← The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Loading summary
Transcript105 lines
- [00:00]
Ad Read Host
This is an iHeart podcast.
- [00:02]
Public Sponsor Announcer
Guaranteed Human support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public
- [00:52]
Public Sponsor Legal Disclaimer
Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice.
- [01:02]
Public Sponsor Announcer
Complete disclosures available@public.com
- [01:06]
IFLAG Sponsor Announcer
Flag football is exploding and IFLAG is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder. Iflag hosts premier flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game. Ready to be part of it? Join the movement, find your tournament and learn more@iflag.org that's iflag.org tired of spills
- [01:36]
Ad Read Host
and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with anibay. Anibe is the only designer sofa that's machine washable inside and out. Starting at just $699 plus Anibe sofas are pet friendly, stain resistant and feature changeable slipcovers and modular pieces. Get up to 60% off site wide with a 30 day money back guarantee. Visit washablesofas.com to get yours. Now that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [02:06]
Clay Travis
Welcome in Thursday Edition March Madness edition of Clay and Buck. I just tweeted out my bracket as the show began. Buck in 10 minutes the world's greatest tip off begins for the world's Greatest Basketball Tournament. The NCAA Tournament is underway. Have you done your bracket yet? Have you filled one out?
- [02:32]
Buck Sexton
I will do it in the break. That's the that's how on the ball I am. I don't even need to think about it, Clay. I just pick.
- [02:39]
Clay Travis
I.
- [02:39]
Buck Sexton
It flows. The picks flow from my fingertips and turn into bracket gold. There you go.
- [02:48]
Clay Travis
I was wondering how you were going to land that ship and you did a good job of it. My picks are up. I just tweeted them out 30 seconds ago. And the games are officially underway in about 10 minutes. So this will be a fun show as it often is, but we got a lot of serious things to talk about with all of you. And Pete Hegseth had another early press conference about the situation unfolding in Iran and I'm sure we're going to play some of those cuts for you, but President Trump is meeting the new leader of Japan in the Oval Office as we speak and he just made news as Trump typically does. Buck, one of my favorite things that Trump does is, is say he's not going to answer a question and then answer the question while, while saying he's not going to answer the question. So he was specifically asked, this is something that a lot of you have been concerned about. He was specifically asked, are you going to put so called boots on the ground in Iran? He's typically said, hey, I'm not going to answer that. And to his credit, strategically, it would be not smart to say potentially if he's going to do one thing or another, leave all options open. It's harder to prepare for something if you don't know what's coming. But he said he's not going to answer. And then he answered, here is cut 31. This just happened in the Oval Office moments ago. Potentially put US troops or more troops in the region.
- [04:14]
Donald Trump (clips)
No, I'm not putting troops anywhere. If I, if I were, I certainly wouldn't tell you, but I'm not putting troops and we will do whatever is necessary to keep the price. I actually thought when I did this, look, the dow just hit 50,000 a couple of weeks ago. They said that couldn't happen for four years. It wouldn't happen in my term. It's such an outrageous thing because I said it would happen. I didn't know it was going to happen that fast, but just hit 50,000.
- [04:46]
Clay Travis
So Trump kind of dancing around there, but asked if he's going to put poots on the ground. The only place I think he would have gone, and we've said this for days and days now, is potentially Carg island, which is the main central location of where Iranian oil is shipped produced. We have video of Trump from back in the 1980s that we've played talking about, hey, if you're going to hit Iran, that's the place where you hit Iran. But it seems like Buck there is Trump had a strongly worded statement that he put out last night and continues to move towards things being done. I think you said you expected by April 1st for this thing to be over. I think that's a good number. I would go by April 15th if we want to go on the long end, which would mean another three and a half or so weeks. But it does feel to me like this operation is winding down primarily because Iran has very few ballistic missiles left and increasingly few drones. If you look at the overall trajectory of Iran's ability to fire back kind of haphazardly in every direction, they don't have that opportunity anymore to a large extent. And as that opportunity has continued to be degraded, we are now sitting in a situation where it's basically, hey, who do we want to take out? And what is a resolution here? Is that your take as President Trump again will continue to update, continues to answer questions?
