Hour 1 - Can't Give in to Commies

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Can’t Give in to Commies
Date: July 16, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

Overview

In this hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive into the intersection of sports, politics, and national policy, anchoring their discussion on the aftermath of the England-Argentina World Cup match, significant changes in military health policy regarding testosterone testing, and the Biden-Trump divide on immigration enforcement. The hosts balance their signature lively humor with sharp analysis, tackling “woke” culture, Democrat policies, and the importance of strength—physical and national.

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World Cup Fallout & American Exceptionalism

[02:29–06:56]

• Buck laments England’s loss against Argentina, jokingly retiring from World Cup commentary due to the defeat.
  • “Very sad for us they were defeated after the, right after the show yesterday. And so I think there’ll be a lot less World Cup talk on the show because I no longer am going to be in a position where I can say I have picked an amazing team to win the whole thing.” (Buck, 02:29)
• Clay criticizes the English team’s defensive, “cowardly” strategy, drawing parallels to historical British defeats.
  • “Your boys… That’s one of the weakest, most cowardly conclusions to a game that I have seen in a very, very long time across all sports.” (Clay, 03:09)
  • “The second half for England was like Dunkirk if no one had come to rescue the British army.” (Clay, 05:53)
• Both agree that Atlanta’s World Cup hosting showcases American safety and hospitality, proving “American exceptionalism” to visitors.
  • “This summer we have used soccer to establish American exceptionalism in the eyes of many people around the world. Everybody has come and visited. It has been very safe…” (Clay, 05:06)

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U.S. Military: Testosterone Testing Policy

[06:47–09:35 | 23:00–34:32 | 40:02–42:34]

• Major Policy Shift:
  Secretary of War Pete Hegseth announces annual testosterone deficiency screening for service members over 30, with voluntary tests for those under 30.

  • “Today I’m authorizing a new screening program for testosterone deficiency for our service members, ensuring you have the right testosterone levels to operate at your absolute best.” (Hegseth via Clay, 26:04)

• Hosts’ Take:

  • Buck hails this as “spot on,” essential for peak performance and national defense.
    • “If you’re a guy in the military and you’re 40 or 45 and you want to be operating at your best, it makes a lot of sense.” (Buck, 08:22)
  • Clay calls it “healthful” and supports optimization, even suggesting super-soldier scenarios akin to “Captain America.”
    • “We need our baddest ass guys on the planet to be as badass as possible.” (Clay, 28:51)
  • Both argue physical strength is increasingly a conservative/Republican virtue, lambasting left-wing “low T” stereotypes.
    • “…most left wing guys that you come across in the media seem like they have the testosterone of a 14 year old girl. That’s just reality.” (Buck, 31:37)

• Listener Calls:
  Jeff from Connecticut (66) shares his positive experience with testosterone replacement therapy.

  • “66 years old, I get testosterone replacement therapy, get monitored every three months… feel great, can keep up in the gym and it’s wonderful.” (Jeff, 40:02)
  • Buck advises younger men and those wanting children to consult doctors, mentions human chorionic gonadotropin as an alternative that can boost testosterone and fertility.
    • “If you have low T, as a guy, it’s going to make your mood worse… There’s… you don’t have to go down that pathway.” (Buck, 41:14)

Notable Moment:

• Hosts mock the idea of “woke” gender ideology in the military, referencing the viral Elliot Page/Odyssey clip and returning repeatedly to the perceived link between leftism and low testosterone.
  • “I don’t actually think that we want soldiers running around who feel and look like they’re in an Ellen Page situation where they can’t carry their armor.” (Buck, 34:32)

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Immigration Enforcement & Political Fallout

[09:35–16:56 | 21:20–22:04]

• ICE Traffic Stops Controversy:
  Buck and Clay defend the use of vehicle stops by ICE despite recent incidents involving suspects attempting to ram officers; they denounce policy “backing off” under political pressure.

  • “You can’t give in to these communists and say, we’re not going to do vehicle stops anymore…” (Buck, 08:55)
  • “You cannot tell bad guys what they can do to avoid consequences for being bad guys…” (Clay, 10:39)

• Policy Reversal:
  After DHS internal memo suggested limiting traffic stops in Maine (a battleground state), Trump swiftly reverses the decision.

  • “Trump came back, overruled this decision. That was an internal memo within DHS. The traffic stops are back. I just want to say Clay and Buck get results. The President agrees with us.” (Buck, 10:38)

• Political Analysis:
  Clay identifies the Maine location as the reason for the swift policy reversal, due to its political sensitivity compared to Texas.

