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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Time how we can save the next generation.
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Buck Sexton
We've got our show and the info is an antidote. But we also have a couple books coming out.
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Clay Travis
Clay that's right. And you can pre order both of them right now and be book nerds just like us.
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Buck Sexton
You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too.
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Clay Travis
Mine's called Balls How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America.
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Buck Sexton
And Mine is Manufacturing Delusion, how the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, Discrimination, and Propaganda against you.
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Clay Travis
Both are great reads. One might even say they would make fabulous gifts indeed.
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Buck Sexton
So do us a solid and pre order yours on Amazon today.
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Clay Travis
Welcome in. Hope all of you are having fantastic Tuesdays wherever you are across the country or around the world. We have got a ton of different stories to dive into with you. Buck is in Taiwan, as I said yesterday, for the entire week. So he will be back on Monday. I'll read a couple of the tweets that he has shared as he has been over there doing meetings and checking out what could become one of the major geopolitical flashpoints in the world. He is there for this week. Like I said, we'll be back on Monday. Couple of guests coming your way in the third hour. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma and Steve Scalise will join us as well. As the looming government shutdown nears closer, inches closer and closer. Big speech this morning by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. It can be summed up as don't be fat. If you are a general or an admiral, you should be in decent shape. And also the job of the military is to kick ass. And so if you can't fulfill basic standards for health and fitness and lethality, then you shouldn't be serving in our armed forces. And it's very well received speech. We may play a couple of cuts of that for you eventually. President Trump also spoke and has been basically speaking all day so far, and a lot of it focused on both the military and also now on the cost of prescription drugs. And he is right now in the process of letting everyone know that he is doing his best to bring down the cost of prescription drugs. So all of that is underway. We are awaiting news on whether Hamas is going to agree to the Middle east peace plan that was laid out yesterday near the end of the program. And we will continue to monitor the looming, as I said, government shutdown, which is likely to not impact very many of you very substantially. And again, I'm sorry for being cynical on this, but eventually they're going to reach an agreement. It's going to lead to deficits increasing and nobody's life is really going to be that impacted. I feel like they've overplayed their hand on the government shutdown as a major narrative that people care about. It's been going on for the first time. I really remember it becoming a major issue was in the Clinton White House. And maybe the most significant aspect of the Clinton government shutdown issues were that that was when Clinton initially met Monica Lewinsky and ended up engaging in salacious behavior in the Oval Office. That maybe, put it mildly, uh, that may be the most consequential thing that happened from the government shutdowns back in the 90s was the Clinton impeachments and the Monica Lewinsky fracas. But again, this is eventually going to get it. It's eventually going to get itself fixed. So let's play a couple of things just off the top that I do think are significant of the news here is Trump announcing that Pfizer will offer prescription drugs to Americans at most favored nation prices. This just happened. Cut 32.
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Today, I'm thrilled to announce that one of the world's largest pharmaceutical manufacturers and one of the best anywhere in the world, Pfizer, has agreed to offer countless prescription medications at major discounts in the United States as a result of the most favored nation drug pricing order that we established earlier this year. As you know, the United States is paying sometimes 10 times more than other countries for drugs. And a lot of excuses were made for that, but went on for many years, Many, many years, Decades. And it's not going on any longer. We're going to be paying the lowest price now. We're going to be paying whatever the lowest price is. Favored nations.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
This will save American taxpayers and consumers.
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so that is what's going on right now. Let me play some of these, because I do think the cuts from Pete Hegseth earlier today talking to his generals and his admirals is significant because what it's coming to represent is we are pushing back aggressively against the idea basically that diversity is our strength or that men and women are the same and that the ability of someone basically to kick ass is not paramount inside of the military. Hegseth is saying, look, our job is to kick ass, and we're going to do everything that it takes to make sure that everyone in the military is capable of doing that. Let's listen to a couple of these cuts because I do think culturally this is significant. Pete Hegseth cut 15 today, at my.
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Pete Hegseth
Direction, each service will ensure that every requirement for every combat mos, for every designated combat arms position returns to the highest male standard only because this job is life or death. Standards must be met, and not just met at every level. We should Seek to exceed the standard.
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Clay Travis
This is important because I know a lot of you are in the service and they have developed this idea that there is a male standard for physicality and female standard for physicality. And if your job is to kick ass, the standard should just be the kick ass standard, not, hey, men have to do this to qualify and women have to do this lesser ability to qualify. That doesn't make any sense when the job actually requires ass kicking. And so I think this is significant. It also ties in with this cut 18. Biology matters. Men and women are different. Listen to cut 18.
