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the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Great to be here with all of you across this great land of ours. We have updates on the air campaign against Iran. The war from the sky continuing on. President Trump weighing in with his assessment of how this is going to so far. Concerns rising as the Strait of Hormuz has become a bit of a ghost town. Not a lot of shipping going through there because of concerns about Iranian reprisals. Oil prices jumping a little bit. Some are starting to hit the pannikin button on that one. We will look at the analysis and where things actually are and what is likely to happen. More on that Texas Senate race, more on James Talarico. And I have to say some of the chatter online is, guys, we have to hold some of these clips until closer to the election because some of them are truly astonishing. And the fact that Democrats believe that this is a person who will win a Senate seat in Texas, I wouldn't want this person in charge of the Mr. Softy stand on the corner. Uh, this guy is a loon. This guy is crazy. But we'll get into it. But he quotes the Bible. So if you work for the New York Times, anybody who kind of sounds like this and quotes the Bible has to be a godly man. And so he must know something even though he thinks that Jesus all about trans, all about transing the youth, big Jesus, huge into transing the kids, according to James Tallarico. We'll talk more about this. And also I'm a little too excited about this actually. But apparently it's not the first of its kind. But a rule, a rule for the skies has nothing to do with our air war in Iran. A rule for the skies when it comes to air travel that is, I think in defense of Western civilization itself. I think finally the savages are on their back heels thanks to a United Airlines rule that if you, you know, you know what, Clay? I don't want to get into it right now because we have more important things, but this gets me very excited. And you know what it has to do with headphone usage on planes. The Savages can no longer have their way with just playing their iPads and their phones with no headphones. So we all have to hear whatever garbage they're watching or listening to. It is.
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I thought there's a bunch. We're going to have some fun and also talk about serious things that are going on right now. I love the James Talarico story because this thing is just an utter disaster. We're going to go to Israel, by the way, at the bottom of this hour with Yale Eckstein and hear what it's like in Israel right now. And then our buddy Ryan Gardusky is going to be on with us to talk some of this Talarico and decision making as it pertains to the Senate landscape as the primaries have started. But Buck, I think the biggest and most important thing about Iran right now, if you look at the overall trajectory of where we're headed, is what is the exit strategy for Iran in the context of to what extent are they going to reach a leader that we are okay with? Because I would suggest, I'm curious if you would, how you would analyze this. Iran's strategy right now I think is going to be, hey, we'll just take as many bombs as necessary and the president is not going to stay committed to this long range. And all we've got to do is withstand four or five weeks of significant bombing and then we'll stick our heads up, see who is still around and we'll just elevate somebody. I think this is what the government in power right now is thinking. The the next ayatollah is not going to be a lot different than the past ayatollah and we will try to rebuild from the destruction that is there. I think the question is to what extent is the new leader signed off on by America and what is the time frame? Because I think the longer this goes on, the tougher it gets for Trump. But the reality is when we're bombing from a distance, I don't think it really impacts a lot of Americans in a very significant way.
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Well, this is why I mentioned the war angle, the oil prices situation. The oil prices spike is something that certainly, if this continues on and if it happens along the lines what we saw with the Russia Ukraine war, where I think it got up to 120something dollars a barrel at one point because of concerns over access to fossil fuels, to gas and natural gas and oil. So that's something that they have to take into consideration here. The Strait of Hormuz is a strategic choke point. About 20% of the world's global oil supply does go through that strait. And there are currently hundreds of ships, tankers, etc. Idling. Not really sure where they're going or what they're going to do because they're not going to be able to enter or exit the strait under the current circumstance. That has to change. Trump, meanwhile, saying, this is cut 14. Things are going great from the aerial war front, even better than he expected them to play. 14. We're doing very well on.
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On the war front, to put it mildly.
