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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome in, everybody, to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Oh, the immigration situation, my friends, it is heating up. Getting very interesting right now. Got a whole range of things to talk about with that. Clay's in our Nation's capital in D.C. so he might bring us some ground truth from the White House, the Capitol itself, all of that good stuff. In the meantime, we have the US freezing all visa processing for 75 countries, including Somalia, Russia, Iran, Nigeria, Thailand, Brazil, a whole lot an indefinite pause starting January 21st. By the way, Nigeria. That reminds me of something. The opening of my book Manufacturing Delusion deals with my first deployment by the agency overseas to Nigeria. In fact, a long time ago. So I get to talk to you about that in the book. Cleared it. Everything fine. It was wild, wild stuff I could tell you, but if you want the details, you got to go get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion. So, yes, I have a particular memories and even built up some expertise of jihadism in west. In West Africa, specifically northern Nigeria, where Boko Haram became one of the most deadly terrorist groups in the world. Anyway, I thought that was a good moment to tell you all. Manufacturing Delusion. Go get your copy. We have a link up@clayandbuck.com please buy them in preorder so that we. Guys, we got to hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list. I'm just going to call it right now. Calling the shot. Gotta hit number one. No better book is coming out in February. I'm just going to say it. And I took years to write this thing. It is good. It is short. It is not a dense, hard read. It is not meant to be something that just collects dust. So please go get your copy of Manufacturing Delusion. It's about political madness, including jihadism, but also, of course, communism and all kinds of things. How they make you believe this stuff. So go check that out. All right. Now back to. Back to the immigration situation, as we're calling it here today. The US experienced net negative migration in 2025. That is the first time in 50 years. That's a really big deal. This is a really big deal for a number of reasons we will dive into. You also have Trump announcing sanctuary cities and states are going to lose federal funding on February 1st. We'll talk about Iran as well later on in the program, Clay, and I'll dive into that with you. I'll just say this about Iran. We are hoping for the overthrow of the mullahs. That doesn't mean that I want us to overthrow the mullahs. Just to be clear, it means that Trump is looking at his options right now. There's a whole range of options. Helping with comms, cyberattacks, undermining the repression infrastructure, but letting the Iranian people do the job. But it's tough to get a lot of ground truth because we don't have reporters on the ground. I mean, not that that would necessarily be ground truth. A lot of them are rooting against this is the sad truth. And you know this. A lot of the so called mainstream reporters are rooting against this happening right now in Iran because Trump would, of course, especially after the strike on the nuclear facilities, get some degree of the credit and they would rather 90 million Iranians live in perpetual misery than Trump get to take yet another well deserved bow on the world stage. So that's something that we're also watching very closely. But I wanted to dive into this immigration situation because I believe that this is truly the future of the country in the balance. And I've thought this for a long time. In fact, this is why, going back now about a decade, I've made a real effort to get down to the border to speak to border patrol agents, to see with my own eyes, to hear with my own ears what is really happening, what the truth is here. And they were, there was so much going on, there were so many lies told about this. And one of the biggest lies of all has been there's nothing we can do. It is now inevitable that our sovereignty will slowly disintegrate, that we will no longer be a nation of laws or even an American people. America will slowly but surely slide into an economic zone and a massive welfare state and a place where everyone, it seems, except native born Americans are allowed to engage in a whole lot of tribalism, ethnic, national tribalism. So they come here. We see this in Somalia. And the community by and large embraces not only getting free stuff as new arrivals, but stealing some stuff too. A lot of that going on with the Somali community in Minnesota. As you see it, I think something like 70% of the Somali Americans in Minnesota are on welfare. That is just unacceptable. It's unacceptable that the number is that high. It's also unacceptable that we have brought in a community of people. Remember, they'll say, oh, well, a lot of them are native born here in America. Well, their first generation after the Somali refugee wave of the 1990s, they should be now in a better position to not be unwell. What is this perpetual welfare stuff that is going on for immigrants, people who have come here that we have chosen to take into this country that are supposed to have tremendous gratitude that the whole system has been turned upside down and Trump is finally doing something about it. Here's why this is such a big deal and here's why the Democrats are now, you see, digging in and fighting like mad, truly with madness in their eyes, to stop these enforcement operations from going on. If we prove that it can work, then it is clear going forward to the American people that this is a choice, right? That this is, is a decision that is made. We have seen that now with the Biden administration and the 10 plus million illegals who came into the country. And I understand they were scamming our system, pretending they're going to get asylum. Their initial entry into the country was illegal, okay? So their