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Harris isn't on trial here in the same way President Biden wasn't on trial when he was running. We are. The American people are on trial. If a sufficient number of us and a sufficient number of states choose to ignore the evidence that, as the Bible says, those with eyes to see and ears to hear can detect, then we have no excuse. We might have an explanation, which is that for a series of reasons, people are not holding the Republican Party and the nominee of that party to rational account. And I think that this is a test of citizenship in a way that certainly you'd have to go back, I think, to both the 19th century and the civil rights era to find anything equivalent.

Buck Sexton (6:46)

Yeah, it's just like the Civil War all over again. If you voted for Trump, you're on the wrong side of it. That guy, that guy has a book out today, which is crap, by the way. It's just a bunch of like him talking about other people's essays. But I can tell you, the lib, intelligentsia, literature, the literati, the literary apparatus, they're all behind it. That book has to be number one or it's a failure. Help me beat his book. You listening to this can help me beat the book today. Do you want. Do you want the smug lib who hates Trump, thinks that you're on the wrong side of the Civil War if you voted for him and the wrong side of the Civil Rights act and thinks Trump is a Nazi? You want his book to be number one? You want my book, a book to be number one? It's up to you. I humbly put myself in all of your hands. I don't care. Buy the book. Give it to your, give it to your best buddy, give it to, you know, your neighbor, pass it off to them at the fence line when you're watering your azaleas or something. I don't care. Buy a book, if you would, please, for me today, do me this solid and that is the way that you can show the libs that the right still reads, we still care, and we're not letting some smug anti trumper get the number one. No way. Clay, thank you for letting me make my pitch to this incredible audience of patriots and great Americans who I know are right now going on that Amazon order page or wherever they go. Maybe they're going to a bookstore. That's great too. And they're getting that book. Manufacturing delusion. But I'm probably never going to make this ask you guys ever again. So go buy this book. Buy it today.

Clay Travis (8:12)

Awesome. Do it and you can find it. Amazon. I bought it there. I got it today. A lot of you who pre ordered will get it today, but it can get shipped out as quick as. As quick as a day in many different places out there and obviously bookstores all across America.

Buck Sexton (8:27)

And I did the audiobook at your suggestion. By the. I actually recorded the audiobook myself. So if you download the audiobook, it's me reading it to you. So that's kind of fun.

Clay Travis (8:36)

That's right. And that is a lot of work for people who don't know. You sit in a studio all by yourself for hours and hours reading every word that you wrote. Oftentimes, I'm sure this happened to you too. You read a paragraph and you're like, I wish I'd written that better. Or I wish I had started with this sentence or why did I use that word? I'm a, I'm a moron. Like it is very humbling to go back and read every word out loud. So I would encourage all of you, get out there and. And buy the book. And it actually ties in today with. We'll get into this in a little bit more detail, but we had another trans shooter, Buck. We had another trans shooter. And I hate that this story is out there and continues to be out there, but it has become, unfortunately an awful trend. Nashville, Tennessee, my hometown. Trans person shoots up a Christian school, kills a bunch of innocent people. Minneapolis trans shooter shoots up an actual church service, kills a bunch of innocent people. And now you see in Rhode Island, a. Well, we just had last week in Canada, a trans shooter killed a ton of people in a school related shooting. And now during a high school hockey game, a guy who was pretending to be a woman shot and killed two people, wounded, I believe three, and killed himself as well. And I don't even know as a society how we can avoid having real conversations now just as reasonable people about what is going on. But the dishonesty in the media is crazy. This is the New York Times how they, how they covered it. At a news conference on Monday night, Chief Goncalves said, this is in the Providence, Rhode island area, I believe, said the shooter was born in 1969 and went by two different names. They don't even say this was a man who decided to identify as a woman. He destroyed his entire family. The narcissism on this Buck is off the charts. His wife said, no, I'm not going to go along with this delusion and said, hey, we're not going to support you deciding to become a woman. This is ridiculous. And he got divorced. She divorced him and then he showed up and he killed her at a high school hockey game. I don't know how we can have an honest society if we're not willing to ask very basic questions on this. What drugs are these people on? Is it making them more violent? Why off the charts now? Mass shootings? Are they being committed by trans people?

