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I bet a lot of you watched Roy McIlroy with the big win markets up a bit as the Trump Tariff discussion continues in earnest, particularly particularly as it pertains to China. We have got a ton to discuss with all of you from a variety of different perspectives. But right off the top, I know many of you have been really concerned about this, wanting the absolute latest. It didn't happen while we were on the air, but on Friday evening, Buck and Carrie Sexton became parents. Their baby boy, James arrived. Mom and baby are doing well. Buck says right now he expects to be back on tomorrow. So we can hear how the delivery went down in Miami. But the pictures are up. I know we have shared them from the Clay and Buck social account. I know that Buck has shared them from his social accounts. I would imagine that there are pictures for those of you who want to go and look certainly at those social accounts. But also I imagine that there are pictures up on clayandbuck.com and if there are not, we should definitely make sure that we post them there for people who are not out active on social media at all. But that is fabulous news and I know many of you have been following that closely. You've been asking about it and I was hoping we were going to be able to announce it before we went off the air on Friday. But come Friday evening, the official news that James Speed Sexton had entered the world came down and we're going to have a lot of fun talking with Buck about what it's like to have become a dad. And I know he is exhilarated and is going to be headed for many sleepless nights in the near future, as any dad and mom have experienced and many of you out there certainly have experienced in your life. So it's super exciting. So for those of you that have been concerned about that, really great news to start off our Monday that the baby is here and mom and baby are both doing well. So you can find pictures up on Buck's account, up on the Clay and Buck accounts and soon, if not already, up @clay and buck.com for those of you that are not super active on social media. Okay, where are we in the universe? That is awesome news. And like I said, I think Buck's gonna be back tomorrow. We'll see if that remains the case. It was out Thursday, Friday. We'll be back, I think on Tuesday with a brand new baby. Okay, so let's dive into a bunch of different stories that are underway right now. I mentioned the Masters. Trump also went to UFC 314 in Miami, did an Air Force One interview afterwards. We will play that for you. Coming up. A Pennsylvania governor, this is an awful story. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro had someone break into his house and try to burn down the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. I've got a lot of thoughts on this. They have arrested the suspect and his motivations remain unclear. But at a bare minimum, and I'm surprised more people are not talking about this angle, what a complete failure by the Pennsylvania security that is supposed to be protecting the governor of Pennsylvania. This guy was able to get into the governor's mansion and evade all security and nearly burned down the governor's mansion. I've seen the footage of this and it is absolutely indefensible that this could have been allowed to occur. I'm glad the governor and his family are okay, but I would imagine that he and certainly his kids and his wife are terrified. This shouldn't happen. We will talk some about that. Bill Maher made a major statement by going to visit Donald Trump. We have some cuts from him. Kid Rock set up that meeting and I thought Bill Maher addressed it very well on his Friday show. We will talk about that crazy woman Taylor Lorenz loves Luigi Mangione. And this is indicative of the broken moral code of many people on the left wing in this country. And and we're going to play some of those cuts. Stephen A. Smith, ESPN $20 million a year talent, did all the new shows over the weekend and it seems like he really may run for president. That is a sign of how weak the Democrat bench is. And we will discuss all of that and more. Plus, I did Fox and Friends weekend. A lot of you. I appreciate all the favorable feedback I did in addition to the 15 hours that we do on this program and the Outkick show and all the FOX News hits that I regularly do at a really good time on Saturday and Sunday, four hours each day, 6 to 10:10am East coast with racial Compost Duffy and Charlie Hurt. And I know many of you watched because that is a supremely popular show and many people out there watch that show on their weekends as they start their days. And so thank you for the feedback. We have no guest schedule today. I will open up the phone lines, allow you guys to weigh in I just laid out a variety of different topics that I want to hit. 800-282-2882. But I actually want to start with an experience that I had over the weekend in New York City. So I talked about on Friday, the fact that I was going to go to a couple of plays solo. Weather was awful. I went to go see Denzel Washington, Jake Gyllenhaal in Othello. That was an incredible experience. Really cool to see one of the greatest actors of his generation in Denzel Washington playing the title role in a Broadway performance in a theater that does not seat that many people, where you could really experience the incredible talent of someone of Denzel Washington's ability. That was really fun. I wanted to find something to do. I was in New York City solo. Weather was awful. I had to be up super early in the morning. So I don't want to go out late any for dinner or any sort of events on Friday or Saturday because of the alarms going off at 4:15 in the morning. And so I knew I had to be up early, I had to be fresh, I