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A lot of Romanian people go to support Kalin Giorgescu and say, Kalin Georgescu, president, you are the only one that is rightfully elected is not the one that is a puppet. Now we're hoping that the movement will grow, but I think that the guess on the fire of this movement was the report from yesterday that we saw it. We see Galba come and say, look after the report. We see this, this, this that's having the connection with Chris Coons with Biden with blinking. Then maybe this little fire will go to be a big fire.
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I'm trying to break some new worldwide news today with you and, and what's taking place in Romania, which in, in my opinion, based off reading the preliminary findings from the House Judiciary, findings that the EU and the European Commission has been involved in swaying eight different elections since 23. It's just unbelievable to me. And professor, if you could just explain, you know, maybe some background of what happened with you guys and, and, and Kaylin Georges, you in 24 and then now what this means for the current situation politically in Romania.
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So I was interviewing Colleen georgesco beginning with 2023. That's true. And a lot of his ideas that he speak frankly to other people, people at the beginning says, oh, come on, that cannot be true though. All these things that you're saying, that cannot be true. And then again and again and again, we're doing this show and exactly on, I think on 22nd of November, just few days, two, three days before the elections on the 24th of December, I having an interview with him, a podcast and the name of the podcast was who will be the president of Romania? And nobody believe what we are speaking with him on that today. And everybody says, come on, he will not have not more than 3 or 5 or 6% from the elections. And then I tell you the truth, on the evening of the 24th, he was calling me and I say, look, let's make a podcast together at the end of the elections. And we discover happily that he was qualified, not the last one, but the first one on top for, for election Romania. So I think that with his speech, with what he's speaking about, what's happening in Romania, with the traditional Romania, with the traditional family, with our roots was destroyed by the, I'm, I'm sorry to say, but also Biden Administration via USA, the money put it in a lot of NGOs in Romania. They crash all this, all this thinking about the family and even, sorry to say, also for my Young people in Romania, they also are a little, you know, getting. Look, if the American says that it's good, then it's good to see the rainbow colors. And that is not right for me as an old Romanian and traditional one and the one that I study in this country. And I love my country and I love my Carpathian Mountains, I love my Dino Delta. But these things cannot be thrown away by the guys that now in Romania are in power and are destroying everything.
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I think it's fascinating to me that there is this massive push by American organizations like USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy, which have been operating pretty substantially in Eastern Europe since 2015. How have you seen. Have. Is there. Have you. Have you noticed, based on what you saw with, with George Askew's election and being recalled and basically canceled, how have you seen specifics on where their influence has played a role? Where. Where have you seen it? Is it mostly in the media? Have you actually seen it in election, administrative, election function workers? Where have you seen their influence the most in Romania?
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We see it in everything that you mentioned over there. We see it also in media. The media, for example, the televisions in Romania are paid by the parties that are in power. And even the new president, even if it's a puppet for others, guys in the back that are supporting him a lot and put a lot of money in his campaign, even he recognized, I think, a few months ago in a TV show, look, okay, we canceled the election, and that was your wrongdoing was not. Was not right. But there was some people in the power that want to keep the power. And even he realized these things. And of course, with the money, with the parties, they are paying the television to say all this bullshit. For example, myself, I was put it in all these TVs for not less than three or four weeks on the prime time, as I was, the relationship of Colleen Georgescu with Putin. So me as a Romanian, as a professor, said, look, here's the connections with Putin. And the problem was that I cannot get out of my house. I. I was surrounded. All the TVs was around my house. And I'm telling you frankly, it was not only the TVs or some other services, let's say I don't nominate them. That was surrounding me here. And of course, my phone was tapped. My, for example, was some interview here in my house. And I don't give the name of the television, but at that time, when they want to make the interview, they cut the power, so I don't have electricity. So they push It a lot and they push it only with the bullshits in all the media. They pull it in the tick tock and all these things together they involve and you know, they try to destroy Kalyn Jerjesko through me. So they make me the worst nightmare of the Romania because I'm connected with Putin. Even my son Andy, he was call it on the tv, I see it by myself. And he's young, he's only 26 today. But that time was 24, right. So he was called the Colonel from ghetto, from Moscow. He is here and he's his son. So things like that is. Was not nice for me. And even after a few months I can, I can say, look, I can go somewhere in a place that nobody look at me, that I'm the foreigner, I'm the bad guy from Russia that wants the worst for Romania. So people are beginning to get the veil out of their eyes and they beginning to see that, look, the things that Georgesko said is different. The things that Georgesko said on my show is happening now. The things that Georgesko said after they cancel election January, he was having with a very famous journalist in Romania, Cristojo, on January 2025. Exactly. Of course, he was in my. In my. In my studio in Guadalupuri studio, in Wolf of the Mouth studio. And there he says the things that was happening in 2026, that is everybody said, come on, what he was saying is happening now. And we see now that everything that at that time was. Somebody says, look, he's lunatic. Now they understand that he was telling the truth. And I think that the majority from Romania are beginning to see the truth for all this media and all these NGOs that practically try to put a lot of worse things on his name, on his behalf, and also in my name and my behalf.
