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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome in, everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all of you. We have, of course, the deadline of 8 Eastern Time tonight for Iran. They either concede to the Trump administration demands or Trump will unleash hell. In fact, what he has said more specifically is he is going to, well, go after them in a very big way, including civilian infrastructure, things like power. So he is turning up the heat considerably for the regime to open the strait and concede to demands about the nuclear program. We will discuss that, of course, today. Get into some of those details. J.D. vance in Hungary, place that has gotten a lot of attention in conservative circles for years now because it is a country under the Orban government, at least, that had taken on some particularly social conservative policies in the past. We'll have some highlights of what JD Said there. And we've also got some updates on the Artemis 2 program. Talking about the spaceship, or we call it a shuttle, I guess a ship. It's both, really. Yeah, either one works. It's a ship. It's, it's not a ufo, it's a spaceship. It's a, it's a shuttle that works. We'll talk about Artemis 2, what that means and, and the future of space exploration and space commercialization. But something that I just wanted to throw into the mix. Yesterday, Trump revealed. We didn't get to this. This is Cut six. Clay, before we talk about where this is all going with Iran, I feel like we're all. The whole world, in a sense, is waiting to see what happens with this negotiation. There's a, there's a big red line that Trump has drawn here. But in advance of that, something we didn't get to yesterday, we wanted to. This is Cut six. Trump said that Kim Jong Un had a very particular word that he used for Joe Biden. This is Cut six. Listen to this.
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To protect them from North Korea, we have 45,000 soldiers in South Korea to protect us from Kim Jong Un, who I get along with very well, as you know. Do you notice he said very nice things about me? He used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person. Okay. So don't tell me about your stuff. Joe Biden, he said he's a mentally retarded person. He was so nasty to Joe Biden. It was terrible. But to me, he likes Trump. And you notice how nice things are with North Korea.
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Very nice, Clay. So put aside what one thinks of Kim Jong Un saying this about Biden. I would say this. Most people that I speak to and that I see weighing in on this Iran war, they really are just their faith is in Trump to bring it across the finish line and end this thing before. There's a lot of downside that we feel in this country and our allies feel a lot more than what we've already witness, for sure. And it's worth noting that Joe Biden was the commander in chief, at least technically, for four years, somebody not of sound mind and completely incapable and not even intelligent, particularly at all before his dementia set in. So I think this is one way of saying you can trust in Trump on this one and see how he brings this thing through.
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Yeah, look, first of all, I didn't think they would have the gall, anyone to say, oh, we've got a 25th amendment him now, after for four years, they let Joe Biden bumble and stumble his way around and were even willing to accede to his ability to run for reelection, which is even crazier. Look, Trump is bombastic. He is often outrageous in many of his public pronouncements on social media. I thought we were past the point, Buck, of people losing their minds over Trump's social media post, but evidently we are not. And so he threatened and has set an 8pm deadline, and as part of that deadline, he has basically threatened to end the civilization of Iran.
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The quote, this is what I was looking for. Trump warns Iran, quote, whole civilization will die, end quote, if deadline not met. That's pretty intense.
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That's intense, but it's also very Trumpian. And so I. Look, Trump is going to, I believe, take this aggressively in, in, in the up to and including potentially extending this deadline. We will see. I think we are going to get some form of resolution sooner rather than later, because I think Trump has decided that he is in favor of getting the Strait of Hormuz open and believes that he can negotiate with the existing Iranian leaders. I think that's where his game plan is, and he is trying to, in the meantime, extract the maximum amount of negotiating leverage that he can. And he knows that all of the Iranians monitor every single thing that he says on social media. And that's what this story is. So I, I just sometimes, Buck, am befuddled. I would understand if this were still 2016 and Trump had only been a political figure for a year and people were still trying to grapple and, and, and, and figure out exactly what the, what the intent of these messages is, but the intent is quite clear. It is that he is going to Try to get mad. Maximum negotiation leverage. Now, the argument I think you can make against this is not that Trump is going to suddenly start nuclear war or something like that. It's that by making all of these outlandish threats, that he actually doesn't gain that much negotiating leverage or as much as he thinks he does, because he's been doing it for a decade now. That's, to me, the, the counter.
