Hour 1 - Democrats' Post-Mortem

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Episode Summary Episode: Hour 1 - Democrats' Post-Mortem | Release Date: March 17, 2025

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Introduction: Spring Break Adventures and Growing Listenership

Timestamp: [03:05]
Clay Travis opens the episode by sharing personal anecdotes about spending spring break with his family in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and San Francisco. He highlights the strong fan presence in Colorado, noting, “as soon as we landed in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, everywhere we went, people were big fans” ([03:05]). This segment underscores the show’s expanding reach, celebrating the milestone of surpassing 500 affiliate stations across all 50 states.

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Section 1: The Democratic Party’s Declining Popularity

Timestamp: [09:12 - 13:35]
Clay and Buck delve into a critical analysis of the Democratic Party's performance in recent elections. Highlighting unprecedented lows in favorability ratings, Clay states, “the Democrat Party has never been in the history of all these polls going back to 1990 and 1992 less popular than it is today” ([09:14]). They reference polls from CNN and NBC indicating a sharp decline:

• CNN Poll:
  Buck cites, “Americans favorable views of the Democratic Party brand are at a record low, just 29%. That's compared to 36% for Republicans” ([11:15]).
  Clay emphasizes the severity: “75% of the country rejecting them right now” ([11:40]).

• NBC Poll:
  Clay notes, “the Democrat Party has never been less popular in the history of their polling” ([12:21]).
  Buck adds, “while 27%, just over a quarter of registered voters, have a positive view of the party” ([12:34]).

Clay critiques the Democrats' strategy, asserting, “the primary one is Democrats are wrong on every single issue” ([13:35]). He contends that the party’s messaging is fundamentally flawed, leading to their current predicament.

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Section 2: Trump's Resilient Approval Amid Democratic Struggles

Timestamp: [24:58 - 25:50]
Buck underscores the contrast between the Democrats' decline and President Trump’s robust support. Clay remarks, “Trump is at his highest approval rating” ([24:58]). This section highlights Trump’s ability to maintain a strong voter base despite various challenges, positioning him favorably against the beleaguered Democratic Party.

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Section 3: Judicial Overreach and Executive Authority

Timestamp: [06:32 - 18:07]
The hosts discuss the increasing tension between the judiciary and the executive branch. Buck points out, “He’s also trying to get Congress to move on clarifying that one district court judge cannot just override the president on executive prerogative issues that effectively could paralyze the government” ([06:32]). Clay adds historical context, referencing Marbury v. Madison, and predicts a “blockbuster Supreme Court decision” regarding executive authority ([06:07]).

They express concerns over federal district court judges impeding presidential actions, leading Clay to suggest potential legislative reforms: “require multiple judges to sign off on a decision such as this” ([35:03]). Buck echoes the sentiment, stating, “The only one that’s constitutionally in a position to enjoin the President should be the Supreme Court” ([36:50]).

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Section 4: Deportation of Venezuelan Criminals to El Salvador

Timestamp: [26:47 - 33:54]
Clay and Buck tackle the controversial deportation of over 200 Venezuelan criminals to El Salvador. Clay recounts the event, mentioning, “Trump put them on a plane to deport them” and their subsequent arrival in El Salvador ([26:52]). They discuss the legal battles initiated by federal district court judges opposing the deportations, framing it as an affront to presidential authority.

Buck highlights the strategic partnership with El Salvador, quoting Senator Marco Rubio: “We have sent two dangerous top MS-13 leaders, plus 21 of its most wanted back to face justice in El Salvador” ([31:20]). Clay emphasizes the financial benefits, noting, “This will also save our taxpayer dollars” ([29:28]).

The segment underscores the administration’s tough stance on illegal immigration and the subsequent judicial pushback, setting the stage for further discussions with Congressman Jim Jordan.

