Hour 1 - Clay: Sorry, NY

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 1 - "Clay: Sorry, NY"

Release Date: July 17, 2025

In this engaging and insightful episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into pressing political developments, focusing particularly on the potential defunding of public media and the controversial mayoral race in New York City. The discussion is rich with strategic analysis, listener interactions, and expert opinions, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the current political landscape.

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1. Defunding PBS and NPR: A Long-Awaited Victory

The show kicks off with the promising news that the Senate has voted to cut taxpayer funding for PBS and NPR. Clay Travis highlights the historical context, noting, “They've been trying to do this since I was in college and Clay was working on his PhD” (00:53). Buck Sexton adds, “July 1, 2004. The White House is one step closer to defunding public radio” (00:53), emphasizing that this move is the culmination of decades-long efforts by Republicans to eliminate funding for public media.

2. The Contender for NYC Mayor: Zoran Momdani's Communism

A significant portion of the episode centers on the contentious mayoral race in New York City. Clay introduces Zoran Momdani, labeling him as a “committed communist” who advocates for radical changes such as abolishing private property. He shares clips of Momdani’s statements, highlighting the alarming shift towards extreme left-wing policies (02:45).

Buck Sexton counters Clay’s strategic sacrifice of New York City by asserting, “I will not allow this” (07:07), expressing his commitment to protecting the city from what he perceives as communist overreach.

3. Strategic Sacrifice: Prioritizing the House of Representatives

Clay proposes a controversial strategy: allowing Momdani to win the mayoral race in New York City to conserve Republican resources for more impactful races, such as those for the House of Representatives. He argues, “When I look at this strategically...we may have to sacrifice New York City in terms of having a competent mayor” (03:42). This tactic, he suggests, could potentially weaken the Democratic Party by showcasing the consequences of their far-left choices on a national stage.

4. Democratic Leadership Vacuum and Party Dynamics

The hosts discuss the Democratic Party’s lack of a clear standard-bearer compared to the Republican Party’s alignment behind Donald Trump. Clay points out, “You can't really say, oh, you know, the new head of the Republic. Trump has taken up all of the oxygen” (08:17), questioning who will lead the Democrats. They contemplate whether prominent figures like Gavin Newsom and Elise Stefanik could fill this leadership void, with Buck noting, “I think Gavin Newsom is the national Democrat of the moment” (09:38).

5. Listener Reactions: Support and Opposition

The episode features vibrant interactions with listeners, offering a spectrum of opinions on the proposed strategies. Clay reads emails from supporters who agree with the idea of letting New York City face the consequences of electing a communist mayor, viewing it as beneficial for the broader political battle (20:05). Conversely, there are strong objections from listeners who are staunchly against abandoning New York City, emphasizing the city's importance and resilience (23:14).

6. Comparative Analysis: Liberal Strongholds and Future Implications

Clay and Buck analyze other liberal strongholds like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle, examining whether their progressive policies have been detrimental to the Democratic Party’s national appeal. Buck observes, “San Fran for sure. Mamdani policies for many years. And I don't think it's been a huge...drag on the Democrat Party that we would hope for” (09:02). This comparison underscores the potential risks of extreme policies on electoral viability.

7. The Role of Elizabeth Warren and Party Distancing

Elizabeth Warren’s attempts to distance herself from Momdani’s radical positions are scrutinized. Clay remarks, “Elizabeth Warren... trying to distance herself from some of the arguments Mamdani has made because they're too far left wing and crazy” (24:17). Buck further criticizes her financial standing, juxtaposing her wealth with her progressive rhetoric: “She’s worth $12 million personally... Rich. Elizabeth Warren's rich” (32:41).

8. Upcoming Topics and Expert Guests

Towards the end of the episode, Clay and Buck preview upcoming segments featuring Senator Marsha Blackburn discussing the RES package, defunding NPR, and border security. They also plan to host Alan Dershowitz, who will elaborate on his Wall Street Journal editorial regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s case and address rumors of a special counsel investigation.

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Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis (00:53): “They've been trying to do this since I was in college and Clay was working on his PhD.”

• Buck Sexton (07:07): “I will not allow this.”

