Hour 1 - Correcting the Historic Record

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 1 - Correcting the Historic Record

Release Date: July 25, 2025

In this pivotal episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve deep into the complexities surrounding a landmark Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity, its far-reaching implications for past and present presidents, and the intertwined narratives of Russiagate and the Epstein scandal. The discussion is enriched with insights, historical context, and sharp political analysis, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of these critical issues.

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Supreme Court Ruling on Presidential Immunity

The episode kicks off with Clay Travis addressing a significant Supreme Court decision that has reshaped the landscape of presidential accountability. The ruling, which passed with a 6-3 majority, grants presidents broad immunity from criminal charges related to their official actions while in office.

Clay Travis explains:

"The Supreme Court ruling will apply to every president when it comes to the president having the powers to exercise the prerogative of the presidency without worrying about being charged with criminal-related incidents going forward."
(03:05)

This decision not only protects current President Donald Trump but also extends immunity to former presidents, including Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush. Travis emphasizes the precedent's neutrality, stating it applies irrespective of political affiliation:

"The Supreme Court ruling will apply to every president... whether Democrat or Republican or frankly, Independent or Whig or Tory..."
(06:03)

Trump's Commentary on Obama and Presidential Immunity

A significant portion of the discussion centers on President Trump's recent remarks regarding Obama's potential immunity under the new ruling. Buck Sexton highlights Trump's assertion that Obama "owes him big" due to the same protections:

"Trump said, 'Obama owes me big because he's probably protected by the same ruling.'"
(05:37)

The hosts critique the media's portrayal of Trump's relationship with intelligence agencies, arguing that longstanding biases have fueled narratives like Russiagate.

Russiagate: Debunking the Hoax

Travis and Sexton revisit the Russiagate saga, portraying it as a manufactured narrative intended to undermine Trump's presidency. They reference past media coverage, including a clip from Chris Cuomo in 2018, who aggressively pushed the Russiagate theory:

"Chris Cuomo: Did Russia attack our election? That's what happened. Russia did it."
(12:09)

Clay Travis counters this by labeling Russiagate as a "hoax," citing Tulsi Gabbard's revelations about intelligence agencies' role in fabricating the scandal:

"CNN cut away from Tulsi Gabbard when she was laying out the fact that the intelligence agencies manufactured this great Russia hoax..."
(12:41)

Epstein Files and Civil Settlements

Shifting focus, Travis and Sexton explore the Epstein files, highlighting the extensive civil settlements made to Epstein's victims. Despite the high-profile nature of the case, they note that substantial payouts—over $400 million—have been made to victims, which have largely gone unnoticed in mainstream media.

Clay Travis states:

"They paid out $121 million to between 135 and 150 people who alleged that they had been sexually abused by Epstein... JP Morgan Chase settled a class action lawsuit for $290 million and Deutsche Bank settled one for $75 million."
(28:00)

The hosts argue that the lack of media attention on these settlements suggests a limited scope for further criminal charges against Epstein's associates, countering narratives that suggest a broader conspiracy.

Economic Commentary: A Booming Economy Amidst Political Attacks

A standout segment of the episode is the discussion on the current state of the U.S. economy. Travis underscores the robust performance, citing record highs in the stock market and low inflation rates as indicators of successful economic policies under Trump's administration.

"The economy is actually roaring. We are setting record highs almost on a daily basis in the Dow Jones and in the S&P 500."
(22:51)

He contrasts this positive economic outlook with Democratic attempts to pivot to the Epstein scandal as a means to attack Trump, highlighting the Democrats' tactical shift from economic criticisms to personal scandals.

Crime and Border Security: Success Under Scrutiny

Continuing the economic narrative, the hosts discuss declining crime rates and effective border security measures, reinforcing Trump's administration's achievements in these areas. Travis notes the importance of maintaining these successes against ongoing media skepticism.

"They're not going after him on the economy because it's good, getting better. They're not going after him on the border because he shut it down and deportations are popular..."
(31:34)

Listener Engagement and Call-In Segment

The episode features active listener participation, with Clay addressing questions about the extent of presidential immunity. A caller from Milwaukee poses a thought-provoking legal question regarding the application of immunity to treasonous acts:

"Does that immunity also include treasonous acts where the person making those decisions is acting against the best interest of the United States at the time?"
(46:46)

Clay Travis responds by emphasizing the high burden of proof required to charge a president under the new ruling, suggesting that demonstrating malintent would be exceptionally challenging.

