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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome in we are here Wednesday edition of the program. A lot of stories to discuss with all of you. Congressman Jim Jordan gonna be with us at 1:30 to talk about Google admitting that YouTube canceled conservatives. Sorry. He's gonna be with us at 1 here in about an hour and then in the third hour we're gonna be joined by Florida Senator Rick Scott to talk about the latest on battle on Capitol Hill. Shutdown or no shutdown. Buck and I have told you for years that this is probably the story that always ends with the government being funded and yet turns into a multi day, multi week drama. Filled oh my goodness, what's gonna happen? Spoiler alert. They're all Gonna spend a lot more of your money. This is how it's going to end. But people will get fired up and we will discuss that. But unfortunately, breaking news in the last hour and a half or so, a shooting has taken place at a Dallas ICE facility. A sniper on a roof who has engraved anti ice messages on his bullets. Not dissimilar to what happened with Luigi Mangione, left wing shooter who assassinated the United Healthcare CEO. Not dissimilar to the person who killed Charlie Kirk in an act of cold blooded political assassination. This has become quite the left wing trend. If you want to know what the motivation is, all you have to do is actually check the bullets. And let's go to the latest news announcements on that which begins, I believe with cut one.
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Clay Travis
Maybe most of all, I want to thank the people who don't support my.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's nice. We'll get to Jimmy Kimmel in a little bit. But the top of the list here for the shooting that just took place, this is going to be. If I need to pull up the exact number right off the top of the, of the list. Cut to FBI Special Agent in charge Joe Rothrock is telling us just what happened in Dallas.
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FBI Special Agent Joe Rothrock
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is unfortunately just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence to include here in North Texas where back on July 4th we saw a coordinated attack carried out against an immigration detention center in Alvarado, Texas. What I can also share with you is that early evidence that we've seen from rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages that are anti ice in nature. Again, this is just the most recent example of this type of attack.
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Buck Sexton
Ok, so Buck, this is direct result of the rhetoric we've been hearing for some time.
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Clay Travis
This is left wing terrorism. This is anti republican, anti Trump, anti rule of law terrorism. I don't know why there's a hesitation to say this. Maybe because I think I would still qualify as a terrorism expert. I feel like I can just say this. I used to argue with, with people about this when it was in the old jihadist days, we had all this jihadist terrorism happening and as we know, there'd be very clear, very clear motivation and they would always say we'll never know the real motives. We now. Targeted violence. Yeah, just. It's terrorism. If you want to say suspected terrorism, fine, you know, in the, in the opening hours after an incident like this. But this was targeting a government facility with anti government Messages written on the bullets. And as we know, this was also the case with the Charlie Kirk assassin. And there's a very clear pattern that is emerging here. Everybody. First of all, these terrorists, the Charlie Kirk assassin was a terrorist. This individual who took his life, we don't know much more about him than that. Also engaged in an act of terrorism. Remember, Clay, you were an insurrectionist terrorist. According to Democrats, if you nonviolently entered the Capitol building on video for 60 seconds with police officers waving you in and with people walking and respecting the velvet ropes in statuary hall, I'm not saying everybody was in that category. There are some people that scuffled with cops, but there were a lot of people who just walked into the building and were treated like terrorists. We now have people who are murdering people at government facilities because they are angry with government policy. This is textbook definition, definition, political violence, terrorism. And they feel the need these, these, these terrorists now to write their beliefs on the bullets. Because I think they want everyone to know. I think they are worried. And I mean this, I know this sounds crazy. I think they are worried that CNN is going to say, we may never know the motive. We may never know the motive of this guy. This isn't about left or right. This isn't. This guy is like no ice is fascism. Here's why I'm doing this. I'm a maniac because I listen to what the New York Times and CNN say every day.
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Buck Sexton
Let me ask you this.
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Clay Travis
I think he wants to make it explicit.