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Pete Hegseth
As foolish and reckless as the woke department was, those officers were following elected political leadership. An entire generation of generals and admirals were told that they must parrot the insane fallacy that, quote, our diversity is our strength. Of course we know our unity is our strength. They had to put out dizzying DEI and LGBTQI plus statements. They were told females and males are the same thing. Or that males who think they're females, totally normal. They were told that we need a green fleet and electric tanks. They were told to kick out Americans who refused an emergency vaccine. They followed civilian policies set by foolish and reckless political leaders.
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Clay Travis
You know, this is also a standard that Hegseth is applying going forward when it comes to the generals and the admirals as well. In terms of what do you want your leadership to look like? Cut 16.
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Pete Hegseth
The new war Department golden rule is this. Do onto your unit as you would have done onto your own child's unit. Would you want him serving with fat or unfit or under trained troops? Or alongside people who can't meet basic standards? Or in a unit where standards were lowered so certain types of troops could make it in? In a unit where leaders were promoted for reasons other than merit performance and war fighting, the answer is not just no. It's hell, no.
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Clay Travis
Okay? This is important. And the military is symbolic of this in many ways. What the Trump administration is advocating for is a simple and basic return to the idea of the meritocracy that is the best man or the best woman should have the most success, not the person who looks a certain way and that we don't need to have. And I think this is essential, integral even. We don't need to have our nation directly reflecting what the population looks like as a whole when it comes to elite jobs. And I'll give you an example from the world of sports that I've been hammering for a long time what Pete Hexess said, diversity is not our strength. I think that's 100% true. Now, diversity of thought matters in many respects, but what matters is that the most elite are able to achieve at the highest possible level. Let me give you an example. The Olympics are next year. The United States men's basketball team may not have any white, Asian or Hispanic athletes on it. Think about that for a minute. Black men represent around 6% of the overall population. They are going to have 100%, potentially of our US men when it comes to the Olympic team that we put on the court next year. And if they don't have 100%, they're going to have 90% or 88% or whatever. The math is overwhelming numbers. That is one of the foremost examples of a lack of diversity at elite positions anywhere in the United States. Yet those guys are the best. If we said we need a men's basketball team that accurately reflects the American population, we would have 60% white guys, we would have 13, 14% Hispanic guys, we would have right around 12%. This is assuming, by the way, that we're willing to acknowledge there's a biological difference and not saying that women should be on the team too, because that would more perfectly reflect the American population, right? But let's say for the US Men's basketball team, we're only going to have men because men are better at basketball than women. That would mean if we did a perfect snapshot of America, you'd have to fire a lot of black guys. In fact, nine, probably black guys on the roster would lose their job and they would be replaced by other basketball players that are not as good. And the result would be our basketball team would perfectly reflect American diversity. Majority white, same number of Hispanic guys as black guys, Asian guy and boy. It would be a cosmetically beautiful photo. But we get our ass kicked probably by a lot of other countries because in trying to perfectly reflect American diversity on our basketball team, we would actually end up with a far less meritocratic team. That is the best players wouldn't actually make the US Men's basketball team. It's a great example for those of you out there that have to deal with DEI all the time in your own jobs. There's no DEI in basketball. Basketball is actually among the least diverse, high earning jobs in America. Nobody points to it, nobody says, hey, what's wrong here? They're getting this wrong. This, this basketball team doesn't look like America. There's way too many black guys on it. You never hear it said. And in fact, if the basketball team looked like America, we'd all be worse. Well, I think you could make that argument in the military too. Don't we want the baddest ass war fighters on the planet to rise to levels of command and to rise to the levels of the most significant ranks in our military? We don't want Admiral Levine, that dude pretending to be a chick, trying to lead our troops. That isn't actually a strength at all. In fact, it's, I would argue, an example of mental illness inside of the military. That that is someone who is in a position of authority. We should want in all facets of American life the absolute best, most talented people with the most significant jobs. We got to bring back the meritocracy in America. And sometimes that might mean that the positions at the absolute apex don't 100% reflect America. There's a lot more Asian dudes working at a high level in Silicon Valley right now than there are Asian dudes in the country. Is that racism? No, it's that those guys have a skill set that they are putting to work in Silicon Valley that vastly over exceeds as a population per capita percentage what you would expect to see. The best men or the best women should be at the absolute apex in this country. That hasn't been true in the military. So I give credit to Pete Hegseth for that speech that he gave. Why I think it's significant culturally is it represents a major pivot point from Joe Biden saying, I'm going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court. I'm going to pick a woman to be my vice president. You're not saying you're picking the best person for the job. You're telling us that you're checking a box and in the process you're actually delegitimizing the people that you are picking. This is a real decision that has to be made. The best man or the best woman, not the best man pretending to be a woman should be on the medal stand when it comes to the end of every sporting event. And the best man or the best woman or some combination thereof should be in leadership everywhere. We're going to dive into this. I want to go back