  • “I think the fact that this happened in a battleground location where a Senate race is ongoing made the politics of it particularly fraught.” (Clay, 11:30)

• Support for Law Enforcement:
  Tom Homan (former ICE Director) warns of violence if Democrats continue to undermine ICE, stating:

  • “Dems… want to continually attack ICE and tell people to evade them, tell people don’t comply… There’s still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth.” (Tom Homan, played by Buck, 15:26)

• Local Reaction:
  Rob from Houston calls in, noting the high local support for deportation and revealing details of a Texas ICE case involving drugs and a Soros-backed DA.

  • “The esteemed illegal alien apparently had methamphetamines in the van when he was picked up… We have a Soros funded DA down here that wants to do an investigation.” (Rob, 21:20)

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Trump’s Prime Time Address & Election Interference Claims

[13:18–14:13]

• Upcoming Speech:
  Clay reports that Trump is set to deliver a prime-time address focusing on Chinese interference in U.S. elections; media’s willingness to cover it remains uncertain.
  • “President Trump is going to have a primetime address tonight where reports are that he is going to address Chinese interference in our election, particularly 2020, and how it might have impacted the overall results…” (Clay, 13:18)
  • Buck wonders if this will launch a “China collusion” narrative as opposed to the former “Russia collusion.” (14:10)

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Political Commentary: Age & Leadership

[24:53–26:04]

• The hosts critique the current “gerontocracy”—elderly leadership among senators and the presidency, referencing Biden’s “humiliating” DoD, and past incidents of leaders vanishing from the public eye due to health.
  • “Think about how much of a gerontocracy we have become… We have senators who are too old. We have too many people who are not in fighting form mentally…” (Buck, 25:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck (on World Cup loss):
  “Refusing to fight back is not a brilliant strategy when you are in a fight.” (Buck, 05:43)

• Clay (on policy shifts):
  “…this is a no brainer. We should want our troops to be as healthy as possible.” (Clay, 30:44)

• Buck (on testosterone & politics):
  “If you actually addressed low T in a lot of these men in the media, they would start being more conservative. Everyone who understands hormone therapy replacement would be like, ‘Yep, the data would support that.’” (Buck, 32:43)

• Clay (on cultural divides):
  “I do think strength is going to be characterized as a Republican virtue in general for men. And I think weakness is going to be a Democrat virtue or lack thereof.” (Clay, 33:20)

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Host Announcements

• YouTube Live Launch:
  Clay announces the show’s full live video now available on YouTube, with robust engagement from their “kids-as-testers” and the younger generation.

  • “This is the very first week that we have been doing this… If you have kids or grandkids and you ask them… what’s their favorite media platform, I would be stunned if their answer is not YouTube.” (Clay, 19:53)

• Upcoming Guests:
  Tommy Lahren and Caroline Leavitt will join in later hours to continue the immigration and White House coverage discussions.

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Conclusion

This edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show blends sharp critiques of left-wing policy and culture with energetic banter about major headlines, especially focusing on military policy, law enforcement, public health, and cultural divides between the right and left. At its core, the message is one of unapologetic strength—physical, institutional, and ideological—demanding listeners and policymakers alike “can’t give in to commies.”

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Congrats to you Argentina fans out there. Very sad day for those of us who are on the jolly old England train. Very sad for us they were defeated after the, right after the show yesterday. And so I think there'll be a lot less World cup talk on the show because I no longer am going to be in a position where I can say that I have picked an amazing team to win the whole thing. So we can just forget all about my prediction, which was, Clay, you were at the game.

[Clay Travis]

I was at the game. Your boys, the jolly old England, that's one of the weakest, most cowardly conclusions to a game that I have seen in a very, very long time across all sports. England, for those of you who didn't watch, and it was amazing game, England got a 10 lead and basically went into like a fetal position and just tried to protect that lead. They're playing against the greatest soccer player of all time. And they just, they had what, 12,

[Buck Sexton]

probably the best offense, the best offense of all time. This would be, to put it in football terms for everybody, this would be, you are up one touchdown, not five touchdown. You're up one touchdown. And for the second half of the entire football game, you're like, I have this amazing idea. Let's just run a prevent defense the entire time and not try to score ourselves. We're going to punch them every, we're going to punch every play on every play and we're going to run prevent on defense. It was Clay, the fact that that coach makes $8 million a year, it was the single most, it was the worst malpractice from a coaching perspective in sports I've ever seen. But a lot of you don't care, so we're not going to spend much time on this today. We will just say the World cup is pretty much over as far as I'm concerned. Spain's playing Argentina, Iran, Iraq, war. For me, I wish they could both lose. And there you go.