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Buck Sexton
You are more knowledgeable in weaponry than me. This whole engraving messages on bullets thing, it obviously is becoming a trend. I think to your point, the reason it's becoming a trend is because these left wingers have heard left wing media say every time a left winger does something, we may never know the reason that he did this. Right. Anytime somebody has a connection to the right or Trump instantaneously, it's, well, this is what happens in Trump's America. Anytime somebody engages in left wing political violence, terrorism, as you just said, the immediate response from the media is, well, you know, there's a lot of conflicting stories here. We may never know the motive. So they're saying, here is my motive. But how weird is it to engrave bullets? Is this easy to do? Is this common? What have you seen in your, like, sort of gun background?
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Clay Travis
It's. Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not hard to do at all. It's.
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Buck Sexton
But is this a popular trend? I mean, like, I just, I have.
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Clay Travis
I mean, if you're asking. I have fired tens of thousands of rounds in my life. I have never seen or done a bullet engraving in my life. Now this is not a, this is not a thing that people generally do for fun. I mean think about it. It makes, if you're going to arrange. It makes no sense. Why would you do this?
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Buck Sexton
That was my general idea. But you're more, more knowledgeable on weaponry be. But it has become a left wing trend with Luigi Mangione with now the shooter of Charlie Kirk.
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Clay Travis
I think we've stumbled on for everybody here and this will now reverberate through the broader ecosystem and I hope that it does. I hope people on the right understand this. They are writing their motives on the bullets because the terrorists want everyone to know and they're sick of CNN for political reasons pretending that we may never know what the motive is.
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Buck Sexton
I think that's right.
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Clay Travis
This is, this is absolutely what is going on here. You know, this is the, this is like somebody leaving a suicide note cuz they want to, you know, have their say or they want to tell people why in this case this guy committed. It was a murder suicide. And it just couldn't be more clear to me that that's what's going on here. And I'm sorry, but I also have to point out that this person who did this and there are people who are dead, I mean this is. There are two people who have been murdered by this maniac. You know, their families are getting the worst news imaginable today. Those families are shattered. They have to deal with this. You know, we don't know much of the details of either the victims or the shooter yet. But Clay, you had Gavin Newsom who is currently I think the de facto leader of the Democrat party. I mean people could argue that, but I think that's a fair assessment. Talking about how it's fascism for members of ICE to have their identities protected while they're doing their completely lawful jobs. Because he wants them to be able to be doxed by antifa and he wants their families to get death threats. So he is sending a signal to everybody. The governor of California, our largest state, the people who are doing the work of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement are fair game for all kinds of things. And some people take it to this extreme. It's certainly by the way fair game to be having this like obstruction and gathering at these facilities and shouting epithets at them. These are law enforcement officers. Gavin Newsom should be ashamed. He's incapable of shame.
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Buck Sexton
But this is what's going on cash. Patel, by the way, has posted photos of the ammunition, ammunition rounds already on social media showing that, I mean, legitimately. Now it looks like it's written in a pen, maybe not an engraver. It's. But anti ICE is written on the, on the rounds. And again.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
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Buck Sexton
No, I was going to play Ted Cruz here because Ted Cruz is also our friend from Senator, Senator from Texas saying this, this is cut one.
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Caller Don
This must stop. To every politician who is using rhetoric, demonizing ICE and demonizing cbp, stop. To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxed and calling for people to go after their families. This has very real consequences. Look, in America, we disagree. That's fine. That's the democratic process. But your political opponents are not Nazis. We need to learn to work together without demonizing each other, without attacking each other. And I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you to the brave men and women of law enforcement.
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Clay Travis
Okay. I mean, I. Everything he says, everything Senator Cruz says is correct. It needs to be said. It will have no impact. They're not going to stop. I'm not saying he shouldn't say it. It needs to be said, but they're not going to stop. And that's what we need to recognize here, because this is the resistance now. This is the center of Democrat opposition to Trump, to maga, to all of it. And Clay, to the point I was making, and I know you're on board for this because I think we just assess this very straight in a very straightforward way. The terrorists, and they are terrorists, are writing their motives on their bullets so that CNN can have a spin room thing of like, well, we may never know. And obviously they need to do things like that because look at Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel goes on the air and says that it was one of the, one of the MAGA gang who killed Charlie Kirk or it was one of their people or whatever it is that he said. So it's not strange at all that these terrorists are making it, even when they make it explicit. There are people who are going to be saying, oh, this isn't for the purpose that you are engaged in this terrorism. So I think they want to make it completely inescapably obvious.
