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David Rutherford Show: America & Israel Strike Iran - What Happens Next?
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David Rutherford
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David Rutherford
bomb the hell out of Iran today. The who, what, where, when, and why and how on the David Rutherford Show. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the David Rutherford show. Again, everybody take a deep breath. Ready? Follow me. Deep. Inhale, slow purse lips. Exhale deep air. Inhale, slow person. Yeah, man, I tell you what, Jordy, the last 36 to 48 hours has been pretty wild. Once again, dude, were you monitoring the situation on X? That's, that's the, that's what they say. Yeah, like, I'm not addicted to X. I'm monitoring the situation. If you ask my, my wife and children, it's like, it's parenting comes intermittently as I scroll through the next outlandish post from one person to the next. You know, I, I, I, I'm glad that we, we waited the 48 hours before we jumped into this thing and, and gave a response or an update and all that. And it just. So everybody recognizes, you know, my main objective on, on this show with Jordy is to bring context to the tsunami of information that is perpetually being just unloaded on us every single day. And, and to hopefully give a few flashbangs of truth in terms of my opinion and my assessment on it. Again, you know, I spent eight years in the teams and two years at Blackwater, four years with the CIA, and then, you know, all other friends and mine that are actively engaged in this fight right now and in a variety of different levels, from DoD to the agency and others. And so my job is to just try and give you some information that you can exhale, breathe in, breathe out, you know, take a knee, face outboard, get a glass of water, and process the totality of what's going on. So. All right, Jordy, let's dig into this. All right, so obviously, the United States in Israel attacked Iran, and this was a coordinated attack. Right? This was. We called ours Operation Epic Fury. Right? Gotta dig. We got some cool names for sure. I saw this hilarious tweet today of some guy who is a British operator who was saying, you know, the awesome difference, you know, between us and the States is like, they have all these cool names, and we have, like, operation ID462. You know, we definitely have some, some cool. I remember the guys when we would do ops that got to title all the ops it was, there was always kind of like this underlying joke of how, how, you know, truly epic a name you could deliver to it. So it's the most important part of the operation. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And Israel called it Roaring Lion. Now, these strikes were a coordinated campaign against the Iranian regime. And these strikes included nuclear facilities, missile bases, air defenses, command centers, government buildings in cities like Tehran, Qam Isfaran, Karmasha, Tabriz, Bandar Abbas, Shiraz and Mashad. High value assassination nations, including Khomeini's compound. Nearly 900 different strikes occurred in the first 12 hours alone, basically suppressing air defenses, retaliatory systems and disrupting their command and control. The Trump administration has said that they've killed 48 Iranian leaders in crew, including their supreme leader, the Ayatollah Ali Khomeini. Also the IRGC commander Mohammed Pakpour, the Defense Minister Aziz Nasharida, army chief Abdul Halerim, moose of I'm butchering these in my, my bad. As well as others like former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Initially they said Khomeini was still alive, but then they've come out and they've admitted that he's done. Now provisional leadership Council has met and they believe that the new person in charge is the IRGC Brigadier General Ahmad Vahadi as the new commander in chief. Now, again, it's critical to understand that Iran has broken up really into two factions. There's the religious faction, which is the supreme leadership, and then there's the political and military leadership too, obviously. So there will be a new ayatollah pronounced probably after the 40 days of automatic mourning they put in place. And then they'll continue to describe how they're going to replace their command and control. This would be much like the same way any of the other countries in the region operate. There's a military leader, there's a, a religious leader. Just like for us, if, you know, if, God forbid, one of our leadership structure was, was assassinated or killed and strikes, we have a natural default setting of who rises to power and who takes over. So, you know, just because we took out the head of the snake, so to speak, doesn't mean that they're going to point new people. All right. You know, some of the things that are critical to understand again, and I did a show about this last week covering some of what's been going on in particular with the build up to this. And it's, it's, it's critical to understand that, you know, the overall conflict with Iran and US