first act on U.S. soil, literally their first act on U.S. soil because their presence itself breaks the law, was illegal. But then they get put into this system and this was meant to overwhelm it. We have millions and millions of cases backlogged now of people claiming they're never going to get asylum. The whole point is then they're going to have a kid here, they're going to make ties into their community, and they're going to say, how dare you try to kick me out. Why do we have an immigration system and all? Trump secured the border. Trump made that determination that it was possible and was determined enough to see it through. It is a huge win in 2025. And that's why I noted for the first time, net migration of the country down in 50 years, because that includes the legal migrants into the country, because we take in a million legal migrants a year. And I'm going to tell you what we see from the situation in Minnesota and elsewhere. It's too many. We have not been selective enough. This country, our immigration laws, in fact, explicitly state. You can go check this yourself. Explicitly state that we are. That our government is supposed to assess the risk of welfarism in the people we allow into the country. And they're not supposed to let people in who are likely to be what is called a public charge. They've completely abandoned that. In fact, the Democrats want as many public charges as possible. They want more and more people who come into this country and are going to be dependent on state benefits are going to buy into the race. Communism that is the central ethos. Race and gender communism that are the central ethoses is. I don't know if that's the plural of the Democrat Party and therefore are going to build their power base. And this is what you see. I mean, if you look at Mamdani, for example, who just won in New York, now he can't run for president because he wasn't born in this country. So we got that going for us, which is nice. But Mamdani overwhelmingly won with people not born in this country. People born in America note different races, different genders, everything. There's only two genders, but maybe men and women. People born in this country were far less likely to fall for Mamdaniism. It was people that had just arrived because increasingly what this is treated as is a spoil system. What we see is a Democrat Party that says, your country, maybe it's crappy, it's our fault. And by that they mean it is traditional America's fault. Right? People that have been in this country for generations, they, it's our fault that your country sucks. Therefore, it is our obligation to bring you in. You don't have to learn English, you don't have to contribute, you don't have to do anything. Just come here, get on the public dole as fast as you can, get those public benefits going as fast as you can, and then if you can't vote, certainly ensure that your, your future generations will be showing their gratitude to the Democrat Party in these multi generational welfare households by voting Democrat. It's a really straightforward system. Why are the Democrats so upset about what's going on? Now? Trump sees this and is not going to allow it to continue because it is a scam, it is a swindle, it is defrauding the American people and we're all sick of it. Okay? I have to go through all kinds of. Jump through all kinds of hoops and all this stuff constantly to stay in compliance with my businesses, with my job, with my investments, with my taxes. You all have the same thing. You might own the local auto body shop in your town, you might work for a company with 50,000 employees, but you're doing all these things that you have to do. And if you don't, bad things happen to you. They destroy your credit, their creditors come after you, they take your house, maybe they take you off to jail, you pay all these fines, but if you come here from the rest of the world, you just show up. Ah, do you get an ER bill if you go in the er? No, of course not. No one thinks you're going to pay that. Do we set up special tutors in your child's language paid for by the taxpayer? So they don't have to even learn English when they go into school. Yeah, of course. English is a second language. There we go. You just go down the whole system. Do you, do these people get in trouble for not filing taxes? The crazy part is, I might add, if they did file taxes, they would get money back from the federal government. Think about that. Most people that we're talking about, when you're looking at the illegal situation, these are individuals who would get a check in addition to all the other if they file, but they can't file because they're illegal. This is crazy. This is, this is just wrong. But at its core, this is driven by two forces. The rest of the world thinking of America. Now, I say, when I say the rest of the world, it's not everybody, obviously, but it's people. It's those who seek to scam our system, as we have seen. It is those who have perpetuated the Somali fraud. It is those who have decided that they are going to steal Covid funds, for example. I mean, that's, that's happened all over the place. It's those who are doing all these different things to take from the taxpayer. And these are people who have, who are in this country and should be feeling so blessed and grateful. The real feeling here should be of people who arrive, gratitude. And that should be not just verbalized. It should be in the actions. Now, I know we got a lot of great immigrants. This is one of these moments where I'm not talking about the people who come here legally and are great. And, you know, I get it, my Irish immigrant parents came, you know, great, great grandparents came here a hundred and something years ago. I'm not talking about them. Right. This is the same thing. It's like whenever you talk about what's happening at a macro level, you are speaking to those who are the problem. And in this case the problem are the Democrats who enable all of this and some Republicans. There are Republicans