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And it's not whimsical, it's not fascism, it's not Nazism, it's not any of that. It is a coordinated effort as a result of the election of 2024, where the primary thing that Trump campaigned on was closing the border and deporting. I mean I'll talk about numbers here in a second, but the millions of illegal immigrants that have flooded into the country in the last 20 plus years. All right, and the other side of that is there is a coordinated activist slash revolutionary effort to condemn, disrupt and in many cases hurt physically. And the actual impact against the activities conducted by ICE federal agents to hurt them, to dox them, threats against their families, threats against them, reporters on the ground, their lives in jeopardy, who are, are engaged in authorized federal activities. That's what's taking place now. Also, to give you some context, if you're younger or you're not really boned up on American history, what I advise you to do is just go and groke civil disobedience or civil under unrest in 1968, the year Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Was killed and the year that Martin Luther King was, was assassinated as well. And when you look at the people involved in those activities, there's definitely a similarity right there. A lot of that was, was stoked by the civil rights movement, the anti war movement, and then there was a concerted group underneath all of those. Those people, those I mean, because regular red blooded Americans were against the war as they are in many cases now, against Iraq or modern engagement. Now there are red blooded Americans that were against segregation and against civil rights abuse as there are now. And there are good Americans that are protesting ICE right now. Regular People who don't believe in what's taking place. But underneath both those movements, there was a coordinated effort by trained anti American activists. And, and that's really the dark underbelly of all of what's taking place all the way up to and including the mass immigration that was funded not only by our own country, but many outside domestic and foreign financiers. And I'll talk about that. And then to prop these NGOs, to prop these activists up in order to induce chaos in the streets that jeopardizes the rule of law, right, because they innately believe that the system that there. That is currently in place, in particular the system under Trump, because if you look at protests that took place under Obama, even as he was deporting more people than Trump ever did, and you look at the protest under Biden, there were basically none versus the protest against Trump. And then in the first term, and then especially Trump in the second term, these are the tactics, right? These are the henchmen of the left. Now, many people believe you could integrate that into the henchmen of the Democratic Party. And after what I saw yesterday and the day before, with active local and state elected officials, as well as federal elected officials advocating for this type of resistance, I believe there's a definite correlation by the funding that's going to the NGOs and the activist groups, as well as what's being pumped into these PACs, into the campaigns of these elected politicians that are advocating for this type of civil disobedience. And in some cases, they're actively saying there should be a physical resistance and fighting back. And, you know, maybe, Jordy, we could put together a little mash up of, of, of these politicians saying this. All right, all right. So I want to give some context to the whole thing first and foremost, because I think that's critical. And so one of the things that we, we want to do is talk about, because the, the, the, the crux of this whole thing is illegal immigration. Now, you can believe that open borders shouldn't take place and that they're not a real thing, and we shouldn't have that. But again, that's just your beliefs. That's your opinion. There are federal laws in place that protect the American borders, right? And there's a, a whole litany of reasons why we don't have open borders. Primarily, the number one, when you dilute the core culture of a specific place, then you lose the identity of, of the area, of the country, of, of the society that has been built over time. All right. That's, that's, there's no dispute in that historically. So all areas, regions, governments, societies need to have controlled borders determining who comes in and who's kicked out, who's allowed in, who gets to stay and who doesn't. So that's, that's a non disputable thing, a reality that makes sense. Right. For organized governments in society. That's, that, that shouldn't be something that's. I mean, you can debate the idealism behind it, but the reality is if you don't have secure borders and a strong cultural identity of, of that of outside people are forced to assimilate in, then what you have is you have the eventual dilution, demoralization and degradation of a particular culture, region or country. That's just the way it is. All