had to be good on television for four hours. So I don't want to do anything late. I went to a matinee for Othello on Saturday. To the extent that any of you have trips coming up, I think that is running until mid June. I thought it was extraordinary, really impressive. I'm glad that I went. But I also went to Good Night and Good Luck, which is George Clooney's play about Edward R. Murrow and the idea being that media should hold powerful people accountable. And it goes back in time. And you guys know I'm a history nerd. It goes back in time to the era of the House UN American Activities Committee with the junior Senator, as he keeps calling him from Wisconsin and everything surrounding that entire McCarthy era, what was and was not Communist infiltration in America. And Clooney plays Edward R. Murrow. And the journalists are the story and the heroes of this entire play. And it goes Back to again, 1950s era America with the McCarthy hearings that are going on in the Senate. And Murrow, George. George Clooney's character plays the 1950s crusading journalist Edward R. Murrow, who is trying to stand up to McCarthy and ends up in a really contentious relationship before eventually McCarthy is. Is brought down by some of the overreach of his investigation. And the CBS News journalists in general are the stars of the play. You guys know, making fun of myself. I don't like musicals, so I was not gonna Go see any musical. But Othello was great, and I didn't dislike Good Night and Good Luck. So if some of you are going on vacation or some of you're listening to us on wor, you're gonna be in New York. I didn't have any issues with the play itself, but at the end of the play, as George Clooney is delivering a monologue, they start behind him to show a lot of different media coverage since the 1950s. And so they show John F. Kennedy being assassinated. They show Walter Cronkite reacting to it, if I remember correctly, they show on up Reagan Berlin Wall being torn down, the 1990s era. CNN coverage of the first Gulf War, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, all of the things that the media has covered. And as Clooney is delivering a monologue, he is saying that there's a line in the play where the CBS executive says, well, at some point, what if there isn't an Edward R. Murrow? They're fighting for what the truth is, and they're trying to indict both sides. There are clips as the. As the cavalcade of imagery continues. There are clips from Fox News, from msnbc to their credit. They even include the defense of Joe Biden's mental acuity as evidence of why you shouldn't trust the media. And that runs all the way up to the present day. Of course, they take shots at Fox News over dominion and all those different things. Again, it's sort of a matrix like blanket of television imagery behind Clooney as he is delivering his closing monologue in the guise of Edward R. Murrow. And then it ends. The very final image that you see is of Elon Musk not tapping his chest and then trying to gesture to all of the people in the crowd to say, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Which is what Musk was trying to do. It doesn't show you the tapping on the chest. It only shows him doing what was described in the media as a Nazi salute. And so it freezes on Musk for the entire theater to see. And everyone, by and large, at least 2/3, 75% of the audience, gasps as if, oh, my goodness, look at how far America has fallen, that Elon Musk is doing a Nazi salute on the stay in. In front of all these people. Except it's not true, and we talked about this back in January. Again, he taps his heart and I'll admit somewhat awkwardly, is trying to salute the different parts of the arena as public speakers might do. But the way they clipped it, they left it with him giving what they were clearly intending to show to be a Nazi salute. And the crowd gasps. And I just found it to be such a fascinating window into this sort of New York City liberal mind. And I would love to talk. I'm sure they won't. Come on. I'll have producer Ali invite whoever did the screenwriting for the play, whatever you call the playwriting, I guess, or George Clooney himself, to try to explain what their intent is. Because the entire message of the play is be careful, trusting the media and people in positions of authority, because they can easily play on your emotions and lead you astray. And then the play itself ends with George Clooney's play insinuating that Elon Musk gave a Nazi salute, which he didn't actually do. And all of the emotional reaction from inside of the play is, oh, my goodness, can you believe what this awful right wing Elon Musk is doing? We've allowed an actual Nazi to ascend into some position of power. And what I find so incredibly intriguing about this is on a beneficial, generous reading of this, it's actually the playwrights ridiculing the vast majority of the audience that is watching the play. Because you can make an argument, I don't think it's a crazy one, that they're actually satirizing, mocking the fact that all of these people think they're above being played for fools by the media. You can make that read. And if they did it, it's somewhat diabolical, and it's lacerating in its penetrate, penetrating criticism of the people that think they're the smart ones and that they're above being played. I don't think they're doing that, but that's a generous reading of what the intent was by showing that Elon Musk image. More likely, I think George Clooney and all of the other leftists involved in putting on this play are lighting the entire message of their play on fire by using an image that doesn't reflect what it actually was in an effort to try to demonstrate how dangerous unchecked government can be. And in actuality, they did an entire