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Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show coming to you across the nation. Buck is in la, I am here in Nashville and we are taking you into what hopefully will be a Fantastic weekend for all of you, no matter what part of the country you are in. President of the United States at the Ryder Cup. I don't know if you follow the Ryder cup at all, Buck, but it is taking place in New York City area and we are getting smoked early by the Euros, which is not a good start. Competition between the European golfers and the American golfers. We are down 3:1. Some of the videos of Trump flying over the golf course of the usa Chance, it's pretty awesome. And so I know many of you are going to be following this throughout the course of the weekend. Farmingdale, New York. Buck is where Beth Page Black is hosting this. It's a public course. Beth Page, one of the great golf courses in America. And that is where Trump is going to be. Would not surprise me. We've got some audio of Trump speaking as he was boarding alongside of his granddaughter Kai, who we met Buck up at the Trump Course in New Jersey at Bedminster before she was a golfer who is a college athlete now at the University of Miami. So they flew together to go to watch the tournament. I bet a huge percentage of our audience is paying attention here. Buck, do you know anything about the Ryder Cup?
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No, but I want to know, has President Trump ever seen the famous Clay Travis swing? Because I've seen it on video.
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Yeah. He has lied and said that the Clay Travis golf swing is good, which is a sign that Trump is actually a really nice guy. He's a great man.
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He's a great guy.
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Yeah. In fact, maybe we could grab. I don't think we played it, but producer Greg I'm sure saw it. Scotty Scheffler, who is the best golfer in the world, talked about what Trump is like on his golf courses and hanging out around the golf community. What's amazing is all the Euro golfers love him, too. So this is going to be Trump in his element. That is where he is right now. Now, he broke a couple of news stories as he was about to board Marine One to begin the process of flying up there this weekend. In fact, he said that he thought they had potentially a deal in Gaza, which would obviously be a huge deal if we finally got a ceasefire nearly two years to the day after the October 7 terror attacks from Hamas. But President Trump, not surprisingly, the biggest story, and we're going to dive into this in detail and we will walk you through everything, is yesterday evening news broke that James Comey, former FBI director, had been had been indicted. And here is Trump saying Comey lied. He lied a lot this was just a little bit earlier as he was flying to the Ryder Cup. Cut to.
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This about justice. He lied. He lied a lot. But this was a very important thing. This was. He could have said, well, maybe or I don't remember. He didn't say that. He gave a very specific answer and then he verified it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that Comey has is he got caught lying and he was very strong. It's not like well, maybe or I don't remember or he gave a very specific answer because it was a very powerful question, a very important question. And when he gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
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Okay, that's cut to here's cut 4. Buck of Trump again saying this is not a hard case. He lied. He didn't think he was going to get caught. Cut four.
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It's a pretty easy case because look, he lied. You saw my truth today. He lied. It was, yes. No, he didn't say. Well, in my opinion he didn't do a lot of things that maybe he should have, but I don't think he could because he lied. That was a very important question that he was asked and he wanted to be specific, but he didn't. The only thing that happened to him, he didn't think he'd get caught. That was a very important answer and it was very, for him, it was a very good answer if he didn't get caught, but he got caught lying to Congress.
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Okay, so charges now from Northern Virginia. This is a very blue area. We talked about this some yesterday, Alexandria area, two different charges brought and indicted against Comey by the grand jury. Buck, you covered this Russia mess way more than me. What's your reaction?
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Well, I think for a lot of people the sense is finally something has been done, finally there could be, and I want to emphasize, could there could be accountability for the. This is more than just the lies that Comey told because the lies were in the service of the Russia collusion hoax. So the lies that Comey told and as Trump was hammering there, these are material lies. Right? These are lies that have meaning and significance. It's not oh, in a three hour long FBI sit down, which as Clay has told you, never without a lawyer. Never without a lawyer. That is the most. Whenever you're talking to the FBI in the three hour long sit down, you forgot what you had for breakfast last week that you would be able to argue even if it was untrue or incorrect, it's immaterial in this case. Trump has made it clear it is quite material. It is an important issue of fact that he was lying about and the lie was part of obstructing justice, which is why that charge has also come to the forefront. But now here's where we get to analyze what comes next of it. So on the one hand, I think, Clay, this, this needed to happen because there was a clear two tiered system of justice at work. And Comey, I might add, has been a pioneer or on the forefront of that. And a lot of people are pointing out, myself included, that Comey was far and away the guy who wanted Martha Stewart prosecuted for what was really a he said, she said on a phone call with the broker about conduct that was not actually criminal. She did not actually do anything illegal other than she said that they did, that he did. You know, she did say she was going to sell or whatever it was. There were some dispute over what was said on that phone call. And the broker, I think with the broker it was, we'll say what we want you to say and you get to walk clean and free. Right? That's easy. So people realize that Comey has been using its, you know, it's US code 1001 is the lying to the FBI statute or it's really lying to federal agents, but the FBI is the one that uses it the most. This is something that he's been a big proponent of. So it feels like what's good for the goose is good for the gander. That's part one of it. The other thing is, as we love to say on the show, the process is the punishment. And that's important to keep in mind here, the process is part of accountability. The decision to prosecute is itself a punishment, which is why prosecutors have such a fearsome level of power in this country. Because the decision to prosecute is usually a decision to destroy. Even if you're innocent, going to cost you a ton of money, it's going to hurt your reputation, all that stuff. But now, Clay, we can get into. And I know, I know you're going to have strong thoughts on this one. You alluded to this. It's in Northern Virginia. It's at the judge is, I think an Obama appointee. That's correct, right?