• Clay Travis (03:42): “...we may have to sacrifice New York City in terms of having a competent mayor.”

• Buck Sexton (09:38): “I think Gavin Newsom is the national Democrat of the moment.”

• Clay Travis (24:17): “...trying to distance herself from some of the arguments Mamdani has made because they're too far left wing and crazy.”

• Buck Sexton (32:41): “She’s worth $12 million personally. ...Rich. Elizabeth Warren's rich.”

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Conclusion

This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a deep dive into the tactical considerations facing the Republican Party amidst rising left-wing movements within the Democratic Party. By analyzing the potential defunding of public media, the radical shift in New York City's leadership, and the broader implications for national elections, Clay and Buck provide listeners with thought-provoking perspectives on navigating the current political climate. The episode emphasizes strategic sacrifices, party dynamics, and the importance of leadership, all while engaging with listener opinions and expert insights.

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Note: Timestamps correspond to the transcript provided.

Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Thursday Edition. Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've got an awesome show headed your way. Some good news right off the top. The Senate late, I guess it was early this morning or late last night, depending on how you want to actually classify it. But they have voted to take the taxpayer money from PBS and npr. This is something that's been talked about for generations. They actually have done it. The House has to officially approve it. But I do think sometimes we can get lost in the generational change that is occurring in front of us. Sometimes you get lost in obsessing about smaller things and missing the bigger picture. So try to be cognizant of that on this program. So let me give some good news right off the top.

[Buck Sexton]

They've been trying to do this. I just, just a Fun Google search. July 1, 2004. The White House is one step closer to defunding public radio. So upset. That's 2004 everybody. We've been trying to do this since I was in college and Clay was working on his PhD.

[Clay Travis]

I think this has actually been going on in the 70s and 80s. I think Republicans have been saying why are we funding this? Since the 70s. I think it's legitimately older than many of the people who are listening to this program right now. We are very close to that occurring. Let me give you a little bit of a roadmap. Marsha Blackburn, Senator from Tennessee. Our friend's going to join us next hour. Also, Alan Dershowitz, I read some of the excerpts of his Wall Street Journal editorial. He represented Jeffrey Epstein in his criminal defense case that started 20 years ago and he laid out a lot of what he knows to actually be in the so called Epstein files. We will give you all of that. But Buck, this morning I was getting ready and I saw our good buddy Zoran Momdami. There continues to be more and more what I would say are straight communist swill videos with him endorsing them. I, I, I don't even think there's any way to tiptoe up to this. It's no longer remotely socialism. He is a committed communist. And, and you say, okay, what does that sound like? Well, it sounds like saying, hey, I think we might need to abolish public private property. And I'm going to play that for a minute. Let me also tell you fun coming. Shane Gillis, the comedian went on the ESPYs last night. We've got some funny jokes that we will play for you later in the program. And I promise you that they're going to make you laugh at. And I guarantee you that the DEI is email and text chains inside of ESPN are feverish right now over the jokes that he told. And we'll play some of those for your enjoyment. But this is mom Donnie, the Democrat mayor for New York City, saying, hey, maybe we just need to consider abolishing private property. This is cut for.

[Buck Sexton]

My platform is that every single person should have housing. And I think faced with these two options, the system. The system has hundreds of thousands of people unhoused, right For. For what? And if there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now. And I think that people try and play like, gotcha games about these kinds of things. And it's like, look, I care more about whether somebody has a home.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, let me ask you this, Buck, because this is where I went when I started to see these videos. And then Curtis Lee was on Fox News. He's on Fox News all the time. He's going to be the Republican nominee. Andrew Cuomo and Eric Adams are both going to be independent. And it looks like the split vote is going to put mom Donnie in as mayor. Am I being a total jerk? The answer may very well be yes. When I look at this strategically and say I think Republicans are fighting too hard to beat this guy, I think we should let Democrats elect a communist mayor of New York City and let Mamdani and all of the crazy things that he has said be the face of the Democrat Party next year for the midterms, we may have to sacrifice New York City in terms of having a competent mayor. And in order to win a bigger prize, which is the House of Representatives. Tell me why this is not strategically. The why should we fight as hard as we can to protect Democrats from the lunacy of their choices?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, Mr. Nashville over here is very quick to feed New York City into the woodchuck. Let me say.

