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Clay Travis
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. You have got me solo this week as Buck is in Taiwan. Hopefully China doesn't invade this week. That would be quite the reporting from Buck over there. But in all seriousness he is in Taiwan. He will be back next week. I've got you guys this week solo as there is a ton of news that is going on right now in real time. I hope all of you had fantastic weekends. I was down in Athens, Georgia, saw the great Georgia Bulldog team lose its 33 game home winning streak to Alabama and also interviewed Paul Fine Bomb will play a little bit of that for you. If you are a college football fan, you certainly know who Paul Fine Bomb is. He told me in a exclusive sit down interview that he is potentially going to run for Senate in Alabama. That story is going to ricochet around everywhere and trust me, there's more coming there. We'll maybe get into that a little bit in the hours that we have to spend ahead. But let me kind of set the table on all of the craziness and zaniness that is underway right now. President Trump is trying to get a Middle east peace accord relating to Gaza. Nearly two years after the October 7, 2023 Hamas attack on the innocent people of Israel, the fallout has now continued for nearly two years. The war in the Middle east there has gone on for nearly two years. Netanyahu right now at the White House meeting with President Trump, there are reports that there is a 21 point peace pact that the United States is trying to get agreed to by both Hamas and Israel that would bring this war to a close. So that is going on right now. There is potentially, and you guys know that I kind of roll my eyes over this because I don't know necessarily that very much changes, but there is potentially going to be a shutdown of the federal government. Some of you are like, yay, why don't we shut it down more frequently? October 1st that would go into effect if we do not get essentially an agreement worked out in the next, I don't know what, 36 hours or so, then the federal government would shut down. My general proposition on government shutdowns is they've happened so many times over the last 25 or 30 years that no one really cares. 40 years. I guess going back to the Clinton era was the first time I remember the whole government shutdown process turning into a big political issue. Eventually they get a worked out solution. But a lot of people want to tell you that there is going to be substantial drama there. Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York City mayor's race. There are three primary races that are scheduled to take place in a little over a month. Mayor of New York City, governor of New Jersey, governor of Virginia. In the first real test to see what, if anything has shifted in the one year since Trump was elected as president of the United States, Eric Adams, again the current mayor of New York City Dropping out. That leaves Curtis Lewa and Andrew Cuomo as the competition running against Momdani. Momdani is a big favorite right now, if you look at the prediction markets to be elected. And it would need to be a 1v1 battle in New York City for this to turn into anything of any substantial significance. J.K. rowling, in terms of the closeness of that race, J.K. rowling, who might be my favorite public celebrity in the world right now, just went scorched earth nuclear bomb style on Emma Thompson, who, who played Hermione Granger in all the Harry Potter movies over trans related issues. I'm going to read you some of that because I read it this morning as I was drinking my Crockett coffee and I just thought, man, I didn't even need coffee this morning. I just needed Harry Potter author J.K. rowling to jump into. Did I say Emma Thompson? Emma Watson. Emma Thompson is also a British actress. Isn't she a lot older? Yeah. All right. Well, that's a whiff by me. Right out of the gate. Emmett Watson. I don't know how many of you caught that, but thanks to the team for being on top of that. Yeah, Emma Thompson, much older, probably much less famous British actors, I believe as well. But yes, Emma Watson, who played Hermione Granger in all of the Harry Potter movies. So I want to start, however, with an awful story that happened yesterday in the state of Michigan. A Mormon church was burned down. Four people were killed. Caroline Levitt went on, I believe this was Fox and Friends this morning to talk about what we know about that Michigan shooting, about that latest attack on religion in the United States. A church burned basically to the ground and four innocent people killed. This is what Caroline Levitt had to.
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Caroline Levitt
Say we know at this point in time is that he was a member of this Michigan community, that he is a veteran of our United States Armed forces. He served in the United States Marine Corps in Iraq. His family is cooperating with the FBI. And so they are currently trying to dig in and get to the bottom of why he committed. There's just this heinous act of violence. It's unfathomable. And as the President rightfully put in his true social yesterday, this appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians. And the Trump administration is fully committed to not only investigating these crimes, but prosecuting them to the full, fullest extent of the law, but also working very hard to prevent them.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so we will continue to monitor that story as well. Again, there are tons of different things underway right now. Middle east, peace with the White House, potential government shutdown. And this is probably the story that got the most attention during the course of the weekend. It is the charges against James Comey. Um, and I wanted to play this. Comey actually did an interview with CNN right before he got indicted. Uh, this is back in May saying he was never able to get me. Here is Comey taunting Trump. This is cut 8. And again, two felony indictments in Northern Virginia in a blue area that would be very favorably disposed to James Comey. But listen to how cocky he was about believing that there would be no consequences for his actions. Cut 8.
