Hour 1 - Bet on America

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Hour 1 - Bet on America
Date: August 4, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the theme of "betting on America"—finding optimism and opportunity amid turbulent political climates and media pessimism. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton break down current political stories, notably pivotal primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin, the rise of more extreme left-wing candidates in purple states, and the contrasting message of confidence in America's economic and cultural prospects. The hosts approach each topic with their trademark blend of political analysis, biting humor, and direct listener engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Michigan and Wisconsin Primaries: The Rise of the Far Left

[01:11-05:03]

• Clay Travis introduces the importance of Michigan's primary day, focusing on:
  • Haley Stevens vs. Abdul El Sayed (D) and likely Republican Mike Rogers for Senate.
  • The Republican gubernatorial primary, with John James favored.
  • Observes a national trend: progressive or "socialist" Democratic candidates are emerging as party favorites even in battleground states.
  • Francesca Hong (WI) called “one of the craziest potential major party nominees...in a very long time.”

[14:15-16:52]

• Clay and Buck debate what the nomination of far-left candidates suggests:
  • Clay posits that picking “crazy left wingers” in purple states could backfire, making races “very winnable” for Republicans like Mike Rogers.
  • Buck is less optimistic, warning that these candidates are more competitive than many realize, and the Democratic base is “willing to bet on them, even in purple states."

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Economic Optimism: Bet on America, Not Doomsaying

[05:03-07:57]

• Clay Travis touts record-high stock prices, reflecting on his own past market advice:

  • “Never before have your 401ks, your stock holdings, been more valuable... S&P 500 surging... Dow Jones at an all-time record high.”
  • “Things are very positive out there when it comes to stock market prices.” (Clay, 02:00)
  • Reminds listeners they advised “buying stocks” during last year's market dip—contrary to the expert doomsayers.
  • "Bet on America" theme: holding or investing in American markets is a winning long-term play.

• Buck Sexton echoes Clay's optimism but is skeptical about crypto:

  • Notes Bitcoin is “down 50% from its high. Bitcoiners are having a rough one. I’ve never been a crypto person...” (Buck, 05:30)
  • Asserts, “America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period. Full stop. It’s not even close... It’s a smart bet.” (Buck, 07:28)
  • Warns that if “bet on America” doesn’t pan out, there’ll be much bigger problems than financial ones: “If the treasury bond becomes worthless, you’re going to care about how much drinkable water and ammunition you have, truly.” (Buck, 07:58)

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The “Race Communism” Trend and Identity Politics

[08:42-14:13]

• The hosts dissect statements by Francesca Hong (WI) and broader Dem candidate rhetoric:
  • Clip from Francesca Hong [09:45–10:31]: Calls Thanksgiving a “racist holiday” that’s “incredibly painful for many people in our communities.”
  • Clay ridicules the answer: “This is one of the worst answers I’ve ever heard... Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an incredibly difficult time for them?” (Clay, 10:31)
  • Buck: “She is a race communist... Everything has to be seen through this lens of race... It is an excuse for constant agitation and self-victimization.” (Buck, 12:13)
  • They note this identity politics approach could alienate swing-state voters—Democrats pushing identity-based politics risk nominating unelectable candidates.

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America’s Founding, Immigration, and the Politics of Victimhood

[23:07-32:16]

• Play and analyze Abdul El Sayed’s remarks, which frame America's founding as being compromised by racism and exclusion.
• Buck notes immigration history, especially how new arrivals adopt “aggrieved” identity frameworks:
  • "It is fascinating to me to watch non-white immigrants to America adopt this framework where they are aggrieved in a way that is specific and unique to the black American experience." (Buck, 27:45)
  • “Instead of gratitude, you give us lectures... about how this place is so racist.” (Buck, 28:18)
• Clay argues Democratic allegiance to identity politics alienates voters and undermines a culture of merit and resilience.

