David Rutherford Show: “WWIII Is Being Engineered” — Venezuela Was the First Move

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Episode: David Rutherford Show: “WWIII Is Being Engineered” — Venezuela Was the First Move
Air Date: January 14, 2026
Host: David Rutherford (guest-hosting for Clay & Buck)
Guest: “Em” (pseudonymous security/intelligence expert)

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the geopolitical machinations behind current global instability, asserting that World War III is being methodically engineered by a transnational “Praetorian regime.” Venezuela, they argue, is the initial move in a grander “sport of kings” which supersedes conventional state-to-state “great games.” The discussion, rich in analogy and conspiracy, frames Venezuela’s upheaval as orchestrated by hidden oligarchic interests leveraging intelligence, paramilitaries, and destabilization tactics worldwide. The conversation spans historical power structures, the loss of local sovereignty, the manipulation of narrative, and societal implications for the rising generation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Venezuela as a Geopolitical Chess Move (00:29–13:11)

• Beyond Oil, Drugs, and Elections:
  The upheaval in Venezuela signifies more than simple resource grabs or electoral manipulation. The “Praetorian regime” (a global managerial class rooted in historic Western power centers) aims to destabilize the region as part of a broader strategy.
  • “The Praetorians have controlled through the devil's legions... unaccountable paramilitary... a blend of cartels, blend of finance, double black book special op guys, straight up intel guys... all brought under one umbrella since World War II.” (08:01, Em)
• Venezuela’s Special Status:
  Since the 1970s, Venezuela has functioned as a Praetorian headquarters in the Western Hemisphere due to its capacity to self-fund through oil and minerals. Removing control here disrupts the regime’s regional foothold.

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2. Historic Context—“Sport of Kings” vs. The “Great Game” (01:57–07:32, 28:36–32:16)

• Power Evolution:
  Traditional “oligarchic war” (the “sport of kings”) shaped history until the 1800s and WWI, after which the “managerial class” and nation-state competitions (the “great game”) dominated.
  • “We haven't seen oligarchic war in pure form for maybe close to a century and a half, two centuries. That's what we're seeing.” (04:53, Em)
• Who Owns the Table:
  Players at the “high table” (managers, national leaders) are just pawns in the game run by those who “own the table”—the unseen oligarchs.

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3. Mechanisms of Control: Security & Assassination (09:19–13:12)

• Leadership and their security apparatuses are allegedly always controlled by the Praetorians via contracted special operations—leaving even top elites vulnerable to coercion by threats to family and self.
• Instance: The removal of Venezuelan President Maduro hinged on neutralizing his Praetorian-controlled security.

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4. Wider Implications—Iran, Israel, and Kinetic Pretexts (13:12–16:06, 32:58–36:17)

• The same playbook seen in Venezuela is allegedly being applied to Iran, with Western powers seeking regime change, manipulating paramilitaries, and setting up “color revolutions.”
  • “If the Praetorian regime realizes that a certain world leader is being approached by... the Russians or the Chinese... and that there's a good chance they're going to turn, you're going to coup them yourself.” (13:12, Em)
• The game is to pre-empt others’ moves, extract leaders, and ensure upcoming regimes are beholden to the Praetorians.

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5. Collapse of Local Sovereignty—The Loss of “Princes” (19:42–26:29)

• Severing the Divine Covenant:
  The erosion of local and aristocratic sovereignty (“Princes”) severed the connection between people, land, and genuine accountability, replaced by unaccountable bureaucratic and financialist power.
  • “When we did away with princes, we lost our connection to the divine... We handed ourselves into the hands of unaccountable bureaucrats and the managerial class.” (21:13, Em)
• Everything Became Financialized:
  Ownership and responsibility are now so opaque—obfuscated by endless financial derivatives and asset swaps—true accountability evaporates.

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6. The Art of Destabilization & Narrative Manipulation (26:29–28:36; 36:53–37:45)

• Kinetic street violence, factional infighting, manipulation of military leadership, and the use of bots/images as distraction are tools to see “what happens next” and shape new regimes.
  • “A lot of kinetic action takes place just to see what happens next... to see, to shape what's going to come next and who's going to pop up, who's going to show themselves.” (27:56, A)

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7. Recommendations for Young Men: Rebuilding Nobility & Community (40:01–53:18)

• Restoring the Divine Covenant:
  Reconnecting with purpose, local community, and constructive masculine roles is framed as crucial.
  • “We must restore the divine covenant. The divine covenant is the commitment to... individual sovereignty, the right to private property, and a balance of power.” (42:14, Em)
• Modern Knight’s Guidebook:
  Em advocates for young men to develop “knightly” virtues, learn real skills, and integrate tightly with their local communities (as opposed to chasing prestige or solely financialist success).
  • “Men of substance need to also start putting more damn time and effort and energy into the young men of their physical community.” (44:55, Em)
• Vocational Independence:
  Avoid debt, learn trades, become small business owners. The “knight”/middle-class role in history is extolled as a model.

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8. Contemporary Threats: Engineered Conflicts & the “Targeting” of Young Men (56:16–59:44)

• Young Men as Last Asset:
  The conversation circles back—asserting the only un-hypothecated asset left in Western society is its native young men, whom “they” (the regime) seek to destroy via unnecessary wars.
  • “We have only one asset remaining to us that hasn't been bought and sold... that's our young men. And now they want to send them away in wars to die in great numbers...” (56:16, Em)

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9. Gaming, Learning, and Agency (61:18–65:51)

• Leveraging Gaming Intelligence:
  Modern young men, adept at intricate online strategy games, possess untapped intelligence and adaptability. Em proposes using games and puzzles as educational/inspiration tools for awakening strategic thinking about real-world events.

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10. Final Reflections: Real War Is for the Soul (67:00–69:32)

• The true war is not for territory, but for the soul of the next generation; the old forms of kinetic conflict are a distraction from this battle for spiritual and civic renewal.
  • “We are at war for everything in our own lands... What stands in the way is our young men... The only thing that can stand in the way.” (67:04, Em)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "We haven't seen oligarchic war... in maybe close to a century and a half, two centuries. That's what we're seeing."
  [04:53, Em]

• "The Praetorians work with the ever-present threat of a knife at your child's throat."
  [10:00, Em]

• "We did away with our hard anchoring to the land... everything became virtualized."
  [24:41, Em]

• "The only asset we as a people have remaining is our young men... now they want to send them away in wars to die in great numbers."
  [56:16, Em]

• "You want these kids to get heavily involved in the world around you... feed that into the game."
  [63:16, Em]

• "We are in war. We are at war for everything. This isn't... this is war for everything in our own lands..."
  [67:00, Em]