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Section 5: Upcoming Guest and Further Discussions

Timestamp: [45:47 - 49:05]
Looking ahead, Clay and Buck announce that Congressman Jim Jordan will join the show in the third hour to discuss budget machinations and the ongoing judicial resistance. They anticipate a robust debate on the separation of powers and the future implications for the presidency.

Buck briefly touches on other topics, including the impact of AI on business and personal anecdotes about their training experiences, maintaining the show’s dynamic and engaging atmosphere.

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Notable Quotes

1. Clay Travis on Democratic Decline:
   “The primary one is Democrats are wrong on every single issue” ([13:35]).

2. Buck Sexton on Judicial Overreach:
   “He’s also trying to get Congress to move on clarifying that one district court judge cannot just override the president on executive prerogative issues that effectively could paralyze the government” ([06:32]).

3. Clay Travis on Executive Authority:
   “How much can a court micromanage the power of the President?” ([35:41]).

4. Buck Sexton on Trump's Support Base:
   “Trump is speaking to the other 75%” ([24:58]).

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Conclusion: A Nation at a Crossroads

Throughout the episode, Clay and Buck provide a critical examination of the current political landscape, emphasizing the Democratic Party's vulnerability and President Trump's enduring influence. They highlight significant tensions between the judiciary and the executive branch, particularly concerning immigration policies and presidential authority. The hosts maintain a forward-looking perspective, preparing listeners for in-depth discussions with key political figures in upcoming segments.

For those seeking to understand the shifting dynamics of American politics in 2025, this episode offers insightful analysis, backed by recent polling data and real-time developments.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Travis Buck Sexton Show. Excited to be back with all of you. I was with my kids on spring break last week, had an awesome time out in Steamboat Springs, Colorado and also in San Francisco, believe it or not, visiting colleges with my oldest and then skiing with the with the family. I do not ski, Buck, but Laura Travis is an adroit, adept skier and so are the Travis boys. So anyway, they were out on the slopes. It was awesome. I met a lot of our listeners all over Steamboat Springs in particular, which is a big spring break destination evidently for a lot of Clay and Buck listeners. So that was a lot of fun. Really cool place. I'd never been before and we had an awesome time out there. So thanks for all the hospitality in Colorado. It was funny, Buck, my oldest goober in San Francisco, we went all over the place and as soon as we got Steamboat Springs, everybody knew us. And he was like, back dad. Nobody in San Francisco was like coming up and saying hi to you at all. And then as soon as we landed in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, everywhere we went, people were big fans. So we maybe need to bump the numbers up a little bit in San Francisco behind enemy lines there, but all over Colorado we have a lot of people listening out there all every single day.

[Buck Sexton]

I visited you in Nashville recently and I didn't even get fully out of the entryway of the airport. Like when you're walking and you see the seats and stuff and some Clay and Buck listeners want to take a photo right away. Yes. I was like, this is God's country, obviously.

[Clay Travis]

It is, clearly. So I appreciate everybody out there. We also want to welcome right off the top here dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of new affiliate stations all over the country, more and more are rolling in. We've added hundreds since this show started in June of 2021. We have surpassed 500 affiliate stations now, which is a huge number in all 50 states. And again, dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of you are listening for the first time in many different parts of the country. And more of you will be listening in the days and weeks and months ahead. But we all want to welcome you. We try to have a good time here, entertain you and inform you. And so we are ecstatic to be adding all of you that are listening to us as you start your days here. And we're going to have a lot of fun with you. Let's dive into some of the stories that are out there. By the way, our friend Congressman Jim Jordan will join us at the top of the third hour for the absolute latest on the budget machinations. I'm sure you talked quite a lot about this last week, Buck, as we every six months or so have the will they or won't they shut down the government story and inevitably it all gets resolved.

