Hour 1 - 60 Minutes of Arrogance

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - 60 Minutes of Arrogance
Date: June 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the tumult and drama surrounding the California primary elections for Governor and Los Angeles Mayor, the implications of slow ballot counts, and broader state and national political trends. Clay and Buck analyze election mechanics, the rise of “celebrity politics,” and critique the media—especially through the lens of 60 Minutes’ recent controversies. The tone oscillates between frustration, humor, and sharp political commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California Election Delays and Implications

• Main Issue: Prolonged counting of ballots in California, causing uncertainty in major races such as the Governor’s and LA Mayor’s primary.
• Hot Races:
  • Governor’s Race: Javier Becerra (Dem) likely to face Steve Hilton (Rep) in November.
  • LA Mayor’s Race: Karen Bass (incumbent) won the primary, but not by enough to avoid a runoff—first time in 20 years. Spencer Pratt expected to advance.

"This is a feature, not a bug, of California elections. It now takes longer to count California elections than it did in the 19th century...this is unacceptable." — Clay Travis (03:15)

• Impact Beyond California: The races are seen as bellwethers with potential influence on national turnout and political narrative.

Notable Exchange (Frustration Over Process):

"We are asking to speak to the manager on this one, the manager of California elections." — Buck Sexton (04:30)
"I'm going to go full Karen. Very justified Karen here. This is inexcusable." — Clay Travis (04:41)

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2. The Political Stakes: Blue vs. Red Models

• Dynamics: The potential of a Republican breakthrough in deep-blue California, and the national implications if Steve Hilton or Spencer Pratt win.

"The Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton campaigns have clearly resonated...this will be an opportunity from now until election day for Californians, but also the rest of the country to observe what the differences in governance approach are..." — Buck Sexton (06:03)

• Gavin Newsom’s Future: The outcome affects Governor Newsom’s presidential aspirations, especially if a Republican takes over.

"If I’m looking at this and I’m on the Hilton or Pratt campaigns, I feel very good about the results yesterday." — Buck Sexton (07:16)

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3. The Rise of Celebrity Politics

• Spencer Pratt’s Mayoral Run: Cited as a case of "celebrity politics," drawing inevitable comparisons to Trump.

"We’re now in an era of true celebrity politics. Obviously Donald Trump, among others, and you have somebody who is going to get free media attention, positive and negative. But attention is attention in this environment that Karen Bass just can’t match.” — Buck Sexton (12:28)

• Authenticity and Media Savvy: Spencer Pratt acknowledged past personal spending mistakes:

"Yes, I spent all this money. I was also 22, 23 years old, was planning on being Kim Kardashian rich and famous...it wasn’t tax money. So if we’re going to say he spent 10 million of his own money when he's 23, this lady, Karen Bass just spent $400 million last year of our money to house allegedly 1400 people." — Spencer Pratt (11:43)

• Cross-Party Appeal: A Democrat voter explicitly supports Pratt because of his approach to homelessness:

"As a person who used to be homeless myself, I was rendered the services that he's talking about. I was able to change my life...his approach is really good...This way, both of them can go ahead and prove to me why they deserve my vote." — L.A. Voter (13:41)

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4. Broader Election Trends: Gerrymandering and Redistricting

• Important Ruling: The Supreme Court upholds Alabama’s new congressional map, which opens the door for more Republican districts in several Southern states.

"The Supreme Court...said no, this Alabama map is constitutional...that is three additional districts: Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee." — Clay Travis (24:52)

• Implication: Shift in Congressional balance, and forecasts that Democratic pathways to House majorities are shrinking due to population shifts and redistricting.

"Once the 2030 census comes down, the Democrat pathway to a majority in the House...almost becomes a mathematical impossibility." — Clay Travis (25:24)

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5. Media Critique: The Fall of 60 Minutes’ Scott Pelly

• Story Recap: Scott Pelly ousted from 60 Minutes after clashing with new management.
• Broader Point: Clay and Buck lampoon the arrogance and perceived entitlement among elite broadcast journalists.

"Scott Pelly just sounds like the most pompous douchebag on the planet...He is so wildly in love with the importance of the work that he’s done..." — Buck Sexton (29:14)

• Changing Media: Emphasis on hustle and audience building over inherited platforms.