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I don't, I don't see Iran bending the knee right now over this. I just don't see it happening. That's just my prediction. I could be wrong. They've gotten, at some point, I think the regime feels like, well, what do we have left to lose? And I think the answer is they aren't there. They think that they are in a. Backed into a corner and do anything they can now to. And they'll suffer through anything. They have already rejected yesterday a temporary cease fire that was offered if they would just open the Strait of Hormuz. And the Iranians. Clay, this has been in every analysis, whether you're writing a grad school paper or you're in the, you know, most deep, dark bowels of the Pentagon strategy files. Everyone knows the Strait of Hormuz is a strategic choke point for global oil. And that's just, that's what Iran has been really holding over the world for a long time, more than anything else.
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More.
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More even, I think, in some ways than the threat of a nuclear program. Because it's all, we know they can do this, and we know that this is something that can start to have major economic impact. So Iran said no to that. And now the, the Iranian regime, to the degree that we can get insight into this, the state of the negotiations, they want a permanent ceasefire, they want full sanctions relief, and they are not willing to make any nuclear or other concessions. So the Iranians are taking a pretty hard line negotiating posture at this point in response to where we are, you know, hitting critical infrastructure. If that is where Trump goes with this when he said, like, we're going to, what is it, you know, annihilate your civilization or something like that, that can actually backfire on you a bit, because then the people of Iran start to say, well, hold on a second, why are we all being punished? They know it's not us. That's a consideration that I know that Trump and the team have. But it's a, it's a big one to, to work through.
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Yeah, look, I mean, the quote is a whole civilization will die tonight, which is so cinematic and, and Apocalyptic. I read that as I will kill a lot of the Iranian leaders. And you should be aware that your civilization is going to cease to exist, meaning the way that you run Iran is going to cease to exist. Regardless, the goal is to terrify people in Iran that are still in power, that if they are in any way recalcitrant when it comes to negotiating with President Trump, that there will be consequences. And look, what did we say, Buck, a couple weeks ago? To me, the off ramp here is the challenging part. I don't think there's any doubt that we have severely curtailed and diminished Iran's ability to. To in any way inflict harm upon anyone in the Middle east or around the world. I think you would have to be a moron to argue against that. So the question is, to what extent is there an off ramp here where Trump can claim, hey, we have reached a resolution, we've reached a cinematic conclusion in a way that he is able to declare victory and walk away to that. To me, that is the question of what is. What is that offering? What to him is a victory that he can claim? The Strait of Hormuz being reopened, obviously, is a very tangible one. The price of oil and gas would drop overnight, probably $30, and get us back down close to where we were before this all started. So I don't know that Iran, to your point, is willing to give that at this point. So what kind of negotiating victory is out there on the table that the President can take? By the way, Trump is very good at going out and claiming victory, even when it's not necessarily a transcendent victory. Right. So I think there are probably off ramps that Trump can take that would allow him to say, we have chained our objectives. Now it's time to ramp down everything that's been going on in Iran.
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Well, what he really wants is this strait to reopen, which has been made clear by his true social posts. And everybody can see that. And. And that's because of the economic impact on the global oil markets, which has an enormous possibility, at least, of affecting domestic politics here at home in an election year. Because, remember, the price shock can be a little delayed from all of this, too. I know we're seeing prices rise already, but it could be there are things like, you know, Amazon, I think, is even raising its prices on some vendors because of the increase in oil. Right. For doing fulfillment for them and products. 50% of oil globally, something like 50%, is not used to go into vehicles and for transport. It's actually used in products. So A lot of things that you buy are petroleum based products and those prices over time will also rise from all of this. So this is, this is about Iran trying to use economic pain as its leverage to get Trump to back off. And Trump just continuing to pound the Iranian military and let's be honest, the Iranian infrastructure now, if that's what he does tonight, and say, have you had enough? Have you had enough punishment? I'm not sure that the answer to that, Clay, is going to be yes. Yeah, these people are wacko. I mean, the ones calling the shots here, they're. I know we've said, oh, we've taken out so much of their leadership. Yeah. But even the second rung of leadership there, it's not good.
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Well, they're kind of in a tough spot. Right. Because if you are too conciliatory with the United States at this point, you might get killed in Iran. Right. So you talk about between Iraq and a hard place. If you're too aggressive with the U.S. we take you out. If you're too concilitary with the US Then Iran takes you out. So you, you want to talk about the delicate dance that Iranian leadership that is trying to govern this country has to follow right now, that is quite difficult.