Yesterday. I mentioned J.K. rowling and what I thought was so profound about what she said. I want to dive into that. I'm going to play some of the cuts from my Paul Finebaum interview that went everywhere. Don Lemon and Joy Reed have some thoughts on race in America. And I think you're going to enjoy those. And by enjoy those, I mean you're going to fall off your chairs. You're going to have to grip the steering wheel tighter because you're going to look around and say, I can't believe that this is what passes for thought leadership on the left in this country. But first I want to tell you the two year anniversary of October 7, 2023 in Israel is rapidly approaching and this Sunday you're going to witness a show of support for Israel in this nation you haven't like one you haven't seen in a very long time. Grassroots effort to honor the memory of those lost two years ago in the brutal Hamas terrorist attack. You'll see Israeli flags on display in yards, storefronts, cars, everywhere. It's a movement of support for the people in Israel called the Flags of Fellowship and it's organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Millions of Americans across our nation will display an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the families and victims of that Hamas terror attack. You can be a part of this movement. To go online to IFCJ.org send a message, Stand with Israel. Join the Flags of Fellowship movement. Visit the fellowship online@ifcj.org that's IFCG cj.org saving America one thought at a Time Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free I Hard radio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Yesterday I spent some time talking about how I have so much admiration for J.K. rowling because she is, I would argue, one of the most fearless women in the world, one of the most fearless people on the planet. And you say, okay, what do you mean by that? Clay J.K. rowling became a billionaire because of the Harry Potter books. Once you become a billionaire, you basically have no risk in life remotely anymore if you decide to have an easy life. That is all of the, all of the things that most of us worry about on a day to day basis. They're all eliminated from your life as a billionaire. I'm not saying that everything in life is perfect when you have a certain amount of money because health can be an issue, your family's health can be an issue. There are lots of things that no matter how much money you have, there can still be issues in your life. But in general, billionaires do not have the same concerns that you and me and most of the rest of us would have. And what has often frustrated me is lots of billionaires may Agree with everything I say on this radio program or everything you think out there listening. But they're so concerned about what other people think about them that they don't say what they really think. And to me, the only reason to have money is to have no constraints on what you are able to say, because otherwise you're just putting on a pair of golden handcuffs. You ever hear that phrase, golden handcuffs? Such an interesting phrase. I never heard it because I didn't grow up with substantial amounts of money. The first time I ever heard it was in law school because young lawyers, you come out and you make a lot of money. And I remember somebody saying, the money's great, but really it's just a form of golden handcuffs. Somebody a little bit older than me. I said, what do you mean, so? Well, in order to make that money, you are selling your labor to the law firm, and you are giving up much of your life in exchange for the money that they're going to give you. You don't have as much freedom when you become a young lawyer as you do when you're a law student now. You have way more money, but you have way more responsibilities, way more obligations. And I bet a lot of you, as you have grown in life, have come to understand that concept. Maybe you bought a house that's a little bit too much expensive for you. That's a form of golden handcuffs. It's a beautiful home, but can you pay the mortgage every month? Maybe you bought a car that's a little bit too expensive. Oh, it looks good. Oh, can you imagine what the girls are going to think when you pull up at the bar in this one? Can you imagine what everybody in the neighborhood's going to think when you're rolling down the street in that car? Oh, but you know, there's a pretty big payment that comes with that car. It's golden handcuffs. Maybe you got a kid and you're excited because they just got into a good college or a good private school, but you're looking at that tuition bill. It's golden handcuffs. You have to keep working harder and harder. Your things may be getting nicer, but you don't really feel that free because your expenses often are growing at the same rate as your income, sometimes exceeding it. So you'll look back and you'll be like, man, I. I thought if I ever made twice as much money as I do now, I'd be fine. But somehow you have just as little money making twice as much money as you did before, Right? And there are all sorts of Financial consultants out there that'll say, oh well, it's all about budgeting and there's a lot of truth to that. But in life, metaphorically, if you are too concerned about what people think about you, you are putting golden handcuffs on yourself because you may not speak out and say what you really think. And it seems to me a lot of billionaires do that. And that's why I am so impressed with J.K. rowling. She could have just done the Hollywood circuit where everybody kisses her ass for the rest of her life. She could have just relaxed on the fact that she wrote this seven book series, Harry Potter and they built this fabulous Universal Studios world Harry Potter, which is truly unbelievable and spectacular. If you got young kids who like to read these books, an entire generation of kids she inspired to read, she could have just kind of rode on the path of genius and wealth and only people would have said nice things about J.K. rowling for the rest of her life. She was on that path. But she saw this gender insanity and she said, I can't stay quiet about this. She saw everybody suddenly arguing, men can become women. And she was the person who said, actually that's not true. You ever notice how you've probably been in a room where somebody has said something that you know is not true and most people won't call it out. You may been at, maybe it was at church, maybe it was at business, maybe it was at a PTA meeting. Somebody says something that everybody knows is untrue, but everybody just feels like they have to stay quiet cuz they're afraid of everybody looking at them. J.K. rowling was like, I actually, I, I dissent right? If you watch Curb your Enthusiasm. One