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Clay Travis
To today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition, Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we just keep stacking wins. Lots to dive into. Start with the fun. By the way, we got a loaded show. David Sacks, AI czar of the new Trump administration will join us at the bottom of this hour. Multi billionaire venture capital investor, brilliant guy. Lots to talk about with him. He'll be on with us in this hour. Second hour, we're gonna talk with Mae Mailman. She's inside of the Trump White House. She's going to talk about the big blow up that happened in the final hour, during the final hour of the show on Friday when the governor of Maine said she would be suing Donald Trump over men being allowed to continue to play in women's sports. But then also lots of spice surrounding it. May was there. She's going to come on and tell us all about it. Plus, there's a viral story that I'm told is not true, which we'll talk about in more detail. But some of you may have seen a report that the Philadelphia Eagles had rejected a White House invite. They are the super bowl champions. You'll remember. Trump certainly cheered at the Super Bowl. Many of those people in attendance were Eagle fans. I'm told by the White House that there has not been an official offer extended to the Eagles and that there has been no rejection, that that was fake news. We'll get into that maybe a little bit with May. And then the new head of the epa, Lee Zeldin, former congressman from New York, nearly beat Kathy hochul in the 2022 governor's race. All of that coming in your direction during the course of today's show. But Buck, yesterday I woke up on Sunday morning, rolled over to check and see what the news of the day was and there was joy in the Twitter streets. MSNBC far left wing moron host Joy Reid fired, her show canceled as NBC, MSNBC panics as no one is watching their network in the wake of Trump's electoral victory in November. And Buck, before we play, some of the best moments of Joy Reid. To me, the biggest takeaway, and I'm curious what your takeaway here would be, was in the wake of 2017, when Trump came into office being anti Trump and a part of the resistance was great for the New York Times, the Washington Post, cnn, msnbc, NBC, cbs, abc, all of their audiences skyrocketed as they bought into the hardcore Trump resistance. But so far, as we sit over a month into the Trump era, there is no rush to support. There is no democracy dies in darkness equivalent. The resistance as you and I have talked about is actually sad. We watched the resistance march through the streets of D.C. the culture appears to have been has shifted and the business imperatives to be able to make money are vastly different. And that to me, is the underlying foundation of why Joy Reid got Fired. Certainly if there were money to be made, I think MSNBC would have continued to cash the checks. But she's an embarrassment. She's a moron. Her show was not good. And the profitability of that show has declined, which I think is the signature takeaway of the big picture here.
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David Sachs
You also have the step down of Lester Holt from NBC, which was just announced before we came on the air. This is part of the ongoing, I wouldn't say shake up, I would say reckoning that the Democrat aligned media is going through right now. Because even if you were somebody who liked Joy Reid and we gotta get, we got a montage coming here. We need a montage. Even if you're somebody who likes Joy Reid or you're an MSNBC watcher, you do, I would think, live in reality enough that you can understand that everything they told you that was going to happen did not happen. That all the promises that they made were broken.
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Buck Sexton
Correct.
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David Sachs
And that apparently they know nothing about American politics or the American electorate or the justice system or the prospects of Donald Trump. All of the above. Right. If you were relying on these people to tell you what the American future was going to look like, you are wildly disappointed right now. And more than that, I think people are seeing their ideology that hasn't been really tested in the public sphere. Tested in ways and not just tested mocked. It's being mocked. And Joy Reid, I'll say this, you know, there's always the little part of me and I'm sure you have the same thing. Clay, do you celebrate when somebody loses a job? She's made millions of dollars. She's not poor. She's going to get a job somewhere else. Ok? This isn't celebrating when like the factory closes and guys work in the assembly line, don't have a paycheck to pay there, okay? Because you know, the libs love that they celebrate whenever anyone on the right loses their job. But then when someone like Joy Reid loses her show, we're supposed to go, oh, don't ever celebrate somebody else's loss. She's a multimillionaire. She's going to be taken care of. She'll get paid lots of money to do nothing somewhere else. Okay? It's, she's going to be fine. That, that's one thing that I wanted to get out there because now we're about to really have some fun and dive into Joy Reid's. Great. Are you ready for this, Clay? Strap in, everybody.