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I'm still considered a villain in MAGA world. Hope I said that correctly. Although I've offended enough people in MAGA world. It doesn't matter at this point. I'm not sure exactly why that is. I often joke on the relationship that Trump can't get over. Wakes up in the middle of the night thinking about me and how I'm living my best life. I think it has some combination of, I really have had a happy, productive life since then and, and that I spoke out about him and that despite their absolute best efforts, they were never able, never able to get me.
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Clay Travis
Well, a little bit spoke too soon. He should have maybe started to high step into the end zone. Not seeing that you still had one defender left. And he got flattened right before he was going into the end zone when he thought the statute of limitations was going to run out. I haven't heard very many people talk about this. We talked about it on the program in the immediate aftermath of the indictment. This is deep blue Alexandria, Virginia, for those of you who know the D.C. area well, northern Virginia, very much of a connected hotspot for the Democrat Party based on its proximity to Washington, D.C. it's not as if they went to my home state of Tennessee or Alabama or West Virginia or Wyoming, some state that overwhelmingly voted for President Trump and got an indictment. Not only did they go to a state that Trump lost, they Virginia, they lost about five points. They went into the bluest part of that state, one of the bluest parts in the country. And I give. I think this should be hammered home more. I give J.D. vance credit here. He's one of the few that has been pointing this out for everybody out there, saying, oh, this is unbelievable. This is unprecedented. We know they're liars. They didn't say anything when they tried to bankrupt, imprison and kill Trump. But even if you wanted to make an argument that this was some sort of unprecedented attack on norms of American life. That's already happened with what Democrats did, but they did it in a rigged jury pool that advantaged them massively. We got these double invite indictments coming down in Northern Virginia, where likely the majority of the people on the grand jury, probably the vast majority, this is 75, 25 area that is in favor of the Democrat Party. The vast majority of these grand jurors that indicted James Comey were actually Kamala Biden Obama voters. Here's J.D. vance pointing that out. Cut 11.
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J.D. Vance
This was a grand jury indictment delivered in Alexandria, Virginia. Not exactly a hotbed of Donald Trump's political support. And to the people who are saying that this is all political, I mean, look, if you look at our track record in the Trump administration, there have been people who have been prosecuted, who have been political allies, who agree with our politics, there have been people who disagree with our politics. We're not letting politics drive this. We're letting the requirements of the justice system and the law drive this. And unfortunately for James Comey, when I look at this indictment, I see a guy who lied under oath and he'll have his day in court. He'll have his opportunity to prove the other case in front of the jury. But the idea that this is driven by politics, I think is preposterous.
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Clay Travis
So I think J.D. vance is exactly right. Now, I still would argue that it's unlikely that we're going to see a conviction of James Comey because the jury pool is going to be a 75%, probably Biden Kamala voting jury pool. And I think at least one of those jurors will say, I'm not convicting James Comey because I hate President Trump. And they're not gonna look at the actual facts here. Also, we've got an Obama appointed judge who I believe is going to be very favorably disposed towards James Comey. Having said all of that, Lindsey Halligan getting a double indictment here right before the statute of limitations expires is huge. And here is, and I want to talk about some of this, here is where this can become a much more significant factor going forward. If they are able to get someone to testify against James Comey. Is there someone out there in the FBI who has seen the light of day and is willing to tell the truth and knows that James Comey was encouraging leaks or leaking himself related to this Russia collusion hoax? Remember, that is what he is being prosecuted for. Not even necessarily the leaks, but just potentially perjuring himself under testimony in front of Congress. The only ways that you can prove perjury. Right. Are circumstantial evidence. That is all of the other factors that prove that someone knowingly lied surrounding the lie or and this is a part of the circumstantial evidence, but direct evidence from someone who knows that Comey was lying, someone who is testifying that Comey knew that his testimony was dishonest, untrue, in front of the, in front of that congressional committee. That, to me, is one of the questions that I have out here. How are they going to put this case together? It's a challenging case. It's a challenging judge, It's a challenging jury pool. But Lindsey Halligan getting that indictment where she did up against the timeframe is an incredible accomplishment by her and I do think has set the table for there to be consequences for all of these acts that were put in place against President Trump. All right, no guest schedule today. 