Buck Sexton (11:44)

Well, Clay, actually, I think a lot of these cases, it's. They aren't on enough or they aren't on the proper meds. Just keep that in mind too, as in this is not treated necessarily. It is not treated as a mental illness. You are to be affirmed in that.

Clay Travis (12:02)

Yeah.

Buck Sexton (12:03)

So there's the drugs you take to transition genders, Clay. These people are not necessarily told you need substantial doses of an SSRI or an SNRI or something like that. By the way, a lot of people with mental illness, millions and Millions of them. That stuff actually really helps them. And on the right, people get a little quick to be like, oh, have you ever been around somebody who's schizophrenic? You ever been around somebody who has really serious ocd? These meds let them function in their lives. Now, there are some people who are over medicated and some people have the wrong medications. There's a lot of these things. But in this case, Clay, the big problem is, is that this is not pathologized at all. Yeah, this is affirmation. This is not a disease or an issue to be treated and handled. It is a civil rights issue. Now, what happens if you have mutilated your genitalia because you listened to the American Medical association and all these different groups and the doctors and the big hospitals and. And CNN and the New York Times editorial page and all this. And then you turn around and some goes, no, this was all a lie. You're already dealing with a person who is deeply unstable and mentally ill. And then you tell them that they've ruined their lives. You know, this is the basic question. You brought this up. Did this person have mental illness? Ask a lot of people this in public, and I mean people, whether it's in the news, Clay, or law enforcement or. Or doctors who are supposed to be able to diagnose these things or understand them, they'll say, it's not clear. I can't diagnose. Really? Really. This person didn't. This person wasn't crazy. Let's just use the C word. Crazy. Was this person crazy? Obviously, yes. Why are we all told that we can't say that this person was crazy? Crazy people need help. They do not need applause for their craziness.

Clay Travis (13:57)

Yes. And when you're. We have been sold a bill of goods on this, which is that affirming someone's insanity actually makes them healthier. And if you translate this outside of trans related issues, and you just said, hey, is it kind to tell people you're really hearing voices? Is it kind to tell people that they're able to talk to dead people? Would it be kind to affirm someone who is schizophrenic in the belief that their delusions are real? The answer, of course, would be no. And so what we have done in an act of intended empathy is actually, I think, made people who are ill that much more ill. And unfortunately, now, Buck, what you're seeing is, did you see this guy say, in response to the trans congresswoman, Congressman, whatever the dude is that is pretending to be A chick in Congress, he said, if you don't affirm our. Our genders, we're going to go berserk. The day before he went and killed a bunch of people. So we've now created a world where if you question someone's gender identity, they believe they are entitled, some of them, to. To engage in violence against others as a way to speak out against not being accepted. Now, I just think this is going to get worse. Unfortunately, we have created this entire trans world, and these people, and I think partly buckets, the drugs that they take, are committing acts of mass violence on a scale that is unprecedented when you consider how small the population actually is. Keep bashing us is what he tweeted. But do not wonder why we go all caps berserk. As his comment yesterday, before he showed up at a high school hockey match and started. Started attacking people, I just, I mean, it is.

Buck Sexton (16:08)

How many of these. We just had one a few days ago in British Columbia and Canada, and.

Clay Travis (16:14)

Now we have another one, Minneapolis, Nashville, this. Four direct shootings in the last year and a half or so that have been entirely perpetrated by trans people.

Buck Sexton (16:24)

Well, I mean, mass acts of mass murder that are really acts of domestic terrorism in a sense. I mean, this is ideologically driven. Now, these people are also crazy, but a lot of jihadis, for example, are also crazy. They do it because they think they're going to get the 72 virgins and all that stuff. Yes, but. So there's an ideological component to it, but they're also psychologically unstable. Not all of them, by the way. Some of them just choose evil. And that's. And there's ideologically aligned. And again, I know that this is. Sounds like I'm. I'm all setting stuff for the book, but this is why I talk about. This is what I talk about in manufacturing delusion, because people are doing this to people. The whole trans thing was. Was. There's a system. This has been systematized. This is. This is being created by an apparatus that views this as important for the projection of power, important for the projection of an ideology. And that's why client, you can't even believe this stuff. When you see the graph, the graph of how many kids now identify as transgender or nonbinary. It's up like thousands of a percentile. It's crazy. It's obviously been done. This has. A decision has been made by people in power to do this.

