Buck Sexton (4:57)

I have.

Clay Travis (4:58)

And then what do we do? We start bombing them again?

Buck Sexton (5:01)

Yeah.

Clay Travis (5:01)

Well, then they shut the strait. The straight of Hormuz is a real choke point. There's a real problem. Sorry, go ahead.

Buck Sexton (5:07)

No, no, I think the question you're asking is the one that is the next step here. How much is this going to hold? And already there's disputes over what can happen in Lebanon and all these different aspects of Israeli action because Israel has been very active in northern Israel, southern Lebanon. I think what's going to end up happening is there will be flashpoints on this for probably the next six months between now and the end of the year.

Clay Travis (5:39)

And flashpoints. Do you mean things going boom in Iran or do you mean mean words in the diplomatic.

Buck Sexton (5:45)

I think things going boom In Iran, I think we'll probably scramble jets and go hit some more targets at some point in time to demonstrate that there has to be some, some tacit relationship and agreement.

Clay Travis (5:58)

We just. After that, though, is there some? Does Iran finally bend the knee and agree to Trump's terms? I think the answer is no.

Buck Sexton (6:10)

There's 15 demands from our side, there's 10 demands from their side. And the two demanding lists are in direct.

Clay Travis (6:19)

As far apart as. This is like, I want a million dollars for my house. I'll give you five bucks.

Buck Sexton (6:24)

That's where we are. Here is what I thought was the most interesting about this. First of all, who was attributed to making the decision? On Iran side, it's the gay atollah. We don't even know if the gay atolla can talk. We don't know where you came up with this term.

Clay Travis (6:42)

Is this a new term?

Buck Sexton (6:43)

I roll with it. I can pronounce that one. Well, the, the son of Khomeini, the Gayatollah. I'm not sure. Little Mo, I'm not sure if he's alive. I'm not sure if he can speak. But what I think he provides, Buck, is a convenient repository for decision making that makes it such that whoever is actually making the decision in Iran is able to say, oh, no, no, that's not us. If it's a little bit politically unpopular, that is the Supreme Leader. Even if the Supreme Leader is unable to make decisions, remember, we still haven't heard his voice. We still haven't seen a picture of him. We still haven't seen a video of him. There are just reports that he was significantly injured.

Clay Travis (7:29)

And so I want to push you on this a little bit. I want to push you on this a little bit. Okay. Because I actually want your optimism. And I'll be honest with you, I think most of the, most of our people with this right now, they want your, like, they don't want what I'm selling. But I just, I can't lie. I'm. I don't think this is a disaster, certainly in the market you're speaking, that it's not a disaster right now. And I think Trump's going to walk away. But if you're telling me if we're looking at what comes out of this campaign, right, what fundamentally we get from this versus what the Iranians get and what we wanted from the outset, do you believe at the end, like, make it the end of this by the end of this year? Has Iran given up the enriched uranium? Has Iran agreed to give up its nuclear Pursuit. And is Iran no longer in a position to, to choke us at the Strait of Hormuz?

Buck Sexton (8:16)

Okay, so let's go through the order. They basically have no air force, they have no navy. They have very limited ability to engage in any sort of aggressive act.

Clay Travis (8:28)

We destroyed their military. Right.

Buck Sexton (8:29)

Their military is done, if you take at their word. And I, I think this is likely true. Right now we have satellite observation on all of their future fuel cells, all their uranium deposits, everything that would be used to construct a nuclear bomb. And if Iran makes any effort to go and try to retrieve that which appears to be significantly buried under lots of topsoil based on attacks, we would take action as we see fit. So I think getting to the uranium, enriching it, all those things are going to be very difficult. So I think we have effectively neutered Iran's ability to impact, in a significant way, action in the Middle East. What I think is the most significant factor right now is who is making decisions and can we trust them. To what extent do we believe? Remember, go back in the early days of Venezuela, Buck, when Delsey Rodriguez came out and said, oh, they're still the American infidels. And, and then she's saying publicly one thing, but privately she's basically doing whatever we want and we're not talking about Venezuela in a significant way. Does someone have the sway in Iran? I don't care what they say about publicly in our country. I don't care if they show up and they throw their fist in the air and they chant death to America. Privately, are they being rational and negotiating with us in a productive way? And does the person who we are negotiating with, to your point, Buck, actually have the wherewithal to control action in Iran? Because it doesn't take much to blow up one of these fuel tankers. And, and so if there are competing factions inside of Iran, to what extent is the leader able to actually lead and control what people in the country are doing?