of the funny things about the Larry David series, which I love, even though he's a super left wing liberal, is that he actually says a lot of what everybody else thinks. I think I have an element of that in my, in my life. What J.K. rowling did though is super rare. Men can become women. Oh yeah, yeah, this is. Oh, good for you. You go girl. She said, no, no, this is actually not true. And worse than that, it's actually anti feminist. When you say a man can become a woman and the first flipping year he's a woman, he gets woman of the year. It's not even the first movie he was in. He's got a penis. He can't be the woman of the year. What are you chicks doing? You're crazy. A lot of women just went along with it. J.K. rowling said, no excuse Me, this is not right. And this Emma Watson, Hermione Granger, for all of you out there who watch the movie, she's been going after J.K. rowling for years now over these gender issues. And yesterday, J.K. rowling was woke up and she just said, I'm sorry, I'm going to end this bitch. And I got to read some of what she tweeted yesterday, because this is 100% true. Last night when I was getting ready for bed, I turned to my wife. We're getting. Or lights are out almost. I pull my. I was like, did you see what J.K. rowling said about Emma Watson? Wife's like, no, I. I didn't see it yet. And I was like, well, let me just read some of this for you. That because I went back last night before I was going to bed to reread this because it was so well said. And I just want to hit you with a couple of these segments. Um, Emma Watson and her co stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. This is the words of J.K. rowling. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work or violence or death because of them. But she says Emma and some of the other kids that grew up on the Harry Potter set have ripped her to shreds. And she says years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of the de facto spokespeople for the world I created. Some of these sentences, I mean, are just. Again, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created, says J.K. rowling. I think she may have a future in writing. I think she may one day be able to make a decent living when you've not. This is J.K. rowling continuing. When you've known people since they were 10 years old, it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big, scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma. I told the producers I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said. And then she continues, Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence, I'm so sorry for what you're going through. She has my phone number. This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak. At a time when my personal security measures had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety, Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames and yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness. And then this paragraph. Buckle up. Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her public bathroom is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed sex changing room at a council run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state run rape crisis center that refuses to guarantee an all female service to find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison? I wasn't a multimillionaire at 14. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated, means to women and girls. Without her privileges, adults can't expect to cozy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a free friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public. But I have the same right and I finally decided to exercise it. Holy crap. That thing has 58 million views right now on Twitter. And the reason I wanted to share it was twofold. One, we need more J.K. rowlings. More people who are fearlessly willing to stand for what, what is right. Particularly those of you out there. And this is directly addressed to you who have the money and wherewithal to do so. Why are you such cowards? Why do you continue to try and stay behind the scenes because you're worried about what people might say to you when you know that they are wrong. Two, I think there are a lot of you that are parents and grandparents that can particularly connect with what J.K. rowling said there. You have gone through struggles that your kids and your grandkids, if you are fortunate enough to have built for them, can never even comprehend. They don't even know what they don't know. And I just, I love, I've never met J.K. rowling. I don't know that I ever will. But when I read that, it is so perfectly said on so many different levels that I wanted to make sure that I shared it with all of you. We'll link it on Clay and Buck, but I think if you go read it for yourself, most of us are not going to write best selling novels and become multi billionaires, but all of us in our lives are going to be dealing with young people who are oftentimes standing on the shoulders of giants and they have no idea that that's what's going on. Another way of putting it is they're standing on third base and they think they hit a triple. They've got no idea what actually has to happen in life for them to have had the opportunity they have been given. So earlier in the show I came out against Di. I'm also against people who haven't achieved anything thinking that they are the greatest in their line of work. As she said, she had no money when she wrote the book that made Emma Wat, Emma Watson famous. So well said, J.K. rowling. Again, I wanted to make sure that I read that for all of you because I see it as a personal opportunity to challenge all of you out there with the resources like J.K. rowling. You're listening right now. You're watching right now. Where's your spine? Where is your bravery? Why is J.K. rowling willing to put everything that she has on the line to stand for truth and you are still hiding in the shadows because you're worried about what some charity board's gonna say. If you come out and speak the truth, I hope you can have some of the bravery just a smidge that J.K. rowling showed in that post and that she has shown in the past several years of her life. A challenge from her to all of you. Look, there are certain documents you always want to have in order. Annual tax returns. Going through that right now, your kids properly registered for all the things that they do. That's a constant challenge. The parent having a will and a trust in place. 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Buck Sexton
So how do we unk you?
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Clay Travis
Get more people to subscribe to our YouTube channel. At least that's what my kids tell me.