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On Jewish Identity and the Impact of Left-Wing Identity Politics

[32:16-35:09]

• Buck: “The American left just views [Israel-Hamas] as a white versus brown struggle…What they don’t understand is that they actually are going to be under constant pressure and threat from the identity politics framework, from this race communism that you and I talk about.” (Buck, 32:16)
• Clay underscores that post–October 7, even “historic Democrats” from the Jewish community are learning:
  • “Even though the brown people showed up, stormed your gates... they’re seen as white as Jews. And so you’re white. You have to be the bad guy.” (Clay, 35:09)

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On Political Revolutions Turning on Their Own

[35:09-36:06]

• Buck shares a cautionary historical perspective:
  • Cites the Khmer Rouge and French Revolution:
  • "The revolution devours its children. This is what happens. The left need to wake up." (Buck, 36:06)
  • Clay: "Robespierre didn’t… Didn’t end well for him. Go back and read about the French Revolution...eventually…the revolution turns on you, too." (Clay, 36:06)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Don’t listen to the pannikins out there. Don’t allow yourself to be motivated by emotion here…At a minimum, hold onto your stocks. If you have extra money on the side, this would be a good time to buy.”
  — Clay Travis, on market optimism and long-term investing (03:30)

• “America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period. Full stop. It’s not even close.”
  — Buck Sexton, on the strength of the American economy (07:28)

• “She is a race communist…Everything has to be seen through this lens of race.”
  — Buck Sexton, on Francesca Hong and the rise of identity politics (12:13)

• “Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an incredibly difficult time for them? …I’ve never actually heard anyone make the argument that Thanksgiving should be canceled.”
  — Clay Travis, questioning the culture war narrative (10:31)

• “If your bet on America fails, you’re not even going to care that you bet on America…If the treasury bond becomes worthless, you’re going to care about how much drinkable water and ammunition you have, truly.”
  — Buck Sexton, on existential versus financial risk (07:58)

• “The revolution devours its children. This is what happens. The left need to wake up.”
  — Buck Sexton, on the inherent danger of revolutionary movements and extremism (36:06)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:11 – Michigan and Wisconsin primaries breakdown
• 03:30 – Stock market optimism and Clay's advice
• 05:30 – Buck on crypto skepticism
• 07:28 – "Bet on America" theme
• 09:45 – Clip: Francesca Hong on canceling Thanksgiving
• 12:13 – Buck labels Francesca Hong a "race communist"
• 14:15 – Tie-in between primary results and national political trends
• 23:07 – Trump on Michigan Dems: “communist vs. socialist”
• 27:45 – Buck on immigrants and the victimhood narrative
• 32:16 – Israel, Jewish identity, and leftist politics
• 35:09 – Communist revolutions devouring their own

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Tone and Style

The show maintains a conversational, sometimes combative, and highly opinionated style. Clay often frames narratives with sharp skepticism of leftist policies, while Buck oscillates between dry humor, historical insight, and warnings about the risks of complacency among conservatives. The discussion is richly colored by references to current events, past predictions, and the hosts' long-running engagement with their political foes and audience alike.