Clay Travis (10:13)

We did this, and there's a very detailed New York Times piece. Take it for what it's worth, whether you think they believe it or not, but a lot of it reads like what you would expect it to read like.

Buck Sexton (10:24)

Taking you into some of those meetings. I read this article too. Sometimes New York Times articles read like fiction. This to you, and you've been in the rooms, but this read like an accurate telling of what the debates surrounding this war were would be like.

Clay Travis (10:36)

Yes, it sounds like somebody who was in. It sounds to me like somebody who was in the room told them, now Whenever someone does that, of course they're usually the hero of the narrative. And, you know, you could sort of piece some things together or they at least look the most astute. But I think the New York Times piece largely aligns, and I told you this at the time, it talks about the little, the, the idea of maybe getting the Kurds involved, which they say came from the Israelis, which I know from working the Iraq issue for years, was a complete nonstarter. And sure enough, I was right. But the fact that that came up, or rather that the reporting is that that came up in the context of Iran. There were some pieces here that make me think that this is how it went down, how their decision making process was laid out. But Clay, we keep going around that this war was fought to stop Iran from ever being able to go nuclear. Now we're being told more that it was to stop Iran's ballistic missile force. Okay, they're going to be able to rebuild that. They're going to be able to count on the oil flow to fund buying from the Russians, buying from the Chinese, etc. Military hardware to get them back to where they were. So I know that we're supposed to believe that the destruction of the ballistic missile capability is like some fantastic victory. It's a victory. I'm not discounting it. Our military did incredible things. I'm not encountering that, discounting that either. But at the end of this, do we have either a different regime or a regime that agrees to the terms with which we could go forward and say Iran is not a nuclear threat anymore? I don't think the answer to either of those questions is yes. And I just have to be honest about that. I don't think that we're in, we're in place with either of those things.

Buck Sexton (12:28)

If the incentive structure as we have talked about on the program is for Iran to get nuclear weapons because it strengthens the ability and people in positions of power to stay there without external forces being able to remove them as exists in North Korea. Is there anything that could occur that would lead to Iran not pursuing nuclear weapons?

Clay Travis (12:51)

Well, this is, but this is my, my concern here is that we hit them with everything we could from the air, as they told us, as Secretary Hegseth has told us, we. And we annihilated them with everything we could from the air. We got to a point where it was, well, now we're just going to blow up your power plants and your, you know, your water treatment facilities and everything else. That was what Trump was talking about. Ok, well, that's, that's not a good thing. Like, that's not something you really want to do to a country of 90 million people. And if that's where we are for the next round of punishment, I don't know that we have a stick big enough, so to speak, to beat them into submission, to give us what we want. At the end of this deal, I think they're going to say to us, fine, hit us again, we'll close the straight. How long before your elections? That's my concern, Clay. I think they see what's going on here.

Buck Sexton (13:37)

I understand that concern. I think in the back of their mind, every leader in Iran knows that we can take them out. And I'm working under the capacity that we believe we have reached for Iran. Rational leadership that does have some control over the country. We'll see.

Clay Travis (13:55)

I don't think we do. I don't think. I don't think we have a different government. I don't think we have different people in charge. I think that that is, that ship has sailed.

Buck Sexton (14:01)

Here is, here is the test. To what extent do any of these oil and tankers get blown up? Because if they get blown up, then everyone purely economically is going to say, we can't risk going through the Strait of Hormuz right now. I don't think it's a rational act on Iran's leadership's behalf to blow up oil and gas tankers right now. But if they do, either they are intransigent, not working with us, or they just don't have any control over the factions that are willing to do that.

Clay Travis (14:32)

If I'm like the head of whatever's left of the IRGC leadership, Clay and Trump in two weeks, blows up my power plants, blows up truly civilian infrastructure. Yeah. I blow up an oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz. Like, I make this the whole world's problem real fast. So just looking at it, you could

Buck Sexton (14:51)

blow up a bunch of them. You could blow up a bunch of them and it would cost almost nothing in terms of the physical assets required to do so.