"Pelly comes from a world where you get a job and that job makes you a star...The Internet, really, which is where I came from. Where you came from is a really knockdown, drag out meritocracy." — Clay Travis (31:00)

• Memorable Anecdote:

"I watched in the control room one day as he directed them to slowly push the shot in on him as he took his glasses off. It was so fake. I’ve remembered it for 15 years." — Read on air by Clay Travis (34:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 03:15 | "It now takes longer to count California elections than it did in the 19th century...this is unacceptable." | Clay Travis | | 04:30 | "We are asking to speak to the manager on this one..." | Buck Sexton | | 06:03 | "This will be an opportunity...for the rest of the country to observe what the differences in governance approach are..." | Buck Sexton | | 11:13 | "Obviously God wanted five more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor. So it’s going to be a fun ride. I hope she’s ready..." | Spencer Pratt | | 11:43 | "Yes, I spent all this money....I wasn’t hoarding my money. Like, this was my one run at the game. But that idea again, that’s my money. It wasn’t tax money." | Spencer Pratt | | 12:28 | "We’re rolling into Pratt Boy Summer here, my friend. I mean, this is going to be amazing..." | Buck Sexton | | 13:41 | "As a person who used to be homeless myself, I was rendered the services that he’s talking about. I was able to change my life...his approach is really good." | L.A. Voter | | 25:24 | "Once the 2030 census comes down, the Democrat pathway to a majority in the House...almost becomes a mathematical impossibility." | Clay Travis | | 29:14 | "Scott Pelly just sounds like the most pompous douchebag on the planet, honestly. And that is, I think, the proper term for him." | Buck Sexton | | 31:00 | "Pelly comes from a world where you get a job and that job makes you a star...The Internet...is a really knockdown, drag out meritocracy." | Clay Travis | | 34:28 | "I watched in the control room one day as he directed them to slowly push the shot in on him as he took his glasses off. It was so fake." | Listener anecdote via Clay Travis |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:43 - Show open; Primary results from California; ballot counting woes
• 04:30 - Satirical "Karen" response to election delays
• 06:03 - Analysis: Hilton and Pratt’s campaigns signify a red challenge in blue California
• 11:13 - Spencer Pratt addresses entering LA mayoral runoff (audio clip)
• 11:43 - Pratt defends his past spending—pivot to campaign authenticity
• 13:41 - Democrat explains support for Pratt due to homelessness policies (audio clip)
• 20:28 - Tensions about late-arriving ballots in California
• 24:52 - Supreme Court upholds Alabama GOP-favoring map; national implications
• 29:14 - Extended riff on the fall of Scott Pelly and arrogance in legacy media
• 34:28 - Listener anecdote: Pelly’s staged on-air gestures

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Tone: Witty, irreverent, and deeply skeptical of establishment political and media actors.
• Analysis: Both hosts express persistent skepticism toward California’s election integrity, marvel at the rise and resonance of celebrity politics, and scorn a decaying mainstream media class.
• Memorable Dynamics: The episode is animated by Clay’s pragmatic, sometimes exasperated optimism and Buck’s quick, sardonic banter.

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For Further Listening

• The episode promises ongoing coverage as the California and national political stories evolve, especially noting the long ballot counting and new faces in “celebrity politics.”
• Watch for more analysis on the Supreme Court’s redistricting decisions as the 2028 and 2030 elections approach.

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Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

