Hour 1 - Dark Day on the Court

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 1 – "Dark Day on the Court" (June 30, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this hour, Buck Sexton (solo, with Clay Travis returning later in the week) covers the Supreme Court’s landmark decision on birthright citizenship, expressing concern and frustration at the ruling and its implications for the definition of American citizenship. The episode also touches on recent Supreme Court rulings regarding trans athletes and campaign finance, and features a conversation with Congressman Jim Jordan about legislative paths forward and sanctuary jurisdictions. The episode maintains the show's signature blend of urgent commentary, conservative perspectives, and listener interaction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Upholds Birthright Citizenship (02:02–18:58, 20:53–25:10)

Summary:
The Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, ruled that anyone born on U.S. soil—regardless of parental status—automatically receives American citizenship. Buck contends this will incentivize “birth tourism” and “anchor babies,” calling it “one of the worst decisions in the history of the court.”

Key Details:

• The decision overrides Trump's executive order aimed at restricting birthright citizenship.
• Only diplomats' children are excepted.
• Buck strongly rejects the majority’s reading of the 14th Amendment.

Notable Quotes:

• "There's no way around it, a very rough day in terms of the biggest Supreme Court decision. It went against us... They have come down with this decision that I think is one of the worst in the history of the court, quite honestly." — Buck Sexton (02:09)
• "If a Chinese birth tourist breaks the—it's against the law to do this—shows up here, has a baby... they can come back here at 18, live their whole life in Beijing...they are as American as you and I." (05:49)
• "The court can say it's true. But the court also said that there was a special right to privacy to kill a baby in the womb. The court also ruled in Dred Scott. The court also ruled in Roe v. Wade. They have been wrong in the past, and I think this is wrong." (06:26)
• "A majority of the Supreme Court has decided that to be legally American is so debased that it can in fact be obtained as the proceeds of criminal conspiracy." (08:37)

Critical Analysis:

• Buck argues the Founders never intended for citizenship to be accessed so easily.
• He highlights the incentives this creates for exploiting the system and chain migration.
• Buck urges listeners to reflect on what it means to be truly American, beyond legal status.

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2. Reaction and Legislative Prospects with Rep. Jim Jordan (25:10–36:35)

Summary:
Buck brings on Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) to explore what Congress can do in response to the ruling, as well as broader border and sanctuary jurisdiction issues.

Key Points:

• Jordan describes the ruling as disastrous and advocates for legislation clarifying that the 14th Amendment does not cover children of non-citizens here illegally.
• Buck and Jordan discuss tightening visa laws and more robustly defining temporary protected status and asylum laws.
• The topic of sanctuary jurisdictions is addressed, including pending legislation and upcoming hearings featuring "Angel Moms."

Notable Quotes:

• "It's common sense that if you're here and, you know, unlawfully here in the country and you have a child, that that child should not... be a citizen." — Rep. Jim Jordan (25:10)
• "Sanctuary jurisdictions is the dumbest policy I've ever heard... They let in 10 million under Joe Biden, then they create jurisdictions where it makes it difficult to remove those individuals, even when they commit another crime." (27:58)
• "We do need to tighten things up in a host of ways and make sure that in the event we get another Joe Biden, he can't do what he did, which is allow 10 million people just to come in the country all claiming asylum and saying temporary protected status is not temporary." (26:44)

Action Items Discussed:

• Legislation against sanctuary jurisdictions (29:28, 32:31)
• Funding levers to pressure non-cooperative jurisdictions
• Codification of immigration policies to prevent future executive overreach

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3. Other Significant Supreme Court Rulings (05:00, 21:04)

Summary:
Buck briefly cheers the Supreme Court’s common-sense decision upholding that "biological sex" in Title IX means biological sex, restricting trans athletes from competing outside their birth sex.

Notable Quotes:

• "Today, the court did find that when the law says biological sex and separation thereof under Title nine, it actually is biological sex... That's encouraging." (05:12)
• "If you have a penis and you think you have a vagina, is it actually the latter? The court... goes, you know what, actually turns out? A man is a man, a woman is a woman." (21:04)

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4. Audience Reaction: Calls & Commentary (41:14–46:08)

Summary:
Buck takes calls from listeners, deepening the concern about the Supreme Court's decision—one caller raises the hypothetical of "birth tourism" businesses, another references the risk of “Manchurian Candidate” scenarios.

