Hour 1 - Corralling the Crazy

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - Corralling the Crazy
Date: November 6, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton

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Episode Overview

The first hour of this episode sees Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dissecting the aftermath of recent elections, government shutdown drama, airline disruptions, and the perennial debate over the Senate filibuster. They bring their typical mix of political analysis, sharp wit, and crowd interaction—plus a side of matchmaking. Throughout, Clay and Buck focus on how political mechanics, voter behaviors, and media narratives are shaping the national conversation, especially from a conservative perspective.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Election Aftermath and National Mood

[02:00-04:00]

• Clay and Buck react to the recent election results in New York, Virginia, and New Jersey, noting Republican disappointments but urging resilience.
• Buck frames 2025 as “one of the best years overall… in terms of policy achievement, direction of a presidency that I can remember. The economy is booming.”
• Still, significant problems loom: inflation, affordability, and a fractured political climate.

Government Shutdown and Air Traffic Chaos

[04:00-07:00]

• The ongoing shutdown is impacting essential workers, especially air traffic controllers. Buck raises the stakes:

  "Air traffic control is really important... we want air traffic controllers to be paid." — Buck ([04:58])

• Clay shares news of a 10% reduction in flight capacity at 40 busy airports due to staffing shortages, reminding listeners to expect travel chaos.
• Buck references the deadly 1977 Tenerife disaster to underscore the seriousness of underfunded air traffic control and lays blame at the feet of political brinkmanship.

The Senate Filibuster Debate

[07:22-14:00]

• The shutdown prompts fresh debate over the filibuster, with Trump (via audio) pressing Republicans to end it:

  “I think that if we got rid of the filibuster, we would approve so many good things… I have no doubt in my mind, get rid of it and the Republicans should do it. But they have a number of Republicans that don’t agree.” — Trump ([09:28])

• Clay and Buck agree:
  • Abolishing the filibuster could backfire by enabling Democrats to enact radical changes (statehood for D.C./Puerto Rico, court-packing) if they regain power.
  • Clay:

    “You have to be very careful adjusting long precedent for expedient current events.” ([12:31])

• Buck likens it to “nuclear deterrence,” cautioning against firing the first shot.

Voter Blame and Media Narratives

[13:21-14:09]

• Buck and Clay highlight the complexity of government shutdown blame—many Americans, they argue, incorrectly fault Republicans due to misleading media or partisan messaging.

Offbeat: Statehood & “Corralling the Crazy”

[14:07-15:49]

• Jokingly, they riff on Trumpian ideas of seizing Greenland or the Panama Canal if procedural hurdles end, lampooning the potential for both sides to use power for wild policy swings.

Listener Engagement & The “Love Connection”

[20:30-22:00, 40:05-42:36]

• The show recaps an ongoing (tongue-in-cheek) “love connection” sparked by conservative listeners debating the 19th amendment (women’s right to vote).
• Caller “V” from Raleigh expresses interest in “Allison” from LA, who previously argued women shouldn’t have the vote because “most of them are just too emotional.” ([40:33])
• Allison confirms she is single and responds to V:

  “Yes, I am single and I appreciate what the gentleman said.” – Allison ([41:36])

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• On the Economy & Policy:

  “I'm not going to get all saccharine here… but I do think this is one of the best years overall, in terms of policy achievement, direction of a presidency that I can remember. The economy is booming.”
  — Buck Sexton ([03:00])

• On Shutdown Disruption:

  "I would encourage all of you out there to make sure that you are closely following if you're traveling... this is going to be a mess, Buck."
  — Clay Travis ([06:04])

• On Filibuster Debate:

  “Do you destroy your whole relationship with them [Republicans opposed to ending the filibuster] or not? I'd be close to losing it, but probably not.”
  — Donald Trump ([09:56], audio clip)

  “The reason why the filibuster makes sense in my opinion, is it stops crazy, exaggerated movement.”
  — Clay Travis ([11:36])

• Political Chess Moves:

