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Clay Travis
Clay, you're going to have to explain this to me on the flip side, okay? But I'm going to get to this now. This just popped up in my feed. I learned about the sports media from you because I didn't. I'd pay no attention to it, know nothing about it. This is from comedian Peter Ravello. I just think this is kind of fun we could have on a Friday.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
This.
Clay Travis
He did this on the. On the Tonight show on NBC. But this is a little bit he did on sports talk radio, which you used to do play 18.
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Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
They call up sports talk radio.
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Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Yankees doing it this year also.
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Clay Travis
Clay used to do sports talk radio. Is it kind of like this for some guys?
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Oh, this is so perfect. Sports are so many men's emotional outlet, right? If you see a guy screaming at the television, and trust me, I've been there a lot, it's not always just about what's going on on the screen. My awesome assistant Katie was listening. She says that geriatic pregnancy. She just texted me. She was listening to the show, Buck. Now they're starting to move on from geriatric pregnancy because so many women were, I think, rocked at the age of 35 by hearing that they were a geriatric pregnancy. They now call it in many places. Buck, this is advanced maternal age, or ama, to try to make women less stunned, I think, by the concept of a Jerry.
Clay Travis
I totally, and I totally disagree with this. I think that they should let. Like, people should know you shouldn't because it's a biological reality. This isn't about feelings. This is about with each passing year, after 35, your risk of complications goes up. Your chances of getting pregnant goes down. Your chance of bringing the baby full term goes down. All of the people women need to know My female friends that I grew up with, like I said in New York, so many of them were just lied to about this stuff. Lied to by the culture. Go be a girl boss. You have plenty of time. You have plenty of time. The guys are partying, you know, go, go to Tulum, Eat, pray, love your way through. Now I understand this may be a very specific thing to people in New York, Louisiana, D.C. boston, Chicago, but it's not time in all those places.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
I think it's very common for highly educated women. They are told that they can have it all and some, to be fair, are able to manage all of it better than others. But if you don't find the right person to your point, like you're hanging out with guys at 25 and 30 and 33 and 34 that can be able to do the fancy vacations and still have the high end success. But those guys might decide at 45, hey, I'm going to get married, I'm going to settle down, I'm going to have kids and that option is available to them. And you suddenly look around, you're 39 years old, you're in middle management, maybe you're making a decent salary, but I don't think it's that fulfilling. And I think a lot of women have been sold and then they look around and they the 39 year old guy doesn't feel the same pressure that the 39 year old woman does. And here's the other reality, Buck. It's way harder for women to date young, right? Way harder for 39 year old woman to find. First of all, men are morons in their twenties oftentimes and aren't that serious. So it's hard to find. Like let's say you're 39 and you want to date a 28 year old. 39 year old guy can date a lot of 28 year olds. Most 28 year old guys are not going to seriously date a 39 year old woman to stay with. So the math on this is different. We got a want to play this rush cut? Cause you played a funny clip as we went to break of how male sports talk radio is often before we
Clay Travis
get to the rush cut though, I mean have you had guys call it, they're like clay, I just want to say I love what's going on with Auburn. They're doing great and you know my wife and I are having problems. Like did you ever have to doctor Fill the situation because you thought you were there to do sports analysis but really someone just wanted to call into chat.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Look, this, this has to do with during COVID And I'm not claiming that sports talk radio is saving the world. Far from it. But during COVID March, April, May, June 2020, I was doing nationwide sports talk radio for Fox Sports Radio leading into Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd and sports shut down. Sports shutdown just didn't exist. For those of you who have forgotten, I know a lot of imagine doing three hours a day of sports talk radio. March, April, May, June of 2020. To a large extent, my job then, Buck, I really mean this was to be a therapist for people who are otherwise sports fans. Because a lot of people didn't get the opportunity to just sit at home and eat Cheetos and watch Netflix. A lot of guys, especially early in the morning, are up on the road, they're driving. And sports is their escape from the serious things in life, right? You got a wife who might be sick or not very happy with you. You got a mom and dad who might be aging. Sports is your escape. It is your sanity. And a lot of it is, I mean, I'm telling you, a lot of it is a emotional connection, which is
Clay Travis
now, now I want to go back and listen to old Clay Travis shows, just to hear some guy call in like, well, you know, I love Ohio State so much and like they're not playing. And Clay, tell me a story. You know, just like, Clay, tell me it's going to be okay.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
I'm telling you, Mark, you go back and you listen to a lot of those March, April, May and June shows. A lot of it was therapy for guys that were busting their ass and didn't have sports to be able to escape. And the world's falling down around them and they still got to be in that truck and they got to deliver that beer to a gas station or they got to still be, you know, showing up at their jobs when everybody, the higher end, your job was you just slept in, right? You're not waking up at 6am how many remember when like everybody was getting up at like 10am in the morning, they started to look at the data and nobody was waking up early in the morning who had, you know, working from home. Things changed enormously. And a lot of people didn't get that opportunity and still had to go and work no matter what is very important.