Conclusion: Correcting the Historical Narrative

In wrapping up the episode, Travis reiterates the importance of understanding and correcting the historical record concerning presidential actions and accountability. He commends Trump for his straightforward acknowledgment of Obama's immunity and criticizes the media and Democratic strategies aimed at diverting attention from their inability to challenge Trump's successes.

"This is now the way that Democrats are attacking Trump. They're not going after him on the economy... they are trying to focus on the Epstein situation."
(43:56)

Travis concludes by affirming the significance of the Supreme Court decision and its implications for future presidencies, urging listeners to recognize the broader impact of these legal precedents.

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Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis: "The Supreme Court ruling will apply to every president when it comes to the president having the powers to exercise the prerogative of the presidency without worrying about being charged with criminal-related incidents going forward."
  (03:05)

• Donald Trump: "Obama owes me big because he's probably protected by the same ruling."
  (05:30)

• Chris Cuomo: "The leader of the free world sided with the man who directly ordered a sophisticated attack on America, America's electoral system."
  (12:41)

• Clay Travis: "Democrats have now pivoted from, hey, the big beautiful bill gave too much money to billionaires and you can't trust Trump on the economy."
  (45:02)

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This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a thorough examination of key political arenas, challenging prevailing narratives and presenting alternative perspectives grounded in legal interpretations and economic data. Listeners gain valuable insights into the dynamics of presidential power, media influence, and the intersection of law and politics in shaping America's historical record.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Friday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I hope all of you are ready for the weekend and looking forward to hanging out with me as we roll into the weekend with three fun hours. Buck in New York City celebrating his dad's birthday. Happy birthday to Papa Sexton. Also, I meant to say producer Ali's birthday was yesterday and I forgot to mention it on the show. So birthdays abound everywhere. Uh, and we hope you guys are ready to have some fun with us. Trump has hopped onto Air Force One and is now on his way to Scotland to visit several of his properties over there, predominantly golf courses. He addressed the media as he left the White House and made a lot of news after yesterday's show. He also toured the site of the Fed construction that they are spending a couple of billion dollars, $3 billion actually on, and met with Jerome Powell face to face where he made the case that they needed to lower the interest rates. Which, by the way, Trump is correct about. We will dive into all of that. But we began with something that we told you early this week, and I didn't hear very many other people out there saying it. But when a lot of people were saying, oh, Obama's gonna be arrested. Oh, he's gonna be perp walked. We've got the 2016 intelligence briefings that prove Obama committed a crime. I told you, look, the Supreme Court ruling that said Trump had the power as president to act as he did in 2020 and could not be charged criminally as a result those expansive presidential powers. The Supreme Court held 6, 3 in Trump's favor. We told you that that ruling was likely to come. It now has come. And guess what? It applies to Bill Clinton. It applies to Barack Obama. It applies to George W. Bush, it applies to Donald Trump. Any living president, any current president, any, any future president. And Trump was actually asked about that, given the revelations from Tulsi Gabbard. He said, hey, look, Obama owes me big because he's probably protected by the same ruling. Let me play that cut. Trump just said this a little bit ago. Listen, how do you think that the.

[Donald Trump]

Supreme Court's ruling that benefited you on presidential immunity would apply to former President.

[Clay Travis]

Barack Obama and what you're accusing him of doing?

[Donald Trump]

It probably helps him a lot. Probably helps him a lot, the immunity ruling, but it doesn't help the people around him at all. But it probably helps them a lot. He's, he's done criminal acts, there's no question about it. But he has immunity and it probably helps him. He owes me big. Obama owes me big.

[Clay Travis]

