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David Rutherford Show: Who Was Jeffrey Epstein Really Working For? | Alex Newman Explains
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the greatest conspiracy theories in the world always lead back to the Rothschilds Today my guest Alex Newman is going to connect them in the Epstein files today on the David Rutherford show. Mr. Newman, welcome to the show. I'm just going to jump right into it. The greatest conspiracy theory all seem to lead back to the Rothschilds in some way, shape or form. And that was the biggest way. People would be like, you're crazy, you're out of your mind. But the Epstein drop and you covered this recently in your great two episode series about the deep state. I know you've been covering those for years on liberty sentinel.org but can you please explain how the Rothschilds and Epstein are connected?
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Well, thank you very much for having me, David. It's an honor and a pleasure to be here. Really appreciate it. And you can't understand anything to do with these Epstein files if you don't understand the Rothschild connection, which is interesting because the fake media has talked almost nothing about this critical connection here. So if you look through the Epstein documents and there are still enormous numbers that we don't have. There are enormous numbers of redactions that are totally inappropriate and I would argue illegal. But based on what we do have, One thing is 100% clear. Jeffrey Epstein was working for the Rothschilds. There is no doubt about it. He specifically says so. The Rothschilds specifically say so. The only individual who is alive today who's been listed as a co conspirator, Les Wexner, publicly testified to that fact just recently before Congress. He actually said that it was the Rothschilds who recommended Epstein to him. It was led Rothschild. And he goes into a little bit about how that happened. And I guess for the people who don't know the Rothschilds, maybe that's a good place to start.
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Perfect.
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This is the most powerful banking dynasty in the history of the world. There is no other family like it. You know, we know about George Soros, the evil billionaire who funds all the radical left wing protests. George soros is almost entirely a creation of the Rothschild dynasty. His Quantum fund got its start with money from a Rothschild bank called Banque Privet in the French speaking part of Switzerland back in the late 1960s, earned thousands of percent returns. And so that's really where George Soros got his start. The same thing was true with Cecil Rhodes. So the Rothschild banking dynasty got its start over 200 years ago. Lord Mayor Amschel Rothschild had this great idea. He had five sons. He said, hey, I'll deploy them throughout Europe. We'll send one to London, we'll send one to Paris, we'll have one in Vienna, and basically we will create this banking network. And very quickly they figured out that the best way to make money wasn't necessarily to loan to productive enterprises, it was to loan money to governments. Right. Governments could go into a lot of debt. They were sovereign and they always needed money to fight wars. And so you would have the Rothschild banking dynasty, in many cases, funding both sides of the war. And when the war was over, not only would they get their money back, they would collect interest on that debt down the line for decades. To give you a sense of the power of this family, it's actually a decent book. It's written by a Rothschild apologist, so you gotta keep that in mind. This guy is a very pro Rothschild. His name is Niall Ferguson. He's kind of, I call him like a court historian, an establishment historian. He argues that in his book that the outcome of the Napoleonic wars, right, we're talking 200 years ago, was decided by the Rothschild family when they decided to put most of their financial weight behind the British government. And so you have a situation here where you have one family deciding the outcome of a war between the two most powerful governments in the world. And that's 200 years ago. So you fast forward to today.
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It is. I'm sorry to interrupt, but there's a piece of that that seems to be the most heavily contested was that they had a courier come back from Waterloo, knowing the, the, the outcome and then cornering the markets in England. Is that a true story? And then that basically established them as, as major controlling of the English monarchy. Is that, is that true?
