Buck Sexton (4:36)

Because this is like, this is like the perfect guy. Alex Pardy is the guy you would want to date your daughter, the one. The guy you want your son to grow up to be a decent human being who was serving humanity, serving sick veterans who is, you know, there is nothing that has been said about that man that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They can't malign him because we have the videos.

Clay Travis (5:04)

All right, Buck, this video came out. I know you've been reacting to it. I've been reacting to it. My hope is my mother in law staying with us because her power still out. She said nobody who needs to see this video is going to see it. So there may be wisdom from, from my mother in law there. But what were your thoughts when you saw this video of hero nurse Alex Preddy?

Buck Sexton (5:25)

Well, first off, on, on the CNN side of this, if you think that she's going to be embarrassed by the truth, you don't understand the nature of cnn. As I put on X, this is her job. Her job is to lie, to make the audience believe whatever they want to believe. So she did her job. There's no shame in lying at cnn as Long as they're pleasant lies that libs wish to hear, that is the gig. And as for watching this video, it's interesting, Clay, because we were trying to be, as we always try to be, very fair and adhere to the facts as they came out about all of this. And yet yesterday, several times, I used the word to describe this guy, that he was a loon, a lunatic. And that was quite obvious even from just the initial exchange. Now, while you have Ana Navarro and CNN saying this guy was basically some kind of saint, and you have MSNBC pretending that he's much more handsome than he was, which, by the way, shouldn't matter at all. But it matters to that audience because they're creating a narrative and they're making a fable. This is a myth. This is myth making they are engaged in. But then you turn on this program, and we're saying, well, the guy's clearly a lunatic. And then video comes out showing, yeah, he's clearly a lunatic. But we were saying that before the video came out because we actually do analysis here and use deductive reasoning and think things through and care about being right and be honest with you all the time. So it's just interesting to see how quickly this thing caved yet again. There are people especially, you know, I would say Monday, Clay, there are a lot of conservatives maybe put that in quotes, but a lot of people on the right put that in quotes. Oh, I think we need to, like, really reassess everything. No, we do not need to reassess deporting millions of illegals who don't have a right to be in the country. And we certainly don't need to reassess prioritizing the deportation of. Of true public safety threats, scary violent criminals, in many cases rapists, murderers, etcetera, who are in the country illegally and already have deportation orders and who Democrats are harboring and sheltering and obstructing law enforcement efforts to deport. You know, this is. Some people fell for this. And I sit here and I go, you know, these are like. It's the same routine from the lib media over and over again. No, now you finally. You finally have to agree with us because of how horrible this. No, no, sorry, that's not gonna work this time. Didn't work last time or the time before that. Not on this show. But I think it just goes to show you, man, they will do anything, Clay. They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal. They will use AI to give someone a square jaw and a winning smile. Whatever they have to do to get the easily fooled, the low IQ and the cowardly to go along with the abandonment of this central effort of the Trump administration. So I just, I feel very good about the analysis we did here on this, by the way. I still think he's probably going to get a huge judgment from the city because now you're going to get into. Well, that doesn't change the. Ok, but we all know what really went on here, right? You know, we all know that this guy was quite, quite truly, literally asking for it in that video. Yeah, assault me, you, you know, MF and this and cursing and everything.

Clay Travis (8:56)

Can we pull that for the team and edit the. But I do think the vile nature of his interactions with ice. This audience should hear what he was screaming on that video. Again, we've got FCC restrictions, so we'll edit out the curse words. But yes, look, and do you agree with me, by the way, that if that guy, if he had been arrested, if he had been arrested on that day, I think there's a decent chance he might well still be alive because one of the things that unfortunately happens when you allow violent crazy behavior to continue, you incentivize more violent crazy behavior. And look, this is why I said people got mad at me. Some people were like, oh, my God, how. This is why I said Tim Walls and Jacob Fry have blood on their hands. Because this guy thinks he's a hero and he is taking direction from them. And so the family, by the way, for anybody out there who is questioning, is this video real? Because it is a reality, sadly, that we're going to be in now, where every video that comes out, people are going to say it's AI if it has a story that may have evidence that they don't like. The family has acknowledged it's him. There is zero dispute that he attacked ICE agents in the time leading up Buck. I bet there's a bunch of other videos of him engaging in behavior just like this. He wanted to have a confrontation with ice. It's why he had the gun. It's why he behaved the way that he did. And, you know, frankly, I just, it's, it's a reality of where we are, that he engaged in behavior that was intended to provoke confrontation. And unfortunately for him, he got a confrontation that ended up being fatal. But this was not some accidental incident or some completely innocent bystander who found himself dragged into a violent encounter. He'd been seeking this for weeks.