  "It's a little bit like nuclear deterrence right now. Do you really want to fire first?"
  — Buck Sexton ([10:45])

  “Trump maybe crowns himself king for life. I don’t know. Libs cry.”
  — Buck Sexton, joking ([14:33])

On Voter Turnout & GOP Challenges

[24:07-31:55]

• Buck notes that despite strong Trump support, off-year GOP turnout lags:

  “Their base is more reliably going to turn out in elections like 25 off year elections in general.” — Clay Travis ([24:18])

• Clay likens the challenge to sports:

  “Trump people are football fans. They show up for the big event. They want to be a part of something much larger than themselves…”
  — Clay Travis ([28:51])

• Buck on Trump’s magnetism:

  “Trump specifically has brought… cultural markers—the rallies, the hats, the dance…” ([31:42])

On the "Love Connection"

“Yes, I am single and I appreciate what the gentleman said. So anyway, I guess that's it. Thanks.”
— Allison, LA ([41:36])

“We got a love connection going here. We got a single guy, we got a single gal… They’re rooted together in… their desire to repeal the amendment that allows women to vote.”
— Buck Sexton ([41:44])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:00] – Opening on election results, current state of GOP
• [04:00] – Shutdown, air traffic controller issues and flight chaos explained
• [06:04] – Clay details travel and flight reduction impacts
• [09:28] – Donald Trump audio, filibuster debate
• [10:39] – Hosts weigh merits/risks of ending filibuster
• [13:21] – Blame game: which party caused the shutdown?
• [14:07] – Wild musings on statehood, “seizing” territories
• [20:30-22:00] – Listener “V” pines for “Allison” in fun segment
• [24:07] – Analyses of turnout, “football fan” analogy for Trump voters
• [31:55] – Trump as a movement; cultural impact
• [35:38] – Voting patterns, jokes about NYC election returns
• [40:05-42:36] – The “Love Connection” segment: Allison responds, good-humored banter

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Tone & Language

• The episode balances serious political analysis with jokes, sports analogies, and satirical riffing. The hosts are direct, opinionated, and often tongue-in-cheek—especially around hot-button debates (e.g., the filibuster) or recurring show gags (the love connection between listeners).

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Memorable Moments

• Buck's “nuclear deterrence” analogy for the filibuster ([10:45])
• Clay’s sports analogy vividly describing the GOP turnout problem ([28:51])
• The extended riff on hypothetical MAGA statehood plans (Greenland, Panama Canal, etc.) ([14:07])
• The playful caller matchmaking between V and Allison—rooted in controversial humor ([41:36])

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This hour offers a prime sample of Clay & Buck’s signature blend: timely political coverage, skepticism of Democratic strategy, warnings about procedural overreach, and a steady stream of banter. If you missed it, you’ll be up to speed on the post-election narrative, why air travel is about to get even more chaotic, the risks of killing the filibuster (from a conservative POV), and—you never know—maybe even witness the birth of a right-wing radio romance.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Guest or Caller]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

With their soon to be mayor.

[Buck Sexton]

But it's going to be all right, as we said. Also Virginia, New Jersey, close, but no cigar in New Jersey. Virginia, a blowout, but it's okay. It's okay. We move onward, we move forward. Remember, Trump is still the president. We are still a majority in the House and the Senate, and it has been. We are in November. We're getting close to when I can say this, and I'm not going to be all sappy about it, Clay. I'm not going to get all saccharine here on the air, but I do think this is one of the best years overall, overall, in terms of policy achievement, direction of a presidency that I can remember. The economy is booming. There are problems and we should address those. There are affordability issues. There are inflation, really lingering inflation issues. Right. It's not that inflation keeps going up. It's that prices rocketed up. Thank you, Biden. And as Clay has said many times, it's true, once they go up, it's very hard for them to come down for a whole bunch of reasons. So they tend to continue to go up over time. So we've got that to work, work through, and we'll discuss it. We've also, Clay, still got a shutdown happening, which I have to say the shutdown better end soon. They better shut that down because people are going to really get frustrated with some of what's going on here. The lack of air traffic controllers able to come on the job. They're not getting paid. And I can understand this. You're doing a critical job as an air traffic controller. It is a critical job, by the way. It's one of those things where you want really good professional air traffic controllers. No question about it. You know, Clay, the biggest airline disaster in history in terms of casualties, not including 9, 11 was a terrorist attack. But the biggest airline disaster in history was really an air traffic control issue. And it was on, I want to say, Tenerife island, you know, one of those, like, islands in the, in Atlantic. And it was two jets that one was taking off and one was taxiing.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, no.

