David Rutherford Show: Bondi Beach Attack, DOJ Breakdown, Bongino Walks Away | Week In Review

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – David Rutherford Show: Bondi Beach Attack, DOJ Breakdown, Bongino Walks Away | Week In Review

Date: December 19, 2025
Hosts: David Rutherford, Jordy Allen
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview:

This episode of the Week in Review on The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (hosted by David Rutherford and Jordy Allen) takes an unfiltered, passionate dive into the week’s top political and cultural stories. The show tackles topics including the devastating terror attack at Bondi Beach, shifts within the Department of Defense, high-profile attempts at reputation rehab amongst politicians, and the abrupt departure of Dan Bongino from the FBI. The hosts combine sharp commentary, humor, and heartfelt reflections on American society and global threats.

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Main Themes & Discussion Points

1. Christmas Reflections and Family Traditions

[03:32 – 11:06]

• David Rutherford opens with a humorous and self-deprecating monologue about his struggles with holiday rituals.

• He likens his failed attempts at Christmas decorations to the current, chaotic state of America.

• Emphasizes the importance of focusing on family and meaningful time over material aspects during the holidays.

  "My message to all of you is don't get too distracted by the rituals of the material aspects of Christmas itself and really just get focused on spending good quality time with your family while they make comprehensive fun of you." — David Rutherford [11:06]

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2. Terror Attack at Bondi Beach, Australia

[16:33 – 28:19]

• Detailed coverage of the deadly Hanukkah by the Sea shooting in Bondi, targeting the Jewish community, resulting in 15 deaths including a child.

• Analysis on the attackers’ background (father and son, foreign-born and trained, recent travel to an insurgency region).

• Critique of police response and praise for civilian heroism in preventing more casualties.

• Broader warning about the vulnerability of Western societies to terror attacks, especially amid increased immigration and poor assimilation.

• Advice for audience on situational awareness and personal/family safety in public places.

  "The reality that we have to take into consideration in all of this is that this can happen at any time, at any place, at anywhere." — David Rutherford [21:54]

  Tactical Tip

  "...stop, drop, look, listen...get down, get low, get behind cover or concealment...identify where the threat is...then make the determination how you're going to either hardpoint yourself or you're going to escape." — David Rutherford [25:18]

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3. Defense Innovation and the Future of Warfare

[32:26 – 35:17]

• Focuses on an interview with the Department of War CTO who details four pillars of modern defense:

  1. Applied AI: Leveraging cutting-edge AI from existing tech giants.
  2. Scaled Hypersonic Weapons: Making hypersonic missile technology affordable and more widely available.
  3. Directed Energy: Using lasers and advanced energy tech for defense, e.g., against drones.
  4. Contested Logistics & Battlefield Information Dominance: Innovating supply lines in forward combat and gaining a data advantage.

  “The modern battlefield is not going to look like the past battlefields at all. We're not fighting guys in caves anymore.” — David Rutherford [35:30]

• David argues this shift is positive, bringing smaller, more innovative firms into the defense sector and strengthening national capability.

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4. Political Image Rehab Gone Wrong

[42:10 – 47:46]

• Discussion on high-ranking officials seeking to "rehabilitate" personal images via media.

• Example 1: FBI Director Cash Patel appearing on a podcast with his girlfriend, attempting to quash rumors while projecting a “celebrity government official” vibe.

• Example 2: Susie Wiles, Trump’s Chief of Staff, featured in Vanity Fair, stirring internal criticism for giving opposition media access and showcasing behind-the-scenes disagreements.

  “You cannot bring your personal life and try and live this kind of pseudo star, government employee type thing. It just doesn't work for the American public.” — David Rutherford [43:39]

  “If I was the Chief of staff for President United States, I would want no press whatsoever. Right? ... It’s insane to me that this was allowed to happen and really is pretty poor judgment and just more along the lines of hanging Christmas lights in the rain.” — David Rutherford [47:48]

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5. Dan Bongino Walks Away: “A Big Double Finger”

[53:53 – 59:28]

• The abrupt resignation of Dan Bongino from his FBI post shocks the hosts. They read his social media statement live:

  “I will be leaving my position with the FBI in January. I want to thank President Trump, AG Bondi, and Director Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose. Most importantly, I want to thank you, my fellow Americans, for the privilege to serve you. God bless America and all those who defend her.” — Dan Bongino, read by Jordy Allen [55:32]

• Rutherford expresses deep disappointment, interpreting it as a betrayal to listeners who counted on Bongino for exposing corruption.

• Draws a parallel to other “letdowns” in politics and tech, e.g., Trump and Elon Musk.

• Concerns about lack of major indictments during Bongino’s tenure.