Clay Travis
Being able to separate yourself from just the rudimentary routine that you're in on a day to day basis, whether it's prayer, meditation. I'm actually doing yoga with Carrie after this. Yoga Sports. I find video games or me, Elon. And I, I find video games are a super easy way to kind of.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
What does your wife think about video games?
Clay Travis
I try not to play them when she's. I, I, I feel like I've.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Women hate, Women hate men playing video games. Sports. Like, they may not love you watch. They really hate walking in. I'm talking about 20s and 30s.
Clay Travis
I try to, like, slyly sort of just turn it off. Like, just checking to see if it still works, you know.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
But as in, as a general rule, women do not find it attractive for men to play video.
Clay Travis
And we know when I'm like, when I'm like, changing diapers and cleaning the kitchen, I get wifey walking around, you know, spandex and feeling great when she catches a little too much video games going on. All of a sudden, wifey's like, triple XL sweatshirt, like, Mrs. Doubtfire style out there. It's just, it's amazing how that happens.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
The young men, and I know we have some young men listening, just have this idea that, you know, they're gonna have a girlfriend and she's gonna be incredibly good looking and she's gonna love playing Call of Duty with him. Right? Like, there's this, there's this young male fantasy. It's like we're just gonna, we're just gonna be like, fighting World War II battles. And then when we're tired of fighting World War II battles on call of Duty, we're gonna make out and it's gonna be. Yeah, it's probably. And they sell them, right? They sell them on this idea because there's a couple of pretty girls, like, what was the Olivia Munn?
Buck Sexton
The days?
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Like, I love video games and Star wars and I'm gonna dress up like Princess Leia and we're just gonna play.
Clay Travis
This is like all the, all the Maxim magazine models in the heyday of Maxim magazine, they would do some little interview and they're just like, I like a guy with a little bit of a beer belly that I can hug and cuddle. It's like, sure you do. Sure you do. Olga the bikini model. Like, absolutely, yeah.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Rush, coming back to this clip, when you shared that comedian's take, what was the comedian's name, by the way? Should we give him credit? Did we give him.
Clay Travis
Yeah, give him credit again for it. I'll, I'll pull it up right now.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Make sure we give him credit.
Clay Travis
Peter. Peter Ravello doing his routine on the. But now I follow him. Cause, like, I just, I thought that was a really Funny routine. He's got some other funny bits too.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Sports talker. This is one good thing about Instagram, by the way. Comedians have just taken off on the reels function if you find a couple of funny cuts like, it's been phenomenal for them. But so that comedian talking about sports talk radio callers, Rush, obviously, as many of you know, was huge sports fan, was involved in sports for much of his career of a variety of different perspectives, in fact. Fact, there was talk for a while that Rush was going to buy his own team because of the success he had with this radio program. But here is Rush talking about when he worked for the Kansas City Royals back in the day and what sports teams did and meant to people. I thought this was really interesting. Well done. Pulled by the staff. This is from 2017, I believe. Cut 19.