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I think, I think right now the, if there's an 11th hour deal, which we are, we are now less than eight hours away from the deadline hitting here. If There is an 11 hour, 11 hour deal, Clay, I think it will be Iran has agreed to a temporary cease fire and the opening of the Strait with nuclear negotiations and other concessions to follow. And that would be what it looks. It will not be an, they will not do an abject surrender. But if they give Trump the Strait of Hormuz, that will be enough to avoid the end of their civilization strike that is supposed to come tonight.
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Yeah. I would also say the Strait of Hormuz can be a trust but verify situation that's very easy to test.
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Test.
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If Iran says the Strait of Hormuz is open now, we're going to allow transit and it doesn't occur, then you have a pretty good sign that you've been lied to. There is an easy test scenario. Now the challenge is you have to convince some of these ship owners that have loaded up their ships with oil. I mean, Buck, would you want to be on one of those ships right now? Would you want to be in the Strait of Hormuz on a completely like million?
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It would be a very, a very large personal check to me to get
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me to go ride might Be a little hard to sleep if you're on the in the straight of hormones.
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Common sense never sounded so good. Clay and Buck owning the airwave. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. Let me tell you tell you guys something by the way. Georgia 14th congressional special election is today. North Georgia. We had both the Democrat and the Republican on Clay Fuller is the Republican. I would encourage you to vote for the man named Clay and, and that election. And I understand some of you are just like when are these elections going to end? Does it feel like we've been have like special elections forever. You said I voted in 2024. And then this is Marjorie Taylor Greene's congressional seat that she abandoned and Clay Fuller is running as the Republican to, to take it back. And this is for a relatively short term, Buck, what are we talking about? April until November and then in November, this, the seat will be back on the ballot. So Democrats tend to be more energized, more excited no matter what year it is to show up for special elections. They always do. The media always treats the special elections as a substantial referendum, Buck. They typically are not. But North Georgia, we would like for you to go out and vote today even though it's sometimes frustrating to feel like you have perpetual election season.
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You want to know how the Democrats are doing? They're having a, they're having a rough one. Their numbers aren't good and so they need to get their base fired up. And so Clay, they're going to the, they're going to the greatest hits. We have a Democrat member of Congress calling for 25th amendmenting Donald Trump over the Iran war. We'll, we'll discuss this. That's where they are again. Pretty soon they're going to say that Russia is coming. Yeah, you're going to Russia made Donald Trump in, you know, attack Iran. It's Russia collusion. Some cyber scammers like to impersonate the IRS this time of year. Before April 15th, it is their opportunity to call you and tell you you owe back taxes and need to pay up before it's too late. How do they get your number and info in the first place? Comes from a data breach of one kind or another. I don't need to tell you, but the IRS does not make such phone calls. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. Lots of places can actually expose your information. That's why LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for risks to your identity. Lifelock detects and alerts you to potential identity threats you may not spot on your own like cybercriminals pretending to be you. And if you do become a victim of identity theft, a dedicated US based restoration specialist at LifeLock will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. It's easy to help protect yourself with LifeLock. Join now and save 40% off your first year with My Name Buck as your promo code. Call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go online to lifelock.com use promo code BUCK for 40% off terms apply. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we got the big deadline tonight. This is heavy stuff, everybody. We have blown up thousands and thousands of targets inside of Iran, have completely taken out their main, their navy, their air defense. Who knows how many ground unit targets we've hit. I mean the Pentagon does, but it's a lot. The I believe they used some Chinese made essentially shoulder fire man pads manpad. I know a lot of your military, you know better than I do. But for anyone else, man portable air defense system with a little shoulder fired rocket. Think a little bit like the Stinger missiles from Charlie Wilson's war made them really famous. I think they took down one of our planes with a manpad. So there's a lot of those that they've deployed as a additional tier of air defense. But that's, that's not what we were initially worried about. Initially it would have been things like the Russian, what the S3 hundreds, 500 surface to air missile systems. Those are, those are all gone. Basically we've taken all those out. We have total air dominance and can hit whatever targets, including this is where Clay, it has been additionally impressive, fearsome and impressive, which is the ability to find and take out their human, you know, senior human targets, you know, taking people off the battlefield here who are in the military chain of command, the political chain of command there due to do so seemingly at will certainly in the early days of the conflict. I mean that initial strike which really just decapitated the Iranian regime's senior leadership in one fell swoop, was an incredible hit. And so all that's gone on. But now what is the huge question? We have this deadline looming and Democrats are already smelling blood in the water on this whole thing. Politically, they just want Trump gone. And I want to say this, Clay, we're going to talk about this a lot. So I don't want to divert this, but if you want to weigh on this too, of course, by all means, man, guys, when the Democrats get any power back, it's going to, they're going to go completely insane. Just be prepared. I just want you to be prepared for that. Now maybe it's the midterms, maybe it's not, Maybe it's the 28 election, but whenever you have Democrats that have some real power again, good Lord, they are going to be insane and they're going to settle scores and they're going to be vicious. So just, we all need to get prepared for that reality, right?