  “So, you know, there's a part of me that's like, good for you, Bongino, way to walk away. But there's also part of me that feels betrayed because I had hope. I believed you were going to be a guy that was going to do the right thing.” — David Rutherford [56:11]

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6. Broader Reflections & Closing

[59:28 – 62:50]

• The sense of disillusionment: “America is plugging things in and nothing is lighting up.” [58:01]
• Urges listeners to step away from the negativity, spend time with family, and stay hopeful for the holidays.
• Teases the next episode: a Christmas-themed show for the following week, with David hosting Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Christmas & American Life:

  “Setting up Christmas lights in the rain, that's the metaphor where we're at in America.” — David Rutherford [11:00]

• On Terror Threats:

  “It's been shown that [certain migrants] are not going to assimilate and they're going to cause problems ... this is the new norm.” — David Rutherford [22:32]

• On Defense Tech:

  “...I guarantee in the next 10 years, we're going to see robots on the battlefield...” — David Rutherford [35:39]

• On Leadership Image:

  “If I was the Chief of staff for President United States, I would want no press whatsoever.” — David Rutherford [47:53]

• On Bongino’s Exit:

  “If he comes back on the air and does not expose everything he saw… then his viewership will be cut, slashed in half because who's going to believe him?” — David Rutherford [56:38]

• On American Disillusionment:

  “America is plugging things in and nothing is lighting up.” — David Rutherford [58:01]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |---------------------------------|--------------------| | Introduction & Christmas Rant | 03:32 – 11:06 | | Bondi Beach Attack Analysis | 16:33 – 28:19 | | Defense Innovation Discussion | 32:26 – 35:17 | | Political Image Management | 42:10 – 47:46 | | Bongino Walks Away | 53:53 – 59:28 | | Closing Reflections | 59:28 – 62:50 |

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Key Takeaways

• Maintain personal vigilance: In a world of increased unpredictability, situational awareness and self-reliance are crucial.
• Skepticism towards politics: Public trust is flagging as high-profile figures appear to act in self-interest and avoid accountability.
• Defense at a crossroads: America’s military and defense posture is rapidly changing to embrace technology and innovation.
• Finding meaning in chaos: Especially during the holidays, focus on genuine human connections amid broader societal frustration.

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Next Episode Tease

David Rutherford will host the main Clay and Buck Show on Dec 26 for a light-hearted, Christmas-focused special featuring listener call-ins and holiday stories.

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End of Summary

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[David Rutherford]

Today on the Week in Review, terror attacks in Bondi Beach, Australia. The future for the Department of War Cash Patel rehabilitates his girlfriend's image. Vanity Fair covers the inner circle of the Trump White House. And Dan Bongino bids adieu today on the David Rutherford Show. Foreign. What's up team? I am pretty excited to do today's show. We've been doing a ton of incredible interviews over the last several weeks. If, if you missed any of them, I highly recommend you go back and you take a look at some of these incredible interviews. We've done both. George Pizzulu, David Clements I loved Stig's interview. I just think we've been really kind of hitting a great stride. I hope you're enjoying the content. If you are, please don't forget, like subscribe and share with all your friends. We've got some great, great shows coming up. Gonna do a Christmas special next week. Got a great show about Syria coming up too. And then we're gonna do some really awesome fun end of the year year and review shows where Jordy and I are gonna go go off on the top stories of the year for you guys. Now, you know Christmas is always an interesting time for me. I don't know about the rest of you, but as a kid growing up, you know, it was, it was one of those things that I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it. I wasn't the guy, the kid that was all fired up and would get out there and hang lights with my dad or, you know, put the decorations on the tree and we sat around and drank Eggnog or man, that just was not our household. In fact, a lot of the time it was just me and my brother arguing. It was hectic around the house. I just wanted to get out and go ride my bike with my friends, you know. But Christmas was never like this major or we never went to church. We didn't do any of that. So when it comes to my Christmas duties and responsibilities, man, I'll tell you what, I flat out suck. And I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to say I'm good. I'm not going to say I'm the man. And you. All you got to do is just ask my wife or my four daughters. And the perfect example example of all this was last night. Again, it's what, it's the 18th and I have yet to put up any Christmas lights outside of the house. And it's not like we got a big house or nothing, but all my neighbors have been done for weeks. Everybody's done in the neighborhood. And old Rut is just dragging my feet. Now. I always use the excuse where I'm traveling all the time. Well, I haven't traveled this week. I was done last week and have really no other excuse. I, I said I got a little sick this weekend. That helped me put it off a couple days. But I'll tell you what, I. It came down. So last night I get all my. I, I go, I do get a work at it. And then I'm like, all right, let's go and get out all the extension cords, right? And I start going. And it starts to rain and it's just a little drizzle to start out. And I'm like, okay, no big deal. But then it starts pissing on me and I'm like, all right, I'll just do the lights on the pillars in front of the house, real simple around the door frame. And so I'm trying to run the extension cords around out in the, you know, tucked in under so nothing can see it. And then finally I'm just throwing it over the edges and I go to my first one as I'm, you know, having a drink of my scotch and, and pretty much just chilling and, and, and I go to plug in the first one with the first set of colored lights, traditional ones, because by the way, my, my light decoration is abysmal on every level and I love it that way. There's no continuity. You're never going to see the same decorations twice. It's a, it's God awful. But that's Why? I love it, right? It's. It's. It's less than Clark Griswold. So I. I get there and I'm getting ready, and I'm like, all right. I go to plug it in. No, no juice right Now I gotta trace it back. I ditch one extension cord that doesn't work. Then I gotta go bring the lights. And by then, my wife comes back, picking up one of our daughters from soccer practice and comes in. And I'm just sitting in the. In the gym, in our little garage gym, and I got my scotch and I got my headlamp. My. My, My, My things are down like this, right? I stink from working out, and I'm miserable. And she walks in and she just starts hilariously laughing at my ass. Which was all warranted, right? I don't claim to have any protection in this. I deserve every kind of joke or assessment of my almost utter incompetence of. Of. Of Christmas spirit and festivities. Now, now, inside looks beautiful. Wife does it. And we even wrangled the kids. We have a tradition where we all put on, you know, some type of Christmas little outfit and put the tree up and go get it together and. And always see my buddy Pete, who I grew up with. Awesome. And. And we get the tree, put it on, bring it home, and then we open it up. And then the next night, we put all the decorations. But our decorations are. Are much like our lights outside, right? We've got, you know, the. The 2024 election map as an ornament. We' his ear. Fight, fight, fight. I've got. I've got what's his face from your Christmas vacation or. Yeah, Christmas vacation when he's cleaning the. Cleaning the. Clark, you know, we've got that. So again, it's not like we have these beautiful, ornate Christmas. But it's fun. And. And this year, another insult to me is the. My wife went out and got these pajamas from Victoria's Secret. Well, guess what? She got my jammies from Victoria's Secret first. So I put on the pants, and I was like. And they've got, like, this glitter gold in there and all that. I'm like, you're serious? Like, you want me to wear Victoria's Secret jammies that are like triple xl? So they do sell those there. And you want me. And then the girls jumped in, and I was just getting decimated, right? And so I couldn't wear the shirt. I thought I'd cut the sleeves off, but I didn't do it. I just, you know, wore a T Shirt, whatever. But I had those damn pants on. And so as, as this struggle session emerged, right. It naturally, it infects my mind as to the level with which I'm going to participate in the festivities right now. Don't get me wrong, I love Christmas. I love the idea of Christ's birth. I love all this. But again, you know, I live in a pretty hyper, materialistic city. And so it's not exactly about Christmas itself. More as long mind is like what kind of you're gonna buy and put under the tree. So my point of all that putting lights up in the rain and being miserable, wet soaking, it's kind of the metaphor for what we're in right now as Americans. And so I. Yeah, dude, that's it right there. Oh my God.