[Clay Travis]

I, I, it was an amazing scene. Great event. Atlanta has done a fantastic job. I do think President Trump's going to be interviewed before the World cup for the conclusion on Sunday. And I do think you have to give a tremendous amount of credit to Andrew Giuliani, who we've had on this program quite a lot. There are two games left. They play a third place game which is like the, the, that's, that's absurd.

[Buck Sexton]

That's absurd. No one cares.

[Clay Travis]

The saddest game.

[Buck Sexton]

They should put us, they should put us in there just for the LOLs

[Clay Travis]

and, but the championship, the, the, the game in New York is going to be awesome. And I do think this summer we have used soccer to establish American exceptionalism in the eyes of many people around the world. Everybody has come and visited. It has been very safe that we're on track to have the greatest attendance. And the television viewership for those who haven't been able to go to a game has been outstanding. So all that is good. But Buck's beloved England has gone down. It was, like I said, the battle of Yorktown in, in many ways for, for the. For the British boys.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. It turns out. Well, it turns out refusing to fight back is not a brilliant strategy when you are in a fight. So I could not.

[Clay Travis]

You'll appreciate this historical analogy. Piers Morgan is in hiding, I think as one of the foremost English soccer fans on the planet. I texted, tweeted him that basically the second half for England was like Dunkirk if no one had come to rescue the British army, which I think is a pretty good historical analogy.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah, no, that, that, that is. It was rough. Okay. I know you, some of you, you're going to be so happy because we're done. I don't care about the World cup now anymore. A lot of you didn't care the whole time. There you go. I was just going to do a victory dance if England won the whole thing because that would have been an incredible prediction that I would have made from the very start of the tournament. And nonetheless, they ripped my heart out. I'm very sad. Let's talk about America. Ok, let's dive into what we got going on here. First of all, I love this new policy in progress from the dod. It's going to be the TRTDOD testosterone replacement.

[Clay Travis]

We were texting about this.

[Buck Sexton]

This is incredible. Secretary of War Hegseth who I'm going to tell you, when I met Pete 15 years ago, there was zero chance he could bench 315 pounds. Just going to tell you this.

[Clay Travis]

Zero chance he benched 15 years ago.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I would have get. I would have bet money that I could have benched more than him 15 years ago. So that should tell you something. So he's benching 3:15 now. He is, I can tell you, a fan of hormone replacement therapy.

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[Buck Sexton]

That's very obvious. And those who have gone down this pathway have an understanding of this. It is. Well, we'll. We'll be joined. Do we have rut guys later on with us on this one? Oh, he's on vac. I think he's on. He's, he's actually literally on safari right now. I think he's. He's chasing lions. Hopefully not actually wrestling them. With his bare hands. Although with Rut, you never know. But he is. He is overseas. Point here being guys, they're. They're looking at doing a testosterone check as part of the annual medical eval for men in the military, and they're going to change the approach to hrt. We will talk more about that later. I absolutely love this, though. As an idea, it makes a lot of sense. It's not a mandate for anybody. And if your testosterone is healthy, there's no one's. No doctor is going to say, you know, oh, you're 30 years old, or you're 25 years old. Your testosterone level is 750 or 800 nanograms a decaliter. I think that's what the, you know, NGL.

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[Buck Sexton]

No one's gonna say, oh, my gosh, we need to start doing more. But if you're a guy in the military and you're 40 or 45 and you want to be operating at your best, it makes a lot of sense. Okay, There is that part of it. But, Clay, one thing yesterday I talked a bit about. First of all, did you hear the discussion on the squatting? I got a lot of response on that one. The squatting show.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I. I saw that you were tweeting about this in the context of. This is you being in a hotel room and just scrolling through on the guide, and you just pick the random show to watch. And you've been. You've been obsessed with this show.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, I love this. I love this. I'm not the only one we've invited this guy on. We can get to that later. But the squatting thing is really taken off something else that I talked about. We talked about the top of the show, which was they can't back off of this policy on immigration. Let's get into immigration. Let's get into some. Some top line items here. Clay, we were discussing immigration yesterday in the first hour of the program, and I was saying. And you agreed and saying, look, you can't give in to these communists and say, we're not going to do vehicle stops anymore because there's been two incidents where people allegedly tried to ram ICE officers with their cars and they got shot. By the way, if you tried to ram your local sheriff with your car, you are likely to get shot, and that is a lawful shooting.