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Timestamps | Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Summary | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:29–01:57| Why Venezuela matters beyond oil & drugs | | 01:57–07:32| Historic “sport of kings” vs. modern “great game” | | 08:01–13:12| How intelligence/paramilitary amalgam controls regimes | | 13:12–16:06| Applying the Venezuela playbook to Iran | | 19:42–26:29| The loss of "Princes," localism, and sovereignty | | 27:56–32:16| Chaos as “loyalty test”; what happens after regime change | | 36:53–37:45| Firsthand accounts of U.S. involvement in global proxy wars | | 42:14–47:12| The divine covenant, nobility, and restoring male purpose | | 56:16–59:44| Young men as a targeted “last asset” | | 61:18–65:51| Using gaming for learning, community rebirth | | 67:00–69:32| The “real war” for the soul of the next generation |

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Summary Tone

• Conversational but urgent
• Analytical, historical, and at times conspiratorial
• Actionably inspirational for the audience, focused on restoring community, virtue, and sovereignty

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This episode is a sweeping, sometimes labyrinthine dissection of current events, reframing state-level crises as expressions of deeper, centuries-old power games. It uniquely ties together geopolitics, community, masculinity, and generational renewal with both skepticism and hope—offering listeners a framework for both comprehension and self-empowerment amid global uncertainty.

Transcript

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human Venezuelan politics. Oil, drugs and elections. This is much more than what you think it is today on the David Rutherford Show. Em, welcome back to the show, my friend.

[B]

Pleasure to see you. And hopefully the holidays are solid.

[A]

Absolutely. Same to you, my friend. Happy New Year. All right, first question is, obviously Venezuela is a big play, but there's obviously a deeper context. It's, you know, everybody, what we're seeing is it's, oh, this is about the oil. Oh, it's about drugs. Well, no, it's not. It, that's Mexico. Or this is about the elections being stolen and dominion voting systems. But, you know, how would you first assess what's taking place with this particular incident? And then we'll move to a broader perspective.

[B]

We are fully committed, along with Russia and China, to remove this Praetorian regime and its pathocracy, I think, is what we talked last time from the world stage, particularly given that, you know, for all intents and purposes, Rome, Venice, Amsterdam, City of London are, you know, the, the managerial class for this praetorian regime. You know, this, this hidden, not so well hidden, but, you know, this, this, you know, when we're doing unconventional warfare, what do we do? We go in and set up shadow government, we go in and set up shadow services, we go and set up shadow forces, et cetera, et cetera. Well, that's the way this praetorian regime. Guess where we learned it. Right, Exactly.

[A]

So it's funny, you know, there are a lot of people who believe that tactics are, are new or, you know, when, when this, this type of. Of what, currency, political, religious manipulation is old. As old as civilization itself.

[B]

Correct. Yeah. So seven elements of power, right? They've been around forever, right? So we are fully committed to arc, you know, America, Russia, China, to diminish substantively the praetorian regime's ability to take the world to World War iii. That's the primary, because that's nuclear war, right? It'll go nuclear and it'll go nuclear quick. So it's not that Russia and China are our friends. They're also not our enemy, and they never really have been. In fact, Russia has been more America's friend than any other country out there. If you want to talk about America's greatest ally, it isn't Israel or anybody else. It's Russia. Russia. The United States wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Russia. In the 17 and 1800s on and on more than one occasion, they had to get involved on the world Stage. What it is, though, is that Russia and China are coming out of their own collapse and they're recovering and they're recovering well. Now China's, you know, removing the last. This Praetorian infrastructure in China, that's what Xi's about. That's why they're trying to coo him so hard right now. And unfortunately, some very, very intelligent guys I know from our world are all about it. And I'm like, sorry, guys, you don't understand what's actually really happening. But point being is that the Praetorian regime, you know, the Praetorian system, you know, Praetorian regime is probably the best way, has been trying to draw us into World War III against Russia and China. Although that's ludicrous, the China one, that's not working. And so now what do they have to do? They have to use all of their devil's legions, you know, their shadow government, shadow ass, etc to try and draw us into, you know, a more complicated way of back, you know, walking us through the back door into World War iii, since they can't go in through the front door to World War iii. And so Russia, neither Russia, China, nor a substantive subset of America's oligarchs want World War iii. So what are the Praetorians doing? They're doing everything in their power to destabilize as much of the world as they can, right? So there's two. I've. I've written 26 lessons, you know, sport of Kings lessons. What's happening right now, what we're seeing and why it makes it so difficult for people to really parse it out, is that we have not seen the sport of kings, which supersedes the great game for a century plus, maybe 2 century, you know, a century and a half, shall we say, since the 1800s, since the Gilded Age. And so we don't really recognize. All we've seen is the great game, you know, this manager of class, nation state game against each other, you know, et cetera, et cetera. We haven't seen oligarchic war in, you know, pure oligarchic war in maybe close to a century and a half, two centuries. That's what we're seeing. That's what makes it so hard for us who grew up in these managerial systems and structures to really kind of parse out what's actually going on.

[A]

What would you say was the last kind of Imperial war, war against kings and, and the like?

[B]

The last. Well, the last time the sport of kings was played to manipulate us into a larger war was late 1800s and early night, early 1900s led to World War I.

[A]

Right.

[B]

World War II. And walking us into World War II was the great game that was more the managerial class. But the last time the great game, the sport of kings were playing together that walked us into a war. And unfortunately the managerial class and their great game was playing the kings, the actual kings. That was World War I, before that Crimean War, some other conflicts. Right. But most of them aren't wars. Right. So oligarchic oligarchs try not to go to kinetic war with everything they are. Why? Because the oligarchs are the ones that have the physical assets that are going to get destroyed and taken.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're the ones are going to actually have to pay for it for, you know, out of their current wealth, maybe lose all their wealth, which happens, right, like the founding falls of the United states tried for 30 years to not go to, to civil war become revolution. They only signed the document, you know, signed the Declaration of Independence where they swore, you know, their lives and their fortunes to this great endeav. When they realized that, you know the statement we're either going to hang individually or going to hang together. Right. Well that's how oligarchs think. Right, Oligarchs. Because. And again, half of the American founding fathers lost everything and never recovered it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. And quarter of them lost their lives. Yeah. So oligarchs try all seven elements of power. You know, they try to not use the M. Right. The Marshall and the Dimmethal. Right. Diplomacy, information, military, economics, finance, intelligence and law enforcement. They try to use the other six and minimize the M as much as possible. So the last time I think we saw an oligarchic war was really the 1800s. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so what, what does Venezuela represent in. In the impact on the moves that that Petorian guard is.

[B]

Is.

[A]

Is trying to. Trying to set that chessboard, the world chessboard in a way they can get us to where they want, which you believe is World War iii.