[Jordy Allen]

Dude.

[David Rutherford]

Yeah, I, I mean, yeah, probably more like butthead than Beavis, because Beavis seems like he'd probably love it in that idea, right? You know? You know, and I've got the music in the background by, you know, I've got all the classics. And then all of a sudden, you know, obviously Mariah Carey will, will drop in there and I just like, if I hear that song one more time, I'm gonna like, strangle somebody. But again, I'm not a Bah humbug. I'm not a scrooge. I, I love watching the girls open gifts. I love giving gifts to other people. It's just the, the, the rigor of the magnitude. Not only does it take up most of my storage facility, but then I gotta transfer it. Then I gotta take down one year I left the lights year thinking, oh, I'll just flip the switch next year with the lights on, all the trees in the house. Well, guess what? We live in South Florida. Rainstorms all the time, storms. So my lights in that work, and I'm still living up to that one as well. So, you know, setting up Christmas lights in the rain, that's the metaphor where we're at in America. And I just, I, my, my, my message to all of you is don't get too distracted by the rituals of, of the material aspects of Christmas itself and really just get focused on spending good quality time with your family while they make comprehensive fun of you. All right, that's my intro. My little, my little rant about Christmas. Okay? Listen, if you want to get a Christmas great Christmas gift for your, your, your family, your kids, loved ones, you know, go over to davidrutherford.com and sign them up, Buy a gift certificate, sign one of them up for the three Online coaching, motivational coaching courses that I've got one about teaching people how to embrace fear. The next is teaching people how to forge their self confidence. And the third is to teach people how to live a team life. These are phenomenal. I've been working on these for 30 plus years. You can see them right there. Super easy to buy. You can take the course at your own pace and I guarantee they'll have a prominent impact. Now these courses are mostly journal based. There are some physical and mental activities outside journal based exercises. But again, like I said, I've been working on these things for about 30 years and apply and employ these in all the different coaching aspects of my life. Whether I'm coaching business owners, whether I'm coaching professional sports teams or college teams, or I'm coaching young men that I mentor on a regular basis. So yeah, just go over to davidrutherford.com check out the courses at the Frog Logic Institute. Or if you want to get some swag, you can go get yourself FrogLogic Old School Core T. I've got one with the brain just as the brain. I've got one with the brain as a tiger stripe brain. We've got some great hats. We've got a trucker's black hat with a little logo like Jordy's got on. I've got a flex fit that's blue with the logo embroidered on. And you can also buy our our newest shirt for the David Rutherford T shirt flashbang and true shirt which is a great. Now most likely if you order today, we'll try and get them in the mail as soon as possible. We could put them out Saturday, definitely Monday. We can get them in the mail for you. So don't be afraid if you want to go get some Dave Rutherford, uh, Frog Logic swag for your friends. All right.

[Jordy Allen]

I wear this hat every day. Not even kidding.

[David Rutherford]

Wow. Jordy, you're the man. Thank you so much, bro. It's a good hat. That's one of the best hats we've ever done. For sure.

[Jordy Allen]

That was a strong hat, dude. Yeah, you knocked out the park with this one.