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Clay Travis
I can't wait to hear it. I have not heard this yet. I was Waiting to be able to experience it with all of you. This is producer Greg's work, right? Let's give him the mix.
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David Sachs
Producer Greg put on a, put on a beret. The artiste has gone to work here. He pulled it together. He edited over the weekend. Cut four. Hit it.
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Joy Reid
We do have a fascist groundswell in parts of this country, mainly among white men. He called himself Big B A L L S. That's what he calls himself. It was the Nazi era on Twitter that is back and Elon's doing it. Twitter now is useless to me if people like me are leaving. I don't know how Twitter survives. Trump has two daddies, Putin and Elon Musk. A far right dictatorial regime like Hitler's Germany or Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy. Vice President Kamala Debbie Harris, she's about to make history. She's about to become the first woman president. An historic, flawlessly run campaign she had. Queen Latifah never endorses anyone. Keep hit Hitler White House, we keeping them out. Restoring the name Fort Bragg. Sure looks like an attempt to resegregate the military extremist right wing fascist type government in Florida. It's a right wing fantasy land like Disney World, but in hell. Come to Florida, the meanest place on earth. The racist tomahawk chop. The gesture and chant promoting stereotypes, caricatures and frankly hatred of Native American people. Sports commentator turned right wing political commentator Clay Travis called for Trump supporters in New York City to tried to get seated on the jury and then refused to convict. That is openly encouraging jury tampering. Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening now in America are just undeniable. History may not repeat verbatim, but it sure does rhyme.
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David Sachs
You got, you got a shout out there in that montage. What is your favorite of the Joy Reid isms? I still think the greatest. I mean, a lot of, you know, Nazis and I don't like white Republicans and all that, but to me, Kamala ran a flawless campaign because I think Latifah endorsed her. Is the. Is the greatest thing Joy Reid has ever said on TV after she lost.
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Clay Travis
That's her Mona Lisa. That's, that's the one that I think her, her entire repertoire really kind of comes back to over and over again. In fact, here, that is if that was part of the montage. But it's cut seven and remember Joy Reid during the course of election night on msnbc. And let me, before we play that, let me also point this out. Buck, you said, hey, she's going to continue to make money. She's going to go elsewhere. Here is what I would say in general. Have you seen anyone upset that her show was canceled? Imagine that you have the opportunity, the luxury, the privilege to talk to millions of people every night to come into their home. And when you lose your job, no one cares because there is no one that is actually a fan of you. This is what's happened with Don Lemon. This is what has happened with Jim Acosta. This is now what is happening with Joy Reid. Whatever you think about Tucker, whatever you think about Bill O'Reilly, when their shows ended on Fox News, people were really upset that they were no longer there. And those guys have been able to have careers elsewhere. Piers Morgan, Megyn Kelly, there are people who talk to you on television that develop a connection and a relationship to such an extent that you can continue with them and you'll follow them wherever they go. I like to think, Buck, if one day you or I weren't on this show and we were like, hey, we're going to go do X or Y, that a lot of you would be like, hey, I want to go see what you're going to do somewhere else because we have a relationship with all of you. Joy doesn't have any audience. I didn't see anybody complaining about her being fired. There was a mass exaltation, and it's because of moronic takes like this. Kamala Harris, whatever you want to say, according to Joy Reed, she really did run a flawless campaign. She got endorsed by Queen Latifah and Beyonce and Taylor Swift. That was the entirety of her argument of how flawless the campaign was. Listening.
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Joy Reid
This really was an historic, flawlessly run campaign. She had. Queen Latifah never endorses anyone. She came out of the door, you know, I mean, she had every prominent celebrity voice. She had the Taylor Swifties. The Swifties. She had the beehive. Like, you could not have run a better campaign in that short period of time. And I think that's still true.
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Clay Travis
I mean, I don't even know that there's anyone on the Kamala campaign buck that would say Kamala ran a flawless campaign.
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David Sachs
Joy Reid views it as solidarity with a black female presidential candidate. And she's just going to say that Kamala was awesome no matter what Kamala did, and that that's what her job was essentially on msnbc, to say whatever the left wing wanted her to say at any point in time. There's also often a real nastiness in her commentary. You know, there was A, there was a glee in anybody in Trump world, by the way. J6 people getting locked up, having their lives ruined. Not a nice person. I mean, I have, I don't think she has any talent. I think she's a DEI hire, I think, and I think everybody at MSNBC knew that. And I think that everything about the media that we saw engaging in this kind of commentary before Trump's win proves that they have no honesty, they have no intellectual curiosity, they don't really know anything. And it's a good thing that there has finally been a walk away from this.