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There's probably some truth to it. It's hard to know when you're dealing with a family like this. But it is absolutely true that the Rothschild dynasty has intelligence networks. They have access to the best information. In fact, as they brag on one of their bank websites, we've been at the center of the world's financial markets and we have unrivaled access to all the key players. And it's true, right? It's absolutely true. And so what happened with these Napoleonic wars, I think it's actually even worse than just having good intelligence and getting the information before everybody else and doing some sneaky things on the stock market. I think they deliberately, by putting their financial weight behind Britain, tipped the scales in that war and ended up basically causing the defeat of the French government in that war. They changed the outcome of history. And so that's talked about in the book. So you fast forward to today with Jeffrey Epstein. People say, well, who was Epstein working for? Where was he getting his money from? Well, I think there's a lot of answers to that question, but the one that's staring you right in the face is the Rothschilds. We've got a contract in these documents where the Rothschild Dynasty paid him $25 million in one go for the quote, unquote, work with a capital W. There's no real details on what this work entailed, but something about risk assessment and whatever. But you kind of see these interactions between Ariane Rothschild, CEO of the Rothschild Group, and Jeffrey Epstein, and it goes way beyond just business. They're talking like personal friends, marriage problems and things like this. And so when we talk about who did the Rothschilds work for? Well, what we know for sure, or who did Jeffrey Epstein work for, we know for sure the Rothschilds. In fact, Jeffrey Epstein introduced himself in some of his emails as a representative of the Rothschild when he was writing to Peter Thiel, he says, as you probably know, I'm a representative of the Rothschilds. So. So it's critical for people to understand this. And you can't figure out what was going on with Epstein unless you get this little piece.
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Well, and that's what I've been trying to do. Obviously my background, I always like to, you know, lead with the intelligence, collect connections. And there's many theories that he was connected to the SE, CIA, MI6, you know, Mossad, the Russians, the Saudis, the, you know, Cubans, because he's in the brokering ideas about that. And that creates, I think, this interesting pattern where people are, are confused by that. They're like, well, was he an intelligence asset or was he working independently as I. E. That someone that had that type of wealth or connectivity in terms of being able to, to money launder or, you know, I mean, that's, you know, his early time with Bear Stearns, his connections to Non Khashoggi, you know, all these other bizarre things. For me, the nexus of finance seems to usurp the, the, the connections to intelligence. Is, Is that how you read it as well?
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That's what I've been arguing for many years, David. I did a book in 2020 called Deep State the Invisible Government by Behind the Scenes. And we have a whole chapter in there about the intelligence agencies. They're important players in all this, but they don'. World. I think a much better way to understand the intelligence agencies is kind of like the operational arm doing the dirty work of what I call in the book the Deep State behind the Deep State. That would be Rothschild's Rockefellers. And by the way, the Rockefellers were all over Epstein as well. David Rockefeller invited Rothschild onto the trilateral commission in 1990. We've got a lot of documents about that. He actually served. Epstein served on the board of Rockefeller University. So he was very close with David Rockefeller. And David Rockefeller, just like the Rothschilds, helped build him up. But the intelligence agencies, people think of them as like agencies of government that protect national security. Nothing could be further from the truth. These are operatives for the Deep State behind the Deep State. And they use state cover to be able to get away with things that would be criminal activity in any other context. And we see that with Epstein. He was clearly connected with the CIA, he was clearly connected with the Mossad. In fact, when the U.S. attorney Alex Acosta was going after him, he was told, hey, this guy's with U.S. and allied intelligence, leave him alone. And that's how he ended up with this sweetheart deal where after raping and trafficking a bunch of kids, he pledged hundreds. Yeah, it's a one count of soliciting prostitution from a minor. So yeah, intelligence is involved here, there's no question. But Epstein and the Rothschilds, they're a step above the intelligence agencies.
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Now, we obviously they're, you know, what is it? Potentially 6 million documents that they say. I'm trying, like, for me, I'm trying to find, you know, a credible source that's, that's consolidating those using AI to where you can go in and search and go through and pull it out. Because I think some of the obfuscation that's taking place is that you flood the system. It's too overwhelming. By the time that people get to it, it'll be out of the news, we'll be bombing Iran or whatever else is going to happen to distract us from the Epstein files. How do you go about looking at these files? Because I think that's where a lot of people are struggling. The magnitude of information is so overwhelming. They're not sure where to parse out and how to kind of make those. I don't know, those silos of the unique, different aspects of his operations.