has been going back to the early 1950s when we helped overthrow a socialist government in 53, basically instilling a person that the Shah who ended up taking over The Shah's family. The end results for the Iranian people wasn't great. He ended up ruling as a fascist dictator. You know what we're going to do here is, is just play that little clip with Scott Horton talking about this, if you could. Ayatollah on the plane on the way back to Iran from Paris, France. Oh yeah, and he's being interviewed by Peter Jennings. Yeah, who's asking him? So how do you feel about your triumphant return to Iran right now and this kind of thing? Well, I remember even as a kid wondering, but aren't the French our friends? And why would they send the Ayatollah back to Iran to inherit this deadly anti American revolution if that wasn't what America wanted? But the answer is that is what America wanted. The CIA and the State Department had advised Jimmy Carter. All right, he goes on to talk about how the CIA and the State Department end up. They were very influential on Carter suggesting that Khomeini was a friend of ours. And they essentially thought that by allowing him to be installed, to go in and support the Shah, who was losing favor tremendously, that they could basically control this guy and help us. Now obviously there was a tremendous amount of, of backlash once the Islamic revolution took place. We had the hostage crisis, hostage crisis in Iran, which was a crazy fiasco, ended up. Many people believe it was the downfall of the Carter. Reagan comes in, basically says, give the hostages back or we're going to bomb you into Timbuktu. They did after a failed rescue attemption during that time from our special operations. And then, you know what was interesting in the aftermath of Reagan coming back in, we had the whole Iran Contra scandal take place. Now if you really want a really substantial breakdown of this, go try and find Scott Horton. He's not, he's a libertarian, just so you know. So he's very anti war and his whole breakdown of what's been taking place. He's got a great book, Enough Already, which talks about our presence in the Middle east and manipulating the Middle East. A lot of people out there want to believe this is strictly a result of the influence of Israel, when you also got to remember we've had very substantial interest in the Middle east dating as far back to when oil was discovered back in the early 1900s in these regions. And so this is not a singular thing, obviously Israel. There's been a lot of mashups prior to going back 40 years of Netanyahu talking about Iran on the cusp of nuclear weapons two weeks away, five weeks away. So you'd be pretty naive if you didn't believe that, that any organization, any country that has a avowed their desire to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth and the Zionist political infrastructure and Jews in general, you know, they have an existential threat in their backyard. The one interesting piece about all of this is, is obviously it's widely known that Israel does have its own nuclear program. They have since the 1960s. And really getting rid of Iran because we've heard in the past Netanyahu has said, hey, we've got to get rid of these people, to which all of these people have been taken down. Now back to the United States and our, our, our interpretation of what's been happening in, in that country. Right. We were doing the Iran Contra deal by, you know, supplying weapons to both Iraq and Iran for regional conflict between two. We were. So then, you know, we could get weapons that were broke Israel to send over to the Sandinistas down to Nicaragua. You know. And so we have been heavily integrated into Iranian politics, destabilization and political activity for a very long time now as a result of that. Obviously, Iran has, especially after the Islamic Revolution, has come back and waged a pretty consistent covert war through proxies against Israeli and American interests in the Middle East. There was Lebanon bombing, which Trump basically quoted as one of the reasons he also quoted. They were on the precipice of the nuclear strike. Although this past summer in the 12 Day War when we went and bombed, there was multiple messages that came out of our Defense Department as well as Trump saying that we had obliterated their nuclear program in a breakthrough operation. Last June, the United States military obliterated Iran's nuclear weapons program with an attack on Iranian soil known as Operation Midnight Hammer. Which is interesting. What I talked about last week in the show I did where I covered this, where we basically were in these talks again about their nuclear enrichment or their uranium enrichment process and that we had hit that stalemate which was the precipice for what took place. So the conflict we've had with Iran has been needless to say, complex since the 1950s and moving forward, and I'll talk about here at the end of that. So, you know, these strikes are really been centered around reducing the Iranian capacity one to finally get to a nuclear weapon. That's why, you