[B]

The Praetorians have controlled through the devil's legions, right. You know, which is their unaccountable paramilitary, which is, you know, a blend of cartels, blend of finance, double black book, special op guys. It's actually straight up intel guys, you know, it's end of all that and it's jihadis and cartels and all, you know, they've all been brought under one umbrella since World War II. Right. Which is what the GWAT was about. GW was about ensuring that there was no competition for, you know, the intelligence communities. Off the books paramilitaries. Right. Venezuela since at least the 1970s has been a Pretorian owned headquarter outpost in the Western Hemisphere. How do they own it? Was it something like 32 Cubans that were killed in this action here? That was the inner security, that was his close insecurity. Why do you have Cubans? They weren't. Were they from Cuba or were they just Cubans? Were they Bay of Pigs related Cubans? Right. This is the Praetorian problem. The Praetorians own and control most of the security assets for most of the leaders around the world. Those countries don't control them.

[A]

It was interesting. I, I, Max Blumenthal posted a clip from a 199360 Minutes piece that did an investigation that the CIA was working with the Venezuelan National Guard and, and distributing drugs into the United States on diplomatic planes or you know, planes all over. And it's like, oh, oh, okay, well that makes a lot of sense, right? If, if you're going to get in there and you're going to be able to manipulate the organization that's supposedly running it with its influence from us, from the Russians, from Iran or whoever is.

[B]

Going to pay the most or just a conscience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean this is why I call it the Praetorian problem. And I went back and studied the Praetorians and I might or might not had a certain incident with a guy you and I know in common from your world that really kind of some years ago in Palo Alto, that really opened my eyes. The thought that anybody in particular the west, but in much of the world, the thought that these high net worth people, these power people actually control their own security is a ludicrous thought because that's how the Praetorians work. The Praetorians work with the ever present threat of a knife at your child's throat. And if you take a look, if you see that and you realize that, and you realize these people are owned and controlled by their security details. And then who owns and controls that? Usually it's certain contracting companies, you know, make the, the master contracts with certain individuals and they all trace back to special operations, whether British or, or American. And every one of them's got at least time with GRS or some contract to the CIA or they're badged, right? Or the equivalent in, you know, you know, the United Kingdom French Secret Service, you know, all of that, right? So the way in which the Praetorians, the Romans work is they don't need to own and control all these things. They just need to be your security detail. And every once in a while when somebody gets online, they kill one of the family members. One of the Rock Cliff one of the Rothschilds died. David Rothschild died in 2020. I remember that Ray Dalio's oldest son died in a car accident.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

How many Gettys were taken and ear sent back? Right Bunch? Yep. Right. Rockefellers as well. Ross, you know, so point, you know royals. Right. Lady Diana was probably a message to the sons.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Right. So you know these Pretoria. You know the way in which this system and regime was put in place in 1947 with the chartering the CIA and the re chartering of MI6 was specifically designed to ensure that world leaders security was owned and controlled by the Praetorians. And so if you, if you want to take Venezuela off the table as a head a regional hemispheric headquarters that can self fund with oil sales and mineral sales etc. So that you know, because that's the other thing. When these Praetorian assets, these devil's legions get into a country, if you look at where those countries are, they can self sustain their operations without any foreign appropriations or budgets or anything else based off of natural resources. They can either sell into the open market or the illicit market. So okay, if I was going to take Venezuela off the table for the Praetorians, I'd take out the security team for the President and I'd remove and I would work with him and talk with him indirectly probably through the Chinese.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I'd get it all set up so that we go in under the auspices of taking the President out. Which you know, his time's done anyways. He's and I'll pause him, put a pin there because we got to come back to that because it's Iran. But I would make sure on my way in or out that that security detachment that's owned and controlled by the Praetorians does not live. Right. And right and then. Okay, now let's look at the irgc. Is the irg. Does the IRGC work for the Ayatollah? Has the IRGC ever worked for the Ayatollah? Or has the IRGC always worked for Britain and France going all the way back to Sykes Pico over a century ago. Right, right. So okay, Israel hits Iran when they kill IRGC commanders. That's right. Specific what, what's happening right now in Iran. Right. So if, if the Praetorians. Right. This Praetorian regime realizes that a certain world leader and a certain regime is, is being approached by you know, the Praetorians enemy us for all intent or the Russians or the Chinese and that there's a good chance they're going to turn and join orc. You're going to coup them yourself. You're going to create a color revolution. You know the Praetorians are going to create a color revolution to make sure that who and remove the current leadership and probably kill some people and do some things and blame it all on us. And but they're going to do it specifically to make sure that who replaces the current leadership is it is theirs is owned and controlled by them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so what do we have to do? We got to remove that person first. But we don't go in and kill them. We're going well the conditions got to be set etc but we, we recover them, we move them to safety like, like Assad to, to Russia like Maduro. Here is the Ayatollah. Next is I Khomeini. Next is he's the next one that we're gonna you know we or, or somebody else is going to, you know the Russians are going to extract but in the process there's going to be a good number of the close in Iranian security detail. They're just end up dead. The British owned ones.

[A]

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[B]

Well, it's a great question, David. Great question. I mean, I think we have to parse out two things. The why is it so difficult? And then the other is how. Because how is. We're just bombarded with massive amounts of information that's just trash and nonsense. And, and we have 287 known built in cognitive biases into the way the human brain works. And you know, so we're linguistic monkeys and because of that we're too easily hijacked through words. Right, this magic of words. So that's. That's the how. Right, the why. The why it works is because. And this was the whole purpose behind liberal democracy, the whole push behind the Enlightenment. Now I want to separate out the Scottish and English Enlightenment from the continental European, Roman Enlightenment, because it was fundamentally different, the severing of our relationships as a people with our local princes. And I don't mean. I don't mean as hyperbole, I mean that literally with our dukes, our earls or barons severed what was lost in that effort that went over centuries and, you know, really culminated in World War I and then finalized in World War II, where, you know, down with princes. Princes are done. We killed a lot of them in the trenches of Europe in World War I and World War II, but really, World War I slaughtered entire, you know, noble houses and royal lines, some of them, over a thousand years. But the point I'm getting at is that the. The tethering of a people to their local prince and their local land and reality was lost. And in that, we lost something very profound. We didn't, you know, we didn't think about. Some did, because again, the Scottish and English Enlightenment people were talking about this. They weren't talking about down with Princes, they were just talking princes needing to step their game up. And here's how they need to do it, and here's how the people need to step their game up, such that, you know, collectively can do this. But the point is that when we did away with princes, we lost our connection to the divine. And I don't necessarily just mean the divine of God or the gods or however you work, you know, you believe. But we lost that divine covenant between a people and their leaders and the land and the pro and the fruits of that land, you know, the productivity of that land. And we went into. We be, you know, we then handed ourselves into, you know, our future, our lives, our fortunes, into the hands of unaccountable bureaucrats and a managerial class and the financialists. And without that tethering to a local elite, who's a true elite, who you can also hold accountable because you know where they live and they're directly tied to the land and assets. They can't just slip it into some offshore bank account, right through 13 different trusts and all this other stuff. We had a. We had a vested interest to really know what the hell was going on locally and to be involved. And we had a sense of the divine covenant that is the responsibility of a people and their prince with one another in the land and, and other peoples, and we lost all of that. Everything's been financialized, it's been derivatized, everything's portable, trans. You know, everything's movable. Like one of the things that really drives our world, that keeps us all. If you look at asset management companies and you look at assets, values are going up parabolically, but the owner of the asset changes about every quarter, every year. They're constantly changing out ownership between these elites. Why? Because much of that relates to a physical, tangible asset somewhere in the earth or productivity or a population of people. And if you knew who the owners were, they would be accountable.