[Clay Travis]

Let me say 300 million of us. That'll be. That'll be fine.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm sorry, state for our massive tri state audience. I'm not willing to just let. Let you be voted off the island of sanity so quickly. Okay, I understand what Clay is saying. It is that the left should get what they want and get it, you know, long and hard. They should have to really deal with the reality of their choices and what the Democrat Party has Become. I still have, as you know, family in Manhattan. Half my family lives in Manhattan. I'm going to see them next week. I'll be in Manhattan next week, so I'll be able to come back and report from the front lines. For those who are concerned about the trajectory of the city, there are some decently positive things that are happening in New York right now. NYPD is on a pretty good footing. Footing. Commissioner Tisch, whom I worked with briefly in the NYPD myself, she's doing a good job. She's a good manager, understands the ins and outs of running a 40 something, thousand person department, which is how big the NYPD is. Size of a lot of countries, standing armies. So it's a. It's a big job. She's doing a good job with it. Will. So. So here's the question, Clay. Will it be a situation where the Democrats, if Mamdani wins, the Democrats will rally behind him as a new standard bearer, or will they be able to silo this off a bit and say, that's New York. You know, he's. He's the guy for them. Because not everybody in the Democrat Party is happy about this guy becoming, you know, let's be honest, this is male AOC as mayor of New York. That's what this guy is, effectively, politically. It would be like AOC is a dude and is now running, which, you know, is running New York City. That would be the Mayor Mamdani administration. I'm not sure all the Democrats want that. So there might be some political upside to it for us.

[Clay Travis]

I think that, that, oh, I think this would win the House. And I do feel sorry for all of you that I am sacrificing in the wolf. Sorry, listeners.

[Buck Sexton]

As he pushes your head, he's in his rowboat. He's in the lifeboat, and he's pushing New York's head underwater. I will not allow this.

[Clay Travis]

New York, I got to tell you New Yorkers, it's a little bit like the Hunger Games, where sometimes as a tribute, you have to sacrifice yourself for the betterment of the. Of the betterment of the. Of the contest. I think that.

[Buck Sexton]

Mom.

[Clay Travis]

Donnie, here's why I think that this could be so effective as well. Buck. This is where you take advantage of there being no real head of the Democrat Party, because if we have a crazy governor on the Republican side or if we have a crazy senator or a crazy congressman, and guess what? We got all three right. Every party does. Trump is the head of the party. So you can't really say, oh, you know, the new head of the Republic. Trump has taken up all of the oxygen. He is the face of the Republican Party. You can't make someone else the face of the Republican Party. Who's the face of the Democrat Party right now? It's certainly not Hakeem Jeffries. It's not Chuck Schumer. It's not even Gavin Newsom's trying to fill that void. I don't think it's him. It's not JB Pritzker, it's not Gretchen Whitmer, it's not Josh Shapiro, certainly not Mayor Pete. It's not Joe Biden, it's not even Kamala Harris. I think Republicans can make Mamdani the face of the Republican Party and might Democrat Party might well buck be able to wed. As you just said, Mom, Donnie and aoc, we always talk about California liberals. What about New York Communists? Instead of running against California liberals, New York Communist is a lot more of a negative associational value for most people nationwide. And so I'm sitting around, there's this obsession right now with Republicans trying to save Democrats from the consequences of their choice in the primary. Why, why should we not just sit back and let them take themselves over the woke waterfall?

[Buck Sexton]

It's, it's a problem I think that you could look at through the prism of Los Angeles and San Francisco and really all the Pacific Northwest cities. Portland, Seattle, where they have really gone after less so in LA maybe, but in the other places for sure. San Fran for sure. Mamdani policies for many years. And I don't think it's been a huge, the huge drag on the Democrat Party that we would hope for. I mean even look at, look at who is, you ask who the standard bearer is of the Democrat Party right now. I think it's Gavin Newsom at this moment.

[Clay Travis]

I think he wants to be, I.

[Buck Sexton]

Think he is right now. I think he could get pushed off that, that, that pedestal pretty quickly. But I think Gavin Newsom is the national Democrat of the moment. The fact that he's willing to go on a big right leaning podcast, the fact that he's been willing to debate. He debated Hannity, right? Was it or.