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Buck Sexton
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Welcome in. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already. And you will be glad that you did. You can also go subscribe to us on YouTube. You can find us basically on any social media platform under the sun and you can check out the first couple of hours of the program. Buck is in Taiwan. He will be back on Monday. In the meantime, we are joined. We're headed up to DC for this third hour and we are joined now by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. And let's dive right into it. Is there gonna be a shutdown? And if so, Senator, how is it gonna impact the average listener of hours out there right now?
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
So, Clay, thanks for having me on. And yes, I don't see there's any way in the world we can avoid a shutdown. The you know, Chuck Schumer is so scared of AOC in his own state running against him that he's willing to hold the American people hostage. Because what we're doing here is we're putting a clean cr. Clean CR means that's the same funding, same language that Chuck Schumer voted for six months ago and the same language he voted for a year ago. So this nothing has changed that. He voted already twice on this same funding package. Except now he's been threatened that if he votes for it from the left that they're going to primary him And AOC is either going to run against him or going to find somebody run against him. So he's running scared and he's holding American people hostage over it. If that happens and we do go to a shutdown, which Clay, I don't see there's any way we avoided at this point. I think we're going to Chuck Schumer shutdown. It's not really going to affect anybody for the first two weeks. And it depends on what is deemed essential and non essential. That's the President's discretion at the time. But for those in the military, they get paid October 1st, all their paychecks will still go out, they'll be paid in full. On the second is when federal employees get paid, their paychecks are already processed, they will go out and they will be paid in full. All Social Security benefits, Medicare, Medicaid benefits will still be intact, still be moving forward. Because that's discretionary or that's mandatory spending, not discretionary. We're fighting over discretionary spending at this point. And so the. But in two weeks on the October 15th and 16th, if we are still shut down, then federal employees and military won't be paid. Because why? Because you have a career politician, Chuck Schumer, who has decided that his job is more important than keeping the American people in a government funded.
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Clay Travis
What is the dispute over right now in a succinct way.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
So as quick as you can put it there is the dispute is really over their hatred towards President Trump. So the question is what is their demand? Their demand on funding levels, by the way, that they've already voted for already twice. And they voted for a CR 13 times underneath Biden. The difference now is Trump's in office and they want to slow walk any policies that he has. Regardless that the American people elected President Trump and kicked out their agenda because it was horrible for America, put President Trump in place in November. What their demand is now is they want to extend a policy that they had put in place during COVID that they could have made permanent but they knew that it was temporary to basically subsidize ACA affordable health care, which you know, affordable healthcare is supposed to be affordable. Right. But during COVID they put a subsidy in that waived all requirements, meaning there was no proof of citizenship, there was no proof of income that you needed help or anything. Everybody was eligible for this subsidy and they and they funded insurance companies to allow them to sign up people unchecked. And this is a tune of about $350 billion to the taxpayers now. Covid is over. And they intended for this to shut down to begin with because they sunset it. They were in control of the government at the time, complete control. They could have made it permanent. They wanted to. They decided not to. And so now they're saying that they want this extended. And we're saying, wait, Covid is over. Why do we need to be paying a subsidy to insurance companies now that are making record profits, which I'm all about people making profits. But why are the taxpayers still subsidizing that? And why are we allowing illegal aliens to get these benefits for free? Because those that came here legally, they should be getting shipped back. That's what the American people voted for in November. But this extends that that covers them. Why? Because there's no checks and balances to say if they're eligible or not. They just automatically get enrolled into Obamacare. And that's what Chuck Schumer is fighting for. So basically, to still have taxpayers pay for these illegals to have health care insurance.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Inevitably, these issues eventually decided. And by the way, along with virtually everybody listening right now, what Democrats are seeking is absurd. Do you think we'll have a resolution before October 15, before individuals paychecks could be impacted?
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Well, you know, I always tell people I'm good for a big fight and a good fight as long as I know what victory looks like and it's possible to win. But if you go into a fight, which is what the Democrats are doing here, what does victory look like for them? Because it's hard for them to explain that a clean CR that they've already supported twice, why they wouldn't what's different today than it was a year ago or six months ago. So I would assume they would come to their senses before that. But you can't reason with crazy. And that's what Chuck Schumer is right now. He's crazy. He's running scared. You got to keep in mind, in 1996, when I was a senior in high school, which was 29 years ago, Chuck Schumer then was a congressman. He went on the House floor enrolled against benefits going to illegal aliens that came in this country illegally. That was in 1996.
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Now he's willing to shut down the government as a senator and as a Democrat leader over giving benefits to illegals. So you can't rationalize with that kind of thinking. So I would assume that people, you know, cooler heads would come to the come to the table and they would Accept the clean cr. But I. You can't at this point. You can't rationalize what they're even thinking here. You can't. Is that my mama said you can't argue with crazy.