know, I believe it really is an existential threat for Israel, at least in the region for sure. I think there are, have been many, many of the local Gulf states that have said Iran proposes, proposes a real threat as well, now, if you're not familiar, why that's relevant is because, you know, there is a major Shia Sunni divide in the region. In our. During the GWAD in Iraq, there were a lot of American soldiers that were killed, both by Sunni radicals, Islamists, as well as Shiite militias that had partnered with Muktad, Muqtar Al Saud or Insider City. They were using the IRGC to help them construct different types of v bids and IEDs that became very more. A lot more powerful, which killed a lot of American troops. So to think that American fighters are not in a threat is not exactly true. And they have been in a threat. There is some reporting that I saw one news source that said, you know, 47American service members had been killed by Iranian proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, the different militias that we faced in Iraq. So that's all very true. Right. You know, so again, as I go back, this is a very complex issue that has a very substantial historical provocations from both from all sides. Right? From all sides, from America, from Israel, from the Gulf States, from Iraq to Iran, Hezbollah, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood. All of this is in. That's why as. As you begin to try and decipher how you're going to emotionally feel about all of this, it's critical that you really understand the infrastructure of the conflict. And it's very, very complex and has been going on, as I said, in particular with Iran since 1953 and probably before that, in terms of our influence in the region because, you know, prior to, you know, the World War I, these regions were not as defined as you would imagine as either, and, and Persian influence and culture. The region dates back thousands of years, too. So, you know, I just, I just want to predicate, as you begin to make your emotional decisions, which way or the other to. To give yourself some time to understand the true depths of, of these complexities. All right, obviously, the latest Geneva talks on February 28 fell through, and that's when, all right, we're here to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats. Again, we keep going back to this reality of imminent threats. Now, maybe not you sitting in your car listening to this or, you know, on your phone at home listening to this, but certainly we have hundreds of bases scattered all around the Middle East. We have young men and women that are serving over there, and there is a definite potential for danger in all of this. All right, the strikes, they began February 28, shortly after Geneva collapsed. They continued on to March 1 with new waves on Tehran, Khomeini's, death was confirmed by Iranian state media on February 28, triggering 40 days of mourning. Right. Different. A whole different slew. Now, we, we talked a little bit before about the military buildup in the region. As I said, this is the biggest up in the region I had seen since, since the Iraq war buildup. There's been multiple discussions, I think, about carrier groups and, and, and air buildup in different bases in Saudi Arabia, all over the place. And that's all true. Now, hundreds of targets are hit with explosions reported across Iran. Civilian sites were allegedly struck. The one most dramatic one, the. That Iranian TV is suggesting was there was a school that was hit. And that school, originally it was 80 kids, then it moved to 114 kids. And then now the latest I saw was 148 kids, uh, that were killed in this strike. Again, everything you see online, you have to merely make sure this one right here is saying at least 153 dead. And who's, who's that report from? Is that AP? This is. Was it BBC? BBC, yeah, BBC. I wanted Al Jazeer was where I first saw it, and then I looked for a BBC site and their confirming it as well, too. Again, for all of you who say, well, nothing's true on Al Jazeer, that's not real, that's not reality. Do they manipulate their news? Yeah, just like Fox, just like msnbc, just like everybody else. But when you have the videos of it and there's timestamps and, and you have multiple videos, that's where I tend to believe my eyes. We do know something was strike. There has been multiple videos of kids in body bags all banged up. There was a gentleman with a leg that he was showed. So obviously now there's more attacks. Iran has then launched its retaliatory strikes. So right now, the, the what I'm getting as I'm trying to consolidate all this, US Central Command had put out a post today basically saying a lot of what the Iranian regime was saying was false. The biggest one was that one of the aircraft carriers was struck. And that turns out that was not true. But here's some of the list of what I was able to see. All right, 27 US bases in the Middle east in Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, Saudi Arabia were struck. In Israel, cities like Tel Aviv and Jerusalem were struck. All