- [06:12]
Buck Sexton
Well, sure, but I think, I think that something else that came out last night, a reminder that this is high stakes stuff and things can go south on us pretty quick. The President truthed out the following. Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle east, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Parr's Gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the hole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar. Qatar was in no way, shape or form involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's liquid natural gas facility. No more attacks will be made by Israel. All caps pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case, Qatar, in which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars Gas field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long term implications that will have on the future of Iran. But if Qatar's liquid natural gas is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention. This matter. President Donald J. Trump. Glenn, I Just want to read that whole thing because, wow, that's, that's, there's
- [07:52]
Clay Travis
a lot going on, a lot of different plot twists in that statement. When I read it last night, I was like, oh, wow. So there's, it's almost like you need us, you know, to break down all the different categories. The first, and obviously the one that jumped out the most to me was this attack that Israel levied was not one that Trump knew was coming. But I actually thought it was quite diplomatic as he moved on to say, hey, if you do anything to Qatar, then we are going to rain down holy hell on you. There are some reports that Iran seems to be stepping back from doing anything, which obviously would suggest we are moving towards a situation where maybe calming down is more likely to occur. Oil and gas prices, Buck, I thought you said this yesterday. This is of all the times that you could be the oil and gas guy. It spikes on every little news story. It comes back down on every little news story. There's a bunch of different oil markets. There now is a huge divergence between the oil markets that are based in the Middle east, largely that type of oil and gas and crude oil, which is the typical US Oil and gas, as I have it open on my screen in front of me right now, $97 a barrel. Crude oil, the US focused crude oil went to 120 about a week ago and it continues to spike, or not spike entirely based on news stories right now. So you'll hear, hey, there's something new in the Strait of Hormuz or a new missile has landed and they will move in one direction or another rapidly even as we are talking to all of you. Crude oil right now in is $97 a half a barrel again down from 120 where it went a couple of weeks ago and sitting at right at 9750 as I'm talking to all of you, moving on the news, basically that's coming out of the Oval Office. Every sentence almost, it feels like right
- [09:51]
Buck Sexton
now, look, I'm wondering what exactly is going to come out of all of this because increasingly I think it's clear what we've been saying. There's not going to be regime change here. So you've killed the leadership off, but the security forces and the government structure below that leadership level seems like they're staying in place. You've destroyed all their military infrastructure. But that doesn't seem to change. For example, the Basiji militia, the Basij being able to terrify people into staying in their homes. And I just sit Here and think this was what is. Is it clear why we're. What we're trying to get out of this and why we got into this? I'm not sure it is.
- [10:48]
Clay Travis
Well, I think.
- [10:48]
Buck Sexton
I think this is a. This is a fair question to ask the. What we're trying. What got us into this is Iran was going to go nuclear, which we've been told for 20 years at different levels was like months away. Weeks away. Months away. Weeks away. Okay. All right. I mean, we don't have access to that information. Only the top of the national security apparatus does, which should make people a little bit uncomfortable, right? I mean, we're trying to. I lived through the whole WMD thing, as did all of you. We're trusting the people in charge now. I voted for Trump three times. I trust President Trump on, on matters of national security as a general rule. But there is just a trust factor there. What is the outcome here that's going to be worth the hundreds of billions of dollars that this campaign will have ended up costing?
- [11:37]
Clay Travis
I think the challenge is, and you would know this better than anybody, having worked as a CIA analyst, predicting what was going to happen on the ground and what is happening and what's likely to happen is really, really difficult inside of Iran because the president's first statement that he made when we decapitated the government and took out the Ayatollah was, now is the time for all of you to rise up. You may not have another chance for decades or generations to take back your government. That seemed like the goal was regime change, but it now seems like, given that there doesn't appear to have been that rising tide inside of Iran. I mean, I think it's fair to say, Buck, there were tens of thousands of people in the streets protesting the government when the Ayatollah was still alive. Now he's dead, and the tens of thousands of people in the streets don't seem to be happening now.
- [12:32]
Buck Sexton
Well, a lot of them. A lot of them are dead, but,
- [12:34]
Clay Travis
yeah, well, yeah, he killed 30,000 people. Australia has an incredible new. Great newspaper in Australia, has an incredible front page. So, yes, a lot of the resistance they killed, but I think maybe there was an expectation of more of an uprising. And as you were talking, I just sent it in. We'll play it. Bessant is in the Oval Office, and he just said they still expect for there to be an uprising inside of Iran. So I think part of the argument has been it's shifting in its goals because on the one hand, the mow, the Grass strategy of, hey, we're just going to wipe out Iran's ability to have strong weaponry and any impact in the Middle east, that's to me the, the low end and I think likely to have occurred, the high end is we're going to replace this government with one that actually is a decent one. That seems unlikely. And it feels to me like we're going to be somewhere in kind of the squishy middle where what exactly Iran is going to look like when we stop dropping bombs is hard to forecast. Here's the other thing. Why can Israel not continue to drop bombs? So if the US Decides at some point in time, hey, we've done everything we think we need to do. I'm not sure the joint response. We've got an audio clip from Trump about this and the truth social post that you read is indicative of this as well. Couldn't there be at some point a divergence in the union where the US Says, hey, we think we've done enough, and Iran says, hey, you know, we haven't. Like we saw in Gaza when Iran kept going, I mean, sorry, Israel kept going because they're trying to eliminate the threat once and for all. And the threat, to be fair to Israel is more substantial than the threat is to the United States.