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Conclusion

In this episode, Clay and Buck lay out a case for optimistic investment in America's future—economically and culturally—even as they warn of the dangers posed by identity politics and leftist radicalism, especially in battleground states. Their confident "bet on America" message is juxtaposed with genuine concern about the traction of radical candidates in key races, culminating in a potent mix of hope and vigilance geared towards their audience of political conservatives and swing-state voters alike.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome and we are rolling with the Tuesday edition of the Clay and Buck Show. A lot of big stories to follow. We have got Michigan primary day Haley Stevens going up against Abdul El Sayed on the Democrat side. They will face on the Republican side Mike Rogers and Abdul Aldoyad is right now buck a 98% according to the prediction markets to win. Which means the far left wing candidate is likely to be picked today by Michiganders and that will then lead to I believe a very winnable race for Mike Rogers. Uh, also Republicans selecting their GOP nominee for governor John James is favored in that race to be the Republican nominee. That is an open seat after Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out. So we will be talking some about the fact that that is going on and what the significance of the Michigan primary vote could tell us about how popular the Democrat socialists are outside of places like Los Angeles, New York certainly and other big blue locales. What is going to play in a purple state? We've got a crazy Speaking of purple states, we've got a Francesca Hong who is emerging as one of the craziest potential major party nominees that we have seen in a very long time as she is favored to be the Democrat nominee in the state of Michigan. And a little bit of a panic is starting to set in there Buck. Super positive right off the top record high stock prices as I am talking to all of you this morning. Never before have your 401ks have your stock holdings been more valuable s and P500 surging to as we speak, a new all time record high. We also have the Dow Jones at an all time record high. And Buck, just tooting our own horn a little bit here. Back in April of 2025, which wasn't very long ago, the economic geniuses of the expert class told all of us that the economy was headed for a recession and things were going to collapse. At that point in time, the S&P 500 had dropped to around 5,000. On this program last year in April we said, hey, it's probably a good time to buy stocks. Don't listen to the pannikins out there. Don't allow yourself to be motivated by emotion here. At a minimum, hold on to your stocks. If you have extra money on the side, this would be a good time to buy. Stock prices up nearly 3,000 points in the S&P 500 since that day. Well over 50% returned just in the past year. Now what is the stock market going to do on a day to day basis? Nobody knows. But over time you're going to make about 10% a year in S P 500 index funds. And if you are a stockholder, if you have retirement accounts, if you have a 401k, if you have opened a Trump account for your young children out there, as many of you have grandchildren and as well like Buck did for his own one year old, it is a good time to be invested in America. Things are very positive out there when it comes to stock market prices as we begin the show today. So a lot of positivity for you, Buck. Is that, is that setting off your, your negativity alarm bells? Is that too much, too much positive news right out of the gate here?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I'm hearing people say that the Texas Senate seat is going to be competitive, Clay, I'm hearing crazy talk. By the way, we have Ken Paxton joining us. Yes, that's what we call a tease in the business. We have Ken Paxton joining us to dispel these rumors, although he does want as many of you to show up as possible for that Senate race to vote for him. But he, I'm sure is going to give us a different take than what the Democrat media has been saying about that race. We've got the Michigan Senate race today. We have the Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate who is a total whack job, okay. A really Looney Tunes level candidate. And she is, she could win. She well could be the next governor of Wisconsin. And obviously that affects what is a very important A critical toss up purple state for the next election cycle for president. Plus more people talking about Clay's $10 million WNBA offer. So we have. We have a lot of things to get to. I also know. Thank you for joining us for the live stream yesterday. Sorry the live stream didn't get so live, but we do have on YouTube a special with our friend Aaron Wexler. By the way, her name is spelled A R, Y, N, N, E. And she wants. She says her only request, Clay, is for our audience to follow her on Facebook. I said, really? Facebook? She said, yes, please follow Aaron Wexler on Facebook. But it's a great interview. We talked her for a while after the show. You should go check that out on YouTube. That's the place to find it, because we continued the show after the show. Now, Clay, I. Now it is dealer's choice. By the way, it's very true that the stock market is super high. It is a moment where I think it's worth reminding people, by the way, Bitcoin down 50% from its high. Bitcoiners are having a rough one. I have never been some people. Here's what I don't want to make this divert our segment here into crypto talk. I've never been a crypto person. I owned a little bit for a short period of time. It went up and I sold it because I fundamentally don't. I'm not a believer. And I think the fact that you're even using terms like belief, like people out there are saying they are crypto believers. When it's about your money and it's about investing, you should be able to explain why you're in it, why it makes sense, and why, you know, what you just said, Clay, Bet on America. This is really straightforward. America is the greatest wealth generation machinery ever on the planet, period. Full stop. It's not even close. So you're betting on the horse that has won more races than any other horse ever. Right. I think that's a pretty safe place to be. Doesn't mean it's going to necessarily pan out, but it's a smart bet. Uh, a lot of the stuff that people have been sold on with the doomerism out there of say, oh, my gosh, we're going to have a total collapse and everything else of our. Of our economy and of the dollar, and they rush into this crypto stuff.

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[Buck Sexton]

I'm not a believer. So I just. Clay, I just want to reiterate what you reiterate what you're saying, which is bet on America. Because if you're bet on America fails, you're not even going to care that you bet on America. You're going to have other problems. You're going to, the world is going to be in a scary, scary place. Trust me. You know, if the treasury bond becomes worthless, it's not going to, you're going to, you're going to care about how much drinkable water and how much ammunition you have, truly. So with that in mind, Clay, I would say also AI is going to increasingly become very positive and productive for all of us. And that's a really good thing. So I'm taking some of your positivity and then I am turning it into the reality of some of these lunatics out there. I'm going to, I'm going to do this as artfully as I can.