Notable Quotes:

• "Do you think it would be wise for me to start a business, fly mean and pregnant women from all over the world for a fee?" — Larry, Buffalo, NY (41:32)
  • "I think it would be unwise because I'm pretty sure it's illegal... The Supreme Court today has told the American people that citizenship can be the proceeds of a crime." — Buck Sexton (41:47)
• "We now have a situation where we could have a true Manchurian candidate who's serving the interests of China... The Supreme Court is basically now saying that, yeah, that's okay. A Manchurian candidate." — Tom, Tampa (43:29)
  • "Yes, correct. Tom. I wish I could say—no, no, no, Tom, you are correct." — Buck Sexton (44:31)

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Memorable Moments

• Buck’s emotional lamentations about the loss of the traditional concept of American citizenship: "If everyone is American, then what does it even mean to be American? If the bar is so low, if it is so debased, as I said, what are we left with?" (13:22)
• Congressman Jordan's optimism for upcoming Ohio races and hope for Trump to rally the base: "It's Ohio... President Trump has made us a Trump Republican state... I think we're going to win." (35:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Supreme Court Ruling Analysis: 02:02–18:58, 20:53–25:10
• Biological Sex/Trans Athlete Ruling: 05:12, 21:04
• Rep. Jim Jordan Interview: 25:10–36:35
• Sanctuary Cities/Legislative Remedies: 27:42–33:58
• Listener Calls—Birth Tourism & Manchurian Candidate: 41:14–46:08

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Tone & Style

• Buck is passionate, direct, and combative, expressing anger and disappointment over the Supreme Court ruling.
• The language is blunt, often humorous in a sarcastic fashion.
• The episode maintains the familiar culture-war framing and populist conservative ethos of the show.

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Useful Takeaways

• The Supreme Court’s ruling upholds entrenched birthright citizenship, requiring a constitutional amendment to change.
• Conservative lawmakers see legislative avenues for tightening U.S. immigration and sanctuary city policies but acknowledge significant challenges in a divided Congress.
• Buck and his callers worry about long-term national security and cultural identity ramifications, emphasizing existential questions about what it means to be “American.”
• Despite the focus on bad news, Republican optimism for future political battles (particularly in Ohio) remains present.

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Listeners came away with a sense of urgency regarding citizenship and border issues, and a call to political action to counter what the host sees as dangerous legal precedents.

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some of the stats, the details, just so we can have a really robust conversation about this. It's important we talk about it and understand what is not just in the decision, but what happens now. This is a big deal, unfortunately. It's a bad big deal. But this is, as Alito wrote, one of the most important decisions in the history of the court. And in my judgment, the court has made a serious mistake. So you had Gorsuch, Alito, Thomas see this for what it is. That's the three who just said, you guys have got to be kidding me. I mean, in other words. But that was their bottom line on this. You can't really believe that somebody who shows up and this happens. This isn't just a theoretical. This happens every day in this country. We'll get to the. By the way, the trans athlete thing that went in our favor. So that's good news. There is some good news to discuss today as well. And there was also a ruling on, on political campaign finance donations. We'll get to that. That's much smaller potatoes right now than this. The trans ruling went our way, but that I think was expected. I mean, that would have just been. The court no longer can read plain English.

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[Buck Sexton]