who are terrible on the issue of immigration, although they're kind of ducking for cover right now. And then it is the people who think that we are to be scammed because America is asleep at the wheel, not on Trump's watch. This has changed. And that is why these enforcement operations are so important. And Trump is putting teeth behind them. You're going to send ICE warriors or whatever they call it into Minneapolis, ok? DHS is going to send a thousand more, a thousand more law enforcement officers to enforce the law. We saw what Democrats were willing to do with the FBI. They turn the FBI into a J6 hunting expedition. OK, we all saw it, we all knew what was going on. So the only thing it seemed the FBI was doing for four years, oh, we had a granny and a fanny pack. Take a selfie in the capitol, kicking her door, five years in prison. Insane. Insane. On the other side of this, we have ICE officers who are going into a place like Minneapolis and sharing the actual identities of some of these people. You know, child rapists, murderers, gang members. And then you get Democrats, like this absolute wuss wimp in Oregon, the chief of police crying. He's like, I'm so sad that we thought, you know, people said that they might be gang members that were trying to run over our officers and they were gang members. I guess they were right. So sad. Why cry about that, dude? That guy shouldn't be allowed to be a chief of police. He shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun. Guy needs help. This is critical. This is the future of the country. And the Trump team is on it. The Trump team is on it. We'll get into more of these details here coming up shortly. So stick around. Look, a clean diet and exercise improve your energy and your health. As I sit here talking to you from I want. It's been about two years now, but I've kept the weight off. I'm down 40 pounds and now I usually wasn't 40 pounds heavier, but I'm down about 40 pounds from my absolute peak where I was just, I just got in a rut, you know, and I wasn't moving around very much. 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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck on the ICE enforcement side of things. A video that has gone mega, mega viral of an ICE agent. Protesters are trying to harass him. And no surprise, when these. These libs, the moment that they want to get under someone's skin, they all of a sudden they become very classist. All of a sudden, they become very demeaning to people who work for the government. But here, this ICE agent handles it really well. And this has gone. This is getting tens of millions of views online. This is cut seven. Listen to how this ICE agent handles his protester hecklers. I don't care what they told you.
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If you guys get in my way, I will arrest you.
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Sir, we're just observing. Please come. You're going to observe all you want.
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I am observing. Do you see me in the way I am?
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Beth, you had anger issues as a kid, didn't you? Were your parents present? You should be ashamed of yourself, man.
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He is.
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Love my job.
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Thank you.
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You love your job?
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I can't believe I get paid for this.
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Really? I do this for free.
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Really? I get 200k. I'm a physician assistant. How long did you go to school for that?
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Over seven years.
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I went to high school. I made 200K.
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I don't know if you hear all that. They're trying to antagonize him and he's like, I love my job. This is the ICE agent. The ICE agent says, I love my job. He's like, I can't believe I get paid for this. And then some woman's like, well, I'm a physician assistant. I make 200K. He's like, you went to school for seven years? I went to high school. I make about 200K. It's perfect. Perfect. By the way, high five. We don't know. This guy is obviously, he's got his. His, you know, gator up. But it was great, great stuff from this ICE Agent, man. That's how you that's how you handle the commies. Look, we talked a lot about credit card debt yesterday. So if you're looking to cut costs, how about saving money on your cell phone bill? Switch to Pure Talk this month and you may well save $600 to $1,000 by the end of this year alone. PureTalk saves you 50% or more off your existing cell phone bill without sacrificing any quality. That's because PureTalk operates on the same cell towers and network as one of the bigger cell phone companies, but without all the overhead expenses. The cost, it can be as low as $20 a month for unlimited talk, text and three gigs of high speed data on PureTalk's super fast nationwide 5G network. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck. And PureTalk's US customer service team will help you switch in minutes again, talk, text and Data for just $20 a month. Once more, dial £250, say Clay and Buck. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. PureTalk, America's wireless company.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis. Buck Sexton show. I have made it. President Trump sends his regards. I was over in the White House with a guy that Jim Jordan, who is with us now. I'm in the DC studio. Buck Sexton down in Miami. Congressman, you were just. We'll get into some serious stuff in a moment, but off the air, you just came on and you were singing Buck Sexton's praises based on him having hit the 100 mile an hour serve.