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Buck Sexton
I think that's 100% true. I also think at some point in time, and we've been talking about this on this show for, for a long time, we even mentioned yesterday on the Atlantic, there's going to have to be a real discussion. And I think it's going to have to come from the left of the fact that there are a lot of people that have been told for a decade that we're all Nazis, just almost everybody listening to this program right now that we're Nazi stormtroopers and that our lives are, as a result, not worthy of protection and in fact, are worthy of being taken. And all of these people believe this is important. I think, too, they think they're heroes. Like, they think they are the good guys that are standing up to evil because their politicians have convinced them of it.
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Clay Travis
You've brought up that kind of intentionally surreal or absurd baby Hitler analogy, right, which people talk about, and especially online. We don't even have to make it absurd. We could bring it into the present day. If it were in fact true. And to be very clear, it is not right. We all know that, yes, if it were in fact true, that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement were making people disappear off the streets, never to be seen again, again, explicitly a lie. This is not true. But if that were true, would it be morally justified to take up arms against them? Well, before we even have to pose an answer to the hypothetical, we see what maniacs are doing. We see that people believe they have a right to. To obstruct these law enforcement officers physically, to threaten their families, and in this case, to open fire on a government facility. How many, how many ICE facilities were under fire during all four years of Biden? Did it ever happen?
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Buck Sexton
I don't, you know, with a rifle.
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Clay Travis
Like this, I'm not aware of it. And people are starting to see, I think, more Clay as well, that. And this is why I appreciate what Ted Cruz is saying. But this is now the whole game for the left, for the Democrats, is hysteria. They can't climb down from this because to climb down from saying that ICE are fascists is to admit that they were lying. And to admit that they are lying is to further limit their political power. And, you know, this just becomes zero sum for them. So we're in a very dangerous moment here as a country, and they're just making it worse every single day.
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Buck Sexton
Amen. We'll take some of your reactions and certainly as we continue the show, Jim Jordan going to join us. Top of the next hour. Senator Rick Scott. I do think Jim Jordan's discussion we're going to have is important because what we can only do to combat this is call it out. And in order to call it out, you have to have free and fair access to many of the platforms that everybody uses. And we didn't have that on, on YouTube. For a very, very long time. Speaking of violence, been two years since Hamas terrorists murdered more than 1200 innocent Israelis, took 250 hostages before the day was over. In a couple of weekends, there's going to be a special remembrance called Flags of Fellowship, a movement of support for the people of Israel organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The date? Sunday, October 5th, just a couple of weeks away, millions of people across America will plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the victims of October 7, 2023 and their grieving families. To learn how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the fellowship online@ifcj.org Stand up for Israel and join the movement today. That's ifcj.org Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Mic drops that never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We started off talking about the fatal shooting at that ice facility in Dallas. We're going to continue to monitor that closely and, and we'll talk more about the, the rhetoric from Democrats that I think you cannot separate from these actions. And I'll just note this, anytime anything bad happened that they could even begin to pretend had some association with MAGA or Trump ever, it was a all hands on deck effort from the media. And now, of course, we could have videotaped confessions of the terrorists, the left wing terrorists saying, this is why I did it. This is who inspired me. This is why I targeted it. And cnn, they're like, we just, we may never know the motive. I mean, this is the game that they play. They have no ethics, they have no honesty. So I think that's important to keep in mind. We also have the return of Jimmy Kimmel to the air, which we should, we should discuss. He thanked some people on the right for defending him, not me, but some people got thanked and he is back on the air. And I will play some, some of the clips from him and Clay, but I have to say I think it's, it's just not even nearly good enough for me. And I disagree with the notion that this was a big First Amendment win because this was just an ABC corporate decision through and through, and he's already back on the air. So I, you know, I don't know what we're all supposed to be so upset about. The guy's a jerk. He's still saying some jerk things just in A softer voice. And now we're supposed to, what, think that Jimmy Kimmel is going to be nice to people on the right or he's going to be fair to them or try to make jokes? I think this whole thing was unfortunately just a kind of a distraction.
