news. I, I think if they could sell ABC News and get out of the news business completely, I think it's just a mess to them. It doesn't make any money. Jimmy Kimmel show loses money. At this point, if you were just analyzing aspects of their business, this creates way more headaches than it does provide profits. And that's a bad combination. And I think they want out.

[Clay Travis]

You know, I, I gotta say I. When I'm at the gym. Clay. Down to 190. By the way, I'm coming for you, buddy.

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Where are you?

[Buck Sexton]

180. You're going to catch me. You 185. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know. I saw you putting away that ham sandwich the other day? I'm thinking 187 maybe. But anyway, yes. By the way, I have to respect one thing about Clay. You know, you all know Clay is. Clay is Clay. And he's been. He's been a very successful entrepreneur, put it that way. He will still drink a big old bottle of Mountain Dew in our studio. He is the only person I know, the only human being I know who in his 40s drinks Mountain Dew. So I got to say, play does not change one bit.

[Buck Sexton]

Laura has gotten me to give up soda, but I just blow you up in front of. Well, I occasionally will have a soda, but it is super unhealthy. I get ripped all the time for the clothes that I wear, for the. For the, The. The food choices that I make. I really haven't changed very much since I was like, 18, for better or worse. So when it comes to what I wear or what I eat.

[Clay Travis]

And so I would just say all back to the Kimmel thing for a second, because I was. I was saying when I. When I go to the gym and I've gotten down 190 now, I.

[Buck Sexton]

Whenever I see the.

[Clay Travis]

The screen, it's always sports in my gym. They don't. They don't allow Fox News. Only sports are on all that. They don't have any news, to be fair.

[Buck Sexton]

Really.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe CNN's on sometimes. I got to talk to him about that, But I see what that. What the headlines are. And it's never news about sports. It's always just people having inane or inane discussions. Like, is so. And I, you know, I know, you know, all these people and their backgrounds. I mean, the people they're talking about. But it's always is so and so's new coaching contract, like, too much or just about. Right? And then you have adults sitting around talk. I'm like, who cares? Like, what is this? You're talking someone else's coaching pay, and they'll have four people at a table. And I can just see because it's all scrolling with the text. I'm like, I cannot believe there are. There are adults having this conversation. And this is like a thing that they're doing on this show. Who cares? But. But I have even noticed that it's not sports reporting anymore. Yeah, they're not breaking news about the sports industry. It's like, who's better? You know, it's all versions of who's better? LeBron or Jordan. It's all, you know, I take this side, you take that side of Inane argument at espn. And I think it's just because you're right about how they really just want to be a middleman broadcasting of live sports with a lot of chatter in between.

[Buck Sexton]

The last. The worst thing for them would be to blow up one of their franchise properties because they do a story that knocks a really good, talented player out of being able to be on television for them because it costs the money. Speaking of being on television, I now have an FS1 show where I sit around and talk about all the inane sports things that airs at 6pm Eastern.

[Clay Travis]

I didn't even know I got every. I gotta watch at the gym now.

[Buck Sexton]

Every Wednesday, if you're working out at 6pm FS1, you'll just see me. This is actually pretty funny. It's just me sitting and making sports arguments. I don't have anybody that I'm debating. It's just me in my own head. Laura, Today, this is 100% true or taping it. We tape it a day early. She said, what time are you taping? And I was like, oh, maybe she wants to come up. Pay attention. See the, you know, sports arguments. And I was like, oh, you know, 2:30. And she said, okay. And I was like, you know, you got something going on? She was like, no, I just want to make sure that we have someone putting makeup on you because. And I was like, well, I've been doing television for a long time. You know, I don't ever wear makeup unless I'm in a studio. And she was like, yeah, but this one, they really kind of zoom in on you. This is all 100% true. And I was like, so you're telling me I have to wear. She was like, yeah, yeah, I think you have to wear makeup. So this is. I will be made up. But I. But I usually am never in makeup for any hit. But Laura was like, no, the camera's too hd. They're too close. They really zoom in on you. You need to have makeup on.

[Clay Travis]

She's just. Look, she's just looking out for you. Someone's got to tell you the hard truths, Clay. And Laura's ready. She's ready for it. I will say this, Jimmy Kimmel, back on the air. We both said this was going to happen. So we were. We knew this was going to happen. I pointed out immediately when this happened. I said, guys, it's an indefinite suspension. That does not mean. And even the White House was saying, oh, he's been canceled. He's, you know, his show has been canceled. No it hasn't. He's back on the air. Very curious to see if there's. I don't think they'll really. My guess is there won't really be any shift in the ratings. But to me, Clay, more than anything else, this just goes to show you libs have no idea what actual censorship and being shut down is because they don't experience it. And the moment that they can even make a fake argument, in my opinion, this was always a. ABC was always driving this shit. It was not the Trump, Trump administration that was at the helm here. And, and the fact that they tried to make this argument so quickly and so, you know, so vociferously just goes to show you they're a bunch of crybabies and they just want different rules for us and different rules for them. And unfortunately, they still have it at abc.