- [14:13]
Buck Sexton
I think the Israelis have made it clear to Iranian hardliners if you do anything that negatively affects the national security or the people of Israel will blow you up in a tent in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, like, we'll get you. Yeah, I mean, that has been made clear. What does that mean for the future of a country of 90 million people? I mean, I got to tell you, as this thing is going on here, we are using a tremendous amount of munitions, which are very expensive, I might add, in all of this to blow up a lot of kind of second and third tier military equipment. Just calling it like it is. So how long do we continue to do this for? I mean, this is going to end up being a, an expensive, an expensive side quest of sorts. From what I think a lot of people are still wondering, hey, we've got a, we've got domestic issues here. That's really what we want to see. The focus on. Trump is aware of that. Look, he just said it's going to be over pretty soon. This is cut 33. Play this one.
- [15:29]
Donald Trump (clips)
Oil prices will go up, the economy will go down a little bit. I thought it would be worse. Much worse, actually. I thought there was a chance it could be much worse. It's not bad. And it's going to be over with pretty soon. We've obliterated the Navy. We've obliterated there just about everything there is to obliterate, including leadership. The Navy's gone. Their Air Force is gone. Their antiaircraft equipment is gone. We're flying wherever we want. Pete. We have no, nobody even shooting at us. They have, I mean, and as you know, their leadership is gone. Their leaders are gone. They pick new leaders, they're gone. They pick new leaders, they're gone. And now they're looking for new leaders again. We can take out the island anytime we want.
- [16:12]
Clay Travis
So he's talking about Carg island there. We'll go to Breakbuck. There's a bunch more clips coming out, including one all timer from President Trump on Pearl harbor as he sits alongside the leader of Japan that I think you guys are going to enjoy. We'll hit a bunch of these cuts again. This is happening in real time. So we're trying to keep our, our audio coming for all of you as the news continues to come as President Trump is in the Oval Office right now taking questions from media. But I positive, much less serious. March Madness just tipped off. If you love March Madness as much as I do, if you love college basketball as much as I do, you need to go to prize picks right now. Prizepix.com code clay you can pick more or less on a bevy of athletes out there. College basketball, Major League baseball coming soon, NBA, NHL, all of it. And you can play along with us. PricePix.com Code Clay for $50. When you play $5, you can play in all 50 states. That's prizepix.com Code Clay prizepix.com Code clay. Let the March Madness Fund roll with $50 in your account when you play. Five dollars, that's pricepix.com Code C L A Y.
- [17:21]
Team 47 Podcast Promo Announcer
Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [17:36]
Meaningful Beauty Sponsor Announcer
Now I'd like to introduce you to Meaningful Beauty, the famed skincare brand created by iconic supermodel Cindy Crawford. It's her secret to absolutely gorgeous skin. Meaningful beauty makes powerful and effective skincare simple. And it's loved by millions of women. It's formulated for all ages and all skin tones and types. And it's designed to work as a complete skin care system, leaving your skin flat, feeling soft, smooth and nourished. I recommend starting with Cindy's full regimen which contains all five of her best selling products including the Amazing Youth Activating Melon Serum. This next generation serum has the power of melon Leaf stem cell technology. It's melon leaf stem cells encapsulated for freshness and released onto the skin to support a visible reduction in the appearance of wrinkles. With thousands of glowing five star reviews, why not give it a try? Subscribe today and you can get the Amazing Meaningful Beauty system for just $49.95. That includes our introductory five piece system, free gifts, free shipping and a 60 day money back guarantee. All of that available@meaningful beauty.com support for
- [18:38]
Public Sponsor Announcer
the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public
- [19:24]
Public Sponsor Legal Disclaimer
Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice.
