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From SEAL Team to Senate: Jared Hudson’s Battle Against Washington Corruption | Ep. 21
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Are you tired for the swamp never getting cleared out or nobody roger enough to go in there? Well, stand by because today I'm going to introduce you to a true warrior and a true Christian who's going to go to Washington and kick some ass. This is the David Rutherford Show. There have been a few times in my life where I have had the opportunity to meet somebody who transforms me. And I'm a part of a culture of transformative men. And all my times in the teams, my times at working for the agency, my times working with elite athletes, I've come across a few, but only one that has been able to. When he speaks, he hits me in my soul. And he hits me in my soul because I always feel as if I can never be redeemed. And that my sin is something that I can is always going to be an insurmountable option. But when I met this man for the first time at a charity event in Florida, he transformed the way I thought about my faith and I thought about myself. So when I found out that this individual was going to run for the US Senate, you can imagine what my heart felt. And I felt that sense that, oh my God, you are answering my prayers. Which is to get somebody that is a deep, firm believer not only in this country and in the values that, that I believe in, but more importantly, believe in what the country represents. And that man is Jared Hudson. And I am beyond honored and privileged to have Jared on the show right now to introduce all of you to. He is in the hopes that just one of you out there will hear what he has to say and you will connect with him and you will get behind this man in his quest to go into that swamp, that infestation of Dem. Of of D.C. in order to bring back not only the faith that we have in the Lord, but the faith that we should have in this country. So, Jared Hudson, man, it's a privilege to have you on, Dave.
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Ryan Seacrest
What's up, brother? Thank you. It's an honor being here with you. And I feel the same about you, Dave. I mean, I'm just being honest with you. And every time I read something you write or hear something, you say, you know, don't want to turn this into a back and forth compliment sandwich, you know, but you're a good dude and I appreciate all that you do and all that you put out.
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Dave Rutherford
Well, thank you. All right. So, you know, before we hopped on, obviously we were chatting a little bit about that. The overwhelming, difficult decision it is to cross that threshold because of what's at stake. Right. Somebody approaches you say, hey, you should run for office. You should do this. We need people like you. And you know, that strokes our ego all the time. That's awesome. But there's this reality to what if you're, you know, even remotely have any kind of common sense to know that this game is the most vicious game in the world. And, you know, and I. And so what I just would like for you to share is, is how that process worked for you and your family and, and kind of what was the catalyst inside you that knew, you knew, like, this is the right decision.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah. So we'll do a long story short sort of thing. This was not in mine and my wife's radar. This wasn't. You know, again, we talked about it before the, before the show, but everybody says stuff in jokes, you know, I ran for sheriff here in a Democrat stronghold in Jefferson County, Alabama. One few blue counties in the state of Alabama because it's like 70 or 80% red all across the state, but Jefferson county is. Is a blue county. And I ran against the incumbent sheriff, who is an incumbent Democrat, and almost beat him, you know, got within about 7,000 votes of him. This is larger than a congressional district in this county. And so with that being said, that kind of got me tied into politics. And everybody's always said, hey, if you want to run, you can run for a state office. You want to run for maybe a congressional seat if one of those opens up. I mean, it's. Everybody always said things like this. And so it's always been something that is there that's mentioned, but in all honesty, it was never an option or an opportunity or something that made sense. I guess if you're tracking with what I'm saying, it just never was there. The Lord didn't have it. And a couple of months ago, it got fired across my desk by some supporters of our organization, Covenant Rescue Group. And they're also supporters of our senator Tommy Tuberville, who's now running for governor of the state of Alabama. They said, hey, if Coach runs for governor, would you consider running for his Senate seat? It'll be an open Senate seat. And I said, well, you know, I'll consider it. Yeah, just because of who's asking me. You're asking me. I'm more than willing to consider, but it's going to take some prayerful consideration. I've talked with my wife. This is not political ambition for me. This is not the next step in my career. As a matter of fact, it could negatively impact my career. I mean, that's what we're looking at at just face value. And it's going to cost a lot of money and take a lot of time. So let me talk with my wife and we're going to pray about it. So my wife and I talk about it, we pray about it, and I could not get a clear answer from the Lord. Now, something you brought at the beginning is my faith and your faith. I know we're Christian brothers. We share the same faith. And so everybody out there who hears can understand what I mean. Whether you believe what I'm saying or not, what I know to be true is what John 1 says. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was God. The Word was with God. All was made through him and by Him. And everything we see that was made wasn't made without Him. He's the Light and life in the men. And light shone in the darkness, and the darkness couldn't overcome it. That's the first five verses of John, verse 14. The Word became flesh and dwelt among men. Jesus is that flesh. He came to this world, lived a perfect life, died on the cross, rose again on the third day for my sins and yours. And it's through him we're set free. You mentioned the mountain or the massiveness of sin that we cannot recover from. You are exactly right. Jared Hudson can't recover from his sin. Dave Rutherford can't recover from his sin. Only Jesus can recover us from our sin. And he did that on the cross. And when he rose and left the tomb. Right. The empty tomb shows us that he defeated sin and death. And as a dread warrior, as Jeremiah says, he holds the head of sin and death up before his Father and says, he says, hey, dad, here it is. I conquered sin and death. And when we're in him, we are able to conquer the sin that is in our life. That's the most important thing about me. So everything I Do is based on who the person of Christ is eternally in my life, because that's what guides me. And that is how I. That's how I make decisions, right? I pray through those decisions and seek the wisdom of God because he is the only one who is truly wise. So in those prayer times, that's what I mean by when I say, I'm a Christian and I'm seeking the Lord's face. We're believers and we are praying and seeing, Lord, should we do this? And man, to be honest with you, I could not get a word from the Lord that said, jared, run for Senate. And that's unusual for me. Normally I'll say, hey, God told me to do this, or he told me not to do this. Reading his word, reading the scripture, praying through it. He's going to speak to you through His Word. I could not get any specific word, but the word I was getting over and over. Read the story of Abigail and her husband Nabal, who is an evil man. And David, you can read that story. Anybody wants to look it up. And the wisdom of Abigail. Read another story about the wisdom of the woman who threw out the head. And I forgot who it was was running from. Joab throws out the head over the wall, kills the man that ran in, throws it out. And it says that the whole city was delivered because of the wisdom of this woman. And I'm reading these stories, right? And I'm like, ah, no, there's no way this is right. God, I can't. You know, I'm not going to ask Lauren. I know she's going to say no anyway because she says no to everything that isn't a beach vacation like we talked about, right? Hey, hey, Lauren, you know, pray about going to the beach. And she said, oh, no, we don't need to pray about it. That's exactly what we need to do, right? You know, so this is one of those things where it's like, okay, it's an honor to even be asked or considered to do this. That is Jared Hudson, right? And coming out, he's like, wow, this is an honor to be asked to do this. But God kept saying, ask your wife and do what she says. And my fear was she would say, don't even. No, we don't even need to look at it. No, absolutely not. That's what I thought she would say. And after three days of not talking about it, just praying separately, we came together and said, hey, Lauren, what do you think the word I keep getting is Talk with you. And she said, I'm apprehensive to say this because I believe I know what it's going to cost us, but it's going to cost us our life here, which we'll still. We still live here in Alabama, but I'm going to have to go to D.C. if we win this thing and it all goes through. She knew it was going to cost us on the campaign. She said, I think this is what we're supposed to do. And that kind of surprised me. And that's when I really started saying, okay, Lord, what do you think? One thing I didn't tell you as I started walking through doors that were opened up and going through the green lights. Green lights don't always mean it's God telling you to do something, and red lights don't always mean it's God telling you to stop. Right. So you have to be discerning in that process. And so I've got green lights, but I'm still like, you know, I'm just not sure my wife is okay with this. This is already weird. Who is this woman I'm married to sort of thing, right? So as we're walking through it, about four weeks into this process, maybe six weeks into it, I call my granddaddy and ask him, and I talked to my dad. He said, you know who you could ask, who's going to definitely tell you what the Holy Spirit's saying? Your granddaddy. My granddaddy, a very solid Christ following man. He's 85 years old. He says, yeah, I don't have enough, enough energy to do a big garden like I always do. Do like 7 acres of garden every year and this year. Then he said, I don't have enough energy to do a big garden like I do. So he did 3.3acres of garden this year. There are maybe even closer to 4 acres, right? So he's got. So anyway, I say all that to say he. He's a wise man. He told me, he said, I'm just waiting for the Lord to take me home. And I hope and pray he lets me work his garden in heaven. That is who this man is. He spends a lot of time in the Word.
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Dave Rutherford
He's the sower. He's the.