right. When you look at immigration, I went back to 2012 because that's where I think the idea started to shift towards this kind of open border idea. So there's an estimated. And these are numbers that I put in, you know, the prompt in grok and got out. And so this is estimates of the number of unauthorized immigrants who entered since 2012. This refers to all those arrived in or after 2012 are still residing in the country as unauthorized. This does not include those who have since departed, left voluntarily or adjusted to legal status as gross. Cumulative flows are not directly tracked in official data. All right, this is based on IM, the Migration Policy Institute estimates for mid 2023. The total unauthorized population, mind you, this isn't, doesn't include gotaways or getaways is roughly of illegal immigrants, is roughly 13.7 million people. Right. That's a tremendous amount of human beings. All right, and it requires a tremendous amount of resources in order to immigrate those people in financially, medically, educationally, from a supportive mechanism housing. You just go down the line and that's it. All right, so let's go arrive. 2019 to 2023, 2.8 million. 2014 to 2018 1.7 million. 2012 to 2013.5 million. So it's absolutely been going like this since 2012. Really starting to gain speed at 2014 and afterwards. All right, now, cumulative total arrival since 2012, you know, it said 13.7 million. And again, this is a figure that is, is close to The Pew Research 2023 estimate of 14 million total unauthorized immigrants. Recent arrivals in the last five years comprised of roughly 4 million adults. Now some estimates with children is another half million to a million. We're not sure. All right, net flows 24 to 26 are, are down astronomical levels. I mean, because Trump essentially has closed the border. All right, Cumulative efforts. Now, I talked about gotaways, right? A total estimate got aways entering the US since 2012. They say approximately 2 to 2.3 million. And this is an analysis from the Federation of American Immigration Reform. Right? And so gotaways are people that essentially nobody saw come across the border, that were smuggled in, nobody knows, or people that were processed, but they weren't processed correctly, you know, and so they're very, very wide ranging numbers on this, right? So gotaways, which do not include visa overstays, which are an estimated 600,000 to 700,000 annually. So people's visa expires and, and they stay regardless. That's 600 to 700,000 people a year are doing that. All right, all right, all right. There you go. So these are, these are our giant numbers. I didn't tell the actual number on Godaways. Hold on a sec. Where was that number? Yeah, 2 to 2.3 million. Some, some other conservative groups estimate that number could be 10 to 12 million. All right, all right. Now here's the other thing. Now this is where it becomes relevant for, for you and I, all right? Because obviously there are people who immigrate into this country for whatever reason there is. They come over and they're seeking new opportunities, right? And I'm willing to stipulate that the majority of, of illegals coming here are here because they want a better life, I'll give you that. Granted, however, there are definitive numbers or estimations, I should say estimations, because you never know whose statistics are correct. Government statistics, FBI statistics, homeland statistics, Red Cross statistics, you know, nobody, you know. To get dialed in numbers, you got to have somebody you know at every 10ft along the border with one of their little clickers. There's one, there's one, there's one, right? And that's an impossibility. So getting clear numbers is an impossibility.
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So the next numbers I wanted to give you because I need to set the stage for you to understand scale because scale as it relates to what happened, the catastrophe in Minneapolis of, of these engagements and the unfortunate deaths of, of Renee Good and Alex Preddy. Right. And my condolences to them and their families. But also my condolences to the ICE agents who are involved in those shootings as well as their families, as well as the other hundreds, if not thousands of ICE agents that have been docs. Their families are being threatened, their children are being attacked, they're being attacked with violently, all of that. Right. My condolences to all the parties involved that are feeling physical pain, emotional, spiritual pain right now. Right. This is something that could be avoided for sure. All right, so the next is crimes committed, and these are crimes committed by illegals since 2012. All right. And it says there is no comprehensive official national database that tracks immigration status of perpetrators for all crimes in the U.S. think about that. Think about that. We have a whole immigration, we have a whole border patrol, ice, hhs, but nobody has sought to synthesize, you know, the reporting coming out and remind you they do report federal crimes or aggressive violent crimes at