800-282-2882. We'll take a bunch of your calls, bunch of your talkbacks. Appreciate all of you. Again, tons of different current event stories that we are monitoring, including a hearing related to the Charlie Kirk assassination that is also taking place out in Utah that we will be on top of as well. So a lot of different breaking news stories. We're going to keep you updated on all of them as we roll through. And in the meantime, I want to tell you it's falling. It's fall now and the weather's getting a little cooler and the leaves are starting to change color. And soon the leaves are going to be coming down in abundance. And if you have a ton of gutters, that means your gutters are going to be getting clogged. Now here at the Travis household, we never have any idea what's going to be in the gutters because the boys are playing sports in the backyard all the time. I've told you guys about trying to figure out why my gutters were clogged and then wiffle balls were all piled up for the boys. Been hitting foul balls, been hitting home run balls and into our gutters. We had to go up and go get those. This is what Leaffilter is all about. You can get a free inspection. Save up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com clay a leaffilter trusted pro will clean out, realign, seal your gutters before installing leaf filters just in time for the fall. This is the time to take action. Over a million homeowners to date have trusted leaf filter. Don't spend your fall worrying about your gutter schedule. A Free Inspection up to 30 off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com Clay that's L E A F filter.com Clay Free estimate free inspection 30 off at leaffilter.com clay that's leaffilter.com Clay See representative for warranty details. You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim your sanity with clay and bun. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Erica Adams dropping out of the New York City's mayoral race as well as the James Comey charges fallout. A lot of news out there and I made some news that is starting to ricochet around the political universe as well just in the last few hours. So let me kind of take you into an interview that I did over the weekend. So I went down for the Georgia Alabama game in Athens, had an amazing time hanging out and and meeting many of you all over the place. Congratulations to Alabama. Turns out they're still pretty good at they beat Georgia Electric environment, Sanford Stadium. It was, it was fantastic. I did a couple of interviews longer form. We may share some clips from them with Paul Finebaum. And that's what I'm talking about today. I also talked with Senate candidate in Georgia, Derek Dooley, who is a friend of mine, former football coach running to try to beat Jon Ossoff in the competitive Georgia Senate race down there. So we may have a couple of cuts for that for you later in the week as well. But we did two what I would say, long form interviews. I talked with Paul Finebaum for an hour. Now some of you are going to immediately know who Paul Feinbaum is. He is a SEC network ESPN analyst, longtime radio guy, hosts a multi hour daily SEC network show. If you watch ESPN at all, he's regularly on First Take with Stephen A. Smith. I've known Paul for 20 years. So I got started in radio through writing in local. Some of you've been listening to me since I did local sports talk radio in my hometown of Nashville. And I was employed back in the day on 1045 of the zone in Nashville doing a daily sports talk show. And Paul was employed in Birmingham, Alabama doing a daily sports talk show as well. And we were both employed by a company called Cumulus. They dominated sports talk in Birmingham and dominated sports talk in Nashville. And so I've known Paul for 20 years, some of you listening to me right now all over the state of Alabama. You've heard me go on fine bomb show back in the day quite a lot. So we had a one hour long sit down and as part of that conversation, many of you know because Tommy Tuberville, who's been on this show a great number of times, is giving up his Senate seat to run for governor of Alabama. There is an open Senate seat in Alabama. And I, truth be told, let me just, I'll just tell you everything. I have had a lot of conversations with a lot of people in Alabama about what's going to happen with that Senate seat. I talked to Bruce Pearl about it a great deal. Auburn men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl, he's been on this program. He's a great friend of mine. He really seriously thought about running. He has stepped down as a college basketball coach at Auburn. He's basically going to be now the mayor of Auburn. He's not running. Paul told me that he had had similar Paul Feinbaum conversations with Bruce Pearl. We're all friends and he wasn't going to run if Bruce Pearl was going to run. But Bruce Pearl said, you know what? I'm not going to do it. And Paul and I had conversations and he said, hey, Clay, I'm thinking about doing this. And I said, okay, well, let's kind of walk through it. And he said, what would, what's the best way that I could let people know that I'm serious about this? And I said, well, how about you sit down with me and we have a long form discussion and we'll get into it. And that full long form discussion is going to go up tomorrow. But Paul, we are going to release a couple of clips. You'll see me talking about it on Fox News with Will Kane. This just came out. I think Paul's going to run. This is my opinion based on my conversations with him. He could certainly change his mind. But I would encourage you guys to go listen to the full conversation. But here is the specific part about why now. Why is Paul Finebaum thinking about giving up sports and going and running for the Senate in Alabama? Here was his answer.