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John McEnroe Jr. That's what, that's what everyone is saying. It's tough. It's taken over the sports world. It's Buck Sexton and Indiana football. Top of the story.
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I did have Twitter assistance from John Isner, the fastest server of all time. So that was, that was.
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Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I didn't know that.
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Oh, yeah. See, this is the thing. I had a ringer.
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That's, that's. Well, that's still impressive too. So. I mean, that's, that's amazing. No, I was. Because I think I was maybe with Clay. I think it was your wife who.
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Said my wife was. Laura Travis was not a believer in box powers.
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I was with your, with your wife on that one. But then I saw it. I saw the first video that you sent me and I'm like, that's pretty good. Maybe he can. And then sure enough, about what, four or five, six weeks later. 103. What was it? 104.
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Yeah, it's okay. Next stop, Congressman is 110. So don't worry about it. I'll post the 110 video by the end of this year. So we're getting there. Are you going to fix the government, sir? Because we've got some problems.
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Well, I mean, it's been a good year. I mean, Clay was saying this the other day. I saw him on tv. You know, I always say we make the job too complicated. It's pretty basic. What'd you tell the voters you were gonna do if you get elected? Do what you said. No one does it better than Trump. President Trump said he cut taxes. He did. He said he'd secure the border. He did. He said he'd stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. He said. An issue you've been focused on, you guys, particularly Clay. He said he'd get men out of women's sports. It looks like the Supreme Court, based on what we saw in the arguments. That looks good. So he's delivered on what he said he would do. Said he'd get European countries to kick in more for NATO. They're all like, yes, sir, 5%, here we come. It's been an amazing year. And I think once the big, beautiful bill kicks in, the taxes that people are going to see, frankly, when they start filing their tax returns, as this year progresses, I think we're in a pretty good position to keep the majority in the House, which, as you know, historically is not easy to do, but it's been a good year.
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So when you look at the midterm, we can start to talk about the midterms coming up. And obviously the House, whether we have the majority or the minority makes a huge difference in your life, but also in what could happen. When you look at Minneapolis and the fraud that's going on there and now layered on top of it, the ice or the response to the shooting there, how does that play nationwide, do you think? Obviously, for Mayor Fry and for Tim Walls in Minnesota, they think it's beneficial. What does the nation think of that, in your mind?
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No, I said this to the conference last week, all our Republican members, when we got together with the president, that I think this campaign is simple. I think we tell them what we did, things I was just talking about, and then we always remind the voters how crazy the left is.
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Yeah.
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And that is Minnesota, that is Minneapolis. And so I think it's really important you do what you say and you remind them, here's what they did, here's what they believe, and if they're back in power, they will do it again. They will impeach him again. They will open up the border again. They will try to get back in women's sports. They will raise your taxes, they will spend, spend, spend, causing record inflation. They will do all that again. And you can just look at all the dumb things. They defund the police, sanctuary jurisdictions which lead to this environment where we saw the tragedy happen last week, where the ICE agents defended himself and this tragedy happened. So that is the environment of the left. And I think it's important to remind the voters that's what's coming. They're so crazy, they were willing to let a Chinese spy balloon fly clear across the country and then shoot it down. Yeah, I think any other normal person, and I know President Trump would have shot it down before it went across the country. So remind them of that and then show them what we've done to make life better for him.
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I know you have some testimony that is supposed to be happening coming up. What is it? January 22nd, Congressman, which is just about what is eight days away. You will be chairing testimony where Jack Smith, the special counsel extraordinaire, is supposed to explain himself with the whole Trump situation. What, what are you expecting with this and what are we trying to get to here?