[Buck Sexton]

One wrinkle here that is not being talked about very much but is still in play. Nextar and Sinclair are not carrying it. So for instance, in Nashville, my ABC affiliate, I won't be able to watch the Jimmy Kimmel Show. And many of you out there that have either a Sinclair or Nextar affiliate and you wouldn't know unless you put your television on at 11:30pm Eastern, 10:30 Central. You wouldn't really know whether or not probably who your affiliate is. But that is something that I think could still be an issue because around 35% of viewers nationwide will not have access to this show. And I'm curious somewhat to see what he says. I'll tell you what I think he should say when we come back. In the meantime, it's been nearly two years since Hamas terrorists murdered more than 1200 innocent Israelis, took 250 hostages before the day was over. In a couple of weekends, there's going to be a special remembrance. And remember, Hamas still has hostages. Two years they have been holding some of these hostages. This weekend, as we get ready, a couple of weekends from now, Flags of Fellowship is going to be going on, organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Date is Sunday, October 5th, just a couple of weeks away, millions of Americans will plant an Israeli flag. And in honor and solidarity with the victims of October 7, 2023 and their grieving families. To learn how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the fellowship [e-mail] stand up for Israel and join the movement. That's ifcj.org saving America. One thought at a time. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you GET YOUR podcast Life's.

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[Clay Travis]

All right, let's talk Kamala for a little bit because she's on her book tour. You all remember Kamala Harris. She's the vice president for, for four years. She was disastrous in every role they pretended to give her. She didn't even have to do anything. She just had to not make it clear that she had no idea about the thing that she had been made in charge of or the czar of. Like the border. We all remember we've been to the border. Unless you're Holt being like, lady, you haven't been to the border. Like, you can't, you know, there's only so much we can do for you here at, what is that? ABC News, right?

[Buck Sexton]

NBC, I think.

[Clay Travis]

NBC.

[Buck Sexton]

If less if Lester Holt lights you up, I mean, that's like, you know.

[Clay Travis]

That'S like, that's like Mr. Rogers throwing an elbow and hit you right in the jaw. You know, that's tough.

[Buck Sexton]

Like, you know, like if, if you were walking down the street and you bumped into Al Roker and he like just beat your, beat you up, you'd be like, I, I, I don't feel good about your chances to defend yourself against anybody. I mean, when you get bodied by Lester Holt, you're probably not a very serious politician.

[Clay Travis]

Old school Al would have had a little more weight to throw behind it. But you know, to be fair, but now, yeah, now you can't, you can't get, you can't get slapped around by him. We have so much about Kamala that's worth discussing. And let's, let's just go back to this one because her book is out now. And remember, if you're like, buck, why do we care? Well, first of all, there's an election coming up in a year, basically 15 months or so. You're going to start to see people at the exploratory committees and raising money or whatever. So it's not that far out. But even beyond that, who's the leader of the Democrat Party right now? And we talk about this day to day because we know there's opposition to Trump and the Republicans out there. We know that they actually got a lot of votes in this last election. We're not forgetting about that. But there has to be some group of people, if not one person who are really driving the, you know, driving the boat or, you know, making, making the decisions about where the party's going. And it's very unclear right now in a way that it has never been. We, we have lived, Clay, right through the era of Clintons, Obamas, Bidens a little bit. But, you know, there have been these names in politics. Like, we all knew who the top Democrats were more or less for the last 20 years, who the big names were. And, you know, there was a little period where you had some, you know, John Kerry was making a play for it.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

And there have been some others, but now we don't know. And it's worth noting that they don't know either. And it's fun to watch the scramble here on the View, trying to, trying to push her book, and I'm sure she wants to sell a lot of copies because Kamala wants to make money. The View host Sunny Hostin, who I am told reliably, by the way, Clay, from a source very close to the show, is incredibly hostile to both staff and fellow panelists on that show.

[Buck Sexton]

Does that surprise you at all?

[Clay Travis]

Nope. But I was just told that recently. I cannot, I cannot divulge sources, but she is a, the, the, the story I am told that she is a nightmare to deal with for everybody, everybody on that show and said so all the, like, we love each other stuff is nonsense. It, it's, if you had to pick one who is impossible, it's her. I think, by far.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I don't even think there would be a close second.

[Clay Travis]

Look.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar often say and make moronic arguments, but they are, to be fair, comedians in background. Sunny is arrogant and dumb, which is a bad combination because she has no idea what she's talking about. This is one of the things like Notre Dame. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

There's like a bitterness to her, too, all the time.

[Buck Sexton]

Notre Dame Law School should ask for the JD Back. I don't, I, she is, she is awful and she seems awful. So that does not surprise me at all.

[Clay Travis]

So you will recall little throwback here. A little Throwback Tuesday to October 8th of 2024. So coming up on almost exactly a year ago, and that's also the other part of this. Right. It was a year ago that they were telling us Kamala's great. Vote for Kamala. You gotta vote for Kamala. We could tell they're like, do you really want to vote for Kamala, though? Do you really want. Not really. But here was about a year ago, Kamala, when asked on the View by Sunny Hostin if she would do anything differently. And this was magnifique. Perfection. Play it.

