David Rutherford Show: Election Bombshell in Georgia | Garland Favorito

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: “David Rutherford Show: Election Bombshell in Georgia” with Garland Favorito (Jan 30, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this high-stakes episode, David Rutherford sits down with Garland Favorito, a key figure in Georgia’s ongoing 2020 election investigation and founder of VoterGA. The show delves into the recent FBI raid on the Fulton County warehouse containing 700+ boxes of 2020 ballots, unpacks six years’ worth of election integrity activism, and explores the broader implications of corruption, legal obstacles, and media complicity. Favorito’s insights provide a comprehensive critique of Georgia’s election systems and a call to action for reform ahead of 2026 elections.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

FBI Raid & Election Integrity Crisis ([02:50]–[05:23])

• Main Event: The FBI conducted a criminal investigation and raid on Fulton County’s main ballot storage, confiscating key ballot materials for review in Virginia.
• Exclusion of Key Officials: High-ranking state election and Republican Party officials, including Dr. Janice Johnston (Georgia State Election Board) and Sally Grubbs (Georgia GOP), were barred from observing the raid.
  • Favorito: “To exclude election board members is really... that says a lot.” ([05:53])

Evidence of Election Irregularities ([06:04]–[11:55])

• Discovery of Counterfeit Ballots:
  • On Nov 14, 2020, “counterfeit” mail-in ballots were detected:
    • No folds, toner-printed, different paper, “voted the same way down ballot for dozens in a row.”
  • “They just kept on counting. We don’t have any means to resolve counterfeit ballot problems.” ([07:14])
• Legal Battles:
  • Favorito’s team filed a case Dec 23, 2020, securing a protective order on Jan 7, 2021.
  • After initial dismissal for lack of standing, the Georgia Supreme Court sided with plaintiffs in Dec 2022, but progress stalled.
• Signature & Chain of Custody Issues:
  • Example: Over 315,000 ballots associated with missing/unsigned tabulator tapes, representing “150 some odd tapes missing.” ([09:33])
  • DeKalb County: 43,000 ballots with broken chain of custody
  • Fulton County: 350,000 ballot images missing duplicates
  • 18,325 ballots with no residential address
  • Rejection rate for absentee ballots dropped by 90%
  • Favorito: “Fulton County, in fact, never did actually do signature verification...and so that allowed tens of thousands more ballots to come in…”

Judicial and Media Obstacles ([13:06]–[17:24])

• Legal System Blockades:
  • Many cases thrown out “for standing”; judges avoided hearings for years.
  • Favorito: “The judicial system is corrupt beyond any American’s imagination.” ([13:21])
• Outside Funding and Political Influence:
  • Discussion of “Soros DAs,” lawfare specialists such as Mark Elias, and national level collusion in “covering up” election issues.

History of Voting Machine Vulnerabilities ([18:27]–[23:33])

• Favorito details his IT background and early warnings about electronic voting vulnerabilities (2000–2002).
• Georgia was among the first states to implement paperless, unverifiable voting despite warnings; court finally ruled the system “constitutionally deficient” in 2019.

Systemic Pushback & Lack of Transparency ([23:33]–[27:47])

• Institutional Resistance:
  • Intense court and official resistance to opening ballots or accessing public information, including prohibitive costs and bureaucratic hurdles.
• Collusion Across Party Lines:
  • Collusion noted between Republican Secretary of State, Democratic county officials, state AG, and media: “The biggest thing we were up against is the collusion...and the media played right along...” ([25:30])

Complicity and Accountability ([28:46]–[29:24])

• Favorito maps the chain of responsibility from Fulton County up to the Governor, noting local media’s poor coverage and the widespread nature of system failures.

National Significance & Defamation Tactics ([32:53]–[35:57])

• Presence of Tulsi Gabbard & DNI: Her involvement hints at national security or multi-state ramifications. ([33:31])
• Defamation Lawsuits & Silencing: Lawsuits against election critics (including those by Dominion and individual workers) succeeded in silencing dissent.
  • Favorito: “[Ruby and Shea] sued and that had some impact...the Fani Willis stuff, all the indictment of her 18 political adversaries...it’s the greatest case of prosecutor misconduct, I think, in American history.” ([34:59])

What Needs to Change in Georgia ([42:29]–[45:03])