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Yes.
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Obama appointee, Judge Northern Virginia, a roughly 80% Democrat jurisdiction. And all it takes is one purple haired resistance cat lady or guy who works at the Commerce Department or whatever to say, I'm just not letting anybody who goes after Trump go to prison. I don't care what for. And at worst, you get, you're at either a hung jury or an acquittal. So I want everyone's expectations to be kept in line here. I think it's the right move because it's what's true and what the statutes require. But I don't know if we're going to get to a conviction.
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I'm impressed that they got a grand jury indictment. They got two of them. They reportedly brought three. One was struck down and not given the indictment. Two of the three were. But what Buck just hit is the key. I mean this is what I've been saying and I understand people get upset that I even talk about it. We're playing with a rigged justice system. By being required to get indictments in D.C. area cases that are predicated on blue strongholds, Democrats will indict Republicans for anything. We have a 95, 5 in Washington D.C. to Buck's point, it's probably 80, 20, 75, 25 in Northern Virginia. And so I think there's going to be at least one juror who refuses to convict no matter what the evidence shows. It wouldn't shock me Buck, if this Obama appointed judge finds a reason to toss these indictments. Um, I, I think you have to prepare yourself for the fact that you are not on an even playing field. From a sports analogy, you're starting off and the scoreboards already got you down 21 points before you even snap the ball. And I, I think this is the right result. I give credit to the prosecutors. The son in law of Comey was in the Northern district of Virginia. Did you see this? He resigned. The son in law is inside of the office. I mean this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Now I'm sure they tried to wall him off I would think from being involved in investigating his father in law. But the fact that this guy is employed there is a sign of how deep the swamp is. Wasn't it Maureen Comey? He's employed in New York in the most important federal district there.
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These people who messed up the, the.
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Diddy case and then she got forced out and now I think she's suing or something like that. These people, man, they rigged this system in so many different ways to have their allies. And here is what I've said for a long time you've been on this but I think the average person has just become aware of it. Violent crime is relatively easy to prosecute in theory. If you run up to somebody with a gun and you rob them, it's pretty self evident that a crime happened If a dead body shows up with bullet holes and.
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And.
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Or stab wounds or something is a pretty good sign that a murder happened. Where these prosecutors have all their power is, I guarantee you, everyone listening out there who thinks that they have led an upstanding life and never done anything wrong. If a federal prosecutor decided to investigate you and spent a year going through every tax return you've ever filed and spent a year asking you to sit down for every interview and examined every property transfer you've ever been involved in, ever employment contract you've ever signed, they would find a way to prosecute you. And that is where the will and the power of the state has been marshaled. It was used against Trump, and now we'll see if Comey can be convicted of crimes. But spare me all the hand wringing. We told you this when they crossed the Rubicon and indicted Trump in New York, in Georgia, in Florida, and in D.C. the gloves were officially off. All of that came at the direct behest of Joe Biden. So spare me the oh, my goodness, our republic is now being challenged. If you didn't say a word when.
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They came after Trump, it's very straightforward for me. Did he break the law? And you know what's interesting is that there used to be this presumption I think of, oh, well, because of the politics involved, maybe we let this one slide. I'm not saying I agree with that presumption. I'm just saying, oh, the former FBI director, it's bad. It's a bad look for all of us. If you were to go after somebody like that. And then they went after a former president and current president now four times with absolute garbage prosecutions. So they crossed the Rubicon over and over. I mean, the Rubicon doesn't even exist anymore. They've erased the Rubicon, all right? They pushed so that there's no more political question overriding a legal question. And in fact, I would argue they took it even further where they fabricated a legal issue that for in the service of politics. What I'm saying here, Clay, is if Comey broke the law, the law is the law. He presided over plenty of prosecutions. Remember, he was a U.S. attorney previously, before he was at the FBI. He's really a lawyer. He's not like a G man FBI guy for his career, he was a lawyer and a very politically, you know, maneuverable one in the Justice Department, and then eventually found himself all the way at the head of the FBI. He sent plenty of people to prison for exactly this, lying in the course of an investigation. And he would have sent Donald Trump to prison for heaven knows what. He was the one who orchestrated. And we played that audio for everybody yesterday. The destruction and prosecution. Actually, you know, the career destruction and prosecution of General Michael Flynn. And he thinks it's funny. So, you know what? I think this is funny. I think Comey should have to lawyer up. I think it's a fair prosecution based upon the facts presented in the case. And I think that we now have to have one system of justice for all of us to operate under. And, you know, they're the ones that pushed into the Lavrenti Beria category. You know, the old head of the nkvd, which people think of as the kgb, but it was called the nkvd who said, you show me the man, I'll show you the crime. They did that to Trump. They. They fabricated crimes.
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This is.
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Comey broke the law. Let's see what happens.
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Yeah, and look, somebody broke the law for sure. Because if you compare, and if you want to get into the nitty gritty, and maybe we will a bit, if you compare the testimony, I think it was Senator Ted Cruz who really kind of went at the details here. If you compare the testimony relating to Russia collusion about whether or not there was any instruction to leak information, one, I think it was McCabe testified, yes, there was an instruction to leak information. And then Comey says, no, there was no instruction. Well, both can't be telling the truth. So someone is lying, and we know there was a leak. So how someone is lying? Someone is. Someone broke the law.