[Clay Travis]

Well, he debated DeSantis on DeSantis on Hannity.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah. So I was trying to remember it. He debated DeSantis on Hannity. You know, he, he, he loves the media, he loves the attention obviously. So I think that he's the guy. And so the mismanagement, here's my point. The, the mismanagement of California has not delivered the wins that we would want to see necessarily at the national level. I'm not sure what happened in New York either, to be honest with you. I mean, de Blasio was horrible, and they went with only a slightly less horrible Eric Adams. Yeah. Is there a part of me that feels like the Democrat electorate of New York hasn't suffered enough? Sure. But New York is a place with, if you win New York City, you're.

[Clay Travis]

You're.

[Buck Sexton]

Or if you win it by enough, you're basically winning it at the state level, too. So I would rather Democrats have to play a little more defense in their home state than just completely radicalize the whole thing and turn it into fully east coast California. Because, remember, we got Long Island. There are some places of sanity or Long island listeners are pumping their fists in the air. They know what's up.

[Clay Travis]

No, look, Staten island certainly is not voting for this insanity. And New York was closer in the 2024 presidential election than Florida or Texas were. That's. That's like a. New York was closer to being a red state than Texas or Florida were to being blue states. I think this would actually open the door for Elise Stefanik next year in the governor's race. I think if you asked Elise Stefanik and you said, hey, I get it, like Eric Adams or Cuomo would be a better choice for the city. What motivates Republican turnout more? A Communist New York City mayor upstate? Do people show up and say, oh, my goodness, we can't have Kathy Hochul back again? I think it might, and I certainly think it would be impactful in the House of Representatives to be able to run against him nationwide. So part of me. I'm sorry, New York. A part of me is thinking, hey, maybe we keep the life vest inside of the. Inside of the boat.

[Buck Sexton]

I think.

[Clay Travis]

I think there's a little bit of swim, for sure.

[Buck Sexton]

When Clay was an undergrad at GW and all the New York, New Jersey and. And Connecticut GW folks were like, clay, did you grow up playing a banjo? Clay, were you in Civil War reenactments? Like, they must have been fascinated because there were not a lot. There were, as we've discussed, not a lot of Tennesseans going to gw. So I think Clay is having a little fun.

[Clay Travis]

A little.

[Buck Sexton]

A little fun at the expense of. Of our tri state family here.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just going to save the country, but it might mean that some of you have to drown. I'm just saying every now and then it's like, what's the stuff? What's the great debate that they have. Would you shove one person in front of a train? If it meant the ethics debate, Will you.

[Buck Sexton]

Would you kill one person to save a million and you know, the class gets all fired up about it.

[Clay Travis]

Sure. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. New York, you're that person.

[Buck Sexton]

Maybe we could, I think we could pull New York into the rowboat. All right. I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be Rose and let Jack go into the depths with the Titanic freezing. You know, I'm actually gonna pull him up on the, on the door with me.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So we had Mamdani the Commie conversation a second ago. We'll get into some more of that coming up here. Also, the I, I did not know what the ESPYs were. I had to be, I had to be reminded. I said the ESPY Awards, they are getting some attention and we will play you some of the highlights of them because Shane Gillis, the comedian who does do a very funny Trump impression, I wouldn't say it's the most hyper accurate Trump impression, but his impressions of Trump are quite, are quite amusing. Beautiful dogs. You've probably all seen that clip where he talks about the beautiful dogs during the Baghdadi. Not to be confused with Mamdani the Baghdadi Raid. And yeah, I think that the ESPY Awards made a smart move, Clay, by having along Shane Gillis.

[Clay Travis]

What I just some of his jokes I enjoyed because I pictured the ESPN employees who would be the most offended by them being offended by the jokes. And it made me enjoy the jokes even more.