the local level, to state level, to national level though there is a database that's interconnected that the bureau ends up collecting this information. But obviously since 2012, maybe some of this hasn't, hasn't worked or isn't working intentionally. Obviously we don't know for sure what the problem is. All right, and this is making exact counts of American civilians victimized by undocumented illegal immigrants since 2012. Crime data, state, local, federal sources often does not consistently record immigration status. Most studies focus on rather the absolute victim counts. All right, okay, so what I, what it ended up producing was Texas is the only state that's keeping track of this. So I'm going to read you some Texas numbers that are documented and I want you to extrapolate and expand relative ratios that go to nationwide and think about different cities that have massive illegal immigration populations because they've been designated as sanctuary cities. Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis, the Northeast, many places, all of these different cities that have just opened their doors and allowed these people to come in. But this is Texas, okay? Approximately 2500 to 3500American citizens were murdered by undocumented. Undocumented, undocumented immigrants since 2012. This is based on Texas data showing undocumented immigrants arrested for homicide at roughly half the rate of native born citizens that's 2 to 3 per 100,000 population. Population annually. All right, killed by drunk drivers. Approximately 1200-1800American citizens. All this in Texas. Killed by drunk driving. Incidents caused by illegal immigrants since 2012. All right, rates. Approximately 15,000 to 25,000American citizens were raped or sexually assaulted by illegal immigrants since 2012. Texas data indicates undocumented immigrants are arrested for sexual assault, about half the rate of native born citizens. 10 to 20 per 100,000 annually. Assaults. Approximately 100,000 to 150,000American citizens assaulted, including aggravated assaults by illegal immigrants. Arrests for felonious assaults in Texas are about half those native born, 50 to 100 per 100,000 annually. All right, now this is obviously estimate represents a small fraction of overall US violent crimes, right? Total murders since 2012 is 220,000 rapes of 1.5 million reported with assaults in the millions. All right, just process those numbers. Right, process those numbers. 220,000 murders since 2012, 1.5 million rapes reported. Millions and millions of assaults. This is what these activists are fighting against. This is what they're doing. And every on the ground reporter that I've seen that's been able to have some decent, logical, rational conversation with somebody when they get to that question of do you support rapists, murderers, assaults, drunk driving, do you support them staying in America? That's when their entire argument goes to hell. Because what is the rationale for that? Right? And then the, the only logical one that comes back is that they're afforded due process in the, in America. And I. And then the response is yeah, but they're not American citizens. Yeah, but they should have it or they, whatever. And so the argument that you're hearing that they're conflating is that regular American citizens are being attacked, deported. I heard one, one pub politician was making a reference that, oh, it was Tim Waltz himself who said, made a reference about Anne Frank. And that ICE is essentially eventually going to put people in ovens, right? And, and so there's these Nazi obviously, because that's where everybody goes to Nazism and everybody's a Nazi. And if you vilify someone as a Nazi, you have carte blanc moral justification to hurt assault docs destroy the lives of these people as long as they're Nazis. And that's part of right, activism, right? You label someone so it's okay for unsuspecting people and propaganda to then demonize others to the point of violence. And that's what's taking place. All right, now I want to talk a little bit about operations, ICE operations, right. Since 2025, the beginning, when Trump's. Because this is what Trump ran on again, this, you know this, I know this. This is what I voted for, right, Is to get rid of the threats. Now, also, the one I didn't include in there were, was terrorism, were terrorists. And Joe Kent, former Green Beret ground branch operator, is now the deputy of the Security Council underneath Tulsi Gabbard. He testified in front of Congress a few months back that he estimates, they estimate there are 14,000 terrorists in the United States. Terrorists, right. So now you combine that with all the gang members, all, all of the criminals, all of the country's dregs from all over these areas that have come here aren't assimilating and, and now we know are. Are engaged in massive fraud and corruption through federal, state and local programs. That's what you're fighting against. If you're an activist against ICE operations, that's what you're ultimately saying you're against. Right? You want to construct it as you're