Clay Travis (14:59)

And this is, my friends, this is a suicide bomber culture we're talking about here in the Middle East. Like, they're willing to take a lot of pain to take other people down. So keep that in mind. You know how the Iranians used to clear minefields, Clay, in the Iran Iraq war, they had a special cadre of humans who would run to save tanks. Yeah, the martyr brigades. They would clear the minefields by walking on them. And that's what we're dealing with, everybody. All right, sorry. Buck is wamp wamp. But I'll always tell you the truth. I have my concerns. I love Trump. I love this country. I hope everything works out fantastically. Oil prices are dropping. That's good. But we're a long way from a victory dance in the end zone here in Florida. If you don't have a very intact roof, you got some issues. I'd like to tell you roof repairs are a diy, but we all know that's not the case. That's why you got to trust professionals like Erie Home. 50 years of experience, hundreds of thousands of repaired or reinstalled roofs to prove it. Take advantage of their offer now. They'll inspect your roof for any problems free of charge using a 25 point inspection plan. If your roof needs replacement, they've got all kinds of options at Erie Home, they've got the newest best materials. Your roof can last up to two or three times longer with what Erie Home can bring to the table. Your new roof from Erie Home comes with a 50 year transferable warranty. So that adds value. If you're going to sell your house, schedule your free inspection@eriehome.com Buck today and get a discount on the installation price. That's E r I e home.com buck this discount is maximized at $1200. Valid a new roofing installation only. Minimum purchase required and restrictions apply. C rep for warranty or promotional details, preset your pals, Clay and Buck on the Iheart app. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck talking a lot about the Iran ceasef. What comes next? The Trump administration declaring victory. The Iranian regime declaring victory. No surprise there. Let's hear from J.D. vance on this one.

J.D. Vance (16:52)

Cut to if the Iranians are willing in good faith to work with us, I think we can make an agreement. If they're going to lie, if they're going to cheat, if they're trying to going to try to prevent even the fragile truce that we've set up from taking place, then they're not going to be happy. Because what the President has also shown is that we still have clear military, diplomatic, and maybe most importantly, we have extraordinary economic leverage. The President has told us not to use those tools. He's told us to come to the negotiating table. But if the Iranians don't do the exact same thing, they're going to find out that the President of the United States is not one to mess around. He's impatient. He's impatient to make progress. He has told us to negotiate in good faith. And I think if they negotiate in good faith, we will be able to find a deal. But that's a big if. And ultimately it's up to the Iranians how they negotiate. I hope they make the right decision.

Clay Travis (17:40)

There's not going to be a deal. Tell you that right now. Mark that down. There's not going to be a deal that Iran concedes its nuclear program and gives away its enriched uranium. Hold me to this one, team. It's not going to be a deal. So just get ready for that.

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Clay Travis (18:59)

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

Buck Sexton (19:02)

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. By the way, news we had both Clay Fuller and Sean Harris on in the Georgia 14 congressional district. That is North Georgia up near the Tennessee border. Clay Fuller winning by around 12 or 13 points. Votes are still being cast, but he has one to take over Marjorie Taylor Green's seat. We had both those guys on Clay Fuller and Sean Harris and Clay Fuller has won that race. Will be back again in November as it's just a short period of time to be to be fulfilling. All right, we got a couple of talkbacks. I'll get to those. Let me ask you a question, Buck. What if there is a wink, wink, nod nod that Iran is not going to touch the uranium and we are able to say publicly, hey, nuclear ambitions in Iran are over and Iran is able to say publicly we didn't give up our nuclear ambitions. But there is an understanding that due to American air superiority, Iran doesn't have the ability to access what they had previously created. And that if they do attempt to do so, there will be significant consequences, but it will allow both sides to publicly claim victory. And the end result is one that we feel more comfortable with than the other. I think that's probably the most likely outcome here, is that Iran says, oh, we want at the negotiating table, and America says, oh, we want at the negotiating table. And the question is, to what extent is that public statement consistent with private actions?

Clay Travis (20:51)

So you think that we'll de facto get the nuclear concessions from Iran while they promise they're not going to give us publicly the nuclear concessions?

Buck Sexton (21:01)

I think that allows Iran to save face with the leadership.

Clay Travis (21:05)

I don't think they're worried about saving face, my man. I think they think that they've got us on this straight or four moves thing. I think they took our best shot and they're looking at us and they're like, all right, what's next? You're going to nuke us? What's next? Now, by the way, I know we're not going to do that, but I'm just saying from their mentality, what are we going to do? Are we going to start bombing them again in two weeks if there's no agreement? You really think we're going to do? We're really going to do that.