• Ten Recommendations: Favorito points to VoterGA’s “Top 10” election integrity recommendations for 2026.
  • Most critical: “Get rid of [illegal] voting machines and return to hand-marked paper ballots with publicly recorded hand counts.”
  • Cleaning voter rolls, closing ineligible registration loopholes.
  • He states that with modestly-sized precincts, hand counts can be completed in “three hours.”
• Progress, But Not Enough: Georgia has made “massive accomplishments” since 2020, but vulnerabilities persist.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Exclusion from the FBI Raid:
  “To exclude election board members is really... that says a lot.”
  — Garland Favorito ([05:53])

• On Discovery of Counterfeit Ballots:
  “They just kept on counting. We don’t have any means to resolve counterfeit ballot problems.”
  — Garland Favorito ([07:14])

• On Judicial Obstruction:
  “The judicial system is corrupt beyond any American’s imagination.”
  — Garland Favorito ([13:21])

• On Systemic Collusion:
  “The biggest thing we were up against is the collusion between the Republican Secretary of State and the Democrats in Fulton County. That was huge.”
  — Garland Favorito ([25:30])

• On Ideal Election Reform:
  “All you’ve got to do is hand count the ballots in three hours...on under cameras publicly available and that solves the whole problem.”
  — Garland Favorito ([44:11])

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Significant Timestamps

• [02:50] – Fulton County ballot warehouse raided by FBI
• [05:53] – State election officials blocked from observing raid
• [07:14] – Explanation of discovery of counterfeit ballots
• [09:33] – Discussion of missing/unsigned tabulator tapes and scale of discrepancies
• [13:21] – Favorito claims systemic judicial corruption
• [18:27] – Background on Georgia’s adoption of risky voting machines
• [25:30] – Collusion between Georgia officials and media
• [34:59] – Impact of defamation cases in silencing opposition
• [42:29] – Election integrity recommendations for 2026
• [44:11] – Advocacy for public hand-counted paper ballots

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Resources and How to Follow

• VoterGA: voterga.org
  • Includes legal case info, pressers, slide decks, and donation info.

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Tone: The conversation is urgent, adversarial towards institutional actors, and calls for direct election reform with steady, forceful conviction. Favorito and Rutherford emphasize transparency, grassroots activism, and dogged resistance to what they view as entrenched corruption.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking a thorough understanding of this episode’s revelations and ongoing election integrity controversies in Georgia.

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The FBI raids Fulton county warehouse to retrieve over 700 box of 2020 election ballots. Today I have the man that has led the charge in this fight for the last six years, Mr. Garland Favorito on the David Rutherford show. Mr. Favorito, welcome to the show. It is an honor to have you, sir.

[B]

Hey, David, it's great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.

[D]

Well, I, I, I didn't think, luckily we had this a little pre planned, I guess, a little premonition. But I, I do realize I reposted all of your hits you were doing today and I watched all your stuff yesterday with, with Steve o' Bannon and you are on fire right now.

[B]

Yeah, everything has come to a head and you had perfect timing to schedule this in advance.

[D]

Well, the one thing that I, as an American, that, that and a person that truly believes in the institutions I served as a seal, I served for the CIA. You know, I voted every election since I could vote. You know, this was for me, this is the biggest thing in American history that we've ever faced. And that's why I've been trying to cover as many stories. Having David Clements on, having Ralph Pizzulo on, we had Sean Smith on. We're hoping to interview several other people that David has introduced us to. And hopefully if you have people that you think would be great to come on, I'd love to interview them too. But as we know, yesterday the FBI raided the Fulton county warehouse. Can you describe what has taken place?

[B]

Yes. So the, the first of all, what's taking place, David, is a criminal investigation. The FBI has opened a criminal investigation. It's not a civil case, although the civil division is working on this too. And they came in and seized almost everything that is significant that you'd want to seize in a, to look at the entire 2020 Fulton county election. So they, they, they categorized everything. The clerk has a list of what they have confiscated and, and they are going to take it back to Virginia and analyze it.

[D]

Fantastic. Now yesterday I was paying attention to the coverage that you were a part of. But also Dr. Janice Johnston and Sally Grubbs were there as well, too. Now, Janice Johnston was the vice chair of the Georgia State Election Board, and Sally Grubbs was the first vice chair of the Georgia Republican Party. But they were not allowed in the building. Nor were you and your wife, Tamara. Right.

[B]

Well, right, but. And they have standing to be there. I mean, they certainly could exclude us. But the. To exclude election board members is really. That says a lot.