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Clay Travis
I think that's well said by your mama. By the way, also, we're around the same age and a lot of Democrat talking points in the 90s are actually Republican talking points now for people like Chuck Schumer who were involved long enough. I mean, Bill Clinton, heck, 1992, would be a Republican now. I mean, in all seriousness, if you.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Go back and look at it, Democrat Party for sure.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. When you look at the, what happened in, in the November election about 11 months ago, Trump won a landslide, won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, kicked Kamala's ass coast to coast. Democrats had two choices. One, they could look in the mirror and they could say, as I think a lot of people try to do. I don't know. I know you were involved in sports back in the day. Sometimes you get beat and you say, boy, we really beat ourselves. We didn't execute the game plan we had. You know, we turned the ball over too much. If we had played like we expect to play, we would have won. Your game plan then you just have to go execute it better. Other times you get your ass kicked and you're like, boy, that seems a lot better than us. And either we're going to have to change our game plan, change the trajectory, or we're just going to keep getting our ass kicked going forward. Seems to me that Democrats had a choice, Senator. They could look in the mirror and say they heard our message, they didn't like it, and we got beat accordingly. Or, or they could say we just got a double and triple and quadruple down on crazy. It seems like they chose the second option, which just means they're going to keep getting their ass kicked, probably even worse.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Well, to use your sports analogy, it's like the kid that gets beaten wrestling, because wrestling is our family, and you get beat and you blame it on the ref every time. And you don't realize it's probably your practice habits and it's your Internet, your training partners, and it's what you put in that you're not getting back out, and so it's easier to blame somebody else. And so you double down on the blame game. Well, that's exactly what's happening here. You're absolutely correct. Instead of them taking a licking and looking back, as we call it, Oklahoma, right, you take a licking. That's when you get beat, when you get, when you get beat and take it and looking back and going, wow, some of the best lessons learned is when you lose. Because if you, if you reevaluate it and you can learn what you did wrong, correct it, you only be stronger and better or you double down and. And blame somebody else. They're blaming the American people, the Democrats. They're blaming the American people, saying, you got it wrong. You got it wrong. You didn't understand what you voted for. You got it wrong. Well, actually, they didn't. They knew exactly what they were voting against because they had four years of it. They had four years of embarrassment from an administration that wanted to go away what all American values have always traditionally stood for. They wanted to go away from what America has stood for and move us towards socialism. And it didn't work. It was an experiment that failed. And so now the left is running this, running the Democrat Party. You could go to JFK and you say the same thing that you did about Clinton. JFK wouldn't belong to this party anymore. And when he says they're the party of jfk, that's not accurate because this party is the party of Madame or however you say his name, you know, a communist socialist. Yeah. This is a party of AOC and Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett that go out there and openly claim to be socialists. This is a party of Tlaib and Omar, who is, you know, who, you know. They go out there and hate America. And I mean that sincerely. And so you go, where's the Democrat Party today? They got beat because of what they stand for. And the polling shows the Democrat Party's least popular now than they've ever been in history. And you have leaders like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries leading them down this, this, this tumbling path of identity crisis.
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Clay Travis
What did you think of? I saw your push up, pull up challenge, which you absolutely crushed. I think it was like 3 minutes and 40 seconds or something, if I remember. And off the top.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Three seconds.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's ridiculous for somebody, anybody, but especially for somebody who's on Capitol Hill. What did you think of Pete Hegseth address to the war fighters of America this morning?
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Hey, man, lead from front right. I used when I was running my companies and building my companies every single day. I told my management team, hey, if you want your employees to show up on time, you need to be there 30 minutes earlier. If you want them there at 7:30, you'd be there at 7. If you want to work late, you work 30 minutes past. They do. If you want them to answer the phone when you call, you better always answer your phone. And by the way, if you want them to show up with a clean shirt and clean pants on every day, then your shirts need to be starched. If we're having. And this is what's always bugged me about coaches, too. Coaches are coaching athletes. They have access to every, every piece of equipment and every trainer that their athletes do. There's no excuse why a coach in football, wrestling, basketball, I don't care what it is that's out of shape when you're trying to get your players and your athletes in shape in the military. You're fighting for the heart of our country. You're fighting for the existence of our country. You're protecting the freedoms of those home and abroad. And we should expect excellence. And if you're going to expect excellence, the generals who's leading from the front need to, need to express that and show that every single day in themselves because they set the standard. And no one's going to lead or meet that standard unless that leader is meeting that standard too. And so whatever your expectations are, you need to put it, you need to set yours higher than what everybody else is below. So I commend Hecseth in saying this. We're going to get our butts in shape. Fat generals and fat admirals walking through the Pentagon is no more. And I commend him for that. I actually sent him a text message. I said, buddy, my chest is pumping with pride for what you just said.