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Well, I think, first of all, it's important to frame it. Jack Smith is just sort of the, the culmination of 10 years of the left going after President Trump. I mean, it was comey and with all the things he did, spying on the campaign, then it was Mueller impeachment one, impeachment two, Fani Willis, Alvin Bragg, and now Jack Smith. And so I think we will lay that out. But specifically, we're going to ask Jack Smith. You were so determined to get the President. Think about this, think about this. Kevin McCarthy becomes Speaker of the House on January 7, 2023. Sixteen days later, Jack Smith goes and gets his phone records subpoenaed for his phone records for two years prior for a two month time frame. So he goes and gets the phone records of the top Republican in government, the guy second in line to the President. He knows who Kevin called, who called him when it happened, how long it lasted. And if Kevin initiated the call, he knows where he's at when he does. So you can pattern someone's life, you know who the speaker of the House was talking to before a big vote, who he's talking to. That is frightening. And then to add insult to injury, he goes to the judge and says, don't let Verizon, don't let AT&T tell these Members of Congress tell the speaker of the House that we got his phone record, so he doesn't even know. And he puts on the subpoena because he might be a flight risk. Like, you got to be kidding me. The speaker of the House is going to run from the country. He might tamper with witnesses. That is how determined he was to go after President Trump. It is ridiculous. And now we learned last week that he paid a confidential human source $20,000. My big question to Jack Smith is why? You can subpoena anybody and everybody you want. Your special counsel got the full power of the Justice Department, and you're paying people to go say bad things about the president. You gotta be kidding me. So those are the kind of things we're gonna ask him now in an open environment after we had him for seven hours in a deposition.
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You went through impeachment one and impeachment two. One of the stakes of the midterms that are coming up is, it seems quite clear to us, Buck and I both believe it's gonna happen. I'm curious if you do. If Democrats take back control of the House, they'll impeach Trump again. They'll find something to impeach him for. Is that, in your mind, one of the most major stakes in terms of having control of the House?
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Yeah, they will. And that will stymie all the good stuff that we got done last year that we talked about. So. Yeah. And you know it's going to happen because they've already filed impeachment resolutions, several of them. And maybe more importantly, what they did at the start of this Congress is on the Judiciary Committee. They got rid of Jerry Nadler. They said, you're no longer going to be the top Democrat on the committee. We're going to bring in Jamie Raskin because they think they're going to win, and they want to run impeachment, the more traditional way out of the Judiciary Committee versus how they did it five years ago when they ran it out of the Intelligence Committee with Adam Schiff. So they bring in Raskin because they think they're going to win. And they will, in my opinion. They will. I'm like, I'm with you guys. They will definitely do it because that will. And they will investigate president's family. They'll investigate everyone, just like they did, you know what, eight years ago, seven years ago.
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Do we think that we're ever going to get a broader view of the kind of fraud, Congressman, that has been unearthed in Minnesota? This isn't the only place where this Stuff was going on. You're hearing early, early reports about similar situations in California, and particularly around the issue of fake or greatly exaggerated child care, which is something that I would assume a lot of the fraudsters thought to themselves, no one's going to really want to go after or look into this. We're. We're providing care for children. Well, if you're saying you're taking care of 300 kids or whatever and you're getting millions of dollars and there's no kids, I do think that we should look into that. I think that that's a problem.
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Yeah. The vice president announced last week that they've created a special position at the Justice Department to focus on this. I think this is sort of a furtherance of the whole Doge effort, which. Which Elon, the work he did there. I think getting this starting to get this out there was really important. So I like what they're doing there. And you're right, Buck. It seemed like all these programs, feeding kids, giving kids learning centers, autistic kids, it was all supposed to be helping the children, when in fact, they were just sticking the money in their pocket. This Feeding Our Future program, they didn't feed anyone. They were actually shut down for a period of time, and then it was started back up. And if you remember, in the hearing last week, we asked them, why was it started back up? Well, it's because this group said, we're going to file a racial discrimination suit against you if you don't start giving us the money that we're just sticking in our pockets.
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And.