[Sunny Hostin]

If anything, would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years? There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of. And I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.

[Clay Travis]

Clay. Clay. That was, I mean, that was a moment where I was feeling so good about the prediction that he was going to do even better against, against Kamala that Trump was. Than he did against Hillary. She, you want. She was reacting.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's react to that again. I mean, Kamala has had, and even back then had months to prepare for every possible question that could be answered, could be asked. This is not a very difficult proposition, you and I. You're going to have your book coming out in, in, in January. I'll have my book coming out in November. We will be asked hundreds of questions as part of book promotion. And we will have had no preparation. We'll have no whiteboarding. We'll have no team that sits around and just sketches out what our answers to questions should be because we're not morons. This was an inevitable and totally expected question that she bungled. And then she's talking about it now. She's promoting. She went back on for the first time. And I don't even know what the conversation was, but we've got audio of sonny Austin following 34.

[Clay Travis]

Play it.

[Sunny Hostin]

I asked you if there was anything you would have done differently than President Biden during the past four years, and you said, quote, there is not a thing that comes to mind, end quote. You write you had no idea. You just pulled the pin on a hand grenade. In the moment I knew the Trump campaign weaponized your answer against you. My question. And some, including James Carville and Jake Tapper, point to that answer as a turning point in your candidacy. Do you think that moment tipped the election?

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[Sunny Hostin]

No.

[Buck Sexton]

Good.

[Sunny Hostin]

Because Sunny was the one to take the bl.

[Clay Travis]

Can I point something out, Clay? Just in the lack of logic that Even Sunny Hostin, in that one little moment, shows us she knows that it's a horrible answer herself. She said that she knew right away. My God. Kamala's answer is absolutely atrocious. But then she goes to. And Republicans. Weaponized. Weaponized meaning like they. What? They took it out of context. They were unfair. No. If you knew it was a moronic answer, Sonny. Everybody knew it was a moronic answer.

[Buck Sexton]

They didn't weaponize her answer. They just used her answer. Yes, she weaponized the answer by being a moron. But I. So I jotted down on my little yellow notepad. Weaponized your answer, which you just hit second part there that I also jotted down. Everybody laughed because they know that Sonny Hostin is not there to actually do journalism. She's there to burnish Kamala Harris's credentials. Play that cut again. Because the weaponized answer is interesting. But the joke that everybody laughs at because it's true is Sunny Hostin didn't want to do anything that might in any way harm Kamala Harris's candidacy. And all of the audience understands it, too. Play that cut one more time because I think it just goes to. The failure of the view of all things to actually have a wide variety of views is one of the issues that I think ABC News is dealing with in general. Let's play that one more time.

[Sunny Hostin]

I asked you if there was anything you would have done differently than President Biden during the past four years, and you said, quote, there is not a thing that comes to mind, end quote. You write you had no idea. You just pulled the pin on a hand grenade in the moment. I knew the Trump campaign weaponized your answer against you. My question. And some, including James Carville and Jake Tapper, point to that answer as a turning point in your candidacy. Do you think that moment tipped the election?

[Clay Travis]

No. No.

[Buck Sexton]

Good.

[Sunny Hostin]

Because Sonny wasn't want to take the blame.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think it's. Yeah, I don't think it tipped the election. I just think it was solidifying. I think Clay, if anything, that was a straw that broke the camel's back situation. I don't think that it was. It's not like everybody thought Kamala was great, and then she said that, and they said, whoa, where did that come from? It was, oh, my God, she's as dumb and unprepared as we thought she was this whole time. And even people who maybe were open to I'll vote either way had to see that and say, this is preposterous.

[Buck Sexton]

I also think. And you're going to be the expert on this because you have bought and downloaded the newest Kamala book. You know, how you, when you finished your book, and certainly when I finished my book, at some point, you've gone over it enough times that it's hard to see it with a fresh eye because you poured over it so much. I think one of the most challenging aspects, I would bet, of making a movie, certainly I know writing a book is. Is eventually seeing it as a fresh reader will. I think that is where instincts politically matter. And what I have read already of the reviews of Kamala's book is that I think she didn't understand how much distaste there was for Joe Biden. And she didn't think she had given a bad answer to that question. And her advisors might not have realized it was a bad answer either because they're so close to the Biden administration that they've lost perspective on how it looks to the larger voting public. And they thought she needed to ally herself with Biden because he was popular enough that she couldn't show any distinction between herself and him.

