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Buck Sexton
This is an I Heart podcast. Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is having a great time on vacation. He was in the Bahamas. He's working on his tan. He wears sandals year round. So nothing new there, but he's having a good time. He'll be back with us on Friday. Just me today, tomorrow and Thursday. You are riding with the Buckster and we have much to discuss here. Our friend Ryan Graduski will also be with us of the Clay and Buck Podcast network talking to him about the latest data from cnn. It just keeps getting worse for the libs and the Democrats. The numbers increasingly showing that wherever it is that you poll on any important issue in the country right now, Trump is much stronger, is doing much better than the Democrats anticipated, hoped for, and have tried very hard to prevent from being the overall perception. So we'll get into some of that. More on the immigration and border issue, Tom Homan, just the guy's just an all star. You know, it's, it's so nice to see, and this is true in a number of the senior Trump administration roles. It's just so nice to have people who know exactly what they're doing and are totally in line with the Trump agenda and they're making moves every day to that end. So I just think that is critical. And on the border, there may be nothing, maybe no issue that is honestly more important. I think the border and the economy are side by side. You know, thanks to Trump, we're not getting involved in any crazy wars anytime soon. So we shall dive into that. But I did want to take a few moments here to update the story we talked about yesterday about this firebombing terror attack in Colorado and what this tells us about not only the kinds of ideological hatred that are spreading in this country under this, I think often this shield of oh, I'm not anti Jewish or anti anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. Well, I don't know a lot of Zionists who aren't Jews. I think the I'm just anti Zionist or even anti Israel is doing a lot of work in that sentence. What is it that they really object to? And as I have pointed out to you, and I will continue to do so, there are many places around the world where there is extreme violence, there is very real oppression, and there are plenty of ways you could argue we should put more pressure on or we should do something. Now, whether you believe we should or not is a separate issue, but we could theoretically do more. And yet, because it cannot be blamed on the Jewish people, you know, the situation in South Sudan, because it is very tough to make that about Zionism. These individuals who are so upset on college campuses and just on streets in cities across America, they have nothing to say about, doesn't even register with them the realities of Middle east totalitarianism as it pertains to places like Iran, for example. That is not a problem that gets protests in the streets. People who think they care about women's rights on the left have no issue with Iran, at least no issue they're willing to speak about publicly. But endless issues with Israel and endless issues with Gaza. And I think we all see what that's all about. You'll also notice this, and as I've told you before, this was the first issue in of foreign policy that I ever spent real time on. It was going on now over 20 years. When I first I worked at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. I was an intern for Clinton's Ambassador, Dennis Ross, who was Ambassador Ross, was the negotiator on the Arab Israeli peace accords under the Clinton administration. Camp David didn't work, but they tried. I also worked at the Council on Foreign Relations. Council on Foreign Relations. You know, they got the Bilderbergs, the Illuminati. No, Council on Foreign Relations. I did work there as an intern. So trust me, I didn't know the secret handshakes or the secret tunnels or any of that stuff. But I worked there on the US Middle East Project, which was also an Arab Israeli Peace Project initiative. So I started, as many do, my academic background in Middle east studies or on this issue of Israel Palestine. And so I do have some institutional memory. I do have some recall not just of how it is now, but how it has been the last 20 years. And what you see is that there are a lot of people who care not a bit about foreign policy as a general matter, but they care so much about what's going on with Israel. And you say, well, why is that? Why is Israel the place? And you know, we say these things rhetorically. I think we know why. And I think that in the, in the context of America, first of all, there's a tremendous amount of anti Jewish feeling throughout the Muslim world that is just a reality. That is a truth. You could even think to the character Borat. I always thought this was fascinating. Remember Ali. Ali G. Was another one of his characters. Sasha Baron Cohen, who is Jewish, last name is Cohen, a common Jewish last name. Sacha Baron Cohen playing the Ali G character playing Borat. And Borat became this big famous movie. Kazakhstan is a Muslim country. And one of the bits that Sasha Baron Cohen would do was constantly kind of satirizing the just blatant anti Semitism of the supposed Kazakhstan Borat. Now, he got away with this because he never got away with it. You know, the left didn't get angry about it because he never mentioned this was a effectively a Muslim character that he was playing. But there's a tremendous amount of anti Semitism throughout the Muslim world