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[Buck Sexton]

I mean, this is not a complicated matter. Assuming the facts line up in that way. Some people were saying, why are you being so hard? I don't know if you saw some of this. There was a little Bit of chirping. Why are you, why are you complaining about. About this? It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's not fine. And we know that because Trump himself has come out with the following. Clay. The men and women of ice. This was on. On Truth are doing a great job. Crime is way down. The open border policy of sleepy Joe allowed 25 million. Whoa. People to pour into our country. Many were criminals. We have to get them tough, et cetera. The traffic stop. We cannot give up on one of ISIS most important and effective crime fighting tools, the traffic stop. He's saying here. I won't read the whole thing because it's pretty long. But Clay Trump came back, overruled this decision. That was an internal memo within dhs. The traffic stops are back. I just want to say Clay and Buck get results. The President agrees with us.

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You can't.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, this to me is just very basic. You cannot tell bad guys what they can do to avoid consequences for being bad guys. Because some people are going to be surprised by this. Many of you who worked in law enforcement are not. The bad guys often know exactly what the law is and will use the law to their advantage when it comes to how are the. How much drugs are they carrying? They'll know mandatory minimum laws. They'll know. They'll sometimes have people who are underage be doing things for them because those guys have less significant consequences if they're caught. You can't tell people, hey, if you get in a car and flee, we're no longer going to be pursuing you. Because the worst thing you could do is actually create more of these situations. Buck. Which is exactly what this will do because it encourages people to know exactly what they have to do to avoid being taken into custody by ice. So I think this was a. This was a mishap. I do think the design. Buck, the fact that this happened in Maine, I do think politically there was a concern that this was going to be difficult for Susan Collins to reconcile. And if this had happened in like we saw happen in Texas, I don't think there was any rapid try to address that situation. I think the fact that this happened in a battleground location where a Senate race is ongoing made the politics of it particularly fraught. And I think that's the underlying basis upon which this decision was made. But I think they got to the right result after 24 hours. A bit of confusion.

[Buck Sexton]

Right. I would just note, though, that for anyone who is. Who was emailing in, shut up. It's fine. Well, no, actually.

[Clay Travis]

Was that actually happening? Were people upset that we were calling this?

[Buck Sexton]

There were, there were some who saying, we're being. Don't be critical of the administration on this. No, we absolutely should be critical of the administration on this. Trump knew, I mean, when I say the administration, that's not just Trump. He has all these people who have to do things. This was a decision made below, you know, the Trump level. And he, as soon as it was brought to his attention, obviously, he was like, guys, what are you doing? We got to keep doing this. So cause and effect. Right? You know, you got to bring these things up to get people to see what's happening. Because the deportation issue is absolutely. Essentially, by the way, do we have Tommy Lahren on later? Because she wants to weigh in on.

[Clay Travis]

We got her at 1 o'. Clock.

[Buck Sexton]

We got Tommy Lahren joining us at 1 o'.

[Clay Travis]

Clock.

[Buck Sexton]

We've also got another blonde who will be on at one o'. Clock, Caroline Levitt back from. That's what we call a transition back to a White House press secretary role.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, she's back from maternity leave for baby number two. So she will be having a press availability. And I would say the biggest news that is out there is President Trump is going to have a primetime address tonight where reports are that he is going to address Chinese interference in our election, particularly 2020, and how it might have impacted the overall results of the 2020 election. So are the networks going to cover it? That is one question. There's been a lot of pushback. I haven't seen the official determination, but this morning, as I was doing my prep, there was pushback against the idea that they were going to cover it. And what is the fallout going to be of these, of these comments and how detailed are they going to be from the president as it pertains to the election? I,

[Buck Sexton]

I hope that this. Well, we'll see.