[Buck Sexton]

He's also trying to get Congress to move on clarifying that one district court judge cannot just override the president on executive prerogative issues that that effectively that could paralyze the government. And we're seeing attempts to do that right now. And so there's legislation that is making its way through that the House is working on to that end. He could speak about that as he will speak.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, we talked. We told everybody. This is important. I think, Buck, that actually opposition to Trump wouldn't be primarily coming from the Democrat Party necessarily. It would be individual judges who are, with the stroke of a pen, trying to take away President Trump's executive authority. And ultimately we are headed for a, I think, monstrous decision from the Supreme Court at some point, which attempts to lay out the scope of executive authority and judicial review, which, to be fair for those of us who are legal nerds, is a dispute and a debate that has been occurring all the way Back to Marbury vs Madison, which was one of the seminal Supreme Court cases in the early 19th century. So I think we are headed for a blockbuster Supreme Court decision as it pertains to the resistance in the judicial community. And we'll dive into that as well. Also, Buck is going to fill out a bracket. The NCAA tournament is set. Congratulations to fans of the Florida Gators, of the Auburn Tigers, Houston, Houston Cougars, and also the oh, man, this is now I'm falling apart. Buck here, the overall number one seeds of the NCAA Tournament, the Duke Blue Devils as well. Everybody out there, those are the four number one seeds. My University of Tennessee, fifth overall, top two seed, Alabama, Crimson Tide, Bucks favorite team as always, unless he is endorsing the Auburn Tigers is the six seed out there. If you just count straight through four into the top two seeds of the next round. All right, and 14 Southeastern Conference teams. My buddy Greg Sankey, commissioner of the sec, having an incredible season. That is the most NCAA tournament teams, including Bucs wife's alma mater, the Florida Gators, who are a one seed. All right, now, the difference between carrying.

[Buck Sexton]

Me is Carrie always roots for the Gators, whereas I root for whichever team is most beloved by wherever I am or Alabama if I just know they're going to win.

[Clay Travis]

You are on the, you are always rooting for the home team at any venue that you have, you have attended. And for those who don't know, Buck had never been to a college football game until we started doing this show. And now he is a college sports savant. So he's going to fill out a bracket. I'm going to fill out a bracket. Almost all of you out there listening right now, I bet will be filling out a bracket. Spoiler alert. I've got the Florida Gators winning the NCAA tournament. I think they are the best team in college basketball right now. But we will post our brackets for you at clay. And Buck, Buck had never filled out a bracket. Did you do it last year was the first time that you had ever filled out an NCAA tournament bracket in your life.

[Buck Sexton]

Last year or the year before was first time ever.

[Clay Travis]

So St. John, St. John's New York City, also a top seed with Rick Patino in your home state of New York, in your home city of New York City. So the east coast, well represented by St. John's also Michigan State since I'll give the top eight seeds out there. All right, let's go into this story, Buck, because, because I do think it's, it's really fascinating in many ways. After the 2024 election loss, you and I came on and we said, okay, what are Democrats going to decide? How are they going to analyze this defeat? All 50 states, they did worse than they did in 2020. Trump wins the popular vote. He wins the best Republican election victory. When you consider Senate House and the White House going all the way back to 1988. Kamala Harris has one and a half billion dollars, Buck, to spend, which is one of the the the most dollar figures in a hundred days that we've ever seen. They got their message out. They tried to argue, oh, we have a messaging problem, not a message problem. Right. In other words, people aren't hearing our arguments. That's why we're losing. No, actually I think the results show that people are hearing your arguments. And that in fact is what the problem is. It's not a messaging issue. It's that your message stinks. And so when you look at this, I want to let you hear this. Both NBC News and CNN came out with polls over the weekend that told the exact same story. And that story was the Democrat Party has never been in the history of of all these polls going back to 1990 and 1992 less popular than it is today. Let's start with the CNN poll. Poll results. This is on air CNN saying staggering brutal reality of Democrat disapproval. This is cut 12, a brand new.

[Buck Sexton]

Exclusive CNN poll that paints a brutal reality for Democrats as they struggle to mount a unified opposition to President Trump. Americans favorable views of the Democratic Party brand are at a record low, just 29%. That's compared to 36% for Republicans. It is the lowest ever recorded for Democrats in CNN polling going back more than 30 years.