Well, maybe the court can't read plain English. Think about some of the things that have had to be had to be taken up by the Supreme Court. Does the word temporary in fact mean temporary as in not forever and will end at some point? The court had to rule on that. The Democrats on the Court, that's what they are. People say, the liberals, they're Democrats. The Democrats on the court said, no, temporary actually means forever, because you're mean. That was troubling. Today, the court did find that when the law says biological sex and separation thereof under Title nine, it actually is biological sex. And just because somebody might really, really, really want that word or that reality to be something else, it does not change. So that's encouraging. But now let's get back here to the big one, which is the birthright citizenship case. The court, and this came up in oral arguments before the court has said today, in essence or no, really, actually quite explicitly, I shouldn't even say, in essence, if a Chinese birth. And that's where there's a lot of this birth tourism that goes on. And that also raises concerns in this country because that's our primary geopolitical and economic rival. There's a lot of subversion, a lot of espionage, a lot of working against the interests of the American people happening when it comes to China. The Supreme Court today said that if a Chinese birth tourist breaks the. It is against the law to do this. Keep in mind, birth tourist shows up here, has a baby here, takes that baby out of that hospital in San Francisco or Los Angeles or wherever, goes back to China. They can come back here in 18, live their whole life in Beijing. Maybe they don't speak a word of English. Maybe all they've learned is how terrible America is. They can come back here at age 18 and they're as American as you and I. They are as American as apple pie. My friends. It's deeply distressing just to say that out loud because we know at a gut, at an instinctual, dare I say, at an American level, that is just not true. It's just not true. The court can say it's true. But the court also said that there was a special right to privacy to kill a baby in the womb. That they were wrong on that one for a long time. The court also ruled in Dred Scott. The court also ruled in Roe v. Wade. The court, they have been wrong in the past. And I think this is wrong. And it wasn't 9 0. It wasn't like, oh, my gosh, there's no real question of fact here, or there's no question of law. It was six, three. And Kavanaugh says, look, I gotta go right now with the majority, as in, this is the law now. But he thinks that Congress can just change this. But the majority held that this is actually constitutional, that this is in the Constitution and therefore a act of the legislature alone would not be enough. You would need a constitutional amendment. You would need a constitutional amendment. The court says today to make it no longer the case that an illegal who shows up here from Nicaragua, comes across the border, has a baby here and maybe goes back home, is. Is and then returns at age 18 or returns that could return in a few decades and run for president. As American as American gets, it's all the same. I'm sorry, I. Well, I'm not really sorry, but I sit here and I tell you what has happened today. But I also tell you that as far as I am concerned, a majority of the Supreme Court has decided that to be legally American is so debased that it can in fact be obtained as the proceeds of criminal conspiracy. And that the founders who risked hanging to forge this nation wanted us all one day to think that citizenship is just a game, a joke, a scheme of no real meaning, no bonds of fraternity, friendship or nation among us. It's just words on a page courtesy of some bureaucrat somewhere. That is it. It's a devastating ruling. Now, now that I think we've explained at least the basics of what this is, they're saying subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That was always the. Now, keep in mind the Congress had to change. Change the law after the 14th Amendment because of Native Americans were not considered initially to be automatically citizens as a result of the passage of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment explicitly had to deal with freed slaves and that they are Americans and that they are full citizens. And there should be and can be no question or debate about that. It is ludicrous. It is ludicrous for the justices to sit there and say, you know, that also covers people who are subject to foreign citizenship and foreign law, who come here in violation of our law, have a baby and even return home. That's one thing. The anchor baby thing is bad enough because that is the proceeds of a crime. It's a benefit. And let me also point out that anchor babies of all kinds are a rapid pathway for the rest of the family. That's what there's the anchor to keep them here, but there's also the anchor pulling in the rest of the foreigners to skip the. To the front of the. And then we're told it's family reunification. This is a huge incentive for people to continue to game our immigration system. And it's happening at the same time that we are told we need to pay more, we need to pay more taxes, there needs to be more rules, more laws on the law abiding more restrictions on the productive. You're not doing enough. Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times is saying that Elon Musk has killed millions of children because of cuts to usaid. If we aren't paying, you and I aren't paying to put gas in the tanks of cars in West Africa or the Sudan or, or Cambodia and there's any problem over there, it's our fault. We're literally killing children. That is the position of the left now. So we have to come together and have a conversation about what does it in fact mean to be American? What is it to be American? Even some on our own side, I think, err, when they say, well, we are just a creedal nation. No, we are a people and a creed. We are two things simultaneously and one cannot be separated from the other. If you change the people entirely, the creed does not matter. If you change the creed entirely, well, then the people will be led astray. But this Supreme Court is absolutely leading us astray with this decision. It is distressing. And it's not just because I think it shows a mentality that a large portion of the country shares, that Americanness is just status, something that can be changed with the check of a box, with the wave of a bureaucratic wand. There's nothing to it. You don't have to speak English. You don't have to share our history. You don't have to even grow up or live or be around any of us. You could, in fact, according to Justice Roberts, who is a coward, and Kavanaugh, who, well, he's not as bad. Coney Barrett, who I think is just not as smart as the others. Just being honest with you. I'm talking about the conservatives. They think that if you live your whole life in Beijing, but you spent five days here after being born in San Francisco, you should be able to run for president in America. You are a US citizen. We should be willing to deploy Seal Team 6 anywhere in the globe to save your ass. Even if you've lived in Beijing for 40 years because you spent five days here in San Francisco and they decided that subject to the jurisdiction thereof on a tourist visa means you're American. The problem is, my friends, they have opened the definition so wide that you'd have to ask, if everyone is American, then what does it even mean to be American? If the bar is so low, if it is so debased, as I said, what are we left with? And let me tell you, anybody who is feeling a little squeamish about deporting as many illegals in the country as possible before. I hope this is a wake up call to you. The left, the Democrats, the communists in this country. That's right, the communists in our midst. They view this place, America, as a commune. They want us, they want us to be subject to all the other jurisdictions thereof as well. They want to take what is yours. They want to give it to others. They want you to shut your mouth in the process. This is a very dark day on the court. This is a very dark day for America. We will fight on. We will keep pushing. But I cannot sugarcoat it for you. This was a devastating ruling from the court. And you have to wonder, you ask yourself, how many people going forward are going to be willing to fight and die for an economic zone? How many Americans going forward are going to say, I will answer the call, I will go anywhere the commander in chief tells me to and risk my life and be away from my family and not see my children and not be next to my wife or my husband for months and months, perhaps even over a year at a time on deployment. How many will do that, knowing that it is so cheapened to be American that someone can show up here for five minutes and have all the same rights, all the same benefits, but somehow not the same obligations as you and me? They have no answers for that to you, for you today on the court. And I wish I had all the answers on this, but I don't. Honestly. It's a, it's a bad day for the country. 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[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Yeah. It's common sense that if you're here and, you know, unlawfully here in the country and you have a child, that that child should not imagine. I mean, I think even Alito in his. In his dissent said, in my judgment, the court made a mistake, mistake that will seriously affect the country's future. So if that's the situation, let's look at legislative ways to fix it. I think you just have to write something straightforward like, no, the 14th Amendment was written at a different time for a different sit. I. E. You know, dealing with the evil of slavery in the aftermath of all that and then in the fact that you were born here is not actually make you subject to the. Just. Just by the fact you're born, that it shouldn't fit that clause. So I think that is the key takeaway. But. But unfortunately it was what, five, four, the other direction. And the court said, no, the 14th Amendment is going to be interpreted in a way that says you are a citizen.