and no serious person would argue otherwise, or no person who knows what they're talking about. Now, there's a lot of anti Semitism in Europe and clearly a lot of anti Semitism in America too. But it is worse in the Islamic world by far. And ask any Jew you know who knows anything about these regions and they'll say, yeah, that is certainly the case. But why is it that this goes to the front of the line? Why is this so important to the American left? Well, as I've discussed here, as I've laid forward, and I know Clay has adopted this to his own thinking as well, this is a white versus brown conflict in the minds of the American left. The Israelis are white. The Palestinians are brown. Therefore the moral high ground is set and unchangeable in favor of the brown Palestinians. Whatever they have to do is justified. They are oppressed. They are the ones who are suffering. Any action, including the most heinous and vicious actions humanly possible or thinkable, which Hamas and affiliated and assorted terrorist groups on behalf of the Palestinians comprise of Palestinians have engaged in, is inherently justified because they're so oppressed. I've said this before. If October 7th wouldn't turn people against the Palestinian cause, such as it is, because the cause is not an independent state. The cause is the eradication of the Jewish state. That is the truth. It is obvious to anyone paying attention who is being honest. But if that won't turn you against the cause, or if there won't be criticism from people after that, there is nothing that will make them critical of this. There is nothing that will turn them and make them think that the Palestinians perhaps should look inward and take a different approach. And I think that couldn't be more clear than it is right now. This is why I remind everyone the so called glorious martyrs and the resistance of groups like Hamas, stretching back into the second intifada in the early 2000s, was just a series of suicide bombings meant to Bring Israeli life to a halt, to a standstill, to destroy the daily lives of Israelis and to murder as many Israelis, women and children as possible. A moral person, A moral person from any country, from any culture, of any religion or skin color. A moral person does not go into a crowded restaurant with a suicide vest on, packed with ball bearings, killing himself and everyone else there because they think that somehow this is going to achieve what exactly? Revenge? A state. No one's even clear what they want because what they want is the manifestation of and the right to act on deep hatred. And that brings me to Colorado. And this individual, Egyptian national, came to this country claiming he wants asylum. Think about that for a moment. You know, this, this reminds me of. There's something particularly heinous. And you see this playing out in a number of different very, very, you know, well known and well made movies about World War II. But it was well known and some of those of you who had, you know, veteran, particularly a Marine and, and army dads fighting in World War II, it was well known that the Japanese, as one of their tactics, would claim that they were wounded and surrender. And then they would actually have a grenade. And so they would say, please, please don't kill me. I'm wounded, I can't fight. And then our gis would go over because our people were always trying to be humane in the most inhumane circumstances. And they would go, and then they would be blown up by this person. And this was common. You see this in a whole, you see this in thin red line. You see this in letters from Iwo Jima. Somebody who claims asylum in your country is on that same moral plane. They're saying, please, I need to skip the line. I'm in a desperate situation. I have to get away from my home country. My home country is so awful that if you send me back, I could be tortured and killed. Please, out of the kindness of your heart, take me in. This individual, this terrorist in Colorado said that he wanted asylum, used our process, used the goodness of the American people, used our mercy against us and against our Jewish brothers and sisters in Colorado who were burned severely in this attack. And now we even, we have more details. We know this was absolutely not just an act of terror, but a premeditated and particularly vicious one. It is hard to think of something that is more awful than, than intentionally lighting defenseless people on fire. But that is what Mohammed Suleiman, who disguised himself as a gardener in an orange vest so he could get as close as possible to, to these individuals in Boulder, Colorado. That is what Mohammed Saliman wanted to do. And he believed his actions, just not just then, but after the fact. He believes because he has said it to law enforcement, that this was vengeance for, quote, his people. His people. He's Egyptian. You might say to yourself, what is he talking about? Oh, okay, you mean Muslim, brown, non Jews. That's essentially what he means by his people, or rather the people that he associates with who hate the Jewish people. If you do not understand these hatreds and see how they are for one side, immovable and unfortunately central to the society. The hatred of Jews is central to the people of Gaza. Look at their textbooks. There are whole initiatives that have been going on for years to show people what is taught about Jews in the, in the, in the schools, such as there are schools in places like Gaza and in the West Bank. And it couldn't be more clear which side of this issue all of us should