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Buck Sexton
I think that's likely to be. I think that's likely to be the case and I think most people are going to go back to mostly ignoring late night television host. I do think that there is a big story that still needs to be had and a big fight that needs to be had. And I actually think what came out of Google and that we're going to talk about with Jim Jordan at the top of the next hour is far more significant. Because whatever you think of any comedian, their individual power to impact things is small. The power of YouTube, the power of Google to artificially influence the direction of conversation that we have, and frankly to basically make it almost impossible for many media organizations to exist. I mean, I saw this firsthand. That's the real story to me.
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Clay Travis
Well, I mean, but Clay, will there be any. We'll talk to Jim Jordan about this. Will there be any consequences? I think the answer is certainly no. Would they do it again? I think the answer is certainly yes.
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Buck Sexton
That's the concern.
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Clay Travis
So what, what have we them admitting it now? This is why, whether it's delayed motive in the media reporting or delayed acceptance of what the social media companies were happening, delay just avoids accountability. And I think unfortunately Google is gonna continue to be a trillion dollar company with no accountability on this stuff. All right. No matter how safe you think your neighborhood is, home invasions happen about twice a minute nationwide. You want to have the right protection tools to defend yourself and your family. And you can get them from our sponsor, Sabre. Sabre is spelled S A B R e and the website is sabre radio.com Sabre makes the best non lethal protection tools in the business. Start with their pepper spray projectile launchers. They're shaped like a pistol or rifle, depends on the model. And they are so effective at stopping the threat. They've also got a really innovative two in one pepper light. So it's a flashlight. You just want to have that with you whenever you need a flashlight and a pepper spray. So if you're walking outdoors at night, for instance, this is perfect for you. And for the moment you least expect it, you want to be able to protect yourself with Sabre's product. So get set up today. Clay's got them at home, I've got them at home. Sabers, the number one pepper spray trusted by law enforcement. Go to sabreradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com you'll save 15%. Or call 844-824-SAFE.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are gonna dive in. Buck asked a question that I think is actually probably paramount. We're gonna talk about this with Jim Jordan. They shut down. I think we have audio of this and. And I want to play it. I want to make sure that I get the audio right. You guys listen to this show every day. We love you and we thank you and we want to be everywhere that basically audiences are. So we're up on YouTube right now. We hope after the first of the year, we're going to have full video of the show available forever.
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Clay Travis
Maybe YouTube is going to be better to conserve. Maybe I'm not, you know. But we're hoping and we want to reach as many people on YouTube because that's where a lot of the young, up and coming conservatives and just people who want to see things. Right. So it's like I said, Clay, we use all the tools at our disposal.
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Buck Sexton
That's exactly right. This is though, I had the team go back and look because we interviewed sitting senator of the United States Rand Paul about COVID And this was such. So let me take a step back. I ran out kickback. When I ran out kick. We made a lot of money off YouTube. We were firing on all cylinders. Audience was really rolling. We were doing very, very well on YouTube. And then Covid hits. And Covid.
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Clay Travis
Can I just throw this out there too? You were doing a. That was sports. Sports, yes. Like you were a sports guy then. So the idea that you would get in Trouble on YouTube for sports talk is particularly out there. Like I was in the center of the beast, being like defeat the communists. So of course YouTube hated me.
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Buck Sexton
Well, so the YouTube stuff started for us when I had the gall to say, hey, I think we can play sports safely and we should open schools back up. Cause that was the initial entry. Entry point for me, Buck, was I was just a guy doing a sports talk show with no sports going on, who was looking around saying, hey, you guys realize that NFL football is way more dangerous than the COVID virus is, right? Like you're. If you told me right now, Clay, would you rather get Covid or try to take 10 hits in an NFL football game? I might die from the NFL hits. I've had Covid probably 748 times at this point, and I'm fine. And, and, and People were like, oh, you can't say that. This is an unacceptable opinion to have. And so we started to get severely restricted. And then we had President Trump on the show and he said, college football can be played safely and I want all the schools to open up. And suddenly you couldn't find us anymore. Like, we just. Overnight, we basically vanished. And eventually it got to the point where YouTube suspended the outkick show. But on this program, we talked with a sitting United States senator and he's running for reelection. He is a doctor, Rand Paul, we love him from Kentucky. And this is the censorship of the show, I believe this is. Is this the throwback machine? Producer Ali Cut four, cut five is the throwback. This is us talking with Rand Paul. This is January 15, 2022 on this show. YouTube would not allow this. That we're about to play to be posted. Listen, we're joined by Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. Senator, appreciate you joining us. Were you surprised to hear that YouTube would not allow us to post our interview with you? Because that to me is. Is next level crazy. You're a sitting senator, you're a doctor, you came on our show, biggest radio show in the country, to share your opinions as an elected official, and YouTube won't allow us to distribute that conversation.