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You're sitting there talking to Stephen A. Smith and as you're waiting for your turn, you're thinking, I wonder if I should move forward on this. So it's been going on for a couple of days or if not weeks, and it's just hard to chisel it down to make an educated decision. But to say I'm considering it, of course, yes, it's something that I can't say I've dreamed about, I can't say I've thought about. I'm not a career politician who had it all mapped out. This is something that just came to me and it's also very late and I don't know quite how to deal with it. But as far as your question, you know, would I give up what I'M doing. I would. I would. I would have to.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so the question in there was, what is part of the motivating factor? And maybe we can get a little bit more of that clip. He said, charlie Kirk and I do think. And you may have experienced this in your own life, because I know how many of you were impacted. I think a lot of people, no matter what they do for a living, you could be a sports talk radio show host at espn. You could be a garbage truck driver in Spokane, Washington. Listening to us right now, you could be a truck driver in. In Northern Virginia. It really seriously made a lot of people contemplate what's going on in the country and how all of us could do more to try and make things better. And I think that is one of the most motivating factors for Paul Finebaum right now. And I'll give you a little bit of a preview of our conversation. Paul goes around to college campuses for the SEC Network every weekend, and he meets a lot of college kids because the kids show up for the crowd at the events that he does. And in talking with him, what he saw happen to Charlie made it very hard for him to think, I want to continue to just do sports for the rest of my career. And I think the reason he wanted to sit down with me is I made that decision several years ago. Covid was my motivating factor. You guys know I still love sports. I still talk a lot about sports. I think it's important to go to where people are culturally and connect with them. That's why I still do a lot of sports, because I think you can really connect with people in speaking their common language where they are, as opposed to trying to drag everybody into politics all the time. And I made that decision. I feel fortunate to have the boss, Julie Talbot, that we do, because she really got me by saying, you could do sports talk radio for the rest of your life and not have the impact that you would have in six months of doing this show that we do now. And so if you really, and I do care desperately about the direction of the country and you care about the world that your kids are coming into, then you have to say yes to this opportunity. I didn't seek it out. And I think that's what Paul now is finding and working through in his head in the wake of what happened to Charlie Kirk. And I really do believe that he's going to run, and I think he's going to win. And I asked him in the interview because there's always the skepticism okay, Are you just doing this to get more money? Are you just doing this for the attention that it's going to create? And I've known Paul for 20 years. I don't think he is. I think he legitimately feels like there are serious things in life, that picking the winner of college football games, while it's fun, is the toy chest of life. And he's concerned about the trajectory of the country. And I think he loves the people of Alabama. And so, again, as we kind of work through this, this thing is going to land like a neutron bomb. I'm just going to be honest with you, because a little bit later today, we're going to release a clip where Paul says, hey, Disney would not let me interview President Trump. He was all set up to interview President Trump in 2019 when President Trump went to the LSU Alabama game. Joe Burrow against Tua, for those of you who are sports fans. And it was all set up. He was going to go to the White House. He was going to sit down with President Trump, and Disney said no. And I asked him in the interview, I said, well, you know, that's kind of interesting, because they interviewed Barack Obama all the time. And Paul said, yeah, they sent in Andy Katz, for those of you who remember. And Barack Obama did a men's and women's basketball bracket every year from the White House, and ESPN treated it as a major news story. And so Paul was all set up to sit down with President Trump, to talk to him about going to the big game between LSU and Alabama. It is for most journalists, interviewing the President of the United States is the apex of your career. One of the moments that is why you do this. I've got to be honest with you. If I had an interview set up with the President of the United States of any party, and somebody said to me, no, you do it, I would lose it. And I think in the way. And so Paul talks about that, and I think that's going to land like a neutron bomb inside of Disney, because they're just dealing with the Jimmy Kimmel fallout. Trump, Paul Feinbaum. I didn't know his politics. To be fair, we did not talk about politics. I have tons of friends that. That I just don't talk about politics at all with. In fact, one of my high school buddies came out for a drink with us after this interview, hung out with us. He's a Kamala voter. He thinks I'm a moron for my politics, but he's one of my best friends. And so I have tons of people in my life that I just don't sit around. It's probably not a surprise. Probably a lot of you do too. I don't sit around minutely analyzing politics with I'll have a beer with anybody. And I think Paul's the same way. And so I didn't even know his politics. I'm gonna be honest with you. So a lot of the people I do know because they reach out to me and they say, hey, thanks for saying. I'm talking about people on air. Hey, thanks for saying this, man. You're speaking for a lot of us. I didn't know Paul was a Trump voter. I didn't know he was a registered Republican. And I think he's just fed up. I think he's just fed up with the direction the culture is going to and the Charlie Kirk was a crucible moment for him of as someone who goes to college campuses every weekend and speech sees and speaks to so many of these young men and young women. What happened to Charlie was, I think, devastating to Paul as it was devastating to many of you. And