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I would say somebody said, on a scale of 10, where would you rate it? I said about a 15. Their leadership is just rapidly going, everybody
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It's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place. And he's saying, on a scale of 10, I would rate it about 15. Clay Trump seems to be very pleased with how this is going so far, that we are in a position to essentially destroy all of the offensive capability. One of the big parts of this is tracking and destroying what they call the missile cities. Wall Street Journal had a big piece on this. These underground bunkers, essentially, where they store a lot of missiles, and then they have these mobile missile launchers. Those are like the first things that US And Israeli planes are looking to pick off. Not only are we picking them off the moment they move to try to fire, but also we're destroying those bunkers in place, caving them in. And so all of a sudden, thousands of missiles will no longer be accessible to the Iranian regime. The military outgunning that we are seeing right now is, I think, far beyond what a lot of people would have expected.
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I think that's completely right. And again, one of the things that is so interesting, and you know this because you're a military history person as well, is conflict accelerates technological advance. And initially, wars are fought on the technology of the past war. Everybody says, hey, this would have beaten the past war. And then you start to see an evolution rapidly. You've seen it with Ukraine and Russia. I think there is an argument, and I'm not sure, you know, how long it's going to exist, but I think there's an argument that boots on the ground is not a requirement anymore like it would have been in the past, because you can find and track people through the technology, technological sophistication and evolution that we have seen in a way that didn't exist in the past. And let me hit you with this, this question, Buck? Because I was thinking about it this morning as I was doing my prep when we did the first Gulf War, I think a lot of people thought, hey, we should have continued on. This is the one in 1990 ish. And we could have taken out Saddam Hussein. We didn't. And then we went back in in 2003 and all of the disaster that that ensued from there. In today's technology, we would have just been able to wipe out Saddam Hussein without ever having to, to have the mass troops in the same way. And I wonder how that would have changed 1990 and 2003 if we had been able to decapitate Saddam Hussein and like we did with the Ayatollah. And I do think that President Trump who just said to Axios, Khomeini's son is a lightweight. This is, there are reports that the Ayatollah's 40 some odd young son is going to be elevated. I have to be involved in the appointment. President Trump to Axios. I have to be involved in the appointment. So the current kid that they're trying to elevate, I say kid, he's in his 40s, according to Trump, is a lightweight. And Trump says I need to be involved in the choice that they make as to who the next leader is. So I think what you're seeing is the White House sees this as a Venezuela like situation. Now the wild card here is is it possible that there could be people out there who are rising up inside of Iran. You're skeptical on that, that it's more difficult without us being boots on the ground to actually have a regime change.
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Well, I gotta tell you, and we have so many veterans, gwad veterans listening right now, many of whom serve tours of combat in Iraq, many of whom served multiple tours, spent years of their lives over there. And you start talking about using the Kurds as the cleanup force for Iran, which is being reported all over the place. Now the White House has said no, no, we're not confirming that. They're not denying it. They're not confirming it. But everybody who remembers the, the rough days in Iraq knows that the Kurds, they have a utility. They, they are good allies for what they are in the areas that are Kurdish. But the moment that you start telling people who are non Kurdish that the Kurdish overlords, so to speak, have arrived, you get big problems. There's big problems in Iraq and it could cause, I think, big problems in Iran. And I think that's why the administrator, the administration knows I don't think they're going to do that. I think they'll want the Kurds to just do what they did in Iraq, stabilize the more Kurdish portions of Iran. And the point here is, Clay, we got to find somebody else that has some kind of federalist unifying capability here to get them. First of all, you have to get out of. You have to oust the people who still have control of the guys with the guns, which has not happened yet. We've taken out the major military equipment. But until people aren't afraid that men with masks and AK47s will come in the middle of night and execute them in front of their families for speaking out, this thing is a long way from over. We have to get through that phase, which means we need somebody with ground, you know, ground strength of some. Of some level. And then we have to have somebody who will oversee a transition to elections and a. Basically, I think what they want is a constitutional monarchy rather. I think that would be the best situation. You bring back the Shah, you have a constitution, you have elections. The Shah is kind of a figurehead for a period of time, maybe that's the way. But this is the big missing piece here. I mean, I feel much better about what's going to happen in Venezuela, or I should say higher confidence level about what's going to happen in Venezuela over the next three years than Iran. Right now, it's just an unknown.