- [19:34]
Public Sponsor Announcer
Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures Flag Football
- [19:39]
IFLAG Sponsor Announcer
is exploding and IFLAG is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder. Iflag hosts premier Flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game. Ready to be part of it? Join the movement, find your tournament and learn more@iflag.org that's iflag.org life's nonstop work,
- [20:10]
True Nature Meats Sponsor Announcer
family workouts, True nature meets New York Strip steak, richly seasoned pre cooked perfection that melts in your mouth. 30 years supplying the finest steakhouses heat in 4 minutes. No stress, just nourishing joy. Head to TrueNatureMeats.com code free meat for 20% off plus free New York strip Texas smoked brisket and Mediterranean chicken with code free meat@trunaturemeats.com sink into affordable luxury.
- [20:41]
Ad Read Host
Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out with stain resistant slipcovers and a cloud like frame duvet. Everything goes right in the wash. Plus the modular design lets you change the look of your space anytime. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your home shop up to 60% off site wide with sofas starting at just $699 and a 30 day money back guarantee. Shop now@washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [21:09]
Buck Sexton
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. And Clay mentioned this Pete Hegset, Secretary of War I think I've already told you this. If a Democrat wins in 28, this will be the least of our problems. 100% chance they're going to change the name back to Department of Defense. Just so you know, just so this is going to be I'm telling you,
- [21:28]
Clay Travis
Buck, I think it's going to go Department of Peace. I think they're going to skip Defense and they're going to go full opposite direction.
- [21:34]
Buck Sexton
This is if you are correct, mark this one down for a Clay. This is calling it in the upper deck deep into center field. That would be right.
- [21:45]
Clay Travis
Yes, yes.
- [21:46]
Buck Sexton
This, this would be quite a call to make if they could full Department of Peace. That would be wild. But I guarantee you they're at least going back to DOD anyway. Not a big deal. But I just think it's kind of funny that this is now the reality of. Oh by the way, they might change some of the base names back. Although what they did with Fort Bragg was very smart. They named it for a more recent American military hero named Bragg and not for the, you know, guy from the Civil War.
- [22:12]
Clay Travis
So okay, General by the way, Braxton
- [22:14]
Buck Sexton
brag bad and apparently a terrible guy, right? Like beat his own troops like really into corporate discipline. Like yeah, yeah. Mean. A mean fellow. Pete Hegseth talking about Iran as a direct threat. Play cut one.
- [22:28]
Pete Hegseth
Iran has terrorized the United States and our interests for 47 years. Their core industries not not steel or agriculture, tourism. Their core industries are state sponsored terrorism, proxy militias, underground networks, ballistic missiles and a violent messianic Islamist ideology chasing some sort of apocalyptic endgame. A regime like that refusing to abandon its nuclear ambitions is not just a regional problem. It's a direct threat to America, to freedom and to civilization, the world, the Middle east, our ungrateful allies in Europe Even segments of our own press should be saying one thing to President Trump. Thank you. Thank you for the courage to stop this terror state from holding the world hostage.
- [23:16]
Buck Sexton
That's the, that's the pitch. Is the pitch landing with the MAGA base right now? What is the polling really on this action? It seems like Clay. Everything I've seen suggests totally a question of how quick it gets done and how little blowback there is.
- [23:33]
Clay Travis
So it's a result today, Buck, as we're going to break. 84% on Trump's side, 6% on the Tucker Carlson side. That poll just came out.
- [23:43]
Buck Sexton
Wow, look at that. All right, everyone benefits from having more energy in their day to day. And I know about this because I've really been on a health journey and chaos. Chalk has been right there with me. Supplements, super important, yes. Diet, exercise, all kinds of things go into this to feel good every day. Getting good sleep, by the way. But proper supplementation helps with all of these things. This is where chalk comes in. Let me tell you the Chad mode pre workout formula. I just got two of them sent to my house because I love Chad mode. If I got stuff to do, whether it's physical or even mental writing, getting things done, Chad mode helps me so much. And Chalk's male vitality stack, by the way, is great for boosting testosterone for the guys out there. Go check out the supplements they've got. Go to chalk.com today and subscribe for their spring special. Go to choq.com you get a cool bonus gift. Chalk choq.com code buck.
- [24:34]
Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay. Travis, Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. And again, Oval Office with the leader of Japan. Lots of different news coming fast and furious. We want to continue to update you with everything that President Trump was saying. Some serious, some funny, as is often the case with President Trump. And let me see here, the absolute latest. We were discussing the Truth Social post last night and Trump was asked about his disagreement on the decision Israel made to target part of Iran's oil and natural gas infrastructure. Trump said he didn't know about it. And this is cut 34. Trump says he told Netanyahu to stop the strikes on Iran's energy fields,
- [25:28]
Donald Trump (clips)
about
- [25:28]
Buck Sexton
attacking the oil and gas fields.