Clay Travis (17:39)

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Clay Travis (20:02)

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Clay Travis (21:02)

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show third hour of the program. I'll give you a little bit of a heads up. Texas Senate voting has started and we are going to be in Texas for the primary. We'll be in Austin, we will be in San Antonio and we will be in Houston. Buck will be in Houston. Apologies, Houston, I found out that I've got a buck will be waving. I'm sorry, Houston.

Buck Sexton (21:31)

Literally just, you know, I'm going to have, I'm going to have dinner with the great Michael Berry and the great Jesse Kelly and we're going to keep an empty chair with a big bottle of whispering angel just for you. Clay, there'll be an empty chair with a bottle of whispering.

Clay Travis (21:45)

I wish I could be there, but my kids have a father son dinner that they do once a year at their school. My oldest is a senior and so they didn't send out notice about what day it was at least to my knowledge until last week. So I have had to scramble my schedule to make sure I can make my father, son, daughter, father son dinner. I don't have a daughter that I know of that on March 3, which is the same day as the primary. So we're gonna get to to that in the third hour. But I know many of you are getting ready to start your voting and I've got a theory on what's going on there. Mom, Donnie. News just broke recently. In the last hour or so, the New York City mayor has announced that he is going to be Increasing, go figure property tax rates for everybody in New York City. The Reverend Jesse Jackson has passed at the age of, I believe it's 85. That news is out there this morning. But I still on this, on this trans shooter Buck. I just want all of you to think about this for a moment. This guy had a family. He had kids, he had sons, he had daughters. I would argue, and I think most of you out there would sign off on this, who are parents, that once you have kids, your number one responsibility in life is to raise them up and do your best job to raise the next generation to the best of your ability. He destroyed his family by saying, I am trans. He looks like. Buck just said the pictures. He looks like the macho man Randy Savage in the, in the South Park Show. I mean, this is, you can always.

Buck Sexton (23:49)

This person doesn't look vaguely female. Usually you have somebody who thinks that with enough filters, from a distance, in certain light, you might mistake them for female until you shake their hand, you see their Adam's apple and they're like, I'm a woman. But in this case, this guy just looks like a lunatic. And by the way, I don't say lunatic to, I mean that, like, belongs in an insane asylum. Like, this person looks crazy.

Clay Travis (24:15)

Can you imagine when you. I, I, I am really fired up about this because I think, again, we need to have real conversations here. The guy decided that he had to become a woman. He was born in 1969, which would make him, what, 56 years old or something like that? I think roughly 56 or 57. Walked out on his family. His wife said, no, I'm not going to sign on to this delusion. You are the fam, you are the husband. You're the father of this household. He said, no, it's more important that I become a woman. As Buck said, it looks like the macho man, Randy Savage. I mean, he did not become a woman. You can't become a woman. And then because his family did not affirm his mental illness, he killed them in public at a hockey match.

Buck Sexton (25:16)

Well, click. Can we get into this for a second? This is, first of all, this is what everyone is. We know this. You know this, I know this, and all of you with us know this. An unspeakable evil has been done here in the 21st century to push this on kids and to push this on people. And for the neo Marxists, for the race communists, race gender Communists, to create this whole edifice of the, of transgenderism, they're ruining lives. They're ruining the lives. And this is, I think, very important with what you said, Clay. It's not just the individual who self mutilates his genitalia, which this guy did. It's come out that the Rhode island shooter, his wife wanted a divorce because he cut his manhood off. I gotta say, I think that's valid grounds for. I think it's valid grounds probably for an annulment. I mean, this is, this is.

Clay Travis (26:13)

I mean, you should be put in an insane asylum if you chop your penis off, period. Imagine you are not saying if you chop your penis off. I'm just, I'm going to put that out there as a categorization like that should be a default. You belong in an insane asylum decision.