Obama owes me big. That is Trump talking about the, the situation there where Obama's now protected, likely by the larger ruling that the Supreme Court made on presidential privilege. And we told you back when this ruling came down, you may not like it at some point in the future. It reminds me of Mitch McConnell when they changed the filibuster rules for the Supreme Court, saying, hey, you may not like the results and it may happen sooner than you think. There you go. The benefit sometimes of precedent set by the Supreme Court. You think, oh, this is great. And then there's another situation that comes down the road and the precedent is applied evenly, whether Democrat or Republican or frankly, Independent or Whig or Tory or whatever future parties may exist in the years, decades hundreds of years into the future in the United States. The Supreme Court ruling will apply to every president when it comes to the president having the powers to exercise the prerogative of the presidency without worrying about being charged with criminal related incidents going forward. And so I would say in general, this week, if you look at the entirety of the week, has largely been characterized by revelations relating to the 2016 intelligence community's attempt to create the Russiagate fervor and ongoing discussion surrounding the Epstein files and what has been uncovered there. This morning, as part of my prep, as I always do, I read the New York Times. There is a huge multi thousand word piece in the New York Times that goes into the review of all of the Epstein files by the Department of Justice under Trump and the fact that frankly, they haven't been able to find anything and about how frustrated that made Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, who desperately wanted to find people that they could charge based on the information that was inside of those files. And according to that New York Times report, there just isn't anything there, doesn't mean that there might not have been. In the past, 90% of people out there believe that these files should be released. Again, there are challenges because some of these people are victims, but I suspect that they're going to try to release Everything that they can, and there's just not going to be much there. Jelaine Maxwell interviewed yesterday by the Deputy AG to see if she knew anything else. One thing that I think I have not done a good job talking with you guys about from the Epstein perspective, is remember that there were hundreds of millions of dollars paid out to the alleged Epstein victims by his estate by all these other different large investment banks that also had interactions and dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. In other words, people say, well, what happened to all the victims? Well, a lot of those victims came forward, raised their hand, remained anonymous, but said, hey, we are a part of this class action lawsuit alleging that we were mistreated by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and many of those women, they got paid hundreds of millions of dollars by Epstein's estate. It doesn't get talked about very much, but there were hundreds of millions of dollars paid out to those victims of Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell. And I do think that that has kind of slid under the radar and it hasn't gotten that much attention. But people said, well, what happened to all these victims? A lot of them came forward and said, hey, this was what was done to me. And we are filing a class action lawsuit civilly seeking damages from Jeffrey Epstein's estate in the wake of his death. And the estate team in New York, maybe you can look out and see if there's a full dollar value. But I know they paid out hundreds of millions of dollars in claims against individuals who purport that they were mistreated. So again, two different scandals to me. And I asked this question, I asked you guys earlier this week, hey, which do you think is the bigger story? Epstein or the Epstein fallout or Russiagate? And overwhelmingly, you guys said Russiagate. And also I gave a third option in that poll. And the third option was, I don't care about any of this, just get my costs down. In other words, I'm just focused on the economy. And it actually outrated the Epstein drama as well. In other words, the majority of you said Russia Gates, a really, really big story that was the winner of the poll. Second place was, I don't care about any of this, just get my costs down. And then third was Epstein. But I would say we basically have dueling controversies, for lack of a better way to describe it, with the Russia Gate, which I believe is actually a huge story. The Russiagate hoax and then also the fallout of Epstein, all taking place simultaneously. And of course, Democrats are saying, well, this is just Trump's desire to distract from the Epstein related cases. But I actually don't think that's true. I think that what happened with Russia has been an obsession of Trump's for a long time. And in particular, I wanted to play some of this because these are flashbacks and I know some of you remember it, but remember what happened the first time Trump met with Putin and what the reaction was as the media had bought into the idea that Trump was a Manchurian candidate. I want to play a couple of these cuts. Here's cut seven. Chris Cuomo, back when he was still on CNN screaming about President Trump and the Russia hoax to his audience. This was in 2018. Some of you will remember it. This is what Trump 1.0 was dealing with. All lies. Cut 7.

[Chris Cuomo]

The world witnessed a betrayal the likes of which we've never seen. America's president sided with its enemy. Today, shock has turned to a national shunning as America finds unity in President Trump's perfidy. It was the simplest of all questions regarding Russia's attacks on our democracy. Did it happen?

[Donald Trump]

So I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.

[Chris Cuomo]

That was the President of the United States answer. A kick in the groin to his counterintelligence men and women to his country, and most to the truth with the world watching. The leader of the free world sided with the man who directly ordered a sophisticated attack on America, America's electoral system. End of discussion. That's what happened. Russia did it.

[Clay Travis]

All. That's false. And remember, CNN cut away from Tulsi Gabbard when she was laying out the fact that the intelligence agencies manufactured this great Russia hoax as a way to delegitimize the Trump presidency. They're still not allowing their audience to understand what actually happened. And again, this is another flashback. I think it's important to rem the unbelievable histrionics that were at play here. Cut 8. Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said it was the most tragic day in the history of the presidency when Trump said, hey, I'm not really convinced that Russia was rigging our election. Cut 8.

[Hannah Jewell]

This is probably the most tragic day in the history of the presidency.

[Chris Cuomo]

So what do we do now? I mean, what is the rule book for when a president betrays his own country and sides with an enemy?