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[Buck Sexton]

I'll, I'll just, I'll wait and see. How about that? Let's see what is presented here. But it will be China collusion instead of Russia collusion, it sounds like. So we'll be entering a new phase of that discussion. And here's. By the way, Tom Holman has weighed in on this, specifically on the ice shootings. And you guys all know, and I say it just so I'm on the record. I'm a Tom Holman fan. The guy is the real deal and is totally dedicated to the mission. This is cut 24. Listen to what he had to say about the shooting. I'm scared to death because a social vehicles are sky high. There's been a lot of shootings. I'm scared to death that one of these days IRS officers aren't going to be quick enough. The bad guys will be quicker, and I'm going to hand another folded flag to a spouse or a child. So, you know, President Trump's clear, this policy is not going away. But it all goes back to the Dems who want to continually attack ICE and tell people to evade them, tell people don't comply, tell people to resist and tell people ICE doesn't real law enforcement. You and I talked about this a year and a half ago, Laura. I said if the hateful Rhettic didn't stop, there will be bloodshed. And I'm saying it right now, there's still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth. Clay this is the critical point of many things that Homan said there. But Democrats encouraging people to resist so they can get some political issues, they can maybe get something on video or, or even just news reports in the preliminary for their own political purposes. They're sending people into lethal force situations on purpose.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, yes. The goal is to create more Renee Goods. More Alex Predis. They want there to be deaths. They want there. They want there to be violence because if that occurs, they get their viral video, which to them is representative of why what ICE is doing is abhorrent. I do think this kind of ties in with your manufacturing delusion book. It is worth constantly reinforcing that Democrats have come to the position that they must risk life and limb to keep people who are illegally here from being removed from our country. And that that is a position that virtually no Democrat in America would have had as recently as what, 2000? I mean, Obama ran on deportations in 2008 and even 2012. This is a radical change in the Democrat Party. That orthodoxy now of their entire left wing guys here is that they have to stand up and prevent people illegally here from being taken out of the country. It's, it's really radical that this has become mainstream in any way.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in. I want to remind everybody that we are now live on YouTube. This is the very first week that we have been doing this. The kids are impressed. And by the kids, I mean my kids, they actually said, this is pretty good, dad. And you can now watch. I asked them, I sent them, they're the experts. They spend all day on YouTube. If you have kids or grandkids and you ask them right now what's their favorite media platform, I would be stunned if their answer is not YouTube. That's how popular it is with them.

[Buck Sexton]

I was gonna say they're impressed though, with, with your, you know, dad is looking pretty cool, huh, Link.

[Clay Travis]

I said, hey, do you have any feedback? Anything we can do? And they were impressed. So you can watch all three hours. You can comment in real time as well in there. And the audiences have been very, very good. We're gonna continue to refine it, get it better and better. I am waving to you. You go search out Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, Clay and Buck. You type it in on YouTube. Boom. You can go easily subscribe and you can hang out with us for all three hours on video as well. And we love those of you that are continuing to listen on audio too. Yes. And Rob in Houston, by the way, is pointing out one of the shootings in the. In Texas, I believe. Rob, you can hit us with the details quickly. I saw this headline that the individual who was shot in Houston had drugs in the car, right? A lot of them, yes.

[Buck Sexton]

The esteemed illegal alien apparently had methamphetamines in the van when he was picked up. So that would also explain why somebody might try to evade cops additionally to their status. There are. They're an alleged drug dealer. So you're not just facing deportation, you're facing a possible prison sentence or maybe why the FBI or the or ICE was following him anyway. Also true. You know, also we have a Soros funded DA down here that wants to do an investigation. Of course the district attorney has no authorization over federal agents, but it's not stopping him. Press is trying to whip up the people to have another George Floyd moment. I don't think people in Houston are going to have any part of it.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you for the call. I don't think this is going to play in Texas because Texans by and large support the deportation of illegal immigrants. But again, I think the main political tension is different and I think that's one of the reasons their response was so rapid. Look, I rely on pure talk to stay in touch with my family. I was just mentioning my kids, my two oldest, 18 and 15 years old. They have pure talk phones and I rely on it to stay in touch with them. Right now we've got the best offer that PureTalk has ever put out there. $15 a month for your first three months. That's a savings of up to 150 bucks when you make the switch. Again, $15 a month for your first 3 months. That's how much they believe that you will love their products. Switch and you get awesome deal. £250, say Clay and Buck to be connected to PureTalk's U.S. customer service team. Same phone and same phone number. £250, say clay and buck.