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Senator Rand Paul
Well, YouTube has a history of censorship and people should quit using them. People should go as far as they can. They should support competitors like rumble.com, they should go to my website, liberty.com, they should listen to your radio program. But we need to quit using these people. We need to quit giving them content. And if they're right, if conservatives left YouTube completely, it'll dwindle. Same with Twitter. These people, if they're going to censor us, we should leave them. I looked back at the interview and the only thing I can see is that one of the things we discussed was whether or not adolescent males have an increased risk of myocarditis. Without question, it's true.
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Clay Travis
Senator Paul, it's Buck. Thanks as always for being with us. I do think that the YouTube policy is still officially, and we had this sent to us by our digital team, that you cannot question the effectiveness of masks, that that is not allowed by YouTube stated guidelines, and that they will shut things down as a result of this. How are we supposed to make sense of it when we have not only you and others who are medical doctors and policy exper who are weighing in on this one, but even some who had been big mask proponents in the past? Whether we're talking about Scott Gottlieb or Lena Wen, both doctors, they've been willing to say masks don't work. So it feels like we're in a very Orwellian world where some people can say that masks don't work or don't work well, but others, like you, can't.
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Senator Rand Paul
This is the foolhardy nature of sort of censorship, or is YouTube now going to censor the CDC? I mean, the CDC has admitted that the cloth masks are ineffective. I believe that's from a CDC website now. So is YouTube going to edit the CDC as well?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Senator Rand Paul
I mean, realize who these bumbling idiots are that are doing the censorship. Sometimes they're like grad students from France or something. I mean, it's people who have no concept of what the real scientific matter is at hand. And it's actually fairly simple that the randomized, controlled studies on cloth masks show they don't work.
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Buck Sexton
Here's my take, Buck. And all that was correct. You couldn't see it on YouTube. And we'll talk about this with Jim Jordan here at the top of the next hour. I think YouTube should have to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of dollars to conservative. And I don't even like the term conservative, because that's not. That's just common sense. Like, hey, it shouldn't have been a political issue of whether you could wear a mask into a restaurant and then you could take it off when you sat down and ate. Like, yes, it became political, but it's nonsense that we even have to. But there should be consequences that are financial in nature, because to your point, otherwise there's nothing to disincentivize them from ever doing this. Well, this.
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Clay Travis
This is why I'm so frustrated with this. And I'll. I'll pose this to Jim Jordan. You know, we. Jim is. Is a great congressman, is also a friend of the show. I. I feel like we get in this habit of, see, we on the right. See, what we were saying was true, and it's been five years, and they got to do whatever they wanted on the other side, and now they're admitting it, and now we all just move on. That was certainly the story of basically everything Covid related. And. And I think, unfortunately, when it comes to online censorship or just censorship in general, that is also the story here now that nobody really cares. YouTube's like, fine, we shut you guys down for saying things that are truthful in terms of payouts. Clay. The part of the. Just the logistical problem with that is, well, they. If they destroyed Your channel. Like, how much money would you have made? You can't really know, right? I mean, you know, what would the algorithm have done in terms of your viewership? You know, how many people would have tuned in that couldn't tune in because you were suspended or whatever? So there's a little too much, I think, extrapolation in the math there. But I do agree that there should be, you know, some form of. I don't know if the word reparations is what we need here, but some form of. Of. Of payment made to people or some form of payment made just even if it's a. A token gesture, because YouTube did all this stuff and it's not like they're sending notes to people now to apologize. I mean, for a lot of people, this was. You were talking about when you were running outkick and it was a company. But for a lot of people or individual. Individual creators or, you know, smaller shows, maybe the two or three grand they were making on YouTube was really significant to help them pay their bills because there was an audience there that wanted their content. And YouTube just said, no, you're not a mask freak. You don't want to double mask in the shower like Fauci says, and put your N95 on when you're in the car alone. So we're going to shut you down again. This is where they say, oh, well, YouTube has a right to do it.