right, ships and ports, the Jebel Ali in Dubai, oil tankers. Apparently this has mobilized some Iranian proxies in Yemen, Iraq, they said they were closed. The Straits of Hormuz, which I'll talk about the economic impact. They're halting oil shipments and trapping 170 vessels now. Six casualties. The US has reported now that they have had multiple casualties. Three US troops have been killed, the first in the conflict, five seriously wounded. They say that nine people have been killed in Israel, 201 dead and 400, 747 injured in Iran, deaths in the Gulfs there and some of the other places in Bahrain and some of the others. Now Jordy, if you could show some of the impacts in those videos I sent you. Multiple hotels were struck overseas. That gentleman right there from CNN is, is talking about strikes in Iran and you can see some of the damage in the background. There's another, the Burj and Dubai was struck. You'll be able to see that there was another massive explosion I think. And there you go, there's the Burge. You can see the bottom portion of it on fire. There was, there was another strike that took place near the tallest, the tallest building, the bird. What is that? The Burj Khalifa. Then there was a bunch of other strikes on, on civilian areas as well too. That one right there, where does it say that one was from? Jordan. This is in Bahrain. Yep. All right, so you can see the strike in Bahrain on a apartment complex. So it would appear that Iran is, is sending, you know, they're, they're doing limited strikes back and they're attacking military installations, civilian sites, city centers in, in, in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem.
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David Rutherford
the challenge now is really to try and understand, right, what is this going to do? What is this going to do to the region? What is the outcome? Now I sent you there's a video of, of Bibi Netanyahu basically talking to the Israeli people, talking to the world really. And in his thoughts he is expressing, hey, listen, people of Iran, we have freed you from the disastrous, treacherous terrorist Ayatollah Khomeini. And now he's trying to influence, I think through whatever work they're doing on the ground in, in Iran to have the people rise up. Now that rise up is not taking place. Jordy, if you could show the, the video of the large group. I'm not sure which country it is or which city in Iran, but there's a large group of people out there that are responding accordingly and are protesting the, the strikes. Now that's not a small group of people who are basically saying, hey, we stand with the regime, we stand with our Islamic leadership, we stand with the irgc. And that's significant. Now there are other reports of people cheering in the streets in different countries in Europe and different places around the world. They even showed some video of, of, of in Iran itself, people reacting and probably those who were protesting a few months ago to say, but again, Iran is a country of 94 million people, right? This is not the same as Iraq. It's certainly not the same as Afghanistan. This is a culture and, and a region that it's like the, the longest continuous civilization in, on the planet in terms of the Persians and their devotion to Islam. So to imagine that somehow, some way, just miraculously, there's going to be this phenomenal uprising, the overthrowing of the government and that's going to be great and everything's going to work out hunky dory. And within the next six months we're going to have democracy in Iran. I just don't see how that's possible. But I'll talk again at the end. All right, I've got a video here of a CIA case, long term CIA guy, case officer, care cow who goes around. He's been on a lot of the podcasts out there and in this interview he's talking about a gentleman who is actually the son of the former Shah and what they want to do. And I think this is being led by people in our government, certain groups in our government within Trump circle and definitely by the Israelis that this is the guy who should then go in and take over. So if you would just listen to Kirk how and his explanation here now,
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Kirk How
Reza Pahlavi is the son of the Shah of Iran, who was, who was thrown out of Iran in early 1979. February of 1979, came into exile briefly in the United States. That led to the Iran Hostage Crisis. Then we forced him out to the Bahamas and then to Panama and then to Egypt. And he died in Egypt. Reza Pahlavi is the son. He was a young guy when this happened. He was, you know, a teenager. Well, now he's in his 60s and he's never been to Iran since the 1970s. He's also something of a playboy in the Washington area. He's not a player in Iranian exile circles, but he seems to have a whole lot of money. Well, over the last couple of weeks, several things have happened. Number one, the Israeli government spilled the beans and they admitted that they have been financing him. So is he a Mossad asset? You bet he's a Mossad asset. Ok. Mossad is saying it.