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I think all that is, is well said. Here's one thing that I would. I would say, I think the way we could get out is we declare victory. We allow someone that we don't think is. Is actually anywhere near as bad as the ayatollah to come to power. And here's the stick. The carrot is, ok, you're the new ruler of Iran. Here's the stick, Buck. We have demonstrated that we can kill any leader of Iran basically whenever the President of the United States or Israel decides to do so. And I would think that if you get a new ruler, that the president is in some way in favor of that. In the back of their mind, knowing, wait a minute, that could be me too, makes it far more likely that they are going to follow the direction of the President. And I think to a large extent, Marco Rubio. And look, that's the deal that Dele Rodriguez has right now in Venezuela. They, if you read what happened there, they said, hey, we took Maduro. She was like, no way. And they were like, here's a video of him. He's in our possession. You either are going to Work with us, or we're going to take you out and prosecute you two. And I have to believe that those are the kind of conversations that are going to take place in Iran. Now, in an ideal world, you would end up with a constitutional monarchy and you would have sane rulers, and you would have a brand new regime that comes in, and Iran would become a flourishing marketplace of ideas in a way that it was prior to the rise of the Islamic Republic. That might be too optimistic. So having a ruler that we know doesn't have the ability to get nuclear weapons is a supreme success. As we said yesterday, if we could go back in time and keep North Korea from having nuclear weapons, the world would be much safer here. We may well have done that for Iran. And what I come back to is this is the antithesis of what most politicians do. Most politicians just worry about the time when they're in office, and then they leave big messes for the next politician to have to try to clean up. Trump is making here, to his credit, a generational decision that he will not personally necessarily benefit from very much in the next two years and change that he has to be President of the United States. And that is actually incredibly commendable. Trump is trying to do a lot of things right now that I think are generational in nature that will not inure directly to his benefit. In fact, if you look, as you mentioned, at the price of gas in the short term, it honestly has a political cost that is more substantial for him than the benefit that he will get out of it.
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Welcome back in play Travis. BUCK SEXTON SHOW we are talking about the latest situation on Iran. Again the president saying that he wants to be involved in picking the next leader of Iran. I don't think either of us expect for there to be boots on the ground. And again I think the technology is such that the new leader of Iran is going to know that he could be killed at any moment. And when that is the reality operating in the back of your head, maybe you're more likely to be a partner of the United States and Israel as well. But Steve in Oklahoma, you think Israel is going to put boots on the ground?
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I think we can discount the ferocity of Israel. And what is the possibility that they go boots on the ground, we bring in the Apaches, the Warthog. We've already got the P52s there so let's just do it.
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I think Buck my take on that would be I would severely if they asked Israel putting boots on the ground is a really bad idea to me. Much worse than us.
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Yes, yes much. There's something maybe a surprise to some people. There is a lot of anti Semitism in the Muslim world. Just, just letting you know the whole Israel thing not not great in a lot of part. And and the Israel in a country that's getting bombed and showing up not not going to go over well I'm just going to tell you this right now. As somebody who used to read the jihadist intercepts when they were calling me a Crusader or Jew, that's what they used to call us in Iraq. Yeah, it would not go over well, Clay.
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Well, what we're seeing is the war of good versus evil come very, very clear to fruition. I think what we're seeing is spiritual warfare that everyone is tapping into and we're starting to see how the light always shines, the good always wins. And we're seeing America and Israel come together in order to stand for those values of freedom, of security, of protection. And of course, here in Israel, all of our hearts are going out to the brave servicemen and women who were killed in this for freedom.
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What is the general goal in your mind? Yellen, it's great to hear from you. It's look forward to seeing you in person again. What do you think the general consensus of the average Israeli citizen is now for what victory looks like in Iran? We were just talking about that off the top. What do Americans, what does the Trump administration continue to consider to be victory? What is considered victory in Israel? What's the goal now?