Rush Limbaugh (clip)
One thing about sports fandom, I had a sociologist from Harvard once tell me that the, the great thing about sports, and I've, I've never forgotten this, folks. I was working for Kansas City Royals winter meetings one year in Scottsdale, Arizona. We had this Harvard sociologist and I said, my first reaction, are you kidding me? We've got some Ivy Leaguer coming down here trying to tell us added techniques on marketing our teams and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went, well, it was mandatory. I went. And the guy said something that was actually one of those things that, when he said it, yeah, absolute wish you could have thought of it yourself, but you didn't. He said, the beauty of sports. Now, remember, all this is in the context of us who were in marketing and sales trying to expand the number of people that visit the ballpark or watch on TV and ways to exploit their fandom. He said, the unique thing about sports is the one thing you can invest total passion without consequence. He said, try that with a woman, or there were some women who looked at them, said, try that with a man. And what he meant by that was, your team may lose and they may disappoint you, but your team will never try to take half of what you've got. Your team will never divorce you, team will never reject you. Your team will never, unless you throw beer on a player, they'll never kick you out of the place. But when interpersonal relationships, everybody, their first time, they get heartbreak or hurt, they're reserved after that. They don't want that to happen again. And so they do not invest their passion totally because there's consequence. When you can, this is, this is the definition of uber fandom. Invest total passion without consequence.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
It's really Kind of fascinating. And I mean, I think again, there are women who are sports Fans, you know, 25% of sports fandom, but for most die hard sports fans is male. And it is really kind of interesting to think through that. And many of you may be in your relationships with your dad or your brothers or your best friends. A huge portion of the conversations that I have with the men in my family is sports related.
Clay Travis
Right.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
The boys in my family still sports related. It's a form of love language for men that is not defined in that way. And I thought the comedian on the flip, on a funny side of it, making that point, and then Rush on a more serious side, kind of deconstructing the psychology behind it does make sense.
Clay Travis
Well, it's important for people to be able to have conversations that, that share any kind of a common ground, which I know you, this is why, and I have to take credit for this because it's true. It's an observation about Clay, and he admits it. He straight up trusts you and likes you more. If you are an SEC football fan, he's like, oh, I can give you the keys to my car. I can. You're like, you're a good dude or gal, you're a good person, you like SEC football. But being able to find common ground with people that you can share is. Is very powerful. And it even reminds me of. I feel like I used to think that small talk was people. There's a lot of people say, I don't do small talk or small talks. A waste of time. Small talk is actually just about establishing the energy and the exchange between two people. It's kind of like, hey, I'm here, I'm a friendly and I'm hoping you're good and we're all good. And it's putting everyone at ease. Right. Small talk is not about the exchange of information. It's the exchange of energy that comes from it, or the intent, if you will, of the exchange, which is, hey, I'm happy to see you. You're happy to see me. I wish you well, you wish me well. And we're talking about the weather because people don't really care to talk about the weather. But the point is establishing that commonality. And I see that a lot with the people who are sportsball fans.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Yes. And by the way, you know what? That commonality often is lost in now phones because it used to be that you would have conversations with strangers more. Now what most of us do, and I do this too, is if you're standing in a line or if you're engaged in, you know, some activity. So many people look down at their phones and so you dial out of the circumstances and surroundings around you and your human interaction has now been translated into the phone.
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All right, we got some calls, we got some talkbacks. We got good things going on here. Let's go to it. A talkback listener, Michael from Arizona, wants to weigh in on something. Here we go.
Luke Rosiak
Buck, got to give you some crap drawstring pants. You can't carry a 1911 like a real man should. Just making fun. Just having a good time with you all. Love your show.
Clay Travis
Well, Michael, we love you too, but I just want to be clear that the proper way to carry your 1911 is in your breeches, like from what they wore during the revolutionary era, you know, with like the high white socks. Because you want, you want it to fit in with the timeline. So you got to go 1911. You got to go back, dress a little bit like George Washington because that's how old you're vibing with your 1911. I'm just, I'm here for you. And on the drawstring pants, guys, I'm telling you, my, even my team, my team is making fun of me. I am telling you guys, it's a, it's like a life changing thing. My parents, and it's funny because they both take credit for this. So I'm going to get a text from probably both of them after this. My mom and my dad both claim that have comfortable shoes doesn't mean ugly shoes, just means comfortable shoes is a life hack. Don't ever let anyone tell you to wear shoes that hurt your feet because it will ruin whatever you're doing and everything. They're completely correct on that. Many of you have, have followed me down the sartorial pathway of freedom from the necktie. And as I have explained, because a French king in the 17th century had a bunch of Croatian mercenaries who had to have a brightly colored cloth around their neck so they could look cool and also probably not shoot each other on the battle or stab each other on the battlefield, as it were, that doesn't mean that I should have to put a. Put a self induced noose around my own neck with the necktie. I do not like it. And people have followed me on that one. They're correct. They know that I'm right. See podcast listener in West Treasure Island, Florida, wants to talk momdani.