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David Rutherford
All right. You know, I think when you think, when you listen to him talk, obviously this is a guy that supposedly was in the, in the know, he had served in the Agency for a long time. But again. Right. We always want to take it with a grain of salt. I have not seen the, the, the sources that he was talking about is that the, that Israel has come out and say they were helping fund this guy's lifestyle or anything like that. But it would make sense, right? It would make sense that if you do have a guy that you have been financially supporting and controlling, if you could put him in the government of, of Iran, that would be very beneficial to you. So who's going to take over and why? Again, I talked about it a little bit in the beginning and I, and I think, you know, again, there are just the hierarchy of the food chain of who wants to rise into power of Iran is no short. There's no shortage of people just like in the United States, man, everybody's jockeying for position at all times in every way to see how one catastrophe a piece or chaos can leverage them to move up the food chain. Well, guess what? Chaos is the greatest opportunity to gain power because when things are nuts, so that's what's taking place. All right, you know, as I sat back and I, and I, what I wanted to be able to do and, and this goes back to, you know, growing up with my dad, who's the, you know, the, you know, five decades of lawyer in them and influence on me. One thing he always just said, David, when you're unsure, write out a pros and cons list. And so that's what I've tried to do. Right. And what are the pros and cons of the US Israel strikes on Iran. Okay. The great pro right now for us in particular is it establishes, it's a continuation that establishes us as one of the true world superpowers. Right. It's the FAFO style of diplomacy that, that seems to be at the core of the Trump administration and how we want to wield that power. Right. Very overt limited strikes that change the course of power, the power hierarchy in different places and, and then basically take a step back, see what happens. Strike, take a step back, see what happens happens. Strike, take a step. Now if this pretty much for any other country in the world other than Russia and China has got to be a pretty destabilizing reality. Right. In particular for Iran right now. They're, they're, they're taking the biggest heavies, but we're also seeing, you know, a restructure of power in central South America, all over the place. So I think in terms of the pros, it continues to establish, it continues to put people on their back heels. Our, our political allies, our political enemies. No shit. People are afraid of Donald J. Trump. Right. This guy will is not hesitant to use the, the world's leading military powers at any dropper, intelligence powers at the, at the drop of a hat. Right. And it's not a drop of the hat. That's an overestimation. These are the result of a long term developing strategy, I think that just morphs from one political party to the next and how it takes place. I mean, pretty much everybody's trying to figure out how to deal with Iran for very long periods of time. In particular since 79. All right, so the other big thing I think it benefits for the pros are it really degrades Iran's, Iran's influence in the region in terms of their proxies with Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis. It really, I think especially now that they're attacking other Gulf states, it can kind of drive these Gulf states into a greater symbiotic relationship that says basically, hey, we don't like Iran, we don't like their, what they're doing. This is great for us. And that can consolidate, you know, our ability to utilize their bases in order to launch continued strikes. The other is, and I saw just recently the, the prime minister of Germany come out and basically say, hey Tehran, stop doing what you're doing. So as we've noted over the last several months, the European Union has pretty been anti Trump At a high level. And so the ability to see the. The reality of seeing the. The German Chancellor come out and say, hey, Tyron, stop what you're doing. It lets me know, hey, man, this is a different game. This is a different guy. We gotta kind of do our loose support. Keir Starmer's response was. Was interesting. He basically was saying, we need to stop a loss of life. This needs to end quickly. And if I had, you know, 40 million Muslims in my country, I think I'd say something along those lines too. I don't think it's 40 million there, but it's certainly 40 million in Europe, for sure. Look up how many Muslims are in England right there. I saw this stat the other day. All right. The other, you know, is it definitely affects in a positive way Israel with Israel. Israel's desire to want to have total control over the globe of the regional hegemony. I think it definitely puts Israel in the driver's seat. You got that number? What is it? According to the most recent official Census data from 2020. Oh, this is from 2021. This is probably more. About 3.8 million people in England identify as Muslim, which is roughly 6.7 of England percent of England's population. So I'm guessing you got to hit what, 10 by now? Yeah, somewhere around then. When Was those dates? 