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Code iheart20i I find it fascinating that, you know, in 2016 we had our own Russia collusion hoax. It was called Russiagate, where the outgoing administration, the Obama administration, essentially altered intelligence reporting and forced the intelligence community through Brennan and Clapper are our highest level intel officials to go find information that linked President Trump to Russia. It's fascinating to me that they would use the same playbook with with Romania as well too, that they would come in and influence whoever they is, whether it's senior officials at the European or it's people in the Romanian government or intelligence services literally using the same playbook against Kalin and and say oh, he's connected through you professor to Russian intelligence. Why do you think the European Union is so it's easy for them to try and pin you to Russia. Why do they want to do that?
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Because you know the narrative with the Russians do that. The Russians do so and Russian is the worst is putting on education. And not only Romania, this is across Europe. The Russian is behind everything. For example, in Romania they put the most expensive electricity costs all over Europe and they say it's Russian fall. So also in Romania, you know that in Romania the Eurostat received it, we received it yesterday, that the inflation is more than double than the second country in Europe after Romania with deflation of the prices. You know who is behind this is Russia. And the price for gas, price for diesel. Who is behind this is Russia. For example, I give you a detail with this narrative. The Russian is behind everything. Daily Mail, uk uk, London's paper. You know what he says yesterday about option files, the Epson files that Trump administration put it? They are Russian, he is with Russia. So this narrative is put it so many times in the people mind, in the. In the young mind that the young mind, you know, is like a sponge. They accumulate everything. And of course lately the people don't read anymore. The education is. Is. You know, it's not only here, I think is all over the world. I'm a professor and I'm no other speaking. But because they are a sponge, they accumulate all the information. And the problem is that they don't look behind this information if it's a true information or is a false information. So they eat everything. So the Russia is big, the big bear, the worst guys. Putin won nuclear war and things like that. For example, we Romania, we don't love Russians. But me as a professor, I understand that the bullshit that they are saying about Russia are not true. In Romania we have communists because of Russia and not because only Russia, because Churchill there was a secret note between Stalin and him and it says 90% of Romania belonging to Stalin. So he was up under Stalin. The big intellectual people, the scientist people for Romania was arrested and killed by Russians, but with the support of the Romanian traitors. Of course they. They having some them. Them of Armenian name, but their ethnicity was, I don't want to say in the emission because now in Romano we have a Vexler law. If you say something about the those kind of those people, then you are put it in jail for 12 years. So you see, it's terrible with the censorship in Romania is worse and worse. In 2015, for example, we're having in the mountains in old days we're having the fighters again the communists and Those fighters was always. They say, we wait for the Americans, the Americans will come and they'll make justice. And then the communists and the Securitate, the Securist guy, they picked them, killed them. And then in 2015, in order to. To stop is a. You know, to stop what was happening at that time, they issue a law that if you put. If you put on the name legend, legends Legionnaire in Romanian, the Legion Legionnaire then you are worse and you cannot speak about this. So this law was made by a former president of the party that now is the prime minister. The name was Krynantonesk. And now Wexler law says not even you can mention something worse about them. So that is the kind of censorship that we Romanians are putting. And all the things that are. Are saying about us is not true. But for you, I. I give you a short example. What's happening with the elections in December 2024. I'll put you now a picture and I'll tell you who is this guy? So you see, this is Chris Koons with the former president Klaus Werner Johannes that practically they cancel. He canceled the elections. He was the president at that time and against constitution. He was in power in another few months, but the constitution didn't allow that. And Chris Coons and you know, all the American guys know that Chris Coons is the close body to Joe Biden. While Joe Biden was a senator, he was his chief of staff. Chris Coons and he came. This is a picture from Romanian presidency on 30th of December 2024. And I'm asking you now what's happening with the Logan Law in the States? The Logan Law says specifically the American officials cannot be involved in the elections. And what Chris Coons was doing was sending the message from Biden to Romanian President. Look, you did do that or do so with the elections. And though I mentioned again that Anthony Blinken, former Secretary of State in America says the elections was canceled because interfering wave the Russians Russians was behind this. And now also America, the House of Judges in the Congress says no, it's not Russian interference. What has happened in America with Anthony Blinken that says this things and what's happening with Thierry Breton he recognized on television. Terry Breton is a former European Commissionary and he says what we did in Romania of cancellation of elections, we will do it in Germany was before German election. And if you let me, I'll put now the map that you. We have it from the. From the report with the countries. That report says that the interference of European Commission look, we have here Ireland, France, Netherlands, Slovakia, Romania and of course Moldova. And the funny thing is that today your opinion says that all this report is child thing is nothing true on that. What is your opinion about what the response was having the European Commission about that?