[Clay Travis]

I think we should play I saw this and I shared it. And I do think that this is a representative sample jumping in because I'm pulling up the same quotes that you are. This is, this is, I think, indicative of how crazy this Franchesca Hong candidate is for Democrats. She's going to be their nominee for governor. And she went on with Caitlyn Collins last night on cnn. And Caitlyn, she said, Francesca Hong did that Thanksgiving should be canceled and it was a racist holiday and we should not celebrate it anymore. This is what the Democrat candidate for Wisconsin governor said. Buck, here she is. Cut eight. Kaitlan Collins said, hey, you said this crazy thing in the past. Would you now like to say maybe canceling Thanksgiving not the right way to go? Listen to this Kamala Harris word salad esque answer where she basically says, yeah, I mean it. Cut 8. Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled?

[Francesca Hong]

I'm a chef and one of the first meals that I made that was for the community when I was 16 was a Thanksgiving meal. Now, I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant for seven, eight years that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and build community is always a good thing. But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. And so, so I think there, I wanted to make sure that people understood that there are multiple views, but views can evolve. And the position that I'm running for right now and I think my background as a chef will actually help me become a better governor that's able to bring more people to the table.

[Clay Travis]

This is one of the worst answers I've ever heard. First of all, Buck and I will open this up. 800-282-2882. Have you ever heard anyone say that Thanksgiving is an incredibly difficult time for them? And I don't mean when you've had a lost loved one in your family and you're sitting at the table and you're thinking, man, a lot of times holidays can be difficult because of lost family members, lost friends. That is not what I'm talking about. That Thanksgiving itself is a traumatic experience because of American. I've legitimately never heard anyone actually say this. I'm just curious. Have you? Like, I feel like I know a lot of left wing people. I've never actually heard anyone make the argument that Thanksgiving should be canceled. I, I never heard that.

[Buck Sexton]

She's taking what's usually the Columbus Day argument.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Which is we need to weep for the, the indigenous people, the pre Columbian people living in the Stone Age as they were. The literal Stone Age, I might add, in terms of technology. So we are supposed to weep for them. And that is one thing I've never heard somebody say. Thanksgiving is problematic. Although Clay, in a twist of irony, it is people like Francesca Hong Kong who make Thanksgiving painful by saying incredibly stupid left wing things at the table about Thanksgiving. So we have now actually brought this full circle.

[Clay Travis]

Do you think that she got Thanksgiving and Columbus Day confused initially when she was saying cancel Thanksgiving? Because I do think that she might just not be aware that Thanksgiving is typically not canceled. And I do love the fact that she tried to pivot to I'm a chef, as if that's what I want

[Buck Sexton]

to say is now if anyone asks me like, what do you think? Do you think Thanksgiving is problematic? The same way they do with the biologists and trans be like, well, I'm not a chef, so I can't have a view on Thanksgiving. You know, I'm not a professional. Clay, she is a race communist. There's actually a very good essay. I was up last night reading it and I want to give credit for it that I read. I think it was in Tablet magazine, but I have to track it down. Team, help me find it. Very good essay. Just delving into how race communism, which started really just more as a kind of a catch all pejorative for left wing idiocy online. I use it though, knowing quite a bit about the history of actual communism. And this author, she did the same thing. That is what we are seeing. It is race instead of class infused in every policy, in every action and every thought of government, of society. And it can never be fixed. It can. There is no right. So it's a it's an excuse for constant agitation and constant self victimization, the pretense of victimization. And Francesca Hong of Wisconsin is a race communist. That is her ideology. So everything has to be seen through this lens of race. And what's fascinating is that the race communists are coming, you know, coming about now in this country at a time when there are so many different races and new arrivals here as well that how are they piling into the history of, you know, oppression in America or the Native Americans? You know this Francesca Hong, I'm going to go out on a limb here. Is her parentage Asian or you know, she have Asian background? I'm going to take a guess.

