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Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
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Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
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Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Jeremy Scott
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app. App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome, everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Very pleased to have you with with us here. Clay is doing golf today, couple golf days this week. He says that when you see some of the videotaped swings that he has put forth on the course, it will make Happy Gilmore looked like he didn't know how to swing at all. I don't know. He's talking a big game about it, so we shall see. And we will get into more of that with him tomorrow. He'll be back tomorrow. I'll actually be out in Arizona tomorrow, which I'm looking forward to. I've, believe it or not, I have two great states that in just recent, recent time here, I haven't. Well, I have never visited before and will have recently been to one being Colorado. First ever time in Colorado recently. Lovely place. And Arizona. I've actually never been to Arizona. Been to Baghdad a few times, as I like to say, never been to Arizona. So I need to get there. I'll be there tomorrow. Looking forward to it. All right. I know there's a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff to dive into. We have a Congressman Jim Jordan with us talking to him. Second hour, we'll discuss, oh, so many things. The economy, the Trump agenda, America, the restoration, all those good, good things. And then Senator Marsha Blackburn, third hour, we'll speak with her about immigration and the deportation flights and also the economy. Cause I know a lot of people are focused in on that. Um, and remember, it was just, just yesterday, Trump tweeted out, or I guess it's truth, doubt that it is liberation Day. And that refers to the tariffs. Now there's a whole bunch of tariffs. White House has put out a lot of information about this. There's a whole bunch of tariffs that are taking effect. Here's what we know. President Trump. This is from the White House. President Trump invoking his authority under the International Emergency Economic Powers act of 1977 to address the emergency posed by the large and persistent trade deficit that is driven by the absence of reciprocity in our trade relationships and other harmful policies like currency manipulation and exorbitant value added taxes. That tax perpetuated by other countries. Under this IEEPA authority, President Trump will impose a 10% tariff on all countries going into effect April 5th. And then President Trump will impose an additional reciprocal tariff on countries with which the United States has the largest trade deficits. All other countries will continue to be subject to the original 10% that will take effect April 9th. And now there's more specificity about this and it goes into US Mexico, Canada agreement, how that plays into this. So there are some, some goods are not part of the reciprocal tariff. Steel, aluminum, auto parts. Okay, so there's a lot of stuff going on and it's big. I'm not going to sit here and act like this is small potatoes. It's a big deal economically. And I think that first off, the best way to do this is to allow President Trump to make the case to you. Based on what he said yesterday about why this is necessary. I think it's unrealistic that there are people out there. Well, first of all, there are people who all they want to do is complain about Trump. Not just Democrats. There's some Republicans too who seem like they only want to complain about find something even no matter how minute. Remember, remember Signal Gate a week ago? Oh my gosh, there was a journalist. The strikes all happened, but a journalist found out, but he didn't say anything. You know, come on, here's what's going on right now. Trump is trying to reorient a substantial component of our economy to create long term benefit for the American people. Now here is President Trump yesterday. I wanted you to hear this. This is clips a little over a minute long. Wanted you to hear though. Why are we doing this? Let's get into it. Let's hear from the man himself. He is absolutely committed to this. He believes in it to his core. He has believed in it for a very long time. Why are we doing this? Liberation Day remarks yesterday from Trump play cut one.
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Donald Trump
In the coming days there will be complaints from the globalists and the outsourcers and special interest and the fake news, always the fake news will always complain. But never forget. Every prediction our opponents made about trade for the last 30 years has been proven totally wrong. They were wrong about nafta. They were wrong about China. They were wrong about the Trans Pacific Partnership which would have been a disaster if I didn't terminate it. If I didn't turn that, terminate that. United Auto Workers. You would have had no jobs in this country. You would have had no jobs, jobs. It was all going to other countries in my first term. They said tariffs would crash the economy. Instead, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world. And again, I have great respect for President Xi of China, great respect for China, but they were taking tremendous advantage of them, of us. And, and I commend them for that. I say, hey, if you can get away with it, that's okay. But, you know, they understand exactly what's happening, and they probably, most of them are saying it's about time they did something. But. And they're going to fight. They're going to fight fair. Everyone's going to fight. You know, it's like I say to the leaders, look, you got to take care of your country, but we have to start taking care of our country now. We can't do what we've been doing for the last 50 years.