be on. And yet you have not just radical fringe elements of the left, you have the Democrat party itself sympathetic to and making room for this virulent anti. Semitism. This is now replaced the kneeling for George Floyd. You have to understand this is filling that hole in the soul of all of these leftists in America who think that we must always be having some sort of racial reckoning. I know it isn't reasonable or even logical, but they view the Israelis as fighting Hamas, as a racial reckoning of white oppression against the non white adversary here. And so this is why they attach themselves to this. They feel. So these people don't know it. They don't know anything about the Balfour Declaration, about The Nakba, about 1948, about U.N. resolution 242 or U.N. resolution 338 or the 1973 war or the, I mean go down the list. They don't know anything about the removal of, of, of Israelis, of settlers from Gaza and the destruction of greenhouses and the destruction of infrastructure and all the. They don't know. They, they, they don't. All they know is they have been told the Jews, the white people here who are Jews are the bad people. And they are obsessed with the virtue signaling of marching around campus proclaiming to care so much about the oppressed and the dispossessed. And that ideology unfortunately also inspires and creates far too much room for maniacs like this Molotov cocktail throwing murderer or attempted murderer who thought that lighting defenseless people on fire was people he had never met before, who had never done anything to him. And here we are now seeing once again, just like we saw on October 7. There is a side of evil and a side of decency here and every American gets to choose the democrats largely for the most part. Not all of them are on the wrong side of this one. Spring and summer are when we get most of the outdoor repair work done on a house on the yard. Longer daylight hours, better weather, ideal conditions. It's also the time of year when leaffilters technicians are the busiest working on your gutters. 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And the president is going to ensure that this individual is held to the fullest extent of the law. Now that is a particularly heinous thing, as we discussed. I mean, to light people on fire shooting people is horrific and it's murderous and right. This guy wanted to get a gun, he couldn't get a gun gun because there are a lot of gun laws that prevent people in his circumstance from getting them. Doesn't mean you can't steal them or get them otherwise, of course. But to light people on fire to. To create a homemade flamethrower to bring molotov cocktails. This guy, this terrorist, has a wife and five children. Think about that. This guy has a wife and five kids. Apparently he hid all of this from them. That's what the reporting says. And from the kids, I'm sure he did. And maybe from the wife too. But what kind of monster has five children who he is raising, who he has, has spent time, you know, I'm a new dad. And there's so much that you appreciate about life and there's so much that makes you think about Someone else, something else is more important in life than you, than your whims, than, than your politics. That's one of the most incredible things about being a dad, right, or a mom. And you've been a dad five times over and you know so little of life and what is precious and what matters that you're going to go light elderly Jewish people on fire because you disapprove of what a different country is doing 5,000 miles away. It's a demonic ideology. This pro Hamas, pro Palestinian madness. It's demonic. Well, our nation eventually have a sovereign wealth fund. It's out there idea. But it's possible, isn't it? There are other countries that have a sovereign wealth fund, dozens of them. And there's somebody out there who thinks the US could have its own version of a sovereign wealth fund tapping into an asset worth as much as $150 trillion. 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As I said, this guy was married, the, the terrorist here, married, five kids and just wanted to go and light a bunch of Jews on fire at a vigil essentially at a raising awareness for the hostages gathering. It is so evil. And everyone I know, you see that if you listen to this show as you do, you know what we stand for and you are a person who has, and I say this in all honesty, and this is not even this, this just, I think should be said because we should all allow ourselves to hear it. You are a person of moral clarity, knows right from wrong. So it can be befuddling, it can be confusing. How could anyone not see right from wrong on these issues? I don't just mean the terrorists, right? Of course, even the most insane Democrats for the most part will publicly say, oh, but, you know, this is. That's not right. But let's not let this overshadow the righteousness of the Palestinian cause. What is the Palestinian cause? They don't want a state that isn't Israel. So they just want to continue to exist to create agitation, strife, and bloodshed until they get their way, move on. A lot of countries have a lot of borders that shift over the centuries. People move around. My people were Irish, and then they were starving to death, and then they crossed an ocean. Like, things happen, really. I know that that seems like a simplification to some people, but this is just reality. Israel's not going anywhere. The people that are telling Palestinians, whether they're fellow Palestinians, you know, like Hamas or other, you