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Yeah. And that is very difficult to do. The Department of Justice's search function is not what we would like it to be. But I've spent a couple weeks on this now, and I've had people on my staff also spending an enormous amount of time on this, looking through these documents. I'm working on a cover story right now for the new American magazine, which I actually just sent in my first draft last night. But I've got a lot of work to do that should be published within the next couple weeks here. So we're spending a lot of time going through the documents. There's no chance that we'll be able to get all of them. We have tried to use some assistance from AI to try to process and make sense of them. But I think people need to understand too, this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is Jeffrey Epstein's unclassified, unencrypted email system. This is what he had to say through Gmail. We don't have access to huge amounts of files that the government is holding back. We know for a fact, in fact, documents talk about this, that Jeffrey Epstein ordered enormous amounts of documents and files destroyed. Somebody obviously tipped him off before some of these raids were going to happen. So there's enormous amounts of stuff that we don't even have so what we're looking at here, I think, is the tip of the tip of the iceberg. But even that shows you very clearly that this was a massive operation, that there's obviously this nexus with the Rothschilds, that there's this nexus with the Rockefellers, that intelligence agencies are involved. And I think we get a little bit of a sense of what he was doing. One of the things that I'm focusing on, in fact, my next episode of behind the Deeps Day is going to focus on the kind of transhumanist eugenics, the science angle. And I think that may be one of the most important stories. Jeffrey Epstein was right in the middle of this bizarre push to basically, these people believe they're going to take control of evolution. They believe that using genetic engineering and artificial intelligence and basically harvesting the genetic information from every organism on this planet and mixing and matching it, that they're going to be able to become masters of life, that they're going to become basically like gods. And this comes through really clearly in his conversations with Martin Novak at Harvard University, who ran one of the most important genetics and evolutionary operations at Harvard and in the world. It's very clear in his communications with the folks over at Arizona State University, which is run by Michael Crow, who, of course is the chairman of Ink U Tel, the investment arm of the intelligence community, the CIA. You see this in his communications with people at MIT and Columbia and ucla. So there's a lot of things that we're kind of seeing the shadows of. I would like to see more documents. I think the Department of Justice is totally out of line redacting a lot of these names. They were authorized to redact the names of the victims, not the perpetrators and his associates. So we've got a long way to go. But even just with what we've been able to find over the last few weeks, it's clear that this is huge and a lot more work needs to be done, frankly, I think by not just journalists, but criminal investigators.
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I agree, too. And that seems to be the problem. I mean, as like you said, we haven't seen the. The people who were the victims of the sexual abuse in the 302 interviews with the Feds. Right. We haven't seen any of the banking records because obviously, you know, when, you know, shady banking transactions, the government flags those for certain things. And so we. We can't even. And those were. I forget what other story those became super. Oh, with the Bidens. Right. And the Bidens, there was all these flag transactions that were coming from Burisma back In, you know, 10% for the big guy type of thing. Right. And. And so we know that there's a reality that. And then obviously, I think the. The ones that would be overwhelmingly dam, you know, any. Any information that the agency has. And obviously, if he goes back to Anand Khashoggi and the Iran Contra scandal in his role in washing money for whatever was going on, whoever he was working for, you know, those will be in the intelligence documents as well, too. So. Yeah, I agree. There's a tremendous more to this iceberg moving forward. Do you believe that Massie and Ro Kahan, do you think they have the political clout to get this ball to the next level, or is it going to require some type of political pressure from the MAGA base to get rid of Bondi? Right. To get rid of some of the other attorneys or maybe even people. I now the wor. The craziest one I see constantly is you got to get Susie Wiles out of the office. Out of office. Where do you. Where do we go now? And where does the pressure come from externally that. That begins to make move the breach, the walls, if you will?