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Ryan Seacrest
So he is a sower. Yeah. So anyway, I called him and I said, granddaddy, this is what I've been asked to do. He hates politicians, by the way. He does not like them, he does not respect him, and he prays for our leaders in this nation. But he is not a politician kind of guy. So I Kind of thought I knew what he would say. I said, granddaddy, I've been thinking about. And I've been asked when I run for the open U.S. senate seat, if Coach Tommy Tuberville runs for governor. And he said, well, I like Coach. I'm glad that he got in there. He's not a politician. And he said, but, son, it would be an honor to even be able to say your grandson ran for a Senate seat. Whether you're a senator or not, it's an honor to even say. Which was unusual for him to say. That was the first thing that stood out to me. He would normally say something like that. He would say, it's an honor to say your grandson was a seal. But he would say, why in the world do you want to be a politician? All they are are crooks and sycophants, right? And they're either for, you know, one side or the other. They're not. He doesn't view them highly. And he said, but I want to encourage you. He said, just something I'm thinking about, son. Why don't you ask your wife and do what she says? And that really floored me, because that's the exact word that I got from the Lord six weeks earlier. Why don't you ask your wife and do what she says? So he told me that. And we walked through the doors, kept getting green lights, went all the way to D.C. met with a bunch of people, and finally met with the political team, or coordinator, director, I guess would be his title at the White House, and said, look, I'm just looking for red lights because I was asked to do this. And I said, I'm looking for a red light because if Coach announces, I won't do this, if I get a red light from any of y' all, because y' all are the. Y' all are the deciding factors. Did talk to local politicians here or anything like that, and I went straight to the. Straight to the source, and the Lord opened the doors for that to happen. And. And he said, you're not going to get a red light from us, son. And I said, okay. And that was. That was where it was left at, you know, and so I bring that back to my wife, and we decide to send this thing out there after Coach Tuberville announced, and now it's just in full fundraising mode. All we're doing is turning to real politicians begging people for money to support the. Support the campaign.
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Dave Rutherford
Let me ask you this. First off, thank you for being so honest with the intimacy of that process and that's one of the things that I think I most admire about our friendship and who you are as a man is that you're so comfortable with who you are and how you make your decisions through the word and through the love of your family and the people that you really care deeply for in your life. But obviously that's going to have a profound impact on them. How are you preparing for that impact? What are you going to do to protect your children? What are you going to do? And let's just say, and I'm not even talking about getting into office. We'll talk about that in a second. You know, what are you going to do to protect your family in all of this, this crazy endeavor that you're, you're going down, this, this new op in your life, right?
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah. And that's what. And Eli Crane said that. He said, hey man, this, this thing, he said, whether you, he said, you win it, it'll be great. And he said, but even campaign. And he said, it's like a deployment where you don't get to shoot anybody in the face, which, you know, for us team guys, you know, that's no fun. We want to shoot bad guys in the face. Now you're just out here talking. You know, I'm a freaking keyboard warrior over here behind a desk, like an attorney or something. So, you know, with that being said, prayer man.
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Ryan Seacrest
It starts with prayer, praying. I've been spending, I will tell you the, this, the turmoil that this has created. Just announcing, which isn't, you know, it's not like anything bad's happened, but it's just a stressful thing running a business, running a nonprofit. I'm not coming from a point in the government because I'm not a career politician where they collect a paycheck being in the government and they get to go out and campaign while they collect that paycheck and don't have to do their job. I'm still having to do my job. I'm still having to run both Covenant Rescue Group and the Shooting Institute as we're working through this. So it's a lot of time away and so it requires a lot of prayer. My wife is a super strong lady. She's unbelievably rooted in the Lord and what she does with, what she does with our kids. She does an amazing job. I'll just leave it at that. And so having her as my, as my partner, as my helper as Genesis talks about that I think is the next key piece for us. One of the biggest things. We've been married since we were young. I mean she was, I mean, I think she was 19 when we got married and we were 18 when we started dating. I was like 21. So we've never, there's no infidelity issues. We don't have any, you know, baggage. Not that, not that people that have that, that there's not restoration and there's not hope. And I'm not saying that, I'm just saying for us, we don't have any of those things that are going to be relitigated in our lives. We're just a regular Alabama Christian couple who was in the military. I was in the SEAL teams, did deployments, lost buddies, and then got out of the military after a short time, comparatively to most people. I was only on an eight year contract, like six and a half years active and then your two years or your year and a half irr as I went through a medical process. So I mean we've, we did that part of our life and now we've run a small business. I'm a law enforcement officer. So we're just regular folks. We're not the political elite. We're not people who have a lot of scandals. One of the questions I got asked when we were in D.C. is like, hey, you know, I mean, you know, you had a guy sit over here and he had laundered like hundreds of millions of dollars from his nonprofit. And I busted out laughing. I said, bro, me and my wife are way too poor to ever be accused of theft. You know, I mean, like, what do these people do? You know, I mean, the worst thing we've ever done, you know, is like, hey, hey, we gotta, you know, we gotta go get some, get some snacks on the, on the company credit card or something like that, you know, I mean, we're talking about folks that have, that have laundered money from the taxpayer and have taken money to pay for campaigns from things they shouldn't have mean. And I'm just saying stuff that I just read. I'm not talking about anybody even specifically in Alabama. I'm just talking about in general. That's what we hear. We hear about all of these people doing these nefarious things and we just have never done any of those things. So I will say there is some. The Bible says the wicked flee when no man pursues. And that's one thing we always hear, oh, they're going to bring out all your skeletons or whatever. We're like, I mean, we don't want them bringing out everything in our life, but we ain't got no skeletons. I don't know what skeleton they're going to bring out. They'll have to make it up again because the wicked flee, even though no one pursues. And so that is, I mean, that's how we've prepared ourselves and we're preparing the family for this. Our girls are too young. I've been told at least, hey, your kids are too young to be touched. So if you're going to do this, doing it now is easier than when they're in high school or even early years of college, because then it's free game. So they said, starting this out, if this is a career path that you're going to take to try to change things as a politician, start it out for them now. Will be easier on them down the road. The last thing, the time. We have to be very intentional with your time because you're getting pulled in a bunch of different directions. And we've already noticed that two weeks into this thing.