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I mean, I think we're, we're going to be. If you think that, that Trump has been aggressive on his critics and by the way, hardly anything's happened to any of them. Democrats don't make threats. They actually take action. They were willing to put Trump talk
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to all the nonviolent J6 people.
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Yes, yes. I mean, they, they put thousands of people in prison for what was the total number? I mean, like, over a thousand J6ers went to prison, didn't they?
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Yeah.
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And some of them were kept in solitary confinement for years.
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Years.
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We used to have Julie Kelly on talking about this all the time, who is a Trump critic that has had anything at all other than better media access. Like, every time Trump comes after anybody, they make more money and they get, they become like a superstar on the left. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel, Don Lemon. I mean, nothing happens to any of these guys.
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I, I support, I Support the Trump 24 agenda with, with everything I got. And so does Clay, and he really every. It was so what was needed in the moment and such an enormous political win. But now we're in it, my friends. Now we're in the game, so to speak. And it's not a game. It's deadly serious. But we're in the midst of the execution phase of the Trump agenda, and there's been some really good stuff. But, you know, don't make Kristi Noem head of dhs and don't make Pam Bondi the head of the Department of Justice. Okay? People are asking me, I get this all the time, when are the, you know, the so and so prosecutions going to start? You know, when, when is there going to be accountability for filling something? And I say that's a DOJ issue. I, you know, I'm not the Attorney General. I think I probably would have been a better Attorney General than Pam Bondi. But put that aside. I'm not the attorney. I don't even have a law degree. I'm not the Attorney General, Clay, neither are you. This is, this is why personnel is policy. This is why it really matters who you have in charge. Now, I do have a lot of faith in Marco Rubio, and events, I think, have, have bolstered and supported that. I do have a lot of faith in Pete Hegseth and some of the other senior members of the Trump team that are trying to figure out not just national security broadly, but this issue of Iran and what's going on here. We judge them by results, though, and we have to see what happens with this red line on the other side of things, these Democrats. You got Ro Khanna. I wanted to just, I mean, Clay, you can react to this Ro Khanna says it's time. And this is what I meant about the, the, the lunacy of Democrats when they're back in power. It's just going to be everything we've seen before. Ro Khanna says 25th amendment time for Donald Trump because of Iran. Play 32.
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If the United States Congress has any life left in it, every member of Congress and Senator must be calling for Trump's removal today based on the 25th Amendment. He's threatening the entire destruction of a civilization. He is calling Iranians animals. He is showing a total disregard for the humanity of people in Iran, in Gaza, in Cuba. This is a moral crime. It is a war crime. We need to be demanding that Congress convene today and we need to be invoking the 25th Amendment.
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Real clay. On the one hand, on the one hand, yes, crazy talk. And they're not going to invoke the 25th Amendment is. On the other hand, Democrats are going to bring war crime prosecutions against people in this administration. I really do believe that. I think they're going to, if they can, if they, if they have the, if they can, you know, run the, if they can't run the clock out before it, I think that they'll go after people.
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I went off on this on Jesse Waters show last night. I'm sorry. Anyone. I really thought, Buck, that there would be too much shame to go 25th Amendment again. They went 25th Amendment in the first term for Trump. Then Joe Biden was an actual dementia patient for four years. We called it the Weekend at Bernie's presidency and they tried to run Weekend at Bernie's too. And if you were in the Democrat Party, and I think there was only one guy, right, the Minnesota congressman that everybody forgot that ran for president against him and had the rally that nobody showed up for in New Hampshire that was like.