[Clay Travis]

She, she should have. If she were a skilled politician, she would have known that the single biggest vulnerability the Democrats had in this last election was the 10 million people who poured into the country via illegal and, and fraudulent means. And if she had said, you know, if she was a skilled politician, she would have said something, in my opinion, Clay, like, you know, Joe Biden, we had so many victories and, you know, there's. I don't want to forget about those, but I would say that given the realities of the complexities of our immigration system, we needed to have that reform done earlier to, to make sure that only, you know, the, the legitimate asylum seekers and the best and the brightest, blah, blah, blah. And that's what we'll do in my next term is to figure out how we're only getting or how we are getting not only getting, you know, great immigrants from all over the world. You know, by the way, this audience is not going to like that answer, but that's an answer that could have worked. That's the point. Instead, you just said nonsense.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't even think the answer is that hard if you are a decent politician. I think the answer to that question is Joe Biden did a lot of things. We took over an economy and disaster because of the awful leadership. I'm answering it as if I were Kamala. The awful leadership of Donald Trump who failed to lead us. Well, during COVID We took over a dumpster fire first thing we had to do was put the fire out. I understand that people feel like they haven't seen the results of the work we've done yet. That's what I'm here to do. We've put the fire out. We're put America back on its feet. And, and we are working towards getting things infinitely better. So there are a lot of things that I think we both could have done better. I think we did a much better job than Trump, and I know we're going to do a much better job in the next four years. Look, that's me off the cuff answering that question.

[Clay Travis]

And that's a great non answer. That's a great non answer answer. But that's all she had to do, right, is say something like, we've done great things, we're going to do more great things. You don't say, I can't think of anything because that makes you seem like an empty vessel.

[Buck Sexton]

Not only that, it actually makes you endorse every decision that has been made, as opposed to saying, again, I would pivot and attack Trump in that answer. He's so bad, we took over a dumpster fire. The first thing you have to do is put out the fire. And it takes a while for the results of the work we're doing. I'm a younger version of Joe Biden. I'm going to do a better job connecting with the American public going forward. But I think we put the country on great footing. Any answer like that, it vanishes. Nobody pays attention to it.

[Clay Travis]

Look, I'll, I'll say this and people will get mad at me, but that's okay because you all know that it's true. Whatever you may think of Sarah Palin, the answer with Katie Couric was a similar. It was when someone asks you, what do you read? You say something. You say something. You don't say things like, I read things basically, or you know, or what do you mean by that? Right now you can say that's unfair. No one is. You know, I've trashed Katie Couric more than probably anybody else on the right these days. I mean, I still think that the fact that she got as far as she did in her career, she's just a ruthless mediocrity. But I'm just saying that was a bad answer from Sarah Palin. So you can't do that. You can't have the non answer to the question. That's an obvious question you should be ready for because even passersby in politics pick up on that. And Go, oh, that wasn't good.

[Buck Sexton]

And your job is to do two things as president. Make decisions and communicate. That's really it. Now, there are complexities associated with it. If you can't answer basic questions, your job as a communicator, let's leave aside the fact that I think Kamala would have been an awful decision maker, too. But if you can't even communicate answers to basic questions, then you're in real trouble. Trump is an elite communicator. I think he's making really good decisions, too. But those are the two jobs of the president. And if you can't do both at a high level, you're going to fail. And Biden was awful at everything. He would have done better going full Costanza Buck and just taking the opposite of every choice he made. The country would have been better off.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Okay, this is something that is significant that I think actually ties in quite a bit with the Jimmy Kimmel Story. So Jimmy Kimmel is going to be back on air much of the nation, but not if you have a nexstar or a Sinclair affiliate carrying your ABC station. I have a nexstar affiliate here in Nashville. So I will not get Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight. Some of you will. Some of you will not. It will return. I'm sure we'll be talking about what he will say there. But there has been a massive outpouring of attention on Jimmy Kimmel not having his show. He was preempted, suspended, whatever phrase you want to use, from the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Monday editions of his program. And he is now going to be back on air on Tuesday. So he missed four shows. You would think that it was the largest, most significant attack on free speech that we have ever seen, based on the response from the left. So Jimmy misses four shows. Similarly, if you care about free speech, a story that is almost going to get no attention whatsoever, but I think is one of the most significant of the 21st century, and that is YouTube has admitted that it censored conservative speakers on their platform at the behest of the Biden administration. We're going to talk to Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But, Buck, let me just give you a sense for how this went down. As someone who ran a media company and needed to be making money on YouTube, as many media companies do, every time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I don't think you should get the COVID shot. I don't think you need it if you're young and healthy. All these things which have been proven to be true, you mentioned masking. Every time I said things like wearing a mask when you walk into a restaurant and then taking it off when you sit down at a table is nonsensical. We would get strikes, and when we got strikes, they would prevent us from monetizing our content. And at one point in time, because Tommy Lahren is also one of our employees at Outkick, at one point in time, they suspended us, I believe it was, for a month, from being able to make any money at all. And they now are saying, hey, we shouldn't have done that, and we'll talk about it with Jim Jordan. But this is actual free speech being attacked. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, who would have the opportunity to miss four days and come back and he's making millions of dollars, many people out there, including you, Buck, were curtailed significantly, including me, including the company that I ran Outkick, because we were willing to say the truth. About the COVID shot and about wearing masks and about all of this such that this is what they did. This is crazy, but I'm just. I'm taking you behind the curtain. I sold the company in 2021. They stopped allowing my show to air live, and they would edit out any reference that I happened to make to Covid shots, to masking, to. To schools being closed, all those things, and then post it so they could monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how crazy that is. That is what. And again, this was the company to try to make money to pay people salaries. YouTube is a huge driver of revenue for virtually every media company in the country. Now. They would not air my show live because we were getting so many strikes that were disallowing us from being able to monetize this damages. It might be in the billions of dollars that quote, unquote, conservative. I would just say common sense YouTubers were dealing with for simply questioning whether we needed to be mandating shots, whether they made sense. They essentially took the Biden administration and did what the Biden administration would not be able to do, which is censor political speech.