[D]

That for me was really the most telling tale that, you know, people that are a part of this board and I think everybody, if you, if you're not aware there, there were these great hearings in the fall with, with Dr. Johnston that really illuminated the main problems of what has taken place not only in Fulton county, but all through the 70 different counties in, in Georgia, if I'm correct. Could you talk about the main problems that you have found, you and your team, as well as other people that in. In a list so people can understand what has taken place? Because obviously the normal reaction is there's. There's never been a case that has been adjudicated. There's no standing. There's. They're all fraudulent. It's all conspiracy theory. But you, like many people, whether it's Tina Peters from, from Colorado or Carrie Lake, and they're the Arizona recount, you, you guys have all found really distinguishable evidence that there were major problems.

[B]

Yeah, that's right, David. So it all started back on November 14th of 2020 when we found counterfeit ballots in the Fulton county hand count audit. And we knew they were counterfeit because they had not been folded. They were mail in ballots, but they were not folded from being mail. They weren't written with a writing instrument, appeared to be toner copied. They were on different paper stock and they were voted the same way down ballot for dozens in a row. So they're clear counterfeits. Fulton County. The official said, well, you know, these are senior poll managers that identified these. And the officials said, well, just keep on counting. We don't have any means to resolve counterfeit ballot problems. So that's what they did. They signed affidavits the next day. And when another case that used those affidavits didn't come through, we filed our own case on December 23rd of 2020. And then we got the protective order on the ballots on January 7th of 2021.

[D]

And that, that to me is like when I was trying to do the research and going back to the most critical dates for. And watching your past videos on your Rumble account and on YouTube. That date was probably the most significant date of all because you did get that prot.

[B]

It's turning out to be very significant. Yes. And then the case, right when we were getting ready to inspect the ballots, suddenly the judge said we didn't have any standing, so we had to go to the Supreme Court to win standing. And we got that done on December of 2022. And ever since that time, the Fulton county judges have been sitting on this case and preventing us from moving forward, opening discovery and seeing the ballots.

[D]

That's, that's fantastic. Now the other aspect of this case that I found, which was it, which seems pivotal as well, was the, the missing or unsigned tabulator tapes. Could you describe why that's so important and what that means?

[B]

Well, right, and that's just one example. But one of our, our, our great researchers, David Cross, submitted this case and basically it's pretty much exactly what you said there. The tabulator tapes which are produced for all the in person voting both early and election day, had no signatures or they were just missing. Altogether for representing over 315,000 ballots, there were 150 some odd tapes missing.

[D]

That, that's, that's just a massive number. I mean, you know, some of the other things that leapt out at me as well too in terms of the size of discrepancies because you know, I obviously there's mass panic and not only in Fulton county officials, but Georgia officials. I saw Senator Ossoff that called this whole thing conspiratorial and Trump's breaking of the law and you know, every other, you know, major Democrat player has been given their speaking points and now they're out banging on it. But, but you know, and what they say is they say that that call to Secretary Rasberger and try go find ballots is the incriminating thing which ultimately led to the RICO case from Fannie Willis against Trump and 18 or 17 of his associates. But when you go down the numbers, it's really unbelievable. The De Cob county, there were 43,000 ballots that had no chain of custody Fulton county ballot images, 350,000 images that had no duplicate images. The Cob County 393,000 image ballots. Then the, the resident, the no residential addresses on 18,325 ballots. And the, this was the other one, the appenty signing matching there was a 90% drop in rejection rate. And so these are, these are real numbers that paint in, in my mind an absolute picture of illegalities.

[B]

Well, right. Fulton county in fact never did actually do signature verification. They eventually admitted that, which is required by the law. And, and so that allowed tens of thousands of more ballots to come in which wouldn't normally have not been accepted.

[D]

I, I remember when all this began and, and Mayor Giuliani and his team mostly with Bernie Kerrick. And I was friends with Bernie for a few years there back in the day. I remember chatting with Bernie about in particular Georgia and he, you know, as a former police officer, investigator and police commissioner in New York, he was saying that he and the mayor had never seen anything like this, just the flagrant corruption, in particular the, the six affidavits for just fraudulent ballots that had been put in. Why that seems to be a relevant part of this whole case because sworn affidavits are supposed to be legitimate pieces of information to move forward with cases. How come those weren't accepted in the cases that you all filed?