[Buck Sexton]

Talking a little bit today about chemistry. Chemistry is very important. Those of you who are fans of the of the TV show Breaking Bad know that that was probably the most famous chemist in pop culture of our of our lifetime. Heisenberg was what he called himself in the show. It is a great show. I would argue it's on Almost every top 10 list of the 21st century for television shows I've ever seen. A lot of people put it at number one. Number two, so it's a fantastic show. Chemistry matters a whole heck of a lot. And there's a couple of ways we could come at this conversation today. One is certainly the Hegseth announcement about what's going on now with dod. Now, this is, this is a number of things coming together at one time. One is just the the Secretary of Warhegseth focus on a mentality of lethality for the DoD and returning it to the roots of fighting. This is, we don't want to be fighting all over the world. We don't want to be in wars but preparing for that. It's not a social justice experiment. It's not a place where we park people who couldn't do jobs elsewhere in the government or in the private sector. It is about efficiency in fighting and lethality. And that is what the whole ethos shift has been. I mean, Claire, think about not only did you have before this the Secretary of Defense who was walking around with the face mask and the shield out in front. Remember this under the Biden administration, it was humiliating, which was, which was, I mean, preposterous.

[Clay Travis]

And by the way, then, remember, he also vanished and was in the hospital unable to be able to be reached and didn't notify anybody. He was being treated for a relatively serious, I think, medical condition that required hospitalization. And he didn't even tell everybody that he was in the hospital. They didn't know where he was.

[Buck Sexton]

Think about how much of a gerontocracy we have become a rule by the old in a society. When you have our senators now and a former president essentially aging out with either sudden, sudden illness or dementia. This is a broad, this is a two party conversation. By the way, this isn't just Democrats. Biden was the and it's particularly egregious for a president to have dementia. But we have senators who are too old. We have too many people who are not in fighting form mentally who were in positions of power and authority. That was certainly the case before with the Biden DoD, but we're changing some of the policies now under the Dow Department of War and Secretary of War Hegseth made an announcement here about testosterone levels. Play cut 6 today I'm authorizing a

[Clay Travis]

new screening program for testosterone deficiency for our service members, ensuring you have the right testosterone levels to operate at your absolute best. Because it's well established science that as we age, testosterone levels often naturally drop under the supervision of our world class medical professionals. War fighters age 30 and older are going to be tested annually as part of their periodic health assessment. It's a health assessment that happens every year.

[Buck Sexton]

We're just adding this test.

[Clay Travis]

Those under 30 can voluntarily choose to get the test as well if treatment is recommended. It's entirely your choice to receive testosterone replacement therapy.

[Buck Sexton]

So let me give you some stats everybody. Again, AI One of my favorite things, it's so good at pulling stats data really quickly and unlike Google, it's not first of all, left wing propaganda. And second of all, it's not just endless ads and nonsense. Clay Roughly 20 to 40% of American men over 30 over 30 have low testosterone. 25% is a widely accepted figure. Now we're going to start making all these jokes like just turn on CNN or listen to the guys at NPR or go listen to most left wing, you know, podcasters that are out there and you'll immediately notice that there is a difference between the prevalence of low testosterone like like apparently from their attitudes, often from their appearance, low testosterone on the left and on the right. It's not obviously a one to one comparison. There are, you know, left wing bodybuilders and I get it. But there is a significant correlation that is becoming increasingly apparent. We can get into that a little bit. CLAY I would also just point out that this is now we're all talking about the Odyssey and you have what's Ellen Payton now, Elliot.

[Clay Travis]

Ellen Page Elliot used to Be.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh no, a dead name. So sad. Elliot Page playing a man in the Odyssey. A, I guess a Greek soldier running in armor. And this clip is now circulating everywhere. It doesn't work. I mean it looks like a teenage girl running in a suit of armor. You know why? Yeah, because of the difference in male chemistry and the testosterone building period of adolescence that men have. My point of bringing that up is not. We can get into the woke stuff, Clay. It makes a huge difference, a huge difference in how you can function in your strength and everything else. So I think the DoD is spot on with this.

[Clay Travis]

I, I love this. First of all, I just think it's healthful, right? We, we need our baddest ass guys on the planet to be as badass as possible. You actually took a step further, which I think is super interesting and said out it's almost like Captain America style. Our foremost door kickers out there, right? The seals of the world, the, the most advanced. Many of those guys are already taking all sorts of supplements, legal and illegal, that take them to the next level because they're competing to be the baddest ass people on the planet and they have advanced knowledge on how to maximize their performance. Right? That's what their job requires.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean if you're in a frontline combat unit of any kind, where physical strength, endurance and recovery are about life and death, I, I would make, and I'm not just making this case out of thin air. I've talked to guys from the most elite special operations teams about this and I've never heard any of them say we shouldn't be able to optimize our again with under doctor supervision. And I mean people will say oh, but what about all these side effects and stuff? How old is Arnold schwarzenegger? He's like 80 now, isn't he? I mean he's like late 70s or something. I mean he's 76 or something.