against a totalitarian fascist government. And that makes you feel better. Although you can't, you know, there's no definable, definable reality that you can break down that this is a fascist thing. This is abuse of the law. This is whatever. Because I'm gonna, I'm gonna read you the law here in a second too. All right? ICE operations. The first major ICE rage took place on January 23rd, two days, three days after he sworn in. All right, with an estimate 19 enforcement actions including arrests, ramped up immediate, with over 32,000 reported arrests in the first 50 days. As of January 26, ISIS conducted notable raids and arrests in at least 73 unique cities across the United States, right? Approximately. Regarding arrests, data vary slightly by source and methodology, but key figures for ISIS enforcement under Trump's second term include approximately 150,000 at large arrests. These are community based apprehensions by ICE. Combined arrests by ICE, CBP and other federal agencies exceed 595,000 as of December 10, 2025, with ICE arrests comprising the majority amid reduced border activity. A separate tracker showing a cumulative ICE and CBP arrests at 352,590 as of January 8, 2026. These numbers reflect administrative arrest for immigration violations, which have ramped up significantly, averaging over 800 per day, initially reaching about 1200 per per day by early 26. All right, so the American population voted. Trump ran on them kicking people out. I'm getting violent criminals out. I just read the numbers on violent Assaults, rapes, murders, drunk driving, accidents. I gave you that. Right. Numbers of illegals. Criminal, you know, criminal. I didn't do the criminal yet. Jordy, look up the estimated number of, of criminals that are in the country right now. See if you can find that. And then we, I talked about terrorists with Joe Kent and his number, 14,000. All right. Oh, okay. So this is what the American public voted for. Trump goes in office and begins and was conducting and immediately we saw rhetoric pop off from all over the place that they were doing this. Chicago, Louisiana. You saw it. They're just going out, they're hitting these hot spots of these sanctuary cities. And immediately we see elective officials ordering their local departments not to participate in support of federal agencies conducting these operations. All right, so the battle began early on. The battle began a long time ago. The moment Trump came down the escalator is when this battle initiated. So you have to get that right. Did you find something?
Jordy (Research Assistant)
I did. It says specifically criminal undocumented immigrants. Is that, that's what you were looking for? It says ISIS identified hundreds of thousands of non detained undocumented immigrants with criminal criminal records, for example, 435,000 as of mid-2025, including 13,000 plus with murder convictions. Historically tracked.
David Rutherford
13,000 with murder convictions. 13,000 convicted murderers walking around on the streets in America. Right. That's what you're subjected to and that's what these people are fighting against. They don't want those people ejected from the, arrested and ejected from the country. Right. And you have to ask yourself, why? Why don't these people want these criminals out of the country? And I'll get to that in a second. All right, so let's drill down now on, on Minneapolis because that's, that's what's taking place. This is where it's all coming to a head and you ain't seen nothing. This summer is going to be absolutely nuts going into the midterms. Absolutely off, off the hook. You're going to see. And I'll talk about money here in a second, but it's going to be crazy. All right, so as of January 27, 2026, Immigration Customs ICE has deployed approximately 2 to 3,000 agents to Minnesota as part of Operation Metro Surge. Now they've surged to 4,000 agents when things started getting hot. Now what they've also said after Trump apparently had a discussion with Tim Waltz and the mayor, Jacob Fry Frey, that they're bringing in Tom Homan. So, and they said they've had good conversations. So hopefully some de escalation of tension and there's going to be some integration support with this. All right. The key figure current as of 1-19-26 includes individuals convicted of serious crimes such as murder, child rape, drug trafficking and fraud. Some reports and statements from President Trump and ICE officials claim higher touches such as 10,000 arrests statewide since early 2025. So arrests were reported about early in the operation. As of January 6, arrests were reported about 1,000 indicating a rapid escalation. All right, so these are going after the worst of the worst. We saw all the stories about the young five year old boy who was with a criminal who ran and left his son in the car which then ICE took care of. We saw Renee Good who was moving her car to impede federal agents conducting the the real contested one right now is Alex Preddy. Obviously there's a bunch of play by plays and breakdowns. My conclusion on is he had every right to