play talking about how great it is that the media could hold powerful people accountable. And then at the end of the play, they undercut the entire message of the play by showing that modern media is actually incapable of giving an honest portrayal and recitation of what's truly happening in the country. And the vast majority of the people in that audience had no earthly idea what the Total context of the Musk salute was. And I think it's incredibly important to talk about this and hold them accountable. Elon Musk has responded to the tweets that I put out. I'll share what Elon Musk said, but in a larger context, some of you are saying, well, I don't know why you would pay to go see a George Clooney play. I do it for the same reason that I reread the New York Times and the Washington Post every morning. I don't think you strengthen your own arguments without confronting the arguments that others are making. I am confident that I could make left wing arguments better than most left wingers because I study and read them more. The reason why I make the arguments to you every single day is because I'm confident that they're the best arguments. But you can't cover up your ears and run and hide from popular culture. You have to engage with it in order to be able to win arguments. I would argue one reason why left wingers have started to do so poorly when they're actually questioned is because they live in an ecosystem that never challenges the basics of their opinion. Which is why I think Ron DeSantis wiped the floor with Governor Gavin Newsom of California, if you remember, in the Sean Hannity debate that those guys had, because Newsom is not used to being pressed, because he lives in a world where the media bathes him in adulation all the time. Me, many of you, a lot of us who have sought out our own experiences to reach the conclusions and the opinions that we have, we've had to grapple with and consider left wing opinion in a way that they never consider right wing opinion. So I'm going to open up the phone lines, but I wanted to share that experience with you because if I hadn't gone, I don't know that very many people would be talking about something like this at all. And I also thought that gasp. That moment when the audience gasped as if Elon Musk were an actual Nazi was so revealing because they buy into things that are beyond a shadow of a doubt, not actually remotely true. And someone like George Clooney profits off it while lecturing all of us about the importance of trust in media. Uh, I just. It was such an interesting moment for me on Friday night when I was watching that play and I had that. That moment, that shocking revelation of the Nazi salute, which wasn't actually a Nazi salute, but I felt like I might have been the only guy in the entire theater who knew the full context of that and I felt like it was so profoundly dishonest by Clooney and everyone who was involved in the play. But we'll talk about that a little bit more. But I wanted to take you into that window of what they are seeing and what that discussion might be like. No secret here. Many American farmers out there at risk of going bankrupt because they are battling every single day to give you the best possible food. We want you to buy local. We want you to buy American cattle, chickens, hogs, thrive. This is what the good ranchers people do. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Lots of stuff to get to, lots of you reacting. I should mention that right now President Trump also meeting with the president of El Salvador, Bukele, and they are talking about the prisons there and what they will be able to do there. In fact, Bukele is saying that he will not return the prisoner. That is the focus right now. The Maryland man who the United States says a member of Trend, they say that he is not. So we will see what ends up happening there. In fact, let's go ahead and play that. Cut 29 this is El Salvador's president saying how can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? I don't have the power to return him. This just happened in the Oval Office. Bush suggesting that I smuggle a terrorist into the United States. Right. How can I smuggle, how can I return him to the United States? Like I smuggle him into the United States or what do I do? Of course I'm not going to do it. It's like, I mean the question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? I don't have the power to return him to the United States. So that is what is just now happening in the Oval Office. Don in New York City says he saw the same play I did. Don, what was your reaction? Did you hear the crowd react the same way? And did it also color you in thinking, man, they just destroyed the entire purpose of the play with that final image? I couldn't agree with you more, Clay. You characterized it exactly right. Had the same reaction. It was a terrific play. The music in particular was great. Loved every bit of it. Except the thing that sticks in my mind, that last image. Did the crowd gasp in the theater in the same way that they did? And did you feel, I don't know if you voted for Trump or not. Did you feel like you were in an incredible minority when you saw that image? And you knew, as I did, and I imagine a large context of this crowd did, that Musk had tapped his heart and then, you know, sort of extended his hand, and they didn't show that at all. They just showed him as if he were doing a Nazi salute. Yes, completely agree. Yeah, I was really disappointed. I just. It was. It was, frankly, it was unnecessary and took away from the entire point of the play, which is to try and show the need for balanced reporting and objectivity and holding people accountable. And then I don't think they held the play accountable with that last image. I think that's