[Buck Sexton]

This is like the, what was it years ago, the British comedian who did the Golden Globes.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's the greatest, I think it's the greatest single. Ricky Gervais. Ricky Gervais. I believe that was 2020, right before COVID shut down everything. February of 2020. I think it's the greatest opening monologue at one of these awards show style events I've ever seen. But I remember the whole thing was lacerating. But my favorite was you guys all pretend you have moral superiority and everything else. And I remember the line, if ISIS had a streaming service, you'd tell, you'd be telling them to call your agent, which was such a great line. And I'm paraphrasing, I may have gotten a little bit wrong. No, that was it fake.

[Buck Sexton]

He was, he was fa. He was fantastic. And you know, at that time, still, I think the Hollywood elites, the big actors were still way elevated in society beyond what I think their, their actual value was. There's been a coming down to earth for Hollywood celebrities. Part of it is because of social media. We know that a lot of them are very dumb and, and very disconnected from the problems of normal human beings. And also I think just because the movie industry, you know, I threw out a tweet about this while ago and it got much more attention than I thought it would. The movie industry in general is in a completely different place unfortunately. I think the movies that are being made these days are pretty, pretty bad as a, as a general rule. But, but the economics of the movie industry have changed so much because you don't have VHS, you don't have DVDs now with streaming. So they're not the, the, they're not the kings and queens of American culture that they used to be going to the Oscars, the ESPYs. Sports as you know better than most is in really still I would. Is it, has it ever been more lucrative to be a professional athlete, Clay, than it is right now? Right. I mean, I mean making more money.

[Clay Travis]

Now I think for all entertainers. If you're a popular musician, if you are a star athlete, you can make a billion dollars, a billion just by singing songs and doing concerts and just by running around, catching a pa, catching a ball, doing whatever an athlete does. And it's never been that way before. Most of the time you don't become fabulously wealthy by being an employee. Most of the time you have to build things. You have to create something didn't exist before. The team's going to be there after every athlete leaves. And yet we're going to have billion dollar athletes.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck SEXTON SHOW all right, we got a bunch of reactions pouring in to my suggestion that we should abandon New York City and let them have to deal with their communist mayor and that that will be actually beneficial for next year's midterms, which are more substantial and also a lot of governor's races. I think that Elise Stefanik would be far more likely to win the governorship of New York State. And I'm saying I believe she's officially announced. Let me know if she is not. I know she's the most prominent candidate that has been much talked about. Buck, a lot of people weighing in. Bob says, sorry Buck, I'm with Clay on this one. New York had a nice run, but enough already. Damon says if Mom Donnie becomes mayor of New York City, Clay should be forced to live in the Bronx for the duration of Mom Donnie's term in office. Hey, maybe I could be neighbors with AOC did it aoc I mean I'll go out to Westchester. Aoc. If AOC could be a Bronx girl and grow up in Westchester. There's a lot of really nice places in West Scarsdale. Very nice.

[Buck Sexton]

From. From Franklin to Westchester is actually pretty easy transition. You wouldn't feel that different. I mean different politics.

[Clay Travis]

But maybe I could live next to the Clintons in Chappaqua. Chappaqua. Chappaqua.

[Buck Sexton]

Chappa.

[Clay Travis]

Because Chappaquiddick is where Kennedy killed the girl. Right? Chopaqua is where the Clintons live right now. Bill says for decades communists have been joining the Democrat party watching Mamdani's warm welcome by mainstream Dems and their failure to condemn his most radical positions. And now apparent party is joining the communists. Here's Don as well. I live in all three New York state, city and county. I very much enjoyed listening to Buck at the New York City Republican Club last November. By the way, I may not get an invite to the New York City Republican Club like Buck did after this take.

[Buck Sexton]

I could probably sneak you in. I know some people, but they're not loving what you're saying right now. Pushing them underwater.

[Clay Travis]

But. Don says but always a but. Here I'm with Clay on this. I've been saying this since the primary. I want Mom Donnie to be the next mayor and watch all those people who hate me. The guilt ridden, self righteously arrogant, over educated, snot nosed elites of the liberal intelligentsia foam at the mouth in total apoplexy. Almost as much fun as watching the View. Also remember, the mayor of New York City can't do all that. He suggests New York State legislature must pass many of these bills. So guys, what do you think? Now we also have a couple of callers that want to weigh in that.

[Buck Sexton]

Might or talk Backs, let's take, let's do the talkbacks. Yeah, let's do some talk.