[Buck Sexton]

And they. And they hit each other. My point being that was a long time ago. But if you check that one out, producer Greg, do a quick one, a quick number on that one, because it was horrible. It was hundreds and hundreds of people lost their lives in it. Air traffic control is really important, is my point. And we want air traffic controllers to be paid. Yes, sir.

[Clay Travis]

And we've got to cut on that because they have announced that we are going to have a 10% reduction in scheduled flight capacity and at 40 different high traffic markets. This is yesterday, Sean Duffy letting us know that that is now out. And so I would encourage all of you out there to make sure that you are closely following if you're traveling. I'm traveling tomorrow. I'm already presuming that getting out of New York City is going to be a disaster, Buck, But Sean Duffy, Transportation secretary here, he is talking about it. I anticipate there'll be additional disruptions, there'll be frustration. We are working with the airlines, they're going to work with passengers. But in end, our sole role is to make sure that we keep this airspace as safe as possible. The administrator is going to talk about all of the, the tools we're going to deploy. One of them though is going to be that there is going to be a 10% reduction in capacity at 40 of our locations. The administrator is going to tell you that it's been, this is data based. This is not based on what airline travels, has more flights out of what location. This is about where is the pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure. I mean, this is going to be a mess, Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

It is going to be a mess. By the way, just as a fact update here. Yeah, I was right. It was Tenerife and Clay. This was back in 1977, 583 fatalities, worst airline disaster, not including 9 11, which was man made terrorism, but worst airline disaster in history and it was taxiing on the Runway. My point being air traffic control, we all want them to be staffed, paid and really good. And one problem we've already seen, and this is from a lot of what Secretary Duffy has been saying about this, is that the air traffic control system is really outdated. It needs to be fixed in general. So now we're taking an outdated system, putting additional strain on it because of personnel, because Chuck Schumer doesn't want the left wing base of his party to be able to mount the challenge against him. I mean, when you start to add up what's going on here, it is gross. Oh, by the way, Nancy Pelosi is not running. Speaking about a great year in American politics. That's official too. She's out at 85 years young. So there you go.

[Clay Travis]

That's at least one positive. Trump has reacted to that already in typical Trumpian fashion. And look, I, I think this air traffic issue is going to start to get people angry on a level that maybe they haven't been before, if that makes sense. I mean, we're going to be talking about this impacting everybody. We shared and talked about the video of Houston, which I'm told is already always has a major issue there. But three and a half hours, four hours for tsa. I bet a lot of you, if you see a line that long, just want to turn around and go back home. And I think the anger over this is going to grow. Now, there have been some reports, Buck, that Democrats were emboldened by their wins in Virginia and in New Jersey and in New York City and have decided to be more aggressive in demanding some sort of changes. Trump obviously has said so let's go ahead and end the filibuster, because the reason why we have this shutdown right now is we have to get to 60 votes. And right now I don't believe we've gotten past 56, I think, or 57. There are at least three or four more Democrats who need to vote to open back up the government. We'll see whether the final results coming down will get things fixed. My bet would be that we would have some sort of resolution by early next week. I don't know where you are on this, but that could grow faster. And here trump on cut 30, buck to build on that, is super angry about the shutdowns, it appears, and he wants drastic action. There were reports that he talked to the Senate Republicans yesterday and said it's time to end the filibuster. This has been an ongoing debate for basically as long as I can remember. Politics existing here is cut 30 Trump saying once and for all, let's end the filibuster.