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Either one of them spending six months in a, you know, minimum security federal federal prison, or federal camp, as I think they call them, sometimes seems like it could. It seems like it could be a fair outcome. Will it happen? I think that's different. That's not very likely, but we'll see. But there also could be other indictments, which we should talk about here in a second. We'll get to that. But it's big news. Comey indicted, finally. He's such. He's such a punk. Honestly, I really. You know, the emailer yesterday was like, Buck gets fired up about Comey because, Clay, I was following the Russia collusion thing very, very closely, and the President was retweeting a lot of my assessments of what was going on with the Russia collusion. And Comey was an abs. Absolute dirtbag over the whole thing. All right, look, a weekend from now, not this Saturday, but next Sunday, October 5th, you're likely to see remarkable display of humanity. You'll see Israeli flags on full display in your community, and it's not too late for you to join them. This is a movement of support for the people of Israel called Flags of Fellowship, organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The date is next Sunday, October 5th, just 10 days away. Millions of Americans across our nation will plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the victims of the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7, two years ago in Israel. And now you can be a part of this movement too. To get more information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the fellowship online@ifcj.org that's ifcj.org making.
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Into some of this, shall we? So President Trump spoke about a few things this morning. Talking to reporters, we heard him say that, you know, Comey lied, lied, lied. There's a lot of that few other things that he got into as well. For example, on the shutdown issue, I want to talk about this. Is the government going to shut down? Probably not. If it does shut down, it won't be shut down for very long. Generally, these shutdown talks end up being something along the lines of a political food fight and then there's some kind of agreement last minute and they keep the government going. Maybe this time is different, but this morning Trump spoke to reporters about it. This is cut one, and I think everybody should hear what Democrats are drawing a hard line in the sand on play one. Everything's going good. We're respected by every nation in the world. And you know what happens? The Democrats want to shut it down. And they want to shut it down because they want to give billions, ultimately trillions of dollars to illegal migrants, people that came into our country illegally. Some of those people are criminals, but they came into our country illegally and they want to give them the essential over years, trillions of dollars. And our people aren't going to stand for it. They also want to have open borders. They want to have men and women sports, they want to have transgender for everybody. These people are crazy, the Democrats. So if it has to shut down, it'll have to sh down. But they're the ones that are shutting down. Clay, this is a very important issue because this is where Democrats, I think, once again, are going to be exposed. The issue that he's talking about here has to do with the funding of Obamacare. Obamacare subsidies health care in general and how much money is going to illegal immigrants who are not. We were promised, if everyone recalls, not supposed to get any federal funding at all for healthcare, because then it's quite clear this would be us providing healthcare to the rest of the world. I mean, at that point, it should just be, you want to fly here from Bangladesh, you want to fly here from Bolivia, and just countries that start with B, we'll get, you know, you'll get your heart, you'll get your heart transplant, you'll get whatever you need here and the taxpayers in the hook for it. Meanwhile, Americans have seen their health care costs. Your premiums have doubled and your. And your care is actually no better. If anything, it has gotten worse. Obamacare is a straight up failure, but the Democrats want. It's a failure at everything other than telling people they are covered as a ruse to get them to subsidize everybody else's health care while theirs gets more expensive and worse. And so there's Affordable Care act subsidies set to expire at the end of this year. And Republicans are saying that, look, we gotta look at where this money's actually going. The more people look at this and pay attention, Clay, the more they'll see if you feel like you're paying too much, everyone for mortgages, for gas, for food, for whatever, everything's gotten more expensive for your own healthcare. Oh, you're subsidizing millions of illegals as well, by the way. And when you look at this, when you dig into the numbers, that becomes even more clear.
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Even no matter what your politics are, health care is broken. And Obamacare broke health care worse than it was already broken. And I've got so many thoughts on this. We've talked about it. You just had a baby, Buck. Your wife Carrie did. This is when I was just done with health care. When we were having our first son. I wanted to know what it was going to cost, as one does to have a. To have a baby. And we went around and toured, as probably many of you have done, a variety of different places. You know, delivery hospitals, probably not the correct phrase for it, but the places where you go to have a baby, this is one of the things that you could choose, right? You're not. It's not emergency room care. It's not, oh, My goodness, we got to get in an ambulance. It is okay. We know the baby's coming. Let's go. We'll go tour all of these different hospitals and we'll all check out and my wife's going to pick out where she wants to go at every one of them. I said, what is the baby going to cost? None of them could tell me. They don't compete at all on price. They compete on bamboo floors and wi fi and what the reception area is going to be like and what kind of meals they have, but they don't tell you what any of it cost. How many other things in life do you have where you, you don't go to buy a car and go tour a car lot and say, okay, well, what's the Rolls Royce cost? But maybe I want to get a used SUV instead of the Rolls Royce. To me, the reason why healthcare is broken is because there's almost no market based component to it. Even is healthcare by choice, not healthcare by emergency. So that's me on the soapbox. And really that was the first time where I just couldn't get over the fact that none of these hospitals could give me any idea what having a baby was gonna cost there, because I would have potentially. I'm not gonna risk my family's health over it. But if one of them, if they're otherwise relatively equal and one of them is gonna cost me $10,000 more than another, then I would save the $10,000, right? They couldn't tell me. And the reason they couldn't tell me is because insurance is so broken, they have no idea and it might cost more or less. Here's another story for you on that front, Buck. As dads probably out there may well nod along. I am not the best at getting our kids in for any health care appointment. I often screw things up. I can't remember where my insurance card is. We had two kids get strep throat. Happens. You're going to find this out, Buck. When you get multiple kids, one kid gets sick. Basically it just runs through the whole family. Everybody ends up getting sick. So we had simultaneously two different kids that ended up with strep throat. My wife took the first kid, went to the clinic, Vanderbilt University walk in clinic, sponsored whatever it is, relatively close to our home. Got the strep throat diagnosis, got the treatment. A day or two later, another kid comes down with it. Dad's now in charge. I so she presented accurately, as moms often do. Here is our insurance card. Here are all the details associated with what you need in order to treat this child. I showed up, I'm like, I, I don't know where my healthcare card is. I'm not sure exactly, you know, who our healthcare provider is. I am frankly, like many dads, a moron on all this stuff. Took him in. He also has strep throat, gave him the test, we got billed and my wife could gives you the exact dollar specifics on this. Somehow I was classified as without health insurance at Vanderbilt because I was a moron. And I couldn't figure out where the health insurance card is and I couldn't even figure out who our health insurer was. It cost nothing virtually, Buck. My wife got the bill, it was like 20 bucks. The kid with health insurance cost hundreds of dollars. And my wife said, wait a minute, these are within the same day, basically within a couple of days of each other, within 48 hours trips to the exact same clinic. My husband went in, couldn't remember where his healthcare card was. Basically had to pay nothing. We're having to pay hundreds of dollars for this other visit. How is that possible? She got on the phone with the hospital insurance adjuster, everybody else. Eventually the hospital said, yeah, when you don't have health insurance, we don't charge you very much for health care. But she said, well, wait a minute, that means that you're overcharging everybody who does have health insurance a massive amount to subsidize the people without health insurance. And they were like, yeah, that's just what we do here. So you're actually better off in this particular location being a moron like I was and just going in and basically saying you don't have health insurance and you pay like $20 or you pay hundreds of dollars if you actually have health insurance. The market is broken.
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Well, you, you say it's broken, it's broken. If you believe that it should be a market. It's functioning the way that the Democrats want it to insofar as you're paying for everybody else, including illegals, I might add, illegals who use emergency rooms as frontline day to day medical care cannot be turned away and will not be charged. Will not be charged.
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It's why you have to wait hours. If you ever go to an emergency room and you actually have an emergency, you're probably going to sit there forever. And anyway, I think that's broken also, Buck. Nobody cares about government shutdowns anymore. We're just over it. I'm sorry. The idea that they tried, the political media tries to gin up, oh, this is a Huge story. Oh, my goodness. Spoiler alert. Here's how it's going to end. We're going to go further in debt and they're going to eventually reach a conclusion.
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So here's one little interesting addition to the usual shutdown talk. One is if Democrats find themselves in a place where the people of this country figure out that this really is about just a massive slush fund, that is our health care system that is going to. They say it doesn't go to illegals. It does. A lot of it does go to illegals, by the way. That's. That's one part of this. Another part of this, though, Clay, is that there may be layoffs. If the government shuts down after October 1st, that may be a moment of opportunity to do more of the federal government cuts that the administration has wanted to do all along. In essence, one of the problems that they've run into in the post doge advisory era is if Congress has funded these jobs, can they still get rid of these jobs? If Congress has said no, we're funding the following government jobs. Can the executive branch, you know, this has been a back and forth and they're, you know, the courts are involved. Well, if the money runs out for the job, why can't the executive branch cut the. Cut the job? Because there's no money for the job anymore. Right? That. So there is this possibility that it will open up, I think a, a jobs cutting moment in time for the federal bureaucracy, which, which could I think be interesting as well. But overall, this is once again going to result in the government will. Will be fun. Here you go. This is Trump yesterday said this, this is cut 33. He's making it very clear what he thinks is at the, at the core of the issue or at the core of the shutdown fight right now. Play 33. Well, this is all caused by the Democrats. They asked us to do something that's totally unreasonable. They never change. They want to give money away to illegals, illeg people that entered our country illegally. They want to give a massive federal money. And we don't want to do that because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back. Right now we have absolutely perfect borders like you haven't seen in many years. Even better than the. I had great borders during my four years, but these borders are stone cold flows. You can only come into our country legally now. But the Democrats want to give it all away. They want to also. They want to open up the borders. Take a look at that big thing. They want to open Borders again, after what we're going through now, getting rid of prisoners, getting rid of all of these people, dropped out from mental institutions, drug dealers, drug addicts, everything that they're putting everybody into our country, it's all ended now. But this is what Schumer wants. This is what the Democrats want. Clay, one difference as well in the shutdown debate, nobody on the other side can match Trump when it comes to the megaphone. And so he's able to get, he's pounding these messages in a way that Chuck Schumer is not able to counter.
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I think that's true. And again, I just come back to. I don't think anybody cares. The overall shutdown dynamic. Eventually there is going to be some form of resolution. I don't, I usually. You're the cynic here. I'll be the cynic. Cynic. And we're going to end up spending way more money than we should. And, and they're just going to keep right on rolling along.