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Dave Rutherford
Wow. Wow. All right, well, thank you for explaining that, because I think the biggest thing that everybody usually says, why would you ever want to do that? Why would you other want to subject your, your, your family to this whole thing? And I, and I think, you know, and that's why you explain really detailed that explanation of that evaluation process. But there is something deeper, because once somebody ask you, and now you're like, yeah, I want to do this. What is it that you want to do like there? Because it's one thing, a lot of people. And I've got a list right here. You've got Chuck Grassley, 81. He's been in with his, you know, people are supporting him as The Dish Network, DCI Group, Cottingham and Butler. I've got Mitch McConnell, 1985. Right. NORPAC, the Citadel, Blackstone. I've got Patty Murray, 1993. Microsoft, Amazon, Ron Wyden, 96, Dick Durbin, 97. Right. And I have all of these super PACs, and all of these, you know, Blackstone, Lockheed Martin, AIPAC. Even the states that these people represent are their biggest donors. Why do you want to go and participate in that world, Jared, if you are a man of faith, why not keep doing, keep saving people and rescuing people and these. I mean, for the audience that. Listen, if you want to go and hear who this man is, and I highly recommend you go listen to his interview with Sean Ryan, it's one of my favorite interviews Sean ever did by far, because you really speak to the. The man that you are and what your service is. So, you know, as I read out all these things and, and I. And I listened to the interview that you had with Sean, these seem to be kind of diametrically opposite in intentions of, of. Of what it is you're going to do, because you're going to go and you're going to get around these people that are beholden to something that's not what I hear and what I've come to know as, as my friend, you know, what's your mission then, for going up there?
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Ryan Seacrest
Well, I would say the first thing, and I know you'll understand this, and so the listeners can hear, but the position in this case of US Senator. Let's use that, you know, since that's what I'm running for. It's a force multiplier. And it's not. The position itself is neither good nor bad. It's neutral, right? God stands up and tears down governments, and those governments are good and bad. That position of US Senator is good, good or bad. It takes on the face of the person that holds that seat. So it can either be a force multiplier for good, or it could be a force multiplier for bad. One of the two, the force multiplier that this is can be for good or bad. But the important thing for us to understand by force multiplier, what I mean is it's a machine gun. Machine gun in the SEAL teams is a force multiplier. You can give one SEAL a machine gun, and he's now like four seals with an M4 right now. It doesn't mean we don't want those four seals with M4s. It just means this guy can get a little more done in a good way for our small unit. If you give a bad guy a machine gun, one bad guy with a machine gun can negatively impact an entire unit of Navy seals. And we've seen it CQB in a hallway, right? And so do you want a good guy with a machine gun or do you want a bad guy with a machine gun? Well, we want a good guy with a machine gun. The position of US Senator is a machine gun. It is a force multiplier, and you want a good guy to have it. So that's the first reason, because when I look at it, these career politicians, as you just mentioned, in my opinion, they're bad guys, even if they don't have nefarious intent because of who they're bought by because of what they've sought throughout their entire career. Everything they do is political ambition. CS Lewis talks about how self ambition, ambition becomes the catalyst for sin in your life. It's not that striving or desiring to do a good thing or to do something that elevates others in you is bad. But when it becomes ambition, that's in your own heart, that's where it can become bad. And I think for most of these individuals that you name, that's where they're at. That's why they're up there till they're in their 80s or 90s. And for me, just at the surface level, this is not ambition. It's truly service. I mean, you know me, I mean, we've worked together enough. You see what we do, it is really a heart of service. I don't want to go to Washington D.C. every day, but what I do want to do is be a representative for the people, in this case of the state of Alabama, because the preamble to the Constitution says we the people. And as a US Senator, I'm supposed to go to DC on behalf of the people so that I can bring the issues of Alabamians, the issues of Americans, to the capitol at Washington D.C. and make sure that those issues are effectively dealt with as best we can. Right? Because it's never going to be perfect and everybody's not always going to be happy. But we deal with the issues of we the people at the Capitol to hopefully get some restitution and restoration to any problems that exist and continue to elevate this country. And in my case, the state of Alabama. And we do that at the Capitol. And we don't bring all of that stupidity at the Capitol back to we the people or the citizens of the state of Alabama. And too many times we see it the other way around. So that would be the first thing is I'm not going to be here forever. And if I don't do something now, who are we going to have in there that's going to be in there until they're Mitch McConnell's age that are going to continue to bring all of the stupidity to D.C. back here to Alabama, bring it back to my daughters, their future husband, my future grandkids? And it just, it's a never ending cycle. We might not even make it that long. Right? I mean, we're Trump. I will say the Trump administration has done a great job in their first presidency of trying to turn the ship around that was cruising for, you know, not even cruising it was a sinking ship, right? We're going underwater. They did the best they could. Then the Biden administration, man, they put it on steroids. Let's sink this ship as fast as we can. The ship of the United States of America. And I believe the Trump administration is doing the best they can to bail water and get this thing floating again. And for me, I would be a fool if I didn't at least have the opportunity. If I had the opportunity, I didn't at least step in and try to help, I might not ever. I might not be able to forgive myself. Depending on what we see 20 years down the road. Well, there's a long answer. I'm sorry, but that's, that's, that's one.