[Clay Travis]

She care about like Mao's murder of

[Buck Sexton]

60 million people in her country? Does that ever? No, only the Iroquois. She weeps for the Iroquois, not her grandparents generation who were probably being murdered by Chinese communists and by Mao. So you know, I think we're seeing how this is completely spiraling into nonsense and absurdity. But also a lot of they're clear, a lot of believers she might become the governor.

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[Buck Sexton]

So it's two sided.

[Clay Travis]

This is where I think this ties in with the primary that's going on in Michigan today. Because I think Democrats in their anger and in their far left wing leadership of the socialist are potentially leading their party off a cliff and they may be nominating people that cannot win in purple states.

[Buck Sexton]

Why do you think after Mamdani became the most powerful prominent Democrat in the whole country after winning the mayorship of the biggest city in America, being an abject race Communist loon. Why do you think that like this

[Clay Travis]

woman's probably going to be the governor. New York City is probably an 80, 20 Democrat locale. Michigan and Wisconsin is a 50, 50 state. So I think the moderate voters who ultimately decide these elections, remember Trump won Michigan, he won Wisconsin. Ron Johnson, our buddy, is capable of getting elected in Wisconsin. I think that New York City is crazy. And this is actually where I would argue my suggestion that by picking a crazy left winger and it might actually lead New York City off the deep end but be utterly destructive for the Democrat Party overall. So I'm optimistic that what works in New York City is not going to work in Wisconsin and Michigan. If Mamdani, like candidates like Hong and El Sayed win in Michigan and Wisconsin, then I will start to hit the panic button here because it would suggest that a candidate like that can win nationwide.

[Buck Sexton]

But that's what I'm telling you. I think they're competitive. Clay. I don't I don't think they're, I don't think they're a joke. Even in Michigan or Wisconsin, I think, I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, it's going to come down to two or three points either way in a 50, 50 state. But I don't think Hong will win and I don't think Elsa yet.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, but shouldn't it be, shouldn't it be a little alarming to you that 48% of Wisconsinites might vote for a race communist? You may be right, but you're talking about a goal line stand. Like this is something to celebrate.

[Clay Travis]

This is not, this is not ideal. But if they had nominated a normal Democrat, I think Wisconsin would win. The Democrats would win Wisconsin and I think they would win Michigan. I think they may lose both over the choices that they're making, which I do think are Mom Donnie influenced but don't play as well there as they do in New York City.

[Buck Sexton]

I like this. You're gonna have to keep this optimism up because I am very concerned about the midterms.

[Clay Travis]

Very concerned.

[Buck Sexton]

So you're gonna be our optimistic guy.

[Clay Travis]

I was not concerned about 24 for these nominees.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I told you guys almost ex years ago. Trump is going to, Trump is going to absolutely kick ass in the 24 election. We are going to smoke these fools. They are toast. Kamala has no chance. I am very worried about this midterm. I will just tell you right now, I am, I am highly concerned. I'm just expressing concern. I want the messaging to be good. I want things to be good. Going into it. By the way, the piece was the racial Crossroads Compact Mag, not tablet mag, compact mag.com by Helen Andrews. Very much worth reading. We could put it up on maybe clayandbuck.com to make it easy for you to find. Now, the best reviewed cell phone service in America is now on sale. Switch to PureTalk. The first 90 days are just $15 a month. Just last month an independent study put PureTalk at the top of a list of big wireless companies. They beat out att, Verizon and T Mobile in the process. They're the only wireless company to receive five stars in every category surveyed. Coverage, support, value and data. So why not have 5 star cell phone service from PureTalk for a limited time? Any plan including their top shelf unlimited data plans for are just $15 a month for your first three months. The average family of four saves over $1,000 a year versus big wireless. No contract needed. You keep your phone and your number. PureTalk has a dedicated US customer service team that makes the whole process of switching easy. Just dial £250 from your cell phone and say Clay and buck. Again, dial £250, say Clay and Buck.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay and Buck, rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program Michiganders Voting right now. We'll come back and talk a little bit about that decision that they have. Haley Stevens vs. Abdul El Sayed and Megan Kelly weighing in, encouraging me to get the WNBA franchise bought the Nashville Balls and be the most inclusive team out there. So many of you reacting to that. We have some awesome talkbacks and clips on that as well. Plus David Ellison, who's trying to buy Warner Brothers. We've talked a little bit about this. I love these media battles. He has a New York Times editorial where he says all the blue states are suing him because they're terrified of him just having a fair and balanced cnn. We will talk about all that more. In the meantime, I want to tell you about our friends at the ifcj. America stood by Israel as a government and a people. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews was established in America decades ago. They operate on the ground in Israel every day, providing food for struggling families, emergency assistance, bomb shelters, critical support for those impacted by war. The Fellowships committed to Israel's most vulnerable, but they also operate in other war torn countries like the Ukraine. I witnessed firsthand the impact your donations to the IFCJ can have when I traveled to Israel a couple of years ago after October 7th Hamas attacks. Nothing short of a remarkable trip to be able to see the pure evil that took place on the ground that day. You can join me and Buck and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and praying for the people of [e-mail] that's pray ifcj.org Clay, a born and