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Senator Rand Paul
It.
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Clay Travis
They were doing it at the direction of the government. Which brings me to this is the biggest first amendment violation we've ever seen. Not little Jimmy Kimmel crying into his millions for a couple of days.
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Buck Sexton
And by the way, it wasn't just Google, which owns YouTube, which was doing it across all of its platforms. Facebook, TikTok, Facebook, everybody did it. And I took you behind the curtain a little bit yesterday. It led to. You're saying, okay, what were the consequences, Clay? They wouldn't air my show live because they were suspending the YouTube channel of Outkick to such an extent that they would go in and I said, I'm not going to change what I'm saying, because to their credit, Twitter, we would simulcast the show, would actually do it live on Twitter. And Twitter didn't restrict us, to my knowledge. But I said, I'm not going to restrict myself. They wouldn't tape it. It go back in, edit out anything that I said about the COVID shot being worthless or mask being worthless or kids needing to be back in school or we can play sports so that the show could actually go up in some form or fashion without us being completely banned. And Buck, what I would like to see, and I don't know that this organization exists, maybe. Maybe I need to found it. What I would like to see is an organization that the ACLU used to be, that's actually committed to. Let's have robust, uninhibited debate in this country, and let's actually give the financial resources to people that are being shut down. To your point, Buck, two or three grand for somebody at YouTube that is starting. And I've been there can be the difference between I'm able to do this for a living and I'm not. So when they grab you and they. They basically curtail your distribution, then they can destroy your entire company. And I want to be able to provide. And I think it's a significant thing that we need an organization to actually stand up for the little guy or gal out there who is being artificially curtailed. And I just come back to, if there are no consequences, then what have you actually learned from being wrong?
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Clay Travis
Well, this is where I come down on the YouTube. I don't view this as some great story that we knew this. What we said was true. It was true all along. Was true about COVID It was true when we said they were censoring over Covid. Also on election stuff, too. 2020 election stuff. Not allowed to talk about that. And this is. I don't view this as some victory for the right. There's no now and then. You could say, well, then why you guys are saying you want to build up the YouTube? Yeah, because if we can get a million. A million people a day to watch us on YouTube for the next three years before we get shut down again, that helps in the broader. The broader discussion for the future of the country to reach as many people as we can with what we believe is the truth and they need to hear on this show. But, Clay, it's. This is why we need to still have all the various platforms that we can use. Fortunately, we have radio. And fortunately, by the way, you and me were able to say what we wanted to say and speak the truth on radio uninterrupted and without, you know.
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Buck Sexton
Thanks to radio at iHeart, who deserve a lot.
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Clay Travis
This was the real free speech platform, radio. And, you know, radio is there for people when there's a natural disaster. It's like the radio is the one thing that works, you know, the AM band, FM band, the one. The things that work for you. And radio during COVID was my salvation. I got shut down on YouTube, on TikTok, on Facebook, on everything. But I was able to speak for three hours a day. And some of you were listening to me then and telling you in April, in May of 2020. This is insane. People have lost their minds. They're throwing out all the science and saying it's science. And never once, never once was I pulled off the radio for any of that. So Radi. And it was all true. So that was good. It's helpful to be right when you're doing a free speech thing. So this is, this is a big thing though, because they'll do it again. They haven't changed at all. And which I think, Clay, the problem you brought up, the aclu, the left in its heart and soul, ideologically in this country, first of all, I would argue that they were always working to chip away at what they thought was the dominant paradigm in this country. And there was always a little bit of a left wing agenda in a lot of these civil liberties organizations. But put that aside now. The left has no pretense at all of free speech. They don't even, they don't care. It's just we get to say what we want and we get to boot heel you in the face when you say things we don't want. And those are the rules. Those are the rules the Democrats want. They don't even pretend otherwise. That's why they want hate speech laws in place. That's why they want social media platforms to work at the behest of the government when the government's in charge. And then when the government is in charge on our side of it, it's, oh my gosh, the First Amendment, the First Amendment, they have not changed at all. And they're going to continue to do this. So we should just recognize that one.