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Well, for me, I mean I've been paying attention to, you know, the manipulation of elections quite a bit lately. I've. I've done a lot of interviews about our 2020 elections and how there's mass fraud all across America and mostly the swing states. And when you look at that combined with what are the usaid, the National Endowment for Democracy, what they've participated in elections in Brazil. We saw it with Lula, there was a question about Lula being in power and they quashed Bolsonaro to the point where now he's serving 29 years in jail. Right. We saw it in France. We've seen France trying to quiet Marie Le Pen and trying to censor her. We've seen it in Italy. We've seen it I think in many different places up to including we just saw this past week in France. They raided the ex offices, right? They tried. They're trying to get rid of. They're trying to get rid of Elon Musk and X in Europe because they believe it's a problem. They arrested Pavel Duro, the CEO of Telegram last year as well too. And then we also saw what the Prime Minister President of Spain just this past week give a speech that says no, we're going to determine what speech is allowed and what isn't. Now you combine all that what we saw two weeks ago at the Davos meeting for the World Economic Forum and I believe the Digital Services act combined with American NGOs that are being funded by USAID or by NED or by the State Department in combination with certain political leaders like you said, Chris Coons are are basically locking down European elections and elections around the world because they figured out this whole system of how to manipulate elections through their own influence on social media with whether it's bot farms or paying high profile influencers. I believe this is the new system on what's taking place. How do you all plan to combat this with these new findings?
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We are the problem is with us that the power is in all their hands. The president is. Is call it. No he in all days. That is not to confirm what I say. That is because I saying in the show his name I say it first remain and then I trusted Nicosure precious that is envelope Nick because he receiving money in the envelope. He was just a protester. If you want to make a building, then he is coming. Look, this is cannot do the building and put it and officially complain and he cannot do the building. And of course somebody by behind come and give him the envelope in order to cancel his complaining. And after that you can raise your building. So he is conducted by somebody else, of course from the services for sure in the back. And also our Prime Minister I think will not last long because the taxation in Romania was growing from 100 to 300% for the properties and for example for a minimum wage, for a minimum salary in Romania you have to work for the state six months. So what is that? Is it is slavery or what is it in Romania for minimum wage is half of the year we have to work to pay to the state. That is. That's what's happening in Romania.
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Was also another major issue too because Romania there were plans for building the largest NATO base in Eastern Europe in Romania. Is is. Is that still has that advanced. Are are they moving forward with this NATO base? What's going on with that?