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Dave Rutherford
No, it's the context, man. People need to understand why you're doing this. And I think the hardest thing is as, as you continue to drill down on the nuance of what those issues are, can you articulate what the issues are for people from Alabama right now? What are they concerned? What you're polling saying, what are the people that you're. Because I know, man, if I know you, you are on the phone, you are talking to those people and asking them what they believe. So what are those issues that you want to tackle when you get up to DC Man?
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Ryan Seacrest
I appreciate you asking that question. I was on a 40 minute phone call today with a guy named Jim Weaver. Great dude, super smart dude. He's a partner in one of the largest businesses in Alabama. I believe they're, if they're not multi billion dollar yet they're at like, you know, hundreds of millions, like 900 million, they're close to a billion. He's part of a massive business and a partner in it. And one of the things that he was talking to me about is, you know, the economics of the big beautiful bill, right. And his concerns with that on the other side of that. Now, he has worked hard to get where he is, but he's in the thing of, hey, we can't print any more money because it doesn't matter if you have wheelbarrow fulls of money. It doesn't matter what kind of tax breaks you get. But that's where he's at on the other side of the issue. Because of who I am, I'm just a regular guy, you know, makes $130,000 a year. Just that regular dude that, you know, we make a good L. I can't complain. But my wife doesn't work. She stays at home with the kids. And that's honestly about what it requires to live in our world nowadays. You know, 90 to 130k a year for a family like ours. And it's either two people in the household working or one person in the household working. And praise God that I'm able to work so that my wife can take care of her kids. We're regular folks. And when I look at it, I say, well, I understand that. But I do know if these tax cuts expire and it goes up, up 5% from what we're already paying, that's going to negatively impact us right now in the moment. So we're in a conundrum, honestly. I mean, we're. You were exactly right. Five, ten years down the road, if the dollar continues to be devalued because we're printing money, that's a problem. Next year, if these Trump tax cuts expire, they might not go up 65 or 70% or whatever the stuff I've been hearing, you know, people saying, or it might not go up like that, but it's going to go up 5% and it's already hard enough as it is.
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Dave Rutherford
That's right.
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Ryan Seacrest
You know, and so those are the issues that regular everyday people are talking about. Whether you're in the wealthy class or whether you're in the middle class, you know where I sit, or whether you're in a class even lower than the middle class. I have plenty of friends that go to church with us that would be considered poverty level. Sheriff's deputies here starting out making, I mean, sheriff's office where I volunteer at and I'm sworn at, they're starting out guys at 18 to $20 an hour there. These guys are taking care of families, serving warrants at 18 or $20 an hour. Brother, that's poverty class. That's getting, that's getting close to poverty level wages. These guys are impacted not by the dollar being devalued because we're printing more. These guys are getting impacted simply by their taxes going up. And so that's. And now this is just a big beautiful bill and this is just one part of it. So asking Alabamians and asking people across a wide spectrum of voter here, man, it's a conundrum. It's kind of like hell, we're danged if we do danged if we don't sort of thing and trying to figure out what is the best fit for that because you can either no more government spending. I think we got to decrease the size of government, period. I love what Doge has done. I love the cutting out of the bureaucracy. And at the same time, we got to make sure that for the regular, everyday person, most people who don't have a nest egg, who don't have a savings that they can lean on, are still not being burdened by tax, you know, tax hikes or tax increases because inflation is going to hurt them. But what's going to hurt them in this moment is having to pay taxes on the tips that I make. Right. So what's the best of both worlds? I don't know. I would say the biggest thing that I found out in all this, everything we hear about this bill that's going through is all opinion, it's all hearsay. I can't find the bill to actually read the entire bill. I can't find it anywhere. I don't know if maybe somebody could tell us where we could access this. I haven't been able to get anybody to find it for me. I found pieces of it that people have talked about. But that is one of the biggest issues that I see is that you have a 1500 page or a 1300 page bill. There ain't a single one of them senators or congressmen that are up there, and I've got a lot of them that I'm friends with. There ain't a single one of them that have read it all. You can't read it all. That, number one, is a problem because everybody is. Proverbs 19:2. Zeal without knowledge caused you to miss the mark. A lot of people are zealous over one specific point, but they don't actually know all of the other points that are in it. So I would say that's probably one of the biggest things I've been talking about that I would like to change. Hey, how can we have legislation that the actual legislator can read, can, can, can read and vote on?