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Hit it, Clay And Buck, I just want to remind you that Mamdani's grocery store Cannot fail because he's a communist. No communist plan ever fails because it wasn't true communism. When the grocery store fails, it's going to be capitalism's fault, not his.
Clay Travis
The gentleman is correct. When the grocery store becomes a debacle, when people are seeing empty shelves or rotten meat in the case, when all of that happens and that is inevitable, they, you know what they will say? It is because of the stinginess of capitalism, not the failure of communism. It is because the rich are not paying their fair share. You see friends, even when they force you to do something you don't want to do, their failure when they take your money is because you weren't a source of even more money for them.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
We're joined by Luke Rosiak from the Daily Wire. He has done an incredible, incredible investigative journalist analysis. He's gone deep into home health care fraud. If that sounds like it's not super exciting, I promise you give him a minute because you're, you're going to all have steam coming out of your ears. Luke, first of all, great work. Really enjoyed. I enjoyed might not be the right word. Really appreciated reading the piece of. It's pretty frustrating as a taxpayer to read it. Tell everybody what you did and what you found and what the heck is going on here.
Luke Rosiak
Yeah, thanks for having me. So what we're talking about is basically taxpayer funded butlers for Somalis to the tune of $1 billion a year just in Ohio. They come here from as refugees or whatever, but now they have free servants that will come cook for them, glean for them anything they, anything they want. And this is Medicaid funded. It's an expansion of the Medicaid program that Ohio has a waiver for that they call personal services because it's an acknowledgment that there's nothing really health. It's not, it's not medical. And then further infuriating people I think is the fact that a lot of the butlers are just the relatives of the other Somalis. So they're just getting paid to hang out with their own relatives and doing things that normal families do, cooking for each other, cleaning for each other. And so just as we saw with Nick, Shirley and everything else in Minnesota, them demanding to get paid for watching their kids or watching their neighbor's kids, which if they're not working, I don't know why they need daycare. They're getting paid to watch kids, they're getting paid to Hang out with their own, you know, elderly mother. The Somalis have basically mastered the art of getting paid to do things that everyone else does just because they're decent human beings. But it's kind of on track to bankrupt Ohio because, you know, Medicaid is like half of Ohio's budget. Medicaid spending is like doubled in the last few years, and no society can afford to pay people to hang out with their own family members.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Okay. So in Minnesota, there seemed to be a desire on behalf of the Democrat Party not to look in very aggressively into the spending because Somalis were a huge part of their coalition and they saw it as maybe a price to pay for the political support. What's going on in Ohio? What, what is the politics behind this? How does a situation like this such that you could tell emerge?
Luke Rosiak
You know, obviously it's very interesting because it's a Republican state, Republican governor, Republican legislature. But the attorney general testified to the state legislature not too long ago saying that he's being blocked from doing fraud investigations. Like, really, it's almost like you'd have to be pro fraud to do some of the things they've done. They used to have a rule where you had to have a GPS in your car. If you're one of these butlers who's being paid to go from house to house and, you know, cook a meal for an old person, they had a GPS in your car just to make sure that you're actually going there. That rule was changed so there's no longer gps. The state attorney general is not empowered to prosecute these crimes or even subpoena people for Medicaid fraud because of turf wars where the local prosecutors just don't want somebody intruding on their jurisdiction. But local prosecutors don't know how to do Medicaid fraud. You know, it's pretty technical. And they're just doing like, normal street crime. And so there's essentially nobody looking into the ins and outs of this. And I went there in. It's. I went to Columbus, Ohio, and it's. It's just very blatant. I mean, you. You pick a name at random, and they're all foreign names, but you can look into it. And they've got other businesses, like they're just casually running this multimillion dollar Medicaid business on the side while they do other things. There's nobody in most of these offices. And it's really. I mean, it's either nobody is interested in fraud or in policing fraud in, in Ohio. One reason is 70% of it is paid by the federal government. So it might be the other people's money problems where. And I think Minnesota, this was true. It's like, what do we even care? Even if the money is being stolen, maybe it's going to help our economy some way. And it's really. It's just the federal taxpayers dollars. Who cares?