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Clay Travis
Now.
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David Sachs
There will be other left wing voices that grow in some ways, right? The oldest, what is it? The oldest aphorism. A crisis is an opportunity for people on the left right now we talk about the politicians, for commentators as well. For someone to come forward and be able to appeal to the left who has not been essentially mauled, you know, hasn't had their credibility fed into the wood chipper by the Trump machine just completely running them over. That's, I think, an opportunity. But we'll see who that is because right now there's not even. We talk about this. It'd be, there's some things. I know you've been doing Piers Morgan, which looks like fun. That's a left, right show though, right? And Pierce refereeing. There's not a left wing show. I mean, I don't think, because I don't even think Bill Maher is a left wing show and I've done that. There's not a left wing show that I would go on right now because there's nobody that I care to speak to from the left who's worth the, worth the effort, worth the problem that's, or, you know, the, the irritation.
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Clay Travis
I would like to go on the View. I would like to go on the View because of the carnage that would ensue. Not because I respect their intelligence or the quality of their show, which is on some level what you're saying, but just because the Jerry Springer, like, nature of the appearance would go so viral.
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David Sachs
Do you think they would come at you? Do you think they would come at you right away? Or would they try to pretend like they're going to be respectful of the guest?
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Clay Travis
You know, I mean, I bet every single person listening to us right now would watch me going on the View and I wouldn't hold back. I wouldn't tiptoe up to anything.
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David Sachs
I would argue with them. But I'm, I, if, you know, I tend, I tend to err on the side of Polite, at least in the beginning. Clay would just start throwing bombs right away. Clay. Clay is throwing bombs. I'd be like, pardon me, ladies, we're having an exchange of ideas here. Clay would just be like, shut your faces. You know, he'd get right into it.
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Clay Travis
I react to the vibe under which I am talked to, but also, I have no filter. And that can be good and bad, but it means that, you know, like the University of Chicago thing that I did, that went mega viral. I wasn't planning to say the exact phraseology that I was, but when she cut me off, for instance, and said, oh, but Trump's a grandpa, it's like, well, I'm gonna react to that. Or when they said, if you watch that clip, oh, Trump's an awful father. And I'm like, actually, his five kids have a great deal of affection for him. I mean, there are lots of things you can attack people for, but when I see them as being completely dishonest, I can't hold back. I just naturally react. I think it would be one of the most viral moments in the View history if they had me on. I don't think they would have me on Buck, because I actually think it would go well for me and poorly for them. But actually, they should. Right.
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David Sachs
I'll tell you, I don't know if you've ever been three or four on one before. I've done it many times back in the day, cnn, other places. It's very hard because people talk over you and you have so little time to talk, and then what they do is they accuse you of interrupting them while they're interrupting you. And you know this. It's so. Yes, it would be interesting. It would be good television. But I'm just. I'm telling you, it would turn into. It would turn into a melee very fast. Point being, though, there's nobody on the left who you'd want to sit down with and say, let's have a real exchange of. Let's have a real exchange of ideas here. Like, let's really get into the meat, the substance of the debates in this country right now. We'll come into this. Come back into this in a second. We haven't even mentioned yet, Clay, some of the phenomenal Doge stuff that is underway. No doubt they want to get into, which I'm excited about. You know, more eyes are on the economy these days, especially after Friday's report on consumer confidence. There was nearly a 2% drop on the Dow Jones in times like these. You want to prepare now before Things get rocky out there and that's where there's real value in owning gold as part of your portfolio. It's a stable, solid investment. And whether you choose to place your gold investment in your Savings account or 401k, Birch Gold can help you do that. Today. The value of gold has increased substantially in recent years. You can take a look for yourself and just check the price of gold and you'll see, especially over the past year or so. Gold prevails in large part because it's a limited commodity and with all that inflation out there, it is a store of value. That's a hedge against that continuing inflation chipping away at your savings. I've been an investor in gold for years and I just recently purchased more myself for my own private holdings from the Birch Gold Group. Birch Gold Group also just released a new study on how gold will fare in the Trump Era with a forward by Donald Trump Jr. To get your free copy along with Birch Gold's free information kit, text my name Buck to the number 989898 or go online to birchgold.com Buck again, text my name Buck to the Number 989898 or go online to Birchcold.com Buck for your free copy of the Ultimate Guide for Gold in the Trump Era. How to have fun anytime, anywhere.