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And they did it. So this was the old, you know, the typical template that the left uses. The left will. I say the left will tell a lie. We're feeding children when in fact, they're not. Big media will cover for the lie, and then when you tell the truth, they call you racist. And that's what they did in Minnesota. But it was even worse. They didn't just look away and restart the money. It looks like they assisted because there was a meeting that was actually on videotape between the attorney General and leaders of the Feeding Our Future program. And two weeks after that meeting, suddenly the attorney general starts getting campaign contributions from these folks. So it was, I think, a political. Looking the other way, assisting political. We don't want the lawsuit against alleging racial discrimination, and we want to keep their political support, which is the worst kind of scam and fraud you can have. And it was going on as we heard from the members of the General assembly from Minnesota last week in the hearing, it's been going on for 10, 12, maybe even as up to 15 years with various programs.
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We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan from ohi, Venezuela and Iran. It is unbelievable, the success of the raid that happened in Venezuela. It certainly is raising, I think, a lot of nervousness inside of Iran because they have to be very concerned about the capabilities of the United States. What do you think will happen? What should happen? If the President asks you, hey, how should I handle Iran, what would you tell him?
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Well, I think Iran's taken everything the President saying seriously in light of what happened with what Israel did to lay some of the ground than what we did. Amazing operation there. What was that called? Midnight Thunder. And then the operation that took place in Venezuela. I'm always surprised at the left. The left criticizes Venezuela and I'm like, wait a minute, we took out the head of a narco terrorist criminal operation, who's got a five year arrest warrant, who's playing footsie with China and Iran.
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Right now with a $25 million bounty that Biden increased just in January last.
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Year right here in our hemisphere. And somehow the left says, oh, this is a bad thing. I have confidence in the President, I have confidence certainly in Secretary of State Rubio as well, that they'll handle this in the right way. I think this idea of making sure Venezuelans get the benefit of the resources they have there, help their population, helps the whole market. This is not about getting oil necessarily for America. It's making sure Iran and China don't get it and the people of Venezuela benefit from it. They get a better lifestyle there and also maybe stopping this huge migration we've had of people coming to the country. So there's all those elements and I trust this administration to handle it in the way that they should.
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I have one more question on the subpoena side of things. Not to divert too quickly from Iran and Venezuela, but I wanted to get this one in. While we have you, Congressman Fani Willis also has been subpoenaed, as I understand things. Can you tell us where that is and where that oversight investigation is going?
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I'll tell you this about her. I guess someone to work for, lover boy. Yeah. Mr. Wade. Yeah, we actually have already brought him in.
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Yeah.
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And we deposed him. And when we deposed him, it was fascinating because we asked him, you build the taxpayers of Georgia for several hours of meetings and conversations here in D.C. and he goes, yeah. Billy said, you know, he did it. He came up here and did that. We said, well, who'd you Talk to. Couldn't remember. We said, did you meet him at the. People at the White House, people in the January 6 committee? Were you here at the Capitol? Were you at the White House? Were you at the Justice Department? Where'd you meet? Couldn't remember. Oh, we said, we said, did you meet him in person or did you do it via Zoom or, you know, some. Couldn't remember. Finally, we asked him, did you really come, or were you just like, was it like Minnesota? Were you just shaking down the taxpayer? He goes, oh, yeah, I was here. I billed for it. I was definitely here. I just can't remember anything about what took place. So that's sort of the state of play with these, with these folks in Georgia. That whole suit, as you all know, that whole action, I should say, has been, has fallen apart was completely bogus. And I think everyone saw that. But, yeah, we're waiting to see what may transpire with, with, with Fani Willis.
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Is there, is there, is there federal legal jeopardy that you think Fanny Willis could find herself in based on the facts as you know them?
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Well, I don't know about that. We're, we're, we're trying to get her testimony and trying to get information from her, and she, it seems like every time she is in some kind of public appearance in Georgia, she wants to attack our committee and the work we're doing when we're just, we're just trying to get the truth out there. This was all part of, as we said a few minutes ago, this was all part of this concerted effort to go after the president and it didn't work. The country, this is what I love about Americans. Americans, in the end, get to the truth. Americans have common sense. One of the reasons we're the greatest country ever. They saw through all the BS and they said, no, no, President Trump's getting a raw deal here. We want this guy back as commander in chief, back in the, in the Oval Office. And as I said before, it's been an amazing first year of his second term.