[David Rutherford]

And then the other thing too, if you're interested also in making a Christmas donation to the Operator Syndrome foundation. That's the non profit that my wife and I and and Dr. Chris Free Run. We're currently helping five SOF members in a pilot program designed to try and help them with metabolic rehabilitation. That's because our endocrine systems get fried from endless training cycles and combat deployments from the gwat. So metabolic Stabilization, mental health support. We work with a great organization called the SOFT Network. People have very extensive backgrounds in treating SOFT members with behavioral health stuff, neurogenic response. We work with several organizations out there. Whether it's SGB blocks or, or different ways to support neurogenic recovery and then orthopedic support. We've got a pretty extensive network of people that we can help guide you towards some type of either physical therapy, rehabilitation or actual assistance in figuring out whether or not you need surgery or not in our orthopedic network work. So that's what we want to do. So if you want go over, you can learn a lot about it. There's actually a free course available on the website on operator syndromefoundation.org where you can learn all about Operator syndrome. We've got the paper that Dr. Free and his associates write and then you can also link to Chris and potentially buy the book as well too. All right. Hoo yah. All right. Jordy?

[Jordy Allen]

Yes sir.

[David Rutherford]

We can review buddy.

[Jordy Allen]

Let's review.

[David Rutherford]

Yeah, let's review. So the first and foremost, the one that we've, we've got to touch on obviously because we had such a great show with Sarah Adams and where she talked about eminent terrorist attacks. I think she was mostly fixated in America but she also said all of the western countries are under this threat as well too. And you know, we saw recently the two National Guardsmen get attacked in D.C. that one poor girl got killed and all our thoughts and prayers to her family and her friends over this holiday that they don't have her. We saw there's been some other stabbings over in Europe. We've seen some car attacks but the one was most serious that happened last week was obviously the, the Bondi beach attack during an annual Shabbat Jewish community event called Hanukkah by the Sea. Now approximately there were a thousand people around this in attendance to this and two men, a father and a son opened up fire on, on this crowd of people and really had a decimate, decimating impact on the people around, killing 15 people including a 10 year old child. Would you, would you hit the top right square there and play that video for us, Jordy Allen? Right there. All right, so let's, let's go back. I want to go back to. There's another one where the, there was a gentleman who actually ran in and took the gun away.

[Jordy Allen]

Oh, oh hell yeah.

[David Rutherford]

Pretty brave guy right there. Grabbed the gun, was able to shoot him, didn't in that specific situation. Okay Jordy, thanks.

[Jordy Allen]

Wow.

[David Rutherford]

So you, you see this. Incredible. Now one of the things that kind of really stood out and popped out for me and there's been a lot of commentary. One, the rate of fire that these guys were able to sustain with bolt action rifles was, was somewhat impressive. In particular the younger son. A lot of people are assuming that these guys had training of some kind. Obviously we don't know anything deeper about why they did it. Now we do know that they were. That Sajid Akram, 50, was the father, was killed by police and exchanged gunfire. He was a licensed firearms over owner with six registered guns, all recovered. He was originally from Hyderabad, India and immigrated to Australia in the late 90s. His son, Navid Akram, 24, Australian citizen, seriously injured, hospitalized and later charged with 59 offenses, including 15 counts of murder and terrorism. The pair had traveled to the Philippines in November, staying mostly in a hotel in Davos City on Mindanao island, an area of historical Islamist insurgents activity. Right now, aside from their rate of fire and their focused attack on this, this Hanukkah celebration, I think what you also saw was a pretty poor response. I mean ultimately the police did get there and were able to mitigate circumstance, but you saw the heroic nature of that one gentleman who ran out and, and disarmed the one guy from his, his bolt action rifle. But you saw some other stuff with some of the Australian police officers and their response, how long it took, how poor the assault was. So again, it just reinforces to me in the heightened time of conflict that we exist in, you can't depend on law enforcement's reaction. Right. And what is the greater context? To go back to what we talked about with Sarah, you know, there are Joe Kent, who's the deputy director of the DNI of Tulsi Gabbard, he was on Capitol Hill recently and said there are at a minimum 14,000 terrorists in the United States right now. So those were two guys. You know, 15 people killed could have been way more dependent upon the quality or style or type of munitions that they had. Imagine if they had fully automatic aks or any type other. Imagine if they had any type of explosive devices, grenades, whatever it might be, pipe bombs, you name it, or even suicide vests themselves. The devastation could have been far greater. So the reality that we have to take into consideration in all of this is that this can happen at any time, at any place, at anywhere. Right. There are certain groups that seem to be more, more inclined to be attacked. Obviously the Jewish community is on heightened awareness all over the world right now. There's Been many messages around the world, around the country to say to Jewish communities, stay on your toes, be able to make sure you know what's going on at all times, but also regular communities, because these attacks can take place anywhere in non Jewish communities. Remember, the idea of terrorism itself is just to terrorize and demoralize the population. Right. It's not to be to wage a war or to change. It's to put, induce terror in the civilian population. That's the reality and that's what's taken place. So, you know, are they going to stop? I don't believe so. I believe they're going to continue, they're going to continue to get more elaborate, more intense. I just, I don't think that you can immigrate millions of people from war torn countries that have a profound inability to assimilate into your particular culture and then also have in many cases an underlying conscious hatred for the political arms of these particular areas which they move to, whether it's American politics, Israeli politics, Western European politics, whatever it might be, when you bring these people in, it's been shown that they're not going to assimilate and they're going to cause problems. Whether it's through the dilution of your natural class of people that populate an area and try and overtake and gain political power, whether it's through terrorism, whether it's through just taking over the culture of local neighborhoods or areas, this is what is taking place. And if you're not aware of it, then you need to climb out from under the rock you've been living for the last eight years and recognize that this is, this is the new norm. So what do you do? Go get a weapon and start training immediately. I just took my daughter and her boyfriend a couple weekends ago, which was awesome. Now she's going to get dialed in. I'm taking my wife and my oldest daughter training here in the next couple of days just to get them back dialed in. And then I'm going to take my younger three at a more, more introductory training base at the end of the break here soon. So get out there and train right. Also increase your situational awareness. Head on a swivel. If you're in a public place, just, just take a look around. What doesn't seem right, what doesn't seem wrong, you know, and get an assessment of what normal actions look like in your environment that you live and dwell in. All right.