[Buck Sexton]

raised son of Nashville me, a Manhattan kid. Now I'm in South Florida. Clay stayed there, but he also has he, he spends a lot of time in Florida. I've been to Michigan, Clay, I think twice, maybe three times, have not spent a lot of time in Michigan, have never been to Detroit, which is definitely a, a, you know, a thing that I need to ameliorate. But Michigan statewide, so you can weigh in on, you know, all things Michigander for us here. Michigan statewide primary today, just a few things. The governor, he got an open seat because incumbent governor, I'm sorry, incumbent Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer is term limited out. I will say we can put a pin in this for our conversation here. Some of our Michigan listeners, we have some very robust, very robust Michigan audience. They say that we're not factoring in Whitmer enough for VP talk specifically, which I think is is fair. So we can return to that. But in the Republican primary, you got John James, Perry, Johnson, Michael Cox. They're on the bat, but Cox is on the ballot and so is this other guy. He's suspended. They suspended though. So really it's the main thing here is you've got that governor's race and then you've got the Senate race. And in the Senate race, some very interesting stuff going on here. I think Trump put it well, Clay, why don't we let Trump set the table here on the Michigan Senate primary for the Democrats, this is cut 13. Play it well.

[Joel Osteen (voiceover/announcer)]

You have a very interesting group. Who I really voted for is Mike Rogers because I think he's going to be a great senator. But you have a communist versus a socialist. That's the way I look at it. You have a communist versus a socialist. It looks like the communist is leading. We're talking about for the Democrat primary, but for the Republican, you have a very good man and he should be able to, he should be able to

[Buck Sexton]

win a communist versus a socialist. Mike Rogers up against them. Here is the communist in that equation. Clay Abdul al said cut 14. Listen to this. On the removal of a whole people founded on the idea that we could compromise on whether or not people as

[Clay Travis]

a function of the color of their skin could be enslaved by other people. Founded under the idea that all people

[Buck Sexton]

are created equal, all men. But that only meant certain men and nominated. Yeah, it doesn't sound like this guy loves America. At least the the ideals of the founding. He thinks that America is all about racism. Abdul El Sayed, like I said about the race communists, I would Wonder how long Mr. Abdul Al Said's family has been in this country that they have had to suffer so much of the racism of 200 years ago. But what make you of this primary as it stands?

[Clay Travis]