Buck Sexton (10:57)

Yeah, I mean, this is the, the reality of, of the situation unfolded unfolding before us. Clay is they Try to convince everyone. This guy, as we heard that one preposterous clip on cnn. But her job, that woman, she's one of the dumbest commentators on tv and her job is to say stuff like that. So like I said, she's not embarrassed. Wouldn't change, wouldn't change a word of it. Now, it doesn't matter. This guy was supposed to be, oh, it could have been your dad. It could have been your brother or your friend or your coworker, your next door neighbor. He's. This guy's as American as apple pieces. No, he's actually a lunatic who runs at cops and spits in their faces and kicks their cars because he doesn't want the enforcement of completely legitimate laws passed by the United States Congress, enforced by people like Barack Obama, I might add, among other Democrats. We might get to some of those old Obama clips coming up. He's like, look, I know people want to be here, but you got to go, you know, so we're seeing that once again, the martyrs of the left are maniacs. And their heroes are actually often criminals, frauds, maniacs themselves. So this is something that I, I think is a, is a reminder for anybody who started to, to fall for this. Look, it doesn't mean that the shooting wasn't possibly a, an overreaction by ICE under the situation. We got to have a full investigation, we got to see all the body camera footage. But this guy was truly asking for exactly what we saw, which is multiple violent encounters with Immigration Customs Enforcement. If you play this game with cops and you get shot, you ask for the dangerous situation to happen. And that is what that is, unfortunately, how this tragedy came to an end.

Clay Travis (12:44)

And for anybody out there to build on Buck who said, oh, my goodness, we've got to consider, oh, we've got to pull out of Minneapolis. Oh, my goodness, this is unacceptable. This is, I think, a strong evidence yet again, to wait and see. Most of these people are engaging in violent behavior and trying to incite this kind of outcome, sadly, and Democrats bragged about wanting it in July. The other thing I would say about this Buck as we get ready to go to break here, is I do think this could be substantial evidence of his behavior. Now, it doesn't justify the shooting, but if they find more and more videos of him engaging in behavior and there is some sort of knowledge about this guy, which maybe there was, it wouldn't be crazy to say, hey, this guy kicked our tail lights out. These guys talk. I believe that was ice. Border Patrol was involved in the shooting There are a bunch of different agencies involved here, but this is yet again evidence that these are not heroes. These are to a large part mentally unstable wackadoodles who are trying to create violent situations for our federal law enforcement.

Buck Sexton (14:01)

And there are people, and this is, I think this is important, Clay. There are people who are making, you know, 2, 300 grand to sit around and write garbage at the Washington Post. And people making millions of dollars sitting in CNN studios and Ms. Now and ABC News in these places who know that they are preying on the deranged and know that they are going to get people like this guy so riled up that they do stupid and dangerous things and they don't care. Because if it's in any way allowing them to play out their emotional combat with Donald Trump, they're totally accepting of whatever casualties in that battle are necessary. That's the real truth. The really, the sick part of this all is that they encourage Preddy to do what he did. He died. They're using him. And they don't actually care about the next Preddy at all because if they did, they would stop saying that these are Nazis or even worse than Nazis in Minneapolis. They don't care.

Clay Travis (15:07)

Yes.

Buck Sexton (15:08)

Totally using these people. Totally using Jimmy Kimmel tears. Natalie Portman, by the way, among the most overrated in every respect on the planet. Natalie Portman. My list of the most overrated. I'm not trying to get into a whole digression. Natalie Portman. Absolutely.

Clay Travis (15:24)

Oh, I can't co sign there. I think she's actually a talented actress.

Buck Sexton (15:29)

No.

Clay Travis (15:29)

Did you see the Black Swan? She was very good in the Black Swan. That's an awful garbage, scary movie. Garbage.