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I I think that when Trump administration came and they understand that this guy is not belonging to. To the strategic partner that we call in USA even today everybody say USA is strategic part market of Macron and we see how Trump says about Macron laughing about his glasses and so on. In fact what's happening last year more than 800 officers and personnel from that base was sent it home. And I don't think that the rest of the base will remain more so the construction the plan source like this of course to make the biggest NATO base in the Eastern Europe is close to the sea is having all the needs go straight very close to Ukraine and so on. But I don't think that the plan will be of course at least with this. With this government with this president. I don't know the rest. We like the Americans as I say one almost 100 years ago all Romania says we wait for the Americans to get rid of the Russians. And of course America's never never came. But we're hoping that those days after we see the report some some visible hand from from. From America to come and you you have now the. The. The links that you can do it. You have the Logan Law and don't forget that something I see and then I see New York show that was raised in some election office was raised by cash Patel by the FBI and collected all the bags from 2020. That is something that have to be done here and of course was commission from I don't know from the Congress that was coming to elections here in 2025. After they canceled election, they make new elections. I don't know what was happening with that commission, but if that commission was coming from the democrats, we see that nothing will happen. But if the Republicans that love love Maga. We love Maga because what stands for Maga is sent also for Romanian traditional family religion. We are. We are Christians, after all. More than 90%. We cannot say that we are something else. You know, rainbow colors is not a meaning. I don't to disturb the parts of the. Of the people that I don't want to say anything wrong. But a disease must be treated, not be allowed to spread. That's my opinion firm about this. And as I say, we wait the help from the American side anyway Romanian the beginning to this more than one year. Then we see that, for example, Kalin Giorgesku is put it in a restriction. He cannot leave the country and so on. And he has to get in the. In front of the police each week for a stupid thing. He says some words and those guys for that law, old law for those. He says that he's a legionnaire. But no Romanian movement, legendary Romanian movement. Not even a Nuremberg. Nuremberg after the Second World War. No. Remember the Nuremberg process and says no, this movement nothing have with the fascists, with Mussolini, with Hitler. They are for Romanian renew that's they were fighting for Romania. That's not having these motives like the fascist and the. The Hitler guy. So if Nuremberg didn't put legionary movement under the process, we find some Romanians some. Some access from Romanian people to do it. So you understand this thing. So the people. It's nice that every. Sometimes it's Monday, sometimes it's Tuesday. A lot of Romanian people go to support Colleen Georges and say, look, we are saying Colleen Georges President, you are the only one that is rightfully elected is not the one that is a puppet. Now we're hoping that the movement will grow. But I think that the guess on the fire of this movement was the report from yesterday that we saw it. That is a big guess on our report. And if. If some. I don't know to see Galba come and say, look after the report. We see this, this. This that's having the connection with Chris Coons, with Biden, with blinking. Then maybe the. This storm, this little fire will go to be a big fire. Be a storm on what's happening with a coat. Some they call it political elite because they are pro Europe and others are called pro Russian. So in Romania if you love Romania, then you are pro Russia. That's the, that's the label that they put on you.
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Yeah, we know that. Well, anybody that was for Trump was a Russian stooge or a Putin apologists or whatever it might be. Last question for you, professor, please. How can the current movement that supports Georgia skew? What, what are they going to, what are they planning to do? Is there going to be call to action? Do you think that'll come from these findings that the European Union was directly affecting your elections, or what do you think will happen? Will there be protests in the streets again? What are you hoping takes place?
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I think that the protests will come again to be. Put it on the, on the streets. There is also a commission in the Romanian parliament that is called that they try to find out what's happened with the elections in 2024. And the funny thing is that this commission, and of course is a deputy there that asked the official to come in front of them. It's not like America for the hearings. No. If you got a congressman ask you to come for a hearing, you come here. Even the Romanian institutional institutes don't want to come. Official services don't want to come. And they say parliament is nothing for us, but the law says that they have to come. And I think that today this is breaking news for you. Absolutely. Because, because it happened. I know when this, when it's happened. I, I'm having a podcast with the, the chairman lady last weekend. I know exactly today at 5 o', clock, Romanian hour, we'll have this commission and they'll issue legal complaints, penal complaints, against all these institutions that don't want to come in front of the Parliament. That is, that is also, I think it's important to happen also as a movement in the Parliament with the, with the opposition party.
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Fantastic. Well, Professor, I can't thank you enough for allowing me to come on your show and vice versa. I'm grateful that you were excited to come on our show, and I just, I'm praying for the Romanian people to kind of free themselves from this, the overreach of the kind of dystopian, tyrannical European Union and the manipulation of elections. So thank you so much.
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No, thank you. I want to thank you so much because I'm sure that my viewers and your viewers will come a big, loud voice also for Romanian, but also for the officials in the Trump administration, because these facts have to be heard and listen. Otherwise we cannot do the good things for Romania. And I think that Romania is, was and will remain a very good partner for, for America. But of course the right guys in power this one are not the, you know so loving for Trump they are loving so much macro administration. So thank you again. Send all my regards to everybody that you know that we have common friends. That's why for sure, for sure.