know, Muslim entities or states in the region, oh, don't worry, we'll get rid of those Jews. No, you won't. It's not going to happen. Try to lead better lives. Try to build something instead of trying to burn everything down. But somehow the. The righteous cause on campus for the imbeciles is Gaza. We need to make a Gaza, a place that is totalitarian, a place where no one has any actual rights, a place where the very people who are protesting in favor of this wouldn't last. Well, it's the war zone right now, but even before it was a war zone wouldn't last a day. And we'd be lucky if they weren't tortured to death and murdered. And yet they still think that those are the good guys. I mean, this, to me, would be like protesting in favor of North Korea. You know, North Korea just wants South Korea back. What's the problem? You know, so what if they're going to have to shell Seoul and they're going to have to kill a few million South Koreans? The reunification of the Korean peninsula is North Koreans destiny. And I stand. You would know that's a crazy person, right? North Korea is an evil state, an evil regime to its own people and to everyone else, Gaza is an evil regime. Rather, the Hamas regime of Gaza is evil. These are bad people. They have chosen the path of darkness, and they inflicted that darkness on Israel. And now there is a response. I don't know why this is so hard for some Americans in particular to get through their heads. But. But it is. And. And they sit here and they say, oh, you know, you're. You don't understand. You know, it's. It's the. It's. It's not my. I don't have a problem with Jews. They say, I don't like the way they're fighting in Gaza. Oh, yeah. All the, all the tacticians, all the real frontline military minds that have a problem with what the Israelis are doing in Gaza. Sure. It's just, you know, they just wish it was a little bit different. I remember, I remember when they were saying there should be a ceasefire days after the attack of October 7th. A ceasefire. Now, if somebody was calling for a ceasefire 48 hours after Pearl Harbor, I think it would be pretty clear that they don't want to see the best for America. Right. I think we would all know that. Hey, hold on a second. Maybe Japan, you know, just wants to. Just wants to work it out, you know. Yeah, they got a little bit, you know, a little bit too feisty there with, you know, killing a few thousand Americans and bombing us. But, you know, they've had a tough go. You would know that person's insane. You would know that they actually just hate America. And yet the people that were calling for a ceasefire are the same people that have been marching on campuses for Palestine. Same people going in the media saying, you know, this is an evil war and a genocide. They were calling for a ceasefire right away. Cease fire. If someone walked up to me in a bar and punched me in a fit in the face as hard as they could, and I was, you know, gearing up to give them a nice shot and they said, hold on, cease fire. Do I think that they're acting in good faith? We know that they're not acting in good faith. When it comes to Israel, we can all see it. Scott Jennings over at cnn. There's a dynamic duo over at CNN of Scott Jennings and Sure. Michael Singleton. Sure, Michael's a friend of mine. We'll have him on the show soon. We've had Scott on the show. Sure, Michael does great work over at cnn, but Scott Jennings, I'll give you one from each of the dynamic duo here at cnn. They're the only thing worth watching now at cnn. I know somebody saying, buck, why do you watch cnn? I don't, but I see the Scott Jennings and Shermichael Singleton clips. It's funny. They're the only thing worth watching there. And yet you think they'll get a show. Do you think that they would do like the Scott and Schermichael show, by the way? That'd be a great show. It'd be real rare. They could fight with libs. It doesn't have to just. It doesn't have to be conservative or, you know, pro Trump only. Right. They could. They could have on all the Democrats they want, just have one show with somebody who is pro Trump on that network. They would never do it. They would never do it. No, they'd rather have an anchor up there who's like, well, do we really know that men have. I think we need more study before we know that men have a biological advantage over women in athletics. We need more study. Oh, oh, because what about, what about women who were assigned women at birth but actually have been unassigned it. Because they say so. Ah, okay. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. All right, back to CNN's Scott Jennings here. This is what he says about this. This is cut seven. Play it. This is horrific.
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Scott Jennings
And what more do we need to see before we realize this Free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization right now? I mean, we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago. We have this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know, the activities on college campuses now for months and months and months and months. The rise of anti Semitism in America, the rise in the number of people who have come to America who hold anti American views, anti Western views and anti Semitic views and are now willing to act on it. It is absolutely outrageous. And I think as a society, we need to understand we are dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent by the day. And if we don't deal with it, these kinds of things are going to keep happening.