[Hannah Jewell]

So I think it's up to the American people to make clear that we will not tolerate a president who does not defend the United States of America. Probably the worst cyber attack against the United States to undermine our election system. These are bad people. They're bad guys. They're the enemy. They're the adversary.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, the most tragic day in the history of the presidency. Leon Panetta, remember a thing called Ford's Theater? John Wilkes Booth shooting Abraham Lincoln, the back of the head. Feels like a pretty tragic day for the presidency. FDR dies in office in the middle of World War II, near the end of World War II. Feels like a pretty tragic day in the history of the presidency. There it's how about when the, how about when the British burned down the White House? Feels like kind of a tragic day in the history of the presidency. The degree of lying that was built around this Russian disinformation campaign. Russia could have never dreamed of having America's own institutions turn on America to the degree that it did to try to tear down Donald Trump. And so I don't blame Trump, who spent four years basically screaming into the wind, there's nothing to this. I won. And they just can't figure out how Hillary lost. And now, to her credit, Tulsi Gabbard lays out in a calculated fashion exactly what went on inside of the intelligence agencies and demonstrates that this Russia hoax happened. Now, a lot of you out there are throwing up your hands and saying, what's going to happen? That's the challenge. And I think to his credit, Trump even acknowledged basically nothing can happen to Obama. I think it's almost impossible to charge him with anything. And I think it's also very hard to charge others because the time has passed to such an extent. Now, I do think leaks of these intelligence documents that the Washington Post and the New York Times, among other, among others, used as their method to win Pulitzer Prizes. And see this idea that this untruth was, in fact, a truth. I do think there should be consequences there. And at an absolute minimum, I think this is very significant because it's correcting the historic record and making people slowly aware of exactly what went on. I will take your calls. You guys can react to all of this. We've got a ton as we roll through the program. No guests scheduled right now. 282-2882. That's 800-282-2882. We can also have some fun if you've got talkbacks and you want to weigh in on anything that happened all week long. We will play some of those as well. In the meantime, uncertainty almost always causes a reaction, particularly in our markets. And right now, there's uncertainty about the value of the dollar, about how much inflation there is going to be. And in times of uncertainty, people sometimes race to hard physical assets like gold. It's been true throughout all the millennium, throughout all the annals of finance. People like the tangible value of gold. Birch Gold can make owning physical gold very easy. They easily convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA with physical gold. They can help you buy gold to store in your name as well to store in your home safe. You can have it physically in your house. Text my name Clay to 989898 and Birchgold will send you a free info kit on gold to find out why it would make sense potentially in your portfolio. For thousands of years people have been holding gold. It may well make sense as it continues to set record highs in your portfolio as well. Why not do the research and find out with an A rating with the Better Business Bureau? Tens of thousands of happy customers take control of your savings today. Text the name Clay to 98-98-98 to get started. That's Clay to 98-9898 to get started today. Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show yesterday. We took a lot of calls. I thought you guys did a great job asking questions. I do think the Russia gate and the Epstein case. Again, we didn't schedule any guests today. Buck is out until Monday. Um, if you guys want to weigh in, you want to ask questions that you think are important on either of those issues, we can dive into them. I'll do my best to explain where we're headed. I give Trump tremendous credit as he got ready to get on the plane to fly to Scotland for basically saying, Obama owes me big, but understanding the implications of the Supreme Court presidential ruling. And it is very funny because so many people out there in left wing media said, this is what happens when you have a dictator. This is how democracies die. This is what fascism looks like. When the Supreme Court came out and said, hey, you can't charge the president with crimes for actions that are directly related to, in their opinion, the presidential office. And we told this program, we said, hey, this is going to apply for everybody. And now if Obama were charged with a crime, the same people who said, this is how democracy dies, this is what fascism looks like, would have to cover Obama as his primary defense in any 2016 charges, saying, Hey, I did this within the province of my presidency and therefore I cannot be prosecuted criminally for what I did. All of the people that told you that the Supreme Court had just laid down like a dog and let Trump scratch their belly, all of them would have to suddenly say, well, actually, you know, Obama is using the Trump precedent to keep himself from serious criminal charges potentially. And that is what we told you on this program would happen and how it would be applied. 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And I do think as I'm reading and getting ready for the show today, and I've looked at all the coverage going on this week, I definitely think that Democrats have pivoted. And I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but Democrats have now pivoted from, hey, the big beautiful bill gave too much money to billionaires and you can't trust Trump on the economy. As I am speaking to you right now about 12:30 on the east coast, the stock market is setting another record high today. And so early on, remember back in April when they said, oh, Liberation Day, the tariffs, they're gonna be a disaster. The economy is actually roaring. We are setting record highs almost on a daily basis in the Dow Jones and in the s and P500. If you listen to us back in April when all the panic happened surrounding the tariffs and you just held on to your stocks, this is pretty crazy. Stocks are up nearly 30% since April. If you had money sitting on the side and you bought more, then you are sitting at the most money that you've ever had in your 401k. Inflation has not gone up. There has not actually been any kind of market increase. There hasn't been a rise in what you're having to pay for goods outside of normal inflation. And this is important because you'll hear a lot of people say, well, prices are still going up. Yeah, sadly, inflation is a reality and we want to manage it as best we can. If we can keep it around 2% a year, that is a manageable aspect of inflation. So prices, by and large, never go back. That is deflation, which almost never occurs and actually represents an incredible danger to the country. But we've got so much money coming in on the economy that they have basically stopped completely talking about the economy. And now Democrats, believe it or not, are using Epstein to try to attack Trump. And I just want to point out how incredibly dishonest that is because Democrats had all the Epstein files for the last four years and they did nothing with them. And now they have decided that they're going to because they can't attack him on the economy, because they can't attack him on the border, because they can't attack him on crime. Remember, Trump ran on the economy, border crime, and he has delivered through the first six months on those levels, the likes of which we haven't seen in a very long time. And if you were listening yesterday, we had Bill O'Reilly on it. He said he talked to President Trump yesterday. He felt like President Trump was frustrated because he's delivering on all of his promises. And now Democrats have decided they're going to attack him on Epstein. And they couldn't attack him on tariffs, they couldn't attack him on the economy, they can't attack him on border, on crime. So now they're going back to the Epstein playbook. And it feels so incredibly calculated. And so I want to point this out. We have audio here. This is Trump saying, hey, we may give people out there, taxpayers a rebate because we're making so much money from tariffs. This is cut six. As Trump prepared to leave for Scotland.