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Is it? I'd have to look at this. I know that birth tourism is illegal. There have been cases brought against usually the. The like birth tourism center or the place that is conspiring to. To bring in people to do this. My understanding is that, you know, that that is illegal. Is there any restriction on visas for people from countries coming here at six months or eight months or whatever? It may be pregnant, depending on how long they'd have to stay in the country? Is, is that also something to be looked at? Because people are wondering, short of a sweeping change in what just happened today, how do we tighten things up? Because this is just going to be a free for all now.

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Yeah, well, we do need to tighten things up in a host of ways and make sure that in the event we get another Joe Biden, he can't do what he did, which is allow 10 million people just to come in the country all claiming asylum and saying temporary protected status is not temporary, it's forever on all the things that he did. So we do need. And maybe when we put that legislation together, which we passed in the House last Congress, maybe we need to go back and do some of that again. We can look at what you just described. Oh, there should be further stipulations if it looks like this is going on. In fact, Alito used that term in his dissent. He talked about Birth tourists. That was one of the things he cited. So maybe we do need to look at that as well. But I do know we need to tighten up the asylum laws. Need to fix what's called the Florist decision. We need to make sure there can't be no catch and release those things. We need to get into law so that we don't have 10 million people coming across the border like we all like, like what happened with, with President Biden.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, I know you are doing a hearing, I believe, right after you're done with us here on air, up on Capitol Hill with Angel Moms. And this obviously goes very much to the issue of illegal immigration and law enforcement. What's going on with this? Tell everybody what's happening.