Good, sir, Abdul El Sayed is going to win. Mike Rogers vs. Abdul El Sayed is going to be one of the most impactful of all Senate races coming up this fall. And I think Mike Rogers will have a very good chance to win. Now, couple of things that are important. I don't believe Team, you can correct me on this if I'm wrong. I don't believe Michigan has elected a Republican statewide in the Senate since 1996. Mike Rogers lost by around 15,000 votes in 2024. Obviously Trump won the state of Michigan, if I'm remembering correctly, by around 50,000 votes in a very close race. Couple of things that are going to play in here and I do know the state of Michigan well because my wife is from Michigan. I had never been to Michigan before I started dating her. So I have since been to Michigan a ton. But I would be a bit like you, Buck, if I hadn't happened to meet Laura. I imagine that I would not have been to Michigan. I would not know that Northern Michigan in the summer is one of the greatest places on the planet. I would not certainly have gotten engaged in northern Michigan and married in Michigan. So all of those things. My wife Laura still has a ton of family that is up in southeast Michigan, so we spend a lot of time there. So I feel like I know the state pretty well within the context of that. And certainly my wife knows the state very, very well having been born and raised there. Here is what is unique about Michigan. There is a huge the largest Arab population as a percentage of the overall population is in the Detroit area, Dearborn in particular. Trump actually won a huge percentage of those votes in 2024 because they did not respond well to Kamala Harris. They those votes presumably will all go to Abdul El Sayed. There is also a huge Jewish population in the suburbs of Detroit, in the Oakland county area in particular. And the question that will be paramount there is who what will happen with that vote in, in the Jewish vote Here's another part of this buck. The black voting bloc has not responded at all well to Abdul El Sayed. In fact, Haley Stevens is getting overwhelming percentages of the black vote. How will Abdul El Sayed be able to bring in large numbers of black voters? And then here is what I think is going to be incredibly key. In addition to the Jewish, the black vote. I cannot imagine that Abdul El Sayed will play at all very well in the northern parts of Michigan which are overwhelmingly red. Overwhelmingly vote Trump. Will they show up in an off cycle election without Trump on the ballot? This is why to me this race is going to be one of the most fascinating to watch in the entire country, if not the most fascinating race to watch in the entire country. So I think that's an analysis.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, no, I think that was good. I think that was high level radio. Well done. Sir, if I may say, I would just point us for a second back to Abdul Al Sayed because I mused aloud, remember he's talking about how the founding of America was all about racism. And this is just, he's giving a speech and he's talking about how it's all about effectively white supremacy. White people, white people are bad. White people have done all these bad things. Abdul Al Sayed's parents came here from Egypt. He has, they have no experience of the, you know, the legacy of slavery. They are not black. They were not institutionally oppressed by this country. All real things.

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[Buck Sexton]

It, it is fascinating to me to watch non white immigrants to America adopt this framework where they are aggrieved in a way that is specific and unique to the black American experience. In fact, our entire racial spoil system was one, set up to be temporary, as it ended up being somewhat temporary. But two clay, it was for the descendants of slaves.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

People who could point to this country did something immoral and wrong to, to my grandfather, my great great grandfather, et cetera. Now we can talk about how that, you know, when do you decide that enough is enough? And what about people born today? And why should people being, you know, I still, I oppose actually affirmative action always and forever because it will just create more problems. But put that aside for a moment. The son of Egyptian immigrants to America, I would be willing to bet because they went through quite a lot to get here, that his Egyptian immigrant parents loved coming here and had a better life here than they ever would have in Egypt. I'm going to tell you something, just going to help you guys skip to the end here. Egypt, not so great. I've spent time There really dysfunctional. And, and the streets are very dirty. You see the pyramids and you'll have a million people trying to scam you at the pyramid. It's not fun. Okay, Egypt, yeah, there's some nice, there's nice parts of almost every country except for like North Korea and Somalia. But Egypt, you can skip it. I'm sure they were very happy to come here. Ok. And Clay, why does he adopt this narrative, though in public of America rooted in all this bad stuff? It's rooted in all this bad stuff. But your family won the lottery, maybe literally in the sense of an immigration lottery, but your family won the lottery and being able to come here and instead of gratitude, you give us lectures. You give lectures to the American people about how this place is so racist.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, all of that I co sign with. Here's why he's doing it, Buck. Because Democrats have convinced themselves this is how you get black voters to show up. And Abdul Al Sayed is deeply behind with black voters right now in the primary because James Clyburn and other black elected officials decided to endorse Haley Stevens because they think Abdul El Sayed is not electable in Michigan. So this is the look, this is the root evil, I would say, of many Democrat party ideas is they are all directly connected to the concept of identity politics as a guiding principle for every single decision that you need to make. Right. It's the oppression pyramid. Everything that occurs in the United States is seen through the prism of who is the bigger victim and that, that determines everything. And Buck, this is where I saw sports going and this is why I, I, I got so frustrated. It got to the point where you couldn't say, hey, I don't think this quarterback is good if he was black. Certainly Rush experienced this because he got fired 20 years ago for talking about this. You can't criticize an athlete because of his race. Or you can't criticize the WNBA because it's a black lesbian league. Because immediately left wingers line up and say, oh, the reason why you're criticizing that is rooted in identity politics. When ultimately America is a meritocratic country. The best man or the best woman should win. Not the best man pretending to be a woman. But that should apply across all of society. And so I don't think Abdul El Sayed believes this. This is the part that is particularly frustrating, I think, to your point. He and many other recent first generation immigrants understand better than anyone the promise of America, but they feel compelled as Democrat officials to not sell the promise of America. They have to sell the peril. They have to sell the victimized cultural landscape. And really, I know we got a lot of black listeners to us right now. This, to me, is what has led to the emasculation of many black men, because they're actually being told by the Democrat Party, you can't succeed in this country because the country is aligned against you, and when you teach weakness, you get weakness back as a result.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I actually think this goes back. This goes back to the race communism piece in Compact Mag that I mentioned. And we'll invite. It's Helen Andrews. We'll invite her on to talk about it because she goes through. I will say our analysis here, Clay, about the Israel Hamas thing was ahead of its time insofar as the American left just views it as a white versus brown struggle. American Muslims and Muslims around the world view it as a Jewish Muslim issue. But in this country, it's white and brown. And what? White American Jews who are leftists, not conservative Jews, they already know this. What they don't understand is that they actually are going to be under constant pressure and threat from the identity politics framework, from this race communism that you and I talk about. This is. That's why the Scott Galloway thing, I think, hit with so many people where he's like, what do you mean? I support your Marxist redistribution. It's like, scott, you're rich and white. They don't like you. They'll use you now. But you're a rich, white Jewish guy, and eventually they are taking you. Is he Jewish? I thought he was Jewish. I could be wrong.