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David Sachs
So we just had to do a eulogy for the readout, the Joy Reid show that is no longer on msnbc. You know who does not love msnbc? Donald Trump. He was at CPAC and here is what he said about what I think is his least favorite TV network. Although maybe it is CNN Fake News Play 2.
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Buck Sexton
I watched them. They're really screwed up. I watched this msnbc, which is a threat to democracy, actually.
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David Sachs
This.
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Buck Sexton
They're stone cold mean, but they're stuttering. They're all screwed up.
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David Sachs
They're all mentally screwed up.
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Buck Sexton
They don't know what their ratings have gone down the tubes. I don't even talk about cnn. Cnn sort of like, I don't know that they're pathetic, actually. But MSNBC was mean.
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David Sachs
Their ratings are absolutely down. This Rachel Maddow, what does she have? She's got nothing.
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Buck Sexton
Nothing. She took, she took a sabbatical where she worked one day that week.
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David Sachs
They paid her a lot of money.
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Buck Sexton
She gets no ratings. I should go against her in the ratings, Clay.
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David Sachs
I just, you know, they, they were rooting for Trump to go to prison and for so much bad stuff to happen. I love Trump taking a victory lap in the, the graveyard of reputations at CNN and MSNBC and the graveyard of.
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David Sachs
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Clay Travis
So anyway, David, big news. Apple announcing they're gonna invest $500 billion. 20,000 job. You are plugged in with the overall universe of tech better than almost anybody. How would you assess the first month of the Trump administration? And what do you see and hear from people in your universe as they are coming to grips with the new Trump term? How excited are they? What do they expect? What do they want? What do they need?
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think the first 30 days has just been incredible. I mean, really across the board. I mean, the president has just begun the term with so much energy, so much action, so many executive orders, it's been a total sea change. I mean, just outside of economics and AI and tech for a second, I mean, the president basically solved the border crisis within days. Biden, for the last year of his term, pretended that he needed congressional action to do that. And this was somehow a problem that was just unsolvable. And President Trump comes in there, and within days, he's basically solved the border crisis. It's just incredible. And so many other things are like that. And so I would say there's an overall feeling in the country right now that we can actually change things, we can do things. I mean, the government seemed to be this unfixable, you know, problem. Just basically this bureaucracy that, you know, can never get anything done. And we just have to live with a border crisis. We just have to live with a $2 trillion deficit. And now you see that Doge is going line by line through the budget, identifying the waste and fraud to eliminate that. So I think there's just, in general, this can do attitude. And I think that with respect to tech, it applies to that as well. I mean, the president has promised that we're going to be rescinding regulations, unnecessary regulations. For every new regulation, I think an agency has to propose something like 10 more to eliminate, which shouldn't be hard just given the sheer number of regulations that we have. So I think, in general, there's just a very optimistic attitude. And I think even in liberal Silicon Valley, there is, I would say, almost like a begrudging appreciation for what President Trump is doing. And you saw at the inauguration, the leaders of all the major tech companies were there. It's a very different attitude than, I think, in 2016, where, you know, I think a lot of parts of Silicon Valley saw themselves as part of the resistance. Now, I think they're. I think they're fairly positive about the Trump administration. They may not all be saying that publicly, but I think they know that on the whole, it's going to be much better for business than the Biden administration.
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David Sachs
David, it's Buck. Appreciate you making the Time for us on the, on the issue of AI got a lot of attention recently because of that moment where everyone freaked out about Deep Seek and is China going to get ahead of us? And without getting into the weeds on that, I just wanted to know, what do you think the strategic vision is for the Trump administration to stay ahead of China when it comes to AI, which obviously has enormous implications for the economy, but even for things like defense and, and beyond. So how do we make sure that we stay ahead of China and what's that strategy look like?