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Yeah, that's a good question. We're actually seeing, and this is shameful, we're seeing a lot more progress on accountability in Europe than we are in the United States. And what's happening in Europe is nothing to write home about. I mean, you've had a few people resign, a couple of people be charged criminally, and I mean, that's a good start, but that's nothing compared to what we need. So I think a lot of the MAGA base is really disappointed with Donald Trump, and he has this. That he could go out and shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and all his supporters would still love him. And I think a lot of his supporters really do love him. But this is one of those issues that I don't think it's going away. Like, we're talking about the systematic rape and sexual torture and abuse of children. That's not something that's just like a minor political inconvenience. It gets to the essence of who we are as a people. Like, why do we even have a government if we can't stop this kind of horror against children? So I don't think Pam Bondi is going to be able to deflect and talk about the stock market indefinitely. Unfortunately, Massie has been the victim of some pretty ruthless smears. I like Massie. I think he's doing very important work, but he's really been isolated now in the Republican caucus in Congress. And so that's unfortunate. But what we're seeing now is other members of Congress also step forward. We've had Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. We've had Congresswoman Nancy Mace. We've had several of them. Congressman Tim Burchett recently came out from Tennessee and explained that some of this stuff was actually satanic. So there are members of Congress who are interested in this, and frankly, there are some Democrats who are pushing for this, too. I think they're still hoping that there's going to be some kind of, like, Trump scandal. You know, we've done some searches on Trump. We found that somebody whose name was redacted wrote to Jeffrey Epstein and said they were going to get rid of Trump by forcing him to resign instead of doing what they did to jfk. That's interesting. I'd like to know who said that and how did they know? What do they know about jfk?
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Right, exactly.
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So there's a lot of this stuff, but we'll see. I think without any question, we need to have prosecutions here. And when Pam Bondi was asked how many people are being investigated or indicted and she did not have a real answer, that was very disappointing. But I don't think Americans are going to let this just pass by. And hopefully what's happening in Europe will add some pressure to do something here in the United States. You know what's really embarrassing, David? The United nations, which is about the most disgraceful criminal organization in the world, is actually now putting out some good stuff on Amazon. Epstein, they're saying that these are crimes against humanity. We cannot have impunity. These people need to be prosecuted. So when the UN is doing more to expose Epstein Associates than your own government, you know you've got a problem.
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Well, for me it just goes back to this, you know, it's what in 1998, 99, Alex Jones and what's the guy from England? Ick David or whatever, you know, they're, they're telling us that the world is being run by satanic pedophiles who control every system. And you're like, hey man, you're out of your gourd. Well, Elon buys X. We finally have the floodgates open to people who've been doing extensive research like yourself for years and years and years. But somehow it was, you know, always quantified or classified in the conspiratorial, you know, distribute, distributed over and off to the side by mainstream music media. And now that's broken. I mean, when you just collectivize, you know, your show, Alex's show, Rogan show, Sean Ryan show, Megyn Kelly's Tucker show, you know, even all the other shows together, it usurps the, the numbers of mainstream media. They're Non. If they're non, they're non players anymore. But right now, the other interesting thing is you start to see consolidation of media groups. You see almost like a firewall that's being built up in order to protect potentially this nefarious criminal network. And so again, I go back to the thing. Is it a state, Is it someone like a Ken Paxton in Texas who just had a huge win against Vanguard, Black, Blackrock and State Street. Right. A 30 million dollar fine. Vanguard's like, all right, we don't want to play the game. We don't want to lose. You know, our sec standing. Is it somebody like a Ken Paxton, or does it have to be the next person, the next cowboy to come in does has a moral stance to fight against this level corruption? What, what do you. Where do you think the best avenue and approach could come from?
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Well, that's a good question. And I've been saying for a long time now that if the federal government, if the Department of Justice won't do its job here, there are plenty of other jurisdictions that have the authority and I would argue the duty to take the lead here. There is a nexus with all kinds of jurisdictions. Right. Epstein was in and out of New York. He was in and out of Florida. He was in and out of New Mexico. Nobody has searched this 10,000 acres ranch.
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Ranch, which is the transhumanism hub, Right? That's where all the labs were.
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Yeah. The New York Times reported five or six years ago that he had plans to impregnate 20 women at a time and seed humanity with his DNA. Like this is before the documents are even released. Are you kidding me? Why has nobody searched this ridiculous property? There's a reference in the documents to two dead bodies of girls buried on this ranch. Like you would think every sheriff's department, police department, state law enforcement agency would be there in a flash. But no, nobody will touch this. Why? Well, maybe Governor Bill Richardson would like to answer some of those questions.
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Oh, my gosh.