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Well, that, that is all. The government's going to keep spending too much money. That's all for sure. And that's baked into it. And everyone's not all of a sudden going to wake up and be like, I too am with Rand Paul and we should go to pre Covid spending. It would be nice. That's not going to happen. But this is a, you know, there's the highlighting of these issues where people can. Clay, if between now and September 1st, a lot of Americans figure out that the Democrats are hell bent on keeping funding for illegal health care for illegals to get health care. We got an election in a year. You know, I think that these things can be important.
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They're totally wrong on, on this. And, and look, I think Trump is.
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Forcing them to, to, to protect, to defend issues where they're getting hammered, is the point.
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Yeah. And again, I think it just comes back to. I think 100% of Americans believe that health care is 100% broken in this country. And so the idea that we are spending any money on non Americans is a really difficult argument. See, this is, this is where you.
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And I see this a little differently. I think people have no idea when you say it's broken. Yeah, that's true. But it's like saying our immigration system is broken. The Democrats have broken it for a reason on purpose to do things. And so people need to understand, like you just laid out what you just talked about, Clay, where the, you can't find out the pricing and everything else. Democrats like Schumer want that. So that 10 million plus illegals, 30 million that are here in the country have their health care paid for?
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Well, yes. I just think they don't understand basic economics. They think that everything should be free. And honestly, the fact that I could, I could do weeks on this because how about the idea that we've created this idea that health care should be paid for by employers?
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Well that doesn't even get sense.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. One of the big elections that is going to be determined in this November cycle is who's gonna be the governor of New Jersey. The Garden State, a place near and dear to my heart. As a lifelong New Yorker, it's like our close cousin next door. I feel like I. I'm like an honorary New Jersey and in so many ways. And we've got. We've got the man who is trying to make sure that it does not fall deep into communist hands. Jack Cittarelli is with us now. He is the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey. Jack, appreciate you being with us.
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C
Thank you for the time, guys. Looking forward to it.
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Look, you had a great run back in 2021, just a few points from beating Phil Murphy. And, you know, we were talking about it then. We were giving you the high five. I, I know, I know it was too much to ask in that cycle to pull it off, but you came very close. It was a, it was a, A heroic finish nonetheless, this time around. Mr. Jack, I'm seeing polls with you dead even, maybe even a couple points ahead. Can you pull it off? What need. What do we need to know about this race?
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C
That it's a dead heat right now, and that's really good news for Republican. I mean, we are the minority party in this state, but we're gonna continue to get out there or the last 39 days, make it happen. And when you see Democratic mayors across the state endorsing my candidacy, I think it only reaffirms that people across the state have had it with Phil Murphy's sale policies and they know that my opponent is Murphy 2.0.
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What should people who want you to win, We've got a big audience all over New Jersey. What should they know to do? What should they know about when early voting starts? How to donate? Give us your pitch right now. You said, I think 39 days out. What needs to happen in the next 39 days? What should people listening to us right now do to support you?
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C
The vote by mail ballots have already been mailed. They went out last week. So if you're a vote by mail it, vote by mail ballot voter. We want you to get that in. There'll be nine days of early voting leading up to election day and then of course, Tuesday the 4th. But what differentiates me from my opponent is Cheddar Ellis have been here for 100 years and three generations of Chedorelli have all been business owners and created jobs right here in New Jersey. My opponent hasn't been here all that long and she spent half the time she's been here in the Congress. And during that time she tripled her net worth and broke federal law on stock trades and stock reporting for Congress people.
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Now, what would you. Let's, let's. Before we get into what she would do other than apparently make a lot of money in the stock market on some defense stocks that she doesn't remember. You know, it's 7 million here, 7 million there. I mean, that's.
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That seems like it's when Charlemagne the God to Buck's Point can ask her, how did you make $7 million? And she says, I don't know, basically. Or she had no idea how she made it. I think that's pretty tough for most New Jerseyans out there to say, ah, you know, I think I'd know If I made $7 million.
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C
It's a disqualifier. Who wouldn't know if their net worth had tripled in such a short period of time? Who wouldn't know where an additional $7 million came from? Here's what we do know. She broke federal law and had to pay fines for it as a congressperson. Well, here's what else we know. The New York Times reports that while she was sitting on the House Armed Services Committee, she was trading defense stocks. I mean, this really calls into question her character, as does the stunning revelation of yesterday that she didn't participate in the graduation ceremonies at the Naval Academy back in 1994.
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Yeah, we saw that story about the Naval Academy and we talked about it yesterday with our friend Ryan Gardusky. What is that story? I think it was from 1994. And why does it matter? And to you, how does it connect to her today?
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C
She's built her entire political brand around the fact that she attended the Naval Academy, but she hasn't been transparent with us. The Naval Academy punished her and we believe it's for lying. And, and so she did not get to participate in her graduation ceremonies. She can clear this all up by approving the release of her disciplinary records. She's not doing that. And I think that tells us a whole lot. And for her to say that, what she's been saying out there in the public, I think it's code for having lied to the investigators. Quite frankly, she's saying that she covered for her friends who did cheat. I think that's code for lying to investigators.
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Now we got a lot of W O R, which is our New York City based affiliate. Obviously that signal is Huge all across, particularly the northern half of the Garden. It reaches well beyond that. We have a lot of listeners who are commuters into New York City who listen on W or Jack. And so they're very interested to know what are you going to do if you become governor to make what is a. I'm from, I'm from Manhattan. So we like to make, you know, the occasional give a little ribbing to New Jersey. But I love New Jersey. It is a great state, beautiful state, a lot of things going for it. What are you going to do to take New Jersey to the next level? Either problems to fix or just things to focus on in the future? If you are in fact able to pull off this, this very, very photo finish governor's race, we are going to pull it off.