[Clay Travis]

Bill in New Jersey. E W O r listener, what do you got?

[Buck Sexton]

Play buck. Bill in New Jersey. I am here in the metro New York area. I look out the window and there is the skyline. New York deserves whatever it votes for. Clearly they did not learn the lessons of de Blasio. If they put in this guy Mumdani, they deserve whatever they get. I personally have not gone into the city in years and I refuse to. I will not spend my hard earned money in a communist hole.

[Clay Travis]

Wow. Nat from New York City also one of our great WOR listeners. He's not so happy with me.

[Buck Sexton]

I am so disappointed in the man from Franklin, Tennessee making this stupid argument. Once New York City goes communist, it is done. It is a ridiculous argument. You gain nothing by giving in territory to the enemy you have to attack. I love, I love that caller. I love that caller. He's, that's, that's the spirit of New York right there. That's, he's, that's calling in, I guarantee you, Brooklyn. He's calling in from Brooklyn and he loves it. He loves New York City and he's not going down without a fight, I gotta say.

[Clay Travis]

Is that Bernie Sanders? Is he a secret listener? Was that Bernie playing? Playing both sides of the equation here. That sounds like.

[Buck Sexton]

That's not how Bernie. That's not a Bernie.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, that sounded Bernie to me. Little bit Mark, Little bit Mark Levin. A little bit Mark Levin there. More, more, more.

[Buck Sexton]

Mr. Mr. Esteemed Levin, yes, but definitely not. Bernie's down. Bernie's down here. He's got this sort of low. He's got the Brooklyn, but he's down in this register and he will really lean in on certain words like the oligarchs. You gotta, you know what I mean? You gotta just.

[Clay Travis]

That's really good Bernie. Bernie might be your best. I have to say. Fauci is good. Bernie might be the best. But this is. If you're out there and you're saying, okay, yes, mom, Donnie might be an issue, but how much, how much panic is there? Elizabeth Warren is now saying, yeah, mom, Donnie, he's a little too, he's a little too far for me. This is not the way we should talk. Cut five again, make him the face of the Democrat party for the midterms. Here's Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas herself, trying to distance herself from some of the arguments Mamdani has made because they're too far left wing and crazy.

[Buck Sexton]

Cut 5 this is not the way we should talk. If this encourages violence in any way, then I am opposed to it. I am a no violence person. I think it's a very, very bad idea. But let's be clear. Mondami ran this race because he said, I can make government work better for families on the ground. I'm willing to try new ideas to bring down costs for people who live in New York City. And I understand that big time investors are freaking out about that because they can't quite understand how somebody is going to maybe make it to be mayor without having come and bent a knee to them.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, first of all, I love that she said, I'm opposed. Is there anybody who's ever said, hey, you know what we need? More death and destruction? I love that she starts off by saying, I'm a no violence person. Yes. Oh, congratulations. Yes, we also are very opposed to murder.

[Buck Sexton]

She's very quick. She's very quick to bury the hatchet and stay off the warpath, which we appreciate here. But I will say that I think she has to distance herself from Mamdani the commie because otherwise the two race hoaxers would be lumped together. Remember, he. He pretended to be black to get to school. She pretended to be Native American. And, and, and it worked for her. So she can't be too closely associated with this Mamdani guy because all of a sudden it's going to be Elizabeth Warren posing as Pocahontas. And mom did. Was it his middle name was always Kwame or did he change his name to Kwame for the purposes of admission?

[Clay Travis]

My understanding, having re. I legitimately researched this moron's name.

[Buck Sexton]

Kwame is not a South Indian. South. South Asian, rather name. So I.