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Clay Travis
Okay, now let's, let's take this apart a little bit and get into what he's saying. And notice I've been saying it to you for a long time, but just in advance of those remarks, what he. I had made the same case to you, which is that Trump has been right when it comes to big issues of trade, commerce, big issues of commerce, where the consensus such as that exists. You know, you can always argue what is the consensus and why do we think there is even such a thing? But such as it exists was wrong. It was wrong. On China. Here, here's, you know, Trump came into office in 2016, and on China, China, he was taking positions that they said, oh, it's going to lead to a trade war. But we could even take it further back than that. It had been for decades before Trump even thought about or was really considering seriously running for president. I'm going back. You go back to the 80s, go back to the 90s. It had been the international elite consensus that if we just give China what it wants when it comes to trade, it will liberalize and democratize over time and everybody will win. And they let it in the wto, World Trade Organization. That was completely wrong. Right? There are a lot of different experts and think tanks and everything who for a long time were taking the position that all you have to do is just open up your markets to China. And as China buys our Coca Cola and as China starts importing all of our cheap stuff made in huge factories here, they're going to be all about human rights and democracy and freedom. Just give it time. Totally wrong. There's been no real evidence of that whatsoever. In fact, the opposite, you could argue, has occurred. And China has become more belligerent, more bellicose, more difficult to deal with as it has become wealthier. So we made China rich under the eye, under the auspices of this is going to help us and it's going to help national security. And, oh, that means that we're aware that trade and national security are things that intersect and that some things that are in your national security interest are not necessarily completely in your immediate trade interest, like being able to make your own antibiotics, being able to produce enough of your own microchips, you know, go down the line, a whole range of things, but we'll get more into that. Trump, though, sees this and he. It takes somebody like him who is willing to put this kind of political capital on the line to take this kind of a risk. And I will, I will be clear with you about this. It's a risk. It's a risk economically, financially, for the country. But I think a couple things about it. One, it makes sense to me as he explains it, and as we see what's happening, there already have been countries. Just yesterday, Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu said, look, we're getting rid of all, you know what? He's right. Let's get rid of all trade barriers with the United States and let's just continue to build that special relationship. Great. Look at that. There are other countries as well that have backed off a tariff that they have, or they're, you know, this is all part of a negotiation. So as we go into some of the details here, and I'll, I'll play more from Trump and more from Stephen Miller. Yeah, massive change is going to feel unsettling for people for a little bit. It's not going to just happen overnight and be perfect. But if you want to fix things, you have to be willing to take the actions to fix them and be in a position to do so. And like I said, Trump is willing to do this. He could be on the golf course with Clay right now. Hang. I mean, he actually might be, but I don't think he is. I'm like, is. He is claying his foursome. But I'm, But I mean, he could be hanging on the golf course forever. He, he could just be. He's got billions of dollars, he's got grandkids and family and, you know, he, he could just sail off into the sunset and enjoy himself at Mar a Lago. But instead, he has taken it upon himself to try to do something incredibly important for the future of the country because he truly believes in it. And he has, I have to look at the record here. He has been right on areas where the economic consensus has been against him. That is a fact. And so on this one, again, there are a lot of people, and there are some people that I respect a lot and like a lot on the right who are very concerned about this. And to them I just say I think Trump has made a strong enough case and is in a strong enough position politically where let the man cook, let him do what he does. Let's see how he negotiates. Even Bill Ackman, right, who's a kind of a recent convert to the center, I would say he used to be a Democrat, Hillary supporter, etc. Bill Ack is a multi billionaire, hedge fund guy, investor guy, and he's along with Elon and some of these other very wealthy, very high IQ individuals have realized Democrat party's insane. They're a bunch of lunatic, gender identity obsessed communists. So he says if you're going to be common sense, or he's seen if you're going to be common sense, you have to be a Republican. There's no other major political party for you to support right now. Maybe he calls himself an independent, I don't know. But I thought this was very, very astute observation from Bill Ackman. He, he put out on X. Sometimes the best strategy in a negotiation is convincing the other side that you are crazy. Now I know some of you might be like, hey, Trump's not crazy. Well, yeah, he's not crazy. Obviously. He's crazy like a fox in this context. Meaning he's a guy who needs the other side to believe that he's willing to do things that, that were impossible for American leadership to consider before that there could be consequences and that's that. So that's a, that's a part of this. I've said to you before, I've explained, you know, we were just talking about who is the actor, I'm blanking on his name, who just, just passed away. Who is in heat? Val Kilmer. Thank you. Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer's best role in my opinion. You can argue, I know some of you are going to say the Doors, but I think Val Kilmer's best role for me is Tombstone where he plays Doc Holliday. And there's a great scene, I've mentioned this to you before in the context of foreign policy with Trump. I think it applies here too, where Wyatt Earp, very competently, very well played by Kurt Russell, they kind of, they throw the, the double barreled shotgun when they're about to have the shootout in the OK Corral. They didn't know it was going to be shootout, but they were preparing. He throws the shotgun and he goes, let's put Doc on the street howitzer. They might have less itchy trigger fingers as a result, something like that. Right. But let's put Doc Holliday on the street howitzer being you want the crazy guy with the bazooka is basically the idea in this analogy. Trump is the crazy guy with the bazooka on trade. You want, you want to play this game with him or you want to be reasonable? You want to be fair, you want to deal with the reciprocal tariffs? You know, for a guy who has survived two assassination attempts, two impeachments, you know, four baloney criminal trials, beat the Hillary machine, beat the Biden, you know, Kamala machine. I think he's earned the right to try this his way and at least have those of us who have believed in him all along look at this and say, let's see what he can do. And just remember this catastrophism and selling panic. It's just such a cheap way of getting attention for so many people. It's, oh, you know, the sky is falling stuff. Cheap way of getting attention. Cheap way of having people think that you have something worthwhile to say. Stock market's gone down. Look at the stock market. It hasn't gone down in any meaningful way really since 2008 other than the pandemic drop. And the pandemic drop was completely a self inflicted wound. And, and anybody like me who was paying attention was like, well, this is going to be great because people are going to realize this is like a cold and we should just go back about our lives. And there's no, you know, the economy isn't destroyed by the pandemic. That was just lunatics who made it anyway. So yeah, there may be, there may be something of a, of a drop in the stock market for a bit. I believe it will be temporary. Look, if it's not temporary, then the American people can go and vote and they can hold Trump and the Republicans accountable for this decision the next time around. I think they're going to say when it comes time for that, wow, what leadership. Look at how things are going better for us now. And that's what leadership is. When you have what you believe truly you, based on all your wisdom and all of your life experience and all of your expertise, this is the right thing. To do. It's in the best interest of the people I lead. And I'm going to do it because of that. I'm not going to sit around and, you know, oh, which way is the wind blowing? So this is what Liberation Day is about. We'll talk more about it. I'll take your calls on it. 800-282-2882. Look, another week, another new cyber scam. Some cyber hackers are really smart, unfortunately, and they've got all kinds of really clever ways to get a hold of your identity online. It's never personal. They're not targeting you. 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Nate Silver
I'm Nate Silver.
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about taking risks in everything from poker to politics.
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Nate Silver
And we talk about betting. From betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. We've learned a lot about taking risks through our own research and sometimes even our own bets at and we share what we've learned with you.
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Maria Konnikova
Are you still doing sports betting? I had no idea that you'd wagered over a million dollars. For your research.
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Nate Silver
I bet almost the entirety of the 20, 22, 23 NBA season, all the regular season and about half the playoffs. And I learned that, I mean, it's probably what I should have expected, but I learned that it's pretty hard. I went on a huge heater at the start of the NBA season where it was up, like 70,000 bucks. I'm like, man, I'm really good at the sports betting stuff. But then, but then, things change.
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Maria Konnikova
Now that Marge Madness is upon us. We're talking bracket strategies and a whole lot more. Join us and listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
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Clay Travis
I just knew him as a kid.
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Jeremy Scott
Long, silent voices from his past came.
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Gilbert King
Forward, and he was just staring at me.
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Jeremy Scott
And they had secrets of their own to share.
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Gilbert King
Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
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Jeremy Scott
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
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Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
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Gilbert King
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
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Jeremy Scott
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
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Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Jeremy Scott
Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy.
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Clay Travis
Jeremy, I want to tell you something.