Clay Travis
Yeah, Luke, this is so important what you're laying out, because it's almost like a. It's a stealth universal basic income or something. I mean, it's a giant welfare program being paid by the feds. People think it's about necessary healthcare. Like, oh my gosh, with these Medicaid dollars. Without it, you know, people would be turned away from emergency rooms. They would bleed out on the floor. No, this is this. It's a giant scam. It's an all. It's in all 50 states. This stuff is going on. But can you speak to. And obviously his piece is up at Daily Wire. We're going to link to his piece@clayandbuck.com just make it easy for you guys. We're going to go check it out. But Medicaid millionaires is the title. Talk about the businesses, like, so you're discussing how they're these home aides or whatever they are, and they're really like a butler that's a family member that's being paid to just hang out with you. And there's no proof that they're doing anything. There's no requirements for any actual work. Talk to me about the businesses, though, that are acting as middlemen, getting fat on these taxpayer dollars coming in. And it's not even clear any work is being done.
Luke Rosiak
Yeah, that's so important because the traditional archetype of the welfare queen was like somebody that's on a poverty program and they just got, you know, maybe some nicer food than somebody who's unemployed should have. This is. That seems really quaint now. Like, we're so far beyond that. The new welfare queens are the corporations that provide poverty services to others. So they're billing these poverty programs as the. As the providers. And so if you do want to hang out with your family members and get paid, you don't have the ability to bill Medicaid directly. So you need to become an employee of a company who does, but your only client is really your own family member. So there's all these companies that basically just sit in the middle and take a little piece off of a billion dollars a year, which really adds up. And these are people that oftentimes have criminal records, are totally disreputable people. Some of them have like violent tendencies. And we're just like, oh yeah, it's health, it's healthcare. And you know, you're heartless if you don't want that, want this. But it's huge money for people that are not actually providing any services. And you know, basically I think it jeopardizes the ability of Medicaid to pay for things that people really need. I mean, the original justification was if you have to go into a nursing home, it would actually be cheaper if we could just come take care of you in your house if you needed things. But then they expanded it to where it's not even nursing. It's just stuff that like your normal family would do, like cook you, cook you dinner or just hang out with you. And the problem is people aren't going to pretend to be like old and decrepit to go to a nursing home because nobody wants to go to a nursing home. But if there's, if you're getting free paychecks and you can still just hang out and do whatever you want at your house, there is an incentive for people to go to these doctors and get notes claiming to be infirm. And the Somalis in particular seem to be the ones who are exploiting that. And maybe Americans, we have skin in the game where we don't want to bankrupt our own country. And it seems like the Somalis don't have any trepidation about that.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
How does this get fixed? I mean, I think that's the number one question that most people have out there. It's infuriating, it's frustrating. The amount of fraud is frankly overwhelming. It appears in many parts of the government, but particularly all this home health care stuff, when the government has gotten involved in health care, how does it get fixed?
Luke Rosiak
Yeah, so I've got some ideas on that. I know a lot of people feel hopeless and like really black pilled. I think there is a way to, I mean, one of the ways to solve this is just to end the personal services waiver in Medicaid. And I think the Trump administration could do that. And like, you know, if you've got an old person in your family that it could, they could use some help having somebody cook them lunch.
Rush Limbaugh (clip)
Great.
Luke Rosiak
You're just going to have to do that yourself. That's what families do. You don't need to bill the government for that. And if that's a hardship for some people, you know, I think that's the cost of immigration, honestly, is we may have been able to have these programs before, but now we can't afford to have nice things because we have people from low trust societies that will exploit them. But I'm going to be rolling out stories in the Daily Wire every day this week exploring these ridiculous scenarios where it's pretty clear that something absurdly sketchy is going on. For example, there's an accountant who lost his license for stealing public funds and then he created a Medicaid company using the address of the teenage son of a convicted money launderer. So, like, pretty clearly sketchy, right? But how do you prove that that dude isn't actually going to people's houses and helping them? Unless you have cameras and the names of the old ladies, you can't prove it. And so I think that it's very difficult to actually prove in the court of law fraud on some of these. And that's why I get really concerned that we just. If there is a program where fraud is almost impossible to fruit to prove, I think we can't have that program. So I think the Trump administration, bottom line, rather than playing Whack a mole with Ahmed Mohammed and Muhammad Ahmed and Omar Omar, and they shut down one firm because it's busted for fraud, but then their brother creates a new one next door. And we saw all kinds of stuff like that in my investigation. That's Whack a Mole. It's going to take so many resources to police the fraud. I say we got to just end this whole Medicaid waiver for personal care.