well said. Now, I'm curious, do you think that no one on the play knows the larger context? Do you think they were just trying to be provocative? I mean, this is why. Because I'm sure I went into my mentions after I talked about this, and people are like, oh, I don't know why you would even go to a play like that. My job is, I think, to engage with as many arguments as I can, and I'm open to being convinced that I'm wrong. That's how I ended up voting for Trump. I'm not someone who said in 2016, Trump is the greatest human who's ever existed. I had to be convinced that he was doing a good job. I don't know what your voting history is, but I imagine you went with the idea being, hey, I want to see what kind of culture they're conveying here. And up until the end, it felt fairly even handed, even to me. The montage that they were showing was intended to show, hey, look, they covered for Joe Biden and his health. Like, right. The media can get many things wrong. I just, it really left me with a sour taste the way it ended. And it frankly, just reinforced how many people don't see the full scope of A story and lack context to understand arguments. Yeah, again, I was disappointed. And, you know, frankly, that's what Bill Maher has been talking about. They need to have a good dialogue. That's balanced approach. I mean, give Mark credit on that front as well. But I was giving the play credit for being objective when they talked about Biden and so forth. And then it fell apart with that last image. And I think they did it. I mean, they knew what they were doing. No surprise. Okay, well, thank you for the call. Thank you for also sharing that you went and watched it. And again, I understand people out there because I get this every time I talk about an article in the New York Times. Every time I talk about an article in the Washington Post, people say, oh, I don't know why you would even read that. I don't know why you would subscribe to that. I think it's important that everyone experience as many possible arguments as they can because your arguments are strengthened by experiencing everything. I've got a junior in high school right now who is at a debate tournament. He's down in Georgia at a high school debate tournament. He loves debate. They have to read every possible argument because they don't know what side of the argument they're going to have to make. And I've talked about this before. I went to law school. I loved it. Anybody's thinking about going to law school. I went to Vanderbilt for law school. It was fabulous. When you come out of law school, the thing I didn't like was you are, particularly as a young lawyer, obligated to take clients who can afford to pay for your salary. You're a hired advocate. You pay enough money, by and large, especially as a young lawyer. As you get older, you can pick your clients more, but you are forced as a young lawyer to take whatever side your law firm takes. And so I defended a lot of big corporations, and that's fine. A lot of big corporations need defense, too. But it wasn't as if I could look at a case and say, actually, I like the other side of the case better. Hey, I want to take the other side. You're a hired gun, so to speak. You use your advocacy skills in exchange for being paid. What I get to do now, which I love, is I get to look at the entirety of arguments, and I get to say, hey, you know what? I think this. This argument has. This is the best side. I think this argument is more cogent. I think it wins. And I don't think you can make good arguments. Just like my son in Debate could never win debate tournaments if he only argued one side and only won and read the evidence from the side he agrees with. I don't think in larger society we can win arguments by burying our head in the sand and not paying attention to what other people are saying. And sometimes they may be able to persuade you that something is right that you hadn't considered. I'm open to the idea every single day that I could be wrong. Why is I so confident during COVID Because I read everything. And I was confident that shutting down schools was a moronic decision. I was confident that kids didn't need to be running around on a basketball court in masks. I was confident that young kids should be able to play sports. The data supported me. But you know how I got to a lot of that data? By reading all of the reports that were out there from the left wing media and not being willing or able to find them persuasive. And I think a lot of you do this. I think that's how a lot of you have found me and how you found Buck and how you found this show. Because I see the numbers on how we're growing and I think we're speaking to 75% of the country now. And I think certainly if you're on the right, you tend to be more exposed to the arguments of the left than the left is to the arguments of the right. And frankly, if you're living in such a world where you saw that image of Elon Musk and you thought, oh my goodness, he's out there doing Nazi salutes, it's not a credit to you, it's actually a discredit. Because you haven't been exposed as much as you should have been to the full context of arguments. Which is why I think we could win. I think the listeners of this show, if we tested you guys, would test far higher on knowledge not only of so called right wing talking points, but also left wing talking points. While we play clips from the View for you, while we play clips from CNN and msnbc. Because I think it's important for you to know what they are saying. And I just, I couldn't get over it when I saw the way that that play ended. Christian in North Carolina, you got a question? Yeah. Hey, Christian, what you got for us? Hey, sir. So I was wondering, with the Elon Musk, with the play they made, is there no way that