[Clay Travis]

No, the dad named him after the leader of Uganda who was named Kwame. So his name is Zoran Kwame Momdani. Which is why I think no one, no one else that I've heard has pointed this out. This is clearly why he put black African American on the Columbia application, because he thought, he thought they would see, oh, how many. Maybe there's one listening right now. Are there any white, Asian or Hispanic men listening right now who are named Kwame? I would submit that that is like, if you see the name Kwame, you're like, that's a black guy's name. He knew what he was trying to do. He was trying to pretend to be black to get into Colombia because he thought it helped him. He. His middle name. A team in New York. You can look this up. My reading on this was that his dad named him after the leader. Middle named him after the leader of Uganda at the time. And so the kwame is in honor of whoever the Ugandan leader was because the guy's only Momdani is only like 33 years old. Right. I mean he's super young. On top of all these other things, he's never.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, so is it Kwame Nkrumah who was the president of Ghana but the prominent figure in the first Pan African movement? So not specific to Uganda, but I believe we can track this one down. It would be Kwame Nkrumah. Kwame Nkrumah, who was a Pan African nationalist, if you will. That, yeah. Because when you think Uganda, the leaders of Uganda have been. It's been a pretty radio idiomin is the most famous, which is not a good thing. It's been a rough. It's been a rough go with the Uganda leader specifically.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. I will readily acknowledge that my knowledge of African leadership.

[Buck Sexton]

Have you seen Last King of Scotland, by the way?

[Clay Travis]

Great movie.

[Buck Sexton]

Great. Okay. I was going to say you and Laura, top of the list.

[Clay Travis]

I keep giving you guys great records.

[Buck Sexton]

You never watch them, but that's okay. I'm glad you've already seen that.

[Clay Travis]

I don't watch anything except what my kids put on, which is why I've only been watching Outer Banks of late, which is a great, fun, ridiculous show to watch with your teenagers if you got 13, 14, 15 year olds. I bet producer Ali has watched Outer Banks. I would bet that she has.

[Buck Sexton]

It is. It's Kwame Nkrumah, the Ghanaian Pan Africanist leader, which reflects his father's. I mean, this guy is really. He's. It's like if you were creating a sort of multiculturalist and, and globalist resume for somebody. This guy, the communist Mamdani has it. I mean, this is what you're. Is definitely similar to what you saw with the. The construction of Obama. I'm sure, I'm sure that that. Sorry, Zoran, I don't think anyone calls him Kwame Zoran. Is looking at the Obama playbook on a lot of this stuff with the way that he's positioning himself politically.

[Clay Travis]

Let me ask you this, as we go to break and you guys out there listening may be able to come up with some examples. How many times has Elizabeth Warren. Not when she was running for president. Right. Because when you're running for president, you have to attack the other people running for president. How many times has she attacked a Democrat publicly when she wasn't running for the office? And Competing with them. This is kind of unheard of for Democrat to turn on another Democrat. This is how nervous I think they are. Because you can say a lot about Elizabeth Warren, but she has a lot of connections to Wall street, big investors. I know she tries to pretend that she cares about the little person, everything else. She's actually very plugged in with elite left wing Wall street donors. And I think that's where this pressure is coming from because the guy's a communist and we need to have some fun with his plan on the grocery stores. His plan to save everybody money on the grocery stores. It reads like your kids plan, except less logical when it comes to selling lemonade out on the corner in the neighborhood.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, this is Elizabeth Warren, the, the, you know, the progressive leftist, all that stuff. She's worth $12 million personally.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. So she's not struggling.

[Buck Sexton]

It turns out it's really easy to be all about collectivism and the government taking from other people when you've already amassed the $12 million fortune, which you could easily live a very comfortable life just off of the annualized interest of that in a high yield interest account or a standard mutual fund. I'm not giving financial advice here, but this is not, not a $12 million in the bank. And I know they'd say, oh, well, that's probably real estate and stuff too. But point is, she's rich. Elizabeth Warren's rich. Going around talking about the. But there's, there's, I made my money by getting overpaid for books that nobody read and doing consulting that nobody needed because I'm a Democrat professor rich. And then there's, you know, starting a company and selling it for a billion dollars. Rich. So even, you know, even somebody is worth $10 million. One can exploit class envy, which Elizabeth Warren has built her entire career on, and to have some of their own class envy. Truly, you know, Bernie Sanders, a socialist with three houses.

[Clay Travis]

It's amazing how that works, isn't it?