[Clay Travis]

As you can see the party's numbers.

[Buck Sexton]

Dropping a staggering 20 points in just four years.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, that's CNN and might say, okay, maybe this is an outlier. I think many of you out there are probably saying who in the world are the 29% that actually approve? This is the cadre of crazy broken brain left wingers that we talk about on a regular basis. Basically 75% of the country rejecting them right now. But NBC also had a staggering result and they talked about it on your favorite show, Morning Joe. This is Mika Brzezinski saying the Democrat Party has never been less popular in the history of their polling as well. Listen, cut for let's start with the.

[Buck Sexton]

New polling that shows the Democratic Party.

[Clay Travis]

Has reached an all time low in popularity. The latest NBC News national poll finds that a majority of registered voters, 55%, have a negative view of the party.

[Buck Sexton]

While 27%, just over a quarter of.

[Clay Travis]

Registered voters, have a positive view of the party. That's the party's lowest rating in NBC News polling dating back to 1990. Meanwhile, though, a new CNN SSRS poll finds the Democratic Party's favorability rating at just 29%, a record low going back to 1992 and a drop of 20 points since January of 2021. Okay, I think there are a lot of reasons why this is happening, Buck, but the primary one is Democrats are wrong on Every single issue. And I think what you're seeing is there's a certain legacy approval where people just say, I'm a Democrat, I'm going to support them. But it isn't that high. When you're talking 27% positive on NBC, 29% positive on CNN, and both to post record lows at the exact same time.

[Buck Sexton]

They have nothing to offer their own side at this point in time, which I've never seen anything quite like this before. Yes, they just lost, but they lost in 2016, and that was emotionally devastating for them, nonetheless, right away. I mean, after Election Day, the maniacs were in the streets, truly in the streets. I saw them in New York City, hashtag resistance. We're gonna, we're gonna do everything. We're gonna have the media and the intelligence community and the FBI and everybody working to hamstring Trump in every way possible. Don't worry, they promised. We'll make sure that we get revenge on him. We'll stop his agenda and get revenge on him. Well, guess what? They can't stop his agenda really now. The only thing they've been able to do is with the judges. They can't stop him from becoming president anymore. And I think their days of promising that Trump is going to pay the price for standing in the way of the left wing destruction of the country, I think those days are gone. And I think that what we're seeing is the recognition among the left wing home team that the people that they've put on the field have absolutely failed them. I have not seen anything like this since Obama beat McCain in 2008. And even then, it wasn't long before Obama's radicalism and the recognition of the growth of government led to the Tea Party. And, you know, things got going very quickly. Maybe the Democrats will get their act together this time around, Clay, but I think the problem is they can't even find people to rally around right now. Actually step back from that. They can't find ideas to rally around. Yeah, that's, you know, OK, Obama won in 2008. You had a huge financial collapse. You had the problems of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He was very lucky with the timing. In a lot of ways, he comes in. Republicans still believed in what they had believed in before. Maybe they'd learned some painful lessons about interventionism, but it wasn't, oh, my gosh, nobody thinks that we should have a secure border. In fact, Obama won on traditional marriage and a secure border and cutting waste in government. He pushed ideas to become president that he didn't believe in at all. But those were popular ideas. The problem Democrats face right now is the party was hijacked. Their party was hijacked, meaning they were in control. Right. It wasn't just a faction. The faction had seized the cockpit of the plane by the lunatics. And they won't move off these lunatic ideas. The ideas are not popular that they push.

[Clay Travis]

Can, let's talk about this when we come back for a moment. Can you, it's, it's unheard of, I think, for a party to destroy itself like this such that. Can you even think of anything that Democrats are right on right now? I mean, it's fairly commonplace for people out there to say, hey, you know, I agree with the Republicans on this, the Democrats on that. That's how elections are decided. Right now. I, I can't even think of anything that Democrats are right on right now. Where I look at it, you know, say, hey, you know what, maybe the evidence, maybe the data, maybe the argument itself is a little bit more on their side than on the Republican side. I don't even know where they fight right now because they're fighting on such unpopular ground that the vast majority, 75% of Americans rolled their eyes at Trump.