[Guest or Caller]

I think that if we got rid of the filibuster, we would approve so many good things, common sense things, wonderful things, that it would be hard to beat us if we don't. It's always going to be a slog. So I do say this. I would say absolutely without question. I have no doubt in my mind, get rid of it and the Republicans should do it. But they have a number of Republicans that don't agree. And you know what? It's a question. Do I want to lose my relationship with those Republicans that have been very good to me for a long period of time that voted against the crooked Democrats on impeachment and everything else? Do I want to lose them over it? I think it's a very important point. Do you ever have people that are wrong, but you can't convince them? So do you destroy your whole relationship with them or not? I'd be close to losing it, but probably not.

[Clay Travis]

That's really Funny working through all that. Buck, my general position on the filibuster, we talked about it earlier. I don't want Democrats to suddenly be able to add Puerto rico and Washington, D.C. if they have 50 votes plus the, plus the president. I don't want them to be able to expand the Supreme Court. I get the frustration. I personally am not in favor of ending the filibuster. I don't know what your take is because eventually it ends up blowing up on you.

[Buck Sexton]

This is the. I wish I could take the counterpoint to you because it's more fun to argue with you. But on this one we would. Our team Trump would use it to try to push policies that then people can judge the effectiveness of or not. And his thing is, I would do such good things that the American people would be so in favor of Democrats once the filibuster is gone, will do exactly what you're talking about, which is permanently stack the deck so you will have no more Trump like administrations, you will have no more Republican administrations. And that then becomes the challenge. Now, people might say they're going to do that anyway when they have a majority that's fair, but, you know, it's a little bit like nuclear deterrence right now. Right? I mean, do you really want to fire first? I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

They're going to be more diabolical. I think they can do things that are more detrimental. And I just named three. Imagine what the impact would be if Puerto Rico becomes a state and they get two Democrats. Washington D.C. becomes a state and they get two Democrats and they decide, hey, instead of having nine Supreme Court justices, we should have 13 and the new Democrat appointed. The new Democrat president appoints suddenly four Supreme Court justices and. And everything changes. The reason why the filibuster makes sense in my opinion, is it stops crazy, exaggerated movement. Sometimes the crazy, exaggerated movement can be in your favor. Sometimes it's going to be on the other side. And honestly, this already kind of blew up on Democrats with the Supreme Court. As One thing Mitch McConnell got right was they essentially eliminated the filibuster for Supreme Court justices and when they did it to allow the justices to get through with just a majority vote, that was what McConnell said. And the Democrats certainly have lost out to the Republicans when it comes to justices as passing with a bare majority since they passed that law. So change that law. I think you have to be very careful adjusting long precedent for expedient current events.

[Buck Sexton]

One thing to be reminded of though, is that Clay, the Democrats shot first, so to speak. On that Harry Reid, the Democrats decided and then had to live with the reality when things change. But then the Democrats were claiming that Republicans did it first, of course. So that like we're like, guys, if you do this, we're going to do this. They did it. And then when we did it, they said why are you doing it first?

[Clay Travis]

Well, this is also one of the great challenges of communication in general. Democrats shut down the government, this is their choice. But lots of people out in America believe that Republicans are the ones who shut down the government. So they say, well, Republicans are in control of the House and Senate, but yeah, you got to have 60 votes to be able to move anything. And Democrats are the ones that won't allow things to move. But a lot of Democrat based voters believe that it's actually Republicans to blame on this issue. So yes, they will just lie no matter what. But I think they are more diabolical than Republicans are. And so if you end the filibuster, then there will be, I think worse results for Republicans ahead than any benefit you get in the short term.

[Buck Sexton]

To be fair, Trump, let's say he ends the filibuster, obviously it would be the Senate. But if he says let's do this guys, and they go along with it, we seize Greenland, they're not going to make a peep. We say Greenland is now a state, we fill it with maga. You know, we tell all we, we, we have a like a, all hands on deck. MAGA from I got a bunch of New Yorkers that would probably move there right now who are Republicans.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And you know, I mean we could stack the deck too. We, we grab Greenland. What was the other one he's thinking about? We don't want Canada too many Panama Canal. We take Panama Canal, we seize the Panama Canal. Trump maybe crowns himself king for life. I don't know. Libs cry.