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But no, we need local district attorneys, we need state attorneys, we need state attorneys general. We need all hands on deck here. He was in and out of France. Right. We know Emmanuel Macron, another Rothschild agent, is not going to be taking the lead on any of these. But there are law enforcement agencies all over the world that have jurisdiction in these cases. And it is absolutely essential, if the DOJ won't do its job, that these agencies do, we can convene grand juries. I mean, there's a lot of ways to get at some of these people. And it's absolutely essential that we do. You know, I'm proud of the Norwegians. Right. The Norwegians just went after Torbjorn Jaglan. This guy had diplomatic immunity through his role at the Council of Europe, which is kind of like a EU style regional regime. And they actually, the Norwegian government asked the Council of Europe to please lift his diplomatic immunity. And he's now being charged with very, very serious crimes. It could see him go to prison for a while. So, so this is what we need to be doing. And if the DOJ won't do it, let the Norwegians do it. If the Norwegians won't do it, let the sheriff's department in New Mexico do it. But we've got to get these people in for questioning. And then we need criminal charges.
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I agree with you. I think a lot of these, you could do these localized municipalities, Palm Beach County Sheriffs, right. You could do, you know, the New Mexico sheriffs. You could go, remember there was the assistant DA down in the island of St. John's like the main assistant. And then she got canned Right. When she was about to file something against JP Morgan. Right?
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Yep.
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So, you know, there I agree with you. I think once it is, once you're filing. Right. What is it? It's about the ability to get past the firewall into real disclosure of financial documents. Always follow the money. Everybody knows that. And to where those could start to. To start toppling more and more people to where you get to somebody who had as much intimate understanding and knowledge of the operations. Right. From a financial as well as probably the network and how it worked and then being able to dispose that in, in depositions. I, I agree with you right there.
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And we can use the traditional tactics. Right. If somebody will turn on somebody higher up, we'll give them immunity. Right. Elon Musk pointed out that a lot of these girls who, who were victimized ended up being brought in as perpetrators as well, because that's better than any NDA will offer them immunity if they will testify, if they will hand over the documents and the information that they have. We've got to start getting creative here. The law enforcement agencies know how to do this. They just need to get a backbone and do it.
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That's right. It's about the backbone. And I think that's what we've seen now that we, we all figured it out in Covid. And by the way, your work during COVID was incredible too. You know, we all figured out we're being lied to at an epic scale now this confirms that the lie is systemic, it's global and it's at the highest echelons of power. So you know, I think all of us that are picking at the fringes as much as possible to kind of get the consciousness of different societies or different large bodies of people in particular voting blocks to force the people to move forward with, with these types of deeper investigations. All right Alex, what do you have next? Coming up and then also on this topic as well as other topics and then where can people follow you, find you? And then obviously I initially wanted to bring you on because your book you did with Robert Borton's which is incredible about the woke educational system which dates back to communism in the 1880s and which I'm sure there are Rothschilds connections there. So what do you have going on that people can find you and follow you?
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Well, thank you so much David. Yes, one of the big projects Robert Bortons and I just released Awoken Weaponized that you had him on your program recently. So thank you for that huge, huge expose of what's going on in the government school system. I think that's one of the most important topics right now. I'm very blessed to serve with Robert at Classical Conversations. He's CEO. I get to be a fellow and actually have my children enrolled there. It's a great program. I've got a big, like I said, cover story coming out in the new American magazine within the next few weeks here about Epstein going through all these different, different angles that we talked about but in much more depth. People can find that@thenewamerican.com if they're not subscribers even to the print magazine they can at least get the daily headlines for free. And then my personal newsletter, we send out two to three editions each week with the latest and greatest information. That's at Liberty Sentinel. S-E-N-T-I-N-E-L.org and then on X. Alex Newmanjou I've got some more books in the pipeline. Right now we're doing a revised second edition of Deep State the invisible government behind the scenes. Working on one about American history for our 250th anniversary. And we'll continue on this Epstein series for my show behind the Deep State as long as it takes. We're just going to keep nailing these people, keep exposing this stuff and we don't intend to stop until we run out of stuff to talk about.
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So awesome. Alex, I can't thank you enough man. Your work is phenomenal. Your patriotism and then your moral convictions, I think, are with what drive you. They drive me as well. And I'm just. I wish you all the best and bless you in your endeavors.
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Thank you so much, David. It's an honor and a pleasure to be here. God bless you, too.
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