[Buck Sexton]

Has absorbed some of the best ideas that were not left wing entirely but had a lot of support on the left. Yeah, Ideas like, hey, the working class in this country needs to not be fed into the financial wood chipper so that we can get cheap stuff from China. Right. That used to be more of a center left issue in the Bush era Republican Party. When you say this now, I think there's always this rejection. Oh no, that's not, no, no, I'm not talking about Trump's Republican Party, which is what it has been for a decade now. I'm talking about before that even some of the health stuff. Look at RFK Jr. Look at, look at non interventionism. Non interventionism, which I think Tulsi Gabbard represents in some way in this new Trump administration, among others. But Clay, non interventionism used to be considered part and parcel of the peace movement in many ways in this country. Right. Or the people that like the code pink types almost. And now we know that was all a fraud. Whole other conversation. So yes, we will talk more about, about that. And also Team Pull, Bill Maher, Bhatia, Sanger, Argonne.

[Clay Travis]

Did you see, I saw it over the weekend.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, we should pull that if we don't have it. She talked, Bill said, don't you regret voting for Trump? And she just. Which I was shocked he went in that direction because. No, actually, Trump voters are all doing backflips. They don't regret it at all. They. The problem is they're hoping they don't pull a hammy when they do the backflip. Like I've, I've never seen so many happy Trump voters in my life. We should get into that here in just, just a little bit. You know, there's a compelling video online that talks about a prediction, a prediction of disruption to our economy in the future. Look, I'm hoping it doesn't happen, but I certainly trust the person who made the prediction because it's my dad, Mason Sexton Senior. This is my father's area of expertise, the financial markets and how they affect everyday Americans. And I think it could be really helpful for you. Growing up, my dad was a stock market guy and he became famous when I was a kid back in the 80s for calling the crash of 87 in advance on TV. He nailed it. And since then he's been advising some of the biggest hedge funds in the world. Now he's come out publicly with another major prediction. You can see it at this website. Disruption2025.com, free to watch the presentation. So just go check it out. Disruption2025.com Disruption2025.com paid for by Paradigm Press.

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

It is really extraordinary. And you know, again, I've been saying for a while, and I think it's true, we're not just talking to right wingers on this show. We're talking to 75% of sane Americans. There's about 25% of people out there that have lost their minds. Trump is speaking to the other 75%. And I know there are a lot of you out there right now who weren't Trump voters in 2016. That are listening to us right now and you're saying hey, keep killing it. Including on the border where the numbers are incredible. Look, couple of things in life are certain death and taxes. Now there's a third Verizon at and T or T mobile. You're paying too much with them. For just 25 bucks a month you can get unlimited talk text, 5 gigs of data on America's most dependable 5G network. Tons of people saving money with Pure Talk. Average sized family of four can save more than $1,000 a year when they switch to PureTalk. And with PureTalk's US customer service team, you can switch hassle free. Dial pound 250 say clay and buck to make the switch. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Again, £250 say clay and buck to start saving today. They will hook you up. They hook up my family, my two sons have a pure talk phone. You can have one too. PureTalk250, say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We got a lot to talk about. Venezuelan big time battles over the deportation of those illegals. We'll get into that. Buck, did you see this just happened? I think in like the last half hour. The White House has released a video to closing time which has the memorable line, you, you know, you don't have.

[Buck Sexton]

To stay here but you can't. Oh, sorry, you, you don't have to go home.