[Jordy Allen]

Is yeah, if, if you're in that situation, you know, is the general idea, situational awareness and get off The X is that kind of the.

[David Rutherford]

Oh, absolute suggestion 100. What I always teach my daughters to do if they go to the mall and I say, hey, listen, be aware of an active shooter or you're at school, is first you, you stop, drop, look and listen, right? You know, most gunfire, if they're standing up, you know it's going to be point at target point, opportunity. They're going to be looking for stationary target. So, right, get down, get low, get behind cover or concealment, right? Cover is the bullets can't go through it. Concealment is the person firing the weapon can't see you behind the COVID but the bullets can still go through and reach if they shot through it. So stop, drop, look, listen, right? And what do you want to do? You want to identify where the threat is, where it's moving, what direction, and then make the determination how you're going to either hardpoint yourself or you're going to escape, right? Nothing beats distance from, from these types of, of, of shooters, right? So if you are in and out, you know, one of these situations, best thing in my opinion is you turn and run. Now also be conscientious. If you're running, right, you want to run in a way where you can bound, right? You want to think about bounding. These are short burst, right? I'm up, I'm running, I'm running, I'm running. They see me and then I drop again and I'm up, I'm running, I'm running. They see me, I drop again, right? And you kind of. Or you zigzag when you run, right? When I remember when I was a new guy at Team one, we had a British SAS soldier come over and talk about what it's like patrolling in an urban environment. And what they would do is they would patrol in this, in this tactic called bubbling, right? And they would walk down the street, they would take two steps to the right, squat down, take a step forward, stand up, zigzag over, walk normal. And they would interrupt in an inconsistent and irregular pattern, their movement. So if someone was training on them with a sniper, all of a sudden, irregular movement that throws them off, they might move to another target. So, you know, the biggest thing is which direction is the gunfire coming from? How close is it? Do you have a safe egress route? If you don't make sure you have those interrupted bounds, right? Also, you know, if you are trying to protect your loved ones, you might want to think about creating diversion, right? You move kind of in proximal relation to the shooter, start drawing their attention towards right, throw something in their direction, break something near them, get them moving away. And then once you start those diversions, allow the people that you're with or care for to make sure, tell them exactly. I want you to run 100 meters to that car, get behind it for 10 seconds, see if anybody's shooting at you, get up, run another 50 meters, so on and so forth to break contact, get off the ax.

[Jordy Allen]

That was great.

[David Rutherford]

Thank you. Yeah. All right. Again, I just want to say all our thoughts and prayers are with the people who were killed and their families. I know this can be a tough holiday season for you, tough Hanukkah for you, tough Christmas for you. But just know that there are good people in the world that are ashamed of what took place and, and are sorry that you're. You're in this level of pain.

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See mintmobile.com all right, next one Department of War and or in their modern focus bring this up because I thought this was fascinating. It really I think we're seeing a massive shift away from the traditional military industrial complex, which essentially had been controlled by about four or five big industries, right? You've got the Raytheons, the Lockheed Martins, the Boeings, you know all these mega firms that have really had a focal point. But what I thought was interesting. I want you to listen to. This is the chief technical officer of the Department of War. And can you, you, you, you open that up, make that big, and then, and then let's listen to this guy, if we could. Jory.

[Department of War CTO]

So applied AI is number one. And the reason I call it applied AI is because the big companies open AI, Anthropic xai, they're all investing hundreds of billions of dollars in AI and AI infrastructure. So all I need to do is take that and adapt it for, for the department. So apply it. So that's one, two is scaled hypersonic weapons. So hypersonic missile, it's sort of like, it's kind of a geek term for defense nuts, but, but it's like a. It's like a, you know, nuclear weapon that you made thing, or it doesn't have to be nuclear, but it could travel at over five times the speed of sound, over Mach 5. That means it could get from China to the US in 30 minutes or vice versa. So they developed those, and we have two, but we're. They're really expensive, so I'm trying to scale them and make them cheaper. And there's a lot of companies, frankly, in this area that are working on that. Another one is scale directed energy, which is this concept shooting down, like, Everest and, you know, space lasers, shooting down things from space, shooting down things from on the border that are coming over, like drug drones, how to use energy to do that. And then the fourth one is what we call contested logistics. So if you're in a fight or battle in a forward place, like, you know, somewhere, you know, near China, for example, and you're not. It's not a home game. They call it the tyranny of distance. Right. It's really far away. How do you do things, food, water, energy, munitions, and make those things available in those areas so that, that, you know, it's a, you know, we can win. And then there's one called battlefield information dominance. So right now, like, sensors and what you can hear and what you can see, it's all advanced really fast. So everyone can see everything online and, you know, in the air and through the air and so on. So how do we dominate the information that we're getting in the battlefield? So if we ever have a conflict, we can win.

[David Rutherford]

Awesome.

[Department of War CTO]

So those are kind of all right.