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Sanctuary jurisdictions is the dumbest policy I've ever heard. Understand what they did. Systematic plan of the left. They let in 10 under Joe Biden, then they create jurisdictions where it makes it difficult to remove those individuals even when they commit another crime. Because remember, sanctuary jurisdiction is simply politicians telling local law enforcement, you can't work with federal law enforcement when you go when it comes to enforcing federal law. And then, of course, the third step was Democrats tried not to pay ice. They tried to demolish ice. So this is their systematic plan. And what happens is real consequences for families like Ms. Gorman, who was the student, and Loyola who was killed by an illegal migrant who had committed a crime and who was let out because they wanted to be soft on people and take into effect their deportation status when they decide whether to charge people with crimes or what kind of sentence or plea agreement they might get. This guy kills Ms. Gorman and her mother is testifying today at 2:00'. Clock. So it's all part of us. We've passed legislation already out of our committee to address the sanctuary jurisdiction problem, which again is part of this systematic plan of the left. Oh, by the way, a third of the country, we've talked about this, I think before, Buck, but a third of the country lives in a jurisdiction that is a sanctuary. Sanctuary jurisdiction because it's all the big blue cities and big blue states. It's ridiculous that a third of the country, their political class tells the local law enforcement, don't work with federal law enforcement. And the consequences are what happened to, to Sheridan Gorman, whose mom, Jessica, is gonna be testifying at 2 o' clock today in our hearing.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, legislation is a good idea. It will also run up against the realities of a Democrat filibuster or threat thereof in the Senate side. Right. So there are limitations. This is good for the conversation. This is good to show people what sides of the issue Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill stand. But I would ask, you know, you know President Trump very well and you are quite aware of what's going on with the executive branch, which has critical functions that are still underway here, critical missions that are underway to enforce the laws when it comes to immigration. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, your former Congress, well, you know, Senate side, but congressional colleague, he was on TV over the weekend and said something about, well, there's all these Haitians who are no longer covered by tps, but they can apply for other things and see how that goes. People did not like that. Let me just ask you, are you hearing and you would know cuz you talked to them. Is the executive branch dialed in and ready to go with the kinds of enforcement operations that have been promised from the very beginning of the Trump presidency? That is, are there major deportation operations that are coming?

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Yeah, I mean, I mean it's been over, you know, a million some that have been deported in President Trump's here year and a half in office. And of course we've got the ruling on temporary protected status. And in simple terms, temporary means temporary. And I think it was someone who works at DHS was on doing an interview and their statement was to folks is, look, you don't have to go back to your home country. You just can't stay here. So that's pretty direct saying that people are going to have to leave. Now, are there other problems? I don't know exactly what those would be, but maybe they can claim something. But it seems to me then you're going to have to, you know, touch back and reapply in some kind of asylum or whatever you want to do. But yeah, I think that this, this administration has done what they've said they were going to do in enforcing the law and going after people who are here illegally, particularly ones who've committed crime. That's why this again I come back to the sanctuary jurisdiction, why this is such a stupid policy and yet it's being embraced by the left and it's currently in effect in about a third of the country.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, is there a budgetary mechanism that, you know, that's where obviously the majority has much more leeway and we've heard about a possible withdrawal of funding. For example. There's actually a lot of federal law enforcement dollars that go into a lot of these sanctuary, really all of them, but major jurisdictions and the federal government could say, look, if you're not going to be Helpful. We could pull back that funding. I mean, what are the. Other than the narrative, the discussion, the showing the American people what's going on? I know you're doing this hearing coming up. What are the levers that can actually be pulled so that sanctuary jurisdictions, if they're not gonna change, at least feel the heat?

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Yeah, good question. One is that the power of the purse, which is. The founders envision that as being the primary power that the legislative branch would have. That element is in our bill that we've passed out of our committee on Sanctuary Jurisdiction. The other element is you say to law enforcement, you can't be. If local law enforce, which the vast majority do, if they want to work with federal law enforcement to enforce the law, and again, most of them do, then we give them immunity from being harassed and targeted by their local political jurisdiction. And then third, we say, and this is the most powerful part, I think, in the legislation, we say, oh, to families like Ms. Gorman's mother who's going to be testifying later today, we say, you have a cause of action to go against the city, against the political entity that allowed this to happen, who said it was okay to release bad guys, not work with ice and then they commit some crime and harm your family. You have a cause of action, private right of action to go after them. So there's three key elements in the legislation. The money protecting of the law enforcement who want to work with federal law enforcement, and the private right of action for families who've been harmed.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, is that. So that private right of action, that would be a statutory change. Where does that stand right now?

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

Yes, that would be a statutory change. It's in the legislation we passed from the committee. We think this is going to be on the House floor. We've been pushing for it. We want to get it on the House floor and pass it, but we're making sure we got all the votes because I don't think we're going to get any help from the Democrats again. The Democrats have embraced this crazy concept.

[Buck Sexton]

Is there anything else on the immigration front that you would like to see Congress take up? You know, putting aside for a moment the roadblock of the Senate without running roughshod over the filibuster, getting rid of it, whatever. Is there anything else that you think on this immigration issue deserves more attention at this stage? Because, I mean, I'm going to tell you something. A lot of people, Congressman, feel a little dejected right now. You got to be kidding me. Anchor babies and birth tourism is. Is enshrined in the Constitution, according to a small majority in this court. That's a rough one.