- [25:29]
Donald Trump (clips)
Yeah, I did, I did. I told him, don't do that. And he won't do that. We didn't discuss, you know, we do, we're very, we're independent, we get along great. It's coordinated. But on occasion he'll do something. And if I Don't like it. And so we're not doing that anymore.
- [25:47]
Clay Travis
Question for you, Buck. Could this be intentional where Trump gets to play the good guy to Qatar and Israel gets to be the bad guy? And Trump says, boy, I didn't know we were going to do this. And it's all kind of coordinated, but it allows him to look like the middle agent trying to bring, you know, stability? Or do you think Netanyahu just truly went rogue and did this and the American administration didn't know about it?
- [26:16]
Buck Sexton
I, look, this is just my gut instinct. I think that Trump doesn't want the messing with the liquid natural gas production for the whole world. This is, this is real stuff. If you were to eliminate. Let's just say, let's just put this out there. Let's say Iran had the capability to destroy the Qatari liquefied natural gas field. We're talking about the pars field. It's a huge percentage of, like, a shockingly large percentage of global production and global reserves in those fields. And we can pull up the stats for you in a second. I don't know off the top of my head, I just know it's really big. I think it's the biggest liquefied natural gas facility in the world. So that gives you some sense of it. You want to really mess up the global economy in the blink of an eye. Take off line now. This is only one part of the facility. It's going to be. I'm not a catastrophe. There's going to. I think it's all going to be okay. It's fine. But I think Trump's like, hey, guys, knock it off. I think legitimately this was. Look, this is where you have to have the talk about this, too. I mean, Iran is a bigger threat to Israel than it is to us.
- [27:29]
Clay Travis
Yes.
- [27:30]
Buck Sexton
That's just a fact. We all know this. They have different. Now, you can be allies with people in something as we are and not have the exact same. We do not. There is no such thing as a crisis.
- [27:40]
Clay Travis
That's why I was saying the same
- [27:41]
Buck Sexton
national security interests if, if the United
- [27:44]
Clay Travis
States decides to stop bombing before Iran does. In fact, I might put the probability as high that that could occur before Israel does.
- [27:53]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, the Israelis have been taking out or, or have they. But I mean, nuclear scientists have been, you know, getting blown up for a long time. And a lot of people think that, you know, we think we know who it is. I mean.
- [28:07]
IFLAG Sponsor Announcer
Right.
- [28:07]
Buck Sexton
Neither confirm nor deny. But I mean, you look at all the reporting on this stuff going back For a very long time. I mean, Israel has been waging a covert war against the Iranian nuclear program for. For many, many years. Much more so than. Well, at least than Americans are aware of that. Their own government. And again, what are we doing? What are the Israelis doing? You know, who knows? But point here is, Clay. Yeah. I think Israel sees this as an opportunity to just really, really hit him where it hurts in Iran, more so even than Trump is willing to do, because Iran is. Iran can't hit us with ballistic missiles. Iran can hit Israel. Ballistic missiles, obviously, and drones and a whole bunch of things. So this is just straightforward. And anybody who has any kind of. Oh, what are you saying? No, of course, we're different countries, different population size, different geography, different distance to the enemy here, which is Iran, they're going to have a different set of national security interests than we are. There will be some areas where it coincides. There are some areas where it doesn't. And I think this is where we saw Trump having to basically tell them, you guys, if we're doing this thing together here, you got to cool it a little bit on that. You can't be. You can't be putting global liquefied natural gas production at risk with any actions that you're taking. Because also, if you took this offline, I think it cost 70 billion or no, $100 billion or $70 billion to build this facility. Some crazy number. And if you. If you obliterated the whole thing, it would take years, years and years to rebuild this.
- [29:40]
Clay Travis
I wonder also whether this is Netanyahu in Israel knowing that the Americans might be opposed to it and doing it anyway, with getting whatever you wanted to do done without having to clear it beforehand and create it. And then you're like, oh, sorry, we thought you were okay with this. Here is. You asked the question, Buck, about ultimate goals.
- [30:01]
Buck Sexton
And again, by the way, Clay, am I. Wait, can I ask a question? Sorry, I'm just.
- [30:05]
Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah.