[A]

Right, right. So that's why it's, it's so fascinating to me the, the dynamic shift recently with Jamie Dimon, Larry Fink, the other towards the, the, the bitcoin reality.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

As.

[B]

Because that's the ultimate. Yes, that's the ultimate. Because how do you, how do you take it? But how do you repossess. Right, because what is it? It's a contract or it represents some contracts. Well, how do you represent ethereal contracts? Right. That's the whole point. So that's right. To your, to your point. We, when we did away with princes, we lost something profound. And that was our anchoring to the land, the assets, the productivity of that land and our obligation to one another as people on that land. Everything became virtualized. And now who owns what and who has obligations for what. And it's probably hypothecated 700 times or 700 layers of derivatives by now, by the way. Right, right, right.

[A]

So 700 layers of.

[B]

700 layers of derivatives.

[A]

Three, what, 300 and some odd trillion in shorts right now. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's. It's five quadrillion in derivatives. Five quadrillion. It's just ludicrous. It's just, you know, you know, to make it. Again, not to belabor a point, but yeah, when we did away with Princes, we did. We did away with our hard an.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

And so then it makes us so hard. There's two parts to that. You know. Again, back to the question. One, because we don't have an anchoring in humanity over, you know, in reality, hard reality, over the last several centuries, we don't even remember really what reality is or how to assess it. Right. And then the other piece is, is the more fundamental piece, and this is what they keep preying on is we don't want to admit that we really messed up when we Princes.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

And they feed, you know, that's the message that's been fed for 400 some odd years heavily everywhere. If you, if people really take a step back and look at the messaging, the most common prevalent message in all forms and fashions across every domain, in every channel, with virtually everybody is about, you know, still the down with princes. We don't need no princes conversation.

[A]

No kings.

[B]

No kings. Well, guess what? But it is the princes, the oligarchs who are giving us a chance to turn this around. It wasn't the common people. Isn't the common people. It is princes doing this. And they are the ones who are, you know, at constant threat of assassination, their families being assassinated, their assets being. Right. So I think that answers your question.

[A]

Yeah, no more than enough. Thank you for that. You know, I think one of the hardest things is, you know, again, you, you, you commented and I just, you know, saw this just yesterday as well today. Someone was just constantly putting out, hey listen, 50 some odd percent of the stuff you're seeing is coming from bots in terms of, you know, it's a completely fabricated distraction narratives. Yeah. Reality, which is where they want to keep us focused in. But there are some hard truths that resulted in what's taken over. And I don't know if you, you saw some of the news coming out of, of yesterday in Venezuela. I know you took a day off which was entirely needed as I hope you got that time, that little break. You know, there is already. I saw, you know, speeches by Chavez's daughter, I saw speeches by Maduro's son, I saw the head of the military saying I'm taking over. Right. You saw gunfire around the palace last night. And so you know, what benefit is on a more short term reality as obviously, because a lot of people like the natural question is what happens next? Well, what a lot of people don't assimilate is that a lot of kinetic action takes place just to see what happens next.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

To see, to shape. That's right, to shape what's going to come next and who's going to pop up, who's going to show themselves where. And you know, I saw you, you did a wonderful show with Clay a few weeks ago and it was like, all right, the loyalty test. So can you talk a little bit about that as to what happens when these type of operations? What, what are the, the opposing players of the Praetorians like what are, what are we looking for now or not? We, what are they looking for right now as we're just kind of sitting here waiting to chew on it.

[B]

Yeah, of Course they're looking for. Okay, so let me take a step back and. And again, to reiterate something. The sport of kings is above the high table. The great game is, you know, to use the John Wick reference that Tom and I. Tom started it, but now I'm using it as well because it's very solid.

[A]

It's so good. He's so good. Like, I thank you for like introducing me to him. Not technically, but by doing shows with him. And the way you guys feed off each other's phenomenal. I'll. I'll repost some of your stuff. You guys have done wonderful for my audience. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Wonderful. So we'll, we'll. I think we use it. I think it's very, very solid. So those who sit at the table and those who come to the table are playing the great game, but those who own the table, who never sit at it, are playing the sport of kings. So, okay, in the sport of kings, what does the sport of kings do? It plays the great game players as a sport. So these folks that think they're all powerful and they're in control and they've got this and they got that and they own narratives and they own message and they own the media and they own the, you know, the knives and the throat, etc, it's like y' all are just playing a game. You're playing a kids game. It's dangerous, it's. It's ruthless. It's for everything. But you're just kids. We're gonna play you. We're gonna play you. Now, we can't dictate how that, you know, it's a sport. Right. You can't dictate. Well, unless you're the NFL, NBA. And that seems to be dictated now. I stopped watching some years ago. Right. But you know, okay, we're going to play the sport. We can't know exactly how this is going to play out, but here's the, here's what we're trying to do. Okay. Venezuela, before they pulled Maduro out, they'd already had conversations with the executive who's the, you know now the president, and with military leaders and others. Again through direct conversations, but mostly, I suspect, through the Chinese and the Russians. Interesting. There was a Chinese delegation there and it's interested in the Chinese military technologies and weren't used.

[A]

That's right. Almost as if they were shut off.

[B]

Almost.

[A]

Don't tell me we were that good. An F18 pilot is that good, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a whole lot of so this was an ins. So what are we doing? What's happening right now and I suspect this is in Iran right now also etc is first off, like I said earlier, we are removing. Moving to remove the old regime leadership and take out that, you know, the Devil's legion's Praetorian guard such that. And then having conversations with individuals who will then sit at that high tech, you know, that, that country's role, you know, spot at the high table and, and then backing and supporting them in any way in ways that we can. However, if they can't handle the Praetorians reaction and response, they shouldn't be sitting at the table in that position because they're not strong enough and we can't prop them up and support them. This is what happened in Syria. Assad actually demonstrated that he was able to build coalitions, he was able to maintain. He was able to dance this very sophisticated dance which isn't so bad from an ophthalmologist. Right. Freaking eye doctor.

[A]

Well when you know his family history and legacy that correct. They've been playing it for a long time.