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Which made us talk about it because we felt bad for him.
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And I've already forgotten that guy's name. He was the only Democrat who said Joe Biden isn't up for being President of the United States. Ro Khanna didn't come out and say, hey, We've got a 25th Amendment Joe Biden, which probably in any of the lives of people listening today is the only time when the 25th Amendment has really been justified. Trump just did an hour and 15 minute press conference yesterday, answering questions from everybody under the sun. Now, you may not agree with him. This is what I was going to ask you, Buck. So any Democrat who mentions the 25th Amendment for Trump, I just immediately Toss on the dumpster fire of stupidity and say, I can't take anything you say seriously because you covered up for Joe Biden.
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Dean Phillips.
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Wow, Phillips. There's a throwback for you that, Dean. If Dean Phillips wants to call for Trump to be 25th amendmented, I would not agree with him. But I would at least say, you know what, you called out Joe Biden and said he wasn't up for the job, and now you're calling out Trump. At least there's some consistency there, Buck. Other than we've now got what, six. We've got ten full years of Trump as a political figure. Ten years plus. And we've got now going on six years of him in office. Other than. Other than what? Like the immediate aftermath of COVID coming. Right. March. We're going to have the whatever number of days to stop the spread. And Trump eventually righted that wrong. Can you think of anything that Trump has done that has been truly consequentially wrong for the country? I mean, as an executive making choices, you might. I'm not saying you agree with everything that he did, but you go back, most people would go back now and say, hey, the Iraq war was a mistake. George W. Bush, we shouldn't have spent trillions of dollars on that. I think almost everybody would have. Other than the immediate response to Covid back in March of 2020, in nearly six years, is there anything you can point to and say, you know, you might not like a higher. But that Trump 100% got wrong other than early Covid, I can't.
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On policy, not only has he been on important policy, not only has Trump been consistently right and proven right by events, he's been right even when he has gone and maybe more so than ever when he has gone against GOP orthodoxy. Like on the trade issue.
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Yeah.
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For example, that's, that's a perfect. I think, you know. Or on renegot. Well, this is tied into trade. But renegotiating nafta, which a lot of Republicans. Oh, I can't do that. I was going to. No, he was right. He was right and they were wrong. Oh, you can't agitate China. No, he was right and they were wrong. So on those things, Trump's biggest mistakes, I think have been. And he admits this. So anyone who's like, don't you dare. No, Trump knows this. His biggest mistakes, term one, were personnel related. And his personnel has gotten a lot better. But I think because of the four prosecutions that he faced and all the people who really turned on him loyalty was even more elevated in his mind as necessary for his agenda in the second term. And some of that, I think, unfortunately, was not lined up with key competence at the highest level in a. And this is why he's removing people. I, by the way, I completely disagree with anyone who's saying, oh, I mean, well, no one's really saying that about DHS anymore. That's a sad, that's actually a sad situation with Gnome. The sad situation. My feelings about Gnome's public life are known to everyone on the show. You know, some of us see things before they happen, but that's okay. But I actually feel badly now because of the personal dynamic and everything else. Pam Bondi, I think from, I don't know her, seems just like a lovely person and a patriot and great. I just think you needed a pit bull at the top of doj. You needed a pit bull. You know, she's like, she's like a lovely, like a lovely golden retriever. I love golden retrievers. I just don't want a golden retriever running doj.
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I think that's well said. I would just add this on the Bondi front. You can have a golden retriever as the front facing object of the, of the administration to me for the doj, for instance. But you have to be the best damn communicator on the planet. And she wasn't good at that. Right. And then you have pit bulls underneath that are actually. Yeah.
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The number two wags. You need a wags.
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Yes. And so. But she wasn't even a good communicator. That was what was super frustrating to me about her tenure with the doj. She created a lot of messes. And, and look, I mean, you got to break a lot of things inside of the doj.
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Yeah. And, and you, you needed to be willing to mobilize quickly and handle these things efficiently. Getting it right. But getting it right last or getting it right too late. Not good enough in this. Well, guys, it's April. We're running out of time.