- [30:05]
Buck Sexton
World War II, wasn't there a dispute between America and Britain over daylight bombing? Didn't we have over the bombing raids
- [30:13]
Clay Travis
I'm reading right now? I mean, there were the idea that the US And. And England, in retrospect, everybody. Buck says, oh, what a great partnership. They fought all the time. They disagreed on stuff all the time.
- [30:27]
Donald Trump (clips)
The.
- [30:28]
Clay Travis
The decision of when to go into Europe was a huge battle. And you're talking about one of the disagreements.
- [30:34]
Buck Sexton
I'm totally right, by the way.
- [30:35]
Clay Travis
Woohoo.
- [30:37]
Buck Sexton
Britain and the US strongly disagreed over daylight bombing in World War II. The Royal Air Force because they had just, you know, gotten hit real bad, lost a lot of people. They're like, look, we're going at night. We're going at night because. And the Americans were like, well, we want to actually go in the day so we can see what we're hitting. Because this is a lot of it. Even with the Norden bomb site or whatever. This is like line of sight stuff. Really, you're talking about. The Brits were just like, nah, we're dropping those bombs at night. That's how we're going to do it. So my point here is there are. This is not a new thing. This is not a. Oh, my gosh.
- [31:11]
Clay Travis
I mean, I was. Allies are going to disagree on historical reading because the idea is that the US And Britain were in lockstep agreement and in the way that it gets covered because we won World War II. That's the perspective on it. But actually, there was a great deal of behind the scenes disagreement. So to your point, the US And Israel having somewhat divergent perspectives is not crazy.
- [31:32]
Buck Sexton
And the British were okay with higher civilian casualties, I might add as well.
- [31:35]
Clay Travis
Well, because they went through all of the attacks. I mean, if you go back and read, it's a great book on when, when England was getting bombed, when it looked like Hitler was going to invade England before he decided to pivot in one of the great strategic miscalculations of all time and go after Russia. The expectation was during the bombing of Britain. I think they thought this goes into the bombing campaigns, that they could get England to relent entirely based on the bombing campaign, that, that Britain would just wave the white flag basically, and they would never have to come across the English Channel and invade. But it doesn't surprise me that England, after going through that, was like, we're not worried about civilians because they got a lot of their civilians killed.
- [32:18]
Buck Sexton
Well, look at the analogy here to Israel. After all the years of Iran backing and training, Hamas backing and training, Hezbollah directing attacks on Jews all over the world, it would make perfect sense to me that Israel is more willing to tolerate more damage in. Now, they have been very precise in their strikes. I'm not saying they're going out of their way to hit civilian targets. I am saying infrastructure targets they may be a little more accepting of. And that's certainly what Donald Trump is. I'm just repeating essentially.
- [32:49]
Clay Travis
I mean, Iran is not targeting directly attacks on anybody. They're just kind of haphazardly flying, firing in whatever direct can. So if I'm Israel, frankly, if I'm Qatar the uae, any of these countries. My concern about civilian casualties is lower after seeing what Iran's been willing to do with us. Now Buck I wanted to play this Scott Bessant also in the Oval Office. I believe this is where that that came from. Team Correct me if I'm wrong, if this was a interview happening at the same time in a different spot. But I think Scott Bessant also in the Oval Office, he said kind of echoed the initial statement that Trump made, which is we're seeing mass defections and at some point he thinks the regime is going to collapse inside of Iran. This is a little bit of a different take, more aggressive, more akin to what Trump said immediately after the first strike that took out the Ayatollah.
- [33:43]
Scott Bessant
Cut 35 we are seeing the defections at all levels as they're starting to sense what's going on with the regime.
- [33:53]
Clay Travis
Did that just cut we are seeing
- [33:56]
Scott Bessant
the defections at all levels as they're started starting to sense what's going on with the regime. It doesn't get reported here in the US Very well but we are trouncing them from the air and the regime will probably collapse within itself. At treasury we've seen where they wire their money out of the country. We're coming for that. We're going to get it back to the Iranian people.
- [34:18]
Donald Trump (clips)
Defections. Israel, there's a lot of military defections also. You have a lot of military defections in Iran. I don't, hey, I don't blame them.
- [34:29]
Clay Travis
So that is a little bit different perspective. That's more akin to what was initially said Buck, which is that there is some sign potentially or maybe they're trying to create it by talking about it that some of these but entrenched interests in the Iranian government are actually buckling.