[David Rutherford]

You know, when I, I think of all this, the first thing that pops into my mind is, all right, great American defensive postures, advancing into a place of the modern era. Obviously, we've learned just an unbelievable amount of information from Ukraine and. And Russia's fight their battle. We've learned a tremendous amount from what was going on in Israel fighting Hamas, because, you know, unfortunately, the battlefield from the GWAT days, those days are over. And it's a whole new advanced technology world. And so to be able to see this guy articulating this investment is awesome. The other thing is that it's going to create greater opportunities for smaller companies to break into the defensive space. And I believe, Excuse me, I believe that that's the key to growth in our future. Right? You've got to break up these juggernaut firms. You've got to get rid of them. You've got to not get rid of them, but just isolate them into things that they do at scale, do well, but allow all these different technology companies to come in. And, you know, Sean's had an incredible amount of these guys on his show to really show what's possibility from Andrew to all these others. And so that's the future of the battlefield, regardless of whether you want it to or not. I mean, I think within, you know, we already see robot dogs, we see robot little track machines and video gatherers and all this stuff going on. We see drones at every level, size, shape, we see projectiles. We see, you know, everything. I guarantee in the next 10 years, we're going to see robots on the battlefield as well, too, right? You know, Optimus prime with, you know, full, fully outfitted with his militaristic kid on, and, you know, you wheel, you know, 20 of those guys into a town, and they just sitting around looking around, seeing where the guys are. And, you know, internal. You've got, you know, 400 pounds of C4 that's strapped around Optimus, you know, the Optimus robots. And again, my. My point of all this is that, that there is a cataclysmic shift taking place because the modern battlefield is not going to look like the past battlefields at all. We're not fighting guys in caves anymore. We're not, you know, yeah, we got the Houthis or whatever, but, you know, the modern fronts in particular, you know, I. I believe there's a definite shot at a kinetic war with Russia in Eastern Europe. I believe there could be a. A greater kinetic war in the Middle east potentially. Maybe that emerges out of Syria or some of these other places. For sure. Even I think we could have grander conflicts in Africa or in South America. I mean, hell, we've got Battle carrier groups in the Gulf. We've got Gulf of America, got them off Venezuela, we've got them off off Taiwan. That could go at any minute. So we are being forced to adapt and, and escalate our, our advanced technology and production, which I love. The other part of that is that I tell you what, you better apply some of that money to some of the young 24 year old men out there that are, are, are no doubt being either dissuaded or, or trying to be manipulated. With a ton of cool commercials coming out from the army, the Navy, the Air Force, Marines, seeing a ton of that out there now. But also I think, you know, from that American patriotic mentality, I think that needs to be a focus. You saw recently that Israel and, and its allies around the world are, are spending, you know, hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars on gaining control of the rampant rise in anti Semitism that's around. So they're going to wage this, this information war against it, right? Well, I think America needs to do the same as it relates to young men and, and reinvigorating them that this country is the greatest country on earth. It provides the greatest opportunity to live and a semblance of freedom that exists. But you also got to convince these kids, hey, this is worth it, it's worth going because after past performance, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, the track record, and these kids know this now, they're not stupid. You can just do, go look at some of the polls that have been done or interviews on the streets, on college campuses, you know, will you fight in the next major global conflict? The answer is generally, and what I hear is no. I mean obviously increased numbers of recruitings up and I think that's because of Pete and the great job he's doing then Sean Parnell and the messaging there. But you better start doing some messaging on America itself, right? And the way you begin to do that immediately is you stop the clown show and you start indicting people. Right? We need to get some people that have contributed to some of the massive corruption schemes we've ever seen. Now one of these is obviously the Epstein files that are supposed to be released tomorrow. Maybe we'll do a little quick addition. I'll do a hit on online, a video on that on Instagram or X. I'm going to start doing more of those. And you can follow me at Team Frog Logic as my personal. And you can follow the show at David Rutherford and that's on Tick Tock, Instagram and Facebook and then on YouTube at the David Rutherford show. But on. On X, it's at D. Rutherford show. That's the only place it's. It's abbreviated. All right, so I, I think what you have is you have this challenge to rehabilitate, kind of what the Trump coalition believed was going to take place, because you are not going to get people that will volunteer for another kinetic war unless you start ending some of these shenanigans. Now, I, you know, what I see is I see a much greater focus on their own personal reputations trying to be rehabilitated instead of their political actions. And that's problematic for me.

[Jordy Allen]

The.

[David Rutherford]

One of the most ridiculous ones I saw this week was FBI Director Cash Patel going on a podcast with his girlfriend. And what the. The pretense, I believe, after listening to it. And she seems like, you know, a lovely woman. They seem happy together. But when have you ever seen a director of the FBI on a podcast with his girlfriend? All right, play this for me, will you?

[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

So I just want to clarify.

[David Rutherford]

You're not Jewish.

[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

I'm not. You are not from Israel?

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[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

So how did we get to. Are you a Mossad agent?

[David Rutherford]

You know, that's a great question.

[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

I, I too have that question for the Internet, actually.

[David Rutherford]

You and me both.

[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

No, I, I'm not sure. I, I'm not Jewish. I'm Christian. Christian.

[David Rutherford]

I'm Armenian.