[B]

Well, a lot of, a lot of these cases were kicked out, were standing. You know, it took us two years to get ours back and then the judge didn't want to have a hearing.

[D]

As simple as that.

[B]

Yeah. I mean really, the bottom line, I think David, is that the judicial system is corrupt. Beyond the American, any American's imagination.

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I agree we, we did. I did a full expose on that about eight months ago and it's you know, you look at the amount of outside funding that's come in to support whether it's they're tip what we typically call them the Soros Das. Right. And then the, the, the, the Bossberg judges of the world and you know, the Fanny Willis's of the world and I, I. It is overwhelming in terms of, of you know, the, the system in Its corruption. We often hear names like Mark Elias and some of the other people that work in kind of that field. The. The lawfare specialist. Has there been a presence, their presence down in Georgia throughout this entire thing?

[B]

I'm not aware of Mark Elias being here, but then again, maybe I wouldn't know if he was, but he has been. He has been active in one or two of the lawsuits here.

[D]

Right. And we do know that Fanny Willis's outside source or her. Her significant other, as it's been alluded. Right. You know, met extensively with Jack Smith and his team up at the White House for the formation of that RICO case. What, what. What happens now? I mean, as. As the FBI begins to conduct an investigation, what do you imagine will take place? If you will. And I know you're not. You don't have the crystal ball or anything, but what, what would. What technically, from a legal perspective, how could this play out?

[B]

I think it will play out with indictments. I just don't know exactly when or how long.

[D]

And that's the fascinating thing to me, because in my mind, as you look back, and what was interesting is that you've been involved in this type of thing for 17 plus years as an IT specialist, but also really, as you become an election IT specialist, for sure. And the one that really hit me was historically, in the 2005, there were major questions brought up to the former secretary of state, Kathy Cox, about the security of the voting systems. Can you go back historically and lay out, you know, first why you got involved and then the. The pressure that's been growing and then where the real pushback began with Kemp, Rossberger and some. Maybe some of the other election officials over the years.

[B]

Sure. I think it started. I got involved because I went to a conference in 2000, and they showed us how machines can be manipulated. I was an I. T. Guy.

[D]

I.

[B]

They made a lot of claims I didn't think would, you know, would be true. And I got there and I said, yeah, you know, I looked at it, I said, well, everything they said is true. You can manipulate an election with these new fangled electronic voting machines that are paperless. And I left the conference and didn't think much more about it. And then suddenly, 2002, Georgia becomes the state that is going to implement this paperless, unverifiable voting statewide. I opposed it along with quite a few other people. Ironically, at that time, the director of Fulton county elections was right with us opposing that system, and we. But we couldn't stop it. You know, they. Secretary of state Cox had made up her mind to go forward with this, and despite all the warnings, she implemented it. I told him that it was unconstitutional at the time. And 17 years later, the United States District Court agreed with me and said, yes, they are constitutionally deficient. And they made that ruling in 2019 in another case called Curling B Ravensburger, in which our co. Other co founder Ricardo Davis is a plaintiff. That's. That's how it generally started.

[D]

Right. I, you know and. Go ahead.

[B]

No, you go, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say what's.

[D]

Curious to me is when you go back and after reading Ralph Pizzulo's book Stolen Elections that he wrote with Gary Bernstein and Martin Rudill, who did the investigations on where the source code came from in terms of the Venezuelan Americans and smartmatic and Sick Dell and you know, the dominion mergers back in the day that, you know, when they first brought these machines even to California, California realized they were compromised as well too. And so it's not just Georgia or California, but this has been a pattern of realizing that the machines were vulnerable, but yet they kept get pushing forward. They kept pushing forward. And all of these, or you know, the, the, the states, in particular Secretary of States, seem to just go along with what the reality that these have to be implemented for some reason in your mind, why did that push emerge and why has there not been a more exaggerated response to trying to stop it?

[B]

Yeah, well, a part of it was funded by Hava Help America Vote act, which is our taxpayer money using to use to disenfranchise us with unverifiable voting. But why would the Secretary of State's buy a system that is obviously corrupt? You know, it just doesn't make any sense unless they wanted to use it to cheat.

[D]

That makes sense. I mean, I mean, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's almost like the mental gymnastics have been exhausted now. And, and you know, you, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you know, it's a duck. But they're going to tell you it's a parake. How did you exp. I mean, obviously the response. Yeah, let's. Can you describe the pushback and what that's been like? Because you've been, you know, countless hours in the courtrooms, countless hours writing briefs, countless hours doing research. What has it been like to be in those courtrooms when you hear whether it's county officials, election officials, state officials, state investigators basically respond with. Against evidence like, well, it's, it is.