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Jim Jordan, glad you get to hang out with my man clay there in D.C. i feel a little left out right now, I'll be honest with you. I feel like you guys are going to go, you know, throw a baseball around on the Mall or something, and.
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I'm just up here to meetings and votes. We just had a committee hearing finish up.
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It's tough.
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You know, I'm coming to Florida and I want to, I'm going to maybe want to see it in Miami.
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Yeah, you got to Come check it out, because I want to hear my. In my 75 degree weather.
C
I want to see the studio, but more importantly, I want to see the serve. I want to see it in action.
A
We'll video you live. We'll video you live with the gun. If you come down here with the.
B
Serve, hold the gun, you can be. You can be the officiator.
C
I'm trying to return it. I am.
A
No, no, no. I'm saying you could be the officiant on the serve. Gun for me. We'll bring you down here. Alrighty. All right. Thanks, everybody.
C
Fantastic.
B
I'm picking Indiana. I think that Indiana is going to win, but I do think I'm kind of finessing things. I took Miami plus the eight and a half. I think it's a field goal game. I think it'll be a defensive struggle. I like what the Hurricanes. Your Bucks go into the game with you guys.
A
My beloved Hurricanes. My beloved. Let me just go on the record here. I've real. I've crunched the numbers. I've watched the tape. Hurricanes are coming through with the W on this one, okay? Hurricanes all the way. My Miami Hurricanes are going to blow through town. It's going to be fantastic.
C
The defensive line, three and four, I think, are their numbers. I can't remember their names. That was the game, in my judgment.
B
I just saw J.D. vance at the White House and I said, what happened with your Buckeyes? And he said, thanks. I've got a lot of things going on in my life right now. I appreciate you reinforcing what happened in that game against Miami.
C
All right, thanks, guys. Take care.
A
All right, Clay, I got to pay some bills. Didn't take me long to fully appreciate why new parents love to take pictures of their little ones. It's amazing here with little Jimmy Speed, and it's fantastic day in and day out. But my mom and dad, they raised four kids in their house. And my dad used to have to go to all of our sporting events. He loved it. But sporting events and family get togethers, and he was a VHS guy. He used to have the camcorder out. He'd be like, bucko, what do you think about, you know, the school play today? And I'd be like, I thought it was great, but now I can't watch that anymore. We got these old tapes and we can't watch them. But guess what? Now you can, thanks to Legacy Box. Any old media you have. Any old media you can enjoy now, thanks to Legacy Box's digital transfer process, it's so easy. It's a fun thing to do because you're gonna relive those memories, just pulling it all together and then you're gonna really enjoy them. Once Legacy Box transfers it over digitally to you in the new media format just takes a few weeks. They update you every step of the way. They do this with so much care they give you back the original media. Just go to legacybox.com buck say 55% off when you preserve your past with Legacy Box, start the new year by preserving your family's most cherished memories that haven't been watched or enjoyed in years. Legacybox.com Buck Legacybox.com Buck to save 55%.
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At noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck Podcast feed.
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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show Our thanks to Congressman Jim Jordan for coming in studio and hanging out with us as as he always likes to do. It's always good to meet guys who are listening to the show when they're out about on their on their runs through their districts when they got the time to be doing it. And certainly he is a part of that. I'll come back in a little bit, Buck, and I'll tell you, I was over apologies for being late. I was over in the Oval Office, which is not a bad place to be, and got to talk with President Trump, got to see most of the folks in the in the West Wing. A lot going on there. We'll fill you in. We'll talk, I'm sure, about the continued fallout of what's going on in Iran, what in the world's going on in Minneapolis. All that and more headed this way. But thank you for holding down the fort there to start off the program today. I'm excited to be in our DC studio.
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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Date: January 14, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Guest: Congressman Jim Jordan
Location: Clay in Washington, D.C.; Buck in Miami
In this engaging first hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive deep into the week’s hottest issues—primarily the U.S. immigration situation and viral controversies around border enforcement. Clay connects live from D.C., fresh from White House meetings, and is joined in-studio by Congressman Jim Jordan. Together, they analyze Trump’s latest immigration actions, Democrat political strategy, ongoing welfare scandals, Jack Smith’s pursuit of Trump, and speculate on looming legislative and geopolitical battles. The show moves at a brisk, punchy pace, filled with pointed opinions, humor, and hard-hitting questions.