[Cash Patel's Girlfriend]

So, you know, not really sure how we got there. I've never been to Israel. I, you know, love to go. It's just the stamp isn't even on my passport. And I'm just as confused as everyone else is, because the Internet, to this point of the personal attacks on you and your relationship are not only from the far left, but are from the far right as well. And how have you dealt with those attacks? Do you let it, you know, are those things you guys discussed, do you let it roll off your sleeve? Do you not read it? I think there's a lot of people out there, especially young women, who are attacked in other ways from their friends, from their groups, and that's something we all struggle.

[David Rutherford]

All right, stop this shit for me. Just stop it. I appreciate it. All right, here's the reality. You cannot bring your personal life and try and live this kind of pseudo star, government employee type thing. It just doesn't work for the American public. And the more you try and rehabilitate. And I have from inside information that Director Patel reached out to several large scale podcasts to try and get her on, to rehabilitate this whole relationship. Meanwhile, this guy's using the FBI jet to fly up to Nashville to hang out with her or whatever. And granted, I get it. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. But again, I also. This does not help. This does not help the image of Cash Patel. It does not help the FBI, and it does not help confidence in young people as to the fact that this administration was supposed to be all business in getting rid of corruption, but it seems like there's other intent now. The other one, and this is the one that. Holy. This is the one that, That I. I can't even wrap my mind around who in their right mind would ever even do this. And that is the Susie Wiles interview in Vanity Fair. Can you bring that one up? So.

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[David Rutherford]

All right, first off, all I know, if, if you were a part of the GWOT in any way, shape or form, you remember when the great Stanley McChrystal was taken down, how, Jordan, you probably too young. You don't remember this, but the great Stanley McChrystal, one of his aides thought it would be a good idea to let Rolling Stone follow them around in the g wat and, like, see how cool they all were or whatever. Rolling Stone comes out and does an incredible hit piece on the whole military, including McChrystal and his whole thing, you know, and ended up. McChrystal ended up getting fired and, and, you know, all his aids, you know, whatever. But, like, this whole. Again, this idea of I'm going to, you know, kind of intensify my reputation by using, you know, media to enhance it. Now, I get that. To go on political talk shows or podcasts and try and get your message. I mean, I think J.D. vance has done a brilliant job with that. But Vanity Fair, Listen, I have been reading Vanity Fair since I was a young man. Right? It was in my house all the time. This was before they were. When it was just kind of a Hollywood magazine. And they did these great stories. But when you look at that right there, like, right. What. What is Van and Ferry, for all of you who don't know who, who. Why would you know? But Vanity Fair has been associated with one of the most, you know, accomplished photographers in history. Her name is Annie Leibowitz, and she has done these remarkable, unbelievable photographs of people. Portrait photographs. They're. They're historic. In fact, we. My mom has several Annie Leibowitz coffee table books with these. They're some of the biggest things ever. Right. I, I, you know, and they used to have wonderful writers that did really pretty interesting exposes before I, you know, figured out they were the opposition. And, you look at the first picture with Susie Wiles close up. Now you look, look at that. Like, that's like a mug shot picture of her Megan reference. That can go to the next one. This is the Press Secretary Levitt. And if you, you know, look in, you can see where she got her lip injections. It's so close. And all the wrinkles and imperfections in her face go to the next one.

[Jordy Allen]

Oh, they go that close.

[David Rutherford]

And then you look at this, and it looks like, you know, it's. They're trying to sell this. And, and obviously, when you go in and you listen or you read about some of the quotes that, you know, were in this, and, and she talks about, you know, different, you know, different things that came up. Like, like the Epstein files came up, and she was kind of incoherent about that, that she said she opposed the initial January 6th pardons. You know, she admitted flaws in the deportation process. You know, there was. She talked about a huge disagreement internally with, with tariffs. You know, she praised Trump's focus on peace in the Gaza ceasefire, but then, you know, defended his actions on these, you know, cartel boats in the Caribbean and attack on Iran. You know, so this guy, this feature by Christopher Anderson, I just like who, who goes. Obviously Susie's the one who greenlit this thing because she's at the top of the food chain game. But, but why do you do it? Like, what's the rationale? Oh, it'll just make us look stronger with our base. Right? Well, we'll. We'll be able to cross over and bring people into the fold who are radical leftists, who only read Vanity Fair, who hate. We all have Trump derangement syndrome. This is going to benefit us. That's when you start to go, oh, okay, so this person believed this was a good idea. So that's why it appears like there's some pretty distinct disagreements throughout President Trump's presidency so far. Whether these disagreements came with the Elon Musk stuff or the firing of some of the people on Hegseth staff early on, or, you know, some of these decisions that are made. Like, you begin to realize, like, these people, you know, if you go into Vanity Fair, there's a reality that your. Your ego might be a little bit bigger than it needs to be. Right. If I was the Chief of staff for President United States, I would want no press whatsoever. Right? You turn that over to press people, you don't do it. I don't want to know. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want any of my people talking to you, especially someone from the opposition. It's insane to me that this was allowed to happen and really is pretty poor judgment and just more along the lines of hanging Christmas lights in the rain, right? Like what the hell are we doing here? So alright, enough about that now the last one.

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Obviously the thing that really stands out to me, which is indicative to this whole thing and the whole kind of fiasco of a lack of of action from the Trump administration and indictments, a lack of action on on exposing the things he said he promised to expose a lack of action on. And Congress itself with Mike Johnson. It's not like anybody's poll numbers have shot through the roof. It's not like Mike Johnson is being forced to codify any of these changes in any meaningful way. It's and we're a year in. We're full year in. We got three laughs, one left before the midterm. And if the story I did recently that the elections are already whatever, you know, I mean what, what you think they're not going to flip these next elections, especially the lower, smaller ones and all these pivotal blue or or purple states or red states out there. So the last one that really embodies the whole craziness to me is Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI called it quits now. Will you read that for me? Jordy?