[Clay Travis]

Here's a fun question, here's a fun question for you. Building on that. How many different seizure of territory plans do you think there are in the Pentagon right now? And how many different countries like that just war, you know, sort of war game. Like if Hegseth wanted to is there a America seizes? I think certainly there is. Greenland, Iceland, Canada.

[Buck Sexton]

We invaded Grenada.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, so this is like, you know.

[Clay Travis]

Invading a meeting of the Rotary Club.

[Buck Sexton]

Down the street or something. I mean this is like we invaded Grenada. So I'm sure we got plans to.

[Clay Travis]

Do all these things. So how many countries do you think we have planned? Venezuela for sure. Like there's some where it's called, you know, right now, sociopolitical flashpoints. Defend Taiwan. I'm sure all that's game planned out. I would like to know the most unexpected country that we have plans. If we had to take it over currently at the Pentagon, that would be amazing.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton.

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Show.

[Clay Travis]

Remember yesterday when we closed up the shop by one of our listeners in LA calling in and saying women shouldn't have the right to vote. That was after another listener on the other side of the country. If I remember, Bonnie from South Carolina said she wanted to apologize to the country for women and the decisions they made in the 2025 election. Um, here is a podcast listener, V. I don't know if that's a man or a woman. Raleigh, North Carolina, reacting to Allison in LA. That is Cece.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, this is V from Raleigh Station 106.1. I was just wondering if that chick in the third arrow that said the 19 should be repealed, if is she single? Because I could use a smart woman like that in my life. Truly just wondered.

[Clay Travis]

All right, there you go. Love connection here.

[Buck Sexton]

I didn't know that he was going to be kicking the gasoline canister over on the fire with that one, but I like where his head's at.

[Clay Travis]

V is in Raleigh, North Carolina, if you're listening right now, Allison in la. He likes the cut of your jib and he needs a woman. So maybe we can bring bring joy to the world. There you go. So starting off the show early with the love connection here, Buck, you never. You never know what you might get if you didn't hear Allison. Maybe we can pull Allison and. And bring these two together before the show is out.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

I think the big question, and this is going to be the only question for the next year, is to what extent do Trump voters who are non traditional voters show up in 2026? Because there are more Trump supporters in the country than there are Democrat supporters. That's what the 2024 election showed us. But the people who hate Trump, they show up for everything. They show up for the dog catcher election, they show up for school board, they show it doesn't even matter. And so their base is more reliably going to turn out in, in elections like 25 off year elections in general. So how good are the candidates? Well, yes, I don't think we talked about this yesterday. I asked you this off air, for instance. I think you and I would agree that Glenn Youngkin is about as good of a candidate as the Republicans could have. In Virginia he wasn't allowed to run for reelection because in Virginia you only get one term now they can be non consecutive. So he could come back and run again in four years. The guy he beat, Terry McAuliffe, was trying to do just that. What would the results have been if Glenn Youngkin had been on the ballot in 25 win some seniors loses by what, 15? What would the difference have been?

[Buck Sexton]

So, so Youngkin, this is the way I see it, first of all, that the trend was the friend of Democrats in this one overall in Virginia, because Trump won Virginia, Democrats are ticked off, as I mentioned, a lot of the Northern Virginia suburbs. And really we're talking like Arlington, Fairfax. It's where all the government employees who don't live in D.C. live. They live inside the Beltway. So some of them are in Maryland too, you know, Bethesda, et cetera. But obviously There was no big Maryland election that we were focused on. So you have that, and they were ticked off about the shutdown, but also because they've had a Republican governor and they're angry about that because they don't like sanity.

[Clay Travis]

They want.