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C
And there's a number of things we're going to do, including those things on day one. Here's one thing I'm never going to do is lie to the people of New Jersey. This laughable, illegitimate, not feasible plan that she's put forth to declare a state of emergency to freeze our electricity rates. Why would we want to freeze them at an all time high? We want to lower them. I could do that on day one by pulling out of the regional Greenhouse Gas initiative. This is a carbon tax policy that's been in place since Murphy took office. The air is no cleaner. Electricity has skyrocketed and ratepayer dollars are going to other states. I could save half a billion dollars a year in ratepayers dollars, homeowners, tenants and businesses. We need to get our electricity rates down. Also on day one, I'll end the immigrant trust directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities and we will not be a sanctuary state. Also on day one, I'll give us an attorney general that supports both police and parents. The current attorney general does not.
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You lost, as we said, very close to race in 2021. Trump lost a very close race in New Jersey. I think it came down to basically five points. The Trump team said, hey, if we had had the money Kamala had, we could have poured it in. We might have been able to win New Jersey. Why is New Jersey moving red? And why do you think now is the time when you're going to kick the door down and win this, this race here in 39 days?
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It's all because Phil Murphy's policies have failed across the board. Taxes up every year since he took office. Spending up 70%. When he took over, the state budget was 36 billion. It's now 59 billion 70% increase housing. We've got an overdevelopment crisis going on in our suburban communities. Public education, we slipped from 2 to 12 on the national report card with all the learning loss in the post pandemic world because he shut down the schools for two years. Law enforcement, nonviolent crime has spiked. Break ins, car thefts, flash mobs on the Jersey shore and at our malls.
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Why?
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Because his attorney general's handcuffed our local police. These are the issues and they represent policy failures of the past seven plus years. And my opponent has endorsed every one of these policies. In fact, in some cases, like the wind farms, she's doubled down.
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It's remarkable to see how. I think there was a clip already circulating, Jack, of Mikey Sheryl saying your opponent that she can't even commit to not raising taxes on the middle class like she's. Tax raises are on the table all across the board from what I can understand, which for your, your state is already pretty heavily taxed state from what I understand. I mean I was living in New York City where it's completely insane, but New Jersey taxes under Murphy have been rough.
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This was an astonishing moment at the debate. She's been lyingly, lying blatantly about me raising the sales tax to 10%. And yet at the debate when I was asked, I said the sales tax is not going to be increased. I will lower property taxes, I will lower income taxes. I gave specific ways on how I'm going to do that in a very fiscally responsible way. They then asked her the same question and she said I'm not going to commit to anything. So wait a second, you're lying about me raising taxes. And then when you're asked whether or not you're raised taxes, your answer is I'm not going to commit to anything.
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But when I travel around and I know this has been an issue in New Jersey too, it doesn't matter where you're from. A lot of people see men and women's sports as a clarifying, crystallizing issue. I know it's a big point down in Virginia, but a lot of moms and dads in New Jersey are fed up with the cultural ridiculousness of the Democrat party. Do you feel that even having accelerated since you last ran in 2021, parents.
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Are very upset about a number of these far left liberal policies. Policy. 5756 school districts keeping secrets from parents. We're to stop that on day one. Our chair, our children are best off when our school districts and parents work in partnership, biological boys playing in girls sports. That's one of those 80, 20 issues in New Jersey. More than eight out of 10 people don't agree with that. And so these are the policies, the LGBTQ curriculum in our public schools. My opponent has said she will not let parents opt their kids out of that lesson. I mean, these are 8020 issues. But again, she's not from New Jersey. She's out of touch, she's tone deaf. It's just another reason why we're going to win this race.
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Now, what is the. To the degree you can speak to this, I know you got a big state, millions and millions of residents, but some of the, the. What's the profile would you say of the late breaking voter at this point? Is it independents that are going to be the difference maker? Is it Democrats defecting from the high taxes and some of the other policy matters we've talked about? Who's going to be the deciding cohort in your home state if in fact we're able to see you get across the finish line with a W?
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For sure. Moderate Democrats and unaffiliated slash independent voters, the ones that are still undecided. And I really do believe that after eight years of Phil Murphy's policies and us going around the state the way we do, offering specific, responsible, thoughtful proposals on how to fix New Jersey, at the end of the day, we're going to win this race.
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Are you. Here's the final question for you, Jack. This is important and you may want to dodge it. Are you a Yankees, Mets guy? Are you a Jets Giants guy? Who are your teams? Because I know there are a lot of people out there and the Ryder Cup's going on. I even said to my team, I'm a little bit surprised he's not there with the President right now rooting on Team usa because I bet there's a lot of New Jersey guys and gals that are out at, at the golf course right now as well.
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Well, I'm a Yankees guy and they frustrate us a whole lot over the summer. But this veterans team is rising to the occasion when it counts most. And here we are with only three games left and they're tied for first. Go Yankees.
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There you go, Governor, I hope. Good luck. We're going to help put you in the governor's office if everybody out there listening right now gets their votes in and works as hard as they can for you one last time here as you go to break. Like, where should people go if they want to offer you support, Jack?
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4Nj.Com and that's the number 4 Jack4nj.com I greatly appreciate that.