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Buck Sexton
Well, the President has been really clear that we just have to win the AI race. America has to maintain its global leadership and even dominance is a word that the President has used. And in his first week, he signed an executive order stating that the goal of the administration was to win the AI race and maintain our global dominance in AI. And you're right about why. I mean, AI, I think, is the most profound and significant new technology. I think it will be, you know, of this decade. I think it's a little bit like the Internet was in the late 90s, but maybe even more important than that, it's going to have huge economic ramifications. And it's also a dual use technology, so it has military applications as well. If we lose the AI race to China, it's just hard to imagine America maintaining its leadership in the world as the most powerful country. So if you care about the balance of power and you want America to be number one, it's just really intolerable to think that we could lose this AI race. So I think the President understands that one of the things he did in his very first week was rescind this 100 page Biden EO that was a monstrosity of unnecessarily burdensome regulations and with a fair amount of regulatory capture in there by certain companies. And so he, you know, the President, I think, has a vision of allowing the tech ecosystem to compete and use that, use that competition to spur us forward. At the same time, he's also identified certain critical enablers or building blocks of the technology that he's going to help unleash. And number one is energy. Because these new AI data centers consume vast amounts of energy, much more. You know, they're powered by GPUs as opposed to CPUs, and GPUs use a lot more electricity. So we, so it's, it's interesting. The AI race is very connected to the energy program that the President has. And so one will fuel the other. Then that's One of the major things that the President is doing now to make sure we win this race, we're.
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Clay Travis
Talking to David Sachs, AI crypto czar, part of the Trump administration. You've known Elon Musk for a long time. Elon voted for Joe Biden in 2020, I believe he voted for Hillary in 2016. He didn't endorse Trump officially until July, in the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt in Butler. When you see Elon being attacked as some sort of far right wing zealot for trying to find fraud and waste in the federal government, what is your reaction? As somebody that's had a long personal relationship with Elon, would you have ever believed that he would be being attacked as a right wing zealot?
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Buck Sexton
No, and I think you're right. This goes back a long time. Elon was politically neutral for the longest time, but he leaned left or leaned Democrat. I think he voted for Obama and I think at one point he voted. I think he voted for Biden or said he did, and I think that's public knowledge. But the Biden administration did everything possible to alienate him. And it all started where I think at the beginning of the Biden administration, they held an EV summit at the White House. And you know, Biden didn't invite Elon, who created Tesla, which is by far the most successful electric vehicle company in the world and is the sole reason that we have an EV revolution and why the United States is a player in EVs, as opposed to it all being China or some other country. And not only was he not invited, Biden then goes up there and gives credit to Mary Barra for creating the EV revolution when you know, what she did at GM was a total failure. And that was just pure cronyism for Biden. I mean, that was the whole pattern of the Biden administration is making life harder for entrepreneurs and then rewarding their supporters and cronies. And, you know, that was just the beginning. It got much worse after that. When Elon bought Twitter and restored to a free speech platform. That's when the left really declared war on him. Let's just be clear about that. I mean, Elon was a darling of the left because again, he was responsible for bringing about the EV revolution, which in their view would help solve climate change. Whether you agree with that or not, that was their view. And it all changed once he bought Twitter because he wanted to restore free speech. And that's when they really came after him. And that's when you saw Biden say, we got to look at this guy, you know, from the White House podium. We need to investigate him. And then they brought a whole raft of ridiculous investigations and lawsuits. Tesla was investigated for building a glass house or something absurd like that. Space X, which has national security applications, was investigated for not hiring enough asylum seekers, which is to say illegal aliens, which they're not even allowed to do under, you know, itar, which is a national security law. So, you know, the Biden administration did everything they could to alienate Elon. And then simultaneously, just higher level. This is a feeling that was felt by many people in Silicon Valley like Mark Andreessen, where they felt like the Biden administration was demonizing entrepreneurs and entrepreneurship. And these are all people in Silicon Valley who started from a more liberal mindset. And they gradually got red pilled and moved Republican because frankly, the Democrats became socialist. I mean, they became communists, or at least the faction within the party that represents that hard left was in control of domestic policy. So I think that it's not just Elon, it's lots of people got red pilled. But, you know, they didn't set out to be, you know, they're not, they're not like right wingers. They just believe in allowing America to compete and allowing entrepreneurs to create new businesses. Socially, they tend to be pretty moderate or liberal, but the Democratic Party just became so hard left that they became toxic to anyone in the center.