[B]

He learned more at his father's table than.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

[A]

They were, they weren't just playing connect.

[B]

No. It's usually the, the younger or middle son that nobody's paying attention to turns out to be the one that really learned the lessons. So you know what's happening now. We, we remove Maduro because his time was done and, and he's got all kinds of things he can tell us us and he wants to survive because you know the British and Roman, which is really Roman but you know this is being run out of the city of London and their assets, they were going to kum Maduro and put this Machado person in there. It was so bloody obvious. Well, we did it first. We got it. We gave. We'll keep you alive. Protective custody. Right. We'll embarrass you a little bit but you're going to get to live. Right?

[A]

Well the greatest are the photographs of him and the origin Jersey Jocko. You know, it's all over the news because of it. But like, and if like he's smiling, you could tell there's relief on.

[B]

He tries to live. This doesn't happen very often. Yeah right. Because what was coming for him was those Cuban security guys and they were going to kill him in his sleep one night in his family. So he's out of there. We did, you know, we had conversations with the executive who's now the President according to their constitution. So we're doing it all constitutionally, right? Etc. And now we have to kind of wait and see and back and support where we can at a distance to see if that administration, you know, the new administration can handle what the praetorians throw at them, you know, and you mentioned two vectors, right? The military, you know, factions in the military, and then Machado and her group and then Maduro's son, right? So we wait and see, right? It's the same thing that we're doing in Iran right now. The British are all in, as well as the CIA, the Praetorians are all in on couping the Ayatollah and putting their own. Putting the Crown prince, right? Putting the Shah's son on the throne. They're all in, openly stating it, right? So what do we do? So what did Trump do? Trump comes out and unfortunately I hear too many, again, big brain guys from our community, right? Some of whom are actually, are big brains, right? And they're all for this change, regime change. It's like, come on guys, you don't really actually understand what's happening. So what did Trump do? He didn't come out to support. And nobody in the administration has come out to support the, the rioters, you know, the, the coup attempt, but also hasn't come out to support the Ayatollah and the current regime. What he did, what they did say was if you start killing, you know, if you just go gun battles in the street and start killing the rioters, we will, we will. Rioters. Okay, well, that's the right thing to say. So now what are we doing? We're waiting to see if the Ayatollah and the current power regime can survive, right. Without going to just, you know, massive bloodshed. Because then, you know, then, then we're supporting baby killers again, right? But if they can't, you know, like, why do we move C17s closer over there? And more importantly, what's on those C17s where they come out of, Right? None of that is none of the stuff that's on those birds or where those birds come from or what would be on those birds is for anything but surgical operations.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

And sustainment operations of surgical operations. Okay? If the, the current regime can't get this under control properly without going to pure violence, which they don't want to do anyways, then I suspect we or the Russians will extract them. But we will make sure that the regime that comes in after isn't this British regime that they want in power there because then they backdoor us into World War III in Central Asia probably by just wiping Israel off the map.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

So what I would do, right, if I'm thinking like a Brit, which my ancestry is, that's what I do. I'd take Iran and then I'd use Iran's proven abilities to strike anywhere in Israel that they want to.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And I just wipe Israel from the map. Everybody hates Israel now because they're genociding Gaza or.

[A]

Right. And what, what is anybody going to say? Right. Their, their lack of support is tanked so substantially. And yeah, I, you know, I think obviously I don't want to interject my opinion in any capacity because, you know, I'm obviously, I'm trying to just like many of you who are listening, I'm trying to gain my assessments on the scale with which you have to look at this, the board in play as.

[B]

It'S all changing openly.

[A]

Oh, it's so fast. It's so fast. Just when I think I'm getting one piece.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, I'll watch, I'll listen to you say something. Then I'll listen to a couple of the other people out there that I'm following pretty intensely and what they're saying and I get these little nuggets and I'm trying to connect the dots and, you know, and without, you know, you know, without really understanding because like everybody else, even through my time at the Agency, I didn't know anything. I was just one of, one of the tools they used. And then, you know, it was probably, I don't know, I think it was when everybody was fighting ISIS where I started to go and wait, what, what's going on? And I'm hearing my buddies are actually working and training Al Qaeda ISIS fighters against Assad. And I'm like, what?

[B]

Yeah, guys, I went through the Q course who were put in a special program before they even got out of the Q course specifically going to.

[A]

But yeah, totally. And so that's when that's allegedly.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. That's 100%. I was recently told as I, as I was as I got to host Clay and Buck's national show by somebody that was kind of coaching me on, on a radio office. He's like, you know, don't be afraid to use the term allegedly quite a bit. And I was like, check. That's a good, that's a good heads up. So allegedly, right? And I love how so many hosts are like, they start the whole show out, let me say Everything that happens after this is allegedly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, but I think as. As we're starting. And I love that you call it arc. Right. And I don't know if you're familiar, you know, Jordan Peterson started the ARC group in Europe last year, and it was to be a counterpoint to the we.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was the. I forget what he called of it. You know, I forget what it was, but he called it ark, too. And I find it interesting now that the term ark is. Is. Is emerging more rapidly as. As you know, that there's this correlation between, you know, the United States, Russia, and China as the true superpowers of what's taking.

[B]

The only remaining.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. That's it. And. And. And that alliance or allegiance is. Is becoming more and more clear, I think, to people. And, you know, just you. You. You know, you see people starting, what, four or five years ago, you know, really pushing back against the narratives in Ukraine. And you're called a Putin apologist, you're called a communist. You're calling all this stuff.

[B]

I've had death threats. Literal death threats.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Because people that speak at your level that, you know, that's an informational threat, you know, for sure. And not that I draw any more attention to it, but I think you do the best job out there of describing the chessboard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, next question. As. As this world hegemony shifts. Right. And. And the owners of the. The boards or the owners of the table, of the high table are now under threat. How do. How do young American men. Because that's. That's who they're trying to drive into these conflicts, wherever they might be. How would you recommend. First they educate themselves as to the totality of what's taking place, and then how do they educate themselves to what. To grow into what the. What the divine influence is naturally there for. For young men always and always has been. Right. Which is the drive towards that honor or courage or the.

[B]

The.