[Buck Sexton]

They want insanity. I think that the other issue, though, was winsome Sears. She was really pounding this issue of transgenders in the, you know, women's bathrooms, that kind of stuff. And that didn't seem like it was landing with the electorate this time around. But when Newsom ran, I mean, not Newsom, sorry, Youngkin ran. Whoa. Both tall, handsome, angular jaws. Easy to get them confused. But when Youngkin was running, remember, there was a lot of anger about the school shutdowns that Democrats had. And Youngkin was kind of a sane, you know, fleece vest dad, like, person. He'd be like, we're going to open up the schools. We're not going to do that crazy stuff again. So he tapped into something that was powerful in that moment. I don't think the Sears campaign was able to tap into anything effectively. Obviously, we agree with the sentiment on the transgender issue, but that wasn't price of electricity, government shutdown, anti Trumpism. These were much bigger. And cost of living. These were much bigger things.

[Clay Travis]

This time around, 600,000 Trump voters did not show up in Virginia.

[Buck Sexton]

What do you think that is? If you're one of those Trump voters, what are you. What are you thinking? Because this just makes it harder for Trump.

[Clay Travis]

I think it is the question, the analogy that I would make.

[Buck Sexton]

Can I just put out a quick ask while you're before your analogy? If you voted, if you voted for Trump and you live in Virginia and you not voted.

[Clay Travis]

Or New Jersey. Or in Jersey.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you.

[Clay Travis]

Or in Jersey, too, if you vote.

[Buck Sexton]

If you live in either of the states, by the way, I don't think we're going to get a single call, because I think everyone who listens to this show who voted, voted again. I really believe that. But if you voted. So now, now we're going to get people out.

[Clay Travis]

No, if you're in New Jersey or Virginia, you voted Trump last year, but you didn't show up to vote this year. Why?

[Buck Sexton]

Why? Yes, I want to know why. Call in and tell us why. And by the way, if it's, you know, you were worried your pizza was going to get cold and the kid let us know that. But if there was some other reason, I want to know that, too.

[Clay Travis]

Let me. Let me give you my analogy, and I'll go into the world of Sports to explain it for those of us out there who are awesome college football fans. If you go to a college football stadium this Saturday for the football game, there will be 100,000 people, 80,000, 75,000 people that show up for the football game. If you go in a couple of months for a basketball game, there might be 8 or 9,000. If you go for the next time to go watch a women's softball game or a men's baseball game, there might be a thousand people there. Buck. My analogy is Trump people are football fans. They show up for the big event. They want to be a part of something much larger than themselves. They care about the thing that everybody cares about, which is the presidential election. Democrats have more die hard fans that are going to show up for the football game, all the way down to the gymnastic competition. Their die hards are more die hard across the entire universe of voting. And football brings in a lot of guys, a lot of gals too, who otherwise don't care that much about sports. But the event is so big, they feel compelled to be a part of it. And that is what Trump has mobilized. But the mobilization only works. Another analogy would be, you know, there's 50 million people, Buck, who watch the AFC or NFC championship game. That's a huge amount of crowd. That's the final four teams that are playing for to win the super bowl. But then 100 million people show up and watch the Super Bowl. So you're a fan enough not to watch the final four, but a fan that wants to watch the huge final event. People want to be a part of the biggest thing. And Trump has more people who like him who want to be a part of the biggest thing. That would be my analogy. This is what I saw ties in.

[Buck Sexton]

With voting with Zoron. Again, analyzing the way that you talk about sports. If I'm, if I'm analyzing the other team's offense here, you want to know what they're doing well, also what their weaknesses are. Right? You have to know both of those things. Zoran created a culture around his candidacy. Trump has done that. And he's the first Republican to do that as a president in my lifetime. And this is why people, the only person that really did that before him on the Republican side in living memory, would be Reagan. There was a. Reagan was a movement as well as a president. Trump is a movement as well as a president. And I would even argue, I mean, Reagan, there was a lot of cultural implications too. But Trump specifically has brought, I mean, whether it was the rallies, the Hats, the dance. I mean, you think about all these cultural markers now, McClay, anywhere in the world. I can, I can, you know, I mean, this happened in Taiwan a couple of times.