Elon could charge them for defamation of character? Yeah, thanks for the call. Legally, that standard for defamation is tough in the United States based on The New York Times v. Sullivan case. This is me putting on my, my lawyer hat. But I do think that if I were Elon, and we're going to reach out to him and see if he wants to come on this program because again, he responded to, to the me sharing the information about that play, which I'm sure he's heard about from other people too. If I were him, I would call out George Clooney directly. I think George Clooney should have to answer for the way that that clip is portrayed at the end of the movie and explain what his intent was in using it because I think it's fundamentally dishonest. And if I were giving you the reading of he's trying to point out that people on the left can also be subject to having their emotions taken advantage of. Well, that would be an interesting take and it would basically be him indicting the entire audience that's paid to come watch that play, by and large, because I think people like me were in the minority reacting as we did. But I do think that's a interesting question. I would come out into the public arena and call out George Clooney directly if I were Elon Musk, because I do think that would be a worthy commentary from him. The challenge is it's very hard when you're a public figure to be able to get damages in the United States for defamation. I'm sure what they would say in their defense was that it wasn't intended to be directly representative of what Elon Musk said and that their goal was just to be provocative because a play is a work of art and they wanted to get the gasp. They wanted to get the reaction from the audience. Sometimes that's true. Provocation can be a goal of art. The problem here, as I see it, is the entire message of your play was we need an honest journalist base to hold people who are powerful accountable. And then you dishonestly edited an image to completely defeat the entire purpose of your play. At the end. We'll talk about this. We'll take more of your calls. Again, no guests today. 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And it's why I think Elon Musk calling them out publicly could force that. Because if they knew the full context, that gets closer to a legally actionable activity that Elon Musk could, could engage in because then they're intentionally not showing the full context. And I think it's an interesting question. I'm trying to be somewhat charitable in the. In explaining, hey, maybe there's multiple motivations. Maybe there's somebody who's actually a undercover conservative inside of that organization and he got that Elon Musk Nazi salute up. And every single time that it's shown in that theater, he enjoys or she enjoys the reaction because it further confirms what a bubble these elite left wing New Yorkers by and large are living in. But I do think it's an interesting question and I think you have to engage in the culture to examine why it might be going on. I appreciate the call. Um, this was just some fireworks inside of the Oval Office. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and our buddy, well, he's our buddy too. Both these guys are our buddies. And Stephen Miller just called out CNN with the facts on the situation in El Salvador as it pertains. To illegals that are being held in prisons there. Listen to cut 32. I don't understand what the confusion is. This individual is a citizen of El Salvador. He was illegally in the United States and was returned to this country. That's where you deport people back to their country of origin. Except for Venezuela, that was refusing to take people back in places like that. I can tell you this, Mr. President. No. The foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States, not by a court. And no court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States States. It's that simple. The court specifically said he couldn't be sent back to El Salvador. Point. The Supreme Court said exactly what Marco said, that no court has the authority to compel a foreign policy function in the United States. We want a case nine zero. And people like CNN are portraying it as a loss, as usual because they want foreign terrorists in the country who kidnap women and children. But President Trump, his policy is foreign terrorists that are here illegally get expelled from the country, which, by the way, is a 9010 issue. I think he's right. And Stephen Miller does fantastic work. Again, that's just happening. We've got the El Salvador president visiting inside of the Oval Office. The debate, the dispute whether or not illegals can be sent to El Salvador and what sort of hearings they're entitled to. Before that takes place, we'll break down that continued battle going on inside of the Oval Office. Will also talk about the Josh Shapiro house burning, Pennsylvania's governor, what is occurring there. And also Taylor Lorenz, this is a former Washington Post reporter, says she loves Luigi Mangione. This is the individual accused of committing the murder of the health care executive and that he is a very morally fine person. I think you're going to hear this audio and I think you're going to be of the opinion that you cannot believe it is real. That's my reaction. Plus we'll get into Bill Maher visiting Donald Trump, the Kid Rock dinner. And Stephen A. Smith of ESPN did all the morning shows and says he may run for president. What in the world's going on? That's still to come on Clay and Buck. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to have supervision, enhanced hearing, extraordinary reflexes to be, dare we say, superhuman? Will Roku's new pro series TV can't do any of that for you. 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