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Jeremy Scott
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck and we have a talk back here from a lovely listener in Rebecca. Rebecca is a lovely listener who is giving us a talk back about Arizona. Play it. What are you doing going to Arizona when your wife's about to pop? I love how we're just. It's like we're all in the family, right? You're just like, buck, what are you doing? You know, what are you doing? I had committed a long time ago to give a speech at a wonderful organization in, in Arizona and like many, many months ago. And I keep my commitments and Kerry is not due And I've told her that if, you know, I need to, I'll, I'll find a way back early. But we're thinking it's going to be fine. Tell you I said, honey, do you want me to try to cancel and get a replacement? She said, no, no, no, no, it's, it's fine, super wife. So, yeah, so say a prayer for us because I'm living on the edge with the timing here a little bit. But I'll be back. I'll be back. It's going to be fine. When you switch your cell phone service to P. PureTalk from ATT, Verizon or T Mobile, you'll be saving $50 or more every month without sacrificing any quality of Service. That's because PureTalk only charges $25 a month for unlimited talk text and 5 gigs of data on America's most dependable 5G network. Now put the entire family on a Pure Talk plan and you're talking about saving more than a thousand dollars a year. And with PureTalk's US customer service team, you can switch hassle free in as little as 10 minutes. You can even keep your phone and your number using your cell phone. Dial £250, say the keywords clay and buck to make the switch. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Again, dial £250, say the words clay and buck and you can start your Savings today with PureTalk. I've been on PureTalk for years. Fantastic carrier. Absolutely fantastic customer service. Dial pound 250C Clay and Bach. PureTalk Wireless by Americans for America.
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Donald Trump
My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day waiting for a long time. April 2, 2025, will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny was reclaimed, and the day that we began to make America wealthy again. Going to make it wealthy, good and wealthy. Our country and its taxpayers have been ripped off for more than 50 years. But it is not going to happen anymore. It's not going to happen.
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Clay Travis
President Trump there speaking on Liberation Day, which was yesterday, which, who knows, could be a day that we all remember for a long time to come. Probably more so in retrospect, right? Otherwise, yesterday seemed like a pretty normal day. But President Trump is very committed to this idea of rebalancing the unbalanced playing field of global trade. And again, the fundamental questions that I continue to pose, and I never get a good answer for this, if it's so bad to have tariffs, why do other countries have tariffs? Keep in mind, it's not even just tariffs. Look, this is very complicated stuff. You're talking about a global economy of $30 trillion. There's a lot going on, okay? The numbers are massive, thankfully. Right. The world is so much. The world overall is so much wealthier in real terms today than it was a hundred years ago or a hundred years before that. You know, the, the system that we have, for all of its imperfections, capitalism and markets, has created incredible human prosperity and flourishing, which is a great thing and we shouldn't lose sight of that. Right? You are. This is what I was, I was saying a catastrophism is a, is a simpleton's way of getting attention, right? Oh, everything's going to fall apart. I think I've shared with you before this anecdote that one of my favorite authors, Michael Crichton, I know he's like a sci fi pop writer guy, but I think he's brilliant. He passed away years ago, but he said that he had had the experience, he had learned over many years running in circles among the elites because remember the 90s, if you were a bestselling, if you were Michael Crichton or a Tom Clancy or. I'm trying to. Who's the guy who does all the Grisham? You know, I mean, you know Stephen King. I know Stephen King is like a lunatic communist, but he sold a lot of books. If you're one of these guys, you were in elite society and invited a lot of parties and stuff so people could be like, oh, I saw so and so the famous author and he said that if, if you, if you try to tell people that the world is actually good and getting better, they there. They want to fight you because they think that that's a more sophisticated position to take. It's more sophisticated always in the eyes of people who generally aren't as smart as they think they are to say everything is crap, everything's going to hell. And, and they know that that gets attention too. And it's a very simple position to take. Is a very. It's the easy way out. Now there are problems, right? You don't want to be on the other side either, where everything is amazing. But he just, he warned against using catastrophism as a fallback and a means of getting attention for yourself. And I think that there's a lot of. And he actually said that people get mad at. Would get mad at him when he would explain to them that scientifically the advances that are going on in the world. And, and this came up in the context of climate change, he'd tell people, no, no, you don't have to worry. Climate change, is it real? Yeah, but not in any significant way. It doesn't matter, so don't worry. And they would get very angry about that. Right. You were telling them that their climate change false God was, was not real with this. What I see is a lot of people who know that if they tell you that the world is falling apart right now because of Trump and they tell you that, oh, the markets, look at what the markets are doing and all this stuff, then even if they're wrong, in six months or a year, things will be so much better that nobody will really take the time to go back and say, hey, why were you so wrong about this? But also so negative and really undermining the necessary resetting of some of these global relationships, because that's really what we're talking about here, you know, international trade relationships. And then there's the Stephen Miller approach, which is. Stephen Miller is, he takes the intellectual approach, but he also applies a little bit of the Conan the Barbarian ethic to it, where he is just like, I'm going to drive my enemy from their villages and hear the lamentations of their women. Like, Stephen Miller does not hold back. My man has showed up ready to throw down from day one of the first Trump term. And now, as you know, he's a White House deputy, White House deputy Chief of staff. Here he is on Liberation Day. This is Cut six, just laying it out there. And I think he was hitting home runs. Listen to it.