[Clay Travis]

They would do it again. Yes, the part of this that we all know, that's very frustrating. They're just backing off right now because they don't want the eye of Trump to focus in on them too closely in this moment while our team, so to speak, is in power. That's so, you know, it's hard to feel good about this other than we were right. And, you know, I had. I had a, you know, small YouTube channel that got shut down and. And it was the kind of thing where you get a strike or two, and then you don't want to deal with it anymore, and so you just stop. You know, it was. I was doing a radio show at the time, but I was trying to also just put stuff out clay on YouTube separately. And I just realized this is nonsense. I mean, I had a whole politifact story on me about masks and. And other things. You know, just trying to trash me and Facebook, by the way, the same thing shut down on Facebook anyway, I'm not. This isn't what was me. They did it. They did to a lot of people in our space. In fact, if they didn't do it to you and you're a conservative, I would wonder, like, where were you during COVID and how are you in any way useful? But these. These companies, they're admitting it now, like I said, because we're of where the wind is blowing. They would. We should not have any illusions they would do this again in a heartbeat. And there's. It's not a fair game. It's a rigged game on YouTube. It's a rigged game on Facebook and has been for years and rigged against people who are right of center. So that is very frustrating because these platforms, because they were dishonest about it and they got really big. I mean, this is something that. Else that I think everyone needs to understand. YouTube and Facebook, in the early days, they were, OK, we're going to allow different perspectives. And it was essentially like a free speech within the law, which is what it should always be. And people say, oh, but you know, you shouldn't be able to just have copyrighted material or, oh, you shouldn't be able to have, you know, material that's illegal. That, of course, no one's, no one's saying that this is about. I don't like the content. I'm going to. And I'm going to block the audience from seeing it and artificially shut it down, which is what they did. And they did it for purely partisan purposes. They should be ashamed. They're not ashamed. I'll point this out to you. They don't care. They're just doing what's smart for them right now. But for a lot of us, man, this is, this is a reminder of what we're up against and the kind of stuff that they were pulling and everything we said that they were doing was True.

[Buck Sexton]

This show. YouTube refused to allow us to post our Rand Paul interview because of his.

[Clay Travis]

Senator and an md, a medical doctor and a senator would not let us put it on the Internet.

[Buck Sexton]

Running for reelection. When in theory, whatever you think about Rand Paul, you should want every single aspect of his political views to be as widely distributed as possible. They took down our interview with President Trump from Bedminster. YouTube.

[Clay Travis]

Yep.

[Buck Sexton]

Now I want all of you to go subscribe to YouTube, Clay and Buck right now. But I guarantee you we are still minimized in distribution and algorithmic success because.

[Clay Travis]

The problem, the ghost machine linger for a long time afterwards. Once, Once you're in YouTube jail, you can basically never get out. That's the issue. Once they decide that you're. You're on the naughty list, you don't get. Because it's all about the algorithmic showing of shows to people so you can get more subscribers and so that your own audience can see it. When they decide that they're going to limit your reach, you're done.

[Buck Sexton]

They put you. They put you in Jail here, by the way, is what the House Judiciary Committee and Jim Jordan put out. Just specifically so you know, the Biden administrator, Google, admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee. One, the Biden administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies. Two, the Biden administration's censorship pressure was unacceptable and wrong. Three, public debate should never come at the expense of relying authorities. Four, the company will never use third party fact checkers and Europe censor. Five, Europe censorship laws targeting American companies and threatening American speech, including the removal of lawful content. And again, we'll talk with Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But this is crazy. We talked about it on this program. Some of you will remember it. But sitting United States Senator Rand Paul interviewed on this program not allowed to be posted on YouTube. President Trump, when we sat down with him at Bedminster and interviewed him, they would not allow us to post that entire interview.

[Clay Travis]

Can I just. The Rand Paul issue as well had to do with. With COVID and Fauci. Rand Paul is a practicing medical doctor.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

He is an actual MD and a US Senator. And they didn't let us post the interview on YouTube because it went against their, their communist guidelines. I mean, their, the absurdity. Right? I mean, they went full Beijing on us with this stuff and just decided what could and couldn't be said. And you know, it really. YouTube showed us who they are. I mean, I don't know. You know, look, I know I said that. I said, well, subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll use all the tools at our disposal to get the message out as far as we can, as fast as we can, while we have them. So. And I make no apologies for that, to be clear. So, yeah, we want to build up a YouTube presence now while we can, as long as we can, because we believe in what we say and we think people need to hear it. But is there trust? Is there trust that has been built with these entities that can only be done over time? That can only happen if they allow us to build up the audience that we know we can have. We have millions of radio listeners, Clay. We're, you know, we've been shadow banned on YouTube for a long time. Now they're telling us it's gone. Well, now let's see if it's gone.