[Clay Travis]

I just do a couple of words.

[Buck Sexton]

Of like, Trump, I'm like, probably love Taipei, Safest city. The people of Taiwan love it. Like, they all know right away he is such a larger than life character. But also, people want to be a part of it. It makes them feel a part. Voting for George W. Bush was like, well, I can't vote for the Communists, so here I am.

[Clay Travis]

Or there's no, like, Mitt Romney was maybe the coincidence.

[Buck Sexton]

Mitt Romney even more so.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Mitt Romney was like, well, I guess we got to have Lumberg in charge, because otherwise the factory will burn down. Like that was. You know how that was going.

[Clay Travis]

I do think that you're right about that. And this is why, you guys, I'm on record for this for several years now. As soon as the midterms are over, you're going to hear, Trump's a king, Trump is Hitler, Trump is a fascist, writ large over and over again. As soon as the midterms are over, the pivot is going to make your head spin. They're going to say, Republicans will never be able to replicate the turnout that they got from President Trump. He is a uniquely gifted political candidate the likes of which we will never see again, and MAGA is going to die with him. That's going to be the argument. And it will remain to be seen whether that's true or not based on what we see in 28. But I like this question that we put out there. Virginia, New Jersey, if you voted for Trump and did not show up, and again, there's a lot of y', all. 600,000 Trump voters didn't show up in New Jersey. 600,000 Trump voters didn'T show up in Virginia. To reiterate what we said yesterday, Trump got more votes for president in Virginia and New Jersey than the winning gubernatorial candidates got on Tuesday night. Think about that for a minute. Now, turnout was obviously up higher for a presidential election, but there were enough people in Virginia who voted Trump, who, if they had all showed up, then the Republican governors would have won in both New Jersey and in Virginia, because that's the numbers that Trump put up. And I'm just curious. The question is, why did you not show up? Why would you take the time and be committed in the presidential. Maybe it's just a lot of people don't think state matters that much. You know, they don't notice who the governor is. They don't think.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, we know in New York that. That Slio would have won if you hadn't suppressed all this. Leewa vote. That's on. That's on you, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

That was what, 7.1%? He would have been at 50.1%. I cost him 43% of the new York electorate.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, it's funny, I actually, I had. I had dinner with a friend of mine last night who's a former who's career nypd, and he actually knows Broad Channel Island. We had a laugh about this. He knows Broad Channel Island. And. And I was like. Which just. I'm bringing it up because that was. If you went to bed Tuesday night, that was the single. There were three colors for the map for Cuomo, Mamdani, Sliwa. There was not a color for Sliwa winning anywhere on the entire. Because Cuomo, even Staten Island. I mean, some of the places that would have gone red went Cuomo overall. But there was one little island that. It was Broad Channel island, which is near Far Rockaway. And then it flipped over. But I asked him, because I said, I said, you know, you're my pd. I was like, let me guess. Broad Channel island full of, like, FDNY and NYPD guys, right? And he said, oh, yeah, I lived.

[Clay Travis]

There for four years.

[Buck Sexton]

That place is. That place is basically a. A haven for cops and firefighters who. I was like, well, yeah, of course. That's where. But sleep. It didn't even win that island, Clay. So that was. It was a rough night. It was a rough night.

[Clay Travis]

At what point in the returns was it 30 seconds after they started? Did the Curtis Leewa camp say, yeah, the math. Not going to math, you know, like. Like, how quickly did the numbers. Like, how long? Because I'm sure if you worked as hard as Curtis Lewa did, he went to bed the night before the election thinking, maybe lightning will strike. Maybe I will win.