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Well, October 7th changed everything for Israel. And also I believe for Americans that were looking on up until October 7, there were many enemies who said, death to Israel, death to America. Hamas, right on Israel's border was gearing up for war. And our position was always, they could say whatever they want, but as long as they're not acting, we're not going to preemptively do anything to stop them. And after October 7th, what the Americans and the Israelis saw very clearly was when there is a dangerous enemy country who's saying, death to America, death to Israel, when they are standing up on the parliament floor and they're burning the American flag and the Israeli flag, when they're saying, first we're going to go and kill all the Saturday people, the Jews, and then we're going to go for the Sunday people and kill all of them, what we learned is that we have to take that seriously. And so what that means is that we cannot let these people who are not only oppressing their own nation, but holding the whole Western world hostage. We can't just kick the ball down the road anymore. We need to be brave for what we believe in. And I believe that God blesses when we have the right intentions. When it's to free the Western world to stand for the sanctity of life, we see enormous blessings and miracles that are taking place every single day.
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Speaking to Yael Eckstein of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, now she is in Israel. Yael, can you speak to how things have changed with the Trump administration obviously playing a large role in this, but between relationship between the state of Israel and non Iranian Muslim countries in the region, the Gulf states and others, because there seems to be, well, more sanity for sure coming from that part of the world. With respect to Israel, I was wondering if you could speak to how that is manifesting.
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We have seen miracles, clay and vag, and you are here on the ground that you were able to witness some of that. No one thought that the Abraham Accords would happen. And then once they happened and took place, an agreement between Israel and America and this Arab world, so many countries that have historical, historically always been enemies of Israel, suddenly to have an agreement, no one thought that would happen. And then they said, okay, they signed an agreement, but it's not going to hold. And now here we are years later, where there is a strategic alliance and partnership between these Gulf states, between Muslims, between Jews, between Christians, everyone standing together in this pursuit of freedom and the sanctity of life. And it's something that President Trump saw, that he believed in that he worked towards and he realized, just as we see in Scriptures, strength we have to show in order to bring peace, that God blesses the nation with strength and then God blesses the nation with peace. And so what we're seeing today with our neighbors is something historic. Iran thought that by bombing the UAE and Dubai and even some European countries that they would turn the whole world against Israel. But really they're just taking off the mask to see how dangerous Iran is and how much we need to come together, those of us who sanctify life in these Judeo Christian values to make sure the future is brighter for our children and grandchildren.
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One of the super positive potential outcomes here is Saudi Arabia normalizing relations with Israel. Other countries have already started it. The Abraham Accords have been a tremendous success. I think Yale, and you may disagree, but I think that was actually the motivation for why the attack of October 7 happened because they were trying to derail the positive progress that was being made there. How optimistic are you? Let's leave aside the next few months. Let's talk about the next few years. You've lived in Israel for a while. How optimistic are you about the future for peace? Have there been a time when you have been more optimistic in the past? How would you assess the larger picture here right now?
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What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light. And so when you're talking about Saudi Arabia potentially joining this Abraham Accord, that would be historic, that would change the entire Middle east and would change the entire world, really, through this alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia, between the Western world and Saudi Arabia. Yes, I think darkness tried to do everything in order to destroy that. But we know at the end of the day, from the stories in the scriptures of Bilam and Balak, those who try to curse end up blessing. We know from the story of Purim that just took place, that wicked Haman tried to kill all the Jews, but in the end he ended up being hung on the same gallows that he prepared for the innocent people. This war of October 7th began because many people like you believe that they wanted to stop the Abraham Accords from growing. They wanted to stop normalization. But we're seeing is the same historic biblical story that we've seen time and time again. They went out to curse and they ended up blessing.