show up concealed and armed for sure, but he had no right to interfere with any federal officers being conducting federal Now I'm going to read you the law right this is the primary federal statute that criminalizes interfering, impeding, resisting or interrupting a federal law enforcement official or other designated federal officers employees which are engaged in the performance of their official duties. This is 18 USC 111 assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers employee the law explicitly includes conduct such as forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates or interferes with any person designated under 18 USC 1114, which covers federal officers and employees, including law enforcement personnel such as FBI, dea, US Marshals, Secret Services and ICE and homeland. Key elements the offense generally requires a forcible act, though courts have interpreted this broadly to include threats or actions creating reasonable apprehension of harm. It applies when federal officer is engaged in or acting on account of their official duties. Penalties vary by severity as structured in subsections. There's simple assault or basic interference resistance without aggravating factors punishable by fine title 18 and or imprisonment up to one year class A misdemeanor in many cases where the act where the acts involve physical contact with the victim or intent to commit another felony up to eight years in imprisonment. Where acts involve deadly or dangerous weapon, inflict inflict bodily injury or meet other aggravating factors up to 20 years imprisonment felony level with fines up to 250,000. All right. Section 1114 defines as the protective officers employee cross references all right. Related More specific statues interference with certain protective functions criminalizes knowingly willful criminalizes knowingly and willfully obstructing, resisting or interfering with a federal law enforcement agent performing protective functions. Example, under certain State department authorities, penalties are generally up to one year imprisonment. Now you can find this all just go Grocket or chap GPT. So anytime an individual interacts with federal officers while they're conducting their duties as at a base of misdemeanor. Right now I know what you're going to say. People have their first amendment rights to protest. That's true. If it's peacefully now, you might believe everything these people are doing. They're being peaceful and and I would agree that that Alex Preddy there is a fine thin line of what's taking place with with that incident and it's yet to be seen what the investigation is going to do. Do I agree that Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem and some other people are coming out cash patel and are saying that Alex Preddy was a domestic terrorist? I don't know about that. I did see a. A report today and I don't know if it's verified. I haven't had time to do that. That a few weeks ago he had. He received some broken ribs by another physical altercation with a federal agent and I haven't been able to confirm that. Will you look that up and see if that's. If you can find it Jordy. Just to confirm that. All right.
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Tony Robbins
Hey everybody, it's Tony Robbins. Look, the time is here. It's 2026 and everybody talks about having a new year and a new life. But what do most people do? They create a few resolutions and in the end they don't really do anything. If you want this to be the best year you've ever had in your life, it's going to take a new tool, a new strategy, a new momentum and maybe a new community of people to hang out with. So come join me for the Time to Rise Summit. I do it only once a year. It's coming up January 29th through the 31st. There's absolutely no charge for it, but it'll be an experience I promise you you will not forget. It'll give you momentum, a plan and a strategy to make 2026 the best ever. If you're up for that and you're hungry for more, come join me. There's no cost for it whatsoever. Just go to time to rise summit.com time to riseummit.com I'll see you then.
David Rutherford
Foreign. Now what's behind these people getting in the way of conducting these operations? First and foremost, I you know, the aggressiveness of these people is way more than just angry citizens. These are paid and trained activists. What we're going to do here is I'm going to this great reporter Cam Higby penetrated a signal chat that was hundreds and hundreds of these protesters and how coordinated they were in order to set up. There's another image that he can pull up as well and show that they gritted out Minneapolis and they have literal groups and sections that are running counterinsurgency operations against these ICE employees. What'd you get there, buddy?
Jordy (Research Assistant)
So, yes, it looks like, according to multiple reports, citing sources and records interviewed by cnn, Alex Pretty suffered a broken rib during a previous encounter with federal agents about a week before he was fairly shot in Minneapolis.