Buck Sexton (26:28)

And I don't keep going back to the title of my book, which is out today, manufacturing delusion. But Clay, this is the definition of a delusion. Yes, this is delusional. This person, it looks like a two. The guy looked like a 200 pound deadlifter with long hair and fake boobs. Male deadlifter. I'm saying he looks like a 200 pound like bodybuilder guy or three, you know, 250 probably. He's a big dude and he's got, you know, male features, but fake boobs and some long dyed hair. And we're supposed to say this is a woman. This is a hideous caricature of being a woman. But, but to your point, I wanted to make note of this. The families, not, of course he murdered his family. I mean, this is evil. This is the most. I mean, I think murdering your family is the most unspeakable evil. I don't think there can be anything more evil really than that for an individual.

Clay Travis (27:18)

Impossible to even come up with something.

Buck Sexton (27:20)

I think it's the most evil thing that could be. You know, I mean, there's obviously. Well, I mean, he murdered his children. So I was going to say there's things that can be done to children that are evil beyond, beyond comprehension. But I think that, I mean, murdering your own family, murdering your own children is the most evil thing that any human being could possibly do. And this person did it. And let's also note Clay, the transgender shooter in British Columbia, also did that. That's a very specific thing. The killing of your own family before you go on the shooting spree or the killing of your own family as the main act. That's a very specific kind of evil psychosis that, that we're talking about here. And it ruins. But even without that, it ruins families. Now you're supposed to call your dad. She. Now you're supposed to say that my husband's actually a woman and I'm okay with this and this. Clay, there are in grant in $70,000 a year private schools in New York City. There are trans day of visibility vigils. There are, hey, everybody, come out and be trans. What kind of life are you going to have when you come out and decide that you're trans and you are actually a woman, by the way, it's overwhelmingly men who are deciding to be women. The women demand thing gets far less attention for a whole bunch of reasons we can talk about. It's overwhelmingly men who think that they are women. And this is not mental illness. On what grounds is this not mental illness? You could show me a photo of the. I'm looking at a photo of him right now. If you were trying to draw up the archetype of a crazy person, it would be this person.

Clay Travis (28:56)

Yes, yes. And I just, I mean, to blow up your family and make them buy into your delusion. And when they say no, when your wife says no, you know, you're chopping your penis off like, we're going to get divorced. You're not a woman. And I can't even imagine. Can you? I mean, you imagine the kids having to deal with having a crazy person as a dad that they're supposed to affirm as. Look, if you have mental illness in your family, it's awful. But you don't say to a schizophrenic person, I just keep coming back to this, hey, everything that you think is in your head is real. In fact, if you did, it would make things far worse. And then when you don't affirm his craziness, he shows up and he kills you, like again. And then the media buck, they won't even point out the trans connections. I read that story to you. He went by two names. That's how the New York Times reports it, that when in the Canadian shooting, they would refer to the person. We played the audio for you last week, they would refer to him, right? As a. I can't even keep track of. It was a dude who pretended to be a girl and they called him she as the shooter.

Buck Sexton (30:13)

So. So, Clay, this is. I'm actually. This is true. This is. And this is in the book. And this actually applies directly to what we're talking about. Ok? Menticide murder of the mind, destruction of the mind, essentially. It's very similar to Same family as brainwashing, but a little bit different because it focuses more on the initial phase of Clay, the two pillars, confusion and degradation. Confusion and degradation. That is how you get to something like this. Not just for the person that is being menticated, but for the public, for the people around them. I give you, for example, Clay. You could have been banned from Twitter under pre Elon ownership for dead naming if you referred to a trans person's old name. So if you said Bradley Manning instead of Chelsea Manning, they would ban you from the platform for hate. Think about how insane that is. And of course, misgendering, the same thing. There are people on the left who will make the argument that misgendering is like, worse than calling someone a racial slur. Therefore, if you misgender some crazy person like this guy and they attack you, you brought it on yourself. This is the society we were forced to live in for years.

Clay Travis (31:35)

A lot of people are still living in it. And again, I would like to see a real study in depth discussing what the rates of violence are for trans people. And again, most of the time it's men deciding to identify as women, but sometimes it's women identifying as men. And the fact that we have in some way created a world where the kind thing to do is to claim that these delusions are real. I can't think of some of your psychiatrists or psychologists who listen to the program. Can you think back of any other clearly untrue thing that we have established that the kind thing to do is to affirm the falsehood? I can't even think of anything else.