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Dave Rutherford
Well, last year alone, man, they, several congressmen put forth bills to say, all right, we're no more giant bills, we're going to vote on individual issues one at a time. But they won't even bring this stuff to votes in the House, much less it going to the Senate. And I saw, I, I saw a response last week on X that essentially people were saying that even if they tried to codify all the Doge cuts, the majority of Senate won't even touch it. They won't even bring it to a vote. And so you're going to go into this quagmire where they're just entrenched and they know they can outweigh Trump, they know they can outweigh whoever, especially if they're in these districts where, states where it's not even a second thought. Mitch McConnell, right? Nope. Nobody's going to have the campaign to run against them or has the courage or whatever. So they just sit in these places and just wait till that senior leadership. What is your approach? I'm sorry, last little piece. What is your approach when you go up there? Because one, you got to work with these people, but two, you've got to call them out and you've got to be able to bring these things, you know, if not, you know, and we always joke in our world, right? We're, we're not the infantry. We're not, you know, we're not the Marine Corps. But what we are is we're going to punch you in the face and get that thing bleeding and set you up for the downfall. And so what are you going to do to go up there and bring that warrior mindset to D.C. specifically?
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, well, I would say the first thing and you kind of mentioned it, right? Hey, they're not going to bring in any, they're not going to codify any of this, any of this stuff, any of these DOGE cuts right now, I am a firm believer. I'm not a go along to get along kind of guy, but we were team guys. We do have to figure out how to work to complete the mission. Right. And so what is the mission? Well, right now the mission is, you know, the House and the Senate working together with the executive branch to hopefully get something done that positively impacts the American people, but also doesn't just positively impact them in this moment, that doesn't terribly negatively impact us down the road. Guess what? Because of a lot of the guys you mentioned and because of 30, maybe even 40 years, I don't know, maybe it could be as long as I've been alive of. Or maybe longer than that, for that matter of bad policies and bad choices there. It's like when the water boy, your chickens are coming home to roost. Bobby Boucher. Our chickens are coming home to roost, brother. So we're in a bad situation no matter what we do. And it might be that you get up there, it might be that I get up and I say, hey, what? Why don't we want to codify these things?
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Dave Rutherford
Okay, once again, apologize for the interruption with the incredible interview with Jared Hudson. But what I want to do is I just want to promote where you can go to support his campaign. So the first place is hudsonforalabama.com that's their website where you can see all different types of information there. And you can donate specifically. Right. And you can donate in three capacities. Right. First, you can give. One person can give $3,500 for his primary election, you can give $3,500 for the general election, and then you can give another $3,500 if you have to spend a runoff. All right? And you can either donate online at that hudson for alabama.com or you can make checks out to Hudson for Alabama. And that's P.O. box 100, Gardendale, Alabama 35071. That's Hudson for Alabama, P.O. box 100, gardendale, Alabama 35071. And those are checks. And make them. Make them payable to Hudson for Alabama. The other one you can reach out to is Alabama, his super PAC, which is Alabama conservatives. It's not his super PAC, but it's a super PAC that supports him. It's illegal to have super PACs connected to you, but they support and want to support Jared in this capacity. So check out Alabama Conservatives again, please. You know I have never tried to support or raise support for any political affiliate openly or publicly before. But this is how much I truly believe in Jared Hudson and the impact that he's going to make in the Senate, in the US Senate, once he becomes senator for the great state of Alabama.