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Stephen Miller
The announcement today is the most significant action on global trade policy that has taken place in our lifetimes. It's not even a close call. This is probably the biggest event that's happened on global trade since the very ill fated decision that we are now reversing of knocking down all of America's trade tariffs and revenue policies that led to the offshoring and outsourcing of all of our industries. This is the great reverse of that great portrayal is how I look at it. So in the 20th century, successive American presidents knocked down all of the policies that we had to protect American industry. And they did insane things like letting China into the World Trade Organization as an example. And we watched all of our factories go overseas. This is the complete reversal of that. This is the great onshoring, the great reshoring of American jobs and wealth. So if you look at America today, we're totally dependent on foreign countries for the supplies that make this country run for all of the essential goods, materials, Manufactured products that make it possible for us to live our lives, our cars, our electronics, all the materials that go into our homes, our buildings, our medical supplies, our entire supply chains are completely embedded in foreign countries. So if there's a national emergency of any kind and a country shuts off an import or a foreign power embargoes a sea lane, we are then left defenseless, helpless because of the decisions that prior leaders made that President Trump is now reversing to let all of these industries leave our country.
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Clay Travis
He's laying it out so well. And I'll get more into the national security piece of this in a second because that's even more long term in the thinking. Well, we would hope, right? What happens in what does the world look like given current trajectories for warfare? Warfare of the future is going to be. We've just gone through a period of 20 something years here where America in our wars has had complete technological dominance, complete aerial dominance, and they were really large scale policing and counterinsurgency actions in Iraq and Afghanistan and nation building for people that should build their own nations. And we should have left that to them. But that's a, let's just not walk down that pathway right now. But there was a particular focus on the, you know, the, the elite individual soldier, the American soldier and all the different things and rules. But, but it was an infantry, largely infantry operations we're talking about here. Right. The war of the future that we're look, especially if we avoid getting into these, these entanglements of nation building and trying to separate warring parties. You know, I, I'm weaving here. So I'm sorry, I got to go into this for a second. I watched on Netflix recently, this was worth it. This is actually worth watching Surviving Black Hawk down and Surviving Black Hawk Downs. Very good, very well done series. I read the Mark Bowdoin book when it came out. Actually, initially it was a series of articles and then it came out as a book. But I read it a long time ago and then I saw the movie. I think the movie is one of the best war movies I've ever seen. One of the most realistic modern war movies ever made. And you know, it's just, it's an incredible story. It's an incredible story and it shows the bravery, the challenges, the risks that our infantry, our soldiers take in these kind of third world hellholes. But also what the surviving Black Hawk down, to me at least series adds to this is you get the. A little more of the context of what the heck were we doing there Bill Clinton, of course, running the show. And we're there. There's a civil war going on, you know, all over Somalia, but mostly based in Mogadishu. You got warring factions and we're, we're trying to do a humanitarian mission, but then we've got Apaches doing strike missions. And then we want to do more human, I mean, it was the, the strategic, the policy level was a disaster. And I just got to say that Bill Clinton, the most overrated intellect maybe in the history of American politics. Ok, I'm so smart. Yeah, please, we know what Bill, we know what Bill was really thinking about. And it wasn't policy in Somalia, that's for sure. And