[A]

The underlying components of our human behaviors that. That allow nobility to emerge. Right. Real nobility. And. And. And, you know, the other line component.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. Y question. We. And again, I don't. I'm not a Christian. I. I went to Christian schools. I went to private boarding. Christian boarding schools, Catholic included. So I do have somewhat of a fairly extensive understanding of it, but I'm, you know, deeply Norse down underneath. You know, I'm. I'm Norse Norman on both sides of my English and Scottish families. So. So. So give me a second. So When I say divine, I don't mean necessarily, you know, to the church or relation to the church. Right. I mean something much more fundamental and, and profound. We, we have to restore the covenant with the divine. And what is that? That is the, the covenant to one another. Right. That covenant, you know, in the English peoples right specifically is the individual sovereignty, the right to private property and a balance of power. Right. That's the covenant that, that created our civilization. And oh, by the way, it was three kings in a row who brought that about and fought it out. Right. And then nobles who fought it out, you know, across centuries thereafter. It wasn't just, you know, the people, it was this individual sovereignty right to private property. And the balance of power was set in motion and maintained, sustained by nobility, actual hereditary nobility and monarchy. So we have to restore the covenant of the divine, which is the relationship between us, ourselves in our own lands, with that land. So back to the question you asked, Young. First off, there is no divine covenant between me and somebody in Mexico or, or continental Europe or Russia or China or Ukraine or anywhere in hell in the United States. I'm out here in the West, I barely got a divine covenant with the people in New York or, or Colorado or Wyoming or Montana. You know, I'm, you know, the United States is huge part, particularly out here in the West. Most of our states are bigger than European countries, right. So in our whole, you know, the US itself is bigger than all of Europe, including the British Isles and then some. Right. So, you know, first thing is that there is, we must restore the divine covenant. The divine covenant is the commitment to those three principles amongst ourselves. And that is only associated with our own. That is only related to our own community, our own home, our own lands. We owe no obligations to anybody else anywhere else. It's just a fact of existence in life. With respect to how do you develop and train yourself? I wrote a book, published it here recently called the Modern Night's Guidebook. It's not exhaust, you know, it's not this big tome, but it's, you know, is, was reduced down as much as I could. You know, what are the principles of the night? You know, and, and again, not in the Christian church sense, but more on the broader concept. Again, no, not to take away from the church. Right, yeah.

[A]

That became ultimately manipulated in a pretty substantial.

[B]

Correct way. Right, correct.

[A]

The Black Nobility and all that.

[B]

Correct, correct. Which is why the Templars had to be destroyed and they burn Jack Monet at the stake and, etc, Right. So in the Modern Nights guide book, it's a very, you know, it walks you through the seven elements of power. I call them the seven swords. But, you know, it's the seven elements of power. It walks you through the principles of, you know, life. You know, what are, what are the obligations that we have as, as a man? Right. In very de, you know, in, in, you know, extensive but not, you know, exhaustive. Right. So people can broaden out from there. The goal that I, when I wrote the Modern Nights guidebook is to give these higher level reconnections with the sport of kings, right? So we're not all stuck chasing the great game, which will never win, you know, that that's. They got unlimited resources, money and time to play their, you know, to play their great game. We'll never, the only way we can do it is enough of us have gotten, got to recognize, oh, there's a sport above that. And let's try and support that. Let's try and connect in with that. Let's try and not get, you know, blinded by the great game, trying to, you know, keep us from seeing that. And then, you know, young men have to get more actively involved in their communities. Now that also means that men of our age and men of substance need to also start putting more damn time and effort and energy into the young men of their physical community. And I don't mean through, you know, charitable giving and all this other stuff that's. Some of that's important, but more of it is men and really the matriarchs behind their men need to be doing a better job of investing in local young men in their own damn communities because that's where that is your only safety and security in real, in true hard times. Right. So just on a self preservation basis alone, you'd be wanting to help local native young young men in your communities, wherever you can find them, and helping set them up as small business owners and, and getting them through, you know, all of these things instead of charitable giving. Because why, if anything ever really physically goes wrong, one back to the earlier Praetorian problem. You don't know you can trust your security team or at least one or two members on it. Right. And if things ever become sustained and, or you just don't have the capital to be able to afford your team anymore, which happens, your only safety and security for you and your family is the local community. And I don't mean the cops, because the cops have constitutionally been told they don't have an obligation to physically protect you.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Right. And that's Been upheld more than once. Can't and can't and can't. So you might want to. And then so for guys like us, you know, in our community, in particular, work that Clay does and my friend Sam Burgette over in Utah, and he was a Navy diver with you guys his whole career and did some other work. I got another friend, Doc McCorson out on the east coast, he's over at the Navy yard, if you know, catch my drift. Solid guy, you know, what are these guys doing? These guys are more hands on with the young men in their communities. They're, they're sourcing them, they're vetting them, they're, you know, getting them involved in training and then they're getting them involved in their, their businesses and you know, these types of things. And so they're developing a pool of young men that, that higher net worth people in a community should be going because, you know, they're all going, well, where's the good guys? Where's the good men? Where's the cable? So they import freaking foreigners to fill positions. And it's like, no, you've got this kid, he's 19 years old, he's been vetted by. Some of the guys are going to do the best vetting, the best training, the best manhood training you could ever have, have real stuff, not this touchy feely. And you put that money into that kid and his family, you got his whole family's now loyal to you. Yeah, his whole family for generations. Instead you're importing people from, you know, other parts of the world and put into your company because you don't think you have the talent in your community. You have the talent. I think you and I mentioned this earlier, but, you know, I got teenager in my house and we're like the collection point for her and her friends, which is.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

The way we keep them safe. Right. That's what guys like us do. It's right. Okay, I'll be the collection point. You all can hang over here. And if it goes till 5:30 in the morning like the other morning, okay, that's what we got to do. Right. But at least they weren't drinking and driving and they weren't doing crazy things or other things and, and some of them needed to talk some stuff out because they don't have the fathers at home, et cetera and. Okay, right. Well, that's happening all over.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

The talents out there, we're connecting with the talent. It's just the high net worth People the. You know, and. Okay, okay. Why is that happening? Well, because the people who run their nonprofits are usually the enemy.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Their gatekeepers are usually the enemy. And they're either the enemy because they're intentionally their enemy or because they're incompetent and they have no idea of. And. And they've all been educated in this, you know, white man bad. Native sons bad. You know, and not. Not just white men, but black men and Hispanics. Hispanic men. All native men are bad. You know, Native American men are bad.

[A]

Future noble men. Right?

[B]

Correct. Knights first. Right. Become a knight first and then you become a noble. You know, and. And all engaged in this divine covenant of noble purpose. Right. Oh, we got talent all over the place. I'm meeting young men all the time, solid young men. Yeah, I meet some knuckleheads here and there, but that's the way it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yep. You know, I think one of the fascinating things about what we're witnessing play out is, you know, as those of us are trying to frame it out in a way for people to consume it, right where. It's where we. We narrow that cognitive dissonance that we were talking about in the beginning to where they can make a fundamental. What is it, a revelatory awakening to the fundamentals of what shape civilization and societies, what shaped politics, what shapes finance. All the other things is that there are these underlying currents that have been in play for centuries. And to be able to continue to educate across those dynamic future nights, who then continue. Are able to maintain the resistance against. Right. The. The what? The. The free opportunity, if you will. Right here. Here, let me take care of you, son.