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Ryan Seacrest
Thank you. So we're in a bad situation no matter what we do. And it might be that you get up there, it might be that I get up and I say, hey, what? Why don't we want to codify these things? And there might be a really good reason behind why we can't codify these things. And being able just to present that to the. To. To the. To the voter, to the people, and saying, guys, this is why this can't happen. Because, again, I used Proverbs 19:2 earlier. Zeal without knowledge causes you to miss the mark. I can be super pumped and super excited about the answer that I think we should get, but if I have zero knowledge about what's really going on, guess what? I'm going to miss the thing entirely. And that might be what's going on right now. People get fired up when they feel the negative impact of decisions that a lot of them are not. Macon. So for me, I would say being able to go in as a. As a true man of the people, because that's what I am. I'm not a career politician. As somebody who's not bought and paid for by lobbyists and a lot of these other individuals that are. That are career politicians are bought and paid for by a lot of the different lobbying firms and corporations. You talked about getting up there and saying, hey, we the people want to know. But also not being that one guy who is up there screaming and pitching a fit. It's a bunch of symbolism without substance. And it's like all this dude ever does is scream and cry and say, collusion, collusion, collusion, dirty dossier. All of the crap we've heard over all the years from all these media talking heads and some politicians, that doesn't get anything done either. You're just a crybaby is all you are understanding. How can we effectively work to actually get something done that's gonna positively impact my kids, your kids, our community, in our case, the state of Alabama and ultimately the United States of America. And when the United States of America is doing well, the world for that matter, the one thing I would say, I don't have all the answers to everything or what I would do in a certain situation, because I'm not in that situation. I've Never been in the same fistfight or the same gunfight twice. But I do understand the basics of fist fight and gun fighting, and I can apply those basics to wherever I'm at. It's the same thing with getting into the position of a US Senator. It's going to be different each and every time. What I do know is this. The Trump administration, when he came in, when he, when he won the 2016 election. Excuse me. And we had four years of Trump. One thing I do know, my company was doing a whole lot better then than it is now. Life was a whole lot easier then than it is now. Not because money solves all problems, but everybody will say, the Bible says that money is the root of all evil. No, it says that money is the root of all kinds of evil, number one. But number two, in Ecclesiastes, it also says that money solves a multitude of problems. And I can tell you we had better cash flow as a business. This is just me, my family, when Trump was in than we do now after four years of Biden. And I can tell you this much, I'm going to take a hard look at what Donald Trump is saying and doing, because guess what? He's already proven once that he can fix the problems that were created by a bunch of politicians. And if he's saying again, hey, I really think this is how we fix these problems, I'm going to give a hard look at what he's saying. Say, you know what? I kind of trust what he's saying a little bit more than anybody else, because he's been the only one that's been able to fix it so far. Far. Or at least set the course straight where it hasn't impacted me and the people around me. That's just my front intake. And that's not being a Trump sycophant either. That's just being somebody who's looked at it and said, this dude said he would go up here and fight for us, and he didn't take any money to do it. He didn't gain anything. Yeah, I mean, he's truly being a patriot. He didn't gain anything in, in going and doing this. And now he's saying, again, this is what we need to do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna lean on his wisdom in those things because he's proven to be right already. I believe he'll probably prove himself to be right again.
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Dave Rutherford
Well, that's. For me, that was everything. I mean, I'm friends with, with people, you know, that were. Participated in his Original campaign that are good friends with him, that were business partners with him for a long time, and. And the one thing they always say is a guy that has a $25 million legal bill every single month and has had every single thing thrown at him from every type of indictment, every type of this, tried an assassination attempt twice, to me, that's the guy that they don't want up there.
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Ryan Seacrest
Right, Exactly. I mean, you're hitting the nail on the head, and it's like the tariff stuff got a lot of buddies. It hurt our business. Got a lot of buddies that say, yeah, man, we're filling it. A lot of buddies that are farmers that said, we're filling the tariffs. But they said, we understand why it's got to happen. It's kind of like doing squats when you work out, right? When you do squats, they're absolutely terrible. Doing squats is no fun. But guess what? If I do squats for three weeks, I'm going to build my legs. I'm getting better. That friction creates a level of strength. Right? And that's what we're trying to do. The friction creating a level of strength in us economically, I think, is what we see taking place right now. It's not always going to be easy, and that's what everybody wants. Everybody wants to push the button and it be an easy fix. We live in a microwave society. That's not going to work, y' all. I'm not going to be able to go to D.C. and push a button and all of a sudden microwave something as a US Senator and say, oh, yep, it's all fixed, it's better. But what we can do is, one, make it to where we can breathe a little bit now. And I believe the Trump administration is trying to do that, and I believe that that is their aim, their heart, their goal. And I believe that they'll be successful in it because they've already been successful once before. The other thing is, is the. Not just what the Trump administration is doing, but in what we do, as the people of the United States of America have to understand that right now we're planting trees knowing that we will never sit in the shade. These trees that we're planting are not for us. Me going to Washington D.C. will not be for me. It will be for my kids and my grandkids. These career politicians, they want whatever they can have now. They plant the tree now and they pillage it as soon as they can, and they leave nothing for our future, for our kids, and I don't want that that's, you know, so I don't know. I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's my heart.
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Dave Rutherford
That's where I'm at. All right, last question, because I know you're busy, man. How, how are you going to select the people that you have on your team? And, and how are you gonna, how are you gonna guarantee that the people of Alabama that you're not gonna be corrupted, that you're not going to get up there and have these, these packs, these lobby firms come at you with insane amount of, of temptation? You know, how are you going to select that team? How are you gonna, and then how are you gonna fight that, that temptation?