it has him questioning some of his life choices and contemplating what he wants the next chapter of his life to be like. And I know many of you probably have had those same thoughts in your mind. Like I said, whether you're a FedEx truck delivery guy, a truck driver of ESPN television analyst, or just a mom and a dad out there trying to raise kids to the best of your ability. I feel like it has struck so many of us and in a profound way that's had many people questioning a lot of their choices. I mean, heck, some of you probably went to church who haven't been to church in a long time, just because you felt compelled to go in the wake of seeing that video just to try to do something even it's a small thing to try to make the country a little bit better. And I think there is an awakening that is going on across the cultural landscape. And I think it's brave, frankly, of Paul to come out as being a Trump voter. Sounds crazy. I think he's the first on air person at ESPN who's currently employed by Disney to ever come out and say, hey, I'm a Trump voter and this is going to have major shockwaves. So I wanted to share it with you. There are more of these cuts coming, by the way. A lot of you out there. 800. 282, 282, you can react. But I wanted to make sure that we, that we played all that for you. And so we will play a little bit more of that interview for you potentially going forward. But I also think this is the continuing fallout, the legacy of what happened to Charlie Kirk, which you could see on the campus at Penn State where 5,000 young people were wearing those Freedom T shirts in the crowd. And I think it's bringing a lot of people off the sideline who might otherwise have been staying silent every day. Americans should be able to speak openly about family, politics, values without retribution. 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Stories of Freedom, Stories of America. Inspirational stories that unite us all each day. Spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. People ask us all the time how we can save the next generation. We've got our show and the info is an antidote. But we also have a couple books coming out. Clay. That's right. And you can pre order both of them right now and be book nerds just like us. You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too. Mine's called Balls How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America. And mine is Manufacturing Delusion how the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination and Propaganda against you. Both are great reads. One might even say they would make fabulous gifts indeed. So do us a solid and pre order yours on Amazon today. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck is in Taiwan and he is. He'll be back next week, but he is as far away almost as either of us have been. I think I went to Australia, but so many different moving stories out there. Buckle be back next week. We are awaiting the press conference which we will go to live in the event that it happens before the show ends today. That press conference scheduled to start any moment with Benjamin Netanyahu and President Trump relating to potential Middle east peace agreement. Obviously very big deal. If you are just now joining us, we've been following a lot of different stories. The church attack on the Christian Latter Day Saints facility in Michigan continues to be followed, is being looked at as a terror attack. Uh, Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York City mayor's race. Continued fallout from the Comey charges over the course of the weekend. And our friend J.K. rowling weighed in. Uh, and I'm going to read some more of what she had to say about the situation surrounding trans debate. Do men who identify as women become women again? We are waiting in real time, spinning plates here a little bit, uh, to see when or if that White House press availability between Netanyahu and Trump is going to begin. Uh, the fine bomb Paul Feinbaum news that I have shared with you guys. I'll be on Will Kane show talking about this on Fox News in a little bit as there is, I think, a very real chance that Paul Feinbaum of ESPN and the SEC Network is going to soon announce that he is running for Senate in the state of Alabama. We played some cuts for you of that and many of you are continuing to react. Let me hit a couple of your emails that came in directly to me. We had one of our callers down there saying that he was, that he was interested in the fine bomb situation and it was of the Allison family. And this is a note from, from one of our listeners. That was awesome. You may not realize the older gentleman, 89 years old, listens to the show every single day that called from Alabama. He's a part of the Allison family, the first family of NASCAR in Alabama. That gentleman was literally part of the living legends that are part of the Allison family and the Hueytown gang. He was the racer that got into a fight at the conclusion of the first Daytona 500 that was ever televised from start to finish. Nice little treat to my day. Thank you, guys. Keep up the great work. That was positive email. Gary is upset. Did you know who you were talking to? Eddie Allison, the older brother of the famous Allison brothers of nascar. You didn't give him much time. Look, I didn't know. All I get is a first name and a state and so I appreciate him calling. He's welcome to Call Back anytime. I loved the call. 89 years old, said he listens to the show while he's out in his backyard on his swing. That sounds amazing to me. And we appreciate him calling. We appreciate all of you who are listening all over the place. Dean is upset with me because I said that, that I've got friends, and I don't talk about politics with Dean from South Florida says he can't be friends with anybody who ever voted for a Democrat.
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Ff I don't have any liberal friends. They're just not ethical, they're not moral. I would never be friends with anybody that voted for Harris or Biden.
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Clay Travis
These guys are lowlife scumbags.
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And if you vote for Trump, I can be friends with you.
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Clay Travis
I can never be friends with anybody.
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That votes for a Democrat. They're just scumbags.