- [37:12]
Buck Sexton
Positive, since we had a lot of negatives all in a row there.
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Clay Travis
Sorry. But it was all true.
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Buck Sexton
It was all true. I do think that's why Elon bought Twitter and I think this is why Larry Ellison has bought CBS and potentially that's why they're buying TikTok. I think a lot of these people out there that weren't even particularly political. Remember, Elon voted for Biden in 2020. I know everybody's like, oh, Elon's a right wing idiot. He voted for Hillary. Like he's just seen. And to a certain extent, what I saw, that this is broken and we have to fix it.
- [37:44]
Clay Travis
Clay, the corporate media made it mandatory, like mandatory religious observance that you go all in on the trans Agenda and that you go all in on the blm. Black men are murdered by cops out of racism with no consequence. These are lies. I mean, this is crazy stuff. Those were mandatory at places like CBS News, mandatory at cnn. That's insane.
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Buck Sexton
It is absolutely insane. Uh, you know what else is insane? Not playing along with us on prize Picks. I'm gonna give you a pick tomorrow. We've won two out of three. Props to the guys and gals at prize picks, by the way. They built such a great business. It just sold for $4.15 billion. I. I mean, I love these guys. They're. They're big friends of mine. They're sponsors of the program. We have a lot of fun playing their games, but this is the American dream. You got a bunch of people out there who said, hey, we're going to found a new business, and it's only a few years old, and it just sold for over $4 billion because they have made sports a little bit more fun than sports otherwise would have been. And so, look, I love playing along with them. I hope you want to play along with us. We were just talking about standing up for what you believe. These guys said, hey, we want to appeal to everybody. We like Clay, we like Buck. We want to be on their show. Go to Price picks right now. Use my name clay. You get $50 when you play $5. That is, you play $5. Just pick more or less your favorite athletes. Major league baseball, Mets. Little wobbly. Little wobbly out there. New York, congrats. The Yankees making the playoffs. You love major league baseball. Major league baseball. Playoffs soon to be underway. NFL underway. College football underway. Ryder Cup Going on this with maybe the greatest weekend we've seen ever in sports. I mean, I. I think there's an argument for it. You can play all along on prize picks. You can play in California, Texas, Florida, Georgia. When you download the prize picks app. Use my name clay. You get $50 when you play. $5. We'll give you a pick tomorrow for an epic weekend in sports. That's pricepix.com congrats to them. Use my name Clay. $50 when you play. $5. Want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast. Drop highlights from the week, Sundays at noon eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're taking calls here. Don is driving his truck through Nashville. Our truckers, we love them. What's going on, Don?
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Caller Don
How you doing? Clay and Buck, how's it going?
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Buck Sexton
We're fantastic man.
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Caller Don
Thank you for taking my call. I appreciate it, Clay. I'm waving a hand as we go by.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you.
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Caller Don
I'd like to start off my call with expressing my sincerest condolences to Charlie's entire family, especially his wife, mother, father and children. But I want to call out Gavin Newsom for exemplifying what fascism is saying, that he doesn't believe that we're going to have the next next election for president because, well, because he thinks there's a fascist in charge. Yet wasn't it the Democrats that the last three election cycles didn't even allow their own party to name their candidate?
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Clay Travis
Well, Don, let me just say you are a first class Klay and Buck listener because we're going to talk about that Gavin Newsom statement and also his comments on ICE coming up in a moment here. So we're going to be having that discussion and we've got also Jim Jordan I know is going to be joining us. So we'll talk to Jim Jordan. But I will tell you something as well, everybody. I was reading my Kamala memoir last night.
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