[Clay Travis]

You don't have to go home but stay here.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Of the Venezuelans being deported, it is going to go viral on a level that I'm just telling you it is amazing. Whoever, whoever on the social media team at the White House and it's from the White House official account and in fact let's dive into that here for just a sec because I do think, Buck, this is going to turn into a big, a big storyline going forward. For those of you over the weekend who were not aware there were 200 plus violent rapists, felons, criminals who were illegally in the country, many of whom were Venezuelan gang members and Trump put them on a plane to deport them. And as they were being deported, a federal district court judge came out and said, no, you can't deport these guys. You have to bring them back to the United States. The Trump team, because the flight they said had already reached international waters, they said no, we're not going to comply with this federal court district, federal district court judge's order and they deported all of the 200 to I believe Nicaragua where They have been taken into a, a prison now in.

[Buck Sexton]

Is it El Salvador? I thought it was, yes.

[Clay Travis]

My apologies.

[Buck Sexton]

That's okay.

[Clay Travis]

We have talked about this before, Buck. When I practice law in the United States Virgin Islands. The prisons that exist in the United States Virgin Islands are terrifying. That is still under the United States flag, but you do not want to be in an outside of the continental United States prison. Prisoners get scared when they find out that they are going to be put in prisons like these in El Salvador, as just happened. And so there is going to be a major court battle over this and other issues because many of these federal district court judges have decided they are the resistance to the Trump regime. The we just talked about the fact that the Democrat Party's overall favorability has collapsed to levels never seen before. And right now, the district court judges, many of them appointed by Obama, they are the front lines of the resistance and they are trying to stop what Trump is doing.

[Buck Sexton]

We're going to talk to Congressman Jim Jordan about that in the third hour and what can be done or what Congress is trying to do on that. But first, I think this, you're laying this out, but this new approach to dealing with, remember, these are criminal illegal aliens in this gang, which is a designated terrorist organization. And the Trump administration is using a longstanding power of the president, the Alien Enemies act, to deal with them. So effectively, if you're an illegal alien and you're a part of Al Qaeda or you're a part of Trenda Aragua, you could find yourself sent down to El Salvador to this particular prison. Keep in mind El Salvador now, very safe place with a very happy populace. It's not like you're being sent to some country that is, is, is a mess and has this huge crime problem. And it doesn't have those things because of the giant prison that they've put all these different gang members into. Bukele has created this system where if you think you're going to prey upon the citizens of El Salvador as a gang member anymore, you're going to find yourself in this prison. It's going to be miserable. And a lot of them are never getting out. A lot of them have done absolutely horrible things. But Marco Rubio put this out. He said, we have sent two dangerous top Ms. 13 leaders, plus 21 of its most wanted back to face justice in El Salvador as promised by the president. We sent over 250 alien enemy members of Trenda Aragua, which El Salvador has agreed to hold in their very good jails at a fair price. That will also save our taxpayer dollars. President Bukele is a strong leader. He's also a great friend. So this is also Doge approved. It will save money. The amount of money to send these people to prison, the US Is a tremendous amount, by the way, per person. So a lot cheaper in El Salvador.

[Clay Travis]

Well, this also puts Democrats in a really challenging position. Are you going to come out aggressively and say, hey, the illegal, violent felon, criminal gang members have to be brought back to the United States, or are you going to just kind of pretend that this story doesn't exist?

[Buck Sexton]

Or.

[Clay Travis]

And this is the, the, the pathway that. I think they're going to take Trump, Buck. I think they're going to argue that Trump is a fascist dictator who is not obeying the, the rulings of the federal judiciary and that as a result, this is a sign of his overreaching power. Now they're going to try, I think, to make that argument without looking at the underlying decision that was made by this federal district court judge. And larger picture, this is, and this is what we're going to talk with Jim Jordan about. This is a really significant issue regardless of who the President is. And we talked about this, Buck, when there were a lot of federal court and also circuit court, which is the next level up, judges trying to look at what was going on with the border. Do you remember this? And they were getting struck down eventually because they were saying, well, the President has the right to make policy as it pertains to immigration. Individual states don't. There were lots of battles between the state of Texas and the Biden administration. Now all of these same judges are lining up and saying, well, the President really doesn't have authority to do this. And instead I, as a just a federal district court judge, and there are hundreds of them, I'm going to stop the entire executive branch from acting based on my individual decision. And even if they later get overturned, as is often the case, they can really stop the gears from turning for months. And this is what the resistance is really gonna look like because they know, and this is important, that if the House flips back to Democrat control in 2026 next year, basically Trump's ability to get anything through Congress is going to be limited and they're just going to try to run out the clock on him, which is why Trump needs to be as he is moving so rapidly because there are going to be so many impediments put up against him.