Buck Sexton (32:23)

Right.

Clay Travis (32:24)

In all of society where when you know something is objectively untrue, that the kind thing to do is to pretend that it is true. I can't think. I mean, in any other facet of mental illness, there is no component where you would say, hey, the kind empathetic thing to do is to pretend that the voice, you hear the voices too, that. That you see the ghost as well. Like that.

Buck Sexton (32:49)

Well, that's exactly with schizophrenia, which. One of the hallmarks of schizophrenia is people hearing voices. Now, understand the voices are very real to that person in their brain, they are hearing voices. Okay? They're not pretending to hear the voices, they're hearing the voices. But it is going to make them feel upset. When you, a family member, or even more so, a mental health practitioner or psychiatrist says the voices are not there, that's going to be upsetting to them. But it's far worse to, as you said, say, yeah, those voices, that's right. You know, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln is talking to you right now. It's okay. You're not crazy. In fact, you're special. You're so special, we should all celebrate that. You have dead people talking to you right now in your head. Monstrous clay.

Clay Travis (33:37)

I mean, that's the world we've created. And again, I think it's important. And the most important thing I think is for everybody to understand. It is not kind to affirm falsehood, is not kind to affirm something that is untrue objectively. And we've been all sold a bill of goods that that is the idea. Because a lot of people just say, I'm not mean, I'm going to go along with this. And I think we've gone so far down the road that it's leading, unfortunately, to extreme acts of violence because a lot of other people have decided to do it. One of the graphics you were talking about earlier, there's a study out there. There's basically no trans people over the age of 30. Like they almost do not exist. And I don't think it's coincidental that it suddenly became very trendy.

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Clay Travis (36:09)

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Buck Sexton (36:19)

Welcome back into Clay and Buck Book Pub Day, everybody. So I'm talking about a lot. Clay's being very patient and supportive with me by letting me rant and rave about, although it does very much tie into the news cycle today as well as in general these days. VIP email from Warner. Buck, just to make you smile, I downloaded the audiobook while waiting for the show to start. You're on the way to number one, Warner. Thank you, and I hope all the rest of you do it. If nothing else, think of all the lib tears when we beat. Meacham's book comes out the same day. By the way, I'm a presidential historian. Donald Trump is Hitler. You want that guy to win? You want that guy to win? Like, it's funny, Yesterday, I wasn't even thinking of him. It was like, a lot of presidential historians are douchebags. Meacham's a douchebag. So hates Trump, thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks that you're deplorables for voting for him. He has a political book out today. Oh, Writings on the Republic. Let's crush it. Let's crush that book. Clay likes the competition. He knows.

Clay Travis (37:14)

Yeah, look. And Meacham is guilty of what many historians are, which is historians, if they're good, only become good 50, 60, 80, 100 years after an event because they can see the full picture. What happened in the Trump era is many different historians decided they needed to opine in real time on presidential history. The worst of this was Michael Beschelo saying, basically, if Trump won in the midterms, that people were going to be lined up and shot on this. You know, like on walls, like Nazi Germany.

Buck Sexton (37:53)

So Meacham comes from that school as a presidential historian. So that's why I'm saying, guys, his book is out today. So we have a neck and neck, neck and neck. Let's beat it, talk back. B, hit it.

Teresa (Caller) (38:04)

Hi, Clay and Buck. This is Teresa from New Braunfels, and today, President's Day is my birthday. So I want to thank Buck for the excellent timing of the release of his book. Because that is my birthday present to myself. I've pre ordered it and I'm really excited to be able to get it tomorrow. And I hope that you can continue my birthday gifting and that somehow I can get a signed copy of your book. I already have Clay signed copies. That would be the perfect birthday.

Buck Sexton (38:33)

Yeah man.

Clay Travis (38:34)

There you go. Sign the books. Go to crockett coffee.com use code book. We're going to make buck Sign as many copies as you guys will show up in class for. Meantime, you can buy it everywhere. Go give a review too, because people who hate us tend to want to review first. I put a review in. We'll see how long it takes to pop.

Buck Sexton (38:56)

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