[Buck Sexton]

I would also point out you will probably not hear a word from anybody who has been screaming about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech, actually discussing Google admitting that YouTube, which Google owns YouTube, that the Biden administration pressured Google SL YouTube to restrict a lot of videos out there and cost conservative media companies hundreds of millions of dollars and maybe billions. And my concern is what you just laid out, Buck. Yeah, they're doing this when Trump is in office. Now is that going to change whenever we have a Democrat back in the White House? Probably. And this is where this matters. The Supreme Court whiffed on this one. The Supreme Court had this case and it was, I think one of the most important First Amendment cases that they have had in my life. The Biden administration on Facebook, on YouTube, all over the Internet, these social media companies, they restricted speech by a third party. If you can deputize something that the government cannot do, the government can't restrict your in mind speech. If the government does it through a third party, then they're just deputizing someone else to do what they could not do. That's exactly what happened during COVID and there was an opportunity.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, One of the worst Supreme Court decisions I think we have six, three. One of the worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time. And if I went back and read through the decision, Clay, you know, I scanned through it quickly, I don't have time to read the whole thing again, but I went through just to remind myself of it and it was a lot of. But can you really prove that Biden pushed them and can you really prove there was a harm and can you really tell me they won't do this again or they will do this again? It's like, well, nothing is certain, guys. But I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Yeah, they did these things.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean Jen Psaki threatened the companies from the White House press briefing and all of the emails illustrate what they were doing. The fact that this was not an opportunity, that the Supreme Court didn't take this opportunity to say stridently, this is unacceptable and we're not going to stand for it. I think it's a failure of this, this current Supreme Court. I think it's their biggest.

[Clay Travis]

Amy Coney, Barrett and Roberts let you down, Clay. That's not the first or the last time, unfortunately.

[Buck Sexton]

Sadly. And this goes to. I don't think they understand the Internet that well and I don't mean that as a huge insult. Most 70 something year old people and most 60 something year old people don't really understand how the Internet works. I think I understand pretty well how the Internet works. I don't understand admiralty law very well. It's hard to be an expert on everything they whiffed here though.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, well, they. It's it is the public square now because it is so much faster and more powerful than printing out a pamphlet and handing it out to people in the town square. Online is the town square now. If you don't have free speech online, you don't have it meaningfully anywhere. And that's the pro. That's what I think they don't really grasp. You know, they still think like, well, Thomas Paine and his pamphlets. It's like Thomas Payne would be all over the Internet if you were around today. All right? It would be a very different world he'd be operating in. Look at steak night over at the Sextons. We got some New York strips. Bone in. New York strip, I might add, which a lot of people believe adds a little extra flavor with that bone in. Courtesy of our friends at Good Ranchers. I love Good Ranchers night over here. We have a few of them every month because I get a box from Good Ranchers delivered delicious steaks. All American Ranchers, All American Farms. Also chicken pork. They've got gluten free chicken nuggets for you if you want. They've got Wagyu burgers. I love this company. I eat their stuff all the time. Carrie and I are eating it tonight. It's going to be absolutely delicious. And right now, Clay and I are both subscribers of Good Ranchers. Right now you can get a 25 bucks off plus get free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. That free gift can be bacon, chicken nuggets, Wagyu burgers, and you can swap the gift out month to month. You want to try something new? GoodRanchers.com is the website to go to. Use my name Buck as your promo code. You get a one time 40 discount plus a 25 discount ongoing. In future months, we'll get you a great deal. You can reverse sear them, you can sous vide them, or you can throw them on that grill with the flame just dancing below however you want to cook them. But you need really good product to have really good steak night or really good chicken, really good pork. You gotta have that great underlying product. I'm a big believer in this. I take my proteins very seriously. Goodranchers.com they get it done. Use that promo code, Buck. Get your subscription going today.

[Buck Sexton]

News you can count on and some laughs too. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Do it for Clay, do it for freedom and get great content while you're there. The Clay Travis and buck Sexton Show YouTube channel. We've had Trump at the UN this morning saying the Trumpy things. Very, very good stuff from our Commander in Chief. We shall get into some of that here momentarily. But I would ask for a moment here, I just wanted to throw this in the mix before too much time has passed, Clay, and put out maybe a call for any of our New Jersey listeners to email us or vi, you know, VIPs email us or send in some talkbacks in New Jersey and we'll get some of them later on about this because there are gubernatorial races that are underway. Some of them are going to be hotly contested and important to states. Places like Virginia. We had Winsome Sears on. She's lieutenant Governor. Very impressive woman. But in New Jersey, remember, New Jersey was a much closer election. What was it, Clay? It was not this, but it was in the, it was in the off year that, that, that Glenn was a.

[Buck Sexton]

Point or two in 2021. And remember Trump only lost New Jersey by five last year and they think the Trump team does if they had had commonwealth level money that they could have flipped New Jersey into their column.