21. 2021 dates, yeah. 20, 21, yeah. And so they had a massive flood in the last four years for sure. So you go 10 in England, 10 in. In France. You know, you add Those, it's like 40 million Muslims in, In the European Union, which could cause. Have profound impact. So, you know, it's interesting to see. All right, and, and so Israel will definitely have a greater leverage, if you will, in the region as a result of. Of. Of impeding Iran's military capabilities and in particular nuclear capabilities. Uh, we definitely. And a nuclear weapon, Iran is not a good thing. And again, let me repeat that again. I am not a fan of Iran having a nuclear weapons. I'm not a fan of really anybody other than the major powers having them. But again, you know, it's. Nuclear power is, Is inevitable. It's going to continue to come, it's going to continue to grow, and it's going to continue to be a problem. All right, what were the cons? All right, for me, the greatest cons to this is the destabilization of Iran. Again, as I said, It's 90 million plus people. These are people that are deeply Persian, they're deeply loyal to each other, Their regions And so a breakdown of that region in a civil war or even to intensify their desire to go support, you know, whatever emerges out of what's taking place. I think for you to believe that there's more people in Iran that support this, this, you know, toppling the regime than, than do. I don't think you're being honest with yourself. I've, I've, I've never seen that. I, I know. Patrick. Bet David is saying that going on TV, like, you know, really hammering this home, that, that 80% of the Iranian people don't want a supreme ayatollah. They want to get rid of it. I, I don't know where he comes up with that number. I don't know why. But again, he is Iranian. They left Iran back in the day. So, you know, maybe he's got inside track, maybe done. But 80% is a high number. That's seems kind of fishy like what they told us about Iraq as well too. As soon as we get rid of Saddam, the whole country will, you know, rise up in support of democracy, whatever the turned out there. Right. And this again is a bigger context for me in particular is the con we've done this regime change that I was a part of for the last, you know, 20 plus years. And what were the results of all these things? Now I think we're gonna. Jordy and I were talking about doing a show on the aftermath of regime change taking place, you know, maybe the last 60 or 70 years and what the outcomes, how they affected everybody. Because we, we 100% know that Iraq and Afghanistan were not a positive net gain for the United States of America. Certainly it was for, you know, obviously the military industrial complex with $8 trillion spent certainly, I think, broke regional groups and certain political groups in the region benefited from the destabilization of those countries for sure. But it did not benefit me, my friends, their families and our budget crisis. All right. And you gotta imagine too that these people who are surviving, that are in these, the irgc, that are part of this Islamic fanaticism, they're not just going to be all of a sudden like, oh, it's over. We need to convert or conform. We need to get in line. I think what you have is you potentially have a much worse reaction than bin Laden and the Sunni reaction. I think Persians are much more diversified in their intelligence networks around the world. I think there's many more sleeper cells all over the world, in London, in Europe and the United States, for sure. In fact, just yesterday, tragically, in Austin Texas. And if you could pull up that, that video for me there, Jordy, in Austin, a beer, a famous bar and beer garden was shot up by a person. Okay? And then there's another video I sent you of, of some woman doing CPR in the bar. Okay? So there, you see, you know the, the facts. There were three people killed and 14 that were injured. And the early reports is this guy was an Islamist of some kind. We don't know much about his background quite yet. By the time you see this, there'll be a ton of information. There's a report he had a Quran, he was wearing a sweatshirt for Allah. You know that this guy. So again, you know, that's. Is it a Hezbollah cell? Is it a Hamas cell? We don't know. But what we do know is someone was so angered by the strikes that he went up to a bar and he started shooting up the place. Now, if you're familiar with Sarah Adams, maybe we'll have her on back here in the next week or two to discuss all this. You know, she's been predicting these types of attacks. Now, is this the size of an October 7th attack she's talking? Oh, this seems like a gut reaction to this, but again, this is what we're going to start to face and this is going to take place in a lot of different places. So I think that's the epitome of the cons, right? The power vacuum, the vengeance, the destabilization of the region and then who takes over and how radical will they be in the future? All right.