brave soldiers of ours paid, paid for the poor strategy and planning with their lives. And many of them were, were wounded. But I think about this in the context of these, we've learned this lesson many times. Oh, and you also, I would add to this, you see the perspective of Somali militia leaders. They interviewed them, which was really interesting. Who were there that day of the Black Hawk down incident. You see what they were saying. And anyway, so I would, I would recommend you. I know a lot of you don't like Netflix, you don't want to subscribe to it, but I'm just saying if you do subscribe to Netflix, this is a worthwhile series. But that was another one of these police actions. What are we doing there? Assuming we don't do that. And that's a lesson that we may have to just keep in mind going forward. Right. That's something that, that, you know, you look at the Democrats, if Democrats see an opportunity to send other people's sons and daughters to die for a war that they themselves would not fight in, but makes them feel good about themselves at Georgetown cocktail parties, hey, that's the kind of war they want other people fighting. So we have to remember that's not what we want. That's not what we want to do. But the war of the future is going to be based on technology, materiel, machinery and robotics and AI and satellite connectivity and drones. That, that's very apparent. And I have friends who work in the aerospace and defense sector, and I know people that are, that are involved in the, in the cutting edge of this. And why does that matter for trade? Because that really turns into a who can make more of the best stuff. The fastest at the highest level wins. So it's not just a, oh, China has cheaper labor costs and less environmental regulation, so we should just let them make all of our stuff? Well, if things continue to heat up. Remember, this is not stuff you can switch on overnight. If China has all the factories to give us all this stuff for different sectors that are national security dependent, they can turn that spigot off when they want to. And yeah, maybe in a couple of years we could start to catch up. But if we go into a hot war with China in 20 years or 10 years, or who knows, we're not going to have a few years to play catch up. And that's what Trump and his team are taking into account now as well. I understand there's also the short term financial impacts and we'll talk more about this. But, but there's a clear national security component to the degree the amount of offshoring that we have for our industrial base. And that's, that's an additional conversation to what do we do for the American middle class? Just working Americans trying to pay their bills, you know, what happens for them, what's best for them. How can you, how can you create an economy where there are a lot of job opportunities? Of course, illegal immigration plays into this too. Supply and demand in terms of human material is also a real thing, right? You have to look at personnel that matters, how many people are available for a job that matters. So all these different pieces come together. But back on the national security piece, as I said, Stephen Miller laying it down yesterday on Liberation Day, this is cut seven.
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Stephen Miller
And so what he's doing today is for the first time ever, he's saying that if you have stolen our jobs and therefore threatens our national security, we will apply a reciprocal tariff based on the degree of your misconduct. So for countries like China, for example, they will see a very high tariff rate because they've engaged in the most egregious conduct that threatens our national security. For countries that have severe but not as severe misconduct, they'll see a moderate but not as high tariff rate. The effect though, of those global tariffs will be that companies will have to move their production back into the United States. So factories will leave, whether it be Mexico or Canada or Vietnam or Cambodia or China or the European Union. They will come back to the United States to produce their products, to make their goods. And in so doing, yes, it will create jobs, yes, it will increase revenues, but most importantly, it will restore our national security so that we will not be dependent on anyone else to survive and thrive as a nation.