Buck Sexton (15:35)

Not. She's not. Look, she's not that pretty because we're always told. And I don't even say that's mean. She's a famous like actress worth $100 million. We're always told she's the most beautiful.

Clay Travis (15:43)

Woman in the world.

Buck Sexton (15:43)

She's okay.

Clay Travis (15:44)

She's okay. Natalie Portman. I did not think you were just gonna take a two by four to Natalie Portman today.

Buck Sexton (15:50)

Just not that, just not that good. Not that cute. Not that good.

Clay Travis (15:53)

She's pretty good. Lame.

Buck Sexton (15:54)

In the Star wars movies, a lot of, you know, kind of, kind of looks like a 14 year old boy a lot of the time. I'm just saying I'm not a fan. Not a fan.

Clay Travis (16:02)

Where were we? We're. You got to read. I mean Natalie, Natalie Portman was a secret fan and she's just driving to her Set. Oh, definitely not right now. Definitely not. She's quite. She's under the radar. She loves Clay and Buck. And you just torpedoed that right off the bat here, off the top of the show. You know, her name was Natalie.

Buck Sexton (16:22)

Her name was True Story. Her name was Natalie Horschlog. That's her real name.

Clay Travis (16:27)

Yeah, I understand why she changed her name.

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Buck Sexton (18:58)

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got a pretty quick turn, so we're going to come back in a second and get deeper into the latest about this individual that we were told we all had to find as an, I guess an avatar of all that is good and decent in the world. Cared so much about illegals and just wanted it. No. It turns out he's running around and he's spitting at cops and he's causing mayhem in traffic. He should have been arrested for that and should have been prosecuted for that. And he wasn't because he's in Minneapolis and things are messy there because Democrats don't believe in the rule of law. And then he ended up getting shot again. Confronting officers and did they react too quickly or did they. Did they overreact the situation? We'll look at the body camera footage before we determine that. But this guy was not who we were told he was. I was going to say led to believe. Clay. We didn't believe it. Yeah, go check. I was like this yesterday. I think the word loon came out of my mouth a couple of times. I'm like, the guy's a loon. Which he was. Sorry he's dead. Should not have been doing what he did with the cops though. It was a very, very foolish thing to do. And that's. And that's where we are. That's where we have it right now, my friends.

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Clay Travis (21:05)

98. 98. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show President Trump having a cabinet meeting today and we've got a funny cut from President Trump about trying to keep the cabinet meeting shorter because even he got bored when it went on for so long recently. But I believe we have removed the expletives from this. But I did think it was important for you to hear what Alex Preddy was saying to the ICE agents about 11 days before he was shot. Here he is.

Buck Sexton (21:44)

Well, I would just, I mean it's, it was think of like the founding fathers and the great rhetoric of our nation. I was amazed. You know, he came forth and he said, hear ye, hear. Yeah, I speaketh on behalf of my first amendment rights of this great nation of patriots to address you with my grievances at or. Or Clay this way.

Clay Travis (22:04)

Yes. Listen. Okay, so it's a little bit hard.

Buck Sexton (22:25)

To hear give me liberty or give me death to this Patrick. It's a little bit of a. Yeah.

Clay Travis (22:30)

I would say Buck, this was devastating to the argument of Alex Peretti's overall saintly this if only for this reason. When I first shared this video, I actually went in the comments. I don't spend a lot of time in the comments necessarily unless I think you're gonna make me laugh. And a lot of times you guys do. But I went in and I was surprised by how many left wingers were in the comments immediately saying this is AI. This isn't real. Because I think they recognized. And then almost immediately, to their credit, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is basically left wing slop in Minneapolis, they came out and they said, oh, sorry, this is, this is real. And it feels like the story has to a large extent, Buck vanished. Like I'm watching my quad box here. Nobody is talking about Alex Preddy today, after that video came out, they've actually shifted to talking a lot about The FBI seizing 700 boxes in, in Atlanta.