[Buck Sexton]

This also you're seeing in the way that the, the judges now are going to Clay, I think people are talking about bringing, you know, impeachment hearings.

[Clay Travis]

Now.

[Buck Sexton]

It's not going to work because you have to get to a threshold. We don't have the Senate threshold to do it. But there's a lot of anger when you see what's going on with some of these resistance judges. And there are also people who at every time during the first Trump administration, because, remember, federal judges have lifetime tenure. They've been doing this nonsense the whole time. Fifteen judicial or universal injunctions in the first or in one month of Trump's first term versus 14 in all, or I believe, in three of Biden's four years. So you can either go one month of Trump or three years of Biden. The same number of judicial injunctions given with, you know, universal, universal hold on things, which is crazy. It's just, it's just absolutely nuts, and something needs to be done about it. And then there's also Trump voiding the pardons, of which we should get to.

[Clay Travis]

The auto pen is very, very auto pens.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll discuss that in a little bit because we're still on the judges right now. But what, what really. Is the. Is a judge allowed? Is a federal judge supposed to be able to say that? Let's say Trump couldn't have, couldn't have ordered those strikes on the Houthis. Can a federal judge just enjoin the president? Sorry, you can't do that. You're the commander in chief. But you can't order a strike on an enemy combatant abroad because of, blah, blah, the Constitution or something. If that's the case, we actually no longer have a presidency. Right. And the fact that eventually the Supreme Court would overturn that judge is not good enough.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I, I'm really curious what Jim Jordan, who's going to join us at the top of the third hour, is going to argue here. A part of me thinks that we should maybe, when it comes to presidential authority, require multiple judges to sign off on a decision such as this. In other words, giving any individual judge the ability to enjoin, that is, stop a president from undertaking an action under his executive authority when there are hundreds of them, is far too much power, I think, for an individual district court judge to have. And the reason a lot of these decisions get overturned is they eventually go to the circuit court, and there are 13 circuits all over the United States on a federal level, and that requires multiple judges to act. And so a part of me wonders whether we should have a system where, let's say, if three judges have to all look at something when it comes to enjoining the President's actions and undertaking that action as opposed to one now. Well, this actually, but hold on.

[Buck Sexton]

These federal judges are all a creation of Congress. So the notion that they could be co equal with the President I think is inherently flawed to begin with. The only one that's constitutionally in a position to enjoin the President should be the Supreme Court.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

I thought it was one of the.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

I thought it was one of the best episodes of television that I've seen a long time. Oh my now, gosh. I was stunned by how many of our audience watched because when we talked about this, we played the clip of the Trump voting Texan that is in the group. It's a. For those of you don't know, HBO show, wildly popular. Probably the most popular, I would say show right now on television would on streaming. It's up there.

[Buck Sexton]

And also I gave you the wrong website, guys. It's GBRS group dot com. GBRS group dot com. Sorry about that. Someone just texted me like, hey, man, put the right. You know, because people are going to check it out right now. I'm telling you, they're absolutely incredible. If you love training with your firearms, you should find a way to get there and train with them. All right, man. You thought it was incredible. I thought my wife was going. We looked at each other like, I can't even. What is going on with this? I. I don't even know how to describe this to people. I feel like if they watch it, they'll be scarred psychologically.

[Clay Travis]

I thought it was one of the most amazing monologues that I have ever seen. And the guy I like.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

That's a great question. For me, it would be the Hills.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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