wrestling.com welcome in for the Wednesday edition. Clay and Buck lots to get into during the course of the program, but obviously most of the attention right now is headed all towards what is going to happen in California and right now it appears that Javier got it right that time. Becerra is going to win the top primo spot potentially in the California Governor's primary, but that Steve Hilton is going to come in the top two and that those two candidates would advance to the November election. Also LA Mayor which has gotten a tremendous amount of attention. Karen Bass, the incumbent mayor it appears will be the front runner will win the primary, but not with the 50% plus that she is needed to win by in order to keep a runoff from happening. She is the first incumbent mayor to advance to a runoff In I think 20 years or so in Los Angeles and Spencer Pratt it appears is going to advance as well. I say appears Buck and I was in bed last night clicking refresh on my phone until after 1am on the east coast trying to see whether we were going to get any true resolution here. We still have not. This is a feature, not a bug, of California elections. It now takes longer to count California elections than it did in the 19th century. They are saying it might be a week or more, potentially weeks until the full tallies are all in and we know who is going to advance to the runoff irrespective of politics. This is unacceptable. I'm surprised that it isn't a bigger story. The fact that we have allowed the largest state in the nation to have multi week counting processes in very contested elections is frankly unacceptable. But that is where we are. That is why we do not know the full results. Every other state that had a primary, bit of an upset and in the Iowa governor's Republican primary, otherwise most of the favorites have won. But Buck, Steve Hilton is up about two points right now in the overall tallies and we are waiting to see how many more actual votes will come in. This is just, to me, it's indefensible in all respects that this could be allowed to occur.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, why allow it to occur? Right? We can work backwards a little bit from this. You're. I mean we are, we are asking to speak to the manager on this one, the manager of California elections.

[Clay Travis]

I'm going to go full Karen. Very justified Karen here. This is, this is inexcusable. But again, it's a feature, not a bug. They want this to happen.

[Buck Sexton]

There is a spill in the aisle that is creating a hazard, sir. It needs to be dealt with right away. I think that a few things come together. One is, why have it this way? Because even if you could assure me and you can't, but even if one could assure me that this is all on the up and up, they'll eventually get to the proper result again. Some of you are already chuckling at this, but I would say there's the confidence that is lost in the process. Right. It has to have the appearance of propriety. It has to look to people like this is valid and that stuff, shenanigans, shall we say, are not occurring. So look, we can't change this. Californians maybe could going forward, but you and I don't have the power to wave a magic wand right now. That all said, Clay, this is a very encouraging result. There you go.

[Clay Travis]

Coming in with the positive side here. Thank you. This is, I do think, I do think this is an encouraging result. Sorry to cut you off there, but I'm still frustrated about the fact that California has been doing this for years now. But if we get the results that we are trending towards right now. To your point.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, just, just to, so to Steve Hilton vs Becerra now and to the mayor's race for Los Angeles. I mean the fact that this has come down to not just a Republican and a Democrat in the two most visible races. I know there's other, there were state legislature and California House seats and sorry, that's a little too local. You know, we're on, we're on in all 50 states. I can't tell you about the, all the different districts of California, those different races and, and how they shook out. But I will say, Clay, the Spencer Pratt slash Steve Hilton campaigns have clearly resonated, are to be taken seriously, will have to be taken seriously by their opponents. And at a minimum this will be an opportunity from now until election day for Californians, but also the rest of the country to observe what the differences in governance approach are to observe the blue state versus red state versus model exposed and explained for all to see. And Clay, it's also going to take a lot of money for Democrats to keep these, to keep these important races in their hands and maybe they lose. I mean if I, if I'm looking at this and I'm on the Hilton or Pratt campaigns, I feel very good about the results yesterday.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I think that's right. And regardless of what ends up happening in the LA Mayor's race or the California Governor's race, there's such big central campaigns that they may even motivate turnout, certainly down ballot in California for the relatively few Republican potentially winnable congressional seats after they have redistricted in, in, in California. But more importantly potentially they could also help to drive overall turnout in the midterms as people out there are hearing these arguments and the frustration of LA being incompetent, it resonates, right? The reality is the frustrations that people deal with in LA, Chicago, New York City, Washington D.C. they resonate even in places where I live, in Nashville, Miami, where you live. Those races are so big and there's so many people that are connected to them that even what happens in the LA mayors race might have an impact in terms of the way people feel, the way they vote in Arizona or Nevada or Texas or any other number of states out there.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I'll tell you somebody else who's going to be watching this while drinking his Pinot gris with his shirt buttoned down to his navel looking, looking handsome, looking like he is an oleaginous fellow and that would be the Governor of California. Currently, Gavin Newsom, because Clay, he obviously has designs on the presidency, certainly thinks, and I think he's the leading contender. Although you have put forward this Kamala and the more you say it, just the more upsetting it is because it actually starts to make more sense. So I can't even go there right now that Kamala might actually be. I truly believe that she was the worst Democrat candidate of our lifetime, meaning just the lack of skill, the lack of ability, everything. And she may in fact still be the nominee, which is crazy to me. But let's not go down that pathway right now. Gavin Newsom, if it's a really close race for Steve Hilton, I think the governor's. It has to be the governor's mansion, not the LA mayor's race for this one. But it's a really rough look. If you've been the governor of California for a long time and on your way out, when you want to be the president of the ultimate blue stronghold Democrat state, a Republican has to come in to clean up your mess. I think that that actually resonates. I think that that's going to be a problem for him in the presidential election, which my friends we're going to be diving into in one year, basically.