Clay Travis
Thank you so much. Luke Rosiak. DailyWire.com is where you go for the piece. Appreciate you, man. Good work and we'll have you back on.
Luke Rosiak
Thanks guys.
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Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Mitchell has an awful take.
Clay Travis
I think just listening to Tuesday's podcast on iHeartra. And to summarize your show, sounds like that Clay has shaved his beard, become a swifty after publishing a book titled Balls, which I bought and read.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Sounds like he has lost his Buck.
Clay Travis
You have got to pull his man card.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
Wow, that's a lot of shots there.
Clay Travis
Both Barrels. Both barrels unleashed on that one. I was. I. I'm a little. I'm a little taken aback right now that. That's Clay. I gotta say. I think Clay's mustache is fabulous. I think it's a fabulous stash. You know, I'm a big fan. I think that he should stay. I think we stay with the stash. I don't know anyone.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
I am allowed to shave the mustache when it gets to 60 degrees in Nashville, which I was looking at. And the weather bounces around a lot this time of year in Nashville, but I think potentially Monday. I mean, then I'll have to make a decision because it's going to be over 60 degrees on Monday or Tuesday in Nashville, and the mustache doesn't have to stay VIP.
Clay Travis
Email from Dan. He writes, remember what happened when Kamala ran in a real presidential nomination contest? Yes. It was sad, exclamation point. And I think Clay is forgetting just how sad it was. You know, he's getting a little. Clay's getting a little big for his britches. He suckered me in to my emotional bet on will Kamala run again? Which was pro. That was a kind of a crazy take. Fine. But Kamala being the nominee, where you mark this one down, guys. Gavin Newsom's gonna be the nominee. Kamala Harris is not gonna be the nominee. Clay's gonna be wrong on this one. And somehow, whenever he's wrong, I will say this. He's the betting guy, so this makes sense. Cause he's wrong a fair amount, but whenever he's wrong, there's no stake at stake. Whenever I'm wrong, somehow I owe him a stake. This is the. This is the problem.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
That's why the odds are Gavin Newsom is a huge favorite right now to be the Democrat nominee in 2028. Kamala is a big underdog. So I was saying on Tuesday night, I was out to dinner in LA with five of our buddies, and all five of them thought I was crazy. And we. I took them on. Took the bet to say that Kamala is. Is not going to. Is going to be the nominee.
Clay Travis
The nice thing about being crazy is that you're not necessarily alone. Richard, this is Talkback D from South Carolina. Columbia, South Carolina. He is also in the Kamala looney bin with you. Play it. Oh, it's on the list, but we will get to another one here. In the meantime, be Colleen from Tucson, Arizona, speaking about the kidnapping. Hit it.
Luke Rosiak
I live in Tucson, Arizona, and I
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If the kidnapper Took her into Mexico. Wouldn't that be pretty easy to track?
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Luke Rosiak
They really interrogate you to go into Mexico from Tucson.
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Anyway, it's a good question. I've never crossed.
Clay Travis
I don't think that, that she's been taken into Mexico. I mean, I don't think.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
I'm just saying the United States probably.
Clay Travis
Yes, I think so. I think that they're going to find who did. I'm. I'm very confident. Maybe I shouldn't be. They're going to find who did this. We just want Savannah's mom to be returned unharmed. That's the part of this that's so obviously up in the air. I am very confident they're going to find who did this. I think it's really a hard thing to do this, given all the attention, all the resources on this and get away with it.
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Yeah.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
My question was, given that they are somewhat close to the border, is there an argument that she would be easier to hide in Mexico than she would be elsewhere?
Clay Travis
Well, yes, that I think is probably the case, Clay. Getting across the border, remember, getting into the United States is super hard. Now getting out is probably a lot easier.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
That's what that was my thought. But I've never. I mean, and this individual may have crossed.
Clay Travis
You know, there are places, I've been there where you could just get in a pickup truck and you could just hit it and get into Mexico. And yes, America, remember, America can't. Is not going to pursue into Mexico. So now you're going to call the federales. Good luck with that one. You know, they got, they got other things to do.
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We got a couple more talkbacks.
Clay Travis
Yeah. See Sarah from Milwaukee, a brilliant lady. Play it.