[Clay Travis]

So New Jersey is still blue, but it's, it's more interesting than they want it to be for sure. And this might help a bit more. This is just one of the great moments on, on Charlemagne, the God on the Breakfast Club. Mr. The God was sitting down with Democrat candidate, New Jersey Governor Mikey Sherrill. So the Democrat cab. Sorry, Democrat candidate for governor, Mikey Sherrill. And I'm not familiar. That's why I'm asking people to weigh in a little bit on what do I need to know about Mikey Sherrill. But this was a great moment and. Mr. The God asked about this and I think it was worth us all just hearing for a second because people are very sick and tired of members of the of Congress particularly, who seemingly are trading in a way in the stock market that mirrors information that they would only have access to because of things that they're doing in Congress and making a lot of money. She was asked Mikey Sherrill about this and here is the response from the Breakfast Club a couple of, of days ago. Play this.

[Buck Sexton]

When Newsmax claims that you made $7 million from stock trades, what are they talking about?

[Sunny Hostin]

Newsmax is first of all a very questionable organization that is paying multiple fines. I'm not sure what they're talking about.

[Buck Sexton]

Did you make 7 million in stock trades at all?

[Sunny Hostin]

I, I haven't. I don't believe I did. But I'd have to go see what.

[Buck Sexton]

What that was alluding to again, what.

[Clay Travis]

Kind of came from, uh, Clay, I think if you're a member of Congress making about 180 grand, by the way, I think that if you made $7 million trading the stock market, whether somebody else is making those trades on your behalf or you're making them, I think you should know.

[Buck Sexton]

Unless you're a billionaire and so rich that you couldn't plausibly say, I don't know what happened with $7 million. 99.99% of people in America would know if they made $7 million or not in the stock market. A lot of you out there would know if you made $700 in the stock market or not. Certainly 7,000 or 70,000, to say nothing of 7 million. These people are so bad at this buck. I just, I, I watch so many of these politicians and we've reached out, by the way, to Jack Citarelli, who is the Republican contender who almost won in 2021. He is the nominee on the Republican side for this race. To remind all of you, Virginia and New Jersey and the mayor of New York City are all off calendar elections, so they will be taking place this November. That's in basically Six weeks. Some of you basically can already go early vote on these. I just. I mean, credit to Charlemagne, the God who is of the left, I think, but is kind of pointing out a $7 million. Can you follow up and just kind of tell us what happened here?

[Clay Travis]

All right, I've. I've got some. I've got some. Some stats and numbers to throw into the mix here. Cheryl makes. I said 180, 174 grand. As New Jersey's 11th congressional district Rep. So she. Remember, they have financial disclosures, everybody. So we can know this public. It's public record how much money these individuals have within a range. But you have some sense of it. Right. So in 2019, she reported total assets between 730. And I'm just going to abbreviate the numbers here, but $730,004.3 million. Now, that's a huge range, by the way.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Because that includes your house. You know, to anybody listening, the difference being worth 700 grand on paper and being worth 4 million on paper feels like a lot. But anyway, that's where she was. But Clay, in her most recent one, in her most recent disclosure form, she's worth more like 12 million. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

This is tough to explain.

[Clay Travis]

And so you say to yourself, wait a second, she's making 174. It's not like she had some huge trust fund because we would know that from the financial disclosure forms previously. So somehow she has. And Jack Cittarelli has come out and hammered her on this somehow while a member of Congress sitting on the Armed Services Committee, who allegedly has a fondness for trading Clay and defense stocks. Interesting. She has gone from being worth, you know, let's call it a couple million dollars to put it in the middle, to being worth about $12 million. I mean, she could be worth as much as 4 million there. Even still, that would be a tripling of her net worth while making 180 grand a year.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, sometimes spouses make the money, which can also sometimes be suspect. Right. Because they'll say, well, this is not the money that I'm making. This is my spouse. I think this is what happened with. And I don't even know who her spouse is now, but Elon, now he's in.

[Clay Travis]

We'll get. He's an investment banker, so his compensation may be a significant part of this. But Clay, she was fined for failing to disclose stock sales in 2021.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this is where it gets very shady. OK, correct me if I'm wrong on this, because this seems like Something that shouldn't be allowed. You basically cannot prosecute elected officials like congressmen and senators for insider trading. Correct. Because they get all sorts of information that is not public and then they're allowed to trade on it. And this is where it gets super shady. This is like the Nancy Pelosi situation. The spouse oftentimes is the person who's actually trading on this and they are able to monetize this in a way that is hyper shady. Remember, if you look at Nancy Pelosi's trading record for stocks, she's somehow better than Warren Buffett at buying and selling stocks. There's a Nancy tracker out there where you can look at all the moves Pelosi makes because they have to disclose it. I, I, I don't understand why it isn't basic required for everybody out there to put their holdings in a trust and just use that. Let me give you an example, Buck. Most of my money after I sold out kick that is not in real estate, is in S&P 500 index funds. That is, I just buy the 500 largest companies in America. 90% of the time. The S&P 500 outperforms experts. I am not by and large buying and selling very many stocks. Now, there's no restriction on me buying and selling very many stocks in the first place, but I would say about 5% of my stock assets are in physical stocks that I control and about 95% is effectively in S&P 500 index funds. I don't understand why it isn't standard for everybody, Democrat, Republican, Independent, who is elected to Congress to put their assets, their 401k, their individual stocks, just put it into a index fund and say, I'm not going to buy and sell individual stocks while I'm a representative of the United States Congress. What am I missing here? To me, that seems like it should be standard for everyone out there. And if they're arguing otherwise, I think it's highly suspect for people to be trading hundreds of times in a year. And remember what happened during COVID because I haven't forgotten this. Remember when they got the briefings about how dangerous Covid was going to be and what was going to happen? And a ton of congressmen and women immediately sold all their stocks before the stock market started to decline. They got access to information that you and I didn't have access to about what was going to happen in terms of shutdowns. The stock market plummeted and a lot of congressmen and women sold before the stock market collapsed and then bought at bottoms and made a ton of money off information that's not public. I. I don't know what I'm missing here. This candidate, I think, is lying. I think she has likely benefited off inside information. But this is important when it comes to corruption. We don't just focus on corruption itself. We focus on the appearance of corruption because it's so toxic to public trust. How is there not a direct appearance of corruption when individual congressmen and women are making trades and destroying the greatest investors of our lifetimes in their results?