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Clay Travis
Amen, Senator, we appreciate the time. Let us know when you need to come back on. And we appreciate you sharing the Capitol Hill with us.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
Thanks, Clay. See you. Bye.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are joined now by Congressman Steve Scalise. He has been through a lot and we're going to run through all of the, all the things coming up with a big turning point event that he's going to be a part of shortly. But Congressman, I want to start with we haven't had you on since the Charlie Kirk shooting, but you've been a victim of political violence. You almost lost your life while you were preparing for, I believe it was the baseball game, but just practicing with other members of your team. What did you think when you saw the Charlie Kirk video and how much of it created flashbacks for you of what happened to you about eight years ago?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Hey, Clay and Buck, thank you for having me. You know, it was such a tough day. I mean, you know, my gosh, just to, just to see somebody, you know, at the time we didn't know Charlie was, was dead, but you could just see it was something bad happened to Charlie. And that alone was just unearthing, I mean, alarming. And you know, it makes you angry to see that, you know, somebody as talented as Charlie who's out there just talking to people, I mean, you know, encouraging people to debate in a civil way, which is what we all should be celebrating. And the idea that somebody thinks they can just take away a life because they disagree with you politically is insane. And so I had a lot of anger. I had, you know, just a lot of feelings you feel for Charlie personally, for his family? I mean, you know, he's got a young family and I'm thinking all those things. And then obviously along the way, some of the, you know, thoughts go back to 2017 and the shooting, you know, with me and my other colleagues, you know, we had a crazed shooter that went and he wanted to kill every Republican on that ball field. And this idea that you've got these people that think you can solve, you know, your political differences with violence is it's against everything America stands for. And it was just a horrible day in a lot of ways.
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Clay Travis
We're talking with Steve Scalise, he is the House Majority Leader and He's in Louisiana's 1st congressional district. I'll get into what in the world's happened to LSU's offense with you in a moment, Congressman. But you've got a big Turning Point event that you are a part of. What's going on there? What should people know about it? And what is the importance of this event in the wake of, as we were just talking about what happened to Charlie?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Well, I think something just remarkable has come out of a horrible situation, and that is that it really is awoken people to say, wait a minute, we are not going to live in fear. We're not going to allow a voice like Charlie's to, you know, have this movement that Charlie created just end. And in fact, I think the movement is going to grow even stronger. You've seen Eric, Erica, his widow, just powerfully, powerfully talk about how she's going to grow it into something even bigger. And it's really happening. I mean, you know, we've seen, you know, 50 plus thousand young people have said, I want to start a Turning Point chapter on my college campus or high school campus where it doesn't yet exist. And we've seen a lot of Turning Point chapters. You know, lsu, where I went to school, we've got a Turning Point chapter. And Charlie was going to be speaking in just a few days to that campus chapter. And the event will now go on. Our governor, Jeff Landry, is going to be highlighting it. And, you know, it's the old saying, the show must go on. And I think you're going to see a lot more people, including people maybe that never even knew what Turning Point was about, who now have seen it. They've gone back and looked at Charlie's speeches, and he's inspired a whole new generation of people. So this idea they were going to silence him has truly backfired. I mean, I think you've seen the movement already grow stronger and young people will not be silenced. Young people, look, they're sick and tired of these leftists telling them what to do and how to think. And you've got to hate institutions and religion. And it's also brought a new awakening in religion. People going to church for the first time and understanding. And Charlie had such a deep faith in God, as do I. People now are, I think, are maybe getting back in touch with God, too. And that's a good thing.