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global economic stability versus interim stability. You know, I think there's an initial surge of exporters with oil, but obviously there's also reports that there's going to be a 20% increase in oil. We're not really sure what's going to take place. We did see that they're trying to shut down the Straits of Hormuz. So it's yet to be seen how that, well, that will. If oil goes up 20%. This is Trump's crowning thing in his economic ability. Besides the, you know, 55, 50,000 stock market or you know, the market 50,000, the Dow's 50,000. So, you know, that could really affect the economic impact on Americans as well as making them more in danger. Stock markets have seemed to be affected by this. We'll see as international trade opens up early this morning and what, what it looks like next week. All right. The other aspect of this is in my opinion is really that it, it's going to essentially, really have a negative impact on the UN Security Council. And once again now, if you believe Trump, Trump has essentially pulled out of all the climate accords. The WHO he's talked about pulling out a NATO. You know this, the UN Security Council is already coming out and saying this is not great, we need to, to do this. You know, this. They, they talk about the exposure of hypocrisies, right. Debates reveal inconsistencies, condemning UN, UN's at the US's actions, but not Iran's. You know, and then there's also the interesting reality that if this is really about nuclear power, does the UN Security Council come back and say, all right, well now we need Israel to have their, to fully disclose their nuclear program. If this is about nuclear instability in the region. Right. And how's that going to affect them? Obviously it's going to be interesting to see how China reacts, Russia reacts, some of these other groups in the U. N. Security Council and what takes place. Because if, in my opinion, I think this is going to give Trump the perfect opportunity to be like, hey, UN right here, we're out. We're not going to listen to you. We're not. And, and when you look at the UN and some of the things that have come down, it's really seems kind of ineffectual as it is anyways. All right, the cons, another big con about this geopolitically, this is obviously going to, you know, piss Russia and China off in particular China, there's reports that they get about 80% of their petroleum from Iran. So that's going to have an impact on them, you know, so it'll be interesting to see what takes place. Now, the big ones, these are the big ones. What are the domestic ramifications for our political system with Donald J. Trump and his, his troops? Now obviously, if you're on X like I am, there's been this massive reaching out. Right, good. Get rid of this terrible regime. You know, they were, they wanted to kill Americans. They chanted death to America. They were actively in cums. They wanted to, if you listen to Mark Levine, he basically the other day was saying they have nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistlers that are going to strike America. America. I don't know how accurate that is, but that's what he's saying. And he has some pretty good inside baseball because he's, you know, we saw him recently next to Trump on a multitude of levels. All right, the other problem with, with this is I think the biggest political reaction on the other side is Trump promised no new wars. And although this doesn't seem like a war but a more of a strategic conflict, the outcry of no new wars was profound. You know, there's a lot of people saying that Israel is running our foreign policy. I don't believe that. I think Trump knows what he's trying to do in terms of his overall power on this and what his outcomes. But obviously there's definitely influence in some capacity with Israel. Otherwise, you know, he wouldn't potentially justify the split of his base which really got on board. Now a lot of people are saying screw all those people who are crying wolf because they were libertarians, they were, you know, Blue Dog Democrats that were sick of the censorship and the transgender ideology. So they weren't really with us anyways. And then all these other people right here of this group, like they're actually Nazis and crazies and they're not a part of us. They're, you know, they're, you know, whether it's Tucker or MTG or, or Thomas Massie, Rand Paul, whatever it is, they are not true MAGA people and we should, you know, we should exile them as it is. Well, those people have a lot of influence in the MAGA base. They really do. They were there with Trump from the beginning. Tucker Carlson campaigned with him. So if you think that his audience is going to just bend over and, and get on board with a new engagement in Iran, then you're solely mistaken. You know, the other thing that we saw today is We've seen a lot of people, Representative Mullins, or I think he's at the UN now, and a lot of senators and congressmen who are coming out and saying, you know, hey, we grieve for the families of those killed overseas. We