[Clay Travis]

That's right. And by the way, I'm looking in real time. If you're out there and you're saying, this is so frustrating, 84% chance, real time. Steve Hilton is advancing to the runoff pretty much like we said before. Javier Becerra is 96.8% in real time to advance. And Spencer Pratt right now is 65% to advance. It's down between he and Nitya Raman. And Ramen is 31% chance. She is a far left winger who tried to challenge Karen Bass from the left. And Spencer Pratt literally, as I'm talking to you right now, just went to 68%. So these are real time prediction markets. Poly Market, Kalshi, you can go look at these and see how things are shaking out. Spencer Pratt has already said basically, hey, that, that he is on and he expects to advance. And this is cut 15, the battle for LA. As we move towards having a runoff, two final contenders. Here's what Spencer Pratt said.

[Spencer Pratt]

Obviously God wanted five more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor. So it's going to be a fun ride. I hope she's ready. This is the first Time what Since 2005, an incumbent is going to a runoff. This is not a candidate that I'm too concerned about.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, a couple of these cuts Are good Buck. I want to play this other one, too. Spencer Pratt criticized that he blew a lot of money when he was a young guy in the early 2000s. Cut 19. This is a pretty good response.

[Spencer Pratt]

Everything I ever spent money on, they act like I didn't have it. So, yes, I spent all this money. I was also 22, 23 years old, was planning on being Kim Kardashian, rich and famous. So I wasn't hoarding my money. Like, this was my one run at the game. But that idea again, that's my money. It wasn't tax money. So if we're going to say he spent 10 million of his own money when he's 23, this lady, Karen Bass just spent $400 million last year of our money to house allegedly 1400 people.

[Clay Travis]

People.

[Spencer Pratt]

We're going to do the who spends more reckless money. And mine wasn't reckless. I had great dinners. I treated a lot of friends. I'll run it back right now. This is what's going to stop me from being mayor. Like those decisions. I would have done all those decisions.

[Buck Sexton]

Again, we're rolling into Pratt. Pratt, boy summer here, my friend. I mean, this is going to be amazing that he points it out. Clay months and months for him to just run the tape, tell everybody what's going on, make his case. And what you have here also is we're now in an era of true celebrity politics. Obviously Donald Trump, among others, and you have somebody who is going to get free media attention, positive and negative. But attention is attention in this environment that Karen Bass just can't match. In fact, she doesn't really want attention. She just wants the machine to do the work for her.

[Clay Travis]

I love the pivot there. And I think this is what we're going to see more and more of in politics and authenticity. Yeah, I was a moron when I was 22 or 23. I made some bad decisions. You probably did, too. I'm focused on the now is a really good immediate pivot. I also like this one, too. It works here. Cnn, a reporter stunned in a live LA interview, a Democrat saying, hey, you're voting for Spencer Pratt. Cut 20.

[Buck Sexton]

As a Democrat, are voting for Spencer Pratt.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, sir.

[Spencer Pratt]

Why is that?

[Clay Travis]

I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a person who used to be homeless myself, I was rendered the services that he's talking about. I was able to change my life. 10 years sober with no alcohol and stuff like that. So his approach is really good. I do think it's fair for him to go off with the runoff with Karen Bass. This way, both of them can go ahead and prove to me why they deserve my vote. Here's a question for you that. That's an interesting take there too, Buck. Will Karen Bass debate Spencer Pratt again? Because with just the two of them on the stage, she was obliterated. So was Natia Ramen in that last debate. And they both said, we won't debate again. Is Karen Bass just going to run and hide? Because Spencer Pratt is much better at communicating than she is.