[Clay Travis]

Just, just so everybody understands in something like the, like National Defense Authorization act or one of those big omnibus or, you know, porculus or whatever you want to call it, these big bills that come out where they're just full of pork and they're full of all this spending. If you're on some committee and you know that a certain defense contractor, for example, is about to get correct, a 3 or 5 or $10 billion government contract, guess what? It's probably going to go up as a stock. Okay. Yes, I think we all understand that. And so if you are essentially now, I, you know, the rules, they've changed the rules so that technically there's like a little more reporting and stuff, but you're not barred from trading. And let's just, let's just take. Let's just be honest about this. Have you seen anybody get in trouble for insider trading from the United States Congress? No, I'm not aware of it right now.

[Buck Sexton]

I think, Buck, that they're not. You're not allowed to be prosecuted for it.

[Clay Travis]

I think it used to be the case they changed the rule. Let me, let me check on it. They made some. The stock act, they made some adjustment to it, but I think it's like, you can't be prosecuted for knowledge that comes from the course of your job, which is the whole point of that. Let me check on this one. I got to see what the rules are because this was. Clay. This has been a push for over a decade. People have been trying to, you know, trying to figure out why members of Congress are able to get so. So rich.

[Buck Sexton]

But larger issue, yes. On that, to me, it's just, it shouldn't be allowed. Minor issue or secondary issue as it pertains to this race. If you made $7 million in stock trades, you better have a good explanation for how that happened. And again, the husband may well be the reason. But to claim, oh, I don't know, I'd have to look into that. How out of touch are you if you can make $7 million and not recall whether or not it happened. Unless you're a billionaire and your stock price valuation is constantly going up and down. Again. All I'm saying is I'm not a Congress person. S&P 500 index funds a good option. Why would we not make that standard for anybody who's in elective office? Now, there are some complexities, usually blind trust. And this is getting into specifics. Let's say you own a company and that company is publicly traded. You can just say, hey, I'm not going to buy or sell stock or it's a blind trust. I'm not managing it. There are lots of ways to handle this that do not create this huge, this huge impression of impropriety. That to me would make a lot of sense.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I just would note, Clay. So two former members of the House of Representatives have been prosecuted and convicted for insider trading.

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[Clay Travis]

The stock act of 2012, that's what I referred to. So this has been going on for a while. So there is this Stock Act. It doesn't bar them from trading. Obviously there's disclosure requirements. But here's the thing, it's super hard because of the information that they're coming into contact with is of a political nature. It can be very like if you're going to invest in a big defense contractor, what's. How do you know that you don't just, you know, they get into this mosaic defense strategy for white collar criminals of like, well, did I do it because I thought of this bill that's coming up or. Because I love the fundamentals and I know I read the latest 10K. I mean, that's.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, also curious on whatever. I would be curious what the prosecution for insider trading is because those guys could have been prosecuted for actual insider trading that had nothing to do with Congress. Right. In other words, I believe the testimony that you hear behind closed doors is not allowed to be prosecutable for insider trading. You could still be prosecuted. If, for instance, you're out of office and your cousin calls you and he sits on the board of X Company and he says, hey, we're about to.

[Clay Travis]

That's what happened. Yeah. By the way, they actually were not prosecuted. This is a very important clarification. They were not prosecuted for anything under the Stock act or anything having to do with Congress. They were prosecuted for insider trading. Access they had before being in Congress. Yes, that's a different.

[Buck Sexton]

This is what I'm saying. Like, you basically get a free reign to insider trade at Congress.

[Clay Travis]

So my, my initial premise of like no one in Congress has ever that no one in Congress has ever been prosecuted for insider Congress, insider congressional information. That is true.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way. Some breaking news as we go to commercial break here. Buck. There has been a verdict reached in the second assassin attempt of President Trump in Florida. The West Palm beach assassin. I would imagine that he has been found guilty, but we will see what that result is. They're going to announce that shortly.

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