Major Immigration Moves:
Commentary:
Notable Quote:
“If we prove that it can work, then it is clear going forward to the American people that this is a choice, right? That this is, is a decision that is made.” — Buck Sexton (12:45)
Timestamps:
Viral Segment:
Buck recaps a viral video of an ICE agent calmly handling heckling protesters who try to demean his job.
Exchange Highlights:
Notable Quote:
“They’re trying to antagonize him and he’s like, I love my job. He’s like, I can’t believe I get paid for this.”
— Buck Sexton (17:10)
Timestamps:
Jordan confidently touts Trump’s “do what you say” governance, recapping border security, tax cuts, and policy wins.
Asserts Trump is delivering on each campaign pledge, sees a good chance to hold the House majority.
Notable Quote:
“No one does it better than Trump. President Trump said he’d cut taxes—he did. He said he’d secure the border—he did...”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (20:17)
Timestamps:
Minneapolis is held up as a warning: sanctuary policies, defund-the-police ethos, and recent ICE shooting controversy.
Jordan urges Republicans to contrast these “crazy” leftist policies with GOP accomplishments.
Memorable Slam:
“They were willing to let a Chinese spy balloon fly clear across the country and then shoot it down. Any other normal person—and I know President Trump—would have shot it down before it went across the country.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (22:35)
Timestamps:
Jordan previews his coming hearing grilling Special Counsel Jack Smith on the GOP’s claims of partisan abuses:
Notable Quote:
“You can subpoena anybody and everybody you want... and you’re paying people to go say bad things about the president. You gotta be kidding me.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (25:00)
Timestamps:
Hosts and Jordan agree: if Democrats win back the House, they will “definitely” impeach Trump again.
Democrats are shifting Judiciary leadership to more aggressively pursue impeachment.
Timestamps:
Buck presses on the Minnesota “Feeding Our Future” fraud case, highlighting a pattern of exploiting children’s programs.
Jordan outlines the Democrats’ alleged “template”: tell a lie, media cover-up, then call truth-tellers ‘racist’.
Jordan alleges, “It was a political...assisting political. We don’t want lawsuits against alleging racial discrimination, and we want to keep their political support, which is the worst kind of scam.”
Timestamps:
Jordan expresses confidence in Trump and Secretary Rubio managing foreign policy, especially after recent U.S. and Israeli operations.
Focus on keeping Venezuela’s resources from aiding Iran and China and supporting regional stability.
Timestamps:
Buck pivots to oversight of Fulton County DA Fani Willis:
Timestamps:
Buck on Immigration:
“America will slowly but surely slide into an economic zone and a massive welfare state and a place where everyone, it seems, except native born Americans are allowed to engage in a whole lot of tribalism, ethnic, national tribalism.” (07:20)
ICE Agent Retort Viral Moment:
“You went to school for seven years? I went to high school. I make about 200K.” (17:24)
Jordan on Political Abuse:
“He puts on the subpoena because [McCarthy] might be a flight risk. Like, you gotta be kidding me. The speaker of the House is going to run from the country!” (24:00)
Jordan on Democrat Strategy:
“The left will tell a lie... big media will cover for the lie, and then when you tell the truth, they call you racist. And that’s what they did in Minnesota.” (28:00)
Sports Banter:
Fun, breezy exchanges about Buck’s “100+ mph serve,” with Jordan joking about serving as “officiant” for Buck’s next upload.
Behind-the-Scenes at DC:
Clay mentions coming fresh from the White House and meetings with Trump, promising more D.C. stories in the next hour.
This hour offers an unvarnished right-of-center perspective on the week’s major political controversies, blending DC insider analysis from Rep. Jim Jordan and the hosts with cultural skirmishes, focused policy critique, and some sharp-tongued humor. Immigration and government accountability dominate, while the episode foreshadows an intense election season and ongoing battles with the Biden administration and the political left.
If you missed it, you’ll walk away understanding the Republican playbook for November, the new stakes in the immigration fight, and the escalating tension between Congressional GOP leadership and DOJ investigators.