[B]

What it is, it's been really frustrating, David. I, I don't know how to describe it. I mean, it's been frustrating. It's been, it's been to the point where it's really even evil. Yeah, I mean, we've, we've actually were attacked by a co. Plaintiffs one time who didn't seem to want to get to the bottom of stuff. But I, I, the, to hear the officials just blow this off all the time. And what's always frustrating is that they never get challenged by the media, by the judges, attorneys or anything. They just can throw this garbage out there and let it stick. And when, Go ahead, go ahead.

[D]

When, when I had Sean's, Colonel Sean Smith on, who's is probably one of the most brilliant guys I've, I've ever had the opportunity.

[B]

Yes, he is.

[D]

For, for, for me, it was, there were so many criminal violations that were done with just basic process, just what was written into either the federal, you know, election law or state election law, and how those statutes and codes were simply just blown off. And then the reality is that who's gonna prosecute these? Are you gonna have the state prosecute their own people that are blowing off the laws? And you know, it just, it seems like it's so convoluted that nobody really knew which direction to attack. Where was the vulnerability in the legal process itself? Where, where did you guys, how did you develop your tactics and where did you think were the greatest ways that you could move the ball forward in the fight?

[B]

Well, all, all we could do is just keep putting out evidence and putting that information. David, One of the biggest things we were up against is the collusion between the Republican Secretary of State and the Democrats in Fulton County. That was huge. And then of course, the media played right along with that and said, oh well, if Republicans didn't find anything out wrong, wrong with the election, then, and for the Democrats, then why, why should we believe you? So. Yeah, it's a good point.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

That, that they, in saying that they were able to avoid looking at the actual facts and evidence that we had, had produced.

[D]

Well, I, absolutely. Obvious obfuscation. I never say it.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Is, you know, a tactic they employ from day one. Right. They, they point to a media source that gives them credibility as fact and then they just keep recycling it through around and around.

[B]

Right.

[D]

It's, it's kind of interesting. One of the, one of the aspects about your endeavors was the other counties and getting the other counties to kind of come in and circle the wagons a bit. What Was that like in the beginning and in which counties did you feel kind of understood the argument and really wanted to fight?

[B]

Wanted to fight against us or with us against it?

[D]

Right, with you, with you, with you.

[B]

Well, there are almost no counties that really wanted to fight with us. We had to get the law changed to make ballots public record here in Georgia. Wow, that took us four years. We got that. It went effective at the beginning of last year and that helped us. So then all the other counties agreed that, for example, we could have balances public record and they would give it to us. But then they wanted to charge us, you know, $49,000 and take six months to produce them. So it wasn't very effective. So we have to go back and hone that law this time.

[D]

Right. I remember yesterday, Sally Group Grubbs was saying that Fulton county was saying, all right, we'll, we'll produce the images for you. It's going to cost 400 and some odd thousand of taxpayer money, so we have to put it back in for a vote and get a line item in the budget. But, and, and her whole point was like, no, we'll, we'll take the cost. Just give us the ballots. And that's why, you know, the FBI seizing them with such a substantial reality to it. If, if you were to have, obviously I would imagine we used to call them, you know, target lists or you know, hvts that we were going after. If you were to kind of map out the, the hierarchy of responsibility in this, how would, how would you describe that?

[B]

Well, that's interesting. So the, the issues came with Fulton county, but the secretary of state, its office, including the legal counsel there, covered up for them. Then the attorney general filed an amicus brief against. They're trying to, with the, with the Wood sector state to try to prevent us from looking at the ballots. So they're all basically complicit. And the governor has been very quiet about this whole thing because he was the former secretary of State.

[D]

Right.

[B]

And then you have the complicity of the media. The media is particularly the local media has been pretty close to horrible. We've gotten a couple of fair reports, but it's just, we're up against a massive, you know, just massive collusion. And when we break through this, support.

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Be able to dissect the, all of the, the tentacles of this thing. I think that that will be the most fascinating aspect of it. And you know, one of the interesting things that I, I saw with all of what's going down was that Tulsi Gabbard was on location yesterday as well too. What, what one do you have any insight of why she was there? And then to what relevance do you think it would be for the Director of National Intelligence to be there as well?