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

No, I understand. The main thing we want is this bill on sanctuary cities, sanctuary jurisdictions. We think that is the most important thing to pass. But as I said before, I do think it makes sense to codify, put into law things that Joe Biden was, was to prevent the next Joe Biden from doing the things he did, like the catch and release. Now, we don't have that happening under President Trump because he's actually, he's actually, you know, secured the board like you said. But it'd be nice to put things into law which make it more difficult for another Democrat if, you know, you know, if it happens, we hope it doesn't. But if a Democrat gets back in the White House at some point, making it tough for them to do what

[Buck Sexton]

Biden did, can I ask you that we can do in that we're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan. I know you got to go to a hearing in a second, just one last one for you. I'm hearing from some of my people that there's concern for the upcoming election for Republicans in your home state of Ohio, particularly on the, I'm really just talking about on the Senate and gubernatorial side in those races. Is that stuff overblown? Can you just give us a little insight into it's.

[Congressman Jim Jordan]

We got good candidates. Vivek, I think, is great. We endorsed him early, like him. I think he's going to do a great job for our state. And the same with Senator Houston. But it's Ohio. You know, before President Trump come along, we were the bellwether state. Now President Trump has made us a Trump Republican state. But I do think the early polling shows that these races are real races. But I think we're going to win. We just, I think it's going to require President Trump coming to our state, which I'm sure he will do, and, you know, helping with turnout with Trump voters, Trump Republicans coming out to make sure they vote for Senator Houston and for Vivek as our next governor. But I think we can win. And there's also a pickup opportunity. I think we had a good chance to beat Marcy Kapturn, that northwest Ohio, Toledo area congressional seat. I think we had a good chance there with our candidate, Derek Marin. So we're looking at all that.

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[Buck Sexton]

We needed a little shot of optimism here at the end, so that's good. We can go to Congressman Jim Jordan for that one. Congressman George, appreciate you, sir. Have a great two 50th and we'll talk to you soon.

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You too. Take care.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Caller Larry or Tom]

Hi, Buck. Hey, now that the Ream court has bent us over with this pitiful ruling, do you think it would be wise for me to start a business, fly mean and pregnant women from all over the world for a fee?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I think it would be unwise because I'm pretty sure it's illegal. But thank you for calling in, Larry. I just say the. There is no way around this. The Supreme Court today has told the American people that citizenship can be the proceeds of a crime. That's just a fact. I don't think anybody who understands the laws and the statutes could argue that it is birth tourism by conspiring to do that and by purposefully. Because I think you actually, I think that for some visas, you actually check whether you're, you know, you're pregnant or not and things like this. I have to look into the specific statutes around this, but I do know that it's people. There have been prosecutions of birth tourism centers. It tends to be in California. You have. Because people come here, they fly here, they get the citizenship here from Asia. If you're, if you're walking, you come across the US Mexico border and you just try. And that tends to be migration where they just want to stay. It's different. They show up. That's the more the anchor baby thing of I came, I had a baby here, I'm staying here. The baby now means that they're American. I'm staying. The it is really a more of a, of a West coast phenomenon, at least as far as I know, that people come, they stay for like a couple of weeks, have the baby and then go back home and then show up and say, well, you know, my kid gets in state tuition at UCLA and you know, they're full citizen. And now they can sponsor us as, because they're an adult, they can sponsor us for chain migration and so on and so forth. Tom in Tampa, what's going on?

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[Caller Larry or Tom]

Hey, hey, Buck. Listen, the point I wanted to make, point I made it producer Greg is, you know, if we look at the history, the far left, the far right, that one side likes to say, well, Coke was a Manchurian Candidate because of Russia collusion or, or Obama was a Manchurian Candidate, what this has actually done. And I Don't know if anybody's really talking about this is now the Supreme Court is saying, all right, I can bring in the anchor baby thing from China. I can birth the kid here from China, I can bring in the kids from Saudi Arabia and they can now run for president. And we literally now, like in the case of a Chinese who would run for president that way and actually get elected to buck, we now have a situation where we could have a true Manchurian candidate who's serving the interests of China. And it's, it's out in the open. The Supreme Court is basically now saying that, yeah, that's okay. A Manchurian candidate.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Caller Larry or Tom]

Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

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