[Donald Trump]

Do you think there is the possibility of a rebate to the American public in terms of all of that money? We're thinking about that, actually. We have so much money coming in, we're thinking about a little rebate, but the big thing we want to do is pay down debt, but we're thinking about a rebate. That's a very good time for it. You just made a lot of news. We're thinking about a rebate because we have so much money coming in from tariffs that. Tariffs that. A little rebate for people of a certain income level might be very nice.

[Clay Travis]

Again, Trump looking out for everybody. The economy is firing on all cylinders. The trade deals are all coming together, and so don't make a mistake about what they're trying to do. Democrats are actually trying to focus on the Epstein situation. And by the way, I had the team pull the data producer. Ali pulled it. They paid out $121 million to between 135 and 150 people who alleged that they had been sexually abused by Epstein. Average payout per victim around $800,000, though individual amounts could vary. On top of that, JP Morgan Chase settled a class action lawsuit for 290 million and Deutsche bank settled one for 75 million, with potential payouts up to $5 million per victim in those cases as well. These were often overlapping victims. And again, the exact terms that have been settled have not been discussed. Um, you know, the individuals have not been named. But I do think this is a big part of the Epstein story because people say, okay, well, what happened to all the victims? If you believe you were a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, you had an opportunity to come forward. He's dead, so he can't go to prison. Jelaine Maxwell is already in prison for 20 years. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been paid out to the individuals who raised their hands and said, I'm a victim. So I understand a lot of people out there who were saying, well, what about all the victims of Jeffrey Epstein? I don't think the media has covered them as much because most of them have wanted to stay private. They have not wanted their names to be broadcast widely. But I bet a lot of you are surprised to hear that. What is that? 121 million, 290 million, 75 million. We're talking about over $400 million in Jeffrey Epstein related dollars being paid out to the victims. Nearly $500 million. Those are staggering sums of money. And again, they have not gotten a lot of attention in the media because most of the victims of Epstein have not been waving their arms saying I want my name out in the public. Those people to a large extent want to go on with their lives. But again, according to These reports, between 135 and 150 people out there who said I was a victim of Epstein. Why is that significant? Well, it does suggest that the court system has actually tried to in some way both criminal, criminally and civilly deal with this situation. And I think the frustration comes because this is what I didn't want to happen with the Russia gate situation. I don't want people out there to be thinking, oh, Obama's gonna get arrested. Oh, Obama's gonna get arrested. I'm trying to be honest with you guys and I give credit to Trump for saying it on the tarmac as he was going on his way to Scotland. Hey, be honest with people. Don't over promise and under deliver. It's one of the number one ways that you can lose your job in a hurry. It doesn't matter what you do if you over promise and you under deliver. I think on the Epstein case there are a lot of people in media and there are a lot of people in politics who came and built a large audience by saying, hey, there's a huge cover up going on. And then they built. Certainly Pam Bondi did, she was a mess on this issue. You don't give out the papers that say Epstein files phase one, which is what they did a few months ago to a lot of influencers and not set the expectation that there is a phase two. And so I think they over promised and now they're under delivering based on what the data actually shows inside of the hundred thousand documents. According to what I was reading this morning, that is makes up the Epstein files, doesn't mean that you want people to get away with crimes. Again, the civil cases, everybody who said they were a victim of Epstein, everybody who waved their arms and said, hey, I want to be either compensated or I want this guy going to jail criminally. Right? There's two different tracks. They made almost $500 million in payments to those people. And so if there were others who could be charged, I think they would be charged. I think they are struggling to find any evidence of that. Now I told you guys, to me I would just release all the files and just say to hell with it because I think that's the easiest thing