[B]

Yeah, great question. I, it's obviously it's more than just a criminal investigation. This has some possible foreign ties or ties, maybe domestic ties to other states. I know that she's been investigating a lot of, of issues in the 2020 election and how this all ties together, I don't know. But I was encouraged by the fact that she was here.

[D]

I, I was too as well. You know, I, I, I think if, I, I'm not sure if you've been paying attention with Patrick Burns case and his, the deposition of, of Eric Comer. Obviously there was a significant case in your area with the two women that were worked at Fulton county, that, the famous video after they shut counting down of them pulling out ballots and cycling them through three times and then the resulting defamation cases that came out of that. What, what role do you think those types of defamation cases came from? Silencing, as well as the RICO case, the Dominion defamation against Fox, and then obviously the defamation case behind those, those workers.

[B]

What role did they play in silencing the up their opposition? Yes, well, it was pretty effective actually. You know, Ruby and Shea sued and that had some impact. You know, everything you said there had some impact on, you know, silencing the opposition. The finale Willis stuff that all the indictment of her 18 of her political adversaries. It's in the greatest, that's still the greatest case of prosecutor misconduct, I think in American history. And that will all play out here, I think, hopefully. But it's just, it's all it was just horrendous. And, you know, that was. She basically tried to destroy people who were, you know, telling the truth and doing what they really thought was in, you know, the right thing to do.

[D]

Yeah, I, I think, I thought the, the interesting thing about that, which kind of gave it some interesting credibility was when Janet Ellis is pleaded, even, even Sidney Powell pleaded a little bit. Why, why, why do you think they pleaded those, some of those counts down to misdemeanors. Was it simply they didn't want to face the ongoing lawfare that all these other people. Obviously we know lawfare against Giuliani bankrupt him many times over. General Flynn was bankrupt. This is kind of the system that they use. Did it hurt the overall interpretation or public opinion by having people plead out?

[B]

Possibly. So I think Jenna, I think Jenna Ellis pleaded out because she was working for Ron DeSantis at the time against Trump. I don't know about Sydney. And I think Scott hall was another one who played it out and he had to, he had a business that he had to protect. That's why he pleaded out, because he, he had a bail bonds business.

[D]

Right, right. Yeah, I, it's. I always find it fascinating. And the other aspect of it too is, you know, it seems that their, their only response is to generate these types of manipulated legal theory cases in response. Have you had any cases brought against you in any way, shape or form?

[B]

I never have, David. I've had some couple individuals try to personally attack us. I mean, not physically, but with, you know, certain things. But I have not, you know, I try to be careful with what we say and everything that we say is carefully evidenced. So I've been blessed that we've been and both myself and the organization has been able to avoid, you know, any kind of, you know, retribution or other or lawsuits like that.

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If, if you were approached by an FBI investigator, what, and they asked you, Mr. Favorito, where should we look and what is the most compelling evidence we should look at? What would you tell them?

[B]

Well, we have provided, you know, our overviews and to them civil and criminal division. One of the things on our website is very interesting is there's a little thing that says who's. There's a. You can click on a link and read a document says who says there are was no election fraud in Georgia in 2020. And it will outline 13 types of outcome determinant fraud and it will give links and references there to the original source documents to prove that. So that's probably where I would start.

[D]

Perfect. And and, and that's voterga.org for everybody. There's a plethora of information there. My, my favorite was you have a deck that you presented the Election Integrity Integrity Educational Forum that has just a whole slew of information. These slides are just, you know, it's, each slide seems like a sledgehammer of evidence against this opposition. And it just, it's shocking to me that not only in your case, but, you know, in, in Tina Peters case and others, there's just so much evidence that seems to prove this conspiracy to, you know, conduct fraudulent elections in 2020. I know you all have a deep affinity for Ms. Peters, as do I. Obviously. Her son was a seal and she's a gold star mom. And it's just a shame what's happening with her illegal incarceration in Colorado. Do you care to share your thoughts on, on her case and what she's going through and what you would like to see happen?

[B]

Yeah, well, Tina is facing an unprecedented situation. She not only, not just because the fact that she's a grandmother, cancer survivor and all, you know, all the, you go star mom is what you said. But no one that I know of in history has ever been convicted and sentenced to nine years in prison for a non violent victimless crimes when they have no criminal record and their cases under appeal. I don't know of any case in American history that is so unfair and it's just completely unprecedented. And she is an American political prisoner.