Buck Sexton (21:28)

So here. Yes, I think we will. Here is the problem that I see with the Strait of Hormuz. It's basically cutting their own throat if they don't allow the oil and gas to transfer through transit through the Strait of Hormuz. The entire Iranian economy is predicated on being able to sell oil and gas. One of the craziest things about this entire military operation is they've continued to load oil and gas onto Iranian ships and transit them through the Strait of Hormuz. If I think if they are going to say, hey, we're not going to allow ships to come through this area, we don't have to allow Iranian ships out, or we can go in and we can actually seize the Iranian oil and gas infrastructure. So I don't see their threat. And by the way, we've got to talk back on this. I don't see their threat as viable because they can't exist as an economy unless they're able to sell oil and gas. And their pain point, I guess the question is, to what extent is their pain point necessary? I think at some point in time, everyone will Just say to Iran, and you were starting to see this happen with the UAE and other Saudi Arabian area countries, other Gulf countries, countries. They, oil and gas has to flow. And even there are reports that China was instrumental in getting this 14 day ceasefire negotiated because China needs the oil and gas coming out of Iran. So I don't see a world where Iran can say we're going to shut down the Strait of Hormuz and actually be able to do it. Because I don't think there is a global support. Leave aside the United States, China has to have this oil and gas. A lot of other countries that are technically rivals of the United States, much of Europe has to have it. I just don't see a world where they can actually shut it down. Now we've got a question on this. So I understand that you don't see

Clay Travis (23:28)

a world where they can shut down the strait.

Buck Sexton (23:30)

No, we've been in that world. No, I mean there's still ships coming through. I don't think that they can. And Iranian ships have continued to come through. I'm saying we can stop Iran ships from coming through. We can shut off Iran's ability to make any money at all.

Clay Travis (23:47)

And this is, but it's, it's a little bit of play. Like, you know, can, can Secaucus, New Jersey shut down shipping, you know, along its waterways better than some country that's thousands of miles away. I mean they're, they're right there. That's why they have, they have.

Buck Sexton (24:04)

No, no, but what I'm saying is we could, if we needed to, we could put a barricade up and we could say we're not going to allow any Iranian oil to leave. We are not going to allow them to access global markets at all. I think Iran needs oil and gas money more than, than we do. And again, this is, a lot of people have talked about this. You know who's been celebrating the most in the United States over the war in Iran? Texas oil people. The amount of money that they are making when it's $100 a barrel as opposed to $60 a barrel is through the roof. And because America has energy independence, we actually as a country benefit to some extent when oil and gas prices go up now because we are selling oil and gas on the global market and our businesses, their profits skyrocket. Now individuals, when it comes to what we have to pay on oil and gas, have to pay more, but a lot of that money stays in the country. Unlike in 1991 when we had to go to war in, in The Middle East.

Clay Travis (25:09)

If we, if we were confident we could stop Iranian, Iranian ships from going through, why wouldn't we just. Why wouldn't we do that right now?

Buck Sexton (25:18)

I think we've been allowing those ships out because it puts more oil and gas on the marketplace. If I were Trump right now, I would say they don't have the. I don't know why I said it

Clay Travis (25:28)

publicly, but, I mean, what's more important, shutting down Iran entirely or putting more oil and gas in the global marketplace?

Buck Sexton (25:34)

Well, I think it. I think it leads to the question of how long do you want to do it? There is a pain point, right. And the pain point is significant in a midterm election cycle. But Iran, the only way they get any money at all is by having oil and gas transit. Their ships have been transiting. Their threat is we'll hit other country ships, which is why a lot of other countries have decided we aren't willing to run through the straight of Hormuz right now and take the risk which goes to.

Clay Travis (26:03)

So if we have the stronger hand, which you seem to think that we do.

Buck Sexton (26:05)

I do.

Clay Travis (26:06)

Why can't we get them to concede?

Buck Sexton (26:09)

I think we have to figure out who we're actually negotiating with. I think the people who lead Iran are afraid that if they be. If they are seen in Iran as bending the knee to the United States, then they lose power. So that's why, I think if you read this story, they said the Supreme Leader, who may be dead and maybe in a coma, the new one, the Gayetola, actually made this decision. If you go read and you. And you hear like, ok, who made the call to do this ceasefire? They are saying the Gayetollah did it. I think he is right now a fiction that people in positions that are trying to angle for power in Iran are using as the guy who's making these deals, because I think they're afraid that if you are seen as being in a good relationship with the United States and Israel, it's hard to have power. So we have to figure out who actually is capable of ruling Iran. And here's the day, maybe there's not a person. I hope.