the Trump administration could do. Just like they did with the MLK files, RFK files, jfk and what do we say? There's unlikely to be major revelations in those files. Because if there had been stuff in there that said, hey, you know who actually killed jfk, do you think they would have been sitting in files inside of the FBI, CIA, relating to the JFK assassination for decades and nobody leaked them, nobody got them out there? If there are the proverbial smoking gun evidence, I think it's likely been gone for a very, very long time. And I think the best thing you could do if you're the Trump team now, as I said, is just put it all out. I know they tried, to their credit, tried to get the grand jury transcript, transcripts released. They wouldn't do it. They went and met with Ghislaine Maxwell. We'll see what she wants to say. She may testify under oath, but again, $500 million in payments, $500 million in payments to everybody who says they were a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and came forward in civil penalties. Almost no discussion, by and large, about that. That would suggest that they told their stories and that there is not anybody else to charge. Now, I understand it's frustrating when you're told something and then when you're over promised and under delivered. I actually think that's the primary story here and I don't want you to miss that. This is now the way that Democrats are attacking Trump. 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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are loaded up with calls. Let me start running through some of them but Eric from Milwaukee has a big question. News Talk 1130 WISN. We love you all up there. What is Eric's question? CC hey Clay, love the show. Want to challenge your legal mind for a second? Does that immunity also include treasonous acts where the person making those decisions is.

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Acting against the best interest of the.

[Clay Travis]

United States at the time. It's a great question. And understanding exactly where presidential powers extend. Here is the defense that Obama would have as Trump was laying out and pointing it out. He would argue that he believed he was acting in the best interests of the country. And so you would have to prove that in a situation like that he knowingly was acting against the best interests of the country and that he knew the information he was citing and relying on was untrue as a part of that process. I just, I think that's almost an impossible standard to reach, which is why I think Trump is right. And by the way, I think that's the right result. You shouldn't have, I mentioned yesterday, take it out of the politics of today. I think personally, the decision to go to war in Iraq over WMDs was the worst presidential decision of the 21st century. Now, some of you out there can argue with me about that. I think Dick Cheney and George W. Bush got that 1 billion percent wrong. I think if you could go back in time and we never went into Iraq and we never spent the trillions of dollars and we never lost the thousands of lives, that would be the right choice. Particularly because Bush was manipulated, I believe, by his intelligence agencies to believe that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which was not true. Okay, I'm going to take a bunch of your calls when we come back. So if you're online, by the way, stick there because I appreciate everybody weighing in. We didn't have any guests Friday. We wanted to have open lines, let you guys weigh in. But I don't think President George W. Bush should be charged with crimes based on the decisions he made surrounding Iraq. They were awful. They were wrong. But he was acting in what he believed was the best interest of the country. Sometimes presidents are just wrong, just like I'm sometimes wrong, just like you guys are sometimes wrong. And oftentimes it seems to me when they are wrong, it's partly based on intelligence agencies getting everything wrong and telling them information that ends up not being correct, which is what I think led to the disastrous war in Iraq. What I believe is the worst decision made by any president in the 21st century. We'll be back. More your calls. Next.

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[Clay Travis]

I'm Christiana Manpour and I've been on the front lines and interviewing world leaders for more than 30 years. And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor to both Presidents Clinton and Biden. We were married for 20 years and divorced for seven. Now we've joined forces on the X Files to make sense of how we ended up with no world order. Listen to Christiana Manpur Presents the X files on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.