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Your daughter is in the IDF right now. I think a lot of Americans who have military members in their families think about this battle in a different way. As a result, because they're directly connected to it, virtually everyone in Israel with Children, has children in the idf, grandchildren in the idf. I think a lot of Americans still have not really understood that. So can you talk about not only, obviously you represent the IFCJ and you have a lot of responsibility on that front, but you're also a mom with a kid in the idf and so are a lot of moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas. How does that impact the way this battle and this war hits in Israel and maybe a way that's different than other places?
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It's a great question because for each one of us, it's so personal. My 19 year old daughter right now is on the border of Gaza, protecting this land, making sure that no terrorists can come in. When I dropped her off at the army base after she had a few days off and she went, so proud and I said, are you scared? And she said, mommy, of course I'm scared. But I believe what I'm doing is meaningful. I believe what I'm doing is not only protecting the people of Israel, but protecting the values that I hold dear that are very strong in America and Europe and everywhere else. If I'm not standing here, the darkness will spread. And so for each one of us is personal in the sense of I think my prayers are full of maybe more tears. I think my hope for peace is not just a saying, but it's in my heart, it's that my children are on the front lines. I know my son in a year is going to be joining the army. And so it's very personal. But that personal association with this war, that personal prayer that comes between every single news headline, every single siren and every single piece of information that's coming out of this war, it's holding two, maybe you could say conflicting emotions, but really they're the same. On one hand, I want this war to be over. I want this to end. And on the other hand, I know that this is a war that is needed to protect my children and my grandchildren, that it can't end until we have fulfilled our objectives. And while we're in the middle of fighting this war, what we can do, every one of us. My daughter's on the front lines, but you know what? I'm going bomb shelter to bomb shelter, delivering food to holocaust survivors. My daughter is on the front line, but I'm going to schools and placing bomb shelters. On behalf of the fellowship. What I see is that everyone can do their part to bring more light. We can't just sit back and complain. We can't just curse the darkness. We can't just be consumed by self righteous anger. We have to go out and help.
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Yell, I appreciate you coming on telling us what's going on in Israel right now. Stay safe, keep your family safe as well and know that a lot of people all over the United States are praying for you guys and for everybody who is involved in fighting evil right now.
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We feel it. Thank you so much. God bless you.
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Welcome back in here to Play and Buck. And we're gonna be talking more about all of the Iran news today. We'll also get into the James Talarico situation in Texas. And we'll talk to our friend Ryan Gardusky about the primary, where some of that is. President Trump reportedly going to endorse in the Texas primary, which is an interesting change of pace. So we shall, we shall get into some of that. Podcast listener David in Texas wants to weigh in on the Iran situation. Play H.
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I have a thought.
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The allies, usa, Israel and anyone else
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that wants to play along knows where the rallies are happening against the regime in Iran.
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Airdrop weapons to the people. We keep talking about how the biggest problem for the people is that they're unarmed. Well, get them armed and they can overthrow their own government. I wish it was that easy. Yeah.
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Here's the challenge. It's one thing to say, hey, they're going to overthrow the government. You could speak. I mean, I bet you did a bunch of deep dives on how the
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So my point on it would be, look, we are kicking Iran's ass because we have much better men and materiel. And, and we are exposing the gap between what Iran, Iran claimed to be able to do and what they're actually able to do. All that's very positive. The average poorly armed Iranian military group dwarfs any kind of opposition armament that could rise up against them. Right. And so this idea that what you need to have happen, and you tell me if I'm wrong or right on this, based on your actual expertise in this, you have to have the military get behind someone new in order to have any kind of successful attempt to overthrow the existing government. Right.
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And unless the military is willing to line up behind someone new, this idea that you're going to have, oh, X number of people storm a facility like, as long as the military is committed to the government in power, there is almost no opportunity at all to ever have a successful coup. Would that be a pretty succinct analysis of where we are?