David Rutherford
Okay, so the idea that he's just some innocent VA nurse and he's not an activist is absurd. This guy was there for a reason. He knows if you show up at an ICE operation because you got on a signal chat and somebody told you where to go, it is what it is. You're, you're not going to dissuade me from understanding that you're actively trying to impede these operations. All right? You know, again, if you look at Cam Higby, data Republican, she's amazing person doing research, they've all discovered that these are trained activists that have these full counter revolutionary playbooks that they are interacting with what's taking place. And Jordy is showing it right there. And you can go and look that up. And this is a legit playbook. Listen, these playbooks have been around for 100 plus years, right? And a lot of these playbooks were actually counterinsurgency playbooks that our government created, our intelligence organization created, because guess what, we've run a lot of color revolutions ourselves over the last hundred years, if you will. We've run a lot of military operations. This is how it works. This is what counterinsurgency, counter revolutionary, whatever you want to call it, does. All right? Now, these people are paid by massive external NGOs and outside sources. The challenge we have right now is that you've got people like Governor Waltz, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, that was on that signal chat that he's showing right now as an administrator. You've got other people that worked in Waltz's organization. You've got a mayor, Jacob Fry, you've got other Republican or Democratic congressional members, Senate members that are saying this is against the law. This is, this is a totalitarian fascist regime, which is not true. None of this is against the law. It is not against the law to send federal ICE agents to remove people that have come here illegally, especially violent criminals. That's not against the law. Anybody who tells you that is. They're just, they're, they're trying to get you incense, they're trying to stoke a revolution. That's what this is. There is a large group of people that believe it. And this goes all the way up to the highest level. And I'm going to have Jordi play a little clip from a Rockefeller center presentation here that really Describes this thing.
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Democracy needs not only to be reformed but really in a way reinvented, reimagined for the kinds of challenges we face in the 21st century. In June of 2020 we issued this report, Our common purpose Reinventing American democracy for the 21st century. It includes 31 very concrete recommendations for changes to our institutions, our processes, but also ways to revive a healthier civic culture. We are now embarked on a campaign with partners all across the country to help advance these reforms to our democracy in order to restore, restore it, to save it, to keep it going.
David Rutherford
So when you know all that and you understand the magnitude of, of, of the resistance now I, I need you to understand the magnitude of resistance. All right, so I put in little thing who update previous how many leftists, external groups and, and what levels of money are being sourced? All right, all right, 2020. Approximately 25 to 35 billion dollars flooded into the American system from outside sources for these activist groups, right? European foundations, CCP link networks, all different types, domestic sources. George Soros Foundation, Open Society foundation. Two to three billion dollars was invested for these groups. All right, foreign funding, major donor amounts. The Quadra Quadrature Climate foundation from the UK 530 million. The Children's Investment Fund Foundation 553 million. The Oak Foundation 4 to 500 million. The KR foundation out of Denmark, 36 million. The Loud the Louds Foundation, Switzerland 20 million. CCP linked funding 50 to 100 million and this is led by U. S businessman Neville Roy Singham's network, a Shanghai base which is has ties to the CCP. 20 million to People's Forum, a pro Palestinian protest and then 710,000 to Breakthrough Media. Then there's other spot now domestic. It's just, it's in the billions. Arabella Advisors 6 to 8 billion in revenues since 2020 manages leftist funds like the New Venture Fund 1630 Hopewell Winward George Soros again I go back to them. BLM related organization 10 to 11 billion across groups like BLM, Global Network foundation, local chapters which by the way, a lot of that money disappeared. And then there's actual taxpayer dollars that come from government organizations like USID that feed international aid or NOS that come back into American foundations as well too. So the reality is none of this is organic. This isn't like your aunt and uncle up in, you know, just outside Milwaukee, like pissed off that ice is removing, you know, the, the cleaning lady at your local high school. It's not what this is. And stop trying to make it like it is. You're lying. You know you're lying. What you want is, you want a stoke revolution. And so what I want you to do is this is the fundamental question that, you know, we need to ask people on the left who, or even on the right, because now there are some, there's some