[Clay Travis]

I think he's 80ish.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he might be 80 years old. Okay, he's fine. And he was the governor of California. That guy was taking enough steroids to kill an elephant. But he actually knew what he was doing and he, he understood, you know, the, the process for bodybuilding and stuff. People are made to think that these things it like, like so many things play the, the, the poison is in the dosage so to speak. If you don't know what you're doing, you can really, you can give yourself a heart attack, you can have terrible side effects, all kinds of things. But with medical supervision you would just Be enhancing. So I know I'm going a step.

[Clay Travis]

No, no, I would, I would just go to this point, Buck. The guys are getting shot at, right? The immediate threat to their life is that someone is trying to kill them. If you gave me a choice, and I think most of those guys out there listening right now, if you gave me a choice and I could be optimized when people are trying to kill me to make it more likely that I am going to live through the intense combat situations that I may well be involved in. But 30 years from now there might be a consequence to my health. I'll take that risk because I want to be at the absolute apex of my ability when I am in the absolute most danger. And I, I just think this is a no brainer. We should want our troops to be as healthy as possible. Remember Bach? And I think this is, this is important. Remember when they did the T level testing of the NPR radio guys?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this, this is where, this is where the Democrats, you'll have like the, like the pod save bros, for example, get very angry if they hear people on the right talking about this. And those guys actually seem pretty like they, they don't seem like the NPR guys to me. To be fair. They seem like normal guys. But most left wing guys that you come across in the media seem like they have the testosterone of a 14 year old girl. That's just reality. And they can, people can get angry about this, but you know, and then there's like that Turkish communist that they're foisting on us all the time in the media from the left. This guy, I mean he's clearly taken stuff in the past. So it's like, I get it, not everyone is, is going to be in this, you know, in this mold. But the reality is there's a difference between man right and left when it comes to testosterone levels. You could do the randomized trial that you could do on this or the randomized testing. I should say you can do this, Clay would be hilarious. Another point, if you actually addressed low T and a lot of these men in the media, they would start being more conservative. Everyone who understands hormone therapy replacement would be like, yep, the data would support that.

[Clay Travis]

Here is, here's an easy way. I'll kind of sum it up. I continue to travel and be blown away by the number of people wearing masks every time I go to New York, every time I go to la. If I said to you, how many Republicans, how many Trump voters do you think are wearing a mask anywhere in America? Are there Any that are still like wearing masks regularly. And here's another. So I think if you were trying to decide how somebody voted entirely just based on looking at them, I think you could largely say that someone wearing a mask almost assuredly voted for Kamala. Right. And if you just are walking through an airport, I would bet the number of guys that can bench press buck, £225 or more, that's two plates on the side for those of you out there. And Lyft and vote for Democrats is almost non existent. Right. A lot of these guys would just not vote. Right. Because they're young, typically and athletic. They may not be particularly plugged in, but I do think strength is going to be characterized as a Republican virtue in general for men. And I think weakness is going to be a Democrat virtue or lack thereof for men too. And I think a lot of that has to do with testosterone levels. I would love to see this study. If you just went to men and you analyze their testosterone, I bet you could almost definitively predict how they vote.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it's. Yeah, I think it's true in a lot of cases. Meaning that I think it would be statistically significant. And again, you know, we don't have to get hate tweets from like some left wing bodybuilder. I know they exist and everything. This is about what is true on average, but in a way that is meaningful, which affects the way that people think in groups and on, you know, kind of large, large scale.

[Clay Travis]

Arnold will be buck 79 years old this month.

[Buck Sexton]