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Here's the other thing about lawyers, and I say this as a lawyer. They may have political opinions, but they're all cash and big checks. And really, it's one big club. I mean, they're making thousands of dollars an hour. And you might ostensibly be a Republican and you might ostensibly be a Democrat, but there's a lot of cross pollination there. And, and both sides are getting really rich. This is where Trump got the swamp. Right. And I don't think this is my opinion as a lawyer. I Don't think there are very many lawyers that actually really want to draw too much attention to themselves. They want to be able to go across both party lines because they don't know who's going to be president. Four years in Washington is the snap of a fingers. And some of you recognize this now the older you get. I mean, Buck, this is where I, you know, you make fun of kings and everything else, but I would argue one of the biggest challenges we have in this country is eight years. It's hard to fix a lot. Even if you have a truly excellent president, Eight years passes in the blink of an eye. Seems like a long time when you're a kid. Seems like a long time when you're a teenager. You get into your 30s, 40s and 50s and beyond. Eight years. Like you look over your shoulder in the time has passed. And, and I think one of the things Trump is trying to do is he recognizes how little time he has left in office and he's trying to fix everything, whether it's the structure of the White House or who's in charge in Iran, Venezuela and Cuba. If anything, his sin is overreach. Trying to fix so much because he's concerned that we're going to get another Joe Biden like figure back in the White House at some point in the future. And he's trying to go ahead and correct all the issues that he saw from Biden, but that he knows they're going to follow him inevitably. That's, that's what I think. I think it's overreach. Trying to fix too much at once. If you want to criticize Trump. Born on America's darkest day of 9 11, the tunnel of the Towers foundation has been helping America's heroes ever since. Heroes like Detective Victor Vargas. He dedicated his life to service. He was a US Air Force veteran who later became a detective in New York city. After the 911 attacks, Victor joined the search and recovery efforts at ground zero, a selfless act that would later cost him his Life. In this 25th anniversary year of 9 11, we continue to see the toll that day is taking on heroes and their families. Victor fought pancreatic cancer with courage, leaving behind his wife Adriana, and their four children. Tunnel the Towers honored Victor by paying off the Vargas family's mortgage. You can help more families like the Vargas family through Tunnel to Towers. Help bring hope and security to those who have already given so much for all of us. Join us in donating $11 a month and amplify your impact with a car or land donation, go to t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org if you truly care, pass along this common sense to family and friends. Clay and Buck owning the airwave. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck sexton show callers 800-282-2882. I will give you get to you at the top of the next hour. So if you are listening to us right now, I can see the topics, good questions from Utah, from Ohio, from Florida, among others. We will get to those when we come back at the top of the next hour. So hang with me and I will go to you at the top of the next hour. In the meantime, one of our listeners in Salt Lake City, he's got a question that a lot of people have been asking and I wanted to play it for you. Cut D Listen, how come Trump doesn't
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just take over the straight and the oil supply as well? He talked about it a long time ago with that interview with Barbara Long Walters or whatnot. And he said, you just take the oil. Why didn't we just take, take it, take it over.
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Okay, this is a question I bet you have gotten quite a lot too, Buck. The biggest issue with the straight of Hormuz and with having ships that are helping to security, it only takes a drone or someone with a rocket launcher. Someone with, I mean, one individual can blow up an oil tanker potentially. And even if you have great security, it's hard to stop one person who could launch a drone or a rocket launcher or something of that nature.
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A
Or, or you could just fill a, a, you know, small motorboat.
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C
Yes.
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A
With basically the USS Cole routine where you fill a small boat with as much dumb, dumb explosive as you possibly can and then you just have the guy go full Allahu Akbar, pull the pin on the grenade and kaboom. So, yeah, it's not hard to do.
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C
So I think the answer is the, the concept of providing 100% security to tankers is more difficult than it might sound. Now, in order to take over oil and gas production in Iran, we would have to take Card island, we would have to put boots on the ground,
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A
and we'd have to invade. It's called an invasion.
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C
Other than the saving of the, the crewman who was on the ground, we have not yet had any boots on the ground. I would mention Buck, who didn't get a lot of attention. But Israel also put boots on the ground to help us rescue the American servicemen. That is a pretty significant gesture on their behalf. They put Israeli lives on the line to save an American life. It hasn't gotten very much attention, but credit to them for that. All right, lots of questions, open phone lines. We're coming to you guys next. When we return, this is the Clay Box Show.