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Yeah. This is why you generally see either a general or maybe the head of the security service in a coup situation, which is what we're really dealing with here. We can use that word. I mean, we are essentially, we are trying to midwife a coup into existence. We are trying to bring about a coup in Iran. That is what this air campaign ultimately is. And I think we should be honest about that. But you've got about a half a million, half a million Iranian men, 600,000 Iranian men under arms, plus you've got tens of thousands of besieged. Those are the Iranian or the Islamic Revolution's brown shirts. They go around and they're the. They're the street thugs. So you got tens of thousands of them. So this is comp. It's very complicated. Because the answer, Clay, is yes, you do need. By the way, this is why in Afghanistan, yeah, we use the Northern alliance to kick out the Taliban. But then do you know who we had to work with? Pashtun warlords, province by province, guys who had guys on the payroll with guns, and some of them were very bad hombres. But that was. That was what we had, and it didn't end up working out for us in the long term. But there really wasn't another option. And that included a major, you know, eventually included a major US Occupation force, and it still didn't work. So you want to work within the existing power structure to the greatest degree possible while lopping off the head of the power structure. It's not a. Not an easy thing to. To pull off here. I, I wonder, like I said, Venezuela, I think it's a pretty straightforward pathway, and I think. I think Venezuela is on a. Is on a trajectory of things just getting better and better. I really do. Iran, 50, 50. This thing could go either way. I'm just being honest. This thing could go either way.
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In this hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton break down the latest global and domestic headlines, with a substantial focus on the ongoing conflict with Iran and its potential ramifications for global politics, economics, and technology. With a mix of humor and pointed commentary, they also discuss developments in U.S. politics—especially the Texas Senate race—and feature a compelling real-time report from Yael Eckstein in Israel.
Aerial Campaign & Geopolitical Fallout
Technology & Modern Warfare
Regime Change, Risks, and Strategies
Economic & Political Ramifications
Defining Victory & the Impact of October 7
“What we’re seeing is the war of good versus evil come…clear to fruition…I believe that God blesses when we have the right intentions. When it’s to free the Western world, to stand for the sanctity of life, we see enormous blessings and miracles” (Yael Eckstein, [25:32]).
Regional Dynamics & the Abraham Accords
Future Optimism & the Human Toll
“What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light...when you’re talking about Saudi Arabia potentially joining this Abraham Accord, that would change the entire Middle East and would change the entire world...” (Yael, [30:51]).
“…My 19-year-old daughter is on the border of Gaza…she said, ‘mommy, of course I’m scared. But I believe what I’m doing is meaningful…If I’m not standing here, the darkness will spread’” (Yael, [32:48]).
Audience Q&A – Iran Uprising Feasibility
“You do need…the military to get behind someone new in order to have any kind of successful attempt to overthrow the existing government” (Clay, [42:10]).
On Trump’s Attitude Toward the Iran Campaign
“On the war front, to put it mildly…somebody said, on a scale of 10, where would you rate it? I said about a 15.”
— Donald Trump, quoted by Buck, ([08:41])
On Technological Change in Warfare
“Conflict accelerates technological advance…wars are fought on the technology of the past war…then you start to see evolution rapidly.”
— Clay ([09:57])
On Regime Change Realities
“We are essentially…trying to midwife a coup into existence. We are trying to bring about a coup in Iran. That is what this air campaign ultimately is.”
— Buck ([42:32])
On Israel’s Spirit
“What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light…They went out to curse and they ended up blessing.”
— Yael Eckstein ([30:51])
On Personal Stakes in Israel
“My 19-year-old daughter is on the border of Gaza…she said, ‘mommy, of course I’m scared, but I believe what I’m doing is meaningful.’”
— Yael Eckstein ([32:48])
This episode offers a robust, multi-faceted picture of the current geopolitical flashpoints, with special emphasis on how warfare is evolving and why the outcome in Iran matters far beyond its borders. The hosts blend strategy, anecdote, and humor as they tackle the serious challenges of regime change and international alliances, punctuated by on-the-ground insights from Israel. The hour is as much about the moral and human stakes as it is about policy, strategy, and electoral consequences.