[Buck Sexton]

She's not going to do. She's not.

[Clay Travis]

Is there, by the way, is there

[Buck Sexton]

online bag on this one?

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[Buck Sexton]

Because I. She's not going to debate this guy again. And if I, in fact, if I were her campaign manager, I would probably tell her, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. She is relying on the, you know, the nonprofit industrial complex, the public sector unions, the welfare recipients. She's relying on those constituencies to push her over, over the edge here for Los Angeles. That's really. And that's what it's going to come down to. And it's a question of, can Spencer Pratt make the case persuasively enough to people who have a willingness to at least hear about what's going on there? And I. But I thought, I know you played it when I was gone and we were texting about it. But that is Doug Allen, right, From Entourage.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, Doug Allen. Yeah. I mean, I think that kind of

[Buck Sexton]

gets to it because.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

He's not just saying, hey, I think there's too many homeless encampments in the street, which is a very real prominent. He's saying, I had a home invasion, guys.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

This is real to me. This is personal. Spencer Pratt is saying, they burned my house down. Okay. A leftist lunatic burned it down, and the city of Los Angeles failed to put it out among, you know, thousands of other people's homes. So there's powerful narrative here. But anyway, look, I think it's a very. Clay. Would you agree, a very good result

[Clay Travis]

overall if, if the results hold, we'll play you some of these cuts. I'm just nervous, Buck, because of what we've seen with these late arriving.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. We got to.

[Clay Travis]

Look, the fact that it's not hundred percent that we know that Hilton and Pratt have advanced just makes me nervous with the way that these ballots keep coming in for weeks. And how close is it going to end up being? I feel like I've seen this script before.

[Buck Sexton]

That is a very valid point. And we should all keep that in mind. That will be super. That would be a major bummer. It would go from Bill and it would go from Steve and Spencer's excellent adventure to their bogus journey.

[Clay Travis]

You know, that is very well. That is very well phrased.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

When did we become the Lingokids house?

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[Clay Travis]

This week it's Lingokids. Why Lingokids? Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

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[Buck Sexton]

welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. And let's just get to this because Clay is reminding me. I see I was a little too optimistic. I got to keep you all on your toes. I can't let clay just be Mr. Sunshine. And I'm like, so I was thinking it was a great result yesterday. It is so far a great result in California, but it ain't over. And this is cut 23, Steve Kornacki, who's like actually reasonably nice, seems like a normal guy over at NBC. Play this one. It's just going to have to be such a flood of Democratic ballots coming

[Clay Travis]

in after, you know, being tabulated after

[Buck Sexton]