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Good luck, sir. That is Jack.
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Bring home the W. Jack, we need.
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The dub every day.
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We're happy to have you on anytime down the stretch run here. We can help out. But again, everybody check that out. Get your votes in. New Jersey is in play and Jack Cittarelli needs to get the win for all of you. All right, speaking of getting the win, I just got an email. Buck, you got it too. One of our guys out there said, hey, thanks for talking up Good Ranchers. I'm on my fourth box and I absolutely love them. Just came in from the vip. A lot of different things coming in from the vip. I'll hit a few of those here in the next segment as we try to react to a lot of what you guys are saying on Friday. But I love Good Ranchers because I've gotten to know Ben and Corley, the founders of Good Ranchers. They got four young kids and they wanted to feed their family healthy foods. Ben can hit a golf ball pretty good himself too. I've been out on the course with him. He could stripe it pretty well and.
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Both are great reads. We go now down. I think he may be up north. I'm not sure exactly where he is, but he's going to be probably, almost certainly, in my always humble opinion, the next governor of the great state of Florida. He is Byron Donalds. He joins us now. The last time you came on with us, Congressman, and it was to discuss your incredible history as a fantastic cracker barrel waiter, which people will well remember. I gotta ask you a question Buck was asking me. I know you're a big sports fan. President Trump is at the Ryder Cup. Can you golf? Are you any good at golf at all? Do you even attempt it? I have an awful golf shot. I love pretty much every sport, but I don't know. Are you paying attention to the Ryder Cup? Have you gotten out on the golf course? How would you assess your game?
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I shank and drink transfusions. I enjoy myself, actually. I just don't really. Can't count the strokes.
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B
Yeah. Well, join the club. So you are with us now. We got a potential shutdown going on in the, in the Congress. We'll get to that. But I wanted to start with this because Buck now lives in Miami. He's potentially going to be your constituent. I've got a place in North Florida. I love it. And, and the culture of Florida. You're in South Florida. You got into this thing because you looked around and just said, man, we're making a lot of bad decisions. I saw the story about Trump potentially getting his presidential library in Miami and I thought about you in that context because you, I think are representative of the transformation that we have seen in the state of Florida over the last decade. For people who don't know, I think maybe sharing your story of how you ended up doing what you're doing and why you want to be the next governor of Florida would be a good jumping off point. Using that library as a, as a Point of demarcation.
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Well, I mean, before 2010, I was a registered Democrat. I got an. I started getting interested in politics through the 2008 financial collapse. My career was financial services. That's where my career started. And I was. I had to do research for my company in order to keep one of our investors in the company came across Congress, and I was like, what the hell is this mess? These people thought, know what they're talking about. They actually. Actually can sound quite dumb. And I just started paying attention to politics, started reading articles, started reading about books on political philosophy. Found out I was actually quite conservative. And so, you know, when it was. When I was, you know, in the Tea Party movement, locally in Naples, Florida, in the Tea Party movement, and I'm getting ready for the midterm elections. I looked at my voter registration. I was like, why am I still registered like a Democrat? I don't think like one. I'm very conservative. So I switch parties after that. Locally, I got asked to run for office. Did not think that was ever going to be on my personal bingo card of what I was going to do with my life. And so then what I decided to do was jump in and see what happened. I was an activist out of my local Tea Party area, worked hard, really just was trying to do the best to represent conservative values as I believe them and as I. I decided to follow the conservative movement. And then before you know it, I'm in the statehouse. Then. Then I got elected to Congress. And here we go.
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And now you're running for governor in my home state of Florida, Congress. And Donald, which has honestly been on. On a hot streak. It's been going very well. I've been very pleased with the governance in my state since I moved a few. A few years ago. What are some of the top things that you would want to do if you become governor? I have to ask, because I'm curious for me, but we also have a huge Florida audience. You know, 21 million people live in the great state of Florida, so it's. It's a substantial. It's a big gig. It's a big job.
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C
Well, first is, you know, when it comes to the cost of living in Florida, insurance, we, you know, the governor has done some great work, and Governor DeSantis has done a great job as our governor, but we still have more work to do in trying to stabilize our insurance market for Floridians, when it comes to property taxes, our homeowners need reform. That's just the way it is. They need a Reform. They need a relief from local property taxes. When it comes to the future of our economy, we're going to be the financial capital of the world in a decade. We're going to bring a lot of manufacturing and defense and aerospace and tech companies and jobs to our state because Cape Canaveral is doing all of the launches. But I'll tell you, the biggest question I get, no matter where I am in Florida, is, are you going to keep us going on the conservative trajectory that we're on? Are we going to continue to be the free state of Florida? And my answer to the people of Florida is a resounding yes. I'm a conservative out of the Tea Party movement. I'm a House Freedom Caucus member. I have one of the most conservative voting records in the country and also in the state of Florida. And whether it's law and order, whether it's backing our police, making sure woke and DEI is not in our schools, indoctrinated our kids, having common sense economic policies that allow people to just, you know, chase their dreams here in Florida. That's what I'm about. That's where the state is going to continue to be. And we're just going to take Florida to a whole nother level.
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We're talking to Byron, Donald's next governor of the state of Florida. Byron, you're a dad like both of us are. And I know you knew Charlie Kirk well. Where were you when you heard about the assassination? What was your relationship like with Charlie, and what do you think the legacy of his activism should be as we all go forward?