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Clay Travis
I disagree. I dis. I understand. Some people are like, first of all, that's what a lot of left wingers do. They're the ones that are more likely, I think, to just cut off relations. Oh, you voted for Trump. You can't come to Thanksgiving anymore. Oh, you won't wear a mask everywhere you go. Good luck coming over for Christmas. I don't think that's healthy. I really don't. I've got a ton of friends that, frankly, disagree with me on everything politically. And I know those people long before Trump, and I'm going to know them long after Trump. So I just, I don't believe in the idea of cutting people out of your life who have different political opinions than you. I actually think we need more people who are willing to be friends with people across the aisle. And just think about this. I think it's hard to demonize Trump supporters. If you, like me, are an admitted Trump supporter and people in your life who may vote on the left are have to think about you as that Trump supporter, as opposed to just this amorphous idea they've created of, oh, the Trump supporters are all dumb, ignorant, stupid, redneck, racist, transphobic, whatever the homophobic, whatever slurs you want. Hitler, Hitler, Nazi, bootstrapping, awful human beings. I think that you can only believe that if you don't actually know Trump supporters in your life. And I gotta tell you, there's lots of people who vote Democrat. Almost every single day, I hear from somebody who says, you know what, Clay? I'm a little bit like you. Go back and listen to what Bill Clinton said in 1992. It is nothing like what the modern Democrat Party believes. Bill Clinton, 1992 would be a Republican right now. Bill Clinton, 1996 Republican. I'm not saying he's right on every issue, but Donald Trump used to be a Democrat and then he saw the light and started to recognize how crazy everything was going. Donald Trump gave money to the Clintons back in the day. Trump is just sane. And there are a lot of us out there that are just sane and we look around and we say there's a crazy party and that's the Democrats and there's a sane party and that's the Republicans. It's my opinion. But I bet a lot of you in your lives, you know people who are voting Democrat just because they decided they were on the Democrat team when they were 16 years old and they may be 66 now. And the democrat party of 50 years ago is nothing like the Democrat Party today. And every day a few of them see the light, they get red pilled. And I think one way they do it is, is by interacting with normal, rational, reasonable people who they actually have a moment of thought and think, wait a minute, Clay's not crazy. Why is he a Trump guy? And they start to work through. Not everybody, but there are enough people out there that start to think that through. And that's how Trump win, won in 2024. That's how he won the popular vote. So I understand the frustration out there of how do they not see everything that I see. This is why I read everything. I am very confident that I could make the arguments they make in the New York Times as good or better than they do, but could too. We are aware of all of their arguments. We're making the ones that we think are better, which is how we ended up at Trump support. But I don't think you help your arguments by just running in the corner, covering your ears and being like, I only want to be surrounded by people that agree with me on everything every minute of every day. To me, that's what Democrats do. That's how their party has become toxic. That's how it's become such a shrinking tent. You have to interact with arguments with which you disagree to understand why you agree with the ones that you do. So look, I love the fact that Dean is a listener, but I don't understand and don't think it's helpful to just say what a leftist would. I'm cutting everybody else off who doesn't agree with me a hundred percent on everything. I don't think that's healthy. I would never cut off friends or family personally because of their politics. And I wouldn't want you to either. I don't think that's healthy. Moreover, you can't win doing that. The way you win is by expanding your coalition. There aren't enough die hard right wingers to get anybody elected in any competitive state. You have to appeal to reasonable, rational people out there that might be super busy. They got real things going on in your life. I got three boys. Do you know how much time we spend scheduling getting those boys to all of their events? I got a 9th grade football game to get to. I really believe that my son's games. It's almost like they're pranking us to try to play the games in the most difficult places to get to at the most difficult place at times. 5:30 kickoff, an hour and a half from my house. We live in a major American city. There's nowhere they could have gone close. No, we got to drive all over the place. People are busy. I appreciate y' all who are listening every single day and following and being super attentive with the politics of the moment. You guys are what we should want from an enlightened electorate. But if only people knew what was going on every day in the country voted, there wouldn't be very many voters. Most people are really busy trying to get their kids to and from sporting events, trying to make sure they're making enough money to pay off their mortgage. They don't have time to get enmeshed in every issue. A lot of people just vote the way they have for a long time. You gotta be there when suddenly their antenna go up and they think for a minute, wait, this doesn't make very much sense. That doesn't sound like something that a Democrat would've said in 1988 or 1998. In fact, a lot of the arguments Trump's making right now, democrats made em 25, 30 years ago. So that's my argument of how you win. Politics is the art of persuasion. It's about communication and making the right decisions. And if you decide, I don't want to communicate with anybody who is persuadable or willing to listen to you, I think you guarantee that you're perpetually in the minority. Chris from Tampa. Gg what's he got?
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Hey, Clay, I love you to death, bud. But since you brought it up, you always say you trust people more if they watch football. I trust people less if they watch football. Because one minute they're mad at football, the next minute they're not mad at football. And all the crap that football's pulled over the years and sports just in general, for the most part, with all this protesting and crap, I'm not giving my money to the enemy. When I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not doing it.