people on the right that are withering under this pressure. They're like, this is absurd. We shouldn't be doing this, blah, blah, blah. And we even see them in Congress. I mean, 59 Republicans just voted to continue funding illegal immigrant programs to the tune of like $25 billion or something crazy. All right? So it's both sides, remember, because when they fund these, these go to NGOs in their states, it makes them look good with constituents. It gets some other whatever, so it doesn't really matter. There's people, there's people that believe illegal immigration is, is good for the country. And it's not your politicians, they're getting paid to vote this way. It's the people that want this illegal. And it's the Koch brothers, it's George Soros, it's a lot of industrialist globalists that want to change the face of America. That's what it is. So here's the question. Why are they protecting illegal immigrant criminals from being deported? What possible justification? And I'm going to have Jordy put up an image of, of a bunch of Americans that have been killed by illegals. And this image, when I want you to ask this question of yourself or ask your friends, right? And I want you to look at that list of people, right? Just look at the faces. There are real people that have been killed, murdered, raped, maimed by criminal illegals that are in our country at the willful desire of the Democratic Party. And why? Because it's their new voting base. The Democratic Party has gone so far left that it's fractionalized. The, the, the, the middle of the country. They don't want to be a part of radicalized agendas like crazy stuff. The get rid of the Constitution, boys can play in girls sports. We're going to have your tax dollars pay for the luxury new houses, full food, full supplement, full corruption of health care systems while they're sending billions of dollars back to their, their own countries and not reintegrated it into our society so they can keep, get elect getting elected because their base is so fractionalized. That's what this whole thing is about. And if you can contextualize it through the numbers, through the reality of what's taking place, then you can be able to really process the fact that we're not leading up to a civil war. We are in a civil war, right? We are in the stages where things are so divisive and so separate that it is impossible to now come together. So the question for you to answer, do you believe that illegals, criminal illegals should remain in our country? That's the question I ask you. 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Episode: David Rutherford Show: ICE vs Activists – Why Are Democrats Protecting Criminals?
Host: David Rutherford (with research assistant Jordy)
Release Date: January 28, 2026
This episode, hosted by David Rutherford—former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and performance coach—dives into the escalating national divide over U.S. immigration enforcement, specifically focusing on the recent Minneapolis unrest involving ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) and left-wing activist opposition. Rutherford unpacks the data, history, political context, and motives behind both sides. He argues that current activist resistance is more than spontaneous outrage—it's part of a well-organized, well-funded campaign, with complicity and support from high-ranking Democratic politicians.
No national data: Rutherford explains the lack of consistent federal records tracking crimes by immigration status.
Texas Data (since 2012):
Rutherford’s Critique: Activists and Democratic politicians gloss over these issues, resorting to extreme rhetoric (“ICE is eventually going to put people in ovens,” citing Tim Walz) to justify opposition.
ICE Operations Escalate: Operation Metro Surge in Minnesota (January 2026)
Legal Backdrop:
Key Quote: “It is not against the law to send federal ICE agents to remove people who have come here illegally, especially violent criminals. That’s not against the law. Anybody who tells you that... they’re trying to get you incensed, they’re trying to stoke a revolution.” (43:10)
Coordinated Disruption: “These are paid and trained activists.”
Evidence:
Political Ties: Names of high-ranking state Democrats found as administrators on protest group chats.
Funding:
Purpose: Rutherford posits these groups and their Democratic enablers want illegal immigrant criminals to stay as a future voting bloc.
On Hysteria:
Illegal Immigrant Numbers:
On Activist Rhetoric:
Criminal Aliens on the Loose:
On Funding:
Final Challenge:
David Rutherford, in his trademark direct and unfiltered manner, describes the ICE vs. activist showdown as a manufactured and coordinated insurgency. He accuses Democratic leaders of enabling a dangerous loss of rule of law and asserts that the surge in activism is driven by outside funding and political self-interest. For Rutherford, public safety, national identity, and the future of American democracy are on the line—and the battle in Minneapolis is just the opening salvo in what he calls an ongoing civil war for America’s soul.
For listeners seeking a data-driven, forceful conservative breakdown of the ICE/activist fight and its broader national implications, this episode is an urgent, provocative briefing.