- [34:48]
Buck Sexton
This would be if they pull off what Trump and Bessen are talking about here, which is, which is regime change without invasion, just regime. We're effectively we are, we are acting like the air force, the preemptive air force of an Iranian resistance movement. That's really how this lines up. If they pull this off and that's how this actually goes down, this will be the most incredible foreign policy military maneuver since D day, honestly. I mean this, this is a, a incredible generation defining success. So the fact that they're still talking about this and hopeful that can happen just gives you a sense of possibility but real tough stuff they're trying to pull out.
- [35:38]
Clay Travis
Here's what I would also say Buck.
- [35:40]
Buck Sexton
It is they're going for the home run. They're just going for the home run here.
- [35:43]
Clay Travis
I think it's also just a sign of the tech.
- [35:46]
Buck Sexton
Right.
- [35:46]
Clay Travis
Yesterday we told you about the guy who thought he was safe. One of their top Iranian generals living in a tent, in a, in a, you know, like literally not able, theoretically. He went totally offline and they sent in a drone and wiped him out. The tech is better now than it ever has been before, by the way. I actually think the drone tech is going to get scary. Nobody, everybody talks about nuclear weapons. Think about when individuals get access to bombing with drones and the dangers that that can create inside of every country.
- [36:17]
Buck Sexton
One thing that I just, militarily, I think is interesting, the fact that they've gone so hard so fast at Iran. Something in the background that I'm sure has affected these calculations and the reason why Secretary of War and the Trump administration and the President himself as Commander in Chief have been, let's go, go, go. And just a tremendous amount of ordinance has been dropped on, on Iran. Clay. We already know. I mean, there's open reporting about it now, but it was obviously going to happen. The Russians are giving real time intelligence to the Iranians now. They're sending them their most advanced, their best, or, you know, some of their more advanced, I should say, drone technology. And Russians have gotten really good at this because of war. They're sending them stuff, they're sending them gear, they're giving them intel. They want to try to mess us up in Iran because, of course, they're, from the Russian perspective, understandably, very bitter. Putin's very bitter about our backing of the Ukrainian resistance. So what I'm saying is taking out as much of their military infrastructure as possible as quickly as possible really makes a difference because the Russians were going to try to create a quagmire, even just for our air force there, give them better surface to air missiles, give them better target, give them whatever they can.
- [37:35]
Clay Travis
Yeah, and by the way, we're doing all of that to Russia in Ukraine, as you were like. So for everybody out there, we can't even out there.
- [37:41]
Buck Sexton
What are we going to do? Send them a strongly worded letter?
- [37:43]
Clay Travis
You know, we're trying to kill as many Russians as we can by assisting Ukraine, too. Let's see. I want to tell you guys all about chalk. If you need more energy, you need more vitality, if you need more vigor in your life, if you're sitting around, you're like, boy, March Madness gonna be up a little bit late, Clay. I got late games on Thursday, late games on Friday. Maybe you're chasing the kids and the grandkids around. If you need a little bit more vitality in your life, a little bit more testosterone 20% all natural increase if you go to chalk.com use my name clay that C H O Q My name C L A Y Get hooked up now and put yourself on the path to having way more testosterone. 20 in three months time. All natural. What do you have to lose? Try it out. You get the best discount on subscription for Life Plus $99 chalk lit powder included as well. When you go subscribe check it out today. CHOQ is the website that's chalk but it's spelled C H o Q My name Clay. For the best discount on subscription for life. You can cancel anytime. Our buddy Seton at Chalk. He runs a great company and he can put some more energy back in your life with more testosterone. Don't feel like a wimpy Democrat, feel like an actual man@chalk.com code clay sometimes
- [39:04]
Team 47 Podcast Promo Announcer
all you can do is laugh and they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang. Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [39:17]
Meaningful Beauty Sponsor Announcer
Now I'd like to introduce you to Meaningful Beauty, the famed skincare brand created by iconic supermodel model Cindy Crawford. It's her secret to absolutely gorgeous skin. Meaningful Beauty makes powerful and effective skin care simple and it's loved by millions of women. It's formulated for all ages and all skin tones and types and it's designed to work as a complete skin care system leaving your skin feeling soft, smooth and nourished. I recommend starting with Cindy's full regimen which contains all five of her best selling products including the Amazing Youth Activating Melon Serum. This next generation serum has the power of Melon Leaf Stem cell technology. It's melon leaf stem cells encapsulated for freshness and released onto the skin to support a visible reduction in the appearance of wrinkles. With thousands of glowing five star reviews, why not give it a try? Subscribe today and you can get the Amazing Meaningful Beauty system for just $49.95. That includes our introductory five piece system, free gifts, free shipping and a 60 day money back guarantee. All of that available@meaningful beauty.com support for
- [40:19]
Public Sponsor Announcer
the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public
- [41:05]
Public Sponsor Legal Disclaimer
Investing Brokerage Services by opening to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice.