election night or into the wee hours this morning. That would just lift both Democrats over Hilton. That's increasing what it needs to be for Steyer Clay. Could it be a raging inferno of last minute ballots that go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, our whole audience is nodding along and saying yes. This is why I was so nervous last night. And the fact that the longer this thing drags on that Spencer Pratt and or Steve Hilton may be dealing with a tsunami of mail in ballots which. Oh, oh, it's amazing. It's amazing how this happens. It's 20,000 straight ballots that all vote the exact same way. They send these ballots out to everybody. Buck. California's entire election system is broken. And until we get some form of finality, I'm just nervous about what might happen. That's why I was staying up last night till 1am clicking refresh and I'm still not sold that we're going to get the result 100% that we want. But I do want to tell all of you that Tunnel the Towers does incredible work taking care of so many of our American heroes. Heroes like United States Navy Chief Technician Shannon Kent. Her service was inspired by 9 11. A decorated warrior and mother, Shannon served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. She lost her life in a suicide bomb attack in syria in this 25th year of 9 11. Her sacrifice reminds us of the cost and lasting impact of that day. Shannon left behind her husband Joseph and their two young sons and she gave up everything so she could live and help fight for all of our freedom. Help even more families like the Kents. By joining and donating with us to Tunnel to Towers you can make a world of difference. Donate $11 a month at t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org welcome back in Clay and Buck. Okay, we continue to monitor the ongoing ballots coming in in the LA Mayor's race and also in the California governor's race. Our friend Steve Hilton in a very good spot right now. But the counting, as I was just saying, is going to be going on for so long that it is infuriating to me. There are, however, a couple of other big stories that are out there, Buck and I did want to mention this because it's kind of snowed, flown under the radar a bit because it came out right as all this voting was happening in the primaries. The Supreme Court has allowed the new Alabama map. So in the wake of Calais vs. Louisiana, which was the racial gerrymandering case, my home state of Tennessee, Alabama and Louisiana have all redrawn their congressional districts. The judges in Alabama said this is impermissible and they struck down the new map that Alabama had drawn. The Supreme Court almost immediately took up this case and pushed back 6 to 3, the same margin as the Calais decision and and said no, we have to this Alabama map is constitutional. Buck, why does this matter? Some of you may say, well one, it is an additional Republican district in the state of Alabama. It's an additional Republican district in the state of Louisiana. And it's an additional Republican district in the state of Tennessee. That is three additional districts. South Carolina elected not to redraw its district district map. Georgia has made the same decision. Mississippi has made the same decision. This further makes it clear that all three of those states have the ability to go in and redraw their maps. It also makes Florida's map far more likely, which was already redrawn, to be able to stand, and is going to fundamentally reconfigure much of what is going on in many of these Southern states where racially gerrymandered districts had been the law of the land for the past couple of generations. So this will have not only a big impact coming up in the fall, potentially depending on how close this ends up being, but also I think is going to be quite significant. When you look at Mississippi, South Carolina and Georgia redistricting, uh, this is a story worth paying attention to for 2028. And here is the bigger picture story that I think is significant. Buck. Once the 2030 census comes down, the Democrat pathway to a majority in the House, if they continue to run with the same party ideals with which they are imbued right now, almost becomes a mathematical impossibility. And what you say, what do we mean by that, Clay? The population that is surging into states like Florida, where Buck is, Tennessee, where I am, Texas, where our biggest audience is among others, red state populations are soaring. And this is going to have a transformative impact when the new census comes out, not only in the House, but also for the Electoral College, where the pathway for Democrats to win by running the table in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, for instance, is going to cease to exist.

[Buck Sexton]

When you want to talk about Scott Pelly getting his ass booted from 60

[Clay Travis]

Minutes, because that was fun, you might want to dive into that. I love this.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, your. All your, your political analysis and of the map is astute. And we're going to be getting more and more into that, of course, as we get closer to the actual election, which is going to be pivotal. And look, I have the greatest hope that Trump is able to help corral the Republicans and the party such that they maintain the House and the Senate, because otherwise, as we know it just. They jam up. They jam up the president as much as they can. If they get the House, they're going to impeach him again. It's just going to be a mess. Doesn't mean that there's not a lot that will still be done and accomplished. It just means that things will get, well, messier in the meantime. Yeah. Do you want to do 60 minutes or if you have more political stuff?

[Clay Travis]

I'm not saying he's. Now, I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that ruling because I think it's gotten kind of snowed under with all of the election results coming in last night. And I do think it's really significant. I love this 60 Minute story because this is the 60 Minutes reporters are, I think the, the most arrogant and lacking in basic comprehension of the modern media environment of almost anyone out there. This guy Pelly. 60 minutes makes millions of dollars a year to do a few stories a year. And I think this is significant. Two Buck, the only reason anybody watches 60 Minutes is because they put it on right after the NFL games. Anybody who like me spends a lot of time watching the NFL games, they start advertising 60 Minutes. Buck. They could put me doing a flute recital on CBS right after the NFL and I got to give, we got

[Buck Sexton]

to give the ladies something to look at. I mean, shirtless, shirtless flute. Clay, I think gets millions of views after the Super Bowl.