Buck Sexton (23:40)

This is a very, very prescient moment to talk about Manufacturing Delusion, which is available for pre sale now, Clay, where there's a whole chapter on how not only is AI going to be used for disinformation purposes, etc. As it already is, but people will seize on AI to continue with their own prejudices about different situations. Meaning all you have to. It doesn't matter if it's verified or not. If someone believes, for example, that, you know, Trump used Putin to hack into voting machines in 2016, you create some video, you create some basis for this and people will believe what they want to believe. Even if it's fake and they're told it's fake, they'll say, no, I don't believe that it's fake. Right. So this is what you are seeing that with Preddy right now. That's exactly what's going on. They're going, oh, there must be AI. It's not that people, if they're told it's AI will necessarily wake up. They'll believe the AI when they want to believe the AI. That's the world that we are very quickly realizing we are in. And Clay, one other thing about this, I think just be prepared. All of a sudden you're having these people say, well, this doesn't matter at all. What he did before doesn't matter and who he was doesn't matter. And, oh, ok. So for a few days we're told, this guy, he's a nurse, he's a.

Clay Travis (25:01)

Was.

Buck Sexton (25:01)

Was he a veteran? I heard someone say that I don't.

Clay Travis (25:03)

Even know all that mattered for the PA once he was shot. All that matter, his past history in life as evidence of why he shouldn't have been.

Buck Sexton (25:12)

He, he was. We were basically getting the New York Times, having people talk about how in high school he helped an old lady across the street and gave up his seat on the bus once in 1987 or something. I mean, that's all we're being told what a great human being he is. I was just waiting for the George Floyd asked murals to start popping up in Minneapolis, of course with him with the new square jaw and the incredible good looks and everything that they had fabricated for him. But like, we're getting ready. So the fact that he was so amazing, Clay, was a huge part of the news cycle.

Clay Travis (25:44)

Yes.

Buck Sexton (25:44)

Until it becomes clear that actually people who know him said he had essentially Clay radicalized. This guy was an anti ICE jihadist, effectively. He was getting weird. His family thought he was getting weird. Something had happened to him. He. And then what kind of normal person shows up and does this at ICE officers in a protest. I'm talking about the stuff that's on the video now. Never mind the stuff that led to him getting shot, which also was bizarre. The guy's a loon and that. But now it doesn't matter that he's a loon. For days we were told he was, you know, a cross between Mother Teresa and Brad Pitt. And now it's how dare you. All that matters is whether or not he brandished his gun in the moment he was shot. Oh, ok. That's how the game is played.

Clay Travis (26:26)

I also think this is so incredibly important associated with this. And it is this fact as he was engaging in this behavior, he should have been arrested. We've got to arrest all of these people because if we don't, in addition to the fact that they're radicalized. Buck, when he kicked the taillight of that car out and when he spit on ICE agents and nothing happened to him, it emboldens him to act out more recklessly because he's seen what he can get away with. And so we're actually. The empathy here of not arresting these protesters is actually toxic in the end result because I do think if he'd been arrested that time, I think he probably would be alive today. I really do.

Buck Sexton (27:13)

Accountability matters. And accountability matters in these, in these criminal issues. It matters as just a person in your day to day life, Clyde. I'm always reminded of this, remember the Duke lacrosse case, which now the old Stephen Miller footage is showing up. Or Stephen Miller was like totally on the right side of that. And that was a real moment. That was before you or I were doing, doing media. That was a real moment though. I mean, they were trying to railroad those kids and I had some kind of third order family connections to one of them where someone, someone in my family is very close to someone who's very close to one of the kids. And you know, we knew that they were getting railroad the whole thing. I bring it up, Clay, because the accuser who was just a liar and tried to ruin people's lives, she should have been prosecuted for making false statements about a felony matter, especially a felony sex crime. She should have it because it's not that they couldn't prove the Duke lacrosse players. I know we're going Back to what, 2005?

Clay Travis (28:08)

I'm looking it up right now, because I was actually.

Buck Sexton (28:11)

It's not that they couldn't prove the Duke lacrosse players were, you know, it's not a not guilty thing. It's. They were innocent. Okay? They weren't even said. They weren't even there. The whole thing was absurd.

Clay Travis (28:22)

2006.

Buck Sexton (28:23)

2006, close. Fast forward. You know that they didn't bring any charges against the accuser who lied. And that is a crime. And they knew that she lied, and then she went on and murdered somebody, stabbed them to death. Now you could say, okay, well, one thing doesn't actually, I think it would have been better off if she had had to face the music on trying to ruin people's lives. I think it would be better for her to have to look in the mirror, maybe spend a year or two in prison for what she did instead of getting 15 to life, which is, I think, what she ended up getting for murder, for stabbing a guy to death.