Clay Travis (27:07)

I hope what you were saying is true. I don't. I don't see it that way. I think the Iranians feel like, oh, wow, we really can just shut down the Strait. And Trump just blinked and now we get to make crazy demands. And now we go into months and months of negotiation.

Buck Sexton (27:22)

Let me ask you this. Why didn't they shut down the Strait

Clay Travis (27:25)

of Hormuz before, because we weren't bombing everything in sight. What do you mean?

Buck Sexton (27:31)

Okay, but no.

Clay Travis (27:32)

No, because we weren't at war with them.

Buck Sexton (27:34)

If you believe that you have this political asset and this political power, why did they not do it in June? Why have they not threatened to do it before?

Clay Travis (27:43)

I mean, it clearly creates pain for them, but it creates pain for us. So they. This is like. This is like, who. Who can bleed out faster is really the game we're talking about. Or who bleeds out faster?

Buck Sexton (27:54)

And I think that's why. I think it's Iran that bleeds out faster, because I don't think their world. If they aren't able to ship oil and gas, their entire world collapses within a month. I don't think our. Look, does it stink to have to pay $4 a gallon of gas as opposed to $2.80 a gallon of gas? I get that. But I don't think our overall economy is impacted anywhere near as much as Europe, as China, as many of the Middle Eastern states are.

Clay Travis (28:26)

Yeah, but they're not playing. They're not. They're not trying to outlast our economy, Clay. They're trying to outlast our political will. They're trying to outlast the willingness of the president to subject the American people to high gas prices or instability in the Middle east or whatever this is without getting absolutely annihilated in the midterm election. Right. I mean, that's what they're playing. They're not playing like we're richer than they are, obviously, but I don't think

Buck Sexton (28:51)

Iran's economy works if they don't. If they're not able to ship oil and gas out of the Strait of Hormuz for a month, I think their entire economy collapses.

Clay Travis (29:03)

But that would mean. So you're saying. Because then if they're not able to ship, no one's able to ship.

Buck Sexton (29:08)

Correct. I'm saying that our response to them, in my opinion, should be, hey, if you're going to not provide free passage to the Strait of Hormuz, then we are putting a US Aircraft carrier at the end of the Strait and no ships are getting out. That would be my response if I were.

Clay Travis (29:25)

They're going to have a lot of target practice on that aircraft carrier.

Buck Sexton (29:27)

But, yeah, sure, I mean, we can restrict. Strict. I mean, this. This idea that only Iran has the ability to control ingress and egress in the Strait of Hormuz, I just don't buy. We have continued to allow Iranian ships out. They've continued to Load oil and gas on Carg island if I were there. And we truly think that they're going to restrict ingress and egress and we'll see what the trans transit looks like over the next couple of days. I would say we're not going to have a rule where Iran ships can come in and out as they that so desire. And meanwhile, no other countries are going to be able to go in and out. I don't think that's a tenable result.

Clay Travis (30:06)

And so the reason they've been able to do that up to this point is because we've thought that they're crazy enough that they would actually blow up another country's oil tanker if they don't concede. Right. Or if they don't. Yeah, but I think that they want now is that they get $2 million a boat for every boat that goes into the Strait of Hormuz.

Buck Sexton (30:20)

Correct.

Clay Travis (30:21)

That's. That's what they're demanding.

Buck Sexton (30:22)

And now Trump is saying we'll split the money.

Clay Travis (30:24)

You know, again, that's the most Trump thing ever. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Buck Sexton (30:28)

Trump has said, like, hey, if they're going to charge 2 million, we'll take one of that and we'll get, you know, part of the money, too. Look, I just think their, their hand is not as strong because we have been pretty kind in letting their boats to continue to transit. I think it's crazy. I think a lot of people don't even realize this. They've continued to run their oil and gas facilities like normal while we've been bombing the bejesus, which is why we

Clay Travis (30:50)

don't have the leverage that we feel we've. This is why we haven't been able to force a concession. By the way, we went through this with Russia, too. Oh, we're going to, we're going to bring Russia. I remember we were doing the show together, remember? Oh, Russia's going to be brought to its knees. Oh, they're going to be kicked out of the international financial system. Russia can't fight this war for long against Ukraine. Blah, blah, blah, bull. Oil, gas, money talks, BS walks. Russia's been able to continue fighting this war and then some, despite all of the maximum pressure campaign.