[Clay Travis]

Tens of millions of viewers right after the NFL. So they're so cocky about how many people watch 60 Minutes. And, and nobody ever points out. Yeah, because they put it on right after the NFL game.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, we've seen this with so many of these people who, they become their egomaniacs and they have no sense of humility about the fact that they're incredibly. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel is one of them, for example. I know that's on the comedy side, allegedly. But these people are handed massive platforms now just, just to clear the air. By the way, somebody might say, oh well, you guys are here. And like Rush built, first of all, we always say Rush built this house that we are in and we honor him and we appreciate him. And Rush taught me how to do radio over many years of listening to him. And I used to fill in for Rush and all that. But also Clay independently had a successful radio was like trunch warfare. Every station, every ratings period. You have to prove yourself. You have to prove yourself. Clay had a successful show in the morning, I had a successful show in the evening and, and they combined us. Nobody just sort of said out of nowhere, hey, you haven't been doing this for over a decade and gotten proven results day in and day out. And you know, and shown what you know, we're just going to give this to you like, like Trevor Noah, the best example of this, by the way. Never heard of this guy. And they hand on the Daily Show. Now I understand with some of these people at CBS you'll say, well, they've been in this for a long time. Yes, they happen to be able to be in a place where they had a tremendous built in audience, a lot of resources and they're in a very fortunate position. But they're incredibly replaceable. And that's the part of this clay for media personalities that they don't get at all. In this current era, you're, you know, it's either the platform or the talent most of the time that is drawing, you know, drawing the eyeballs. And Scott Pelly just sounds like the most pompous douchebag on the planet, honestly. And that is, I think, the proper term for him. He is so wildly in love with the importance of the work that he's done in 60 minutes. And there's no also clay accountability for these clowns. The so called elite journalist types from 60 Minutes is probably the best example of this. But other places too, they destroyed the public's faith in what they do. No one believes them anymore. No one thinks they're unbiased anymore. And he went in there and basically told his boss, screw you, I don't have to listen to you. Well, guess what? When you do that, you get fired.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, it's, I saw the reporting around this for people who don't know. They hired a new product producer basically to run the show. They had their first meeting and this guy showed up and denigrated and insulted his boss in front of the whole group for the first meeting. The boss had previously reached out to everybody individually and said, hey, can we meet? Can we talk about how to make the show better? After that event, he then reached out again and said, hey, can we start back over? Can we go have a meeting? And he's refusing to do it. I, I just, they're gonna try to turn this guy into a free speech warrior because that's what they do. But for all of you out there that are employed, if you showed up at an all hands meeting after refusing to meet with your new boss, you insulted him in front of everybody in the meeting and he then reached out and asked you to meet again and you refused to do so. What do you expect is gonna happen now, Pelly? I think Buck in this situation wanted to get fired. But I think what, what you're laying out is really significant here. Pelly comes from a world where you get a job and that job makes you a star. And there used to be a lot of jobs like that in media. Hey, I'm gonna put you on the nightly news. And the reality is any warm body, they could have put 20 people in that chair and they would have done fine. The Internet, really, which is where I came from. Where you came from is a really knockdown, drag out meritocracy, where you have to Grind to develop any kind of audience and the top down world of hey, I'm going to give you an anchor chair and pay you millions of dollars a year to do how many stories a year to Scott Pelly do? Probably five or six. I mean it's one of the cushiest jobs on the planet and these guys all act like they are heroes. He said he was in combat.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that was the next thing.

[Clay Travis]

Trying to defend himself. Buck in Afghanistan, in Iraq. He's a friggin guy with a camera.

[Buck Sexton]

He observed people in combat and not really in the actual dangerous of a, you know, probably course of their combat. A lot of the time these guys, which I saw them because I was there too by the way, I observed combat. I had to carry a gun and was technically a combatant, but I did not get in combat myself. That is a, A different. I wasn't a helicopter where they started shooting at people, but I wasn't shooting. So I was observing. Point being, this guy is a loon in terms of his love of self. I mean his narcissism is pathological. And I just think it's also the last gasp of this overpaid, sorry, boomers, boomer generation of TV news star. In an era where now everyone. The expectation is whether you like someone's content or not. You know, Clay, we got used to doing this business. You sit at a microphone and go, yeah, was no video when I started. No video when you started. And you know, that's now a piece of it too. So maybe it's. You sit at a, at a webcam and a microphone and you go and can you be worth people's time? A lot of these. Dan. I worked for Dan Rather as an intern, but I worked for Dan Rather for six months. Let me tell you, he is a. He is a stupid blowhard and not, not a guy that you would want to spend any time with or around. That's reality. These guys were getting paid millions and millions of dollars and they really deluded themselves into thinking that that wasn't based on their relationships with the TV execs at these corporate media outlets who liked them and just sort of kept writing the checks for them. But it was because they were so important and irreplaceable. Look at the, you know, where did Brian. Where's the huge Brian Williams project since he got booted from NBC?