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Clay Travis
I respect that argument. Here's my argument in the contrary. Then you just give over everything to left wingers. I mean, I could have just said, you know what? I'm fed up with what I see from left wing politics. I'm not going to make arguments anymore. I'm not going to found outkick. I'm not going to do this show and try to speak to a larger community. I'm not going to worry about sports media at all because they disagree with me. So I'm going to go spend my time doing something else. And by the way, the Titans are so bad that a part of me is not watching as much NFL just because my team is the worst in the NFL and I got other things that I would rather do than watch my team get their ass kicked. But we're winning. What you're saying would lead to, oh, Riley Gaines was swimming against a dude pretending to be a chick. She should have just said, I'm done with swimming and gone and spent her time doing something else. Well, what about all those other little girls out there? You don't win by abandoning the battlefield. You might feel better, but to me, you're like the kid who takes his ball and goes home when he's getting his ass kicked in a game. I'm going to put on the gloves and I'm going to throw punches because I think I'm better at it than the other side. But if I just live him, leave him alone in the ring, he's going to raise his arms above the sky and name himself the champion. And he's going to destroy, in my opinion, American culture. You win by fighting. You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well, they're mean. I don't agree with some of this stuff. I'm out. Lace them up. Put in your mouth guard and start throwing haymakers. That's what I do every day. And I think we've won because we have better arguments. But that requires that you not abandon the battlefield. And so I think the battlefield of culture is what ultimately decides elections in this country. And sports is maybe the foremost battlefield. And the reason why I trust sports fans is because ultimately they're rational. Everybody believes in the scoreboard. And the scoreboard right now is Republicans are scoring points and making sense and Democrats are not. And if you keep putting points up on your side of the scoreboard. Eventually the culture changes and Donald Trump wins a popular vote victory and hopefully we can string several of those together. That's my thought process and trust me, I spend a lot of time on it. Still waiting on the White House for the Trump press conference and availability with Benjamin Netanyahu. So we hopefully will join some of that before the program ends today. But in the meantime, I want to tell you all about Lifelock. Are you out there right now on the Internet? If you are, and almost all of you are in some level, your information's probably going to get stolen. Feels like everybody's information is getting stolen all the time. In October, which we're about to get to, is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, a reminder your digital footprint always at risk. Every day hackers steal identities, drain bank accounts, open fraudulent accounts. LifeLock has some tips to help you from becoming a victim of identity theft. Use strong passwords, set up multi factor authentication and regularly update the software on your devices. But for real peace of mind, get LifeLock. LifeLock will monitor hundreds of millions of data points a second for threats to your identity. If your identity stolen, a LifeLock US based restoration specialist will help solve identity theft issues on your behalf, guaranteed or your money back. Plus, all LifeLock plans are backed by the million dollar protection package, meaning LifeLock will reimburse you to your plan's limits if you lose money due to identity theft. Stay smart, stay safe and stay protected with Lifelock. Get comprehensive identity protection 30 day free trial@lifelock.com use my name Clay as the promo code. That's lifelock.com promo code Clay for 30 days free terms apply. News you can count on, and some laughs too. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show we're about to go to the White House where President Trump is speaking alongside of Benjamin Netanyahu. 20 part piece plan for the Middle east when we jump in here, it's probably going to be complicated like jumping into the deep end of the pool. So I'm going to be listening along with you. We may pull out just because it's going to be so complicated and we're jumping in right in the middle. Let me give you one thing in response to some of those callers saying like, hey, I don't want to interact with anybody who voted the other way. I don't think you can win that way. Also got a story quickly here as we get ready for Trump. You know what my grandparents did when they retired? Grandfather worked in a factory his whole life. Grandmother was a schoolteacher, Georgia. Grandfather was a factory worker in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. They went to work ministering to prisoners who hadn't found Jesus yet. They Sat in their homes and wrote letters constantly to prisoners, people who were in prison often for doing very awful things to try to convince them to find Jesus in their life. Reason why I bring it up. If you are religious, would you ever say, I only want to interact with Christians? If you truly believe that the goal of a religion is to save people from eternal damnation, wouldn't you want to focus on trying to save people like my grandparents did? In order to convert, you have to go to the unconverted. It's easy to preach to the choir. It might make you feel better to never be challenged. But real calling is convincing people of something they have not yet realized. In my opinion, that's the entire purpose of Christianity because otherwise Christianity would have ended very quickly. If you said, oh, I'm only going to talk to other people who are Christians, then it would have never spread. It would have never turned into the life changing and cultural enrichment that it became. Just think about that. I understand that politics and religion are somewhat different, but just think about that in your own life. If I'm only talking to people who agree with me all the time, how can you change the world? How can you make it better? And what would have happened to Christianity if early Christians had said that? I'm only going to talk to people who are already Christians. I don't have time for anybody else. It might make you feel better internally, but it's not changing the world. Trust me. Okay, let's go live right now to what we hope could change the world, which is peace in the Middle East. Trump is trying to help make it happen. Benjamin Netanyahu there with him. This is White House right now live.