[Buck Sexton]

Isn't that I don't have. I have one house and I'm not a socialist. How do I get to be a socialist with three houses? That sounds like fun. All right. Save yourself money. Speaking of money on a service that you have to use every day, your cell phone. When you switch your cell phone service from AT&T, Verizon or T Mobile to PureTalk, you're immediately saving hundreds of dollars a year without sacrificing quality. I switched from one of Those companies to PureTalk myself several years ago and can tell you firsthand the service is top quality. $25 a month for unlimited talk, text and plenty of data is a great price point. Little known secret in the cell phone industry, but I want to tell it to you. PureTalk uses the same 5G network, same 5G towers as one of those three companies I mentioned. You got the same quality of service at a fraction of the price. With PureTalk you can keep your phone and your number from your cell phone. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. You can literally switch over to Pure Talk in about 10 minutes. Dial £250, say the keywords Clay and Buck to switch to Pure Talk Wireless. Buy Americans for Americans.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Gonna take some of your calls, talk backs and more here. Just giving you a roadmap of the next hour. We've got Senator Marsha Blackburn talking about the RES package, defunding npr, border security, all that good stuff. Maybe we'll put her on the hotspot for where she stands as a fellow Tennessean on the future of New York. I have a feeling she'll be more charitable toward New Yorkers. Keeping in mind that there are a million Republicans in New York City. Thank you very much. Unfortunately there's like 8 million communists, but there's a million Republicans and only half of them live on Staten island. So we will talk to Senator Blackburn here in a few minutes. Then we got Alan Dershowitz about his op ed Wall Street Journal. That topic of Epstein seems to have calmed a bit. President Trump has said we're moving on, at least calmed a bit in the media. I'm not, I'm not trying to stir anything up, but we'll talk to him a little bit about the whispers of a special counsel that have been going around too, which I think is a one, not going to happen and two would be a very bad idea. But anyway, we will talk to him about that coming up. And also we'll be drinking our Crockett Coffee. Crockett Coffee.com Go to Crockett Coffee. It's delicious. You will love it and 10% of the profits because it's on the Towers Foundation. Use code book, get a signed copy of Clay's American Playbook. And down the line for subscribers, we'll have other books too that will be signing Clay. Yours coming out November. Mine's January, I think is what we got.

[Clay Travis]

Right. One year. No, yours one year anniversary of the election. Yes. First week in November. But you can get an autographed copy. I want to get rid of all these. All these in the house. Laura Travis wants these gone candidly ed, so go subscribe and my assistant Katie, who is fabulous, will get them out to all of you and you'll get delectable coffee not made by communists.

[Buck Sexton]

And it's cool. Look at these designs. I got Davy Crockett surfing on the back of a, of a gator or a crocodile.

[Clay Travis]

I'm wearing my T shirt right now if you're watching on video.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, awesome.

[Clay Travis]

Is the gear is fantastic. It really is very cool. And you can find whatever you need.

[Buck Sexton]

Fantastic. All right, let's get to some of these, some of these calls, some of these. First of all, VIP email from Kyle Buck, lol. Dude, I picked up on your Pocahontas shot about her willingness to bury the hatchet and stay off the warpath. Thank you for that. I'm glad. You know, Kyle, I throw it in there. You got to listen close on the Clay and Buck show. You know, we're always, we're always weaving here. We're always keeping everybody on their toes. VIP email Brian, let the children touch the stove sometimes. That's the only way they learn. Man, this a lot.

[Clay Travis]

He well, first of all, I don't think you let the kids touch the stove. I mean, that can I mean you don't intentionally, but every now and then you do have to say, hey, we only have so many life vests and New York like you tried to make it live go of it but let Buck island go under the water and that ended up being the best outcome. Like Clay has turned into.

[Buck Sexton]

He's Billy Zane from Titanic and he's like when they're. When they're. Half of this ship is going to drown. And Clay's like, not the better half. Sorry, New York.

[Clay Travis]

That's Clay is funny email from Kyle on this. You should have said maybe if she had put if Rose had pulled Jack up on the door, it would sink and now they'd both be dead. Good point. New York's out of control. Gotta leave them behind. Can't let them both drown. Gotta let sometimes somebody has to around Sorry, New York.

[Buck Sexton]

Mo from Dutchess County, New York. 30 seconds. What's going on, Mo? What would it. Thank you very much. What would it take to sever New York state from the five burls?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, goodness.

[Buck Sexton]

This is an iHeart podcast.