[Clay Travis]

I know, I think about Don Lemon is just kind of floundering around. He got charged with crimes. Here's a funny example of this. I don't. Brandi Cruise And I might be mispronouncing her last name. Posted. This is similar to what you were just talking about with Dan Rather. Buck. I was an intern at CBS News when Pelly would feel fill in for Katie Couric on the evening news. I watched in the control room one day as he directed them to slowly push the shot in on him as he took his glasses off. It was so fake. I've remembered it for 15 years. I, I was kind of laughing about this because you think like, the news guy is like such a big deal. Look, I'm getting serious now. Let me take my glasses off.

[Buck Sexton]

They're basically anchors. I mean, sorry, actors. Rather, anchors are essentially, especially in this kind of a role.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, are actors.

[Buck Sexton]

And also, I might add, in this era of media to the era that you and I grew up in, you had other jobs. I had other jobs before doing this too. A lot of these guys have never known anything other than the, the warm embrace of the lib corporate news media apparatus that they've been able to, you know, become very financially successful and become very famous in. But I'll tell you this too. When I worked at CBS Evening News, the people in there were horrible. Yeah, I actually was. It's. People ask me, they're like, well, you work there and then you went into like Middle Eastern studies and did the CIA thing. Yeah, because the people that I came across at CBS Evening News, for the most part, there were young staffers there who were really like, they were nice people and they were trying to start their careers. But the more senior people in the overall. And Dan Rather and the overall ethos of that place took itself way too seriously. People were nasty to each other. People were jerks in the control room, jerks outside of the control room. And that was the, that CBS Evening News, everybody. So I had some real personal experience of this. And I have. I came out of. Dan Rather, I think, was making $7 million a year in 2000 when I was working there. I just knew that because I was there and people talk about it, which would be like making $15 million a year now.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And, and I just remember being like, you could replace him with 50 people tomorrow and nobody would even notice, and he's a jerk. And then the National Guard document story happened.

[Clay Travis]

Whoops. Well, I mean, I think that's the lesson of 60 Minutes is what they're trying to do is recognize that they're not going to forever have the great time slot right after the NFL. If you put 60 Minutes at 8pm at night nobody would watch it. And again, the benefit of getting that job and also having the opportunity to talk in that situation and being totally without knowledge for how replaceable you are is absolute perfection here to me.

[Buck Sexton]

Wasn't it 60 Minutes? Was it, Was it Leslie Stahl who did the whole thing with Trump where she's like, yeah, we can't, we can't

[Clay Travis]

say that they spied on you. They claimed that the, that the overall Hunter Biden laptop was impossible to verify and it was all made up. And he said, no, I mean, it's, he's right. It's all there. It's all 100% accurate.

[Buck Sexton]

Just a propaganda outfit. By the way, God bless Bari Weiss. Good luck to you. Clean it up. She's gonna try to make it worth watching. She's gonna try to make it a place where they do interesting stories that people who wanna know stuff about what's happening can go instead of smug lib propaganda for boomers who have been watching these clowns and have no interest in actually figuring out what's really going on in politics in the world and anything, you know, Bunch of libs. Anyway, I'm gonna let you in on something. When you sign your business insurance policy for some brokers, that's the finish line. Handshake commission done. Then you may not hear from them again until, guess what? Renewal time. But your business runs all year, and so do the gaps and the risk. That's why we're introducing Super Sure. If your company has more than 25 employees, whether you're the owner, CFO or HR manager, it can be too complex to just buy a policy online. Super sure is the Super Agency built for you, licensed in every state for your business, insurance and employee benefits all year round. Support for you and your team. @super sure.com Buck, you can access tools like Fine Print Facts, which translates your current policy into plain English, so you can see what's covered and what's not. Plus a business value calculator so you can estimate what your business is worth so you know what actually needs protecting. Go to supershore.com buck one super agency, one powerful platform. All your policies in one place. Supershore.com b u c k. Level up

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How was the book party? How'd the book party go?

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