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Yeah. We're grateful for Sean and Sean's team Jeremy for putting us together. Thank you so much you guys. We're, we love uh, being partners with you and it's just, it's awesome. Thank you.
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Thank you. So I will call away anytime that you need some information from Eastern Europe. I'll be happy to respond and I'm quite well informed, believe me.
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Outstanding. Thank you Professor. God bless you.
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Thank you. Thank you very much. Bye bye.
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Date: February 5, 2026
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This episode centers on the unfolding scandal in Romania’s 2024 election, with explosive allegations of international interference by both the European Union and the Biden administration. David Rutherford interviews a Romanian professor (whose identity comes through as an expert and direct participant in these events) to unpack claims surrounding the manipulation of Romania’s political landscape, the role of NGOs, media involvement, Western influence, and the broader implications for democracy in Eastern Europe. The conversation also explores the suppression of nationalist and traditionalist movements and connects Romania’s challenges to wider global trends in election interference.
"A lot of Romanian people go to support Kalin Georgescu and say... you are the only one that is rightfully elected, not the puppet." (02:34)
"...on the evening of the 24th, he was calling me and I said, 'let's make a podcast together at the end of the elections.' And we discover happily that he was qualified, not the last one, but the first one on top for, for election Romania." (04:05)
"There is this massive push by American organizations like USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy, which have been operating pretty substantially in Eastern Europe since 2015." (06:21)
"The televisions in Romania are paid by the parties that are in power... and they are paying the television to say all this bullshit." (07:19)
"I was put in all these TVs for not less than three or four weeks on prime time, as I was, the relationship of Colleen Georgescu with Putin... The problem was that I cannot get out of my house." (07:19)
"...in 2016 we had our own Russia collusion hoax... It's fascinating to me that they would use the same playbook with Romania as well..." (13:21)
"The narrative with the Russians do that. The Russians do so and Russian is the worst is putting on education. And not only Romania, this is across Europe..." (14:44)
"...with the Vexler law. If you say something about those people, then you are put in jail for 12 years... it's terrible with the censorship in Romania; it's worse and worse." (14:44)
"This is Chris Coons with the former president Klaus Werner Johannes that practically they cancel. He canceled the elections... And Chris Coons...was his chief of staff. Chris Coons and he came...30th of December 2024." (16:54)
"...Thierry Breton...he says what we did in Romania of cancellation of elections, we will do it in Germany before German election." (18:56)
"...trying to get rid of Elon Musk and X in Europe... they arrested Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram last year as well... the Digital Services Act... with American NGOs... locking down European elections." (20:41)
"The power is in all their hands. The president... is an envelope Nick because he’s receiving money in the envelope." (23:20)
"For example, Kalin Giorgesku is put in a restriction. He cannot leave the country... has to get in front of the police each week for a stupid thing." (28:34)
"...today at 5 o'clock, Romanian hour, we'll have this commission and they'll issue legal complaints, penal complaints, against all these institutions that don't want to come in front of the Parliament." (33:35)
"...more than 800 officers and personnel from that base was sent home. And I don't think that the rest of the base will remain more..." (27:41)
On Media Fear and Smear Campaigns:
"They try to destroy Kalin Jerjesko through me. So they make me the worst nightmare of the Romania because I'm connected with Putin." (07:19)
On Western Collusion:
"We saw it with Lula... they quashed Bolsonaro... In France trying to quiet Marie Le Pen... in Italy... raided the ex offices... tried to get rid of Elon Musk and X in Europe..." (20:41)
On the Manipulation Playbook:
"It's fascinating to me that they would use the same playbook with Romania... that they would come in and influence... using the same playbook..." (13:21)
On Hope and Protest:
"I think that the protests will come again to be put on the streets... this is breaking news for you... today at 5 o'clock, Romanian hour, we'll have this commission and they'll issue legal complaints, penal complaints..." (33:35)
The episode is urgent, conspiratorial, and confrontational—echoing a populist and nationalist perspective alarmed by “hidden hands” manipulating sovereign nations. The professor offers detailed firsthand accounts combined with wide-ranging critiques of Western policies and global governance. The dialogue is passionate, skeptical of mainstream narratives, and calls for accountability and new protest movements.
For Listeners:
This episode offers a window into contemporary European anxieties about supranational powers, election integrity, and Western influence—filtered through a Romanian lens deeply skeptical of EU and US motivations. It provides fodder for those interested in global democracy debates and the new cold war of information and influence.