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Buck Sexton
You see, this is. I'm going to let you in on a little secret that the Israeli people know and Americans who understand the Muslim world know. Here's the belief that's out there that the left will say to you, oh, it's our fault. And you can see this runs in parallel. This argument goes side by side. America in the Middle East, Israel in the Middle East. You'll hear the same version of this, the same argumentation. Essentially, here's how it goes. If we just did things differently, if we just left them alone, meaning the Muslim world, the Middle. The Middle east really is what we're talking about here specifically, but the Muslim world more broadly too, because technically places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, that's not the Middle east, that's South Asia. But if you look at the Muslim world, the belief is if we leave them alone, everything would be better. They'll leave us. They'll leave us alone. History shows you that that's not true, that it's not as though if we just did things differently. And this is really gets to the heart of the debate here. If we just did things differently. All of the terrorism Bin Laden is or was. Thank you Seal Team 6. Bin Laden was blowback for US foreign policy. These people have no idea what they're talking about. They know nothing about the Hadith cited with the black banners of Khorasan making their way to Jerusalem to bring about the End of Days. They know nothing about the explicitly imperial history, meaning empire building history of the Islamic project. They know nothing about this. They just viewed in a post Ottoman, which really just means 20th century, a post Ottoman context of Muslim world and specifically Mideast decline. And so we are the oppressors, they are the oppressed. In fact, the Islamic world was just one giant jihad of ongoing conquest for centuries. For centuries. Right. So if we're really going to get into this history, we should have some baseline understanding of what is really going on here. But you will notice that wherever, wherever there has been the expansion of the Muslim world into the non Muslim world, guess what happens? Vicious and violent conflict. And this is without exception. Find me a place. Show me what it looks like in South Asia when, when Muslims and Hindus are coming together. Has there been tremendous bloodshed? Have there been wars? Of course. Show me this in East Asia. Show me this anywhere. Certainly the Balkans, Eastern Europe. Show me this anywhere. And there is conflict and there are problems. The notion that the only problems exist because of us is just a self hatred masquerading as some kind of erudite foreign policy. It's absurd. It is absurd. And now what you have to realize is that some of these countries, you look at a place like Iran, why do you think Iran spends all of its time saying that Israel is the little Satan and we're the great Satan and they have all this stuff. And yes, I know the Iranian people different than the Iranian regime. Why does the apparatus in control of Iran, the theocracy of Iran, spend so much time supporting terrorist groups and hating Israel and working against America? Well, if they weren't doing that, they might have to look around and say, why does our society suck so much? Why are we so poor? Why do we have no rights? Why are we so behind the rest of the world? Why can't we be competitive? Why can't we create great literature? Why can't we create movies anybody wants to watch? Why aren't we curing diseases? Where are we on AI? How happy are our people? All of those metrics, and this isn't just true in Iran. All of those metrics in some of these Muslim countries would just be devastating if people actually spent time thinking about them. But it is so much more easy to say, well, you know, there's. There's an Israeli hiding under my bed. He's the problem. America doing things that Israel wants them to do, that's the problem. I promise you. These countries, I mean, the perfect example is Gaza. Gaza itself. Israel said, fine, you know what, all of our settlers, and they. It was not. It was not a pleasant experience. They had to send in the military. They had to drag them out of Gaza. Those of you who actually know the history of the region know what I'm talking about. They said, fine, Gaza is yours. And then they spent the next 20 years building terror tunnel networks and firing rockets at their neighbors. It's their fault. They made choices. They made bad choices. It is their fault. Now you could say, oh, but, you know, laws of war and what do we do? And it's so horrible. And there's civilian casualties. Yeah, war is a terrible thing. The Israelis try to mitigate the civilian casualties from the war that they are fighting, but that does not mean it is not a just war. Same way we went to Afghanistan. And they were trying to not just blow up the Pentagon and bring down the Twin Towers. They had many, and I worked on some of them in the CIA, CTC when they were active plots. I remember this. They were trying to bring down, you know, you know, multiple airliners over the Pacific or over the Atlantic or they're trying to bring. I mean, they, they had plots aplenty, mass casualty plots still going and still based on Al Qaeda leadership direct planning. And. Yeah. Did we occasionally bomb a. Not even. Not even occasionally. I mean, we just had to bomb compounds where we thought the bad guys were. And were there people who were killed? And is that terrible? Yes. But the alternative is we don't get to do anything and we just get to suffer and the terrorists win. The fighting against terrorism cannot be viewed as the root cause of terrorism because then you have created a philosophy of the bad guys win before the fight has even started. And that is what the American left does. That is what the blame America first group does. And that is what the, you know, the, the Hamas lovers running around on campus. That is their fundamental belief. That is what actually unites all of them. 800-282-2882 on the phone lines. Give me a call, we'll talk about this. And you know, Pure Talk is thanking our military veterans for their service and sac. As a result, a thousand vets will receive a gift from our friends at PureTalk, a new American flag from Allegiance Flag. The Pure Talk Team believes every service member who has faithfully served this country deserves to proudly fly an American flag, one that's made in America. You can participate too. 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We'll come back in here, we'll talk about the, the immigration part of this as well, because remember, this guy was an illegal, the terrorist here was an illegal. And I think it's important to note that this is just the beginning of us dealing with the Biden wide open border policy. So we will get into some of that. And we also have some numbers out about where Trump's, where Trump is on the economy and the Democrats are freaking out because we're six months in and Trump is crushing them on all important metrics. Still, they kept acting like he's going to mess everything up. No, actually, you know, the number one thing I hear from Trump voters and one just came up to me today, guy lives in West Palm, cool British accent, by the way, loves the show. But the number one thing when people come up to me, tap me on the shoulder and they say they like the show is I ask them how do they think things are going with Trump. You know what they say? I voted for this. This is an I Heart podcast.