Luke Rosiak
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There is no way that Kamala is
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Clay Travis
Sarah. Sarah sounds just like an astute and well read and prescient lady.
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If this were a few months after the 2020 election and we had come on and I had said, hey, you know, 2024, I'm already thinking ahead. Trump is not only going to win the nomination, he's going to win the popular vote. What odds do you think I could have gotten on that? It would have been crazy. Here's Richard now in Columbia, South Carolina. An astute gamecock. Let's listen.
Clay Travis
Clay, this is Richard in South Carolina. And your take on Kamala in the 2028 primary is 100% accurate. The primary is going to be about angry women and racism and the thought that Kamala is owed an opportunity for a full cycle. Newsom has no shot.
Co-host or Guest (likely Buck Sexton or another commentator)
I I agree with Richard.
Clay Travis
Richard was pretty eloquent and and pretty eloquent and well thought out on that one, which is disappointing. I thought he was just gonna say some nonsense. Damn it.
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Date: May 25, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Focus: A lively, wide-ranging conversation on sports culture as an emotional outlet, generational and gender perspectives on life choices, critiques of welfare and Medicaid fraud, and listener interactions—blending humor, personal stories, and sharp political commentary.
This "Best of" hour features Clay Travis and Buck Sexton reflecting on the cultural role of sports as an emotional release, generational perspectives on family, dating, and life plans, a hard-hitting investigative discussion on Medicaid fraud in the U.S., and spirited banter with listeners about politics, masculinity, and current events. Listeners get the show's trademark blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and probing critique of modern societal and political phenomena.
(03:07 – 15:54)
Comedian Peter Ravello’s Bit – The Emotional Outlet of Sports Radio:
Clay and Buck on Men Using Sports as Emotional Expression:
Rush Limbaugh’s Perspective: The Psychology of Sports Fandom
(04:08 – 08:48, 10:10 – 11:57)
Changing Terminology in Medicine and Realities of Biology:
Realities of Dating Dynamics:
Men, Video Games, and Relationship Dynamics:
(15:08 – 17:08)
Sports as a Love Language and “Small Talk”:
Technology Undermining Spontaneous Connection:
(20:26 – 41:16)
Humor and Listener Engagement:
2028 Democratic Nominee Debate:
(23:30 – 33:40)
“Taxpayer-Funded Butlers” Scandal in Ohio & Politics of Welfare Fraud:
Systemic Problems and Political Inaction:
The ‘Welfare Queen’ Trope Evolves:
Solutions and Systemic Barriers:
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote / Moment | |-----------|---------|----------------| | 04:08 | Buck | “Sports are so many men’s emotional outlet, right?...It’s not always just about what’s going on on the screen.” | | 07:33 | Clay | “During COVID…my job then, Buck, I really mean this, was to be a therapist for people…sports is your escape…it is your sanity.” | | 13:07 | Rush Limbaugh | “The unique thing about sports is the one thing you can invest total passion without consequence…your team will never reject you...that’s the definition of uber fandom.” | | 04:55 | Clay | “...it’s a biological reality. This isn’t about feelings. This is about with each passing year, after 35, your risk of complications goes up...Women need to know...so many of them were just lied to about this stuff.” | | 29:08 | Luke Rosiak | “The new welfare queens are the corporations that provide poverty services to others...huge money for people not actually providing any services.” | | 31:57 | Luke Rosiak | “If there is a program where fraud is almost impossible to prove, I think we can’t have that program.” | | 38:08 | Buck | “Gavin Newsom’s gonna be the nominee. Kamala Harris is not gonna be the nominee. Clay’s gonna be wrong on this one.” |
The show's signature is its freewheeling, humorous rapport, mixing playful ribbing with pointed commentary. Clay and Buck switch seamlessly from lighthearted takes on sports and relationships to more serious, critical analysis of government programs. Listener engagement—via calls and talkbacks—keeps the show energetic and relatable.
This "Best of" hour paints a vivid picture of how sports serve as an emotional release and social glue, explores the gender and generational tensions around modern life choices, and calls out public policy failures with a focus on Medicaid fraud—always with tongue-in-cheek humor, a touch of nostalgia, and no small dose of conservative skepticism about government intervention. Regular listeners will find all their favorite beats, while newcomers get keen insights into both everyday life and big-picture issues.