Clay Travis (28:53)

You hit on something that I want to continue to hammer and I think should be standard in America. If you accuse someone of a crime, could be a sex crime, it could be any crime, and you are able to be proven to have lied, which actually is becoming very common now because there's lots of text message evidence, you know, the technology as such, you should be charged and face the exact same punishment that the person would have faced if you had been able to convict them. In other words, if you accuse someone of rape and you made that up, like the Duke lacrosse case, when you are proven to be a liar, as happened in Duke lacrosse, she should have faced the exact same punishment that all of those Duke lacrosse players would have faced if they had been convicted.

Buck Sexton (29:42)

In other.

Clay Travis (29:43)

There's a mutuality. I think there should be a mutuality in the law because we have to treat lies as more consequential. Because again, to your point, buck process as the punishment when we can. Once you're a guy, if you're accused of rape, they put your name out everywhere. Everybody sees it. You may get kicked out of school, you lose your job. Everything else happen to members of this administration? Yes. And if it later comes out that it isn't true, there are absolutely no consequences for the woman because we have a rape shield law in place. So the mutuality of danger, the mutuality of potential punishment doesn't exist. I think we should have mirror laws. That's fine. If you, if you commit a sexual assault, you should go to prison for the rest of your life or however long the statutes show. Right. But if you make it up, you should be prosecuted in charge to the full extent of the law.

Buck Sexton (30:38)

You're walking, though, into. I mean, I, by the way, I agree with you, but you're walking into a level of nuance that a lot of people are going to immediately skip past, which is they're going to say, now no one's going to want to file a rape claim or whatever. It's not. If you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the offender did it. That's the standard. It's. It can be proven beyond any doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt that you lied about the entire thing. Yes, that's, that's a very high standard. But in the situation like, like the Rolling Stone case, another very well known one. Well, I mean, now that wasn't a, that didn't go to a criminal case. But I'm just saying, in a situation where someone just completely fabricated cross is.

Clay Travis (31:21)

The perfect example to your point. Like that woman lied. Those women lied. They should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There might be someone alive if they had done it. And again, this is proving that you lied. Proving that you lied is hard standard. Right. So there's still ability to lie. But if you get proven to lie, there should be way more, can I just say, than just, oh, the guy's the guy.

Buck Sexton (31:44)

It was. That is the, the actual. By statute, they should have been prosecuted by statute, the D.A. but they decided not to because of all this stuff. So it is illegal to do it. They just decided not to bring the charge. Why are we talking about this Preddy? How is this guy still running around doing this stuff? You can spit in an ICE officer's face and kick the taillight up and face no consequences. You can attack government vehicles and personnel and face no consequences at all. That's where we are. It's weird because I remember with January 6th, if you walk into the Capitol building for less than a minute, ask Julie Kelly. And she followed these cases all so closely. And she followed them when a lot of people had kind of forgotten about them, by the way, which is one of the reasons why we have so much respect for Julie on this show. And we tried to elevate these cases.

Clay Travis (32:35)

I donated a bunch of money so they could get lawyers if for people who have forgotten, it was nice to.

Buck Sexton (32:40)

You, but you're rich, so. But, you know, it was, it was crazy what they were doing to these people. People crazy what they were doing to them. And, and there was no tears for them whatsoever from all these people walked.

Clay Travis (32:52)

Inside of ropes inside of the Capitol. Many of them did and were prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Guy kicks out a taillight and spits on ice agents and nothing happens to him. I'm laughing too, by the way, Buck, because I just checked my email to get ready to do this read and I have equal parts reactions to us talking about this Alex Preddy character and also people fired up about your Natalie Portman take. So you want to talk about range in the first 45 minutes. I have side by side emails from Alex, Freddy take and I'm going to read this, this email from a guy who was fired up. Big Natalie Portman fan base evidently out there that is furious.

Buck Sexton (33:34)

And I think they probably, they probably like sinners too.