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Ryan Seacrest
No, absolutely. Well, you know, the biggest thing would be fighting that temptation right now. What we see, at least with the people that are in the, in the race with me right now, that's what they have behind them. They're career politicians. That's who's funding them, that's who's doing them, doing their, you know, pushing them forward, right? Elevating those people. For me, I don't have that. I have the people. I mean, we are strictly trying to do a grassroots fund raising effort to get there. I was told, hey, $2 million will go further for you than 10 million will go for some of these other people that have talked about running or that are running. I would prefer to get 2 million $1 donations than one $2 million check. They spend the same way, but they're two completely different things. As a representative of the people, I am beholden to the people. That's the first thing. You're beholden to the people that you've been elected to represent, not to those who write you a paycheck on the side. And that's oftentimes what we see. Now here's the deal. For me, everybody says, well, how do we know? It's easy to say that, but how do you know you won't do it? Well, you can look at what I've done in my life, right? And I've at least proven it with what we've done with Covenant Rescue Group. I've been offered a lot of money to do a lot of things that somebody shouldn't do, do that make sense, and I haven't taken it yet. That's all I can say. The other thing is I answer to God when I die, I'm not going to stand before God. And he said, why should I let you into my heaven? Well, Dave Rutherford told me this. That's not going to be good. Enough, right? Well, this guy wrote me a paycheck for this. That's not good enough. The Bible tells us a bribe perverts all justice. I know that you probably have listeners out there like, hey, I don't want some Bible thumping guy up there. Well, I appreciate that, but understand that when you believe what I believe, you believe that you are answering to something greater than yourself. And the thing that I'm answering to greater than myself is God. God will only put me in a place or remove me from a place, depending on if I follow his commandments. And what are his commandments? Love the Lord God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. Elevate something over you and love your neighbor as yourself. Meaning I love the person that I'm elected to represent, at least equally with me. I don't have to elevate somebody else over the other person. I just have to love you the same as I love myself. And if you do those two things, all of the law, everything that we see hinges on all of that. That's what Jesus tells us. And I believe it's true. Now, I believe Jesus is the savior of the world. And the reason he said that is because God comes first and then man. However, let's say you don't believe that. I think you can agree with those principles. There's something more important than Jared Hudson. And at a minimum, I can put you on the same playing field as me. Most of these people that are political elites, they think that they're the kings and queens of this country. They are not. You are the king and the queen of this country. You are the king and queen, in my case of the state of Alabama, you the voter. We, the people are the kings and queens. And we cast our vote to elect a representative, an official who's going to carry out our will. The will of the people. And what is the will of the people? Well, it should be that everybody has their constitutional rights upheld and protected that are not given to us by government, but that are given to us by God and that are codified in the U.S. constitution, in particular the Bill of Rights, the first 10amendments of the U.S. constitution. So that's what I intend to go do. That's what I seek to do. And I think if you hold to that, hold to God, hold to the Constitution, hold to us, upholding the will of the people, right? Not the whims of the people, those are two different things. But the will of the people, then I believe that we can have a positive impact. And that's how you Keep from being bribed into wickedness and you uphold truth and justice.
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Dave Rutherford
Amen. All right, Jared, where can people follow you? Where can they donate to you? How can they volunteer to create the, the, the army that are in our case, right. The Navy to support you and, and your quest to get up there and do what you just said you're going to do for, for the people.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, man. So if they go to hudsonforalabama.com you can follow us there, follow what we're doing on social media. You can click on the, the donate link and donate. If you're financial, financially able to donate. We need all of the financial support we can get because I don't want to be one of those people who a lobbyist firm comes to and says, hey, we want to put $10 million in the super PAC to support you. Right. You don't want that, right? I don't want to be bought out. Well, how do you do that? A grassroots movement. It's got to be a movement of the people if you want to volunteer, if you have the ability to volunteer. Right now we're in strict fundraising mode. But as we get on into this campaign and get closer to the, the May primary in the state of Alabama, the May 2026 primary, we will make sure that we reach back out. If you send us a message and say, hey, I can volunteer to knock doors, pick up phones, call people, put out signs, whatever it is, we'll make sure that you're contacted when that time comes. Because right now it's fundraising, it's getting ready for the fight. And then the next step of the fight will be full on campaign mode. It's going to be a battle, it's going to be a battle against the political elite, against those who have political ambitions, those career politicians, and truly a movement of we the people. And that's why it takes a warrior to do it. And you're a, you're a fellow warrior, right? And so make sure that people know that that's exactly what I am. I am a warrior. I am a fighter and I intend to fight on behalf of the people. Sign up and fight alongside us.
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Dave Rutherford
Amen. Jared Hudson, Brother, it's just such an honor. And again, it's an inspiration not only for my faith in that America has hope and that my children and their children are going to have some shade to appreciate the beauty of what our God given rights are, but more importantly that someone who has the faith that you do and the Lord is going to go up there and represent us in that capacity. So God bless you brother. Behind you.
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Ryan Seacrest
Thank you Dave. I appreciate it brother.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Ryan Seacrest
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