[B]

Here.

[A]

I'm gonna let you do this and do this. And oh, by the way, now that you're in this, I need you to do this for me. Right. And. And to be able to have the. The constitution to say, I. I'm not doing that. That's not what I realize. There are alternate avenues to generate this movement or revival. Right. To where we can help facilitate some of those next generations, those next nobility that are going to emerge through wealth or through position in government or wherever they are, into a place to be able to recognize what they're actually fighting against.

[B]

And.

[A]

And that. That's a. A long, gradual process that has also been in play for centuries as well, too.

[B]

I know you face the managerial class and this artificial status hierarchies, and we have to rebuild the model middle class. Well, historically, the middle class were the knights. Right. And nobility were Knights too. They had to be. But you know, traditionally the middle class were the knights or the samurai in Japan, you know, they were, were the guys that administered and ran the companies and built companies and were responsible for communities of people in the land and the shepherding of the land and the businesses and the productivity thereof. Right. So we don't need young men necessarily going into politics. What we need to do is we need to reduce the response, the power and position and prestige of government. We need to remove the power and prestige of entertainment and all these things that are artificial that have become so prestigious. Like I tell young men now, don't go to school. If you do go to, go to community college for two years, get out with no debt and study business. And then if you do well and you like it, I'll help you find somebody, help you buy that auto dealership. Because I know that guy's retiring in five years.

[A]

That's right, that's right.

[B]

Right. I know the H Vac guy that's, you know, he, he's looking for somebody to buy his company out. He'll finance you. You don't even need to ra, you.

[A]

Know, and, and I, I, I completely agree with you that that's the target area for us, right, or for these, these future nights is, is, is the things that can't be controlled by.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

You know, elite. No, Bill, elite, whatever. Right.

[B]

Financialists, the praetorians.

[A]

And you know, I, I live in that space day in and day out, what I do for my day job. And I see these young men chasing, you know, that, that, that you know, 50 year old retirement and you know, and all that stuff. And I'm just like, hey man, you know, that's great. Why don't you do it for 10, you know, pad your thing and then go out and start your own business or do your own thing or whatever. And you know, it's not for everybody obviously to select few. I try and instill that, but it's, it's, you know, it's taking control of your own destiny and, and not allowing the, the, the overarching system to be so enticing. It's like, you know, it's, it's the muse, right? It's the, it's the fairy in your ear, like, hey, this is the way to go. And I, I've told my daughters even like, you know, you know, first, you know, establish your own sense of, of morality and nobility. But those, those people you seek out, those men that you seek out, make sure they have these traits that I'M trying to teach or represent. Yeah but in the meantime if you guys don't want to go to college, I'll finance your business for four years and get you going. And that's exactly. And you start, you know, and you start taking control of, of whatever you know that looks like and yeah, yeah it was funny. I was going to say I know you don't like to make predictions but.

[B]

Would you give us one?

[A]

What would take place? All right, last question for you Em. And I really appreciate you coming on.

[B]

On.

[A]

If you were to guide somebody that is now become very invested in in in the type of, of discussion that we are having you're having on a regular basis and by all means everybody, you guys go out follow em on X. He, his stuff is phenomenal. His writing is. I mean there were two times over the break man you, you posted stuff that just floored me man. I really appreciate you taking the time and effort to do it. You know what, what are you paying attention to right now? You know there's a lot of people driven towards commodities and the explosion of silver and that. There's a lot of people that are paying attention to NATO and the musings of what they're doing or what are you. What should people who are beginning to evolve in their thinking at this level of the game team, where would you direct them to pay attention to?

[B]

Yeah, another great question and, and brings it all back together nicely. The only asset we as a people have remaining is our young men and some of our young women. And you know, we men, we can't fix the world of women. Only women can do that. And that's just an honest truth. Now we can provide some influence and management and guidance from the outside but women got to fix women. That's just the way it is. Right? Maybe we can get some help from the gay guys but I'm not sure they're not off doing their thing. Now. We have only one asset remaining to us that hasn't been bought and sold and hypothecated 100 times or 700 times and that's our young men. And now they want to send them away in wars to die in great numbers. Why? Because it's the only thing, the only asset that they can't fully commoditize and that is a wild guard that they can't control. So they need to kill off the native sons and import dependents, you know, praetorian slaves for all intents and purposes now they're well kept slaves etc but the we cannot lose the last remaining. Well, there's two assets actually, but they're related. We cannot lose our young men. If we lose our young men in another great conflagration. I don't care where it starts, how it starts, what the purpose is. It could be right here in our own country. Country. But we cannot lose our young men in a great conflagration again or we're done. Now here's the other piece. There is another asset, but it's already been hypothecated and all these other things, but it's still real. And it's the boomer's wealth. The boomer's wealth is the largest collection of private wealth ever created in the history of the world by a lot. That's right. And that's what the real target is. And they want to kill off the young men, our young men in our own lands or, you know, the native sons of the land, because they have to take. Take legally physical possession of the boomer's wealth. And if young men are here to stand ready to fight and deny that, like, you know, think the government tried to take Bundy's ranch. Now think that across the whole country for trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars of personal private wealth. So we cannot lose our young men because that is the most amoral thing for us to do. If we still want to claim ourselves immoral people. Right. Or reclaim our position as a moral people, is not send our sons off to die in. In just a slaughter. Right. We did what we did in Ukraine on purpose. We never gave them the supports they needed to win an actual war. There's another thing that people yelling and screaming about. I just want a little bit of an aside, but it's very important. People yelling about, you know, how ineffectual Chinese and Russian air defenses are. The surest sign that they are effective is we didn't give aircraft and we didn't close down the airsport space over Ukraine. That is the biggest tell that they're successful. Right? That's right.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So, yeah. So you know, my whole focus and my emphasis now. And I just did a show with crypto the other day. Yeah. On this. And we cannot lose our young men again. And we need to. All this other stuff is trying to set up the condition where our young men go into uniform and they go into war and they're not support. You know, even if it's a just war, which no war will be a just war at this point. Purely manufactured, but even word adjust war, they'll never be supported logistically, munitions wise.

[A]

Just like we weren't.

[B]

Correct. Right. Because the sole purpose is just to kill them off. Right. So that they're not here to, you know, say Malone Labe. What was Malone lab was about the weapons. When they said Malone lab, they meant come and take the lands. Persians. Right. Now you're gonna have to take our weapons first. Right. But come and take our lands. Okay. So that's where my whole focus is right now. I'm releasing a little thing here. One of the things that you have to, that were that I realized after years of banging my head against this is that you have to get to young men where they are war and young men are playing games. Okay, let's play a game. So I got a little thing that's releasing here later today and maybe we'll launch a game and maybe we'll try to get the young men.