[Clay Travis]

He's male. Got to put the male part in there.

[Buck Sexton]

He's rich and white.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. I made, I made a joke about this a while back that it's like the worst. I was been a poor white guy my whole life. I've only gotten rich in the past couple of years. I didn't know that I was.

[Buck Sexton]

He is Jewish, by the way.

[Clay Travis]

He is Jewish. I thought he was the most hated person, you and I, because I became a rich white guy, like, after being a poor white guy for a long time, and now everybody hates me on the left. I would also point out that there are. This is something we got 100% right about October 7th. And a lot of Jewish people are still becoming aware of it because they look around and they say, wait a minute, Jews are just seen as white?

[Buck Sexton]

Yep.

[Clay Travis]

This is what a lot of Jewish people, they're like, wait, no, no, no. I'm a, I'm a religious minority. My. And you're you're right. Jewish people have been more oppressed, arguably, in the 20th century than any group in the. On the planet. Right. I mean, I think if you had to go back to 20th century history and say which group, religious or ethnic or racial group has been the most discriminated against in the 20th century. Holocaust is kind of tough to get past when it comes to comparing them to everyone else. And many Jewish people marched with black people in the 1960s for basic civil rights. And a lot of them are listening to us right now who were historic Democrats. But after October 7th, you're finding out, no, no, no. Even though the brown people showed up, stormed your gates, murdered innocent women and children, innocent men in your kibbutzes, they took 250 of your people hostage, many of whom, as you pointed out, Buck, are not even white. Right. But they're seen as white as Jews. And so you're white. You have to be the bad guy. The identity politics prism does not allow brown people to oppress or attack white people. And so Jewish people are. Are the problem here.

[Buck Sexton]

So the Khmer Rouge, another bunch of communist psychopaths who killed a few million people. The Khmer Rouge, initially in Cambodia, just to give you some of. There's the guy. The Black Book of Communism is a great book. I'm looking at it right now. I highly recommend it to you. You learn about a lot of what communism actually did around the world. Clay. The early days, there were intellectuals, Cambodian intellectuals, who returned from their study abroad in places like France of Marxist theory to help the revolution. And they. But guess what? The revolution decided that intellectuals were a problem. So the intellectuals who came back to give them the framework for the Marxism that they were then going to institute were arrested, tortured and executed. That was like 1978. 1970. Yeah. Guess what, everybody? The revolution devours its children. This is what happens. The left need to wake up.

[Clay Travis]

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