- [41:16]
Public Sponsor Announcer
Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures Flag Football
- [41:20]
IFLAG Sponsor Announcer
is exploding and IFLAG is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder, iflag hosts premier flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game. Ready to be part of it? Join the movement, find your tournament and learn more@iflag.org that's iflag.org craving bold, authentic
- [41:51]
True Nature Meats Alternate Announcer
taste without kitchen chaos? True nature meets Hawaiian Kahlua. Pork delivers slow roasted tenderness with smoky tropical notes. Pre cooked perfection. 30 years supplying the finest restaurants. Chances are you've already had their pork heat in 2 minutes. Shred for plates or bowls, complaints turn to second helpings and laughter. Real meat, real flavor. Go to TrueNatureMeats.com code free meat for 20% off plus free New York strip Texas Smoked Brisket and Mediterranean Chicken with Code free meat@truenaturemeats.com tired of spills and
- [42:21]
Ad Read Host
stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe. Annabe is the only designer sofa that's machine washable with inside and out starting at just $699 plus. Anabe sofas are pet friendly, stain resistant and feature changeable slipcovers and modular pieces. Get up to 60% off site wide with a 30 day money back guarantee. Visit washablesofas.com to get yours. Now that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [42:50]
Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay Unbox. Sometimes as part of this news program we get excited because we know we're going to bring you some really Fun stuff. President Trump is sitting down, has been sitting down with the leader of Japan. And we're going to hold this. He's been very Trump like that, I can tell you. He's been very, very charming, very interesting, very funny. And we'll bring you some of the best stuff. If you were to guess what kind of a joke do you think Donald Trump would make sitting down with the premier of Japan, what kind of joke would he make? You could probably guess, but. And he went there. So we're going to get into this. This is what they call a tease in the business. We will play this for you shortly, but also bring you everything that he's talking about from the Oval because he's Trump. So he's taking a whole range of questions and things. And Clay, I'm actually very, I'm happy that you played that Besant and also Trump clips where they were saying there are these defections. There is, yeah. There is hope on the ground for the resistance. I hope that's true. That would be incredible. Like I said, this would be an unbelievable military, really stroke of genius if this really brings an end to the terrorist regime of, of, of the mullahs. If it does, you know, I wouldn't bet on it right now, and I'm sure you can bet in polymarket or whatever on it, but I, I think it's a tough one. That all said, if Trump is, is confident on this one, look, Venezuela is in a much better place. Cuba may soon be in a better place. We'll see how that goes. But in the situation of Iran right now, the more reporting we get on that, the better.
- [44:37]
Clay Travis
Look, this is where the military history angle to me is really interesting to comprehend. If you go back to the Iraq war and just think about how difficult it was to catch Saddam Hussein, for instance, how much better is the tech now, such that how much of the Iraq war could have been managed without boots on the ground? If we had 20, 26 technology back in, you know, 2003, that is really, I mean, a generation difference, how much could that have changed?
- [45:09]
Buck Sexton
Well, this is like I said, having seen two different drone strikes 20 years or so apart, one in theater, one here in the States, just watching the footage, it's gone from. We blow up the whole car and everybody in it, and that's just the way it is. Do we can take out one person in one seat and the rest of the car survives?
- [45:29]
Clay Travis
Yeah.
- [45:30]
Buck Sexton
That gives you a pretty good sense of how much things have changed. And also the surveillance technology that we have now, the ability, the eyes and ears that we can get through drones through our tech on these targets. It's incredible.
- [45:43]
Clay Travis
This is where it scares me going forward because I just think that a lot of people don't realize how easy it is to remotely kill people and I think it's gonna translate into the future, the world that we're in, I'm afraid.
- [45:58]
Buck Sexton
Wasn't there like a weird Tom Selleck movie about robots that kill people back in the 80s?
- [46:04]
Clay Travis
No. I have no idea.
- [46:05]
IFLAG Sponsor Announcer
Flag Football is exploding and iflag is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder. Iflag hosts premier flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game ready to be part of it? Join the movement, find your tournament and learn more@iflag.org that's iflag.org tired of spills
- [46:36]
Ad Read Host
and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right, sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slip covers made with performance fabric. Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime. Shop washablesofas.com for up to 60% off site wide, backed by a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund. No return, shipping or restocking fees. Every penny back. Upgrade now@washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.