[Jordy Allen]

Yes. Dan Bongino says on X I will be leaving my position with the FBI in January. I want to thank President Trump, AG Bondi and Director Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose. Most importantly, I want to thank you, my fellow Americans, for the privilege to serve you. God bless America and all those who defend her.

[David Rutherford]

So in my mind, what this is, is a big double finger, double barrel, as he says on his show, to everybody that was counting on him. I know I was counting on him. I know he was our only best hope in, in the FBI to, to, you know, completely exposed, bring all this stuff out, get rid of the corruption and, and, and do what he had been ranting about for eight years. Ranting. And I've been a massive bonjino. I started listening back in, in, in 16 because he had the best assessment of Russiagate by anybody by far. So I've been a massive Bongino fan for a long time, 2020 stuff, whole thing. And what I hear, what I'm seeing is, you know what? This isn't worth it. Nothing's going to get fixed. Nobody can fix it. I'm going to go back, I'm going to make millions and millions of dollars on my show. But I will tell you this. I bet his. His viewership takes a hit for sure. If he comes back on the air and does not expose everything he saw ver like everything he saw, then his viewership will be cut, slashed in half because who's going to believe him? Him? How do you believe a guy that per. That goes into such depths on Epstein Russiagate, illegal election, like hours, hundreds if not thousands of hours on this, and then not a single mfer gets indicted while he's in there. I mean, you can argue Comey and Bolton, but like, where are the Clintons? Where's Obama? Where's Brennan? Where's Clapper? Where's all these other people? McCabe, whatever the lawyer and his is, you know, the lawyer, two lawyers, right? How about Avril Lavigne? How about all these other people? How about in the FBI, what we saw, Christopher Ray, the J6? Where's the exposure on how many informants were in the audience that day? Day nothing. So, you know, there's a part of me that's like, good for you, Bongino, way to walk away. But there's also part of me that feels betrayed because I had hope. I believed you were going to be a guy that was going to do the right thing. And me and potentially millions of other people believe, like you didn't. You did not live up to what you promised you were going to do. You not live up to what you professed that you would do. If you went in, none of it took place. And now you're saving your ass and your career by getting out and walking away from it. So now if there's something else. If they threaten your family, they threaten all that, then I understand, hopefully you'll someday let us know. And that's entirely a possibility for sure. But I just, I, I again, this is one of those things where I go, you know, to plug in the plug, to flip the lights on in the cold wet and I go like this. And nothing comes on. And that's kind of the way I feel right now going into this holiday season at the end of this week is that America is plugging things in and nothing is lighting up. All right.

[Jordy Allen]

It reminds me of Doge with Elon.

[David Rutherford]

A hundred percent. That's exactly what it is. I mean, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk goes on Joe Rogan and essentially says there is hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud every single year in Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. Hundreds of billions, five, six, seven hundred billion dollars annually in this. And not a single thing has been done. Nothing's codified, no investigation, nothing, nothing that we are aware of has taken place. So why would he want to come in, get into these fights with these politicians who are just there to keep the same, the status quo in place? Why would you start these fights? Lose your contracts for SpaceX, lose your contracts for whatever, right, Your, your stock gets shorted or tanked, which I don't think can happen to them because he's the only one actually manufacturing anything. But, you know, he's the only tech company that's actually not built on a myth. But, you know, the reality is you have a guy that truly will be the third, the third massive letdown for the American people. And that's Dan Bongino's resignation. So the other two being Elon and then Trump himself. Right? All right, so that's all I got for the week in review. I hope you all are going to put your phone down, stop watching X and Instagram, and you're going to spend the next week and a half or so with your family, spending time getting outside, going to church, praying with your family, doing fun, playing soccer, going to the beach. Jordy, you and the baby and your beautiful wife. Go do something outside. Enjoy yourself because it is the Christmas time. I will hit everybody with a Christmas show next week. Just talk about that. But again, if you want to know more or if you want to get a good Christmas gift for anybody, go check out our online courses or our swag on davidrutherford.com give us a follow, subscribe or like on all the social media platforms. One final thing before I hang up with you and you're going to love it. Next week on December 26, I will be hosting the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show on the 26th. All right. It's going to be super fun. A whole Christmas show. We're going to have Collins, you're going to be able to call me in on national radio. We're going to talk about Christmas, a Christmas hangover, Christmas eating, presents, bad presents, good presents. We're going to talk about Christmas arguments, Christmas craziness. We're just going to go deep on this. So please, if you want, check me out on the Clay and Buck Show Next Next December 26, a week from today and for my debut hosting that show. All right, everybody, God bless you. God bless your families. Jordy, thank you so much. Thanks to Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. Hoo yah.

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How are USDA staff cuts and budget challenges affecting farmers with conservation?

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I've saved my soil and I provide food for my community. I wouldn't have been able to do that without the NRCS programs. A lot of farmers are thinking that they're not able to farm next year. Crop prices are below cost of production, and so these programs are what keep farmers in the business of farming.

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Protect conservation funding and staff that supports farmers paid for by Invest in Our Land.

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