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Clay Travis
You mentioned the impact that Charlie's having. I interviewed Paul Finebaum. I know you're a college football fan, as was Charlie. And Paul told me he's thinking about running for the Senate in Alabama as a partly a result of what he saw happen to Charlie Kirk. He just, it left him shaken and he wanted to think about what he could do to be the most impactful in his life. I think that you are hearing, as you mentioned, a lot of people from all walks of life, regardless of what their background is, sitting around and thinking, how can I embody the courage that Charlie showed, that you showed after you were shot to help take the country to a better place?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Well, it's so true. And you know, I saw Paul's statements and I think you're going to see a lot more things like that, more people that maybe were on the sidelines or, you know, maybe if you're in media, you know, they might have been scared to speak out because, you know, the culture and media. So yeah, and they're worried about cancel culture. I don't think people are going to be worried about that cancel culture anymore. I think it's reversing the other way where it's, you know, the pendulums do swing in life and in politics. And I think people are disgusted by this idea that, you know, radical leftists can just shut you up if they don't agree with your point of view. They were trying to do it in social media. Those days are over. And I think the days of trying to shut people up are only presenting one point of view in mainstream media are over. Too few people are watching some of those shows anyway that do that. But I think the rest of the public wants free speech, embraces free speech and realizes how much it's threatened by the left. The left, ironically, are the ones who seem to want to shut down free speech and we're not going to let it happen.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Steve Scalise, congressman from Louisiana. What should we know? Succinctly, we talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen earlier this hour. But from your perspective, what should our listeners know about the potential shutdown that would start tomorrow?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Well, we passed a bill through the House two weeks ago to keep government funding at funding the current, current levels. And you're seeing Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the far left fringes that want a government shutdown, not for any particular reason, but just they don't like the results of the election last November and they're far left base. The radicals in the Democrat Party just want to fight with Donald Trump. And a temper tantrum is not an excuse to shut down the government. And Disrupt the lives of millions of people. Think about it. Our men and women in uniform will not get paid. TSA agents won't get paid. You know, federal parks are shut down. A lot of bad things happen and people's lives that get disrupted just because Chuck Schumer wants to have a some kind of bar fight with Donald Trump because he doesn't like the results of the election in November. Think about this. Democrats and Republicans voted for these very same funding levels in March. Nothing's changed since March. Except the far left elements that are about to elect a Marxist in New York City are also clamoring for a government shutdown. And ultimately, it's going to be up to Democrats in Congress. Are they going to feed the craziest voices on the left? Are they going to do the right thing? And the right thing is keep the government funded. This isn't a permanent solution, but at least for seven weeks short term while we negotiate our differences. Clearly, we have differences, but you don't have a tantrum in and disrupt the lives of millions of people during that difference through negotiation. Let's keep government funded at its current levels. The bill's in the Senate, so it's all on Schumer right now. If there's a government shutdown, it's only because Schumer decided to cave to the far left elements of his radical base and disrupt the lives of millions of people. I hope he doesn't do it, and there's a chance that cooler heads will prevail. But right now, Schumer's looking for a shutdown, and we'll see where it goes come tomorrow.
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Clay Travis
All right, right now, the biggest story in the state of Louisiana is not government shutdowns. It is the Tiger offense. So we got a lot of people listening all over the country. But for people who don't know, LSU couldn't stop anybody on defense last year. This year, the offense has vanished. Our buddy Lane Kiffin, I think he's been on the program up at Ole Miss, celebrating a lot of Rebels fans, big rivalry there. Really enjoyed the win. Congressman, you got to solve everything in the world right now. Solve what's going on with your LSU Tigers. What do they need? What's wrong?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Well, you know, give me about another $10 million in nil money.
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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
We can solve it.
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Congressman Steve Scalise
But no, like, I was in Oxford, Mississippi, and it was tough. It was tough being I'm an LSU alum, you know, I love my Tigers and we're going to bounce back, but, you know, we've been having some offensive problems. The last few weeks. And Garrett Nelson is a great quarterback. You could see his numbers from last year. He did have an injury at the beginning of this year. Not sure he's completely through that yet. Once you see him 100%, I think you'll see this team bounce back. We got some tough teams ahead. We still go to Alabama. We have A and M coming in. We go to Vanderbilt, who's undefeated. You know, we've still got some tough games to prove ourselves. And I believe in Coach Kelly. I think they're going to bounce back. Our defense is much better. You know, it's the fcc. I mean, we just lost to the number four team in the nation, so let's not pull the panic button, but let's get better. We can and we have the capability with a great quarterback to do it.
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Clay Travis
The Grove is a spectacular place to go tailgate, watch a college football game. I'm fortunate to have been to a bunch of games there. LSU on a Saturday night is about as good as it gets for people who have never been and may never go to an LSU Saturday night football game. What should they know about what the experience is like?
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Well, first of all, don't deprive yourself of that treat of being in Tiger Stadium at some point on a Saturday night in your life. I mean, it's a box. Everybody needs to check the tailgating alone. You got to go up there early. I mean, just for the food experience. You know, everybody knows what New Orleans food is like. Some of the best food in the world. You have better Cajun chefs at some of the tailgates before the game at an LSU game than you'll get at some of the finest restaurants in New Orleans. It's world class. They take it seriously. And then the game itself, you know, 103,000 incredibly screaming loud fans. You know, you get Garth Brooks playing Colin Baton Rouge on the, on the speakers and man, the crowd goes nuts. It's a scene like no other on a Saturday night in Tiger Stadium. You gotta come. I'll be there. And I think we'll, we'll have to get everybody to check that box on their, on their dance card to come to do that one time in their life at least.
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Clay Travis
No, I've been, It's an amazing time, Congressman. We appreciate the time. Always happy to have you on. Good luck with that Turning Point event and good luck with LSU figuring out what's going on with the offense.
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Congressman Steve Scalise
Hey, go Tigers in a God bless. Let's, let's, let's keep getting this country back on track.
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Clay Travis
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