Buck Sexton (31:20)

Well, because we let them sell their oil and gas. So we're not actually saying. But. So we're not actually really trying to grab them by the balls. It's a lot of public posturing.

Clay Travis (31:30)

But we let them stop Russia from selling oil and gas to China, by

Buck Sexton (31:34)

the way, we let them sell their oil and gas to India and then we let India mark it up a little bit. It's a great business for the Indian people, right, because they get Russian oil and gas at a discount. They mark it up a little bit and they basically launder it through the global marketplace. I just, I don't believe that Iran, if we say ok, your oil and gas isn't getting out either, you got

Clay Travis (31:58)

to remember Russia, Clay, we're talking pipelines, right? I mean a lot of China's natural gas comes through overland pipeline. So that's a difference, right? So unless we're going to start blowing up Russia's pipeline, by the way, I

Buck Sexton (32:08)

think they would actually this is why, this is why Ukraine blew up the Nord Stream pipeline to try to restrict the ability of oil and gas and

Clay Travis (32:17)

that that was I'm not sure that worked out for us the way that we had hoped that it would.

Buck Sexton (32:22)

So, so you think, well we'll come back and we'll continue to take your talk backs.

Clay Travis (32:27)

We'll see where we are in two weeks. I think in two weeks they're going to say negotiations are going great. Iran, we beat them, we won. We're going to keep talking for another 60 days. We'll come back to this. I think that's where this is heading.

Buck Sexton (32:40)

So you think that. But the question is in the meantime is the Strait of Hormuz open? Because we'll find that out pretty quickly,

Clay Travis (32:47)

I think, I think Iranians are going to start operating like a toll business in the Strait of Hormuz in the meantime. That's what I think is going to happen. We're not stopping ships, we're just, we're getting basically reparations for the war America started. So pay us.

Buck Sexton (32:59)

I don't understand or believe necessarily that Iran hasn't been doing that in the past taking, you know, there are other

Clay Travis (33:09)

countries that are on the straight clay. So they'd be pissing off a lot of their like it's not actually their waterways, right. But now they're treating it like their

Buck Sexton (33:15)

waterway which is why again I come back to I think if we actually say we're not going to allow Iranian oil and gas out either, that that would change in a hurry because I just don't that's their only economy at this point and they can barely speaker

Clay Travis (33:29)

2% of their GDP. They have, they actually have more than just oil. It's 20% of GDP.

Buck Sexton (33:33)

It's a lot.

Clay Travis (33:34)

I mean I'm not saying it's, I think it's like 60% of their exports is oil but yeah.

Buck Sexton (33:39)

They are so inefficient even with the oil and gas that they produce that they can't keep electricity on in the country. Even before we bombed them a ton, they were stopping kids from going to school because they couldn't afford to run power and surges. I know everything else.

Clay Travis (33:56)

Don't underestimate their ability to suffer. All right, so you guys are getting sort of both sides of this view. So there you go. I mean, and let me just be very clear. I hope Clay is right and that there is a secret, rational group inside of Iran that will make the concessions we want, not admit to them. Get a deal going. Trump wins. It would be the biggest international relations slash military strike victory in a very long time and it would be incredible. I don't think that's how this is going to play out. Unfortunately.

Buck Sexton (34:27)

I'm optimistic. I just think that rationality at some level is going to play out. But we will see. We'll see.

Clay Travis (34:34)

I'm about to get lit up in the talkback. Someone's going to buck is insane. Amazing win. The biggest win ever. It's huge. Huge win. All right, fine. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Buck Sexton (34:45)

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Clay Travis (36:03)

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got a quick turnaround so we can come back, maybe take some calls and talk backs. What do you think, Clay? Is that a good way to handle because we didn't get any in really?

Buck Sexton (36:13)

Yes. I'm sure that we are deluged right now and I can see every line ringing and I'm sure we've gotten an unbelievable amount of talk back. So we'll get into those for. For the next hour and hear what you guys think.

Clay Travis (36:24)

What do you think about the Iran cease fire, which is where things stand right now? And then also I want to talk about some immigration stuff, including an effort include with a number of GOP members of Congress to try to get what is an amnesty. It's a straight up amnesty. Don't listen to anybody who's trying to tell you otherwise. It's an amnesty bill passed which shows you how quickly the GOP will betray the base. And then, Clay, some wild stuff about fraud in California that's out there now. One doctor billing $270 million just in California to medical in fraud. We should talk about this, though.