support you and you know, you even have the let's all rally behind our dead service members. But again, that's a slippery slope, I'm telling you. Is it necessary that, you know, I think what it all kind of falls back to is what, is, what is the plan and is the plan gonna benefit stability in the region? Is the plan gonna benefit stability for us politically? Is the, is the, the, the, the targeting, Is it gonna increase our security profile for Americans around the world and at home? Is it going to increase the security for our bases around the world? Is it going to increase the security for those young men and women that are on those ships and in those planes and, and all those engagements? And the, the reality is, no, it doesn't eat. No matter. You can talk to your till you're blue in the face that this is a long term positive reaction to get rid of the Ayatollah Khomeini and take out the regime. And you can keep telling yourself, but the same two things can be true, which is, yeah, it might be good to knock down their ability to get nuclear weapons, but it's also gonna enrage and create more people that hate the United States and more people that want to attack our way of life. That's the way it is. Just like you look at Iraq. Did, did Iraq get more in terms of, in line for us in America? Did Afghanistan. Is Afghanistan with us? Hell no. They're in a war with Pakistan right now. And speaking of that, the other residual effects we've already seen, there were attacks in Pakistani, in the consulates and a couple of the consulates. There were attacks in Iraq against the consulates too. So if you think like it's just going to go away and there aren't people, State Department personnel, intelligence personnel, families that live out in town and bay in, in housing, if you don't think that all of them are under heightened threat to be killed, captured beheaded on television as a result of this, then you're naive and you're not being honest with yourself. And so what I want to hear is a distinct strategic reality that they believe is going to take place after this. But again, from what I've witnessed in my own obsession with geopolitics for the last 30 years and my own active participation in those geopolitics and the teams, Blackwater and the Agency, and then the impact that it's had on my dead friends, their families, their wives, their children. The track record is not great. So I'm praying we got a great plan. I'm praying the President understands how to handle this in the next coming weeks and days. I'm praying it doesn't escalate into a full male, full scale major war. But that's yet to be seen. All right, so if you enjoyed this, please, like, share. Leave a comment. Share it with your friends. Share it online. Check out us on X and Tick Tock and Instagram. We're there at the David Rutherford show on X. It's at D. Rutherford show. Follow me. I've been posting a lot on, on X, at Team Frog Logic, on On the Gram, at Team Frog Logic, and go follow us and, and share it with other people. Again, our main objective for you, our mission is to contextualize the massive amount of information and complexity of this situation so that you can have a better understanding to, to, to. To conjure up an opinion that's built on the totality of the situation and not just on your favorite poster on Hex. All right, now, before we, we check out, I just want to. Some great memes are coming out of this. The first one I want to show is phenomenal. It's the President in his new band. Pull that up for us, Jordy. This. I saw this and I literally fell out of my chair. Okay, play this sucker. You gotta have a little bit of humor in things in times like this. Absolutely. Go ahead. All right, all right, all right. So if you go, if you can't laugh at that, man, you, you got no sense of humor. Obviously, in dark times, we need dark humor to lift us up. All. All right. The other one is. This is awesome. And, and God bless. The JD Vance memes are some of my favorite. So pull up this little AI clip right here that someone produced of, of JD this is phenomenal too. Holy cow, dude, he's ready. The music too. So perfect. Again, you know, a little dark humor with the magnitude of craziness that's going on in the world. And you know, just at the end, you know, just pray, I guess, is the best thing you can do. Hope we can get out of this. Hope it doesn't escalate. These are really weird, bizarre times. There's a lot of kinetic going on. But again, just try and, you know, take that deep breath in, nice, slow, pursed out, and realize that history itself is always more complicated than it seems. Typically, we hope steady minds will make better decisions and we can end this conflict and get back to some relative. I guess I always have to say relative. Relative peace and stability in the world. But. But I'm not going to hold my breath too long on that. Exhale. All right, everybody, thank you so much. God bless you. God bless your families and thank Christ and thank you all for paying attention to the show. Hoo yah.
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