Right. And on the, I can tell you from my own experience just seeing active duty, a lot of active duty military guys in the G Watt era and then some of the contractors, the Blackwater esque guys, if you will. Some of those guys were juicing like crazy because they weren't being, you know, nobody was drug testing those guys and they look like he man. And you know, I don't think that they were upset about it. You know, I think that they felt like it was helpful for their jobs carrying around £70 of gear and the, you know, plate armor and, and also here's, here's a, here's a real test for you. You are in a Humvee that has been hit by an IED and it's on fire and every second counts and you're either going to get out of there, you know, okay, or you know, God forbid, something you're going to, you know, we all know what's going. You're staying there. Do you want the guy who's reaching to grab you. Are you going to be upset if you find out that he's been biochemically enhanced with Pentagon oversight to be basically super physiologically strong? I wouldn't be upset about that. I'd be like, I want the strongest guy on the planet, if I can, to be grabbing me out of that Humvee that is on fire. And so I just, I don't understand what the objection to it. And now that, by the way, that's a step. Pete's just talking about hormone replacement for people who have a medical deficiency. And also there's all kinds of stuff, you know, we can we invite Dr. Dr. Hovind on guys. She wrote a book on testosterone which I've read and is fantastic. And you know what the best part of the book is, Clay? It is pure undisputed science. She got hate from the left, including scientists for writing it. Of course, it's, it's just about what testosterone does. She wrote a factual book about testosterone and she was maligned for telling people the truth about it. And it has to do with so many things, your mood and everything else. So I love that the Dow is doing this. And yeah, I don't actually think that we want soldiers running around who feel and look like they're in an Ellen Page situation where they can't carry their armor. Like that's not a good thing. That's not helpful for anybody. So yeah, I don't know. There we go. It's important. I know, I know. Fired up about this. I'm also fired up about super sure business owners. Who do you rely on for business insurance? Probably a friendly, smiling broker who shows up once a year. But guess what? You don't just work once a year. Your business operates year round. So what's covered, what's not, what coverage do you need? What enhancements should you add onto it? This is where super sure comes in. So look, I'm talking to anybody involved in getting business insurance. So yeah, that's owners, CEOs, but it's also CFOs, HR directors from any company with more than 25 employees. Okay, because then you absolutely need to get Super Sure. Super sure is licensed in every state for your business insurance and employee benefits, all with year round support for you and your team. No additional cost. Super sure also has a fine print fax tool. Translate your current policy into plain English. CC what's covered and what's not. Go to super sure.com buck see why growing businesses are moving beyond traditional brokers. That's super sure.com Buck paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, LLC, a licensed insurance agency looking for normal in a

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay and Buck. We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. We got a bunch of callers who want to weigh in variety of different topics. Tommy Lahren's gonna join us top of the next hour. That should be fun to talk about a wide variety of topics with all of us. But let's play a couple of these people are reacting to the conversation we just had about the testosterone therapy T level checks for the Department of War. Jeff in Connecticut, fire away.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, 66 years old, I get testosterone replacement therapy, get monitored every three months. They also monitor for the high estrogen levels and it's been great, feel great, can keep up in the gym and it's wonderful.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm gonna tell you something you said,

[Clay Travis]

sorry, we may have lost him.

[Buck Sexton]

Jeff's with us. Jeff, when do you start? I Started five years ago and it's been terrific. I get monitored every three months. They check for my levels and then they also check for the estrogen level because that can cause that can get high. If you're on replacement therapy. Yeah. The doc might put you on an estrogen blocker for that. For those of you out there, there's ways they can handle it. It's actually. Anyway, that's.

[Clay Travis]

That's buck you're an expert on. We should say this because check with your doctors, as always, but if you're a young guy, you got to be careful because if you want to have kids, this can factor in. I just want, you know, some of these people out there. If you're 35 and you're listening to us and you don't have kids yet, it's different than if you're 55 and you've already had a bunch of kids. That's a very different world view. You need to be aware of that. If you're trying to have kids or

[Buck Sexton]

want to have kids, there's something that, again, talk to your doctor. Not medical advice, just sharing information here. There's something that some people take with great efficacy, can boost your testosterone 50 to 100%, called human chorionic gonadotropin. It's actually a female pregnancy hormone. And your doctor can prescribe this for you. And it does not affect. It should not affect fertility, if anything, and actually increases fertility. But. So that's another option for people. I'm just going to tell you this. If you have low T, as a guy, you are going to have. It's going to make your mood worse. You're going to gain fat, particularly gain fat in the chest area, which is really not fun because your estrogen level is going to be high. You're going to start getting man boobs. You're going to have less energy. You're going to need to take naps in the afternoon. You go down this whole list. You don't have to. There's, you know, you don't have to go down that pathway if you don't want to. And certainly if you're in the military, there's no reason to for you. And people who say, oh, just change your diet, they don't know what they're talking about. If you're 50 years old, changing your diet is not going to turn this stuff around. If you have super low tea. So they're just. They don't know anything anyway. That is a conversation we can continue to have the second hour. People passionate about this stuff, but Tommy Lahren will be with us, and I'm sure she likes a high TRT dod.

[Clay Travis]

So I saw Lisa Booth say, can we make high testosterone mandatory for all men?

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