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C
I was in my office in Washington. I was actually in the middle of a meeting. My. My comms director called me out, which he almost never does. So I would. I was like, oh, what's happening? And, you know, he showed me the video, and honestly, I just doubled over. I doubled over. It was. It was painful to watch. And, you know, you try to do your best to kind of stay on track and take care of your business. And then the news started coming across that Charlie had died from that assassin's bullet. He was special, man. He's one of one. I know we were planning on doing, like, campus tours throughout Florida over the next year. Something that we had had conversations about. His team and my team were trying to work through. But on a broader level, Carlie Kirk, he has changed the political fabric in this country for conservatism, and he did it facing his dream of bringing young people into the political debate of what conservative policy actually is, what Western civilization is, how Great. That is. And why Judeo Christian values are the value set that allow people to thrive and be successful. And I don't think we would be in the position we are right now, not just the Republican Party, but the conservative movement without Charlie Kirk, he's going to be missed and he's not going to be replaced.
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Speaking of Congressman Donalds out of Florida and Congressman, I did want to get you to weigh in on this, if I could. We tend to take a somewhat cynical view, I think, of shutdown negotiations. Can you just give us some insight onto, onto this whole situation? What's, if there's anything that's important that's at issue as you see it, what is it and where is all this going?
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C
The way I look at it, Chuck Schumer doesn't want to look like he's being bullied. I'm just telling you straight. When Chuck Schumer worked with President Trump to keep the government open, he took a lot of grief from the radicals in his party. And you know, I think if the government shuts down, it's because he is going to bend the knee to the radicals in the Democrat Party. I mean, look, Donald Trump has delivered on the agenda that he prom promised the American people. The Democrats were soundly rejected last November. Elections do have consequences. And so if Chuck Schumer wants to shut down the government and have a Schumer shutdown, it's simply because he wants the radical left policies that the American people rejected to be funded by Donald Trump and executed by Donald Trump. And that's not going to happen, period. Everybody knows it.
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We're talking about Donald's, you're a big sports fan. You're running for governor of Florida next week. I know it's a week out. Miami is traveling to Florida State. Your Seminoles have bounced back after a disastrous game. And I got to tell you, I think the last time we had you on, I was telling you, I went to the Alabama Florida State game. People were phenomenal. So great. The stadium has been renovated. It looks spectacular. What is going to happen when those two great Florida college dynasties historically go head to head next Saturday?
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The no, you already know what's going to happen Florida State. I was actually asked in a room in Miami and I said, I'm taking the Knowles plus five and a half. I said, that's my own personal line. I have no idea what Vegas has the line at. But I got the Knowles. I got the Knowles by five and a half. That's what I got.
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You, what do you call this?
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Very well, with prize picks. I've hit three different picks in the first four weeks. These are Thursday. NFL, I'm on fire. I would have been happy for that. For the full season, in fact. By the way, Congressman, your team is playing tonight in Charlottesville. I don't know what part of the country you're in right now, but FSU is on the road.
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I'm in Tampa right now.
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So do you plan events around so you can try to be able to watch games? I mean, I hear from different guys that they try to do that. I'm curious. If you look at the schedule and you're like, hey, maybe we can do that in the morning, maybe we could do that in the evening. Do you try to build around a little bit so you can keep an eye on games?
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Nah, you just stay focused, man. The schedule is set. We just, we run the gauntlet and do what we need to do. I love my Knowles. I love sports in general, but not in this time period. Running for governor is an all hands on deck situation. So I'll either catch the highlights or, you know, if I'm really blessed, what will happen is. And this is what happened with the Alabama Florida State game. I was keynoting a dinner on the other side of the state and they had a pretty, a pretty decent program. It was pretty long. So, you know, I pulled up, you know, you know the, the game on my phone and I sat there at the head table and was watching the game while I was talking to people. It was, it was actually a lot of fun.
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Good luck tonight and good luck next week to the Seminoles and we'll talk to you again soon. But keep up the good work on the campaign as well.
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All right, Take it easy, guys. Thanks.
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That's Byron Donald's next governor of the state of Florida, I believe. We'll see what happens. And Buck just gave me a nice tease there because three out of the last four weeks, the NFL season, four weeks, we had the game last night. The Seahawks kicked a field goal to win to start off the weekend of activities in the NFL and we won. We have won three of the last four weeks. Every Thursday on the show, we're gonna have some fun. We can play along together. I'm gonna give you a pick with price picks. It's a great week for prize picks. American founded company. In fact, I'm gonna see the founder tonight in Athens. Adam Just a University of Georgia grad, founded prize picks. Guys, they just sold for $4.15 billion. This company is only a few years old. Only in America. Success stories Just a Georgia Bulldog grad, Adam and his team have had tremendous success and they have built a great American brand. For all of you. Just be able to have a little bit more fun in sports. That's what Price Picks does. Every Thursday on the program, I will give you a pick. We have hit on three out of four. I would be. I would have been happy hitting on three all season long to be fair, but it just makes things a little bit more fun. You can play $5 and when you do, you get $50 deposited in your account. All you have to do is use my name, Clay, that's C L A Y and we will give you the pick on Thursday. Everybody can play along Just a little bit more fun. If you are a big football fan like I am and like many of the viewers and listeners out there are, go to prizepix.com you can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Florida, you can play in Georgia, where I'm about to be a little bit later this evening. Prizepix.com Code Clay that is prizepix.com Code clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck Highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom.
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