Clay Travis (33:37)

Bucks are wrong. I don't know about sinners. I haven't watched it. But I, I think I appreciate Natalie Portman's work. Storms like one this past week that we are still dealing with in Nashville. And by the way, I may need to tee off in this program over this. There's still a hundred thousand people without power households in Nashville. I've got tons of friends and family who don't have power. The Nashville electric service and the mayor of Nashville has dropped the ball on a level that I haven't seen in a very, very long time. And I am super frustrated for so many different people. We've been very fortunate. We kept our power the entire time. But about half the city of Nashville lost their power. If you're trying to rely on government, unfortunately, especially left wing government, they just fail over and over and over again. And that's one reason you might want to have rapid radios. Power is still out for a hundred thousand households in Nashville alone. A lot of you down in Mississippi. Again, I got a message from one of our listeners who said the only way he was able to get in touch with his daughter, she goes to school at Ole Miss, was through rapid radios. Snowstorms got another, what is they calling it, a bomb cyclone snowstorm. That doesn't sound good. For those of y' all on the east coast coming this way, rapid radios, they last five days without a charge and allow you to be able to get in touch everywhere. Ask our producer Greg. He put one in his wife's hands, carried the other in New York City because he was concerned about the snowfall that was going to happen there and what might happen with his home. Right now you can get off 60% off. Producer Greg lives upstate a little bit, comes into the city every single day and they got a lot of damage. Another big storm coming. Go to rapidradios.com today. Discover exclusive deals that won't last long. That's rapidradios.com 60% off. We've got them. In the Travis household. You can't rely on the government when disaster befalls you. Get hooked up. Today that is Rapidradios.com get hooked up Rapidradios.com elevate your connection, your experience. Rapid radios communication redefined. Sometimes all you can do is laugh. And they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang. Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

Buck Sexton (36:02)

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We want to bring you some of the highlights of the Tom Homan meeting from this morning coming up the next hour because he did a phenomenal job making the case not only for ice, but also the administration's deportation goals, the reality of illegal immigration in this country in recent years, how out of control it has gotten. He just, it's just calm, cool and collected. I mean, Holman, you all know from the very beginning he was one of my favorite picks for this administration. He should be leading this deportation effort. He should have been leading it from the very beginning. And I think that's where we are now. Clay, you said you got some emails all from people who are just reminding you of how brilliant your co host cultural analysis is, which is fantastic.

Clay Travis (36:48)

Like two different ones that I thought were really funny. First of all, a lot of people weighing in with how to teach babies to sleep. But here are, let's see, from Anthony, Buck is nuts. Natalie Portman is naturally pretty with no makeup. She may be cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs politically, though. I, I gotta say, I, I, Natalie Portman, two by four. I think she's, she's very pretty. I, I, I, I think you're, I think you're out to lunch on this one. Now here is another one. I thought, I thought, no, I thought this was funny. While it's not, while it's still hard to believe, this is Doug, given your lack of knowledge of, of football, he'll give you a pass on Pat Summerall. But, and I, back in the day, pat Summerall did 25 years of US Open tennis broadcast. Now I don't, I didn't even recall.

Buck Sexton (37:42)

This, like what was like in like the 70s. What do you guys think this is like? You think I'm gonna know the TV announcers for sports from the 70s? What are you also gonna ask me if I, if I went to Woodstock or I used to Watch the Bee Gees live. Like, what are you. What are you doing here, guys?

Clay Travis (37:57)

I don't. I don't know what year. I'm gonna have to look this up. I. I had no recollection of this. I'm guessing that he's. I'm guessing that Pat Summerall did the US Open in the. In the 80s and maybe the 70s. By the way, can we put in her official request to Susie Wiles? Because I actually. I know she doesn't do very much media. I actually think she might want to come on and. And discuss her dad's legacy and. And. And Buck's lack of knowledge of it. Just an idea. Can we put in a request? I don't even know that Susie Wiles has done. She better do anything after the Vanity Fair article, by the way. But if she's going to do one, it might be this. To respond to the Pat Summerall blasphemy from Buck.

Buck Sexton (38:41)

It's not blasphemy. I'm sure he's great. I just don't know who he is. You know, Clay, you know, you could tell me who your favorite soap opera stars from the mid-70s were. You would know that. I wouldn't. I'm not saying they can't act. I'm just saying it was before my time.

Clay Travis (38:56)

I was a big Days of Our Lives fan because my grandma watched it. I liked Bow and Hope. That was a great storyline they had back in the day.

Buck Sexton (39:03)

Look, John Black, this is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.