[A]

I love that. Well, it makes you, it makes you just think to yourself what the greatest games in history have been. Right? Right. If you look at, you know, in the modern era, it's chess. And that chess has been around for how long? You know, forever. And you look at, at some of the Chinese games that are playing, right? There's, there's that they're tacticians, they're, they're thinking, you know, about tactically, movement. Right. And then the modern facet of that is, is risk. Right. And, and then it was War of the World or, or Warcraft, what is it? World of Warcraft. Right. And then now you have those similar things taking place in, in the gaming. What? Call of Duty. Duty.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Right. You know, and I agree with you, I, I 100 agree that that's a brilliant idea.

[B]

It's the only way to get to it. Yeah, right. And okay, now here's the other thing, right. I'll leave you with this. Our young men are vastly more intelligent than people than, than we are allowed to know. And here's why. I'm going to leave you something from 2005, 2007. Somewhere in that, I don't remember, it was an, it was an article in Wired magazine. And the intent, when they set out to do the studies that Dwyard was talking about was to demonstrate how video gaming, you know, and you know, social gaming was making people dumber and less social. Turned out the exact opposite. Kids who played an average of four hours a week were 30 higher on what's called a J score, which is a composite of all the different intel scores.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

And they were 80. Actually there were multi x multiples, more social? Because kids were coming into the game and if they weren't just a. They were helping them win, they were helping them build up, helping them clan up, helping them do all this stuff. Right. Well, okay, there's. How did these kids become higher IQ J score and all of that without having to read textbooks? They were learning complex mathematical equations. They were learning fundamental physics. They were learning social dynamic, you know, complex behavioral socialists. Not socialism, but social behaviorism.

[A]

Yeah, right, right.

[B]

Psychology. They were learning how to play poker because you had to be able to read. They were learning, you know, puzzling, you know, little nuanced things. Well, we're two generations into that. And these puzzles and these things that these kids are doing in their games are just ludicrously sophisticated and complex.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

These kids are brilliant. Brilliant. Okay? You want these kids to get heavily involved in the world around you. You want them to reorient and reshape a little bit, to see the world better and then to be actively involved. Okay, let's feed that into the game.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's right. I. I always imagine, and I think, you know, there's been a couple games try. Where you could pick any time frame in history, right. And you could. They'd give you the. The layout of the battles that took place. And then you could engage an army against another army. Right. And see what it did. Or you pick that side of the arm.

[B]

You can. That's like total wars. This is. This is separate. It's like, okay, I'm gonna release some puzzles. Let's see who gets where those puzzles mean. See where they get to. That's going to lead to rudimentary gains. Yeah, Puzzle. When I. Yeah, clever, clever, clever, Right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

These kids are clever. They get bored quick. They get bored easy. Now, here's the thing. People are like, oh, they don't have. Attention science fans. You ever watched a kid play a game that he's really interested in?

[A]

You can't break days. It's like your bel. It's like your belt fed gun. Last, man, last.

[B]

Exactly. That dude is zeroed in, right? He's totally adhd. When there isn't, you know, rounds going through that belt fed.

[A]

Right, Totally.

[B]

Big old corn fed dude. But man, once rounds are going, he's.

[A]

Locked in laser focus.

[B]

Right, Laser. So, you know, that's awesome. And then what do you do? You use the game and where the game takes you to tie into these historical things that you're talking about. Right. But the first Step is, you know, young men need to learn how to think in this sport of kings kind of way, right. In this divine covenant kind of way from things and have to reconnect into actual history, not the way that the losers who write the history books wrote it, but actual history. And then set them, you know, as you're doing that also be setting them loose in the real world and the real communities around them to. To, you know, reconnect with their community or to connect at all. Right. Because that's the other fun. And I'll Terribly sorry, I'll stop on this, but the other fundamental piece and problem that we have is that we just don't have fathers anymore. And fathers and grandfathers and uncles were the guys that were deeply connected into the communities in which they live. Right. And. And think about safety and security and, you know, people living, excuse me, peacefully and. And. And being productive, etc, and where the threats and who are the threats and, you know, you know, watch out for that. And here's how to look at this. And hey, if it ever gets bad, go talk to this person. And all that's gone on. Right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, not necessarily. There's some of us in some of these communities.

[A]

Well, that. That's what, like. I mean, I think, you know, that's why Clay's on to something with what he's talking about doing. Right. Is if you can get something. And I think we're like our generation and our group in particular, like, we represent what's just enough enticing to those younger men. Men. Because it's. It's what. It's. It's. It's a po. It's a natural thing. Right. There's a thing inside us all. Correct, as men, that we're looking for and we're smelling or touching or what we hear. And when we see it, it like, triggers a natural reaction in us. That's the reason why we are where we're here in the first place. And so all it would take is something that.

[B]

That.

[A]

That, like, generates, you know, the puzzle to the answer to the group.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or.

[B]

Or the sequence. That's.

[A]

That's right. To unlock the revelation.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

That. Oh, that's the group I want to be affiliated.

[B]

Correct. Right. Correct. So the one. One. One final piece as well, right. Is we are in war. We are at war, and we are at war for everything. This isn't. You know, this is for war at. This is at war for everything in our own lands, in our own place. They are all out on the boomer's Wealth. That is the target. What stands in the way is our young men. Okay. Or what can stand in the way? The only thing that can stand in the way. Okay. The other piece that we have to accept though, is that even if this goes to all hardcore conflagration, even a Civil War near US past at maximum, 7% of men will be involved in kinetic fighting at maximum. And realistically it's, you know, one and a half to 3% normally maybe 4%.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Okay. But there's 90 plus percent of the rest of the war that has to be fought too. And so there's a vast amount that young men can do that don't need to go and, you know, get tattoos like we have and, and you know, to improve our aim and. Or target acquisition. That's what the tattoos are for, right? That's target acquisition.

[A]

Yeah, it was my favorite. The kids would graduate buds. They'd come to me at SQT after the first month of training. They'd come back from like a long weekend and everybody.

[B]

Well, that was the joke in the sif, right, is that, you know, you just, you were not a, a good shooter until you got the target acquisition, you know.

[A]

That's so brilliant, man. I love that. Awesome. Well, Em, once again, my friend, thank you so much for your time and just your ability. I think, you know, it's, I think it's apparent for anybody that stops and actually really listens to what you're saying to recognize your commitment to this war. Not on a.

[B]

The.

[A]

The way that most people think that our, our group is, is advocating for in terms of. To go kinetic in a civil war wherever the, you know, to be able to go hit the fight the cartels and our, you know, you know, our group of 50 year olds or whatever it is. But more so the real war, the war for the soul.

[B]

Soul.

[A]

The war for the soul. The young man and young man.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Everything. I, I feel the same way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I, I just, just thank you so much, my friend. God bless you.

[B]

Thank you for having me, David. Appreciate it.

[A]

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