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Clay Travis
David, I think that's such an interesting analysis. Buck and I were out to dinner with a couple of prominent business executives recently, and they said that, and I know you were a huge part of this, Elon. Firing 75 or 80% of Twitter's employees and actually ending up with a far more profitable business was something that tons of managers, tons of owners have thought about doing before. It seems to be the blueprint now for what he's trying to do for fraud and waste. How much fraud and waste do you think based on what you've seen there is in our government expenditures and how important was the experience of going through those cuts at Twitter to giving you an idea what to do here with the government?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, you know, I was there at Twitter for the Twitter transition, and I mean, it was really remarkable. So Elon did some really simple things in hindsight, that you wonder why they'd never done before. So, you know, in a tech company, engineers are the lifeblood of the company. So Elon did something really simple. He just asked where he looked at the code repository and just searched how many engineers have actually written code? Checking code in the last several Months, and something like only 50% of the engineers at Twitter were even writing code. And, you know, that's their sole output.
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David Sachs
If you're scooping ice cream for a living and you don't scoop any ice cream, that's a bad. That's a bad sign.
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Buck Sexton
It's very easy to measure this. Yeah, I mean, it's very. The output is very easily measured. And, you know, I saw somebody, you know, I saw a former Twitter employee on MSNBC complaining about this, how draconian Elon was because she was required to, you know, do a test to prove that she could code. Well, sorry, the reason why that happened is because half the Twitter employees weren't checking in code. So then instead of just firing them, Elon gave them a chance to complete a code exercise to prove they actually could code. And if, you know, and if they weren't willing to prove that they could code and they hadn't actually checked in code, they got fired. I mean, it's just then they weren't doing the job there, and it wasn't clear that they were capable of doing the job.
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David Sachs
David, we're going to be coming into a hard break here in a second, so I just wanted to. I wanted to ask you one question that's crypto related. We're speaking to David Sacks, the crypto and aizar for the White House and venture capitalist. For a lot of people who don't own bitcoin and aren't necessarily involved in crypto, I think the question is. And I'll just give you. Sorry. A minute to explain this or so why does crypto matter for everyone, for the country, for the economy, for the Trump administration? What is it that matters about this?
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think crypto represents a new type of digital platform, but for finance or for money, there's a few different components to it. You got Bitcoin, which is a store of value. You've got stable coins, which are potentially a new kind of payment system. And then you've got just blockchains in general on which you can build new kinds of applications. And I think it's still very early to say what the innovation is going to be that comes from this, but it's a burgeoning area. It's a new kind of, you could call it, decentralized computing platform, and new kinds of financial applications can be written on it. And so it's just because it is, I think, a really interesting area of software. You just want that innovation happening in the United States. And I think that what the Biden administration was doing. They just literally declared war on crypto and they were doing everything in their power to kill the industry and they were driving all the entrepreneurship offshore. And you know, I think what we want to do is allow the innovation to happen here in America so that it's the United States that ultimately benefits from these startups and the innovation that they will bring. And there's just no reason to kill this thing in the cradle. Consumer protection can be achieved by having sensible rules around what people are able to do. But keep in mind that the biggest fraud in the history of crypto, which was ftx, was offshore in the Bahamas. And that's what happens when you drive these companies offshore, is that it's hard to know the good ones from the bad ones. And so part of the reason why I think we want to allow crypto to happen in the US and to, to sort of to allow the entrepreneurs to do things onshore is that it makes it easier for them to be supervised by regulators so that we can help sell the good ones from the bad ones.
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David Sachs
David Sacks, Crypto and AR czar for the Trump White House. Sir, we're going to need you to come back and talk more about the future and amazing things if you would make the time for us. So thank you so much for coming on today.
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Buck Sexton
Anytime.
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David Sachs
Thank you team. We'll be right back.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Well, you, we had this idea because you worked in the federal government that most people just say, hey, presidents come and go, but we get to stay here no matter what. That has certainly changed. We need to dive into I saw your tweet about that and I was laughing and little bit reading it as suddenly federal employees are worried about their jobs. We'll break all that down for you and we'll go to the White House to get the latest from there as well.
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