[D]

And I agree.

[B]

We would really hope that, you know, President Trump would do what he can to get her out. Her recent appeals court hearing went extremely well for her. The judges really almost crucified the assistant Attorney general who was trying to defend the actions of the judge in the case and the prosecutors. It just didn't, it doesn't make any, any sense. So we'll hopefully they will make a quick ruling. It's still been, I think a week or two already. I really love to see them make a ruling because I think whatever they do will be in her favor.

[D]

Outstanding. I, I hope so too. I watched those hearings as well and was, it was finally good to see some, some actual legal interpretation come through that that seemed sane. All right, just a, one final question. What happened? What needs to happen in the state of Georgia moving Forward in the 2026 primary and the 2026 midterms? What do you think are the minimum things that need to happen in order to secure and protect the vulnerabilities that still exist within Georgia elections? Wow.

[B]

What a good question. So we have A list of our top 10 things and we have on the voter ga events tab. We did a press conference about this just a couple of weeks ago. But just to list you a few of the major things. There's been massive accomplishments and changes by the legislature since 2020. Georgia is the leading state in changes for election integrity since 2020. And we were had a big part of that. We lobbied hard for them. But the biggest issue that we have is the voting system right now. And that one has already been defined as being illegal by the the U.S. district Court. The president has come out with an executive order ordering the EAC to decertify all QR coded voting system which include the one that we use statewide. There's been. The General assembly has banned it. We just need to get rid of this thing and we need to get rid of it now before the primaries and conduct our elections on hammer paper ballots with publicly recorded hand counts. We have issued the timing. We showed that you can really, if you keep your precincts reasonably small, medium size, you can count all the ballots and all the, and, and all the key races in three hours. And then you, you don't have to worry 100% accuracy. You eliminate all the cost of all the machines, all the logistics, all the cybersecurity threats, you know, everything goes out the window. All you got to do is hand count the ballots in three hours and you know, on under cameras publicly available and that solves the whole problem. So that's, that's our top thing that we would want to do. There's quite a few other things we could talk about as well.

[D]

Do you have any other ones that are look favorable that you think you can get implemented before this?

[B]

Well, yeah, there's, there's probably several. One of the other big issues is the voter rolls. We know that there's about a 20% ineligible registrations on the rolls. We need to get those cleaned up and we need to put some more protections in to ensure that, you know, fraudulent votes are not entered into the system as they were in 2020. But we've made it. We have made tremendous progress to try to prevent a reoccurrence of the 2020 election here in Georgia.

[D]

I saw this week that a congressman put forward a bill to basically enact what you're saying nationwide and let's just hope it can get to the floor. I haven't had a lot of faith in our sitting Congress right now, in particular the Senate, especially after this past week when we saw, I don't know is 59 Republicans continued to vote for funding for NED and some other NGO organizations that seem to be affiliated with a lot of the negative aspects of what we're seeing across the country. So sir, that's all I got. I know you've got another interview coming up. Once again, just for myself and from other patriot Americans, thank you for all that you have done and are doing in this fight. You're truly an inspiration to not only myself but hopefully to young voters out there who realize that America isn't lost, it isn't gone. As long as you have the integrity to fight, how can people follow and support your efforts, sir?

[B]

Well, David, thank you for asking. We have, you know, it's voterga.org we have all of our, you know, the legal information up there, our cases, the press conferences and everything that many of the things that you've obviously been researching deeply and we have a great all volunteer organization and our volunteers have really carried us through this last five years and both my wife and I do not take a salary from voter ga. So we do have a very special one of our key supporters in Georgia has offered a 3x match on donations. So right now donations are, you know, they're tax deductible and anything that's made will be tripled by this really generous donor. But the time will be up on the 31st. So that's only another day that people would have to, to take advantage of that, that that really helps us go in. You know, the legal expenses are tremendous but we have been able to survive off off of patriots like those who watch your show.

[D]

Outstanding. Well sir, God bless you in the fight and anytime you, you want to come back and break some news or just talk about the fight, I, I, I'm, you're more than welcome here on the David Rutherford.

[B]

Thank you, David. We would love to come back with you again and, and we've got some other volunteers too. I can hook you up with to interview have done some amazing work.

[D]

I'll take them all. I'll take them all. All right, sir, God bless you.

[B]

Thank you.

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