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The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this. So it would be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States. That's what I want, is some extra work to do. But it's so important that I'm willing to do it and we'll do it right. And we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders. And we'll have a board and one of the people that that wants to be on the board is the UK Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Good man, Very good man. And some others. And they'll be named over the next few days and it'll be quite the board working. Everybody wants to be on it. Now. I don't know if that had anything to do. They named me and everybody else wanted to be on it. I guess they figure well, he's a soft touch. He'll be easy to deal with. Working with the World bank and others, it will be responsible for recruiting and training a new government that will be made up of Palestinians, along with highly qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board, but they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all, directly or indirectly. As you know, thousands of Hamas leaders have been killed and soldiers have been killed, and we can never forget October 7th. But thousands have paid the price for that. And now it's time to get our hostages back and get back to trying to build something that's really great and very important. In our meeting today, Prime Minister Netanyahu is very clear about his opposition to a Palestinian state. And he continuously mentions October 7th. And I understand that most people do, and I understand and respect his position on many things, but what he's doing today is so good for Israel. And I noticed that they have large crowds gathering in Israel all the time, and they have my name up. They like me for whatever reason, maybe, I don't know, but they too likely. But they say two things. Please get the hostages back and please end the war. They've had it, it's had it. So I think it's a very popular thing you do because he's a warrior. He doesn't know about getting back to a normal way of life, but he is a warrior and Israel is lucky to have him. But now the people want to get back to peace. They want to get back to. To normalization in a true sense. Several countries have foolishly recognized the Palestinian state as, you know, some of our European friends, allies, good people. But they're really, I think, doing that because they're very tired of what's going on for so many decades. They've been presidents and prime ministers for years. And during this time, having to do with the Middle east, all they're doing is talking about the same thing over and over. They want to see it get back. And nobody wants. Wants that more than me or I believe, Bibi too. But the people of Israel want it. They really want it. They want the hostages back. That includes the probably 32 bodies that we're talking about, 20 people that are living, 32 or so people that are dead, and they want to have peace. So let us not forget how we got here. Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they would live in peace. Remember that? A long time ago, they withdrew. They said, you take it. This is our contribution to peace. But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let them have it. And I never forgot that because I said, that doesn't sound like a good deal to me as a real estate person. I mean, they gave up the ocean, right, Ron? They gave up the ocean. They said, who would do this deal? And it still didn't work out. They were very generous, actually. And they gave up the most magnificent piece of land, in many ways, in the Middle East. And they said, all we want to do now is have peace. And that was. That request was not honored. Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, Hamas diverted resources to build over 400 miles of tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their military command posts and launch sites in hospital, schools, and mosques. So if you went after them, you'd be after them, and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out a hospital or school or a mosque. That terrible thing. Terrible, terrible way to have to fight. No fight is good, but that's a real bad one. So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace? Many, many, many. I've seen so many of them, and they have support. And I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny, because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility for their destiny. Fully condemn and prohibit terrorism and earn their way to a brighter future. They don't want the life that they've had. They've had a rough life with Hamas. If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out in my vision for peace in 2020, they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world, the great, great leaders. These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders that are built for great countries and very wealthy countries. What the future holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows. But the plan that we put forward today is focused on ending the war immediately. Getting all of our hostages back, getting everything back. Hard to believe when you even say it. And creating conditions for durable Israeli security and Palestinian security success. Israeli security is going to be involved. We're going to help you. We'll be there with you. In terms of helping with security, we want to make sure it works. We just want to make sure it works. There shouldn't be a shot fired now. There will be, I guess, because that's the way it seems to be. But they shouldn't have to be Within a few days, they shouldn't have to be a shot fired, maybe for eternity. Wouldn't that be nice? I hope it's true. I can tell you the leadership of that region feels that there's a good chance of it being true. So this will lead to a disagreement that we're talking about, will lead to a sustainable long term peace. No president in history has been a greater friend of the state of Israel than I have. In addition to negotiating the Abraham Accords, I like to say it that way because the real people, that's what they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but it's so much nicer when you say Abraham.
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Clay Travis
All right, that is vintage Trump. Let's pull here. We're going to go to a break. Biggest takeaway here is that Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said, quote, if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release of all remaining hostages immediately. But in no case more than 72 hours, the hostages are coming back. But if they do not agree to this, he is saying basically you're going to have to deal with Netanyahu, essentially Hamas and the people of Gaza. This is my last best offer and it's time to accept it. We'll continue to monitor. We'll grab you a couple of clips as we are going to break here. This is all happening in real time. Trump trying as many presidents before him have and frankly as every president before him so far has failed to create a form of lasting peace in the Middle east. Is a 20 part peace plan that the White House has released. That is he is discussing right now. Very complicated but we certainly will be talking about it a lot, probably starting tomorrow. Throughout the course of the week as we wait to see how a moss is going to respond. Look, the fall is beautiful until it leads to gutters over clogging your gutters. And that is what Leaffilter is all about. America's number one gutter protection. Right now you can save up to 30% off your entire purchase at Leaffilter's website by going to leaffilter.com clay protect your home from flooding, roof damage, rotting and foundational issues. A Leaffilter trusted pro will clean out, realign, seal your gutters before installing leaff filters. Over 1 million homeowners today have trusted leaffilter. Don't spend this fall worrying about your gutters. Schedule your free inspection. Get up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com clay the leaffilter solution includes a lifetime no clog guarantee. That's leaf filter.com clay free estimate free inspection 30 off@leaffilter.com clay that's leaffilter.com clay see representative for warranty details. Making America Great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck Podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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