- [35:27]
Clay Travis
All of these pieces together, they all tie in together. And there, yes, there are competing interests and yes, this isn't going to be easy from the get go, there's going to be an adjustment period. I don't know how long it will be. And as I've said, you know, if Trump is wrong on this one and the economy has a look, it's not, it's not going to be the Great Depression. It's not going to. Please. I actually think things are going to, it's going to be pretty quick and you're going to have what I would say is the Trump dividend. The Trump bounce back might take until the fall, maybe it's this summer, I don't know. But once some of this stuff gets cleared out of the system and once they start bringing rates down and there's all these things that can happen, you are going to see. Remember the first Trump I keep talking about the record. Remember the first Trump economy before COVID and before the Democrats because they're psychos. Use the whole thing or lock everything down and shut down the economy artificially. Economy from 2016-20, 2017, when Trump took office, to 2019, was kicking butt. Kicking butt and all the, all the way through. The guy knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing on this stuff. I have faith in him and I think all of you do as well. So we'll continue to follow this. I'm gonna tell you something. Clay was down here for a couple days. We had a great time. South beach, you might have seen. I posted weird. We actually went to the gym together yesterday, you know, throwing up. I don't know. I wasn't, I'm not counting, you know, we're, Clay and I throwing up four or five hundred pounds on the bench. Can neither confirm nor deny. But what I can confirm for you is we had a steak night with good ranchers. So we're sponsors of, sponsored, of course, here on the show by good ranchers. But they kind of sponsored our steak night because Carrie and I have a, have a freezer full of good rancher stuff. We, we even had the chicken nuggets during the show. Not yesterday, the day before. I just made some chicken nuggets as a snack during the break. We're here in my home studio. But the steak night with good ranchers was absolutely fantastic. I'm going to tell you this. Good ranchers all speaking about all American, All American farms, All American ranchers. I love their stuff. It's so delicious. Let me tell you. I run the cast iron here. I will say Kerry is the queen of the kitchen, but I run the cast iron, okay? I'm the cast iron man. And I took some t bone steaks from good ranchers that I had and I, I seared them. They were so delicious. Usually I'll make like a little bit of a kind of a butter and herb sauce, if you will. For the steak. I didn't eat it because it was so juicy and 10 so I didn't make any sauce, which is nice, right? Because I don't need it because the meat's that good. Get a good rancher's box. You will see for yourself. Goodranchers.com They've got all kinds of different boxes set up. Pick different ones if you want month to month, but get set up with good ranchers. Enter my name, Buck as you're making your purchase. You'll receive free bacon, ground beef and seed oil, free chicken nuggets or salmon for a year and $40 off. We really want you to try this. You're getting a really amazing deal right now. Go to goodranchers.com enter code buck to shop, subscribe and stand with American Ranchers. Let them cater your next steak night, my friends. Plus they got great chicken, great salmon. Go to goodranchers.com enter code buck. You'll get some freebies in there and $40 off. Sometimes all you can do is laugh. And they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang. Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Nate Silver
I'm Nate Silver.
- [38:54]
Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about taking risks in everything from poker to politics.
- [39:04]
Nate Silver
And we talk about betting, from betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. We've learned a lot about taking risks through our own research and sometimes even our own bets. And we share what we've learned with you.
- [39:15]
Maria Konnikova
Are you still doing sports betting? I had no idea that you'd wagered over a million dollars for your research.
- [39:21]
Nate Silver
I bet almost the entirety of the 20, 22, 23 NBA season, all the regular season and about half the playoffs. And I learned that, I mean, it's probably what I should have expected, but I learned that it's pretty hard. I went on a huge heater at the start of the NBA season where it was up like 70,000 bucks. I'm like, man, I'm really good at the sports betting stuff. But then, but then things change.
- [39:42]
Maria Konnikova
Now that March Madness is upon us. We're talking bracket strategies and a whole lot more. Join us and listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [39:56]
Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
- [40:03]
Clay Travis
I just knew him as a kid.
- [40:05]
Jeremy Scott
Long, silent voices from his past came.
- [40:08]
Gilbert King
Forward and he was just staring at me.
- [40:11]
Jeremy Scott
And they had secrets of their own to share.
- [40:15]
Gilbert King
Gilbert King. I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
- [40:21]
Jeremy Scott
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
- [40:25]
Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [40:29]
Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
- [40:34]
Gilbert King
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
- [40:39]
Jeremy Scott
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
- [40:46]
Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
- [40:49]
Jeremy Scott
Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy, Jeremy, I.
- [40:53]
Clay Travis
Want to tell you something.
- [40:55]
Jeremy Scott
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
- [41:13]
Clay Travis
All right, welcome back. As a quick turn here, so let me say we're going to have Jim Jordan joining shortly. We'll talk to him about the tariffs about Trump. Oh, my, so much going on. I'm going to run down and get some Crockett coffee and you should, too. Go to crockett coffee.com and you will see America's best coffee available for you there. I like to go organic roast these days, but we got ground whole bean. It's fantastic coffee. And you should be drinking our coffee because one, you know, you're our family and two, 10 of our profits goes to Taunton Towers Foundation. So please become a subscriber today. We so, so appreciate all of you. And we're already in talks with some great Davy Crockett historical sites to do a live event this fall. So that is going to be happening. But subscribers get first dibs. Go to crockettcoffee.com get your subscription set up today. 10% goes to Thompson Towers. Kim Jordan. Up next.
- [42:05]
Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
- [42:12]
Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [42:17]
Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
- [42:21]
Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
- [42:24]
Jeremy Scott
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.