[Buck Sexton]

We have 30 seconds. We have some from our audience, breaking news that we're going to get back to here. We have. We have audience, to be clear audience, breaking news that we will share with everybody. I don't. This is not like on the news tickers everywhere. This is for our family. We have some breaking news that we will share, which Clay we can get to if everyone stays with us when we come back.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, that's a hell of a tease. You know what else is a tease? This is going to make people nervous. Seven weeks from today is Christmas. Seven weeks from today. Oh, there's guys breaking out in a cold sweat already. And then you got Valentine's Day coming. You poor bastards. Seven weeks from today is Christmas. Best Christmas gift, of course. Sentimental ones. Who is the most sentimental person you know? Probably me. And right now you can get Legacy Box make sure that your family memories are preserved forever by digitally transferring all your old media into digital files. They'll return everything after it. I've been to their headquarters in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Back on Christmas morning, do you remember producer Ali brought in Pet News on her VHS tape at Fox News. For those of you who remember, this was the episode from August 15, 1998. Ah, 1998. The greatest year in American history. One of them. I'm not kidding. Late 90s. Amazing. But it's all preserved on VHS tapes. And if you want to make sure that your VHS tapes don't disintegrate into oblivion, you need to digitize them. These things are not made to last forever. That's what Legacy Boxes does. And right now, seven weeks from Christmas, you can take access to their Black Friday sale. That's right, it's starting already. 66% off regular pricing. $9 to preserve and share your precious moments. $9 deal won't last long. Head to legacybox.com clay for early access to the best deals of the year. That's a legacybox.com clay one more time legacybox.com clay sometimes all you can do is laugh and they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang. Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck, you had a tease for us, I believe, but let me play.

[Buck Sexton]

It's important. We have to follow through on the tease. You're not gonna follow through. We might be making a love connection.

[Clay Travis]

I was gonna. Well, I was gonna play it yesterday, the talk back from Allison so that people could realize who our V had reached out for. This is Allison yesterday. V has fallen in love with her in Raleigh, based on this Talk Back. Deedee.

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

Hey, this is Allison from la. I want to second that lady's notion about apologizing for women. I'm conservative, always voted Republican, 24 7, Rush listener. But I have to say they never should have given women the right to vote. It's just most of them are just too emotional.

[Clay Travis]

So V has fallen in love with Allison. Do we have any further update on that? Is there an additional love connection that has been made? Have we heard anything else, team? Have we heard from Allison? Have we heard.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, we have heard from Al that.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, this is.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the whole point.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, Well, I wanted to make sure.

[Buck Sexton]

This is my biggest update for the audience. I'm here just making miracles happen. Play our next one.

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

This is Allison in la. I'm just curious. Can we get rid of the filibuster and then before Trump leaves office, put it back on?

[Clay Travis]

Well, wait, I thought Allison was going to be reacting to V. What happened there? Producer Greg. Oh, okay. Sorry. Well, that was very serious.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that was nice. They played the wrong one. Play the one that we care about.

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And yes, I am single and I appreciate what the gentleman said. So anyway, I guess that's it. Thanks.

[Buck Sexton]

We got it. We got a love connection going here. We got a single guy, we got a single gal. You know what?

[Clay Travis]

They're rooted.

[Buck Sexton]

They're rooted together in clay.

[Clay Travis]

Their.

[Buck Sexton]

Their desire to repeal the amendment that allows women to vote.

[Clay Travis]

Real dream. This is a real dream. I will say, I love that. Allison had already weighed in on the filibuster, too. So if you're. If V was wondering if he was like, what could really make this love connection impossible to avoid? And he was like, but I need to know what Allison thinks about the filibuster.

[Buck Sexton]

What?

[Clay Travis]

V? I mean, I'm just telling you.

[Buck Sexton]

He's ready to propose marriage now. I think they might skip the whole courtship process. I mean, she wants to. She wants to repeal the. The amendment that allows women to vote. She wants to get rid of the filibuster. V. What else do you have to know? I mean, she's very. She's clearly very pro 2A. I mean, I. I think we got on the list here. She's got a MAGA hat or five at home. Home, you're good to go.

[Clay Travis]

LA and Raleigh coming together like oil and water. We will continue to update you on the greatest love story ever told as the program continues. That is Allison responding to V. I would say maybe they could vote on it, but Allison doesn't think she should have.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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